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[2017-01-24 05:52:43] VenCap : ah ok.
[2017-01-24 05:52:58] aethlios : if swap is above spot, so a premium, shorts earn the funding, no happens the opposite and shorts pay to longs
[2017-01-24 05:53:12] VenCap : so in simple terms, it taxes people who are in the biggest "orders" in this case, more people are hsorting so they pay the tax, right?
[2017-01-24 05:53:30] herpinator : guacamole: every time I see your name I think of jeb! and his guacbowls
[2017-01-24 05:53:39] aethlios : price is the xbtusd price, index is xbt/usd spot (up in the screen)
[2017-01-24 05:53:53] guacamole : herpinator: good ole' jeb
[2017-01-24 05:54:03] guacamole : sorry, iJeb!
[2017-01-24 05:55:07] aethlios : VenCap: because someone has to do the sucker and go the opposite direction, now shorts pay longs to convince them to play the sucker long trade.
[2017-01-24 05:55:50] aethlios : VenCap: you can use march contract which has no funding.
[2017-01-24 05:58:38] VenCap : thanks aethlios
[2017-01-24 05:58:52] VenCap : still unclear how it decides, but there is ay too much to understand here
[2017-01-24 05:59:02] VenCap : and i iwill get rekt before any of it even mater most liekly
[2017-01-24 06:00:02] aethlios : VenCap: demand and supply push it above or below index, no supply is much stronger and price is traded below index to match the supply demand equality.
[2017-01-24 06:01:12] VenCap : aethlios, and Vol dropping would sugest BTC gonig south, not uber up like Abbey says
[2017-01-24 06:01:15] guacamole : VenCap: index price is based on other exchanges if that's what is confusing you
[2017-01-24 06:01:48] VenCap : in simple terms
[2017-01-24 06:01:53] guacamole : that's one interpretation of the situation, if it were obvious, it would already be priced in
[2017-01-24 06:02:29] VenCap : if price drops to $900 long get paid right
[2017-01-24 06:03:43] guacamole : funding is based on the difference between bitmex price and index price, not the price itself
[2017-01-24 06:04:35] guacamole : it's also an average over 8 hours - longs will certainly get paid next 2 funding rounds
[2017-01-24 06:05:11] guacamole : all this stuff is explained in the references if you look there
[2017-01-24 06:06:59] VenCap : so the lower it goes, the more logns get paid, well compensated for huge losses
[2017-01-24 06:07:07] VenCap : unless they are rekt and they get jack
[2017-01-24 06:07:09] VenCap : right?
[2017-01-24 06:12:57] aethlios : VenCap: false, the lower swap stays below index makes longs get paid.
[2017-01-24 06:18:23] VenCap : what is index now?
[2017-01-24 06:18:29] micmix : bitcoin is dead: "Sorry. we are unable to accept deposit from non-Chinese mainland customers currently."
[2017-01-24 06:18:30] aethlios : where is sleger?? what he thinks about the market??
[2017-01-24 06:18:37] micmix : that's on okc
[2017-01-24 06:18:53] aethlios : micmix: okcoin spot??
[2017-01-24 06:19:13] micmix : aethlios: spot cny market
[2017-01-24 06:19:43] aethlios : micmix: okcoin intern. is ok for now. shows me btc deposit address
[2017-01-24 06:20:06] aethlios : micmix: can you find if they implemented 0.2%
[2017-01-24 06:20:13] micmix : international is fine but Chinese markets are done
[2017-01-24 06:20:42] micmix : aethlios: no, I pulled all money out, can't place orders
[2017-01-24 06:21:55] aethlios : thanks!!
[2017-01-24 06:22:31] aethlios : micmix: so volume will go even lower because of foreigners wont allowed to trade.
[2017-01-24 06:22:53] VenCap : low vol = drop, surely
[2017-01-24 06:23:11] micmix : yeah, I would hedge all your coins just in case
[2017-01-24 06:23:17] abbey : bitstamp quiet, no volume at all.
[2017-01-24 06:24:08] micmix : not accepting deposits from non-Chinese accounts is new, was working yesterday
[2017-01-24 06:25:06] abbey : big moves about to happen soon
[2017-01-24 06:25:09] aethlios : micmix: this maybe is not known to the market yet, maybe a new pboc rule.
[2017-01-24 06:25:41] abbey : calm before the storm
[2017-01-24 06:26:55] VenCap : abbey up?
[2017-01-24 06:27:03] VenCap : H&S reversed still in play?
[2017-01-24 06:27:15] VenCap : i cant see how it cna rise when vol is falling off thecliff
[2017-01-24 06:28:06] Papou : dude dont listen to the reverse head and shoulders
[2017-01-24 06:28:08] Papou : thats so dumb
[2017-01-24 06:28:20] Papou : and irrational
[2017-01-24 06:28:24] abbey : 12h chart possible reversed H&S looks more interesting at the moment
[2017-01-24 06:28:32] Papou : to pump billions just to paint a pattern
[2017-01-24 06:28:35] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/uQdgotA4/
[2017-01-24 06:28:51] Papou : yup aethlios
[2017-01-24 06:28:56] Papou : orea malaka
[2017-01-24 06:29:02] Papou : akrivos
[2017-01-24 06:29:12] aethlios : mfi daily started going down last 2 days, 37 now, has room to fall below 20
[2017-01-24 06:29:23] Papou : stochRSI 1d is STRONG SELL
[2017-01-24 06:30:13] aethlios : Papou: where are you from?
