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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-01-23 15:21:55] jung1 : #goodadvise [2017-01-23 15:22:07] jung1 : and you have gemini [2017-01-23 15:22:39] jung1 : technology is always two steps ahead of law [2017-01-23 15:23:22] jung1 : stuff like bitcoin investment trust, gemini , iconomy will be big players in near future [2017-01-23 15:23:26] jung1 : and bitmex as well [2017-01-23 15:24:14] jung1 : money from okcoin and huobi could come here [2017-01-23 15:26:07] Papou : Yes guys, have no fear. Millions upon millions are coming and will pump you to riches [2017-01-23 15:26:27] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-01-23 15:26:29] cryptokeeper : tipping canoe. [2017-01-23 15:26:35] Papou : they are coming as fast as they can [2017-01-23 15:26:38] Papou : keep buying [2017-01-23 15:26:43] laisee : thank god, its been a long wait since Dec 2013 [2017-01-23 15:26:50] cryptokeeper : time to pinch the longers now. [2017-01-23 15:26:57] Papou : was traffic laisee [2017-01-23 15:27:00] cryptokeeper : at resistance. [2017-01-23 15:27:05] Papou : moneh is coming [2017-01-23 15:27:14] KyllingLolsson : Whats happening? News? [2017-01-23 15:27:31] Papou : wall street feels bad they said and they said they are buying all BTC 1000+ [2017-01-23 15:27:36] Papou : Give moneh back to the ppl [2017-01-23 15:27:39] ayy_lmao : KyllingLolsson: just bitcoin being bitcoin [2017-01-23 15:28:12] laisee : wall st is making the people rych again, 1 satoshi at a time [2017-01-23 15:28:24] KyllingLolsson : Ayy [2017-01-23 15:29:03] cryptokeeper : RIP longers from 325-328?????? [2017-01-23 15:29:09] laisee : think of all the goldman sachs guys working for nothing in Trumps Govt [2017-01-23 15:29:21] cryptokeeper : 925-928 even [2017-01-23 15:30:43] KyllingLolsson : Why that dip?? [2017-01-23 15:31:41] cryptokeeper : rekt'ing the longers [2017-01-23 15:31:46] cryptokeeper : support re-test [2017-01-23 15:31:55] jung1 : now best trategy is to buy everything under $1000 on XBTH17 on x5 and just wait [2017-01-23 15:34:44] MikeHunt : jung1: wait until 4am wen u get rekt? [2017-01-23 15:35:23] bingbongfly : Is bitmex chinese? [2017-01-23 15:35:26] bingbongfly : or hongkong? [2017-01-23 15:35:30] jung1 : what GMT time? [2017-01-23 15:35:36] MikeHunt : jung1: UTC/GMT [2017-01-23 15:35:55] jung1 : bingbongfly: they have office there. They drink sake and eat sushi [2017-01-23 15:36:03] MikeHunt : jung1: i'd avoid taking any hard position until the china fees thing is over with, or u might get stung either way [2017-01-23 15:36:07] thedoc : xbth17 complete retrace. fomo longers rekt [2017-01-23 15:36:22] jung1 : MikeHunt: ytue [2017-01-23 15:36:29] MikeHunt : ? [2017-01-23 15:36:41] Apocalyptic : thedoc: funny thing is [2017-01-23 15:36:47] Apocalyptic : no rekt here so far [2017-01-23 15:37:03] Apocalyptic : it's like everybody is responsible with leverage or something [2017-01-23 15:37:06] thedoc : yeah would have had to long on 50x the very top [2017-01-23 15:37:14] thedoc : or higher to get rekt by now [2017-01-23 15:37:45] jung1 : Apocalyptic: we are learning on someone else mistakes couse its cheaper [2017-01-23 15:37:57] Apocalyptic : :) [2017-01-23 15:38:18] jung1 : or everyone is broke now [2017-01-23 15:38:24] jung1 : hehe [2017-01-23 15:38:34] Rado : jung1: what's up man [2017-01-23 15:38:40] charlyko : longs to get rekt in 3..2..1.. [2017-01-23 15:38:42] Apocalyptic : Rado: hey [2017-01-23 15:38:55] Apocalyptic : are you running your bots in this madness ? [2017-01-23 15:39:02] laisee : jung1: we are waiting for this weeks steem tokens [2017-01-23 15:39:19] Apocalyptic : lol [2017-01-23 15:39:21] Rado : Apocalyptic: this is the best time for bots :-) [2017-01-23 15:39:22] Apocalyptic : poor nog [2017-01-23 15:39:26] KyllingLolsson : Dont understand wtf happening [2017-01-23 15:39:51] ayy_lmao : KyllingLolsson: y are u trading then? [2017-01-23 15:39:55] jung1 : Rado: hey. cool. Keep trading and traveling. You still run eth bot? on bitmex also? [2017-01-23 15:40:09] Noobz : ayy_lmao: lmao [2017-01-23 15:40:15] Rado : jung1: not running ETH bot right now [2017-01-23 15:40:19] Rado : but will get back to that [2017-01-23 15:40:28] Rado : I haven't started my travel yet [2017-01-23 15:40:32] Rado : Leaving on Feb 9 [2017-01-23 15:40:52] jung1 : where you gonna go? [2017-01-23 15:41:58] KyllingLolsson : ayy_lmao: why? [2017-01-23 15:42:17] thedoc : dang xbth17 market maker pushing price down a bunch [2017-01-23 15:42:20] KyllingLolsson : To make a living trading [2017-01-23 15:42:30] thedoc : $5 premium to negative $5 premium [2017-01-23 15:42:45] Rado : Hawaii, Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Singapore, Bali, Dubai, Sri Lanka, Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, France, Spain Portugal [2017-01-23 