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[2017-01-24 00:25:00] guacamole : no guarantees it's over either
[2017-01-24 00:25:09] cryptwrecked : it's having an epileptic fit
[2017-01-24 00:25:17] MikeHunt : also u think its bad now? wait until 4am UTC.....Red dildo right ahead.... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nwc6u
[2017-01-24 00:25:21] cz9emcu : shes getting ready to blow. watch out below
[2017-01-24 00:26:39] MikeHunt : also this is where we are likely going (chart)... http://i.imgur.com/6obXxD5.png
[2017-01-24 00:26:51] cryptwrecked : this is fun
[2017-01-24 00:27:02] Noobz : it sure is
[2017-01-24 00:28:06] Sultan Pepper : Too low. Cup and handle
[2017-01-24 00:28:16] Sultan Pepper : Mike hunt
[2017-01-24 00:28:36] Therippler : cant deposit whats wrong still just get mail with deposit every h
[2017-01-24 00:28:38] Therippler : ...
[2017-01-24 00:29:13] Sheriff : Everyone just short whenever I go long, easy money
[2017-01-24 00:29:17] happy : China going to have 0.2% fee for all trades later today
[2017-01-24 00:29:34] Noobz : Therippler: There is a backlog of 50.000 tx atm
[2017-01-24 00:29:41] Ahhere : so this whale wanted one last freebie
[2017-01-24 00:31:07] Ahhere : my btc hit in lesss than 5 mins after the bottom of the day @Therippler
[2017-01-24 00:33:15] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: TA wont predict whats coming
[2017-01-24 00:33:25] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: fundamentals trump TA this time
[2017-01-24 00:33:33] Sultan Pepper : Probably right
[2017-01-24 00:33:59] ryvirath : I got out of my mega long, switched to ETH this morning
[2017-01-24 00:34:01] ryvirath : blah
[2017-01-24 00:34:31] MikeHunt : ryvirath: alts usually get raped in mega dumps as well
[2017-01-24 00:34:39] ryvirath : yeah that's why I say blah
[2017-01-24 00:34:45] ryvirath : fiat will go down, ratio might go up slightly
[2017-01-24 00:34:51] MikeHunt : shame there are no uncorrelated altcoins
[2017-01-24 00:34:59] cryptwrecked : anyone else wait for the move until they opened a position? Nothing like reactionary trading, even if i'm donkey years late. Better late than never though, this has potential to get epic, hehe!
[2017-01-24 00:35:26] ryvirath : consistently uncorrelated would be great; used to be eth will be again soon I think
[2017-01-24 00:35:30] MikeHunt : cryptwrecked: im short now, i expect this to move very quickly
[2017-01-24 00:35:45] ryvirath : I would be short too
[2017-01-24 00:36:00] ryvirath : mempool, price dropping, only one other thing happening today; chinese fees
[2017-01-24 00:36:02] BTC-Noob : MikeHunt: shall i get out of my long
[2017-01-24 00:36:02] cz9emcu : @cryptwrecked - I'm short too. Expecting much lower than thi
[2017-01-24 00:36:14] BTC-Noob : is btc gonna drop more
[2017-01-24 00:36:22] MikeHunt : BTC-Noob: well in 2013, same china thing happened, it dropped $400 in a few hours
[2017-01-24 00:36:41] ryvirath : volatility makes that impossible I think
[2017-01-24 00:36:44] cryptwrecked : my entry was lower than i wanted it to be, but i fomo'd anyway
[2017-01-24 00:36:51] ryvirath : but maybe to test the trend line in the 700s?
[2017-01-24 00:36:56] MikeHunt : BTC-Noob: i'd rather loose an opportunity to gain, than loose an opportunity to save what i have gained
[2017-01-24 00:37:17] MikeHunt : ryvirath: it may well go straight through it
[2017-01-24 00:37:31] MikeHunt : ryvirath: looks at the gox freefall
[2017-01-24 00:38:17] ryvirath : this is nowhere near that level of catastrophe; I don't think this is strong enough to reverse the bull trend
[2017-01-24 00:38:18] cz9emcu : <-- that's being cautious. Buying one XBTUSD contract at a time
[2017-01-24 00:39:00] MikeHunt : ryvirath: it was $880 back then when china dumped it down to $400s
[2017-01-24 00:39:32] cryptwrecked : we breached the shorter term uptrend a little while ago, kind feels like hanging on to a cliff edge by the fingernails, can hear them cracking
[2017-01-24 00:40:09] aethlios : MikeHunt: the doom chart is possible, reverse the china fake volume pump, also scalability problem crisis, possible fork of btc. segwit has 25% to 30% addoption and needs 95%??
[2017-01-24 00:40:09] ryvirath : MikeHunt: on the chart of volatility you'll see it was many multiples higher as an average back then
[2017-01-24 00:40:10] rapidtrades : any new news?
[2017-01-24 00:40:18] ryvirath : btc is pretty tame today by comparison
[2017-01-24 00:40:24] rapidtrades : or just the old news getting through ur thick skulls?
[2017-01-24 00:40:27] MikeHunt : aethlios: yeh 2017 is gonna be a wild ride
[2017-01-24 00:40:55] BTC-Noob : MikeHunt: massive reks incoming then perhaps wow. do you base your decisions on anyt analysis?
[2017-01-24 00:40:58] cryptwrecked : these bull/bear cycles last years
[2017-01-24 00:40:58] MikeHunt : ryvirath: its up to you, i'd just rather hold my gains than risk getting red dildoed
[2017-01-24 00:40:59] Noobz : wild rides are good
[2017-01-24 00:41:14] MikeHunt : BTC-Noob: on history and what china is gonna do next
[2017-01-24 00:41:24] rapidtrades : aethlios: hey are u sure u get cashback on ATM withdrawals as well?