[2017-01-24 06:30:26] VenCap : Papou you think we go dwon?
[2017-01-24 06:30:34] VenCap : aethlios down to 20?
[2017-01-24 06:30:45] abbey : Papou: so it was Dec 21, look what happened
[2017-01-24 06:31:14] abbey : papou indicator blinks up
[2017-01-24 06:31:28] Papou : greece
[2017-01-24 06:31:31] aethlios : VenCap: 20 is for MFI index
[2017-01-24 06:31:43] Papou : bulls are trapped guys
[2017-01-24 06:31:44] aethlios : Papou: athens?
[2017-01-24 06:31:57] VenCap : i see
[2017-01-24 06:32:01] Papou : yep
[2017-01-24 06:32:11] Papou : market is at stand still
[2017-01-24 06:32:17] Papou : bears are laughing
[2017-01-24 06:32:20] Papou : sharpening the knives
[2017-01-24 06:32:45] VenCap : runs to the hills
[2017-01-24 06:32:59] Papou : if i was long i would market dump right now honestly
[2017-01-24 06:33:00] VenCap : women and children get to safety first...
[2017-01-24 06:33:02] Papou : cut my losses
[2017-01-24 06:34:02] Papou : bear signal was yesterday, uptrend broke
[2017-01-24 06:34:11] Papou : doji signal was seen today on the daily
[2017-01-24 06:34:18] Papou : and who wants to pump plebs to riches
[2017-01-24 06:34:20] Papou : china volume dead
[2017-01-24 06:34:23] Papou : what more do u guys want?
[2017-01-24 06:34:24] aethlios : VenCap: we have to exchange them for btc when bottom is in, buy them back at top
[2017-01-24 06:34:52] VenCap : exchange women and children for Bitcoin.. will things get so bad :P
[2017-01-24 06:35:07] Papou : guys wake up
[2017-01-24 06:35:09] Papou : analysis
[2017-01-24 06:35:22] Papou : http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/01/24/bitcoin-price-technical-analysis-01242017-reversal-candlesticks-sighted/
[2017-01-24 06:35:31] Papou : u guys want the batsignal or something in the sky?
[2017-01-24 06:35:36] aethlios : Papou: I live in Greece also.
[2017-01-24 06:35:40] Papou : nice
[2017-01-24 06:35:45] Papou : im short from 934
[2017-01-24 06:35:49] Papou : im pretty happy
[2017-01-24 06:36:08] narnarfromnarnia : Papou: you didn't at least close on that panic drop?
[2017-01-24 06:36:26] narnarfromnarnia : and re-open at 925
[2017-01-24 06:36:28] Papou : no
[2017-01-24 06:36:38] narnarfromnarnia : what about ADL
[2017-01-24 06:36:43] Papou : nope im good
[2017-01-24 06:36:44] narnarfromnarnia : must have been close
[2017-01-24 06:36:52] Papou : im bear riding this all the way
[2017-01-24 06:37:00] Papou : u got the doji signal bro
[2017-01-24 06:37:05] Papou : and china left into gold last week
[2017-01-24 06:37:06] Papou : come on...
[2017-01-24 06:37:24] Papou : bitcoin got okie dokied
[2017-01-24 06:38:34] Papou : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-19/chinese-investors-exit-bitcoin-flood-gold-etfs
[2017-01-24 06:38:53] Papou : u dont think this was all insider pump from knowing pboc imposing trading fees?
[2017-01-24 06:39:06] Papou : bobby lee gagnam styled the west
[2017-01-24 06:39:22] Papou : 920 still good short guys
[2017-01-24 06:39:29] Papou : just ride it until u get ADL
[2017-01-24 06:39:42] Apocalyptic : Papou: of course it was insider pump
[2017-01-24 06:39:47] Apocalyptic : it's pretty clear now
[2017-01-24 06:39:53] Papou : yup
[2017-01-24 06:40:00] Papou : and all of okcoin is LONG
[2017-01-24 06:40:04] Papou : wait until shorts open
[2017-01-24 06:40:06] Papou : LOLOLOL
[2017-01-24 06:40:14] Apocalyptic : Papou: they'll get rekt
[2017-01-24 06:40:34] Papou : bro i am saying a prayer for all the poor souls
[2017-01-24 06:40:43] Apocalyptic : although with this volume it may take some time
[2017-01-24 06:41:02] Papou : no
[2017-01-24 06:41:06] Papou : they locked the books
[2017-01-24 06:41:09] Papou : bears are taunting
[2017-01-24 06:41:15] Papou : bulls are sweating and have no clue what to do
[2017-01-24 06:41:26] Papou : the death was that last 2000 btc finex pump
[2017-01-24 06:41:30] Papou : died on the cross
[2017-01-24 06:41:35] Papou : west had to symbolize jesus
[2017-01-24 06:41:40] Apocalyptic : I just wanna see some action
[2017-01-24 06:41:41] Papou : china ready to celebrate new years
[2017-01-24 06:41:52] Papou : bro im taking my profits and partying in hong kong
[2017-01-24 06:41:57] Apocalyptic : this market looks dead
[2017-01-24 06:42:08] Apocalyptic : Papou: with the bitmex guys ?
