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[2017-01-22 06:48:54] sleger : etc is not ethereum dummy
[2017-01-22 06:48:58] MikeHunt : ryvirath: Yes china dumped on pboc announcements, not sure about etc
[2017-01-22 06:49:15] MikeHunt : i mean eth is fundamentally flawed because of what the devs did with bailout
[2017-01-22 06:49:25] ryvirath : hehe
[2017-01-22 06:49:33] ryvirath : you are going to have so much egg on your face mikehunt
[2017-01-22 06:49:38] MikeHunt : y?
[2017-01-22 06:50:07] ryvirath : oh because Ethereum is very likely going to be the dominant public chain
[2017-01-22 06:50:34] MikeHunt : ryvirath: china picked etc, so that makes eth poo poo already
[2017-01-22 06:50:35] ryvirath : and the DAO represents one incorrect coding procedures not a fundamental flaw with turing completeness
[2017-01-22 06:50:49] MikeHunt : ryvirath: bailing out= socialized losses = socialism
[2017-01-22 06:50:51] MikeHunt : socialism = cancer
[2017-01-22 06:50:55] MikeHunt : destroys over time
[2017-01-22 06:51:10] cz9emcu : have you looked at programming a smart contract in ethereum? Dapps are the future, but not on that platform.
[2017-01-22 06:51:15] ryvirath : I see you bought the propaganda hook like an sinker
[2017-01-22 06:51:35] ryvirath : anyone I'm here to convert; but you will probably remember this conversation some time down the line as an oppurtunity you didn't take to alter your beliefs
[2017-01-22 06:51:42] ryvirath : I'm not here*
[2017-01-22 06:51:57] MikeHunt : ryvirath: socialism is always bad
[2017-01-22 06:52:07] MikeHunt : it means devs arent resposible
[2017-01-22 06:52:24] ryvirath : cz9emcu: yeah I've done some basic stuff; enough for me to realize that governments will want Tezos and mass market will use Ethereum
[2017-01-22 06:52:45] ryvirath : OCaml is the shit for formal decidability
[2017-01-22 06:53:27] cz9emcu : Its a horrible programming env. It will easily be replaced by a better one. Consider ethereum to be Yahoo
[2017-01-22 06:53:41] MikeHunt : cz9emcu: lol
[2017-01-22 06:54:00] MikeHunt : mEth is bad for u
[2017-01-22 06:54:20] stevenmst : How does a mechanism for a central authority to step in and move money around at will not break the entire idea of the blockchain?
[2017-01-22 06:55:00] MikeHunt : stevenmst: whole point of cryptocurrencies imo is to bankrupt inefficient regimes
[2017-01-22 06:55:10] stevenmst : ehh
[2017-01-22 06:55:15] stevenmst : it might be a side effect
[2017-01-22 06:55:20] MikeHunt : stevenmst: NSA did paper on crypto back in 1996
[2017-01-22 06:55:23] stevenmst : not the purpose though
[2017-01-22 06:55:30] MikeHunt : maybe
[2017-01-22 06:55:36] stevenmst : got a link for that?
[2017-01-22 06:55:46] MikeHunt : it also allows tracability of money
[2017-01-22 06:56:16] MikeHunt : stevenmst: i think this is it... http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm
[2017-01-22 06:56:27] ryvirath : cz9emcu: the EF formal verification guy is doing some amazing work and Dr. R is redesigning Solidity assembly to be more capable in that respect
[2017-01-22 06:56:57] cz9emcu : i saw that. We'll see
[2017-01-22 06:57:31] thailand : ryvirath: ETH will be the public chain you say? MIssed prior convo
[2017-01-22 06:57:57] ryvirath : one of three or four I'd imagine, but the main one
[2017-01-22 06:58:04] ryvirath : for consumer facing stuff
[2017-01-22 06:58:18] thailand : what are the other 2-3?
[2017-01-22 06:58:22] thailand : in your opinion
[2017-01-22 06:58:39] thailand : I've been curious about alts as of late
[2017-01-22 06:59:00] cz9emcu : They've carved out too big a programming lang for Formal Methods. It just needs to be a contract language not Turing Complete. Typical result of greenhorns working on industrial problems
[2017-01-22 06:59:36] ryvirath : not many people can use the languages that would work with contracting
[2017-01-22 06:59:52] thailand : ryvirath: you have xp in the field?
[2017-01-22 07:00:12] cz9emcu : Its like Java and the JVM.
