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[2017-01-24 02:42:16] Rado : thanks
[2017-01-24 02:42:32] BitMEX_Sam : IMO https://exchangewar.info/ is an easier list to read
[2017-01-24 02:43:00] MikeHunt : bitmex is blocked in china so maybe not too much of a difference
[2017-01-24 02:43:21] Rado : MikeHunt: it's not about BitMEX
[2017-01-24 02:43:37] Rado : BitMEX follows what's happening on the BTC exchanges
[2017-01-24 02:43:43] rapidtrades : OMG BITMEX BLOCKED IN CHINA? SELL SELL SELL
[2017-01-24 02:44:01] airitout : lol
[2017-01-24 02:44:10] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I like https://exchangewar.info/
[2017-01-24 02:44:23] jedisatoshi : VPN lol
[2017-01-24 02:44:27] Rado : slaps rapidtrades with a large trout
[2017-01-24 02:44:41] rapidtrades : will these restrictions from China never end? guess not
[2017-01-24 02:44:55] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: wut
[2017-01-24 02:45:01] Rado : rapidtrades: they will also have no effect on BTC in teh long term
[2017-01-24 02:45:01] narnarfromnarnia : really or not?
[2017-01-24 02:45:03] rapidtrades : what exchange will be BLOCKED next?
[2017-01-24 02:45:51] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: BitMEX might jump to #1 on that list
[2017-01-24 02:45:52] Rado : ;-)
[2017-01-24 02:46:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: when china regime collapses?
[2017-01-24 02:46:53] airitout : Why is Rado flirting with Sam?
[2017-01-24 02:49:08] Avalanche : such a large discount on price, is MM alive ?
[2017-01-24 02:51:15] airitout : implementation of trading fee is @ 12:00 (UTC + 8)
[2017-01-24 02:51:26] narnarfromnarnia : how long?
[2017-01-24 02:51:26] airitout : * 8
[2017-01-24 02:51:33] airitout : 1 hour and 10 min
[2017-01-24 02:51:43] narnarfromnarnia : ok so big pump and dump coming
[2017-01-24 02:51:57] narnarfromnarnia : price moves will have to be more worth the fee and lower leverage
[2017-01-24 02:52:02] narnarfromnarnia : and lot of shorts needs to close :)
[2017-01-24 02:52:56] MikeHunt : i might just go bed for bit and wake up at 3:59
[2017-01-24 02:53:17] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Thank you very much for increasing the discount for bulk orders! Now I can stuff the orderbook with 100 of them ;-)
[2017-01-24 02:54:10] Tetsuo : micmix: u should better do somethin useful and bring back h17 to 50$ premium
[2017-01-24 02:55:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 2028 @ 6179.6
[2017-01-24 02:55:32] rowrow : what's this about a discount for bulk orders?
[2017-01-24 02:56:39] micmix : Tetsuo: I'm waiting to buy more with 50% annualized discount
[2017-01-24 02:57:04] airitout : REKT: how are you able to see if contract got liquidated?
[2017-01-24 02:57:11] Tetsuo : he smart
[2017-01-24 02:57:59] rowrow : airitout: the red ones on the order book are liquidations, i'd guess there's some indicator in the API as well but I don't know that for certain
[2017-01-24 02:58:44] rapidtrades : i can't believe i ate ton of cereal for this CRAP
[2017-01-24 02:58:57] rapidtrades : what kind of jewcoin just keeps going on
[2017-01-24 02:59:05] MikeHunt : its not time yet
[2017-01-24 02:59:32] airitout : rapidtrades: 1hour left
[2017-01-24 02:59:34] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: :BTC: :BTC: :BTC: :BTC: :soon: moooooon
[2017-01-24 02:59:36] rowrow : you think the second it switches over it's just gonna instacrash? not saying that's impossible, but there's no reason for that to happen other than market irrationality
[2017-01-24 03:00:01] MikeHunt : rowrow: we loose support at 4am imo
[2017-01-24 03:00:09] MikeHunt : bots will no longer be able to hold the market up
[2017-01-24 03:00:38] MikeHunt : i expect them to trade right up until 4am
[2017-01-24 03:00:49] MikeHunt : epic crash
[2017-01-24 03:00:55] MikeHunt : pboc then steps in to regulate
[2017-01-24 03:01:00] MikeHunt : as they'll have "excuse"
[2017-01-24 03:01:14] rowrow : most bots are market maker/arbitrage bots, they don't hold up the price
[2017-01-24 03:01:32] Rado : I think BTC will go up
[2017-01-24 03:01:34] MikeHunt : rowrow: figuritively speaking
[2017-01-24 03:01:45] MikeHunt : Rado: last time this happened btc dropped $400+
[2017-01-24 03:01:54] Tetsuo : Rado: +10 FTW :BTC: chooo chooo
[2017-01-24 03:02:09] Rado : MikeHunt: last time when what happened?