[2017-01-24 06:42:11] Papou : yup
[2017-01-24 06:42:17] Apocalyptic : I heard they're in HK as well
[2017-01-24 06:42:45] Apocalyptic : Papou: well enjoy bro
[2017-01-24 06:43:12] Papou : apocalyptic depending on how low it goes and when i get ADL, ill pay ur plane ticket and hotel
[2017-01-24 06:43:46] Papou : join the party
[2017-01-24 06:43:49] Papou : chinese gonna party
[2017-01-24 06:43:58] Papou : we go drink with bobby lee
[2017-01-24 06:46:33] abbey : sure thing
[2017-01-24 06:47:03] abbey : have fun!
[2017-01-24 06:47:44] abbey : greetings to bobby
[2017-01-24 06:55:26] VenCap : Arise Chikun
[2017-01-24 06:57:28] dodic : wow there is basically almost 0 volume on OKC
[2017-01-24 06:59:17] abbey : still before tsunami
[2017-01-24 06:59:20] stevenmst : same on huobi
[2017-01-24 07:05:31] herpinator : tiny volume, calm before the storm perhaps
[2017-01-24 07:08:05] herpinator : lets spend this time getting aesthetic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lGWEsQl4WU
[2017-01-24 07:08:14] aethlios : good luck holding that market cap with so little real volume.
[2017-01-24 07:10:38] Apocalyptic : @aethlios I'm really curious how it'll play out
[2017-01-24 07:13:55] aethlios : we have no leader exchange now.
[2017-01-24 07:14:19] VenCap : to the bunkers....
[2017-01-24 07:14:23] VenCap : cover your ases...
[2017-01-24 07:14:26] VenCap : red army on the march
[2017-01-24 07:14:55] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBuvRk1thQ bulls still believe.
[2017-01-24 07:14:58] herpinator : yeh I don't know where to watch really. I used to watch OKcoin because of the high volume there.
[2017-01-24 07:15:45] Papou : this is sad
[2017-01-24 07:15:55] Papou : i think everyone is scared to sell because of how big a panic it would be
[2017-01-24 07:29:04] VenCap : okcoin keep throwing mus at wall hoping it will stick
[2017-01-24 07:29:13] VenCap : wall made of teflon...
[2017-01-24 07:57:21] BetterNick : Does anyone has any idea why the quarters (okcoin and bitmex) are trading so below their index? Negative sentiment or is something else going on here?
[2017-01-24 07:58:29] FreeBitcoins : perhaps... something more sinister...
[2017-01-24 07:58:50] micmix : BetterNick: everyone is scared sh1tless
[2017-01-24 08:00:12] BetterNick : Of what? Because of the cange of thr fee structure of chinese exchanges?
[2017-01-24 08:00:15] VenCap : i think peeps beter be well stocked up on lube
[2017-01-24 08:00:20] BetterNick : *change
[2017-01-24 08:01:08] FreeBitcoins : next 4hr will be challenging
[2017-01-24 08:01:23] VenCap : unless you are long and we hit $900
[2017-01-24 08:01:34] BetterNick : How does it work for the Chinese customers who had a long position on the quarter? I guess they can login, acces the futures but only sell their position to 0?
[2017-01-24 08:04:46] Noobz : 9 to 6 hours ago was more interesting then it is now...
[2017-01-24 08:04:53] Noobz : is this the eye of the storm?
[2017-01-24 08:13:00] aethlios : 550 easily
[2017-01-24 08:13:31] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: you and mike are super bearish?
[2017-01-24 08:13:42] narnarfromnarnia : but there's a lot of shorts to pay and have to close
[2017-01-24 08:13:52] aethlios : fake volume fake price, back down.
[2017-01-24 08:13:56] narnarfromnarnia : regardless im sitting out
[2017-01-24 08:14:05] narnarfromnarnia : i caught that 880 bottom though
[2017-01-24 08:14:12] narnarfromnarnia : only went 2 bucks below my order
[2017-01-24 08:14:36] narnarfromnarnia : i followed my idea to just place my buy 10 bucks below when i think i should lol
[2017-01-24 08:15:26] narnarfromnarnia : where is support
[2017-01-24 08:15:35] narnarfromnarnia : or does it even matter now all different game
[2017-01-24 08:16:36] BetterNick : Does anyone know if chinese customers can only close their position in the futures when they login?
[2017-01-24 08:16:43] BetterNick : at ok-coin
[2017-01-24 08:17:07] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: major support 730, trendline from 200 and ema 200. if this is lost we go much low, 400 maybe
[2017-01-24 08:18:15] narnarfromnarnia : that's pretty bearish
[2017-01-24 08:18:22] l3f : Wow some serious volume in China
[2017-01-24 08:19:08] narnarfromnarnia : im pretty sure the traders that trade high frequency are going to want to exit
[2017-01-24 08:19:12] narnarfromnarnia : right?