[2017-01-22 07:00:15] ryvirath : some
[2017-01-22 07:00:37] cz9emcu : no one programs in bytecodes but higher level abstractions. But their VM is crappola
[2017-01-22 07:00:57] ryvirath : Tez0s will have a really amazing VM
[2017-01-22 07:01:13] Apocalyptic : "oh because Ethereum is very likely going to be the dominant public chain" I lol
[2017-01-22 07:01:22] Apocalyptic : hope you're not heavily invested
[2017-01-22 07:01:35] Apocalyptic : you're in for a rude awakening
[2017-01-22 07:04:09] stevenmst : MikeHunt: one of the requirements in the doc is: "payer anonymity during payment, "
[2017-01-22 07:05:53] stevenmst : its really interesting but its like... ecash before that was a thing
[2017-01-22 07:08:20] stevenmst : weird how btc allows for trace-ability of monetary flow while simultaneously allowing prevention of tracing
[2017-01-22 07:12:31] MikeHunt : stevenmst: apparently lightening should make it proper anonymous
[2017-01-22 07:12:51] stevenmst : you mean lightning network?
[2017-01-22 07:13:47] stevenmst : I guess it would, offchain transactions and all.
[2017-01-22 07:14:38] MikeHunt : stevenmst: yeh that
[2017-01-22 07:40:36] laisee : u mean LN with/without dynamic routing?
[2017-01-22 07:46:09] VenCap : Short today boys...
[2017-01-22 07:46:22] VenCap : if you want to lose your bitcoin.....
[2017-01-22 07:54:57] sda : anyone trading ETC
[2017-01-22 07:58:49] alejandromasari : I accidentally removed the indicator XBTindex from my chart. How do I re-add it?
[2017-01-22 08:03:31] MikeHunt : try switching to another chart and the back
[2017-01-22 08:03:42] MikeHunt : like to h17 or etc
[2017-01-22 08:09:13] VenCap : Straits will implement Lightening network, first alt coi to do so
[2017-01-22 08:09:20] VenCap : and Tumblebit
[2017-01-22 08:09:54] VenCap : https://twitter.com/PolyCoins/status/822959532506750976
[2017-01-22 08:19:09] Derreck : seems like 950 is within reach
[2017-01-22 08:25:00] MikeHunt : next funding is negative
[2017-01-22 08:25:06] MikeHunt : sentiment is becoming bearish
[2017-01-22 08:30:08] Derreck : The plan (#mBTC units) has been discussed amongst local #Chinese exchanges, & we believe it will appease the regulators, w/ "lower" prices. https://twitter.com/bobbyclee/status/823000703660457986
[2017-01-22 08:30:21] Derreck : Idea is that price increasing from ¥6,000 to ¥8,000 is a huge ¥2,000 increase! Whereas from ¥6 to ¥8 is a lot more acceptable. #BitcoinSplit
[2017-01-22 08:30:25] ryvirath : man, stratis hypers are everywhere
[2017-01-22 08:30:47] ryvirath : what's the point of implementing segwit on stratis. lol
[2017-01-22 08:50:49] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: are you selling short? sentiment bearish you say...
[2017-01-22 09:01:14] Tetsuo : Derreck: WTF Bobby Lee? is that a joke
[2017-01-22 09:04:51] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yeh, collecting funding for time being
[2017-01-22 09:12:04] VenCap : %950 today.. believe
[2017-01-22 09:12:28] VenCap : Stratis is a test bed for bitconi core dev to test important bitcoin implementions before adding it to bitcoin
[2017-01-22 09:12:41] VenCap : stratis gives the dev freedom to do these things, that bitcoin does not allow
[2017-01-22 09:12:50] VenCap : so stratis will moon hard at some point.
[2017-01-22 09:17:24] l3f : As my account get bigger my risk tolerance just decreases
[2017-01-22 09:17:25] l3f : sigh
[2017-01-22 09:17:35] l3f : I wish I was a young cowboy trader again
[2017-01-22 09:17:46] l3f : making big bets
[2017-01-22 09:17:53] l3f : tap that leverage
[2017-01-22 09:23:19] Papou : go long all in 25x l3f
[2017-01-22 09:23:30] Papou : pumpers are giving free money right now, ride is to 1000+
[2017-01-22 09:23:34] Papou : just close 980 and ur good
[2017-01-22 09:23:46] l3f : Papou: I thought you were short
[2017-01-22 09:23:55] thailand : lmao
[2017-01-22 09:23:55] thailand : he was
[2017-01-22 09:23:56] l3f : Just add to your short
[2017-01-22 09:23:57] Papou : low volume pump so it doesnt look like its ending
[2017-01-22 09:24:00] Papou : not yet
[2017-01-22 09:24:06] Papou : im short but will add at the top
[2017-01-22 09:24:28] l3f : Papou: what happened bro?
[2017-01-22 09:24:33] Papou : nothing..?