[2017-01-24 03:02:11] rowrow : MikeHunt: fair enough, guess we just disagree - a crash wouldn't surprise me certainly, i think we're in for volatility either way
[2017-01-24 03:02:12] rapidtrades : Mike u never had critical thinking skills
[2017-01-24 03:02:15] Tetsuo : he´s just a fool
[2017-01-24 03:02:34] Rado : when you have fees you will see people buy and hold
[2017-01-24 03:02:43] Tetsuo : HODL FOR LIFE BROS
[2017-01-24 03:02:47] MikeHunt : Rado: back in 2013, they reintroduced fees after having 0%, it tanked the market
[2017-01-24 03:03:00] Tetsuo : yeah sure , that was the reason
[2017-01-24 03:03:15] cryptwrecked : any excuse to tank it tho
[2017-01-24 03:03:37] airitout : lol tetsuo you're longing quite hard, aren't you :)
[2017-01-24 03:03:48] Tetsuo : yes :-)
[2017-01-24 03:04:02] Rado : China is already $15 premium
[2017-01-24 03:04:11] rowrow : market movement in the next 24 hours is going to be based on how people think the changes will affect the price rather than how they actually affect the price (which will have its own impact over time, but you'll never be able to isolate it)
[2017-01-24 03:04:18] MikeHunt : if im wrong, i loose nothing, i rejoin the run, if im right, i make a tonne
[2017-01-24 03:05:12] rowrow : not saying you're wrong, but if a lot of people thought in that exact way it would imply a huge bull run
[2017-01-24 03:05:41] Noobz : either way is good to me
[2017-01-24 03:05:42] Tetsuo : MikeHunt: u wouldn´t recognize your own dick if it slaps you right in your face
[2017-01-24 03:06:03] airitout : watch the one tetsuo
[2017-01-24 03:06:08] airitout : *tone
[2017-01-24 03:06:35] rowrow : i'm more scared of the premium than the actual market movement
[2017-01-24 03:07:25] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: well having never seen it that close before...
[2017-01-24 03:08:27] MikeHunt : i looked back at 2013 stats, it did trace fully afterwards
[2017-01-24 03:08:29] Apocalyptic : okc pumpin
[2017-01-24 03:08:51] MikeHunt : but the drop would put it bellow the 5k support line
[2017-01-24 03:10:04] abbey : the bull is strong
[2017-01-24 03:10:20] rowrow : wonder if someone wanted to manipulate the market, if they'd do it while there are no fees or do it after to make it look more legitimate
[2017-01-24 03:10:39] Yuppie : Still 15$ diacount on the future
[2017-01-24 03:11:00] carl : Can anyone explain why the mark price is so much higher than the last price?
[2017-01-24 03:11:21] abbey : REKTs incoming
[2017-01-24 03:11:29] Rado : Yuppie: $15 discount is great
[2017-01-24 03:11:29] Yuppie : When we had the last China Premium Futute was trading 50$+ premium
[2017-01-24 03:12:25] rowrow : Yuppie: long is, by default, usually a higher premium than short, but yeah there were some crazy premiums on long before
[2017-01-24 03:12:42] Yuppie : Rado: I know just stops in this market are super dangerous
[2017-01-24 03:12:47] Tetsuo : H17 was quite some fun from 800 to 1300 to 700 all within 5 weeks, not bad
[2017-01-24 03:13:28] Rado : Tetsuo: I was short at 1250, but got stopped out at 1260
[2017-01-24 03:13:32] Rado : very tight stop
[2017-01-24 03:13:35] Tetsuo : Damn
[2017-01-24 03:13:37] rowrow : that is pretty impressive compared to how slow bitcoin had been moving for a while
[2017-01-24 03:13:55] Rado : thinking in retrospective I did not need to have that tight of a stop
[2017-01-24 03:14:13] Yuppie : rowrow: show me any market in finacial instrument where the borrower gets paid ? (Ok, govies dont count)
[2017-01-24 03:15:05] cryptwrecked : cant believe i've stayed up for this zzz
[2017-01-24 03:15:14] Rado : even swap is $8 discount
[2017-01-24 03:15:20] Rado : people are very nervous I guess
[2017-01-24 03:15:37] rowrow : yeah
[2017-01-24 03:16:27] narnarfromnarnia : why are we $8 below
[2017-01-24 03:16:30] narnarfromnarnia : this is horse shit
[2017-01-24 03:16:33] narnarfromnarnia : pump
[2017-01-24 03:16:47] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: people dont want to stay on BitTanic
[2017-01-24 03:16:52] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: lifeboat betta
[2017-01-24 03:18:07] cryptwrecked : handing out rubber rings, grab yours before it's too late
[2017-01-24 03:20:30] cryptwrecked : nothing is going to happen and i'm just going to knackered tomorrow, promptly followed by jacking in btc trading again
[2017-01-24 03:20:42] micmix : very soon we will have the answer to a very interesting question: is okc pump/dump bot run by okc or by someone else
[2017-01-24 03:20:58] MikeHunt : some think okc might be insolvent
[2017-01-24 03:20:58] narnarfromnarnia : micmix: okc man
[2017-01-24 03:21:05] narnarfromnarnia : and they used monopoly money
[2017-01-24 03:21:10] micmix : that would be my guess too
[2017-01-24 03:21:36] MikeHunt : even after this settles, theres no guarantee all 3 will be able to keep going
[2017-01-24 03:22:45] enki0182 : what advantage if any does xbth17 have over just straight perpetual swaps? I dont understand (as you can buy or sell either at any time...?
[2017-01-24 03:22:55] MikeHunt : enki0182: no fees
[2017-01-24 03:23:03] MikeHunt : enki0182: premium
[2017-01-24 03:23:16] MikeHunt : enki0182: however premium can be a double edged sword
[2017-01-24 03:23:43] enki0182 : thank you mike.