[2017-01-24 08:19:22] l3f : "high frequency"
[2017-01-24 08:19:26] VenCap : i wil lexit at 600 USD
[2017-01-24 08:19:50] FreeBitcoins : hft limited on okc to 20 per sec which is v slow
[2017-01-24 08:20:08] narnarfromnarnia : yeah
[2017-01-24 08:20:10] l3f : Wow extremely bearish premium
[2017-01-24 08:20:13] narnarfromnarnia : i mean higher frequency
[2017-01-24 08:20:15] l3f : we all waiting for 800?
[2017-01-24 08:20:29] l3f : bearish funding*
[2017-01-24 08:20:29] narnarfromnarnia : im scared of flat
[2017-01-24 08:21:11] VenCap : lets get Bitconi back to $600 so we cna start a real rise without such drama
[2017-01-24 08:21:19] VenCap : this is thel ast time to make good money from widl swings
[2017-01-24 08:21:42] herpinator : volume down on cny by about 80% from the 30 day average
[2017-01-24 08:21:52] l3f : VenCap: You mean a 4 year bear market?
[2017-01-24 08:22:17] VenCap : well 4 year bull market would be better
[2017-01-24 08:22:57] l3f : VenCap: not at this height
[2017-01-24 08:23:21] VenCap : thats why i say back to 600 USD to begin again ?
[2017-01-24 08:25:04] VenCap : oh no... its happening...
[2017-01-24 08:25:14] aethlios : why 600? we went 465 with finex, this is worst.
[2017-01-24 08:25:21] aethlios : worse
[2017-01-24 08:26:17] VenCap : thsi is worsE? at 915?
[2017-01-24 08:27:31] airitout : ok i just woke up. Why is price still up?
[2017-01-24 08:28:27] VenCap : its a trap
[2017-01-24 08:30:32] Noobz : Meanwhile the mempool of tx is still growing
[2017-01-24 08:31:24] Derreck : that's not good
[2017-01-24 08:31:50] Noobz : 65k of tx atm
[2017-01-24 08:34:14] Derreck : discount is pretty bad
[2017-01-24 08:36:20] VenCap : but Mommy, Abbey told me to go long, i went all in.. now i lose Bitcoin, Momym help.
[2017-01-24 08:39:00] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5pu15o/daily_discussion_tuesday_january_24_2017/
[2017-01-24 08:39:04] narnarfromnarnia : first comment there
[2017-01-24 08:39:08] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios:
[2017-01-24 08:39:32] narnarfromnarnia : could see a big margin call around 950's if we got there and one of those contract holders is on 4x
[2017-01-24 08:39:44] narnarfromnarnia : but there's no buy power or there might be
[2017-01-24 08:41:03] airitout : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/10m?c=e&r=minute&t=bar
[2017-01-24 08:44:57] Derreck : narnarfromnarnia: interesting
[2017-01-24 08:45:07] airitout : its crazy to see how much marketshare btcchina and OK-Coin has. Combined they have 85% marketshare over an 24h timeperiod
[2017-01-24 08:54:43] Ahhere : BetterNick: one theory is a 40k btc whale short on okcoin futures. He will get margin called at 950 best guess. He was trying to get to 820 to survive
[2017-01-24 08:55:35] VenCap : he will get there
[2017-01-24 08:55:36] Ahhere : Market selling last night on his last chance margin.
[2017-01-24 08:55:58] Ahhere : Short squeeze gonna be magical
[2017-01-24 08:58:29] Ahhere : He added 500 btc to his position in the dump
[2017-01-24 08:58:40] VenCap : to his short position?
[2017-01-24 08:59:42] VenCap : we just seen the short squeeze before
[2017-01-24 08:59:47] VenCap : it failed to rise market
[2017-01-24 09:00:29] Ahhere : That was some of his symbiotes
[2017-01-24 09:00:43] Ahhere : He's got deep pckets
[2017-01-24 09:01:02] Ahhere : But no margin now
[2017-01-24 09:02:36] VenCap : if a 40k bitcoin whale is going short, im going to ride along with him
[2017-01-24 09:03:10] VenCap : looks liek hes pushing up price on okcoin to get more leverage
[2017-01-24 09:03:23] VenCap : 2 obviously fake bids near 200btc each
[2017-01-24 09:04:48] VenCap : and like a magican... poof. they are gone
[2017-01-24 09:04:49] abbey : VenCap: what is this: _but Mommy, Abbey told me to go long, i went all in.. now i lose Bitcoin, Momym help._ ??
[2017-01-24 09:05:08] VenCap : Abbey convinved me to go long :)
[2017-01-24 09:05:23] VenCap : something to do with Reverse Head and Shoulders and big uptrend.
[2017-01-24 09:05:25] abbey : didn't tell u to go long arsehole!
[2017-01-24 09:05:29] VenCap : but then i cut my losses.
[2017-01-24 09:05:42] VenCap : you sound like expert chart reader @abbey
[2017-01-24 09:05:46] VenCap : so i went with your judgement.
[2017-01-24 09:05:52] VenCap : No you did not tell anyone to do anythung
[2017-01-24 09:05:59] VenCap : i took your words as gospel
[2017-01-24 09:06:00] abbey : and certainly did not tell u go all in w high lev!!
