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[2017-01-22 17:04:54] Battlebots : My referrer probably made 20-40 bucks.. I'm done giving away my money
[2017-01-22 17:05:38] Battlebots : I'm done stirring up trouble here so I hope they'll let me join the community again
[2017-01-22 17:06:22] MikeHunt : battlebots is a good tv show
[2017-01-22 17:08:34] abbey : also stamp and finex trying to push up now with china
[2017-01-22 17:11:17] datboiyuan : shut up mike
[2017-01-22 17:14:01] MikeHunt : datboiyuan: u mad?
[2017-01-22 17:28:03] Papou : probably exit pumping
[2017-01-22 17:28:52] thedoc : Pumping back to where we were
[2017-01-22 17:29:43] thedoc : Xbth17 premium negative again. Is this going to dump again
[2017-01-22 17:33:17] BTC-Noob : lol shit my position of 10k was liquidated earlier toay, not sure if i gotta laugh or cry
[2017-01-22 17:33:41] Tetsuo : Battlebots: :Bitmex: support has been already notified about ur second ban evading. According the 3 strikes law in here u will soon receive your lifetime ban!
[2017-01-22 17:34:21] Battlebots : I'm not ban evading because they told me 1 day ban.
[2017-01-22 17:34:30] Battlebots : Thanks for your concern though.
[2017-01-22 17:34:42] Battlebots : Anyone can go back and check the logs.
[2017-01-22 17:34:45] Tetsuo : u know your sins, plz don´t add lying to it
[2017-01-22 17:36:49] birdie numn : anyone heard from nog?
[2017-01-22 17:37:06] Battlebots : I am nog on new account.
[2017-01-22 17:37:23] Battlebots : How are you birdie?
[2017-01-22 17:37:58] birdie numn : m good. leverage here rekt me so im trading in whaleclub. here just for the lulz
[2017-01-22 17:38:41] birdie numn : sitting on longs from 883 and 890. big things to come from those i predict
[2017-01-22 17:39:30] Derreck : 6300 incoming
[2017-01-22 17:39:59] birdie numn : so is 10k. timeframe ios what matters.
[2017-01-22 17:40:36] thedoc : I went from rekt to riches
[2017-01-22 17:40:39] rapidtrades : looooool @birdie
[2017-01-22 17:41:31] rowrow : we nudged 6300 but couldn't quite make it - maybe there's a wall on okc or something
[2017-01-22 17:41:32] rapidtrades : birdie? or TURDIEEE? you decide
[2017-01-22 17:42:16] Noobz : rowrow: 169 btc @ 6300
[2017-01-22 17:42:16] birdie numn : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛
[2017-01-22 17:42:32] rowrow : Noobz: ty
[2017-01-22 17:43:17] Noobz : *poof*
[2017-01-22 17:44:21] Battlebots : birdie, whaleclub on telegram or where? teamspeak?
[2017-01-22 17:45:20] birdie numn : Battlebots: the platfrom https://whaleclub.co/ 10x max leverage.
[2017-01-22 17:45:30] birdie numn : rapidtrades: you traded forex before?
[2017-01-22 17:45:42] Battlebots : OH I remember when that came out
[2017-01-22 17:45:43] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-01-22 17:47:50] birdie numn : rapidtrades: BTC scene has a way different demography attracted to it i think. do any stocks have moonkids?
[2017-01-22 17:49:12] rapidtrades : TSLA for sure
[2017-01-22 17:52:18] birdie numn : are they also obnoxious in their respective platforms trollboxes?
[2017-01-22 17:58:11] charlyko : short the hell okcoin has liquidated everyone
[2017-01-22 18:18:55] thedoc : ah yes. gotta keep that xbth17 premium negative. dump dump dump
[2017-01-22 18:19:58] yungyang : why do you want it to stay negative
[2017-01-22 18:20:25] thedoc : so i can long lower. then when it pumps and premium goes back up to $10 i make more
[2017-01-22 18:20:37] thedoc : or maybe it'll return to the glory days of $40 or $150 premium
[2017-01-22 18:20:47] airitout : Everyone, what will you take Tjaina will do when she wakes up - Long or Short?
[2017-01-22 18:21:01] airitout : *think
[2017-01-22 18:21:20] airitout : *will = do
[2017-01-22 18:27:54] jung1 : drop time
[2017-01-22 18:31:42] airitout : time to go down fellas
[2017-01-22 18:32:01] bingbongfly : btc 1000$ and quickly rising ;)
[2017-01-22 18:32:10] bingbongfly : cho cho
[2017-01-22 18:32:56] ronensinger : Is bitmex support online right now?
[2017-01-22 18:33:44] airitout : nope, it has hit its top.. Price goes done now
[2017-01-22 18:33:47] airitout : back to 885
[2017-01-22 18:35:13] bingbongfly : wish you were right... could add to my long
[2017-01-22 18:35:33] bingbongfly : unfort there is no coins to dujmp
[2017-01-22 18:35:42] bingbongfly : everyone's in hold mode
[2017-01-22 18:38:02] javierstone : damn wtf happened that was brutal
[2017-01-22 18:38:06] javierstone : i'm out
[2017-01-22 18:40:13] airitout : you can wait 6 hours before China dump happens.. or you can already go short now and take the ride down while making money
[2017-01-22 18:41:42] MikeHunt : javierstone: china fees introduced across all 3 exchanges
[2017-01-22 18:41:43] BTCDJS : ronensinger: :bitmex: how can I help?