15:43:14] ayy_lmao : KyllingLolsson: what time frame you on? the lower ones will confuse you [2017-01-23 15:44:07] Rado : ayy_lmao: BTC is in a range - all timeframes will confuse you [2017-01-23 15:44:10] jung1 : Rado: awesome! I live in luxembourf now so if you will be somewhere aroud let me know [2017-01-23 15:44:24] Rado : jung1: sure [2017-01-23 15:44:26] jung1 : *luxembourg [2017-01-23 15:44:42] Rado : closes I will be in Paris [2017-01-23 15:44:56] jung1 : yeah its like 3h [2017-01-23 15:46:59] KyllingLolsson : ayy_lmao: 1h [2017-01-23 15:47:30] KyllingLolsson : 30 min for entry point [2017-01-23 15:48:06] jung1 : http://bitcoinagile.com/ ultimate bitcoin info site [2017-01-23 15:48:25] FreeBitcoins : Rado: When AU and Bali? [2017-01-23 15:48:38] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [2017-01-23 15:48:49] rustiv : jung1: nice website [2017-01-23 15:49:01] Rado : Australia end of February, Bali in May [2017-01-23 15:49:28] FreeBitcoins : Rado: Thats really cool. Where in the AU you going? [2017-01-23 15:49:37] jung1 : full bitcoin trip or with obsolete fioat money as well? [2017-01-23 15:49:43] jung1 : fiat [2017-01-23 15:49:57] Rado : just Sidney [2017-01-23 15:50:04] Rado : not staying there a lot [2017-01-23 15:50:11] Rado : but will be for a month in Bali [2017-01-23 15:50:31] Rado : jung1: it's a mix of fiat and bitcoin [2017-01-23 15:50:46] Rado : I have a way to convert quickly and get cash from an ATM [2017-01-23 15:50:46] FreeBitcoins : Rado: Want to hangout in Bali? [2017-01-23 15:50:57] Rado : FreeBitcoins: sure [2017-01-23 15:51:26] jung1 : bitmex connecting people [2017-01-23 15:51:29] FreeBitcoins : Rado: What sort of person are you lol? What will you do in Bali? [2017-01-23 15:51:48] jung1 : drinking beer and living life dude [2017-01-23 15:51:58] Rado : he he [2017-01-23 15:52:19] Rado : I am not in my 20s if that is what you are asking [2017-01-23 15:52:26] Rado : have a wife and 8 year old [2017-01-23 15:52:51] FreeBitcoins : Rado: they travelling too or solo? [2017-01-23 15:53:06] Rado : everyone [2017-01-23 15:53:39] Rado : we are trying out Digital Nomad, World schooling concepts [2017-01-23 15:54:09] FreeBitcoins : Rado: thats so cool, few places in bali that accept coin [2017-01-23 15:54:23] Rado : that's fine [2017-01-23 15:54:32] FreeBitcoins : Rado: are you full time trader or business? [2017-01-23 15:54:45] Rado : getting there :-) [2017-01-23 15:55:03] Rado : just resigned from my 6 figure job [2017-01-23 15:55:25] FreeBitcoins : congratulations [2017-01-23 15:55:25] MikeHunt : Rado: finance? [2017-01-23 15:55:36] jung1 : thats so cool with trading that you can work from every place around the world where internet is [2017-01-23 15:55:42] Rado : Software development [2017-01-23 15:56:15] 24hourz : what stack ? [2017-01-23 15:56:21] laisee : coders are travellers, these days [2017-01-23 15:56:33] Rado : jung1: when we get accommodation the fist thing that is required is high speed WiFi [2017-01-23 15:56:37] jung1 : basicly all of freelancers are [2017-01-23 15:57:21] jung1 : and if you have any of IT skill and you are quite good you will find job everywhere [2017-01-23 15:57:25] Rado : 24hourz: I've been at a Director position for a few years, but mostly Java, ColdFusion, Node [2017-01-23 15:57:38] jung1 : english and some skills from udemy and you dont have to worry [2017-01-23 15:57:45] Rado : jung1: true [2017-01-23 15:57:59] Rado : I actually want to work on a blockchain website for micro jobs [2017-01-23 15:58:15] Rado : where you don't need to get hired in the traditional way [2017-01-23 15:58:30] 24hourz : you still get a lot of cf projects ? I know there is a lot of legacy stuff built in it [2017-01-23 15:58:38] Rado : just get paid for a small tasks [2017-01-23 15:58:46] laisee : bits4bits.com [2017-01-23 15:59:01] Rado : 24hourz: there is still a lot of CF work [2017-01-23 15:59:34] jung1 : laisee: not working [2017-01-23 15:59:35] Rado : we now use ColdBox framework and CF is now neck and neck with all OOP languages [2017-01-23 15:59:42] Rado : laisee: thanks, will check it out [2017-01-23 16:00:15] laisee : jung1: its yours if u want it ... I guessed the name ;-) [2017-01-23 16:00:17] VenCap : $2 above bitstamp wtf [2017-01-23 16:00:21] VenCap : here [2017-01-23 16:00:24] VenCap : crazy days [2017-01-23 16:00:29] VenCap : shorters getting REKT? [2017-01-23 16:00:45] BitMEX_Sam : Tons of freelance work out there, it's easy to live abroad now for many. [2017-01-23 16:00:51] BitMEX_Sam : Couldn't be a better time to try it. [2017-01-23 16:01:43] 24hourz : How is the internet when you travel though [2017-01-23 16:01:46] laisee : yeah, was surprised how many roles there are && how many digital nomads u meet once u hand out in coffee shops [2017-01-23 16:01:49] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: make some bitmex