[2017-01-24 09:06:00] VenCap : :O)
[2017-01-24 09:06:05] abbey : moron
[2017-01-24 09:06:13] VenCap : hey ease up.
[2017-01-24 09:06:29] VenCap : us noobs are easily swayed when caught in two minds
[2017-01-24 09:06:36] abbey : u do your own decicions here!
[2017-01-24 09:06:50] VenCap : correct
[2017-01-24 09:07:48] VenCap : Moron nort heard that one in quite some time, thanks for the walk down memory lane.
[2017-01-24 09:10:07] VenCap : and it is actually starting to look positive now BTC rise.
[2017-01-24 09:15:43] abbey : yes, just wait and see. already increased my long position size earlier. @VenCap
[2017-01-24 09:16:22] VenCap : good advice . wait for betterindicator
[2017-01-24 09:16:43] VenCap : how long have you margin traded BTCfro?
[2017-01-24 09:16:51] VenCap : btc for
[2017-01-24 09:17:31] abbey : few years
[2017-01-24 09:18:04] VenCap : very good. inthat time you have made gains?
[2017-01-24 09:20:35] abbey : no gains. first profit this year. I was terrible trader first year and bad trader 2 years
[2017-01-24 09:21:11] abbey : I started as a bull @ bearmarket
[2017-01-24 09:22:28] abbey : Now I feel i'm doing pretty well.
[2017-01-24 09:23:41] abbey : first rule to remember is to use stop orders. Didn't use to do that in my early years.
[2017-01-24 09:24:15] abbey : first rule to me at least.
[2017-01-24 09:25:31] abbey : I traded @ okcoin before moving here
[2017-01-24 09:26:01] Ahhere : . @abbey what u think about this bearwhale futures theory
[2017-01-24 09:26:22] airitout : don't believe him Vencap, he is not Soros
[2017-01-24 09:26:55] abbey : Ahhere: interesting
[2017-01-24 09:27:33] airitout : no professional uses stops. he just constantly analyze market
[2017-01-24 09:28:11] Ahhere : airitout: stops are for bedtime amirite?
[2017-01-24 09:28:59] abbey : Ahhere: exactly
[2017-01-24 09:29:40] BTC-Noob : Ahhere: stops are worse than panick sells haha
[2017-01-24 09:31:56] abbey : too many times got rekt in sleep, never ever
[2017-01-24 09:32:24] herpinator : what exchange is leading the market now?
[2017-01-24 09:32:41] abbey : we are
[2017-01-24 09:32:44] airitout : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/10m?c=e&r=minute&t=bar
[2017-01-24 09:33:10] VenCap : i did not use stop order recently got rekt for 7BTC
[2017-01-24 09:33:10] Apocalyptic : herpinator: I would say okc still
[2017-01-24 09:33:18] herpinator : airitout: thank you for the link
[2017-01-24 09:33:23] VenCap : yup, happened while i slept also
[2017-01-24 09:33:33] airitout : herpinator: np
[2017-01-24 09:33:35] VenCap : now i am chasing losses
[2017-01-24 09:33:39] VenCap : going to get rekt harder
[2017-01-24 09:33:58] VenCap : still not using stops, i dont trust them
[2017-01-24 09:34:32] VenCap : QUESTION: how cna Realised PLN go UP if i do not sell
[2017-01-24 09:34:37] VenCap : fees being added all the time?
[2017-01-24 09:34:54] Ahhere : VenCap: yes
[2017-01-24 09:35:04] VenCap : eek
[2017-01-24 09:35:16] VenCap : then in just over 2hrs i will got big fees ontop on ongonig fees
[2017-01-24 09:35:16] Ahhere : Funding
[2017-01-24 09:35:20] VenCap : it sucks
[2017-01-24 09:35:30] Ahhere : Doesn't suck if long.
[2017-01-24 09:35:48] VenCap : yeah i went short now, went against judgement to try and change my luck
[2017-01-24 09:35:57] Noobz : it sucks to get coin, thats a new one
[2017-01-24 09:36:00] VenCap : now i will leave it, death or glory
[2017-01-24 09:36:06] Ahhere : Was -0.375 recently
[2017-01-24 09:36:13] VenCap : 350k contracts
[2017-01-24 09:36:17] Ahhere : Now -0.2
[2017-01-24 09:36:30] VenCap : so, what happens? people who are short get taxed on their margin?
[2017-01-24 09:36:30] bingbongfly : What was that, a dump for ants?
[2017-01-24 09:37:38] herpinator : lol
[2017-01-24 09:38:14] Apocalyptic : bingbongfly: it's the new normal
[2017-01-24 09:38:20] Apocalyptic : get used to it
[2017-01-24 09:39:31] VenCap : abbey: how to use stops here effectivley pleas
[2017-01-24 09:42:26] airitout : sell it vencap, believe me
[2017-01-24 09:42:57] airitout : ah nvm , you went short
[2017-01-24 09:43:18] VenCap : i think when it comes to margin trading, best thing to do is Flip a Coin.
[2017-01-24 09:43:42] VenCap : airitout you think this is a fake rise?