[2017-01-22 18:42:01] BitMEX_Greg : ronensinger: Hi
[2017-01-22 18:42:30] BitMEX_Greg : ronensinger: (btw unless they have the logo infront with the word "BitMEX" in front of their name, then they are not from BitMEX
[2017-01-22 18:42:44] BTCDJS : :bitmex: Greg I got this
[2017-01-22 18:42:51] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-01-22 18:43:30] BitMEX_Greg : :)
[2017-01-22 18:43:35] BTCDJS : ?
[2017-01-22 18:44:21] abbey : airitout: but, but, the price still keeps rising, u sure about the top,s in and down it goes and shit?
[2017-01-22 18:46:51] Sultan Pepper : How do I get all these fucking indicators off my chart? I accidentally clicked like 8 of them looking for the ones I wanted
[2017-01-22 18:47:12] Sultan Pepper : "gently carressing" ....
[2017-01-22 18:48:06] Noobz : left side of the indicator, there is a menu if i remember correctly
[2017-01-22 18:49:05] BTCDJS : Sultan Pepper: :bitmex: there is a little + button on the top left. Click it and choose the indicator you want to remove.
[2017-01-22 18:49:17] Sultan Pepper : Thank you so much
[2017-01-22 18:49:34] BTCDJS : :bitmex: NP
[2017-01-22 18:49:38] Chewie : BTCDJS: Beat me to it
[2017-01-22 18:50:15] BitMEX_Greg : haha thanks guys for being helpful
[2017-01-22 18:51:10] BTCDJS : :bitmex: No need to thank me. Its my job
[2017-01-22 18:51:40] BitMEX_Greg : BTCDJS: Try not to troll anyone :)
[2017-01-22 18:52:24] BTCDJS : :bitmex: Cant promise but Ill try
[2017-01-22 18:52:40] thedoc : :BITMEX: we are all hear for you
[2017-01-22 18:52:49] charlyko : hahahahaha
[2017-01-22 18:53:33] thedoc : where is btc going
[2017-01-22 18:53:38] thedoc : who would want to get out of this great coin
[2017-01-22 18:53:43] bingbongfly : thedoc: up and down
[2017-01-22 18:54:44] thedoc : damn. going to skip the coffee and go straight to the booze. this is rough
[2017-01-22 18:55:22] Farzad : thedoc: lol
[2017-01-22 18:56:14] airitout : abbey: you say what?
[2017-01-22 18:57:06] charlyko : 6300 much roof
[2017-01-22 18:59:01] BTCDJS : Place your bids on the kijun
[2017-01-22 19:01:14] Sultan Pepper : Big triangle ending on the 1d right?
[2017-01-22 19:02:37] _INC_ : ready, set, doom
[2017-01-22 19:04:02] thedoc : dont fall for the trap. dont close anything
[2017-01-22 19:05:35] jung1 : 800 here we go
[2017-01-22 19:05:36] airitout : what do you mean close? I am shorting bro.
[2017-01-22 19:05:47] airitout : you're a fool if you're holding now
[2017-01-22 19:06:57] BTCDJS : Give a fool enough rope to hang themselves
[2017-01-22 19:08:01] ronensinger : I'm holding 1273
[2017-01-22 19:08:11] MikeHunt : ronensinger: short?
[2017-01-22 19:11:46] abbey : airitout: I asked you how sure you really are about the price direction.
[2017-01-22 19:14:56] narnarfromnarnia : i was waiting all day for that
[2017-01-22 19:15:05] narnarfromnarnia : and we dropped to 870 and i left no position open
[2017-01-22 19:15:07] narnarfromnarnia : omg
[2017-01-22 19:15:58] airitout : abbey: no one is sure whether price goes up or down. But we can make our conclusion based on the indications.
[2017-01-22 19:16:37] airitout : abbey: looks like market is saying: "I am going down"
[2017-01-22 19:17:00] abbey : I know, look at it go pal @airitout
[2017-01-22 19:18:11] narnarfromnarnia : airitout: its going to pump more again then really drop probably
[2017-01-22 19:18:23] narnarfromnarnia : so bad i had a short at 930
[2017-01-22 19:18:30] narnarfromnarnia : and closed it at 926 and went to bed
[2017-01-22 19:18:47] airitout : narnarfromnarnia: lol su
[2017-01-22 19:18:56] airitout : here you have some
[2017-01-22 19:19:02] airitout : technical analysis
[2017-01-22 19:19:07] airitout : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd
[2017-01-22 19:19:09] narnarfromnarnia : no i will watch for it all day
[2017-01-22 19:19:15] narnarfromnarnia : and then fall asleep again
[2017-01-22 19:19:21] narnarfromnarnia : and it will be a 100 drop
[2017-01-22 19:20:09] airitout : end of the story is it will go down
[2017-01-22 19:20:28] airitout : its quite clear what impact adding trading fees will do to the price of bitcoin. And I am afraid that the chinese government will not stop here as this decision is just the beginning of the measures they will take. May I remind you that OKCoin/ Huobi have already removed the option to leverage trade forced by their government. I expect that price will hit between 800 - 850 in coming 4 days.
[2017-01-22 19:22:07] Sultan Pepper : What about the 1d triangle closing?
[2017-01-22 19:23:15] narnarfromnarnia : well we get paid to be long
[2017-01-22 19:23:20] narnarfromnarnia : hmm
[2017-01-22 19:24:16] Sultan Pepper : Huh?