[2017-01-24 00:41:26] ryvirath : MikeHunt: I'm in ETH waiting/hoping for the decoupling
[2017-01-24 00:41:35] MikeHunt : ryvirath: which may or may not happen
[2017-01-24 00:41:42] aethlios : MikeHunt: 200 usd btc and 1 usd for LTC bargain targets
[2017-01-24 00:41:53] Farzad : next drop will come soon
[2017-01-24 00:41:53] ryvirath : if BTC really tanks, it will; not enough sellers
[2017-01-24 00:41:54] Farzad : get ready
[2017-01-24 00:42:08] MikeHunt : aethlios: you shorting ltc as well?
[2017-01-24 00:43:03] aethlios : MikeHunt: no, has low liquidity, i prefer btc, but i like as a buy to 1 usd.
[2017-01-24 00:43:27] MikeHunt : aethlios: buy @ $1 ?
[2017-01-24 00:43:35] cryptwrecked : it's been bear trap after bear trap all year, is it now bull trap time?
[2017-01-24 00:43:41] aethlios : rapidtrades: yes yiu get, wait 24 hours to show, go to cashback account
[2017-01-24 00:43:54] MikeHunt : cryptwrecked: bull traps tend to be the nastiest
[2017-01-24 00:44:40] cryptwrecked : if we've reversed, then nasty can be expected
[2017-01-24 00:44:57] cz9emcu : this bull is trying to buck you off before it can go higher. First a deep lunge - air pocket
[2017-01-24 00:45:00] rapidtrades : aethlios: ok cool...and for the fees it will auto-draw them from cashback account first?
[2017-01-24 00:46:06] aethlios : rapidtrades: fees for trading 0.5% are paid, fees for ATM yes are auto draw from cash back.
[2017-01-24 00:47:01] rapidtrades : right...its only for card fees not trading fees
[2017-01-24 00:47:37] Farzad : next dump on the way
[2017-01-24 00:48:20] narnarfromnarnia : its coming
[2017-01-24 00:49:18] rapidtrades : aethlios: tnx for letting me know about the card, been working great so far
[2017-01-24 00:49:19] Sultan Pepper : This is like trying to come when you're drunk...
[2017-01-24 00:49:32] rapidtrades : hopefully they won't go down as many of these cards do
[2017-01-24 00:49:40] Farzad : rapidtrades: what card ?
[2017-01-24 00:50:55] Tetsuo : GPU mining
[2017-01-24 00:51:55] Sultan Pepper : Hey shorts, where's your stop?
[2017-01-24 00:52:22] jung1 : so what now? $600?
[2017-01-24 00:52:31] Tetsuo : 1000$
[2017-01-24 00:52:41] jung1 : nah
[2017-01-24 00:52:48] cz9emcu : $1800
[2017-01-24 00:52:56] Sheriff : moon
[2017-01-24 00:52:56] jung1 : yuans
[2017-01-24 00:54:16] Sultan Pepper : Wtf was that?
[2017-01-24 00:54:17] rowrow : market has 60% recovered from the drop - wasn't even that huge a drop, but futures still don't seem to believe it
[2017-01-24 00:54:25] birdie numn : last sub 900 coin ya'll ever gonna get!!
[2017-01-24 00:54:27] birdie numn : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛ ..○
[2017-01-24 00:55:07] aethlios : Farzad: bitcoin debit card from coinsbank.com
[2017-01-24 00:56:18] Farzad : aethlios: ty
[2017-01-24 00:56:19] aethlios : no with no leverage in china and fees, futures is the only way to trade, so premiums and discounts will be wild.
[2017-01-24 00:57:43] rapidtrades : u never know, extra liquidity could dampen the swings
[2017-01-24 00:58:02] rapidtrades : if MM wont be getting discounts many will switch to futures
[2017-01-24 00:58:18] rapidtrades : @micmix are u getting discounts?
[2017-01-24 00:58:38] ronensinger : This exchanges rebates are so low
[2017-01-24 00:59:06] rapidtrades : they're not low compared to paying 0.2%
[2017-01-24 00:59:23] abbey : weeee
[2017-01-24 00:59:25] ronensinger : Im talking about the rebate
[2017-01-24 00:59:56] rowrow : "the rebate"
[2017-01-24 01:00:03] Noobz : abbey: Having fun? ;)
[2017-01-24 01:00:22] abbey : sure am :D
[2017-01-24 01:00:22] rowrow : would seem to imply the affiliate/referral rebate
[2017-01-24 01:00:47] Noobz : abbey: likewise
[2017-01-24 01:01:10] Sultan Pepper : The second best thing to winning money gambling is losing money gambling
[2017-01-24 01:01:17] aethlios : wild week ahead
[2017-01-24 01:01:26] ronensinger : Im talking about the maker rebate for MMing
[2017-01-24 01:01:34] rowrow : bitcoin will defy all expectations and trade completely flat
[2017-01-24 01:01:43] abbey : aethlios: yeah!
[2017-01-24 01:01:47] rapidtrades : in ur dreams roro
[2017-01-24 01:02:37] aethlios : btc is highly manipulated, why? uptrends slow for 2 weeks are lost in 3 5minute candles.
[2017-01-24 01:02:39] PurpleCobras : why is bitcoin going down
[2017-01-24 01:03:05] rowrow : ronensinger: it averages out to .025% between maker and taker fee, that sounds fairly reasonable to me - increasing maker rebate would mean higher taker fee
[2017-01-24 01:03:29] ronensinger : rowrow: You have a good point
[2017-01-24 01:04:04] birdie numn : PurpleCobras: bitcoin is not going down. it got drunk and i in the elevator, puhing random buttons.