[2017-01-24 09:43:51] VenCap : before big red?
[2017-01-24 09:44:19] airitout : yup between 1200 - and 1400
[2017-01-24 09:44:38] aethlios : longs try to hold the line with no volume.
[2017-01-24 09:45:10] airitout : very curious how market price will react when the 60k btc gets confirmed
[2017-01-24 09:45:50] VenCap : between 1200 and 1440 ? USD?
[2017-01-24 09:45:59] Noobz : airitout: you mean the backlog of tx?
[2017-01-24 09:46:14] airitout : hours (CEST) @VenCap
[2017-01-24 09:46:21] airitout : Noobz: yes
[2017-01-24 09:46:31] VenCap : Central European Time?
[2017-01-24 09:46:32] Apocalyptic : aethlios: "no volume" hard to compare it to anything before
[2017-01-24 09:46:37] airitout : ya
[2017-01-24 09:47:11] VenCap : someone is moving 60,000 Bitcoins?
[2017-01-24 09:47:19] airitout : i leave now.. have stats exam
[2017-01-24 09:47:21] airitout : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5ptexx/60000_unconfirmed_transactions_currently_coin/
[2017-01-24 09:47:31] VenCap : thanks for link. good luck with exam
[2017-01-24 09:47:34] airitout : thx
[2017-01-24 09:48:28] aethlios : 402 spot fib 0.236 for the move 170 to 1165.
[2017-01-24 09:49:36] VenCap : ?
[2017-01-24 09:49:41] VenCap : which mean?
[2017-01-24 09:49:59] aethlios : VenCap: a nice re entry long price.
[2017-01-24 09:50:20] VenCap : i dont understnad, long from what price?
[2017-01-24 09:50:27] VenCap : areyou tlking about bitcoin?
[2017-01-24 09:50:32] aethlios : 402 buy target
[2017-01-24 09:50:40] VenCap : 402 usd ?
[2017-01-24 09:50:47] aethlios : yes 402 usd
[2017-01-24 09:51:04] VenCap : holly molly mother of polly... say whaaaaaaaat
[2017-01-24 09:51:20] VenCap : [[[[[[[]'/;;;;;###########################
[2017-01-24 09:51:22] VenCap : #########
[2017-01-24 09:51:54] VenCap : sorry got piece of nail clipping inside laptop keypad
[2017-01-24 09:52:25] herpinator : its eerie when its low volume like this
[2017-01-24 09:53:03] VenCap : like the dumb blone chick in horror moving, hearing something really bad, but still goes to investigate? (that kinds eerie)?
[2017-01-24 09:53:18] herpinator : yes lol
[2017-01-24 09:53:24] VenCap : i got ya.
[2017-01-24 09:53:45] herpinator : whenever it goes quiet like this there is a big move just around the corner
[2017-01-24 09:53:55] aethlios : where is sleger?
[2017-01-24 09:56:51] micmix : aethlios: busted by Chinese communists
[2017-01-24 09:57:26] micmix : for trying to trade bitcoin on the mainland
[2017-01-24 09:57:36] Nerve : aethlios: you mean there is a probability to see btc under $700 soon ???
[2017-01-24 09:57:57] aethlios : Nerve: 730 the most important level.
[2017-01-24 09:58:35] Nerve : HollyMotherOfGod
[2017-01-24 09:59:03] Nerve : but, yes...is possible
[2017-01-24 09:59:08] herpinator : Just a regular ugly joe in a doggy dog world, holly mother of god
[2017-01-24 09:59:24] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/x7tYDTR1/
[2017-01-24 10:01:04] aethlios : bulls have to defend 740 at any cost, through any usd they have left.
[2017-01-24 10:01:30] aethlios : 400 a nice entry for the 10,000 bull market.
[2017-01-24 10:02:07] charlyko : long time
[2017-01-24 10:02:23] charlyko : mirning sirs
[2017-01-24 10:02:27] charlyko : morning*
[2017-01-24 10:03:27] VenCap : guys when do you think we could see these levels? below 800 usd?
[2017-01-24 10:03:36] VenCap : my fees might be higher than my profits by then lol
[2017-01-24 10:04:17] aethlios : VenCap: are you short? short swap? jump to march
[2017-01-24 10:04:30] VenCap : short,
[2017-01-24 10:04:40] VenCap : normal, do not know any other way, i am as green as grass
[2017-01-24 10:04:49] VenCap : march time... a few months yet.
[2017-01-24 10:05:14] aethlios : you can short XBTH17 which has no funding.
[2017-01-24 10:06:11] VenCap : ah i did not know that. where, here?
[2017-01-24 10:06:15] aethlios : will lose 5 usd per btc in next 10 hours with funding
[2017-01-24 10:06:26] aethlios : VenCap: here
[2017-01-24 10:06:36] VenCap : wow. so i am due to loose close to $100
[2017-01-24 10:06:45] aethlios : VenCap: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTH17
[2017-01-24 10:06:45] VenCap : onytop of the ongoing fees which stand at 1btc
[2017-01-24 10:06:51] VenCap : thanks.