shares offering so we do not have to work [2017-01-23 16:01:52] Rado : I think the whole industry will change in the next few years [2017-01-23 16:01:54] 24hourz : could not afford to not have steady internet everywhere [2017-01-23 16:01:58] VenCap : China bans banning bitcoin :P [2017-01-23 16:02:02] VenCap : mooon time [2017-01-23 16:02:11] sleger : 24hourz: I heard it's pretty bad in planes and submarines [2017-01-23 16:02:24] Rado : http://globallife365.com/remote-work/ [2017-01-23 16:02:47] jung1 : google want to make free internet with thousands of small satelitte [2017-01-23 16:02:53] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Now, why would we do that? :) [2017-01-23 16:03:20] Rado : jung1: that's the globalists agenda [2017-01-23 16:03:29] laisee : 24hourz: depends on locale. Vietnam is pretty good. Philippines is quite slow. Singapore, HK excellent. [2017-01-23 16:03:48] Rado : XBTH17 - $5 discount [2017-01-23 16:04:06] jung1 : #MONEYMAKER . But yeah now you do not need that but I am sure that you would interest some big investors [2017-01-23 16:04:48] jung1 : only way to be kind of shareholder is to work on affiliate program [2017-01-23 16:04:52] Rado : jung1: they don't need capital [2017-01-23 16:04:58] Rado : they are already profitable [2017-01-23 16:05:01] BitMEX_Sam : Even better than getting a good raise is not needing the raise at all. [2017-01-23 16:05:22] Rado : They will need some when I go work for them ;-) [2017-01-23 16:05:56] jung1 : Rado: know that. Just want to have bitmex in my portfolio. IMO it could be kind of goldman sahs for blockchain in future [2017-01-23 16:06:15] Rado : that will be nice [2017-01-23 16:06:16] jung1 : happy to be here quite long [2017-01-23 16:06:55] Apocalyptic : jung1: GS is not an exchange [2017-01-23 16:07:13] Rado : Apocalyptic: sure they are [2017-01-23 16:07:24] Rado : they exchanges peoples money [2017-01-23 16:07:35] Rado : get the investors money [2017-01-23 16:07:37] Rado : lol [2017-01-23 16:07:49] jung1 : +1 [2017-01-23 16:07:52] Apocalyptic : Rado: they don't provide the infrastructure for it :) [2017-01-23 16:08:16] Apocalyptic : as for getting money, yes they do [2017-01-23 16:08:40] jung1 : I will be not suprised if bitmex would be kind of trendsetters of bitcoin price and all ecosystem will follow us [2017-01-23 16:09:02] ayy_lmao : only if they offer spot [2017-01-23 16:09:03] Derreck : Rado: America First! [2017-01-23 16:09:45] jung1 : shit. Just checked and I am here since 05.2014 [2017-01-23 16:10:24] Rado : We’ve just issued an FAQ about BTCChina Exchange’s implementation of fee-based trading: https://bt.cc/0124faq . [2017-01-23 16:11:36] Rado : BTCChina will implement fee-based trading at 12:00 p.m. (noon) on January 24th, 2017. [2017-01-23 16:11:44] Rado : that's pretty soon [2017-01-23 16:13:18] BitMEX_Sam : That's very soon. [2017-01-23 16:13:18] jung1 : like 24h from now [2017-01-23 16:13:34] BitMEX_Greg : less [2017-01-23 16:13:38] jung1 : https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/china/beijing [2017-01-23 16:13:43] BitMEX_Sam : That's in 12hrs. [2017-01-23 16:14:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 13 @ 6306.4 [2017-01-23 16:14:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15000 @ 911.67 [2017-01-23 16:15:20] jung1 : hello REKT , my old friend [2017-01-23 16:15:25] Rado : this is actually very good for BTC and for the exchange as well [2017-01-23 16:15:41] Rado : they will make money, BTC will not have to worry about fake volumes and manipulation [2017-01-23 16:15:43] jung1 : yeah [2017-01-23 16:15:50] jung1 : we will see what is actuall bitcoin volume [2017-01-23 16:16:01] Rado : finally [2017-01-23 16:16:09] jung1 : but was fun with them as well [2017-01-23 16:16:17] Rado : "fun" [2017-01-23 16:16:21] jung1 : hehe [2017-01-23 16:16:56] jung1 : you think that there will be some new free of charge exchange? [2017-01-23 16:17:11] jung1 : its aweseome for manipulation [2017-01-23 16:17:33] jung1 : if you will run some good bots you do not need any fees [2017-01-23 16:24:13] Rado : https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/823566676545433600 [2017-01-23 16:25:32] Rado : BTCC volume with fake bots - 3 mill [2017-01-23 16:25:41] jung1 : haha [2017-01-23 16:25:42] Rado : BTCC volume without fake bots - 300k [2017-01-23 16:25:49] Rado : BTC volume with fees - ? [2017-01-23 16:26:05] Rado : 30k maybe [2017-01-23 16:26:23] Rado : that will be comparable to Bitfinex [2017-01-23 16:26:48] Rado : 3x Bitfinex volume [2017-01-23 16:26:55] BitMEX_Sam : Rado: That's just a data error [2017-01-23 16:27:02] BitMEX_Sam : Cryptowatch does that now & then [2017-01-23 16:27:10] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I was wondering about that [2017-01-23 16:27:17] BitMEX_Sam : Thus the flatlining price as well [2017-01-23 16:27:23] BitMEX_Sam : https://cryptowat.ch/huobi/btccny seems fine [2017-01-23 16:27:36] Rado : yep [2017-01-23 16:27:46] Rado : tradeblock is fine as well [2017-01-23 16:27:51] -_- : I don't even think Bitcoinwisdom is being maintained [2017-01-23 16:28:31] jung1 : so which currency will be now most important in bitcoin? $? [2017-01-23 16:29:12] Rado : it's always been the USD if you ask me [2017-01-23 16:29:57] Rado : While BTC is in this tight range I am trading EURUSD and GBPUSD [2017-01-23 16:30:19] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: hey [2017-01-23 16:30:57] BitMEX_Sam : Hey [2017-01-23 16:31:17] Rado : Bitcoin Options coming looks like: [2017-01-23 16:31:19] Rado : http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-options-firm-ledgerx-crosses-key-launch-hurdle/ [2017-01-23 16:32:00] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: Can I get the "save as csv" button on the site export everything? [2017-01-23 16:32:29] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: At this time it does not, we plan to build out a more robust reporting feature in the future that will do so [2017-01-23 16:32:33] BitMEX_Sam : You can export it page by page from that screen [2017-01-23 16:32:39] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: I wanted to do that as well [2017-01-23 16:32:59] Rado : or at least a date range of all trades [2017-01-23 16:33:11] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah I understand the reasons why; we have DoS concerns so I am going to build out a separate reporting daemon in the future that will schedule and build these histories [2017-01-23 16:33:28] Rado : cool [2017-01-23 16:33:34] BitMEX_Sam : If you have a very large history it could hitch up the API servers for too long building the response. [2017-01-23 16:33:37] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: Reporting server will be nice [2017-01-23 16:33:59] Rado : I have worked on a whole reporting infrastructure [2017-01-23 16:34:11] BitMEX_Sam : In the meantime we also have https://github.com/BitMEX/easy-data-scripts which can help you with building your own history. [2017-01-23 16:34:30] BitMEX_Sam : By default it outputs to CSV so you can easily open it with Excel. [2017-01-23 16:34:37] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: how do you work on so many things at the same time? :-) [2017-01-23 16:34:43] BitMEX_Sam : Sleep is optional [2017-01-23 16:34:47] Rado : lol [2017-01-23 16:35:10] BitMEX_Sam : It's been a crazy few years; I have probably a dozen and a half BitMEX repos I work on and about half as many OSS ones [2017-01-23 16:35:40] BitMEX_Sam : My latest headache involves pleading with the Chrome team to not break the web in Chrome 56. [2017-01-23 16:35:48] BitMEX_Sam : If you're on beta Chrome you might notice BitMEX reconnecting when you switch tabs. [2017-01-23 16:35:54] Rado : Are you considering contracting for some none critical work? [2017-01-23 16:36:06] BitMEX_Sam : We have more help on the way already :) [2017-01-23 16:37:01] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: Can I meet with you sometime to see if I can be contributing in any way in the future [2017-01-23 16:37:14] BitMEX_Sam : Sure, send me an email - sam@bitmex [2017-01-23 16:37:20] Rado : cool [2017-01-23 16:37:42] Battlebots : Hey Sam, it's nog. Why was my support request ignored and why was I banned for "ban evading" when the ban was supposed to be only for 1 day? [2017-01-23 16:38:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7500 @ 917.21 [2017-01-23 16:41:54] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: probably a dumb question. I'll ask anyways: hiw can i reset my risk limit? :) [2017-01-23 16:42:09] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Just click the editor and move it back down. [2017-01-23 16:42:09] wurstgelee : *how [2017-01-23 16:42:25] wurstgelee : didnt wirk last time i checked [2017-01-23 16:42:27] wurstgelee : Sev [2017-01-23 16:42:30] wurstgelee : Sec [2017-01-23 16:42:38] BitMEX_Greg : wurstgelee: under the leverage slider [2017-01-23 16:42:45] BitMEX_Sam : Battlebots: We reserve the right to continue bans as long as we see fit; a mod's statement that you are gone for 24 hours is not binding [2017-01-23 16:42:47] BitMEX_Greg : where the pencil edit button is [2017-01-23 16:43:03] BitMEX_Sam : Your support requests were not ignored, and in fact we sent you a few emails explaining our next steps [2017-01-23 16:44:02] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: is 200 btc the lowest level? [2017-01-23 16:44:35] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: Yes [2017-01-23 16:44:41] wurstgelee : Oh k :) [2017-01-23 16:44:47] wurstgelee : nvm then [2017-01-23 16:44:49] wurstgelee : ;) [2017-01-23 16:53:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 600 @ 911.49 [2017-01-23 