[2017-01-24 01:04:25] Sheriff : Going long right now and setting a tight stop would be smart, imo
[2017-01-24 01:05:27] rapidtrades : going long now = putting a gun in ur mouth and pulling the triggger
[2017-01-24 01:06:11] aethlios : will ema 200 hold, that's the battle.
[2017-01-24 01:06:18] cryptwrecked : f*** it, I'm adding to my position, get rest or die trying
[2017-01-24 01:06:19] aethlios : will????
[2017-01-24 01:06:26] cz9emcu : zoom out of the 1-minute chart (to at least daily) and you'll see where its gotta go next
[2017-01-24 01:07:35] rapidtrades : it's going to 100
[2017-01-24 01:07:36] rapidtrades : TODAY!
[2017-01-24 01:07:50] cryptwrecked : especially when you see the breaking of the uptrend line from Jan 11th. I think down tbh, but i'm short
[2017-01-24 01:08:19] rowrow : cryptwrecked: if the market itself were price-efficient, now is an amazing time to buy if you have adequate leverage to weather the storm (though not everyone will agree with that assumption)
[2017-01-24 01:09:16] cryptwrecked : if this is an non-event then it just wouldn't be bitcoin
[2017-01-24 01:09:24] Sheriff : rapidtrades: Disagree. This is either correcting back upwards or a whale is making a strong move down. Hence a tight stop in case it tanks
[2017-01-24 01:09:36] Sheriff : Inb4 "either it goes up or down"
[2017-01-24 01:10:07] cryptwrecked : 50/50, place you bets, get rich or get rekt
[2017-01-24 01:10:09] rowrow : Sheriff: but you never know if someone might try a failed mini-drop, it's an interesting strategy but has its risks of course - might be profitable
[2017-01-24 01:10:22] rowrow : tough to say anything with certainty when it comes to markets
[2017-01-24 01:11:08] cryptwrecked : as long as i can send 1 satoshi over the blockchain I really don't give a f***
[2017-01-24 01:11:24] cryptwrecked : that's all I need, 1 satoshi
[2017-01-24 01:11:27] rapidtrades : thank u for this pause perma-bulls
[2017-01-24 01:11:27] Sheriff : rowrow: True
[2017-01-24 01:11:42] happy : any bears out here?
[2017-01-24 01:11:47] rapidtrades : im now ready for the dumpage
[2017-01-24 01:12:00] cryptwrecked : flashcrash pls
[2017-01-24 01:14:11] aethlios : spot very bullish, don't get the message from the future.
[2017-01-24 01:15:18] rapidtrades : aethlios: okc weekly at $19 discount
[2017-01-24 01:16:16] rowrow : do they have a quarterly? curious how that compares to quarterly here if it exists
[2017-01-24 01:16:20] j8 : okc quarterly premium made all time lows
[2017-01-24 01:16:43] rapidtrades : - $29 for quaterly
[2017-01-24 01:16:49] rapidtrades : minues
[2017-01-24 01:16:56] rowrow : ty
[2017-01-24 01:17:09] narnarfromnarnia : buy quarterly?
[2017-01-24 01:17:14] narnarfromnarnia : or dump it lol
[2017-01-24 01:18:08] rowrow : if you have the liquidity to spare, buying quarterly and dumping spot would probably be profitable
[2017-01-24 01:18:35] rapidtrades : it wouldn't be profitable if okc goe out of business
[2017-01-24 01:18:45] rowrow : certainly true, always counterparty risk
[2017-01-24 01:18:57] cryptwrecked : spot = perpetual swap here?
[2017-01-24 01:19:09] Sultan Pepper : How long until fees?
[2017-01-24 01:19:30] rapidtrades : fees should be live
[2017-01-24 01:19:45] rowrow : that would work, but there's a small chance you end up getting screwed by funding - probably not $29 worth though, it usually favors shorts
[2017-01-24 01:19:58] Sultan Pepper : Oh I thought we had a couple hours or so
[2017-01-24 01:20:04] Sultan Pepper : chinese fees
[2017-01-24 01:20:10] cz9emcu : 40mins
[2017-01-24 01:20:16] Sultan Pepper : Thx
[2017-01-24 01:20:26] rapidtrades : @sleger how are btcc futures trading?
[2017-01-24 01:20:28] j8 : isn't it at noon CST?
[2017-01-24 01:20:31] cz9emcu : 2h14m sorry
[2017-01-24 01:20:38] Sultan Pepper : Ah ok
[2017-01-24 01:21:19] rapidtrades : anyone has the discount for bitvc futures?
[2017-01-24 01:21:29] rowrow : cz9emcu: 2:40 you mean? that's what i had heard previously
[2017-01-24 01:21:44] rowrow : don't think it's as high as here, can check
[2017-01-24 01:22:04] Noobz : 9:21 in china
[2017-01-24 01:22:43] rowrow : 6230
[2017-01-24 01:22:53] rowrow : so like 45-50 discount
[2017-01-24 01:23:10] rapidtrades : in yuan or dollars
[2017-01-24 01:23:19] rowrow : so you're better off buying here/selling there (discount in cny)
[2017-01-24 01:24:13] MikeHunt : 4am UTC (noon china)
[2017-01-24 01:24:14] rapidtrades : thats a very small discount compared to okc, could indicate they're insolvent
[2017-01-24 01:25:07] j8 : i dunno okc spot hasn't sold off so hard. it's all futures
[2017-01-24 01:26:08] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-01-24 01:27:22] cryptwrecked : maybe this is the start of a slow sell get out rather than an insta-dump
[2017-01-24 01:27:25] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: okc insolvent bro ?