[2017-01-22 19:24:53] abbey : shorty squeezy closin in
[2017-01-22 19:24:58] abbey : ?
[2017-01-22 19:26:25] abbey : just had some long squeeze. Would suit me.
[2017-01-22 19:26:42] yungyang : 3rd time I've seen airitout copy paste
[2017-01-22 19:29:19] abbey : yungyang: yeah, he seems to have some bearpropaganda writings ready to put in.
[2017-01-22 19:30:26] thedoc : we are going to break ATH on all exchanges and pump to the moon. all within 4 weeks
[2017-01-22 19:30:57] airitout : copy/paste my own text. There is nothing wrong with that
[2017-01-22 19:31:06] thedoc : :BITMEX: you heard it hear first
[2017-01-22 19:33:49] narnarfromnarnia : airitout: lol https://www.tradingview.com/x/O4vRBxji/
[2017-01-22 19:36:02] abbey : airitout: Why are we still going up, you recommended ppl that this would be a good time to short
[2017-01-22 19:36:33] Chewie : If the zero-fee announcement was going to cause dumpage, then it would have happened already
[2017-01-22 19:36:41] abbey : and price was lower back then
[2017-01-22 19:37:03] Chewie : We may see an impact on the day when they click on the switch
[2017-01-22 19:40:26] airitout : @Chewie, its zero fee now.. Huobi and OKcoin will start calculating fees by 24 january.. google search what happened previous time a Chinese market announced something about calculating trading fees
[2017-01-22 19:40:58] Chewie : airitout: How about you just tell me
[2017-01-22 19:42:16] Chewie : I imagine the Chinese exchanges are just going to think up a new market that the PBOC can't touch in which they can move their zero-fee trading structure over
[2017-01-22 19:44:24] MikeHunt : i get the feeling i should go hide out in fiat at another exchange
[2017-01-22 19:44:40] MikeHunt : im not sure even regular short positions here will be adl safe
[2017-01-22 19:44:57] MikeHunt : if what happened last time they did this happens again
[2017-01-22 19:52:53] Papou : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/0c8MDXoa-bitcoin-sell-signal/
[2017-01-22 19:53:53] Gekko : ADL=socialism
[2017-01-22 19:54:19] thedoc : people thinking this will tank eh
[2017-01-22 19:55:17] MikeHunt : Papou: if the drop from $150 drop scales to the new triangle the same....jebus
[2017-01-22 19:55:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 5 @ 6250.5
[2017-01-22 19:55:34] MikeHunt : $908 - > $751
[2017-01-22 19:55:37] MikeHunt : let me calc
[2017-01-22 19:57:51] MikeHunt : hmm, cant be right
[2017-01-22 19:58:20] narnarfromnarnia : airitout: gonna pump a bit
[2017-01-22 19:58:55] Gekko : If leverage was less ADL wouldn't be necessary
[2017-01-22 19:59:26] Gekko : ADL = socialism
[2017-01-22 20:00:39] Sultan Pepper : I need to start taking Valium if I keep doing this
[2017-01-22 20:04:20] BTCDJS : Papou:https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/58851031/
[2017-01-22 20:06:55] Chewie : Meh, still better than socialised losses. @Gekko
[2017-01-22 20:07:17] Chewie : i.e. that DPE system or whatever it was called
[2017-01-22 20:07:27] Chewie : PUMP
[2017-01-22 20:07:40] thedoc : Pump
[2017-01-22 20:07:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 80000 @ 909.82 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-22 20:07:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1990 @ 914.26
[2017-01-22 20:07:47] thedoc : This isn't dumping
[2017-01-22 20:08:12] thedoc : See 80k don't short kids
[2017-01-22 20:08:37] jezeus : whoa
[2017-01-22 20:09:05] Apocalyptic : thedoc: pumpin ike it's hot
[2017-01-22 20:09:06] Papou : this is sad
[2017-01-22 20:09:11] Papou : bitcoin is even worse then before
[2017-01-22 20:10:34] abbey : Papou: your signal chart just sucks, you put too much trust on that. I wouldn't never trade with that kind of trading tool.
[2017-01-22 20:11:08] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-22 20:11:43] narnarfromnarnia : 920 and im short again
[2017-01-22 20:11:59] wurstgelee : gl
[2017-01-22 20:12:04] Papou : they are going for 1000
[2017-01-22 20:12:12] Papou : they will pump it to 1000 then dump
[2017-01-22 20:12:49] abbey : Papou: don' t say that, because it will turn out opposite.
[2017-01-22 20:13:48] loomdart : lol
[2017-01-22 20:13:55] loomdart : hoping you guys didn't fall for the bear meme
[2017-01-22 20:14:28] wurstgelee : which one?
[2017-01-22 20:15:14] loomdart : both ;)
[2017-01-22 20:16:44] wurstgelee : oO
[2017-01-22 20:16:52] Chewie : 940 or bust
[2017-01-22 20:16:53] BTC-Noob : throwback in the making
[2017-01-22 20:17:47] wurstgelee : now y'all wish you'd catched those sub-890 knifes,
[2017-01-22 20:20:41] thedoc : I closed long at huge loss at the bottom.