[2017-01-24 03:23:47] MikeHunt : np
[2017-01-24 03:24:53] micmix : enki0182: h17 trades with premium/discount but there are no funding fees. think of it as a difference between variable interest rate (swap) and fixed interest rate paid immediately (h17 futures)
[2017-01-24 03:26:01] enki0182 : micmix: ok - thanks for the example... makes more sense to me now.
[2017-01-24 03:26:09] Rado : micmix: good description
[2017-01-24 03:27:52] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: did you close or still in position?
[2017-01-24 03:28:16] happy : why the mark price is so high...909.48
[2017-01-24 03:28:16] micmix : enki0182: so far it was cheaper to use futures for long-term position in the direction of the trend
[2017-01-24 03:28:26] Rado : Is it all 3 exchanges going with fees at 12 or only BTCC?
[2017-01-24 03:28:33] enki0182 : i closed before bed last night... i put in a small one earlier and snatched another 0.04 xbt in the expected mini dump.
[2017-01-24 03:28:40] enki0182 : right now i have no positions
[2017-01-24 03:28:55] ixess : i got liquidated $1 above my entry and lost 100% how does that work?
[2017-01-24 03:29:17] happy : ixess: fxxk the mark price is so high
[2017-01-24 03:29:25] Rado : ixess: you were at 100x leverage
[2017-01-24 03:29:56] Rado : and yes mark price is used for liquidations
[2017-01-24 03:30:17] happy : ixess: Don't short when mark price is 6 dollars above market price
[2017-01-24 03:30:31] happy : I mean don't short 100x
[2017-01-24 03:30:37] ixess : i entered at 75x, and liquidations are at last price right?
[2017-01-24 03:30:54] aethlios : 30 min. left
[2017-01-24 03:31:01] Apocalyptic : ixess: liquidation is at mark
[2017-01-24 03:31:04] Apocalyptic : not last
[2017-01-24 03:31:07] happy : Liquidation are mark price
[2017-01-24 03:31:08] rowrow : ixess: no, liquidations are at "mark price" look at the bottom left of your screen
[2017-01-24 03:31:17] micmix : ixess: anything above 25x with this volatility is suicide
[2017-01-24 03:31:21] happy : and you will be REKT at broke price
[2017-01-24 03:31:23] enki0182 : micmix: so do futures "pay out (or take out)" every 8 hours? is that the idea? when would you use futures?
[2017-01-24 03:31:33] MikeHunt : Rado: all 4
[2017-01-24 03:31:44] Rado : k
[2017-01-24 03:31:59] Noobz : bing bing bong less then half an hour
[2017-01-24 03:32:25] Rado : most likely nothing will happen
[2017-01-24 03:32:30] Noobz : ikr
[2017-01-24 03:32:30] jedisatoshi : that retrace tho
[2017-01-24 03:32:31] MikeHunt : Noobz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxaq5eUWIsM
[2017-01-24 03:32:34] micmix : enki0182: no, it's the other way around. swap positions are paid/charged funding fee every 8 hours. there is no fee on futures except when you buy or sell
[2017-01-24 03:33:41] enki0182 : micmix: thats EXCATLY what i was missing... thank you to all who helped me understand
[2017-01-24 03:33:49] micmix : enki0182: generally speaking use futures for long-term trades, week or more
[2017-01-24 03:34:16] Rado : micmix: even for a couple of days I use futures
[2017-01-24 03:34:23] Rado : swap only for day trading
[2017-01-24 03:34:59] Noobz : MikeHunt: there is a 10 hour version of that one
[2017-01-24 03:35:00] enki0182 : I see - so if swing trading / daily fun - use swaps... if being a generally levg'd hodler - use futures...
[2017-01-24 03:36:13] happy : i don't understand this shit
[2017-01-24 03:36:28] happy : I got rekt
[2017-01-24 03:36:29] MikeHunt : Noobz: must watch
[2017-01-24 03:36:40] happy : @915price
[2017-01-24 03:36:45] cryptwrecked : well, this is enthralling
[2017-01-24 03:37:05] rowrow : you can use swap if you want for long term positions, but you're also gambling on funding rate
[2017-01-24 03:37:19] Noobz : MikeHunt: seems to be deleted sadly
[2017-01-24 03:37:23] cryptwrecked : @happy, i'll probably be joining you soon
[2017-01-24 03:37:27] rowrow : where with futures, unless you plan to hold to conclusion, you're also gambling on market sentiment
[2017-01-24 03:38:00] ytaews : aren't you gambling on funding rate by trading futures as well though?
[2017-01-24 03:38:01] Sheriff : How do the swaps determine funding rate?
[2017-01-24 03:38:14] Sheriff : And whether shorts or longs get gently caressed?
[2017-01-24 03:38:21] rowrow : ytaews: no, no funding rate on futures, just how the price differs from market when you buy
[2017-01-24 03:38:22] Rado : micmix: the main H17 MM reduced from 25k to 12.5k
[2017-01-24 03:38:37] cryptwrecked : staying up till 4am, then i'm turning this off, don't care what happens to my trade, if i profit then woopoo, if not then see you later, its been great knowing you all
[2017-01-24 03:38:37] ytaews : rowrow: sure, and that's an implied average funding rate until expiry
[2017-01-24 03:39:05] carl : Why is the mark price so high exactly?