[2017-01-24 01:30:13] aethlios : i am curious for the real chinese volumes.
[2017-01-24 01:30:18] FreeBitcoins : im hearing this insolvency thing thrown about ?
[2017-01-24 01:30:37] Sultan Pepper : Candles be flippin yo
[2017-01-24 01:30:47] Apocalyptic : dis wild
[2017-01-24 01:30:49] narnarfromnarnia : 15m will turn around in 30 min
[2017-01-24 01:30:59] narnarfromnarnia : will be back to 915 and maybe on up to 940s
[2017-01-24 01:31:04] narnarfromnarnia : before the real shit show
[2017-01-24 01:31:27] Apocalyptic : narnarfromnarnia: seems overly optiéistic
[2017-01-24 01:31:38] MikeHunt : still got another 2.5hrs to go
[2017-01-24 01:31:41] narnarfromnarnia : not really
[2017-01-24 01:31:58] narnarfromnarnia : im just holding my buy at 880
[2017-01-24 01:32:19] narnarfromnarnia : for top of 15m wave
[2017-01-24 01:32:24] MikeHunt : i think we may retest 750 and then go back up
[2017-01-24 01:32:27] narnarfromnarnia : could be flat though
[2017-01-24 01:32:29] narnarfromnarnia : hmm
[2017-01-24 01:32:32] narnarfromnarnia : i hope not lol
[2017-01-24 01:32:48] MikeHunt : depends if china panic sells or not
[2017-01-24 01:33:45] Tetsuo : buy the fact
[2017-01-24 01:33:49] narnarfromnarnia : boom
[2017-01-24 01:34:02] rowrow : you would think all predictions would be factored into price at this point, anything in the next 3 hours is just market psychology playing itself
[2017-01-24 01:34:28] rowrow : not to say that market psychology can't become quite expensive if you're on the wrong side of it
[2017-01-24 01:34:37] charlyko : buy the dip
[2017-01-24 01:35:32] rowrow : as long as you buy every dip you're guaranteed to get in at the best price
[2017-01-24 01:35:39] Sultan Pepper : I'm scared to hold my short...
[2017-01-24 01:35:40] narnarfromnarnia : 880 here
[2017-01-24 01:35:41] narnarfromnarnia : 50x
[2017-01-24 01:35:44] narnarfromnarnia : 25x
[2017-01-24 01:35:53] narnarfromnarnia : just waiting for 15m turn over
[2017-01-24 01:35:57] narnarfromnarnia : and i'll take profits
[2017-01-24 01:36:02] narnarfromnarnia : this is just shakeouts
[2017-01-24 01:36:15] FreeBitcoins : the scary thing is china arent awake yet
[2017-01-24 01:36:25] FreeBitcoins : they still making tea
[2017-01-24 01:36:37] Chewie : who the fk sleeps in past 9.30 in China?
[2017-01-24 01:36:40] rowrow : yeah was like 8am there when this mess started
[2017-01-24 01:37:03] rowrow : Chewie: possibly the type of people who would trade cryptocurrency
[2017-01-24 01:37:12] Noobz : well everyone needs a morning coffee dump
[2017-01-24 01:37:44] Chewie : I wouldn't underestimate the Chinese
[2017-01-24 01:38:27] Sultan Pepper : Narnarfromnarnia: idk man, the 15 is looking down too...
[2017-01-24 01:38:40] narnarfromnarnia : huh
[2017-01-24 01:38:51] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/WhpkSoyY/
[2017-01-24 01:38:56] narnarfromnarnia : gotta use signals man
[2017-01-24 01:39:42] Sultan Pepper : I'm looking at the bbands here, and it's broken the bottom and looks to be bouncing off the center
[2017-01-24 01:40:22] cryptwrecked : something's definitely been broken, and i'm fairly sure it aint resistance
[2017-01-24 01:40:31] Noobz : lol
[2017-01-24 01:40:44] MikeHunt : think fundamentals
[2017-01-24 01:42:06] FreeBitcoins : could be an issue in the code. Still too early to tell
[2017-01-24 01:43:02] narnarfromnarnia : letting shorts fill up here
[2017-01-24 01:43:14] narnarfromnarnia : and will be another ride up for rekts
[2017-01-24 01:43:17] narnarfromnarnia : and then a ride down
[2017-01-24 01:43:33] narnarfromnarnia : 905 sell 880 buy
[2017-01-24 01:43:36] narnarfromnarnia : either way
[2017-01-24 01:45:09] cz9emcu : this market got too far ahead of itself (800+) Needs to come back and waffle around there for a while
[2017-01-24 01:49:14] Apocalyptic : cz9emcu: $500 retest incoming for sure
[2017-01-24 01:49:24] ixess : next 10 minutes gonna be fun
[2017-01-24 01:49:25] Apocalyptic : not tomorrow, but still
[2017-01-24 01:49:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5000 @ 876.42
[2017-01-24 01:49:58] Apocalyptic : This is reminiscent of the post 2013 peak, get ready for a bear market
[2017-01-24 01:50:19] ixess : im still holding
[2017-01-24 01:50:31] cz9emcu : Apocalyptic. Maybe, but more likely 600-800
[2017-01-24 01:50:32] cryptwrecked : open the flood gates
[2017-01-24 01:50:51] FreeBitcoins : "buy the dip"
[2017-01-24 01:50:55] MikeHunt : its not even fee time yet lol
[2017-01-24 01:51:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 93782 @ 872.44 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-24 01:51:02] MikeHunt : this is just the starter
[2017-01-24 01:51:12] Apocalyptic : cz9emcu: at first it has to go through 600-800, sure
[2017-01-24 01:51:29] ixess : missed the first one, but this one will probably be bigger
[2017-01-24 01:51:30] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: gonna be epic rekt time
[2017-01-24 01:51:40] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: im so tempted to leverage short
[2017-01-24 01:51:45] MikeHunt : but im scared of ADL
[2017-01-24 01:52:10] Apocalyptic : ADL is a nasty beast for sure
[2017-01-24 01:52:12] cryptwrecked : missed shorting the start of the last bear run, holding this mofo so no more fomo
[2017-01-24 01:52:44] MikeHunt : i have 3 lights on 1x so i dont want to push it
[2017-01-24 01:52:53] ixess : adl would close me at a profit anywhere in here since my entry is good right?