16:53:01] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen! [2017-01-23 16:53:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 19936 @ 910.14 [2017-01-23 16:53:16] bingbongfly : pls staph [2017-01-23 16:57:36] Battlebots : Ok Sam I got the emails, thanks for the reply. I will miss trading here.. Hopefully with Trump as President now we can stop the Racism and Make Bitmex Great Again! God bless you all. I love you. [2017-01-23 17:04:06] Derreck : Trump formally withdrew USA from TPP [2017-01-23 17:05:07] Sultan Pepper : Where's the dump, bears?! [2017-01-23 17:15:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1300 @ 921.71 [2017-01-23 17:15:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 282 @ 0.001492 [2017-01-23 17:18:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 44 @ 923.40 [2017-01-23 17:18:21] abbey : nomnomnom [2017-01-23 17:21:35] Rizky : how/why is March trading below spot...? [2017-01-23 17:22:21] sleger : cause nobody wants to buy it for more at the moment [2017-01-23 17:22:33] Rizky : concise. I like it [2017-01-23 17:28:10] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: why aren't US citizens allowed to trade at BitMEX? [2017-01-23 17:28:26] Rado : BTCDJS: because US regulation sucks [2017-01-23 17:28:38] Rado : land of the "free" [2017-01-23 17:29:03] BTCDJS : Free to do as we tell you [2017-01-23 17:30:07] Rado : Room77 bar & restaurant in Berlin has a raspberry pi that displays current #Bitcoin hashes/sec. [2017-01-23 17:30:11] Rado : geeky [2017-01-23 17:30:42] BTCDJS : Why would anyone want to know that? [2017-01-23 17:31:50] Sultan Pepper : Because it cost €10 to set up and says "we like bitcoin" [2017-01-23 17:32:09] BTCDJS : ETC is a disappointment [2017-01-23 17:33:35] Sultan Pepper : What % swing do you guys shoot for, for quick daytrades [2017-01-23 17:34:43] BTCDJS : 0.00001% [2017-01-23 17:35:05] Sultan Pepper : -_- [2017-01-23 17:35:17] Sultan Pepper : o_o [2017-01-23 17:35:44] BTCDJS : My mother always told me to to dream bigger tho [2017-01-23 17:36:10] Sultan Pepper : Seriously though, what covers fees and gets any kind of tiny profit? [2017-01-23 17:36:21] BTCDJS : When I become rich I'm going to buy a Prius [2017-01-23 17:36:36] Sultan Pepper : I'm new and trying to get my strat together [2017-01-23 17:38:43] sleger : Sultan Pepper: you can find the fees here so you can compute what's necessary to cover them [2017-01-23 17:39:10] BTCDJS : I don't day trade. I just do this for a bit extra cash in my spare time. Better off asking this young man ^^^^ [2017-01-23 17:40:02] BTCDJS : He's been trading for a whole week now. He's getting quite good at it [2017-01-23 17:40:58] sleger : its not because you showed up here a week ago that people havent been here longer... [2017-01-23 17:42:32] Sultan Pepper : Will 0.3% net profit? [2017-01-23 17:43:17] sleger : Sultan Pepper: did you find the fees page ? [2017-01-23 17:44:48] Sultan Pepper : Not yet, I'm glued to the chart :/ [2017-01-23 17:45:30] BTCDJS : Easily distracted huh? [2017-01-23 17:45:32] sleger : click on references on top [2017-01-23 17:48:39] Sultan Pepper : Ok [2017-01-23 17:50:26] thedoc : Bitmex can we move btc between different bitmex accounts anytime? [2017-01-23 17:50:42] Sultan Pepper : 922 to 921 short, still took a loss... [2017-01-23 17:50:52] thedoc : Fees [2017-01-23 17:51:04] thedoc : Don't market buy and sell [2017-01-23 17:51:15] thedoc : Set post only orders [2017-01-23 17:51:21] Sultan Pepper : Ok [2017-01-23 17:51:41] Sultan Pepper : what about 1 odd each? [2017-01-23 17:51:49] Sultan Pepper : of* [2017-01-23 17:57:26] BitMEX_Greg : thedoc: Still looking into this functionality [2017-01-23 17:58:08] thedoc : Excellent. That would be nice. Have It be instant [2017-01-23 18:14:19] ObZen : super newb here, whats the proper way to sell swap at higher price, 'take profit limit order' I assume, but what is trigger price? [2017-01-23 18:18:25] sleger : ObZen: just limit [2017-01-23 18:18:48] ObZen : can someone explain trigger price is tho? [2017-01-23 18:20:36] ObZen : if I want to sell the available XBT I have, why does it say I would increase my position from 0 to (negative amount) [2017-01-23 18:25:11] BitMEX_Greg : ObZen: We operate on contracts here. You cannot exchange Bitcoin for fiat. You can enter into a short position to create a hedge however [2017-01-23 18:28:20] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Greg: can you please check the tape on xbch17: every trade is shown in triplicate--is this correct or an error? [2017-01-23 18:28:52] BitMEX_Greg : NukeLaloosh: What do you mean by triplicate? [2017-01-23 18:29:07] BitMEX_Greg : The trade history looks fine right now [2017-01-23 18:29:55] NukeLaloosh : i'm seeing each print 3x the same for every trade [2017-01-23 18:31:11] NukeLaloosh : ex: sell q=301 p=6325.3 three instances . same for each trade