[2017-01-22 20:21:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 916.79
[2017-01-22 20:21:17] wurstgelee : @knife
[2017-01-22 20:21:18] wurstgelee : :)
[2017-01-22 20:21:21] wurstgelee : a
[2017-01-22 20:21:28] jung1 : thedoc: buy high, sell low. STAY CLASSY
[2017-01-22 20:21:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 916.84
[2017-01-22 20:21:52] thedoc : Then yolo longed 66x to make back what i lost
[2017-01-22 20:22:45] charlyko : or to lost your house
[2017-01-22 20:23:16] Sultan Pepper : I'm shorting this 100x for a $5 drop
[2017-01-22 20:23:30] charlyko : you rekt
[2017-01-22 20:24:16] cryptwrecked : should have cashed out profits earlier, and caught the next wave up. always take profit!
[2017-01-22 20:25:56] rowrow : cryptwrecked: "always take profit!" - if i had taken this advice in life i'd probably be a lot wealthier, but it would be kinda lame to start now
[2017-01-22 20:26:51] cryptwrecked : gambling is an addictive drug eh
[2017-01-22 20:35:56] charlyko : very. very addictive. :__(
[2017-01-22 20:37:16] rowrow : "the best thing in gambling and winning. the second best thing is gambling and losing"
[2017-01-22 20:37:43] cryptwrecked : "gambling: the guide"
[2017-01-22 20:39:41] loomdart : guys
[2017-01-22 20:39:43] loomdart : why don't you stop gambling
[2017-01-22 20:39:46] loomdart : and just trade profitably
[2017-01-22 20:39:49] rowrow : 24hour cny turnover has bitcoin quarterly beat, despite 1/3rd of the shares, interesting
[2017-01-22 20:39:49] loomdart : I don't understand
[2017-01-22 20:42:47] Papou : launch imminent
[2017-01-22 20:42:51] Papou : slingshot past 1200+
[2017-01-22 20:42:54] Battlebots : Hey loomdart, I missed you.
[2017-01-22 20:43:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 20 @ 924.35
[2017-01-22 20:44:18] cryptwrecked : was up pnl +149% on point that liquidation. didn't follow rule number 1 in trading. don't be a dick. don't make the mistake i just did.
[2017-01-22 20:44:51] cryptwrecked : not that one
[2017-01-22 20:45:48] Battlebots : *hugs* we'll learn from you.
[2017-01-22 20:46:54] charlyko : cryptwrecked: with 150% profit you can close and go to watch a movie
[2017-01-22 20:47:29] loomdart : hey battlebots
[2017-01-22 20:47:34] loomdart : I missed me too
[2017-01-22 20:47:43] rowrow : 150% "ROE" on here isn't necessarily that much, unless you mean real +150% on your account
[2017-01-22 20:48:01] rowrow : certainly not a bad thing either of course
[2017-01-22 20:48:04] charlyko : rowrow: depends of the cost of your position
[2017-01-22 20:48:18] cryptwrecked : yeah, please do. decided to fuck around....on beggar volume, after not bailing the tides well in nice profit. although, i hadn't put down enough contracts initially, so decided to up it, on a few dips. My buy in price was much lower than my avg. Should have just closed it at +150 and had a nap. fml
[2017-01-22 20:48:24] rowrow : charlyko: yeah, if you're all in 100x it's great, low leverage probably not as crazy
[2017-01-22 20:48:31] charlyko : better to think profits in % than in $
[2017-01-22 20:48:39] charlyko : you will control risk better
[2017-01-22 20:49:20] cryptwrecked : it wasn't ROE on my account, thankfully, but still hoovered it out accordingly lol
[2017-01-22 20:52:37] Noobz : 6350 is pretty strong
[2017-01-22 20:53:02] yungyang : yeah till 630pm est nigga
[2017-01-22 20:53:31] rowrow : strong as in bullish indicator or strong as in nice recovery? i'd definitely agree it's a great recovery on the day
[2017-01-22 20:53:57] cryptwrecked : That's when the world's collide right!
[2017-01-22 20:55:43] Noobz : rowrow: strong as in the last ten minutes it prevented the rise to go above.
[2017-01-22 20:56:05] rowrow : Noobz: ah, gotcha
[2017-01-22 20:56:06] Sultan Pepper : If we close over the MA today, it's into orbit right?
[2017-01-22 20:57:36] Tetsuo : :btc: :soon: :full_moon:
[2017-01-22 21:09:27] thedoc : Nice you found more
[2017-01-22 21:09:48] thedoc : ?
[2017-01-22 21:10:51] thedoc : ????????? moon
[2017-01-22 21:12:21] Noobz : ♏◎◎ᾔ
[2017-01-22 21:13:22] Noobz : ᙢᗢᗢﬡ
[2017-01-22 21:13:39] Sultan Pepper : 8008135
[2017-01-22 21:22:29] Olu : Hello all.
[2017-01-22 21:23:42] Olu : I'm new here but I trust my Forex skills. I will be dropping Bitcoin alert here sometime to show directions. Either up or down. Buy or sell
[2017-01-22 21:24:42] Olu : For now Bitcoin is going up and will don so for sometime tonight. I'm trading from GMT+1, so when I say tonight, do understand my timezone
[2017-01-22 21:24:48] Sultan Pepper : We're all sheep here, so go ahead and we'll listen blindly
[2017-01-22 21:25:01] Olu : No sheep sir
[2017-01-22 21:25:17] Olu : Everyone is a professional in his own field
[2017-01-22 21:25:47] Sultan Pepper : Not doubting you. I just dont really trust anyone
[2017-01-22 21:25:54] Olu : I win about 10 out of 12 price movement within the last 1 month
[2017-01-22 21:26:13] MikeHunt : 2/12 can still destroy you
[2017-01-22 21:26:14] Olu : For now Bitcoin is going up
[2017-01-22 21:26:25] airitout : MikeHunt: RT
[2017-01-22 21:26:42] airitout : MikeHunt:
[2017-01-22 21:27:07] airitout : [22:25] Olu: I win about 10 out of 12 price movement within the last 1 month [22:26] MikeHunt: 2/12 can still destroy you
[2017-01-22 21:27:19] Olu : It depends on money management. 10/12 is still over 80% accuracy. That's considered good
[2017-01-22 21:27:32] Sultan Pepper : What's your strategy?