[2017-01-24 03:39:11] rowrow : ytaews: if you want to call it that i suppose, but you know exactly what it is when you enter so there's no gamble
[2017-01-24 03:39:16] Rado : carl: because spot price is
[2017-01-24 03:39:47] rowrow : with funding rate if one of the index exchanges differs from the others you can get lucky/unlucky (bitstamp + okc international i believe)
[2017-01-24 03:39:48] abbey : look at the orderbooks guys
[2017-01-24 03:40:03] ytaews : rowrow: ya, but no guarantee it will be the same when you exit, e.g. what if you were long futures when it was at par with the index, and want to exit now? youve effectively lost $20 bc the implied funding rate has changed
[2017-01-24 03:40:06] abbey : tsunami is coming
[2017-01-24 03:40:18] Rado : abbey: maybe
[2017-01-24 03:40:18] MikeHunt : this chats moving faster
[2017-01-24 03:40:28] abbey : bull tsunami
[2017-01-24 03:40:28] Sultan Pepper : I can't handle this
[2017-01-24 03:40:30] rowrow : ytaews: yeah that's what i meant by you are also gambling against market sentiment unless you hold to conclusion
[2017-01-24 03:40:41] cryptwrecked : how come my mark price keeps going up?
[2017-01-24 03:40:44] rowrow : so there's a gamble either way, unless you hold to the end
[2017-01-24 03:41:17] rowrow : price going up, premium staying flat, we're living in bear town
[2017-01-24 03:41:21] Rado : cryptwrecked: it's not your mark price
[2017-01-24 03:41:25] Rado : it is the mark price
[2017-01-24 03:41:34] Rado : and mark price is calculated based on spot price
[2017-01-24 03:42:05] narnarfromnarnia : oops
[2017-01-24 03:42:09] narnarfromnarnia : fat fingered a dump
[2017-01-24 03:42:10] narnarfromnarnia : damnit
[2017-01-24 03:42:21] Rado : cryptwrecked: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2017-01-24 03:42:25] Sultan Pepper : This guy
[2017-01-24 03:42:33] cryptwrecked : cheers rado
[2017-01-24 03:43:26] Apocalyptic : Rado: funny, no red candle on 15m for 2 hours now
[2017-01-24 03:44:09] rowrow : yet the premiums are flat, but if we drop down 50 cny the premiums will probably soar even higher
[2017-01-24 03:44:30] abbey : welcome REKT!
[2017-01-24 03:44:40] Sultan Pepper : Can you fat finger a bigger dump plz?
[2017-01-24 03:44:47] rowrow : we need some shorters to get liquidated
[2017-01-24 03:44:51] Apocalyptic : dump 100% retraced
[2017-01-24 03:44:59] FreeBitcoins : brutal
[2017-01-24 03:45:09] abbey : rowrow: soon
[2017-01-24 03:45:21] cryptwrecked : fucking bear trap fml
[2017-01-24 03:46:06] cryptwrecked : getting teased by bots basically, what a life, what an experience, what a way to live
[2017-01-24 03:46:16] narnarfromnarnia : dang
[2017-01-24 03:46:17] narnarfromnarnia : fat finger
[2017-01-24 03:46:20] narnarfromnarnia : mistakes
[2017-01-24 03:46:21] cryptwrecked : just rekt me please
[2017-01-24 03:46:31] Tetsuo : chinese bitcoiners buyin and HODL forever from now on
[2017-01-24 03:46:37] Apocalyptic : everyone must be long on okc now
[2017-01-24 03:46:40] cryptwrecked : get it over and done with, stop cock teasing
[2017-01-24 03:46:49] Rado : cryptwrecked: what price is your liquidation?
[2017-01-24 03:46:58] cryptwrecked : 915
[2017-01-24 03:47:06] Tetsuo : cryptwrecked: how loarge is your position just so that that we know how to laugh @ when REKT announces it
[2017-01-24 03:47:18] Tetsuo : ah ok
[2017-01-24 03:47:18] FreeBitcoins : cryptwrecked: just reduce position so can weather the correction
[2017-01-24 03:47:39] cryptwrecked : 3000 @ 915.28
[2017-01-24 03:47:49] cryptwrecked : how do i reduce my position?
[2017-01-24 03:47:49] Apocalyptic : dumping
[2017-01-24 03:48:00] Tetsuo : die with honour and get rekt
[2017-01-24 03:48:05] FreeBitcoins : cryptwrecked: you buy some back
[2017-01-24 03:48:31] cryptwrecked : at this current price?
[2017-01-24 03:48:31] FreeBitcoins : that liq is right on where many traders will want to sell
[2017-01-24 03:49:49] cryptwrecked : I'm always perfectly placed....exactly on the opposite side of where i intended to be, fml
[2017-01-24 03:49:57] rowrow : cryptwrecked: if you're short on spot with a liquidation $2 a way, selling part of your position is likely a smart move (due to mark price), but up to you
[2017-01-24 03:50:03] Tetsuo : cryptwrecked: it will get even worse
[2017-01-24 03:50:29] cryptokeeper : we are going to walk it up another five
[2017-01-24 03:50:39] cryptokeeper : do it
[2017-01-24 03:50:55] happy : This is so weried
[2017-01-24 03:50:56] cryptwrecked : selling a part of my position, or buying a little here? I'm short from 894. I fell for the bear trap
[2017-01-24 03:51:04] happy : Mark price is so fxxxing high
[2017-01-24 03:51:07] Rado : cryptwrecked: is all of your balance invested?