[2017-01-24 10:07:01] VenCap : will try without funding if i survive this. on my last bitcoins here
[2017-01-24 10:10:15] abbey : VenCap: it's way more volatile than swap
[2017-01-24 10:10:45] abbey : perp swap
[2017-01-24 10:11:24] VenCap : volatile? the xbt17 ?
[2017-01-24 10:11:34] VenCap : more volatile than this ?
[2017-01-24 10:11:43] VenCap : what is this? (XBTUSD) ?
[2017-01-24 10:11:46] abbey : yes
[2017-01-24 10:15:24] abbey : if this is too hot to handle then xbth17 will rekt u harder
[2017-01-24 10:17:00] VenCap : ah, i dont need rekt harder. i feel like a new girl in the "stable" as it is.
[2017-01-24 10:17:57] micmix : okcoin orderbooks are almost completely empty. it's going to be brutal, as expected
[2017-01-24 10:18:13] Apocalyptic : micmix: yeah it's insane
[2017-01-24 10:18:23] aethlios : this is wild west of speculation non stop 24/7/365
[2017-01-24 10:18:24] Apocalyptic : liquidity has literally evaporated
[2017-01-24 10:18:40] micmix : Apocalyptic: they disabled international accounts
[2017-01-24 10:19:01] micmix : I'm so happy I pulled all my money out a week ago
[2017-01-24 10:19:08] VenCap : as Brutal as MtGox?
[2017-01-24 10:19:10] Apocalyptic : micmix: completely in okcny ?
[2017-01-24 10:19:54] micmix : Apocalyptic: yep, says "Sorry. we are unable to accept deposit from non-Chinese mainland customers currently." on the deposit page
[2017-01-24 10:20:03] Apocalyptic : was a nice hunch :) @micmix
[2017-01-24 10:20:53] micmix : Communist party said: Chinese exchanges are for the people! (only Chinese people that is)
[2017-01-24 10:21:32] micmix : and now it begins
[2017-01-24 10:22:04] dodic : lol
[2017-01-24 10:22:25] dodic : still micro dumps
[2017-01-24 10:22:39] herpinator : dumps for ants
[2017-01-24 10:22:58] VenCap : "nothing to see here...move alongs tyle dump"
[2017-01-24 10:23:27] charlyko : buy 909 sell 915
[2017-01-24 10:27:03] micmix : okc cny 0.6% spread for 10 btc
[2017-01-24 10:27:03] VenCap : "Very god price , you buy now...."
[2017-01-24 10:27:18] VenCap : walk around the corner to see it on sale for 50% less a week later
[2017-01-24 10:29:46] Apocalyptic : micmix: they could use some MMing :)
[2017-01-24 10:30:29] herpinator : looking at okc books reminds me of trading btc-e on spot long ago
[2017-01-24 10:30:41] micmix : they won't get much better charging 0.2% maker fee @Apocalyptic
[2017-01-24 10:31:28] Apocalyptic : micmix: I guess they will negotiate preferential fees with someone
[2017-01-24 10:34:17] micmix : they should bc this is ridiculous
[2017-01-24 10:41:15] BTC-Noob : traps everywhere, btc is the undisputed king of bull and bear traps
[2017-01-24 10:47:41] VenCap : Noob Traps? Bear Traps, Bull Traps. Rooster Traps?
[2017-01-24 10:48:32] bingbongfly : guys look at volume after fees on woodchippar
[2017-01-24 10:48:33] bingbongfly : https://gyazo.com/c85b65dd258320efc365d7cdb322bafb
[2017-01-24 10:48:35] bingbongfly : holy fuk
[2017-01-24 10:48:38] bingbongfly : that washtrading
[2017-01-24 10:50:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 3200 @ 6191.2
[2017-01-24 10:50:14] VenCap : wash trading?
[2017-01-24 10:50:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1300 @ 908.51
[2017-01-24 10:50:22] VenCap : eek....
[2017-01-24 10:50:46] bingbongfly : VenCap: washtrading means that you buy and sell to yourself to make the appearance of volume
[2017-01-24 10:50:56] bingbongfly : easy to do if there are no fees on the sells and buys
[2017-01-24 10:51:10] bingbongfly : as soon as the fees kicked in, the volume dried up
[2017-01-24 10:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12960 @ 906.87
[2017-01-24 10:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 125 @ 887.95
[2017-01-24 10:51:44] VenCap : aah.. great like on bittrex
[2017-01-24 10:51:53] VenCap : i never knew it was named that
[2017-01-24 10:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 26552 @ 904.38
[2017-01-24 10:52:21] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2017-01-24 10:52:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30 @ 903.34
[2017-01-24 10:52:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 902.81
[2017-01-24 10:53:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7420 @ 901.21
[2017-01-24 10:53:16] airitout : this is what we came for
[2017-01-24 10:53:20] VenCap : Crazy bitcoin might take a beating now.
[2017-01-24 10:53:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 63 @ 897.87
[2017-01-24 10:53:33] Noobz : airitout: yup
[2017-01-24 10:53:42] FreeBitcoins : that was cute
[2017-01-24 10:53:42] airitout : vencap.. remember my prediction
[2017-01-24 10:53:50] VenCap : i do.. 420?