[2017-01-22 21:27:40] Sultan Pepper : And indicators
[2017-01-22 21:28:29] Olu : I code several indicators into 1
[2017-01-22 21:28:41] Olu : I know a bit of coding too
[2017-01-22 21:29:52] loomdart : I won 11/10 trades
[2017-01-22 21:29:55] loomdart : how?
[2017-01-22 21:30:07] loomdart : proOTE skills.
[2017-01-22 21:30:19] Olu : 10/12 I say
[2017-01-22 21:33:29] Olu : It's 10:32 pm over here and could go to sleep any moment. Will drop alert in change in direction if I get any tonight. For now btc is still going up
[2017-01-22 21:37:05] abbey : you don't need much skill to say that. It stands there quite clear on the charts.
[2017-01-22 21:37:34] abbey : ^@Olu
[2017-01-22 21:39:23] abbey : but you're welcome anyways
[2017-01-22 21:40:04] ronensinger : How many of you guys have made a profit in the last two weeks?
[2017-01-22 21:42:29] abbey : Well I closed some of my longs today, made few btc profit there.
[2017-01-22 21:43:14] ronensinger : You've made more than 1 btc?
[2017-01-22 21:43:20] abbey : still long with 2/3
[2017-01-22 21:43:35] ronensinger : abbey: You've made more than 1 btc?
[2017-01-22 21:44:08] abbey : yes, about 3,5 btc
[2017-01-22 21:44:23] ronensinger : abbey: Are you on the leaderboard?
[2017-01-22 21:44:57] abbey : havent checked, but i doubt it
[2017-01-22 21:45:16] ronensinger : abbey: Do you automate your trading?
[2017-01-22 21:45:34] abbey : no, I go manual
[2017-01-22 21:45:43] Noobz : leaderboard is about ROE instead of total BTC isn't it?
[2017-01-22 21:45:48] ronensinger : abbey: Oh. I just market make
[2017-01-22 21:46:02] ronensinger : I'm on the leaderboard for ROE
[2017-01-22 21:46:07] ronensinger : But not for total
[2017-01-22 21:47:04] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: how do you deal with such crazy pumps yhen you're mming ?
[2017-01-22 21:47:25] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: I have a noise filtering algorithim
[2017-01-22 21:47:32] ronensinger : And limits as to how much I can buy and sell
[2017-01-22 21:47:50] ronensinger : So I never get caught short on a pump or long on a dump
[2017-01-22 21:48:43] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: However, its actually pretty easy to make markets on a pump
[2017-01-22 21:48:51] ronensinger : Because buyers and sellers are aplenty
[2017-01-22 21:49:05] ronensinger : Its dangerous on a dump though, because they're usually only sellers
[2017-01-22 21:49:10] Apocalyptic : yeah
[2017-01-22 21:49:20] Apocalyptic : and you can get filled pretty high
[2017-01-22 21:49:30] ronensinger : How much leverage do you guys use
[2017-01-22 21:49:48] BTC-Noob : that false breakout to 880 caught my 10k position, still crying about it
[2017-01-22 21:50:40] narnarfromnarnia : ronensinger: 100x
[2017-01-22 21:50:45] narnarfromnarnia : yolo
[2017-01-22 21:50:46] ronensinger : I wish I could see which users I'm trading with. That'd be awesome
[2017-01-22 21:52:09] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: you made the noise-filtering algo yourself ?
[2017-01-22 21:52:43] ronensinger : Ye
[2017-01-22 21:52:44] Apocalyptic : and what spread are you typically quoting ?
[2017-01-22 21:52:50] Apocalyptic : in %
[2017-01-22 21:52:56] ronensinger : That's confidential ;)
[2017-01-22 21:54:31] Apocalyptic : fair enough
[2017-01-22 21:57:29] ronensinger : Right now the spread is way to tight to make money
[2017-01-22 21:57:42] aethlios : Hello traders, what's up. they rally added fees? for cny pairs? coindesk says investigation didn't end yet.
[2017-01-22 21:57:46] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: yeah
[2017-01-22 21:57:55] Apocalyptic : sometimes it's even 0.01
[2017-01-22 21:58:02] ronensinger : Another bot probably wants to buy some back, but doesn't want to pay the taker fee so he bids 1 penny under the ask
[2017-01-22 22:02:05] ronensinger : This market is way to quiet
[2017-01-22 22:02:28] Apocalyptic : that's good for MMing
[2017-01-22 22:02:37] ronensinger : Not for me
[2017-01-22 22:02:47] ronensinger : My bots require a bit of movement
[2017-01-22 22:02:58] Apocalyptic : the last thing you want is high volatility, unless you are auoting like a 0.5% spread
[2017-01-22 22:03:21] ronensinger : Do you program at all, apocalptic?