[2017-01-24 03:51:16] Rado : if not you can reduce leverage
[2017-01-24 03:51:26] cryptokeeper : cryptwrecked: you would buy if you are short and want to reduce and take a loss
[2017-01-24 03:51:33] rowrow : right now we're basically going to be playing a game of "which way do the market manipulators want to push the price"
[2017-01-24 03:51:40] cryptokeeper : Rado: that too
[2017-01-24 03:51:49] cryptwrecked : no, but i don't have much wiggle room if my margin keeps going up due to price increase
[2017-01-24 03:52:00] cryptokeeper : never trade with a full balance. most of the people in here cant afford to lose it
[2017-01-24 03:52:33] cryptwrecked : this could be adios my 2107 btc trading career.
[2017-01-24 03:52:56] cryptokeeper : all in one trade? lol WAT
[2017-01-24 03:53:02] cryptokeeper : 3000cont?
[2017-01-24 03:53:07] MikeHunt : yeh dude stay at 1x
[2017-01-24 03:53:18] MikeHunt : we have no idea how china will react
[2017-01-24 03:53:27] MikeHunt : could be short squeeze and then dump
[2017-01-24 03:53:32] cryptokeeper : only trade with 25% of your account and use a bit of margin... like 10x
[2017-01-24 03:53:49] cryptokeeper : or even smaller dust and higher leverage if you just want to gamble... but still
[2017-01-24 03:54:06] cryptwrecked : if i lose it i lose it, it's not the end of the world, but i will be annoyed at myself for getting roped in to the drama of to all again for diddly squat sense of achievement.
[2017-01-24 03:55:03] Sultan Pepper : What happens if I change leverage before closing?
[2017-01-24 03:55:40] cryptwrecked : yeah, I'm 3000 contracts short from 894.97 x 100 leverage
[2017-01-24 03:55:45] cryptokeeper : you can IF you have available xbt in account
[2017-01-24 03:55:45] rowrow : Sultan Pepper: there's no reason to do that, changing leverage just effects maximum balance applied to the position
[2017-01-24 03:55:50] MikeHunt : x100? jebus
[2017-01-24 03:56:04] cryptwrecked : I've been in the red ever since opening the trade
[2017-01-24 03:56:09] rowrow : if you're closing the position anyway, no point of changing leverage - but increasing the leverage could cause you to accidentally get liquidated
[2017-01-24 03:56:26] Sultan Pepper : Gotcha. Thanks
[2017-01-24 03:56:30] rowrow : np
[2017-01-24 03:57:22] rowrow : 3 minutes to fee implementation, right? will markets freeze for a couple minutes?
[2017-01-24 03:57:39] cryptwrecked : i can't do shit, my hands are tied now. either i get raped sacrificially raped by king kong or i pull an escape artist number
[2017-01-24 03:57:42] rowrow : (not on here obviously, on on CN exchanges)
[2017-01-24 03:57:47] aethlios : spot reversed all dump
[2017-01-24 03:58:30] Apocalyptic : aethlios: yep
[2017-01-24 03:58:37] Papou : http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/01/24/bitcoin-price-technical-analysis-01242017-reversal-candlesticks-sighted/
[2017-01-24 03:58:43] Papou : DOJI CANDLE SPOTTED
[2017-01-24 03:58:52] Papou : THATS THE BEAR WHALE SIGNAL
[2017-01-24 03:59:03] Papou : rekts incoming
[2017-01-24 03:59:38] Rado : Papou: get lost
[2017-01-24 03:59:38] cryptokeeper : Papou: lol what are u talking about
[2017-01-24 04:00:01] rowrow : well... here it is
[2017-01-24 04:00:35] aethlios : do you see any announcement from their web sites???
[2017-01-24 04:00:45] rowrow : no, market appears frozen though
[2017-01-24 04:01:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 30000 @ 902.93
[2017-01-24 04:01:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 6400 @ 6384.4
[2017-01-24 04:01:03] rowrow : lol-f*ing-L
[2017-01-24 04:01:05] chromaticcr1 : huh
[2017-01-24 04:01:12] chromaticcr1 : interesting
[2017-01-24 04:01:16] Tetsuo : cryptwreckedbam
[2017-01-24 04:01:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2121 @ 911.48
[2017-01-24 04:01:22] Apocalyptic : WTF
[2017-01-24 04:01:23] Tetsuo : BOOOOOOM
[2017-01-24 04:01:28] Tetsuo : FUCK U TARDY BEARS
[2017-01-24 04:01:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 15 @ 6439.6
[2017-01-24 04:01:32] Tetsuo : FUCK U PAPOU
[2017-01-24 04:01:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 912.88
[2017-01-24 04:01:35] REKT : :btc: :rocket: :crescent_moon:
[2017-01-24 04:01:38] Tetsuo : HOWS THAT WORKIN OUT FOR YO
[2017-01-24 04:01:50] narnarfromnarnia : omg
[2017-01-24 04:01:51] narnarfromnarnia : wtf
[2017-01-24 04:01:53] Tetsuo : Back with a band
[2017-01-24 04:01:53] abbey : hell yeah!