going back as far as i can see [2017-01-23 18:31:13] BitMEX_Greg : NukeLaloosh: Can you take a screenshot and send to us? [2017-01-23 18:31:24] BitMEX_Greg : I only see that trade once [2017-01-23 18:31:29] NukeLaloosh : ok [2017-01-23 18:31:45] BitMEX_Greg : Thanks [2017-01-23 18:44:09] ObZen : BitMEX_Greg: I know but swap contract is essentially like USD right [2017-01-23 18:46:07] BitMEX_Greg : ObZen: It is a derivative contract that tracks the Bitcoin / USD price. You do not receive any USD by trading this contract [2017-01-23 18:46:49] ObZen : BitMEX_Greg: I know I dont "receive USD"..... [2017-01-23 18:47:15] ObZen : but the value of the contract is the same as USD at the point in time that I buy or sell it , correct? [2017-01-23 18:47:30] ObZen : the USD / BTC price at the point at which I bought / sold [2017-01-23 18:48:22] BitMEX_Greg : ObZen: so 1 contract is worth $1. If you buy 1 Bitcoin worth of exposure right now it will cost you the equivalent of $919.89 [2017-01-23 18:48:31] BitMEX_Wally : ObZen: If you submit an order to sell 100 contracts of XBTUSD then this order will increase your position from 0 to -100 [2017-01-23 18:48:39] BitMEX_Greg : similarly if you wish to sell 1 Bitcoin worth of exposure, you can sell $919.50 for that [2017-01-23 18:49:20] ObZen : BitMEX_Wally: its just the '0 to -100' that confuses me [2017-01-23 18:49:37] BitMEX_Wally : ObZen: You will have a short position in XBTUSD [2017-01-23 18:49:59] BitMEX_Wally : Which is effectively the same as being long 100 dollars [2017-01-23 19:02:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : Anyone know why Huobi is not trading on Bitcoin Wisdom? [2017-01-23 19:06:54] homen3 : what's funding countdown on right top corner? [2017-01-23 19:07:19] BitMEX_Greg : homen3: Please take a read of: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding [2017-01-23 19:07:27] homen3 : thx [2017-01-23 19:09:39] homen3 : mmm, not so easy :) but I understand a little more now [2017-01-23 19:10:22] homen3 : i see -0.1402%, so longs pay shorts? [2017-01-23 19:10:45] BitMEX_Greg : homen3: No, for negative funding shorts pay longs [2017-01-23 19:11:18] homen3 : that's why sometimes i see a negative PNL? [2017-01-23 19:11:34] homen3 : the realised one [2017-01-23 19:11:42] Derreck : $5 discount is not good [2017-01-23 19:13:49] homen3 : no.. i was wrong [2017-01-23 19:15:07] BitMEX_Greg : homen3: Yes it is reflected in the Realised PNL [2017-01-23 19:15:30] homen3 : oh ok, thx [2017-01-23 19:17:09] homen3 : last question about cross orders, if my liquidation price for a short xbtusd is 5000$ (for example), this order cannot be closed until liquiditation? [2017-01-23 19:17:34] BitMEX_Greg : homen3: No problem about the questions, ask away. That's what we are here for. [2017-01-23 19:17:44] BitMEX_Greg : But you can close your position at any time before liquidation [2017-01-23 19:18:15] homen3 : it cannot be closed by the system anyway, there's not an expiry time for orders? [2017-01-23 19:18:52] BitMEX_Greg : homen3: There is a possibility the position may become AutoDeleveraged, you can read about it here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging [2017-01-23 19:19:15] BitMEX_Greg : But apart from that and liquidations, the system will not close out your position as this swap is perpetual [2017-01-23 19:19:29] homen3 : ok thanks [2017-01-23 19:35:32] Battlebots : I love you, Greg. [2017-01-23 19:36:24] Ahhere : Battlebots: nog? [2017-01-23 19:36:42] Battlebots : Yeah, found out today I'm permabanned from trading here for being American [2017-01-23 19:37:00] thailand : I thought you were Mexican [2017-01-23 19:37:02] thailand : lol [2017-01-23 19:37:12] thailand : "North Mexico" [2017-01-23 19:37:12] Battlebots : North Mexican I said.. near Canadian Border [2017-01-23 19:37:17] thailand : lmao [2017-01-23 19:37:33] Battlebots : I'm gonna miss you guys [2017-01-23 19:37:46] Battlebots : I'm sure you will miss my money too [2017-01-23 19:38:18] Battlebots : I got rekt so much it was hard for anyone else to lose. :D [2017-01-23 19:38:33] Ahhere : Battlebots: lol taking one for the team right [2017-01-23 19:38:43] Battlebots : Yeah, charge it to Steemit Inc [2017-01-23 19:39:35] Derreck : 8 hours till the end of free trade in China [2017-01-23 19:42:19] BTCDJS : Shorts are paying longs? AW HELL NO! [2017-01-23 19:48:05] BitMEX_Sam : Discussing bypassing our country restrictions can be grounds for a ban. [2017-01-23 19:49:10] BTCDJS : Whipping the place into shape. I like it. No more mister nice guy hey? [2017-01-23 19:54:13] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: You're asking for it [2017-01-23 19:54:45] jung1 : :( [2017-01-23 19:55:12] jung1 : protip: proxy is not solution [2017-01-23 19:55:18] jung1 : there was some connection problem [2017-01-23 19:55:24] thedoc : btc whiplash [2017-01-23 19:55:45] thedoc : people fomoing at 918 and then 910 the next second [2017-01-23 19:56:13] bingbongfly : thedoc: yeah. I'm watching the action ok woodchippa, it's really strange [2017-01-23 19:56:20] bingbongfly : Don't know what to make of it [2017-01-23 19:56:26] guacamole : "hey - bitcoin is finally going up - 30 second later - oh, now it's even lower" [2017-01-23 19:56:36] charlyko : hahahhaa [2017-01-23 19:56:39] charlyko : that is bitcoin [2017-01-23 19:56:52] jung1 : do not forget that bitcoin is dead [2017-01-23 19:57:06] bingbongfly : It might be someone defending a short [2017-01-23 19:57:16] bingbongfly : it's def someone slapping down any upwards pressure [2017-01-23 19:57:18] bingbongfly : almost instantly [2017-01-23 19:58:06] bingbongfly : just let btc fly! [2017-01-23 20:00:34] BTCDJS : JUST LET ETC FLY! [2017-01-23 20:00:42] Tetsuo : unchain the wolves [2017-01-23 20:00:59] BTCDJS : MAKE ETC GREAT AGAIN [2017-01-23 20:01:10] BTCDJS : KEEP ETC GREAT [2017-01-23 20:04:15] MikeHunt : 8 hours til china fees [2017-01-23 20:04:53] BTCDJS : It doesnt matter. [2017-01-23 20:05:20] guacamole : BTCDJS: it might matter in the short to medium term if people think it matters [2017-01-23 20:05:33] guacamole : perception can create reality in the markets [2017-01-23 20:05:36] BTCDJS : What matters is that ETC must go up to at least 0.002 by friday [2017-01-23 20:05:44] BitMEX_Sam : FYI, for those of you using the API, we've announced new, more lenient changes to ratelimits. [2017-01-23 20:05:56] BitMEX_Sam : Please see https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/api-new-rate-limits/ [2017-01-23 20:14:06] thedoc : arg closed my long at the bottom [2017-01-23 20:14:34] Noobz : thedoc: you're doing it wrong [2017-01-23 20:14:36] Noobz : lol [2017-01-23 20:16:03] thedoc : yeah. $6 higher from where i closed [2017-01-23 20:16:27] Noobz : ohw thats not too bad [2017-01-23 20:18:01] cryptwrecked : good to see that I'm not the only spaz in here, jk [2017-01-23 20:19:50] thedoc : never know when btc will stop dumping [2017-01-23 20:20:20] yungyang : Yen swap is new? [2017-01-23 20:20:39] Noobz : too true @thedoc [2017-01-23 20:22:10] thedoc : where you seeing that yungyang? [2017-01-23 20:22:12] thedoc : testnet? [2017-01-23 20:25:39] yungyang : Saw it on the drop down from the mobile site [2017-01-23 20:27:03] thedoc : i'm not seeing it but i'll believe you [2017-01-23 20:28:02] yungyang : Oh it's not a swap, it's a daily [2017-01-23 20:28:06] yungyang : false alarm guys [2017-01-23 20:28:35] wurstgelee : i didnt feel alarmed tbh [2017-01-23 20:28:43] thedoc : ETC could easily dump [2017-01-23 20:45:05] cryptwrecked : doubt etc will dump tbh, looks like sideways accumulation with a new solid bottom around 148-150 [2017-01-23 20:47:34] yungyang : Don't sleep on Barry shills [2017-01-23 20:48:09] Sheriff : Anyone else think if the price can survive the next 24 hours the outlook will be very very bullish? [2017-01-23 20:48:28] thedoc : just weird that ETC news comes out and it stops short from where the other pumps with no news hit [2017-01-23 20:48:55] Papou : china bear whale will wake up soon [2017-01-23 20:48:57] cryptwrecked : that's part of the game [2017-01-23 20:49:01] Papou : longs are trapped [2017-01-23 20:49:08] cryptwrecked : think he's bear? [2017-01-23 20:49:14] Papou : for sure [2017-01-23 20:49:17] Papou : how could he not be [2017-01-23 20:49:18] cryptwrecked : would make sense to me [2017-01-23 20:49:34] cryptwrecked : seems like everyone and their dog is going to short [2017-01-23 20:49:37] Papou : this is free money for him and reaccumulate cheap, why pass on the opportunity [2017-01-23 20:49:40] yungyang : Etc stopped bc china was pissed, so they pumped BTC and shit it down [2017-01-23 20:49:58] Papou : no one gonna pump a whale to riches [2017-01-23 20:50:02] yungyang : china doesn't not like etc, they are much more ETH friendly [2017-01-23 20:50:05] cryptwrecked : and then the alt crew jumped ship [2017-01-23 20:52:09] cryptwrecked : most of the alts that get pumped are garbage [2017-01-23 20:55:37] thedoc : 0kcoin whale is probably short. otherwise there would be a premium [2017-01-23 20:55:58] thedoc : unless they are both long and short under the same account and it adds up their contracts [2017-01-23 20:56:37] Papou : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/xFR2aZwI-BTC-Final-Short-Term-Chart/ [2017-01-23 20:56:52] Noobz : the split makes more sense imo [2017-01-23 20:56:52] Papou : bull run is done. they got trapped....and they cant exit pump. [2017-01-23 20:56:56] Papou : massacre about to begin. [2017-01-23 20:57:10] Papou : they got faked out [2017-01-23 20:57:22] cryptwrecked : can anyone here confirm that accounts can split? [2017-01-23 20:57:23] Papou : right now they are just teasing the bull slaughter [2017-01-23 