[2017-01-22 09:24:35] thailand : if you think it will go up, cover now and go long LOL
[2017-01-22 09:24:44] thailand : short at the higher price, lord
[2017-01-22 09:24:45] Papou : i dont like taking loses
[2017-01-22 09:24:55] thailand : you will lose everything soon enough then
[2017-01-22 09:25:10] Papou : thailand ill fund my account until a 20,000 btc liquidation
[2017-01-22 09:25:22] thailand : what
[2017-01-22 09:25:25] Papou : not losing anything buddy
[2017-01-22 09:25:34] Papou : im on cross margin
[2017-01-22 09:25:40] Papou : and 14000 contracts
[2017-01-22 09:25:47] Papou : with 8 btc right now in account
[2017-01-22 09:25:51] Papou : u tell me my liquidation price
[2017-01-22 09:25:56] Papou : idiot
[2017-01-22 09:26:13] Papou : pump this to $20,000 USD
[2017-01-22 09:26:15] thailand : name calling now, I didn't call you a name sir
[2017-01-22 09:26:17] Papou : ill glady lose 8 btc
[2017-01-22 09:26:34] thailand : how long have you been trading?
[2017-01-22 09:26:56] Papou : btc pumps to 20k, i dont care for losing 8 btc
[2017-01-22 09:26:58] thailand : equities, futures, anything...
[2017-01-22 09:26:59] VenCap : Bitcoin to 1,000USD within a few days looks like a good bet to me.
[2017-01-22 09:27:30] VenCap : Thailand you are English person?
[2017-01-22 09:27:37] thailand : yes
[2017-01-22 09:27:44] VenCap : Living over there?
[2017-01-22 09:28:16] thailand : yes sir
[2017-01-22 09:28:29] VenCap : Nice!
[2017-01-22 09:28:50] VenCap : my dad is over there now with his wife. goes for 4 weeks every jan.
[2017-01-22 09:29:28] thailand : it's an easy life here. Hence why I've been here the last two years
[2017-01-22 09:29:43] VenCap : forget the name .. Hau hin ?
[2017-01-22 09:29:52] thailand : yes, Hua Hin
[2017-01-22 09:29:53] VenCap : yeah not like UK, crazy here.
[2017-01-22 09:30:19] VenCap : and you live from trading BTC?
[2017-01-22 09:30:19] thailand : definitely
[2017-01-22 09:30:26] VenCap : .1 btc a day makes you king probally?
[2017-01-22 09:30:55] VenCap : whats your call on this BTC run?
[2017-01-22 09:31:05] VenCap : where will the train stop?
[2017-01-22 09:31:39] thailand : yes, the interest income from the short swap is more than enough to live day by day very well here. I just hedge on here
[2017-01-22 09:32:04] thailand : Im bullish long term, not a good idea to fight/short a deflationary asset for an extended period
[2017-01-22 09:32:14] VenCap : short swap. eg, buy and sell with $2 gains?
[2017-01-22 09:32:26] VenCap : good tip
[2017-01-22 09:32:57] thailand : short swap, long spot and futures on some other exchanges
[2017-01-22 09:33:09] thailand : still net long overall
[2017-01-22 09:33:50] VenCap : very good.
[2017-01-22 09:34:36] thailand : I don't know how long it will take, but for sure going higher lol. I don't try to predict short term
[2017-01-22 09:34:42] VenCap : what do you think is a reasonable number of contracts to hold at one time?
[2017-01-22 09:34:57] VenCap : $2k this year?
[2017-01-22 09:35:00] thailand : just look 1+ year out and increase my exposure on the net long position during panic selling
[2017-01-22 09:35:11] thailand : sell when we reach new highs etc
[2017-01-22 09:35:15] VenCap : good indicators
[2017-01-22 09:35:43] thailand : I like to only be net long approx 25% of my bitcoin a majority of the time
[2017-01-22 09:36:02] VenCap : 25% good number
[2017-01-22 09:36:20] thailand : going anywhere from 25-50% on big drops. I added exposure around 5500 CNY so right now I'm about 35% exposure
[2017-01-22 09:36:47] thailand : will reduce to 20%ish when we get close to the ATH, hopefully within the next 6 months
[2017-01-22 09:36:51] VenCap : 35% all in = exposure right?
[2017-01-22 09:36:53] thailand : yes, I think we see 1500-2000 by year end
[2017-01-22 09:37:04] VenCap : that will be nice.
[2017-01-22 09:37:21] thailand : 35% exposure meaning if you had 10 bitcoin, 3.5 is actually at risk net long
[2017-01-22 09:37:42] VenCap : perfect, i get it.
[2017-01-22 09:39:35] thailand : no specific aim for a return like most traders on here, 20%+ per year would be more than enough for me
[2017-01-22 09:39:57] thailand : could live on 10%
[2017-01-22 09:40:01] VenCap : i have set daily targets.