[2017-01-22 22:03:27] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: I do
[2017-01-22 22:03:32] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: Whats languages?
[2017-01-22 22:04:01] Apocalyptic : depends, a bit of everything, but I prefer C/python
[2017-01-22 22:04:09] ronensinger : Python is my afvorite
[2017-01-22 22:04:17] ronensinger : Node.js is great for bots though
[2017-01-22 22:04:23] Apocalyptic : yeah it's the best scripting lang for me
[2017-01-22 22:04:37] ronensinger : Do you trade on any other exchanges?
[2017-01-22 22:04:46] Apocalyptic : nope, do you ?
[2017-01-22 22:07:54] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: here's your activity
[2017-01-22 22:08:01] ronensinger : Apocalyptic: I market make on OKCoin and Bitfinex as well
[2017-01-22 22:08:14] ronensinger : But Im pulling out of OKCoin today
[2017-01-22 22:08:28] ronensinger : Lmao ok coin autocorrects
[2017-01-22 22:08:32] ronensinger : to okcoin
[2017-01-22 22:08:42] Apocalyptic : yes
[2017-01-22 22:08:51] Apocalyptic : why areyou pulling out ?
[2017-01-22 22:08:56] ronensinger : Their markets are purely fictious
[2017-01-22 22:09:04] ronensinger : I think Im trading against the exchange
[2017-01-22 22:09:28] ronensinger : And Chinese exchanges aren't too reputable in any case
[2017-01-22 22:10:48] MikeHunt : no more fees by 24th apparently
[2017-01-22 22:10:51] MikeHunt : all 3 exchanges
[2017-01-22 22:10:54] MikeHunt : = dump
[2017-01-22 22:11:40] Papou : bitcoin is a huge bubble due to china fake volume
[2017-01-22 22:11:42] Papou : about to implode
[2017-01-22 22:11:48] Papou : then it will rise organically
[2017-01-22 22:11:50] thedoc : maybe
[2017-01-22 22:11:56] Papou : everyone is waiting for sub 100 bitcoins
[2017-01-22 22:12:01] Apocalyptic : ronensinger: there's another MM that pullout out of chinese exchanges as well a few days ago
[2017-01-22 22:12:04] Papou : nobody gonna buy bags off people man
[2017-01-22 22:12:08] trat : how low we going?
[2017-01-22 22:12:10] thedoc : 6350 cny is huge resistance
[2017-01-22 22:12:15] Papou : dude
[2017-01-22 22:12:19] Papou : fake resistance
[2017-01-22 22:12:19] thedoc : so this could be the top of the dead cat bounce
[2017-01-22 22:12:28] Papou : all of china volume is fake
[2017-01-22 22:12:35] Papou : the future market is a big darivative bubble
[2017-01-22 22:12:40] Papou : and what pumped bitcoin to 1000
[2017-01-22 22:12:42] Papou : now they exit pumping
[2017-01-22 22:13:08] Papou : bitcoin needs better distro dude
[2017-01-22 22:13:13] Papou : no one will buy bags 1k+
[2017-01-22 22:13:26] Papou : ive never met a person in real life who even knows about bitcoin yet
[2017-01-22 22:13:38] Papou : and the few ppl ive been talking into, ran away after the dump
[2017-01-22 22:13:38] Noobz : lol
[2017-01-22 22:13:44] Papou : and some research into the china bubble
[2017-01-22 22:14:05] Papou : dude bitcoin distro is so horrible...u think its gonna a rocket ship?
[2017-01-22 22:14:07] MikeHunt : Papou: do you think 1x shorts are gonna survive it?
[2017-01-22 22:14:13] Papou : it would be worse wealth accumulation then current fiat
[2017-01-22 22:14:17] Papou : if bitcoin went parabolic
[2017-01-22 22:14:32] Papou : yes
[2017-01-22 22:34:18] thedoc : Dump time
[2017-01-22 22:34:27] thedoc : Hold onto your shorts
[2017-01-22 22:35:14] rowrow : guess you could get rich shorting every time cny reaches 6338 then exiting at 6115
[2017-01-22 22:35:21] rowrow : 6315*
[2017-01-22 22:48:38] Papou : logically bitcoin should dump
[2017-01-22 22:48:42] Papou : but doesnt look like it will
[2017-01-22 22:48:57] Papou : it might try 950, lots of bag holders will want to exit there, maybe they try 1000
[2017-01-22 22:51:32] yungyang : <100 huh?
[2017-01-22 22:51:35] yungyang : good value buy there
[2017-01-22 22:51:59] MikeHunt : Papou: the fees havent kicked in yet apparently
[2017-01-22 22:52:16] yungyang : yeah no shit
[2017-01-22 22:52:32] Papou : i mean the volume shouldnt sustain
[2017-01-22 22:52:48] Papou : i think they are just absorbing the contract dumpage
[2017-01-22 22:52:55] MikeHunt : Papou: what we see now maybe just pump in prep for the big dump
[2017-01-22 22:52:56] Papou : to close the existing leveraged positions
[2017-01-22 22:53:02] Papou : yes
[2017-01-22 22:53:06] Papou : the pump is getting smaller and smaller
[2017-01-22 22:53:11] Papou : and is low volume
[2017-01-22 22:53:17] Papou : exit pump
[2017-01-22 22:53:21] MikeHunt : yeh the MFI suggests it hasnt got a lot of time left
[2017-01-22 22:55:28] abbey : Papou: u don't have a clue what's gonna happen, our prophet. No surprise really.