[2017-01-24 01:53:03] MikeHunt : ixess: it just closes you
[2017-01-24 01:53:06] MikeHunt : leaving you hanging
[2017-01-24 01:53:25] MikeHunt : so if bitcoin dropped 30%, it could kick u out after 5%, u loose 25%
[2017-01-24 01:53:30] MikeHunt : sledger lost 100k iirc
[2017-01-24 01:53:37] MikeHunt : on 8888 drop
[2017-01-24 01:53:48] ixess : im happy with a forced close at this price or anywhere below
[2017-01-24 01:54:20] ronensinger : Jesus
[2017-01-24 01:54:38] ixess : but he didn't lose 100k he put in, just potential right?
[2017-01-24 01:55:12] ronensinger : Tpo much volatility for me
[2017-01-24 01:56:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 45000 @ 6041.8
[2017-01-24 01:56:12] Sultan Pepper : Ow
[2017-01-24 01:56:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 4300 @ 6025.6
[2017-01-24 01:56:36] MikeHunt : ixess: well if it kicks u out, your holding BTC, as bitcoin goes down in value, you actually loose $
[2017-01-24 01:57:36] ixess : MikeHunt: well if he doesn't want btc, why not use lower leverage, or how much was he using?
[2017-01-24 01:59:40] MikeHunt : ixess: well if he lost 100k it must have been a considerable position
[2017-01-24 01:59:49] MikeHunt : also 1x leverage isnt always safe
[2017-01-24 02:00:02] MikeHunt : i have a small position and i have 3/5 ADL lights
[2017-01-24 02:00:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 1000 @ 6108.3
[2017-01-24 02:00:33] BitMEX_Sam : Hey, Apocalyptic, thanks for the bug report earlier re: fill notifications on amended orders
[2017-01-24 02:00:38] BitMEX_Sam : We've fixed that.
[2017-01-24 02:00:56] airitout : i have an exam tomorrow, i can't have this right now
[2017-01-24 02:01:08] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: Good to hear :)
[2017-01-24 02:01:12] Apocalyptic : np
[2017-01-24 02:01:21] MikeHunt : airitout: lol, u have a choice, stay up and save your wallet, or go to bed and save your exam result
[2017-01-24 02:01:34] Tetsuo : airitout: don´t sleep now, it´s goin to get wild!
[2017-01-24 02:01:42] Sultan Pepper : You can't buy class
[2017-01-24 02:01:44] cz9emcu : this usually happens when im on vacation
[2017-01-24 02:01:44] Noobz : just do both
[2017-01-24 02:01:48] Noobz : yull be fine
[2017-01-24 02:01:54] Noobz : you'll*
[2017-01-24 02:02:00] MikeHunt : airitout: set an alarm using an app or bitcoinwisdom then go bed
[2017-01-24 02:02:04] rowrow : it usually happens when i'm either asleep or too tired to make good decisions
[2017-01-24 02:02:32] airitout : MikeHunt: ye, ill probably do that.
[2017-01-24 02:02:52] MikeHunt : airitout: what exam is it for?
[2017-01-24 02:02:57] Tetsuo : exams are overrated aynways
[2017-01-24 02:03:50] airitout : MikeHunt: statistics
[2017-01-24 02:03:56] rowrow : go 100x on bitcoin, keep going 100x on profits until you're either rich or broke - that way you either get rich or you can stop watching the market and go study, win win
[2017-01-24 02:05:19] MikeHunt : airitout: i sucked balls at that, hope u do better than i did
[2017-01-24 02:06:23] rapidtrades : im stayin up for this shitshow
[2017-01-24 02:06:30] jedisatoshi : Everyone is way too bearish... This will be above 920 soon
[2017-01-24 02:06:38] cryptwrecked : +100 row row, well advised
[2017-01-24 02:07:06] MikeHunt : jedisatoshi: 4am UTC = shit show starts
[2017-01-24 02:07:09] rapidtrades : jedisatoshi: the force is NOT with you
[2017-01-24 02:07:37] Sheriff : rowrow: This guy gets it
[2017-01-24 02:07:39] jedisatoshi : rapidtrades: lol too many people on the same side of the boat.. go ahead and short
[2017-01-24 02:07:41] Apocalyptic : jedisatoshi: this is not ES, no 90% algo trading trapping noobs
[2017-01-24 02:07:51] airitout : i wish abbey was here now.. i told him this will happen today
[2017-01-24 02:08:09] Noobz : he was here a while back
[2017-01-24 02:08:17] Noobz : enjoying the rollercoaster
[2017-01-24 02:08:31] rapidtrades : dont worry abbey is here in spirit
[2017-01-24 02:08:39] rapidtrades : cos he ded nao
[2017-01-24 02:08:41] rapidtrades : he ded
[2017-01-24 02:08:45] rapidtrades : u all ded
[2017-01-24 02:08:53] rapidtrades : all bullz ded
[2017-01-24 02:08:57] airitout : i am shorting bro
[2017-01-24 02:09:03] airitout : nothing dead about me
[2017-01-24 02:09:07] Noobz : we all rapidfade
[2017-01-24 02:09:42] ixess : im annoyed trade price is too far below index to do 100x
[2017-01-24 02:10:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 4500 @ 6080.7
[2017-01-24 02:10:50] yungyang : Wi tu lo
[2017-01-24 02:12:08] narnarfromnarnia : i think it did some good rekts but it could dip again but then back up it's fine
[2017-01-24 02:12:16] narnarfromnarnia : just have safe liq prices and hold on tight
[2017-01-24 02:13:52] ixess : if i want more than 50x, but 100x wont let me trade, how can i get 75x?