[2017-01-24 04:01:54] rowrow : if only i weren't a retard and saved money to take advantage of the -150 premium
[2017-01-24 04:01:59] narnarfromnarnia : i sold at 905
[2017-01-24 04:02:00] jezeus : dang
[2017-01-24 04:02:01] Noobz : weeeeeee
[2017-01-24 04:02:02] cryptwrecked : thats me, I'm rekt, see ya guys
[2017-01-24 04:02:05] cryptwrecked : have fun
[2017-01-24 04:02:07] rowrow : eh, chat filter, fair enough
[2017-01-24 04:02:08] Tetsuo : bye
[2017-01-24 04:02:09] jezeus : bought 897 I sold at 910
[2017-01-24 04:02:16] Apocalyptic : holy shit
[2017-01-24 04:02:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50000 @ 919.96 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-24 04:02:30] Noobz : 950
[2017-01-24 04:02:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 4201 @ 923.49
[2017-01-24 04:02:45] aethlios : manipulators........
[2017-01-24 04:02:46] Rado : BTCC no trades?
[2017-01-24 04:02:52] happy : holy f
[2017-01-24 04:03:10] Sultan Pepper : Laser beam
[2017-01-24 04:03:23] rowrow : i probably should have sold some on that pump, but don't want to sell when i don't know what's going on and markets are freezing
[2017-01-24 04:03:36] VenCap : wtf was that
[2017-01-24 04:03:39] narnarfromnarnia : you guys don't realize
[2017-01-24 04:03:41] VenCap : 20 usd jump
[2017-01-24 04:03:43] narnarfromnarnia : shorts have to close from the top
[2017-01-24 04:03:44] jedisatoshi : I remember saying earlier that everyone was too bearish!!! and too many are short! hahahhaahahah!
[2017-01-24 04:03:49] narnarfromnarnia : and there's no margin to sell back down
[2017-01-24 04:03:57] narnarfromnarnia : its gonna get real weird
[2017-01-24 04:04:10] rowrow : the fight has begun
[2017-01-24 04:04:19] jezeus : you actually have to have the coins to short in china, find out who the real bears are quick
[2017-01-24 04:04:55] j8 : hilarious
[2017-01-24 04:05:08] micmix : "introducing fees to reduce volatility" lol
[2017-01-24 04:05:23] Rado : [2017-01-24 03:01:32] Rado : I think BTC will go up
[2017-01-24 04:05:25] Noobz : lol
[2017-01-24 04:05:28] Tetsuo : micmix: lol
[2017-01-24 04:05:44] Rado : j8: hey man
[2017-01-24 04:05:49] j8 : whats up
[2017-01-24 04:05:55] Rado : having fun
[2017-01-24 04:06:01] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-24 04:06:01] j8 : yeah this is wild
[2017-01-24 04:06:10] Tetsuo : Rado: :-)
[2017-01-24 04:06:23] micmix : thank you all for super cheap quarterlies
[2017-01-24 04:06:30] Tetsuo : micmix: +100000
[2017-01-24 04:06:32] Rado : micmix: exactly
[2017-01-24 04:06:41] Rado : too bad I bought only 1/3 of my usual
[2017-01-24 04:07:02] Tetsuo : i wen´t badass lon like 3x more of my normal :-)
[2017-01-24 04:07:15] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-24 04:07:23] Tetsuo : :BTC: :-)
[2017-01-24 04:08:08] MikeHunt : okcoin dont look right
[2017-01-24 04:08:12] Sultan Pepper : Pump and what?
[2017-01-24 04:08:16] jezeus : if you went to bed 8 hours ago and just now wake up you wouldn't know anything happened
[2017-01-24 04:08:27] Noobz : lol
[2017-01-24 04:08:41] Tetsuo : real bitcoiners don´t sleep
[2017-01-24 04:08:59] jezeus : yea cocaine is a helluva drug
[2017-01-24 04:09:33] VenCap : final death throw before huge red candle
[2017-01-24 04:09:35] Sultan Pepper : Btc is making my eye twitch
[2017-01-24 04:09:42] MikeHunt : been up 36hrs so far
[2017-01-24 04:09:45] yungyang : haven't heard much from mike
[2017-01-24 04:09:47] yungyang : oh there he is
[2017-01-24 04:09:49] narnarfromnarnia : it just got rid of the shorters
[2017-01-24 04:10:53] MikeHunt : here we go
[2017-01-24 04:11:02] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: ?
[2017-01-24 04:11:11] Sultan Pepper : 36h Mike?
[2017-01-24 04:11:17] Sultan Pepper : seriously?
[2017-01-24 04:11:21] yungyang : bitcoin mike
[2017-01-24 04:11:40] abbey : his hallusinating
[2017-01-24 04:11:45] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: yeh + hvy labor
[2017-01-24 04:11:56] Sultan Pepper : Jesus man
[2017-01-24 04:12:14] Sultan Pepper : You gon sleep well tonight!
[2017-01-24 04:12:27] Sultan Pepper : Well, maybe
[2017-01-24 04:13:29] narnarfromnarnia : some info that stops were there that large was known
[2017-01-24 04:13:30] narnarfromnarnia : for sure
[2017-01-24 04:13:31] narnarfromnarnia : imo
[2017-01-24 04:13:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 74970 @ 914.36 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-24 04:14:03] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-24 04:14:37] aethlios : rekt longs, reverse 100% and rekt shorts
[2017-01-24 04:15:14] aethlios : old good 2013 volatile btc, i don't see any adoption happening with such price manipulation
[2017-01-24 04:15:17] VenCap : cat bonuces high for being dead
[2017-01-24 04:15:26] MikeHunt : i hope this shorts itself out within 7 hours, dont wanna pay funding
[2017-01-24 04:16:19] Tetsuo : yeah sure funding is the greatest issue in volatile times like these....