[2017-01-22 22:57:12] narnarfromnarnia : Papou: exit pump to 940
[2017-01-22 22:57:19] narnarfromnarnia : trigger stops on daily then dump
[2017-01-22 22:58:06] Papou : its dumping for sure
[2017-01-22 22:58:12] Papou : nobody is gonna pump bags to riches for free
[2017-01-22 22:58:17] Papou : u guys are really dumb
[2017-01-22 22:59:11] abbey : Papou: are you saying btcs real value is zero?
[2017-01-22 22:59:29] ryvirath : me, I say that
[2017-01-22 22:59:46] ryvirath : but I'm super long BTC right now; trends don't lie
[2017-01-22 23:01:36] abbey : Papou: and man is seriously talking about logic, lol
[2017-01-22 23:02:35] narnarfromnarnia : anyone know what's up with huobi
[2017-01-22 23:02:43] narnarfromnarnia : on bitcoinwisdom?
[2017-01-22 23:02:53] narnarfromnarnia : ddos or all trades terminated lol
[2017-01-22 23:04:17] abbey : https://cryptowat.ch/huobi/btccny
[2017-01-22 23:05:12] aethlios : 0.2% for both maker taker is a bad fee structure.
[2017-01-22 23:05:26] aethlios : volume will crash
[2017-01-22 23:07:07] aethlios : The emporer has no clothes
[2017-01-22 23:07:46] abbey : narnarfromnarnia: https://www.huobi.com/market/cny_btc
[2017-01-22 23:08:45] narnarfromnarnia : abbey: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny
[2017-01-22 23:08:48] narnarfromnarnia : api ded
[2017-01-22 23:09:31] abbey : narnarfromnarnia: bitcoinwisdom has issues with huobi data feed often, dunno why.
[2017-01-22 23:12:15] abbey : typically it goes down when rally starts.
[2017-01-22 23:13:10] Apocalyptic : abbey: or when it dumps
[2017-01-22 23:13:18] Apocalyptic : same with okcoin's feed
[2017-01-22 23:13:33] abbey : Apocalyptic: yes, true.
[2017-01-22 23:30:12] thedoc : almost dump time
[2017-01-22 23:31:02] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-22 23:31:07] aethlios : the great deleverage will happen.
[2017-01-22 23:31:09] narnarfromnarnia : everyone is dump or rally in here
[2017-01-22 23:31:32] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: how did you do on that last wave?
[2017-01-22 23:31:42] MikeHunt : abbey: we know because in 2013 they reintroduced fees and it tanked from 880 to 400 within a few days
[2017-01-22 23:31:45] narnarfromnarnia : i had a short at 930 but closed at 926 to go to bed
[2017-01-22 23:32:13] thedoc : this was the great bull trap
[2017-01-22 23:32:13] aethlios : i am just watching many days now, i am hedged 100% with march.
[2017-01-22 23:33:19] MikeHunt : on titanic, unlike in film, the panic didnt start until ~2hrs later, when the water reached the top deck and all the boats were gone, get a short in now while u still can
[2017-01-22 23:33:59] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: the shorts have to close with high margin
[2017-01-22 23:34:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 7 @ 6319.6
[2017-01-22 23:34:12] narnarfromnarnia : there's more leverage in shorts than longs hmm
[2017-01-22 23:39:44] rowrow : finally breaking 6350, maybe
[2017-01-22 23:40:03] thedoc : lol btc new high
[2017-01-22 23:40:11] thedoc : pumpin
[2017-01-22 23:40:43] abbey : can't you guys decide?
[2017-01-22 23:41:16] abbey : you don't know shit
[2017-01-22 23:42:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 2 @ 6393.4 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-22 23:42:15] rowrow : today's dump has been about 75% erased
[2017-01-22 23:42:18] abbey : Mike, market's quite different now than 2013
[2017-01-22 23:42:58] thedoc : fake out pump to hit stops. now dump time
[2017-01-22 23:43:26] narnarfromnarnia : thedoc: i dont think so
[2017-01-22 23:44:18] thedoc : gotta break this resistance http://i.imgur.com/ONIhwm5.png
[2017-01-22 23:44:24] Sultan Pepper : We're in a reverse triangle, right?