[2017-01-24 02:14:05] MikeHunt : im glad i warned everyone
[2017-01-24 02:14:08] MikeHunt : i feel like noah
[2017-01-24 02:14:18] Apocalyptic : ixess: there is an icon on the right of the slider
[2017-01-24 02:14:30] Apocalyptic : you can input the desired leverage manually
[2017-01-24 02:14:43] ixess : Apocalyptic: wow, didnt realize that, thanks
[2017-01-24 02:14:49] Apocalyptic : ixess: np
[2017-01-24 02:15:06] Apocalyptic : it's a new feature
[2017-01-24 02:15:16] Apocalyptic : they pushed it a week ago or something
[2017-01-24 02:17:05] datboiyuan : mike I swear you said $400 a couple days ago
[2017-01-24 02:17:05] MikeHunt : ixess: do 50x then use edit box next to bar to manually do it?
[2017-01-24 02:17:10] datboiyuan : you a buster
[2017-01-24 02:17:15] MikeHunt : datboiyuan: ?
[2017-01-24 02:17:44] yungyang : datboiyuan: ^
[2017-01-24 02:17:59] rapidtrades : bitcorns u better move
[2017-01-24 02:18:03] MikeHunt : datboiyuan: i did paint a nice $400 chart if thats what u mean
[2017-01-24 02:18:04] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/WKn9a3o.png
[2017-01-24 02:18:13] rapidtrades : im not eating cereal at 3am to watch this
[2017-01-24 02:18:34] rapidtrades : ill be up all night peeing this crap
[2017-01-24 02:18:37] MikeHunt : oh yeh if this breaks 5k support, it gets even more bad
[2017-01-24 02:19:09] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: 40 minutes to go
[2017-01-24 02:19:19] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: 1hr 40m ?
[2017-01-24 02:19:26] MikeHunt : 12pm china = 4am UTC
[2017-01-24 02:19:36] Noobz : yup
[2017-01-24 02:19:42] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: right
[2017-01-24 02:19:46] Apocalyptic : forgot I'm not UTC
[2017-01-24 02:20:03] MikeHunt : yeh u dont wanna be 1hr off ;)
[2017-01-24 02:20:30] Noobz : one hour too soon is better then one hour too late
[2017-01-24 02:21:54] jedisatoshi : anyone heard from Nog lately?? dont really like that guy but its not like him to not be screaming in here right now..
[2017-01-24 02:22:13] rapidtrades : he ded
[2017-01-24 02:22:23] rapidtrades : he 'nogged' out
[2017-01-24 02:23:15] ixess : im trying to add to my position by a small amount but it won't let me because it is miscalculating my new liquidation price, any way around this?
[2017-01-24 02:24:03] MikeHunt : ixess: check the cost vs available balance
[2017-01-24 02:25:25] cryptwrecked : can anyone explain to me why the current price is below my entry price (I'm short) yet, my unrealised p&l is negative. don't understand it
[2017-01-24 02:25:46] ixess : cryptwrecked: it is based on mark
[2017-01-24 02:26:42] MikeHunt : cryptwrecked: includes fee iirc
[2017-01-24 02:26:50] rapidtrades : i hear smone got banned earlier?
[2017-01-24 02:26:57] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: nog?
[2017-01-24 02:27:02] Tetsuo : Hey China" Your chaos days are numbered" it´s over man. BTC will soon belong to "the people" again
[2017-01-24 02:27:05] Tetsuo : https://youtu.be/WPcIRGwWeyA?t=45s
[2017-01-24 02:27:07] ixess : fee is in realised pnl
[2017-01-24 02:27:37] cryptwrecked : mark price is higher than my entry
[2017-01-24 02:27:47] Rado : hey rapidtrades
[2017-01-24 02:29:10] airitout : Tetsuo: thx, really something i want to hear @ 3:30 -_-
[2017-01-24 02:29:32] Tetsuo : airitout: you´re welcome
[2017-01-24 02:30:07] Tetsuo : no one should be asleep in times like these
[2017-01-24 02:30:25] MikeHunt : when the clock strikes 4am, put this on.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izK5MdjbWkk
[2017-01-24 02:30:44] Tetsuo : times they are a changin
[2017-01-24 02:31:37] airitout : what happens @ 4?
[2017-01-24 02:31:49] MikeHunt : airitout: china fees come back
[2017-01-24 02:31:54] Tetsuo : to da moon
[2017-01-24 02:32:04] Tetsuo : u all have been fooled
[2017-01-24 02:32:10] Tetsuo : fools is what u are
[2017-01-24 02:32:16] Tetsuo : especially rapid
[2017-01-24 02:32:18] abbey : weeeee
[2017-01-24 02:32:33] airitout : ah abbey, you are here
[2017-01-24 02:32:46] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: someone has to stay long to pay for our shorts ;)
[2017-01-24 02:33:15] Tetsuo : shorts are negative u fooll
[2017-01-24 02:33:29] abbey : airitout: here i am, rock u like a hurricane
[2017-01-24 02:33:31] Tetsuo : means u pay fees to get rekt
[2017-01-24 02:33:53] Battlebots : Good evening Rado
[2017-01-24 02:34:27] abbey : for those about to rock, i salute you
[2017-01-24 02:34:36] rowrow : we broke 6300, maybe we'll survive the night
[2017-01-24 02:35:04] Rado : Battlebots: hey
[2017-01-24 02:35:42] narnarfromnarnia : we're goin up
[2017-01-24 02:35:51] aethlios : I am expecting -85% in volume in china with fees.