20:57:44] yungyang : Papou is ok coin mm [2017-01-23 20:57:56] yungyang : Head him [2017-01-23 21:00:02] thedoc : i do think this pump back up was just a last attempt [2017-01-23 21:00:31] thedoc : big epic dump [2017-01-23 21:00:32] thedoc : incoming [2017-01-23 21:04:15] Ahhere : shorts are loud tonight .. bbands tight so something gonna happen soon anyway [2017-01-23 21:05:41] abbey : Ahhere: true [2017-01-23 21:06:03] yungyang : Ahhere: ^ [2017-01-23 21:06:42] MikeHunt : 7 hours til fees [2017-01-23 21:06:44] MikeHunt : tick tock [2017-01-23 21:06:46] yungyang : None of us know...but I tbink china risks loosening its grip on a macro level with a huge dump [2017-01-23 21:07:05] yungyang : and I'm sure they've considered that...assuming there are very large players involved [2017-01-23 21:07:43] yungyang : so perhaps, if the coins get low enough a large pocket from Japan or US or maybe even Russia could buy up higher amounts...effectively weakening china [2017-01-23 21:08:12] Sheriff : Papou: You can't just draw lines to random support/resistances and say its fact lol [2017-01-23 21:08:21] Ahhere : yungyang: looking forward to the international btc race [2017-01-23 21:08:54] abbey : Ahhere: same [2017-01-23 21:09:03] thedoc : i still wonder how many people are long on china exchanges. if this dumps and doesnt stop due to no new longs opening will everyone get margin called [2017-01-23 21:09:33] thedoc : maybe there is more money than BTC to prevent that from happening [2017-01-23 21:11:37] thedoc : are we just going to pump this up to $2000 and let those lucky few in longs profit off the pump [2017-01-23 21:11:53] thedoc : or dump, margin call them, scoop up the cheap btc then pump [2017-01-23 21:12:40] thedoc : or maybe the big dump 8888 to below 5000 cny was it [2017-01-23 21:14:53] thedoc : maybe something soon though. http://i.imgur.com/Yws17Tj.png [2017-01-23 21:17:00] Ahhere : thedoc: good summary [2017-01-23 21:17:52] MikeHunt : thedoc: http://i.imgur.com/6obXxD5.png [2017-01-23 21:21:43] Ahhere : MikeHunt: the short of the century guaranteed billionaire [2017-01-23 21:23:00] thedoc : what's funny is when the fake volume started is when BTC took off [2017-01-23 21:23:20] thedoc : but mining has been increasing a ton which makes me think this isnt just a pump and dump [2017-01-23 21:24:33] datboiyuan : miners are most likely to dump [2017-01-23 21:24:49] thedoc : uptrend is something like this http://i.imgur.com/hrtJiJD.png [2017-01-23 21:25:24] thedoc : to me last couple days look like a giant bull trap [2017-01-23 21:25:27] abbey : MikeHunt: there you have the most beautiful cup ever this far, handle forming fast. go figure [2017-01-23 21:25:55] thedoc : this http://i.imgur.com/NHoqjJr.png [2017-01-23 21:27:08] thedoc : but maybe the demand is huge and we should just wait for the sideways chop before liftoff [2017-01-23 21:28:18] Tetsuo : http://imgur.com/a/1IORY [2017-01-23 21:28:31] Tetsuo : https://www.btcchina.com/ [2017-01-23 21:28:57] Tetsuo : "new" exchange [2017-01-23 21:29:06] Battlebots : Good evening, Tetsuo. I love you. [2017-01-23 21:31:02] Tetsuo : "All chinese users SHOULD go to!" lol [2017-01-23 21:31:13] Tetsuo : Battlebots: f u [2017-01-23 21:32:31] chatTroll : BITMEX_SAM in the jan 23 blog post you suggest using AWS eu-west-1 [2017-01-23 21:32:53] chatTroll : is there an api url that allows me to use that? [2017-01-23 21:33:04] BitMEX_Sam : I'm saying you should put your *server* in eu-west-1 [2017-01-23 21:33:12] BitMEX_Sam : All URLs resolve to eu-west-1. [2017-01-23 21:33:44] chatTroll : oh, you're just saying move closer to the server location [2017-01-23 21:34:26] cryptwrecked : no pnd, singularitycoin [2017-01-23 21:34:39] ronensinger : BitMEX_Sam: Hey sam [2017-01-23 21:34:42] cryptwrecked : tech is getting a massive boost as a result [2017-01-23 21:34:55] ronensinger : BitMEX_Sam: Is there any chance for a higher maker rebate? [2017-01-23 21:34:56] cryptwrecked : it's a win win for the survival of the human race [2017-01-23 21:35:16] cryptwrecked : need computers running like hotcakes [2017-01-23 21:35:51] BitMEX_Sam : ronensinger: Did you not receive our reply to your ticket? [2017-01-23 21:35:52] cryptwrecked : what indicators do you guys use on TV?....It's been a long time [2017-01-23 21:36:57] ronensinger : BitMEX_Sam: Just checkin again [2017-01-23 21:40:09] Battlebots : ronensinger, what fees do makers get? [2017-01-23 21:49:23] BTCDJS : Bitcwoin gon kwash [2017-01-23 21:53:49] Tetsuo : cheap H17 won´t last forever [2017-01-23 21:59:59] thedoc : once 0kcoin quarterly premium goes up when the big shorters get rekt then xbth17 will rocket up [2017-01-23 22:00:19] BTC-Noob : should i buy bitcoin or sell? what you guys think [2017-01-23 22:00:49] Tetsuo : all in [2017-01-23 22:01:16] thedoc : whatever happens i bet the first move will be a fake out