[2017-01-24 04:16:21] VenCap : can we see top contract holders here for btc?
[2017-01-24 04:16:24] Rado : VenCap: being dead?
[2017-01-24 04:16:30] Rado : where do you love man?
[2017-01-24 04:16:31] aethlios : MikeHunt: can we find if fees are reality???
[2017-01-24 04:16:38] Rado : live
[2017-01-24 04:16:52] MikeHunt : aethlios: ?
[2017-01-24 04:16:58] Sultan Pepper : North mexico?
[2017-01-24 04:17:11] Tetsuo : bears be like ??????????????????
[2017-01-24 04:17:56] MikeHunt : looks like a bear just existed at 4am on okc
[2017-01-24 04:18:02] MikeHunt : exited*
[2017-01-24 04:19:06] guacamole : aethlios: the price itself actually wasn't that volatile, just the futures
[2017-01-24 04:19:30] narnarfromnarnia : there is no bear juice
[2017-01-24 04:19:36] narnarfromnarnia : shorts from 1100's
[2017-01-24 04:19:39] narnarfromnarnia : have to close
[2017-01-24 04:19:44] aethlios : btcc says 0.2% fees, but okcoin says on website 0. btcc spread 0.35% now.
[2017-01-24 04:19:51] aethlios : bid ask spread
[2017-01-24 04:20:25] abbey : also reversed h&s
[2017-01-24 04:20:37] Tetsuo : fees don´t mean shit to the price, if anything than just less manipulation from china
[2017-01-24 04:21:32] VenCap : i think we going to see 800 next few days people
[2017-01-24 04:21:32] Tetsuo : getting rid of this shit is like getting rid of cancer
[2017-01-24 04:22:00] Rado : VenCap: thinking is not going to help you
[2017-01-24 04:22:08] Rado : trade the market
[2017-01-24 04:22:11] MikeHunt : aethlios: so okc aint done it yet?
[2017-01-24 04:22:12] VenCap : amen to that
[2017-01-24 04:22:13] guacamole : someone know if it's maker-taker fee structure in china or flat .2%?
[2017-01-24 04:22:17] VenCap : praying does not work either
[2017-01-24 04:22:48] aethlios : MikeHunt: https://www.okcoin.cn/fees.html also spread bid ask is zero
[2017-01-24 04:23:01] Apocalyptic : there is like 8 times less new trades at OKC cny
[2017-01-24 04:23:09] aethlios : guacamole: btcc 0.20% flat for both maker taker
[2017-01-24 04:23:18] guacamole : ty
[2017-01-24 04:23:20] Apocalyptic : barely 2 trades/seconds now
[2017-01-24 04:23:34] Apocalyptic : was around 30/40 before
[2017-01-24 04:23:48] MikeHunt : so btcc is confirmed
[2017-01-24 04:23:52] MikeHunt : okc aint done it yet
[2017-01-24 04:23:54] MikeHunt : huobi?
[2017-01-24 04:24:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 909.14
[2017-01-24 04:24:56] ixess : bitmex staff, i thought my liquidation would give me back the left over, or else i would have market sold myself, can i have what was left over in this case please?
[2017-01-24 04:25:10] Tetsuo : no
[2017-01-24 04:25:42] MikeHunt : huboi cn now has fees
[2017-01-24 04:25:45] MikeHunt : just okc left
[2017-01-24 04:26:50] guacamole : did the insurance fund here get hit hard with the instant price change on futures?
[2017-01-24 04:27:05] Tetsuo : no
[2017-01-24 04:27:26] VenCap : hold onto your wobbly bits
[2017-01-24 04:28:05] MikeHunt : maybe okcoin staff not update site because they are running to nearest airport
[2017-01-24 04:28:30] Rado : I think we are going to see $950
[2017-01-24 04:29:29] heheh lo : lol arbitrage
[2017-01-24 04:29:46] Papou : lol right rado
[2017-01-24 04:30:03] Papou : ixess u get rekt?
[2017-01-24 04:30:26] Rado : yes Papou, you are next
[2017-01-24 04:30:41] MikeHunt : not expecting action until OKC does fees
[2017-01-24 04:32:17] aethlios : 12 btc traded btc china previous 5 minutes
[2017-01-24 04:32:36] Apocalyptic : aethlios: yeah
[2017-01-24 04:32:41] Apocalyptic : numbers getting real
[2017-01-24 04:32:53] MikeHunt : keep an eye on okc
[2017-01-24 04:33:02] MikeHunt : until they do 0% chins can just move there
[2017-01-24 04:33:03] aethlios : Apocalyptic: from 1000 a normal average 5minute previous
[2017-01-24 04:33:10] Apocalyptic : okc volume dropped like 80%
[2017-01-24 04:33:18] Papou : 550 low
[2017-01-24 04:33:22] Papou : august 2016 low retest
[2017-01-24 04:33:34] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: it seems like they did
[2017-01-24 04:33:44] Apocalyptic : otherwise why so few trades
[2017-01-24 04:33:53] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: they aint updated site yet, hmm
[2017-01-24 04:33:59] MikeHunt : Papou: 3k cny?