[2017-01-24 02:36:21] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: i bet
[2017-01-24 02:36:24] rowrow : i'm curious if it will increase spreads elsewhere if arbitrage is more expensive
[2017-01-24 02:36:42] narnarfromnarnia : i just want out at 905 with my position and im happy until next big move
[2017-01-24 02:36:47] narnarfromnarnia : will be good
[2017-01-24 02:36:58] aethlios : they show now 200 mill each, will go down to 30.
[2017-01-24 02:37:12] Rado : aethlios: you mean 200k
[2017-01-24 02:37:21] narnarfromnarnia : but those positions could be shorts that have to close
[2017-01-24 02:37:40] aethlios : Rado: http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/all/
[2017-01-24 02:37:59] airitout : Rado: he is talking about volume
[2017-01-24 02:38:05] MikeHunt : basing the previous ascending triangle failure vs this one, it could be anywhere down to $120 p/btc
[2017-01-24 02:38:44] MikeHunt : thats just going by scale
[2017-01-24 02:39:07] Rado : airitout: that's not volume
[2017-01-24 02:39:10] Rado : that's dollars
[2017-01-24 02:39:30] aethlios : Rado: volume in usd
[2017-01-24 02:39:41] airitout : RT aesthlios
[2017-01-24 02:39:54] Rado : volume is measured in BTC
[2017-01-24 02:39:56] Rado : not USD
[2017-01-24 02:40:04] Rado : 200k BTC traded
[2017-01-24 02:40:45] Rado : volume is always measured in the underling
[2017-01-24 02:40:47] Rado : which is BTC
[2017-01-24 02:40:53] Rado : they are not trading USD
[2017-01-24 02:41:16] Rado : look at https://tradeblock.com/markets/
[2017-01-24 02:41:42] BitMEX_Sam : We're going to see very soon how that goes
[2017-01-24 02:42:00] BitMEX_Sam : Also, ಠ_ಠ for us being listed as an exchange without fees
[2017-01-24 02:42:02] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: what time do they start?
[2017-01-24 02:42:09] Rado : I forgot what I posted in the morning
[2017-01-24 02:42:11] BitMEX_Sam : 12 CST/4 UTC
[2017-01-24 02:42:12] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-24 02:42:16] Rado : thanks
[2017-01-24 02:42:32] BitMEX_Sam : IMO https://exchangewar.info/ is an easier list to read
[2017-01-24 02:43:00] MikeHunt : bitmex is blocked in china so maybe not too much of a difference
[2017-01-24 02:43:21] Rado : MikeHunt: it's not about BitMEX
[2017-01-24 02:43:37] Rado : BitMEX follows what's happening on the BTC exchanges
[2017-01-24 02:43:43] rapidtrades : OMG BITMEX BLOCKED IN CHINA? SELL SELL SELL
[2017-01-24 02:44:01] airitout : lol
[2017-01-24 02:44:10] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I like https://exchangewar.info/
[2017-01-24 02:44:23] jedisatoshi : VPN lol
[2017-01-24 02:44:27] Rado : slaps rapidtrades with a large trout
[2017-01-24 02:44:41] rapidtrades : will these restrictions from China never end? guess not
[2017-01-24 02:44:55] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: wut
[2017-01-24 02:45:01] Rado : rapidtrades: they will also have no effect on BTC in teh long term
[2017-01-24 02:45:01] narnarfromnarnia : really or not?
[2017-01-24 02:45:03] rapidtrades : what exchange will be BLOCKED next?
[2017-01-24 02:45:51] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: BitMEX might jump to #1 on that list
[2017-01-24 02:45:52] Rado : ;-)
[2017-01-24 02:46:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: when china regime collapses?
[2017-01-24 02:46:53] airitout : Why is Rado flirting with Sam?
[2017-01-24 02:49:08] Avalanche : such a large discount on price, is MM alive ?
[2017-01-24 02:51:15] airitout : implementation of trading fee is @ 12:00 (UTC + 8)
[2017-01-24 02:51:26] narnarfromnarnia : how long?
[2017-01-24 02:51:26] airitout : * 8
[2017-01-24 02:51:33] airitout : 1 hour and 10 min
[2017-01-24 02:51:43] narnarfromnarnia : ok so big pump and dump coming
[2017-01-24 02:51:57] narnarfromnarnia : price moves will have to be more worth the fee and lower leverage
[2017-01-24 02:52:02] narnarfromnarnia : and lot of shorts needs to close :)
[2017-01-24 02:52:56] MikeHunt : i might just go bed for bit and wake up at 3:59
[2017-01-24 02:53:17] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Thank you very much for increasing the discount for bulk orders! Now I can stuff the orderbook with 100 of them ;-)
[2017-01-24 02:54:10] Tetsuo : micmix: u should better do somethin useful and bring back h17 to 50$ premium
[2017-01-24 02:55:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 2028 @ 6179.6
[2017-01-24 02:55:32] rowrow : what's this about a discount for bulk orders?
[2017-01-24 02:56:39] micmix : Tetsuo: I'm waiting to buy more with 50% annualized discount
[2017-01-24 02:57:04] airitout : REKT: how are you able to see if contract got liquidated?