[2017-01-22 23:44:51] Olu : Btc coming down
[2017-01-22 23:45:48] Olu : Please I can't see where to close a trade in case the direction changed
[2017-01-22 23:45:51] thedoc : xmr hit a new recent high
[2017-01-22 23:46:03] thedoc : etc almost 3 day bullflag
[2017-01-22 23:46:23] Noobz : Olu: active orders
[2017-01-22 23:46:24] Olu : Can someone please show me how to close an open trade
[2017-01-22 23:46:32] thedoc : btc new high
[2017-01-22 23:46:38] thedoc : yeah just do the opposite
[2017-01-22 23:46:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 10663 @ 6413.9
[2017-01-22 23:46:47] thedoc : if you bought then sell a certain # of contracts
[2017-01-22 23:47:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 25000 @ 925.28
[2017-01-22 23:47:18] Olu : Ok. You mean since I'm on sell now, I should just buy when I want to close sell
[2017-01-22 23:47:28] Sultan Pepper : Yeah man
[2017-01-22 23:47:39] Sultan Pepper : just submit the opposite order
[2017-01-22 23:47:41] Olu : Ok. Thanks bro
[2017-01-22 23:47:49] Sultan Pepper : Olu thinks we're dumping
[2017-01-22 23:47:50] abbey : weathercock @thedoc
[2017-01-22 23:48:11] Olu : That means I must have an order openned at all times
[2017-01-22 23:48:18] rowrow : there's also a button in the positions tab to close the order but i think it's easier to just use the normal trading to close it
[2017-01-22 23:48:22] abbey : weather c o c k
[2017-01-22 23:48:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1800 @ 918.75
[2017-01-22 23:48:57] Sultan Pepper : nah, you go long at 1000. Sell 1000 and it'll close out everything
[2017-01-22 23:49:12] Sultan Pepper : nothing left open
[2017-01-22 23:49:59] Olu : If I want to close, do I use limit / stop/ market order on the opposite to close or can I just use anyone
[2017-01-22 23:50:08] Sultan Pepper : Any one
[2017-01-22 23:50:23] Sultan Pepper : just so you fulfil the same amount of contacts
[2017-01-22 23:51:12] Sultan Pepper : you might not hit a limit or a stop though
[2017-01-22 23:51:31] Sultan Pepper : market is instant, with higher fees Olu
[2017-01-22 23:53:00] thedoc : you dont always need to have a position olu
[2017-01-22 23:53:01] abbey : how do you feel bears? scared a bit?
[2017-01-22 23:53:18] thedoc : you can close everything you have open buy doing a limit order or market buy of the # of contracts you are short
[2017-01-22 23:53:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5887 @ 921.00
[2017-01-22 23:53:33] thedoc : or just wait for that to happen ^
[2017-01-22 23:55:01] Olu : I'm long now. It was a fake signal for Short
[2017-01-22 23:55:19] yungyang : this nigga
[2017-01-22 23:56:12] Olu : Getting to correct a mistake faster is key
[2017-01-22 23:56:19] Sultan Pepper : *Ludacris: How low*
[2017-01-22 23:56:36] Olu : I'm on Buy now. I've closed the sell
[2017-01-22 23:56:51] Sultan Pepper : *Shitty new rapper: All the way up!*
[2017-01-22 23:57:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 921.22
[2017-01-22 23:58:03] Apocalyptic : Sultan Pepper: d o double g
[2017-01-22 23:59:25] rowrow : which places do people find it's best to check order book depth on the chinese exchanges? (futures market rather than spot? any particular exchange or source?)
[2017-01-23 00:00:04] yungyang : j cole yo!
[2017-01-23 00:00:06] yungyang : bouta blow upppp
[2017-01-23 00:00:19] yungyang : future hoops
[2017-01-23 00:00:31] rowrow : i guess bitcoin wisdom has them but assume that's for spot price
[2017-01-23 00:01:48] charlyko : rowrow: tradingview ?
[2017-01-23 00:02:12] charlyko : you can add any exchange there
[2017-01-23 00:03:45] j8 : orderbooks on tradingview? don't think so
[2017-01-23 00:03:46] Sultan Pepper : Is that j cole?
[2017-01-23 00:04:14] Sultan Pepper : i like j cole, He didn't do all the way up right?
[2017-01-23 00:04:49] rowrow : don't necessarily need whole order book, just for looking at market depth - still unsure though if price is driven more by the futures market or spot market (would think futures)
[2017-01-23 00:05:13] yungyang : nah he did "Blow Up"
[2017-01-23 00:05:15] yungyang : this all the way up, I do not know
[2017-01-23 00:08:15] abbey : Starting week will be interesting.
[2017-01-23 00:11:35] rowrow : huobi futures (bitvc weekly) 25 cny lower priced than main market, odd
[2017-01-23 00:14:52] sleger : its not odd
[2017-01-23 00:15:02] sleger : all 1w futures are at a discount
[2017-01-23 00:16:58] rowrow : it had usually followed the market pretty closely all the other times i looked, rarely 7 cny out - guess people are freaked out over there
[2017-01-23 00:17:12] Sultan Pepper : I CAN FEEL IT Y'ALL!!! WE BOUT TO TRADE SIDEWAYS FOR AN HOUR!
[2017-01-23 00:21:04] Olu : Yes you are right but the bull has a upper hand
[2017-01-23 00:21:49] thedoc : i wonder what it'll take to get futures back up to a bigger premium
[2017-01-23 00:23:45] rowrow : was wondering the same thing, guess people are satisfied with the recent market rises to feel bullish - we got up to $15 or so yesterday, but previously it seemed like $30 premium was the baseline (went up with rises, fell with dips)
[2017-01-23 00:24:02] rowrow : guess people aren't* satisfied i mean
[2017-01-23 00:29:01] Papou : poor bastards anyone going long at these prices
[2017-01-23 00:33:04] thedoc : one of these times it'll be the top
[2017-01-23 00:33:33] thedoc : there it goes
[2017-01-23 00:33:35] thedoc : dump dump dump
[2017-01-23 00:36:47] Olu : Market will be sideways for a few moments
[2017-01-23 00:41:36] aethlios : bitmex march more bullish than okcoin
[2017-01-23 00:42:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1960 @ 915.82
[2017-01-23 00:42:31] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-01-23 00:42:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 916.22
[2017-01-23 00:42:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 997 @ 916.01
[2017-01-23 00:42:38] thedoc : lol
[2017-01-23 00:42:46] thedoc : i love how they are usually all around the same price
[2017-01-23 00:42:50] Apocalyptic : peeps got rekt