[2017-01-24 10:53:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7380 @ 897.03
[2017-01-24 10:53:58] airitout : between 1200 and 1400
[2017-01-24 10:54:07] VenCap : ah yes... bang on the money Sir
[2017-01-24 10:54:08] airitout : i was 8 minutes earlier
[2017-01-24 10:54:13] abbey : VenCap:lol, i was obviously wrong at least about the first rev h&s pattern
[2017-01-24 10:54:40] VenCap : cny going below 6k ?
[2017-01-24 10:54:47] abbey : i hope u make money out of this @VenCap
[2017-01-24 10:55:04] Ahhere : Knife catch time
[2017-01-24 10:55:07] arbitrage101 : this is bad
[2017-01-24 10:55:12] airitout : ill ride this out
[2017-01-24 10:55:17] arbitrage101 : i am net long for some reasons
[2017-01-24 10:55:17] Ahhere : cue circus music
[2017-01-24 10:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 870.06
[2017-01-24 10:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 872.86
[2017-01-24 10:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1444 @ 872.58
[2017-01-24 10:55:41] VenCap : abbey: i hope i do also. need to claw back over 8btc losses from sunday
[2017-01-24 10:56:00] airitout : damn
[2017-01-24 10:56:36] abbey : might be double bottom here thou
[2017-01-24 10:57:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 3950 @ 0.003579
[2017-01-24 10:57:52] pumper : BTFD
[2017-01-24 10:58:00] Ahhere : Lol stop hunters not giving up
[2017-01-24 10:58:01] VenCap : probally just the first of a few big reds?
[2017-01-24 10:58:22] Ahhere : Okcoin quarterly 860
[2017-01-24 10:58:33] Apocalyptic : Ahhere: rekt
[2017-01-24 10:58:33] Ahhere : finex 919
[2017-01-24 10:58:48] Ahhere : lols
[2017-01-24 10:59:20] airitout : lol who's buying
[2017-01-24 10:59:27] VenCap : shorters?
[2017-01-24 10:59:32] VenCap : to shed some contracts?
[2017-01-24 11:04:41] VenCap : Crazy people?
[2017-01-24 11:05:16] arbitrage101 : i am buying
[2017-01-24 11:05:18] arbitrage101 : at discount
[2017-01-24 11:05:36] VenCap : its a godo discount from the 920 earlier
[2017-01-24 11:06:06] arbitrage101 : discount at current market price i mean
[2017-01-24 11:06:15] arbitrage101 : not your version of discount
[2017-01-24 11:06:55] arbitrage101 : getting paid here every 8 hours is nice
[2017-01-24 11:07:00] Ahhere : Anyone else manage to buy in the 860s?
[2017-01-24 11:07:22] VenCap : wow 860 bargain
[2017-01-24 11:07:59] VenCap : maybe.... tomrrow is a different day
[2017-01-24 11:08:14] enki0182 : the floor is yet to be tested
[2017-01-24 11:08:24] arbitrage101 : what is the floor?
[2017-01-24 11:08:41] VenCap : yes, what is the floor?
[2017-01-24 11:09:26] VenCap : below 6200 cny?
[2017-01-24 11:09:51] enki0182 : i ant see it going below 820.
[2017-01-24 11:10:07] enki0182 : but i dont think we are there yet.
[2017-01-24 11:10:10] VenCap : 5,60 cny region
[2017-01-24 11:10:15] VenCap : at that price
[2017-01-24 11:11:01] laisee : cheap coins ... fill yer boots
[2017-01-24 11:11:35] cryptwrecked : fml, we are where I shorted from 8 hours ago....and subsequently got rekt
[2017-01-24 11:11:42] VenCap : I'm noly wearing flip flops
[2017-01-24 11:11:45] VenCap : cant get much in these
[2017-01-24 11:12:08] cryptwrecked : I can't even afford second hand socks now
[2017-01-24 11:12:56] VenCap : socks just make feet sweat, much better not to wear any, look on the bright side
[2017-01-24 11:13:27] cryptwrecked : the bright side is i'm out of funds and therefore have nothing left to lose
[2017-01-24 11:13:34] micmix : move to some cheap southern country, won't need any socks or house
[2017-01-24 11:13:55] cryptwrecked : i'm moving to thailand, so it'll be sandals all year round for me
[2017-01-24 11:14:04] VenCap : perfect!
[2017-01-24 11:14:07] VenCap : :O)
[2017-01-24 11:14:19] VenCap : the sock situation that is
[2017-01-24 11:14:20] arbitrage101 : micmix: yea i am thinking of moving to rural area
[2017-01-24 11:14:25] micmix : guys, if you are still long get out
[2017-01-24 11:14:25] arbitrage101 : country side
[2017-01-24 11:14:40] VenCap : yeah, this i not gonig to rebound liek before.. theres intent in this move
[2017-01-24 11:14:50] arbitrage101 : dont want to deal with high maintenance incity
[2017-01-24 11:14:57] arbitrage101 : city
[2017-01-24 11:14:58] Apocalyptic : micmix: you're MMing this hee ?
[2017-01-24 11:15:02] Apocalyptic : *here ?
[2017-01-24 11:15:20] micmix : yeah but small limits and wide spread