[2017-01-24 02:57:11] Tetsuo : he smart
[2017-01-24 02:57:59] rowrow : airitout: the red ones on the order book are liquidations, i'd guess there's some indicator in the API as well but I don't know that for certain
[2017-01-24 02:58:44] rapidtrades : i can't believe i ate ton of cereal for this CRAP
[2017-01-24 02:58:57] rapidtrades : what kind of jewcoin just keeps going on
[2017-01-24 02:59:05] MikeHunt : its not time yet
[2017-01-24 02:59:32] airitout : rapidtrades: 1hour left
[2017-01-24 02:59:34] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: :BTC: :BTC: :BTC: :BTC: :soon: moooooon
[2017-01-24 02:59:36] rowrow : you think the second it switches over it's just gonna instacrash? not saying that's impossible, but there's no reason for that to happen other than market irrationality
[2017-01-24 03:00:01] MikeHunt : rowrow: we loose support at 4am imo
[2017-01-24 03:00:09] MikeHunt : bots will no longer be able to hold the market up
[2017-01-24 03:00:38] MikeHunt : i expect them to trade right up until 4am
[2017-01-24 03:00:49] MikeHunt : epic crash
[2017-01-24 03:00:55] MikeHunt : pboc then steps in to regulate
[2017-01-24 03:01:00] MikeHunt : as they'll have "excuse"
[2017-01-24 03:01:14] rowrow : most bots are market maker/arbitrage bots, they don't hold up the price
[2017-01-24 03:01:32] Rado : I think BTC will go up
[2017-01-24 03:01:34] MikeHunt : rowrow: figuritively speaking
[2017-01-24 03:01:45] MikeHunt : Rado: last time this happened btc dropped $400+
[2017-01-24 03:01:54] Tetsuo : Rado: +10 FTW :BTC: chooo chooo
[2017-01-24 03:02:09] Rado : MikeHunt: last time when what happened?
[2017-01-24 03:02:11] rowrow : MikeHunt: fair enough, guess we just disagree - a crash wouldn't surprise me certainly, i think we're in for volatility either way
[2017-01-24 03:02:12] rapidtrades : Mike u never had critical thinking skills
[2017-01-24 03:02:15] Tetsuo : he´s just a fool
[2017-01-24 03:02:34] Rado : when you have fees you will see people buy and hold
[2017-01-24 03:02:43] Tetsuo : HODL FOR LIFE BROS
[2017-01-24 03:02:47] MikeHunt : Rado: back in 2013, they reintroduced fees after having 0%, it tanked the market
[2017-01-24 03:03:00] Tetsuo : yeah sure , that was the reason
[2017-01-24 03:03:15] cryptwrecked : any excuse to tank it tho
[2017-01-24 03:03:37] airitout : lol tetsuo you're longing quite hard, aren't you :)
[2017-01-24 03:03:48] Tetsuo : yes :-)
[2017-01-24 03:04:02] Rado : China is already $15 premium
[2017-01-24 03:04:11] rowrow : market movement in the next 24 hours is going to be based on how people think the changes will affect the price rather than how they actually affect the price (which will have its own impact over time, but you'll never be able to isolate it)
[2017-01-24 03:04:18] MikeHunt : if im wrong, i loose nothing, i rejoin the run, if im right, i make a tonne
[2017-01-24 03:05:12] rowrow : not saying you're wrong, but if a lot of people thought in that exact way it would imply a huge bull run
[2017-01-24 03:05:41] Noobz : either way is good to me
[2017-01-24 03:05:42] Tetsuo : MikeHunt: u wouldn´t recognize your own dick if it slaps you right in your face
[2017-01-24 03:06:03] airitout : watch the one tetsuo
[2017-01-24 03:06:08] airitout : *tone
[2017-01-24 03:06:35] rowrow : i'm more scared of the premium than the actual market movement
[2017-01-24 03:07:25] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: well having never seen it that close before...
[2017-01-24 03:08:27] MikeHunt : i looked back at 2013 stats, it did trace fully afterwards
[2017-01-24 03:08:29] Apocalyptic : okc pumpin
[2017-01-24 03:08:51] MikeHunt : but the drop would put it bellow the 5k support line
[2017-01-24 03:10:04] abbey : the bull is strong
[2017-01-24 03:10:20] rowrow : wonder if someone wanted to manipulate the market, if they'd do it while there are no fees or do it after to make it look more legitimate
[2017-01-24 03:10:39] Yuppie : Still 15$ diacount on the future
[2017-01-24 03:11:00] carl : Can anyone explain why the mark price is so much higher than the last price?
[2017-01-24 03:11:21] abbey : REKTs incoming
[2017-01-24 03:11:29] Rado : Yuppie: $15 discount is great
[2017-01-24 03:11:29] Yuppie : When we had the last China Premium Futute was trading 50$+ premium
[2017-01-24 03:12:25] rowrow : Yuppie: long is, by default, usually a higher premium than short, but yeah there were some crazy premiums on long before
[2017-01-24 03:12:42] Yuppie : Rado: I know just stops in this market are super dangerous
[2017-01-24 03:12:47] Tetsuo : H17 was quite some fun from 800 to 1300 to 700 all within 5 weeks, not bad
[2017-01-24 03:13:28] Rado : Tetsuo: I was short at 1250, but got stopped out at 1260
[2017-01-24 03:13:32] Rado : very tight stop
[2017-01-24 03:13:35] Tetsuo : Damn
[2017-01-24 03:13:37] rowrow : that is pretty impressive compared to how slow bitcoin had been moving for a while
[2017-01-24 03:13:55] Rado : thinking in retrospective I did not need to have that tight of a stop
[2017-01-24 03:14:13] Yuppie : rowrow: show me any market in finacial instrument where the borrower gets paid ? (Ok, govies dont count)