[2017-01-24 04:34:01] aethlios : future market is now huge based on spot btc
[2017-01-24 04:34:03] Apocalyptic : that may be true
[2017-01-24 04:34:10] Apocalyptic : but the 80% volume drop is real
[2017-01-24 04:34:47] MikeHunt : i think it will take a while before this sets in
[2017-01-24 04:36:36] aethlios : btcc last 5minute 5 btc volume from 1000 average
[2017-01-24 04:36:57] aethlios : okcoin volume looks like a no fee volume yet
[2017-01-24 04:37:13] VenCap : we could see some nasty surprsies?
[2017-01-24 04:37:30] VenCap : if vol has been faked for so long. its cant be good for short term price
[2017-01-24 04:37:58] aethlios : no spot price leader now.
[2017-01-24 04:38:15] MikeHunt : i place bottom around 3-4k cny
[2017-01-24 04:38:23] MikeHunt : or the new "mean"
[2017-01-24 04:38:39] VenCap : mike usd price 500 -600?
[2017-01-24 04:38:43] MikeHunt : yes
[2017-01-24 04:38:48] MikeHunt : might take a while thou
[2017-01-24 04:39:01] VenCap : not a bad entry price for new commers
[2017-01-24 04:39:11] VenCap : 600 would be fine
[2017-01-24 04:39:33] MikeHunt : i dont think we'll see gox style crash, just everything will be shifted down
[2017-01-24 04:39:54] MikeHunt : unless every1 panics...
[2017-01-24 04:40:06] VenCap : trump jut pulled out of china also
[2017-01-24 04:40:35] aethlios : last full 5minute okcoin 96 btc volume from 800
[2017-01-24 04:40:37] VenCap : trans pacific deal
[2017-01-24 04:40:49] VenCap : vol sustains price
[2017-01-24 04:42:27] MikeHunt : aethlios: what are you using for stats?
[2017-01-24 04:42:47] aethlios : MikeHunt: cryptowat
[2017-01-24 04:43:26] MikeHunt : in 2013 iirc the volume dropped by ~ the same percentage
[2017-01-24 04:44:10] aethlios : if volume was fake, why price is real????
[2017-01-24 04:44:36] Yuppie : Action in future is absurd...was there a massive REKT?
[2017-01-24 04:44:55] MikeHunt : okc is still 0%
[2017-01-24 04:45:12] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: how do you know dude ?
[2017-01-24 04:45:35] Apocalyptic : again, it's not because they haven't updated the site that there's no fee
[2017-01-24 04:45:36] abbey : shoulder ready, up we go!
[2017-01-24 04:46:03] Apocalyptic : aethlios and I have seen the volume figures, something happened at okc too
[2017-01-24 04:46:37] VenCap : abbey or down
[2017-01-24 04:47:00] abbey : REVERSED H&S pattern shoulder 15 charts everywhere
[2017-01-24 04:47:05] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: https://www.okcoin.cn/fees.html
[2017-01-24 04:47:12] abbey : 15min*
[2017-01-24 04:47:18] Rado : MikeHunt: do you have an account
[2017-01-24 04:47:21] Apocalyptic : lol, you must not be reading
[2017-01-24 04:47:23] Rado : make a trade and see
[2017-01-24 04:47:23] MikeHunt : Rado: nop
[2017-01-24 04:47:24] Yuppie : Although in future there a big price jumps and low volume, once can get in an out with reasonable spread and good volume...thats good
[2017-01-24 04:47:32] Apocalyptic : "again, it's not because they haven't updated the site that there's no fee"
[2017-01-24 04:47:50] MikeHunt : im just assuming they arent that incompetant
[2017-01-24 04:47:52] abbey : That is bullish
[2017-01-24 04:48:28] abbey : !
[2017-01-24 04:49:35] abbey : take a look at the okcoin orderbook
[2017-01-24 04:49:38] VenCap : good luck in btc pumping on fresh air
[2017-01-24 04:50:20] MikeHunt : its like china died
[2017-01-24 04:50:25] MikeHunt : but still standing
[2017-01-24 04:50:28] MikeHunt : zombi?
[2017-01-24 04:50:42] abbey : MikeHunt: get some sleep dude
[2017-01-24 04:51:38] abbey : you have think sharp when you trade
[2017-01-24 04:51:46] abbey : have to
[2017-01-24 04:51:52] abbey : *
[2017-01-24 04:52:34] abbey : Do you guys know what reversed h&s pattern is?
[2017-01-24 04:52:45] abbey : or what it means
[2017-01-24 04:52:59] Mm bot : is Bitmex blocked in china?
[2017-01-24 04:53:17] Rado : yes
[2017-01-24 04:53:17] Yuppie : Anyone trading on Quoine?
[2017-01-24 04:53:25] Yuppie : Rado: why?
[2017-01-24 04:53:32] Mm bot : Chinese chat room dead
[2017-01-24 04:53:34] Rado : Yuppie: Chinese regulation
[2017-01-24 04:53:44] Yuppie : Leverage?
[2017-01-24 04:53:46] Rado : you have to be in the mainland to have an exchange
[2017-01-24 04:54:00] Yuppie : I see
[2017-01-24 04:54:27] Mm bot : i thought this margin ban would give bitmex some edge
[2017-01-24 04:54:29] Yuppie : happy Europe is easy on all of those trading things
[2017-01-24 04:54:43] abbey : we go nowhere but up
[2017-01-24 04:54:53] VenCap : i get rekt
[2017-01-24 04:55:00] VenCap : hard
[2017-01-24 04:55:02] MikeHunt : abbey: yeh im gonna set alarm n go sleep b4 i turn into a zomi