[2017-01-22 09:40:14] thailand : as long as they aren't excessive, should be fine
[2017-01-22 09:40:17] VenCap : small and steady wins the race
[2017-01-22 09:40:59] thailand : yes, try and be positive most months is all you need to do
[2017-01-22 09:41:24] thailand : will profit in the end anyways if bitcoin rises slowly and you can pick you spots to accumulate more on the way
[2017-01-22 09:42:23] VenCap : it is all about having more bitcoin and protecting gains when you make them.
[2017-01-22 09:43:52] VenCap : liek now bought more at 927.
[2017-01-22 09:43:54] VenCap : bargain
[2017-01-22 09:44:04] VenCap : would liek 925 also
[2017-01-22 09:51:30] l3f : Buy the dip
[2017-01-22 09:55:05] charlyko : 6300 and them go up
[2017-01-22 09:55:41] VenCap : agv down. looking good. 926 a steal
[2017-01-22 10:01:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 65 @ 926.75
[2017-01-22 10:01:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 300 @ 926.94
[2017-01-22 10:01:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 18 @ 926.20
[2017-01-22 10:01:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 20400 @ 930.19
[2017-01-22 10:02:07] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2017-01-22 10:02:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 923.12
[2017-01-22 10:02:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 923.94 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-22 10:02:16] bingbongfly : staph pls
[2017-01-22 10:03:41] Tetsuo : :bitmex: hi, how can i help you
[2017-01-22 10:03:56] bingbongfly : Tetsuo: not nice man
[2017-01-22 10:04:01] thedoc : Not again. Fell $15 then i closed my long for no profit
[2017-01-22 10:04:13] bingbongfly : Tetsuo: you gonna trick some newbie for their pw? ;)
[2017-01-22 10:04:30] Tetsuo : as a staff member i already have access to all your accounts
[2017-01-22 10:04:46] bingbongfly : Me 2
[2017-01-22 10:04:48] Derreck : 6400 again
[2017-01-22 10:05:10] l3f : Can you guys hold up the price until I'm am in USD
[2017-01-22 10:05:17] l3f : Don't crash this fucking boat yet
[2017-01-22 10:05:24] micmix : sure, we'll wait
[2017-01-22 10:05:31] l3f : micmix: Great!
[2017-01-22 10:05:37] l3f : 6400 is fine
[2017-01-22 10:05:57] micmix : ok, will keep it
[2017-01-22 10:06:59] micmix : let me know when you're done
[2017-01-22 10:07:09] l3f : micmix: need another 3 hours
[2017-01-22 10:07:11] BTCDJS : bitmex.png
[2017-01-22 10:07:19] l3f : until bitmex processes my withdrawal
[2017-01-22 10:07:46] BTCDJS : https://www.bitmex.com/img/emoji/bitmex.png
[2017-01-22 10:08:00] Tetsuo : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-21/why-bitcoin-etf-may-not-be-coming-any-time-soon
[2017-01-22 10:08:41] Tetsuo : :bitmex: BTCDJS: noob
[2017-01-22 10:08:57] micmix : BTCDJS: try : bitmex : without spaces
[2017-01-22 10:09:13] micmix : :bitmex:
[2017-01-22 10:09:34] Farzad : :bitmex:
[2017-01-22 10:09:37] Farzad : cool :D
[2017-01-22 10:09:41] Noobz : morning peepz
[2017-01-22 10:10:03] l3f : [XX:XX] :bitmex:: Hmmm
[2017-01-22 10:10:04] Farzad : all report tetsuo gg
[2017-01-22 10:10:37] l3f : Ban the hacker!
[2017-01-22 10:10:54] Farzad : I am short, plz sell XBTUSD :D
[2017-01-22 10:11:52] l3f : wow futes got dumped hard
[2017-01-22 10:12:50] charlyko : Farzad: me too. from 926
[2017-01-22 10:13:22] charlyko : Noobz: morning !
[2017-01-22 10:14:06] longbydefault : bitmex
[2017-01-22 10:14:17] longbydefault : :bitmex:
[2017-01-22 10:14:37] longbydefault : :happy:
[2017-01-22 10:17:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 8600 @ 928.50
[2017-01-22 10:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20 @ 919.74
[2017-01-22 10:17:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1880 @ 919.31
[2017-01-22 10:17:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3250 @ 919.85
[2017-01-22 10:17:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3400 @ 919.53
[2017-01-22 10:17:37] charlyko : i tolddd u. 6300 and fly
[2017-01-22 10:18:17] thedoc : 6300
[2017-01-22 10:18:46] thedoc : man. first i was made it bounced $8 after i closed my long. then it dumped $12
[2017-01-22 10:18:52] thedoc : mad not made
[2017-01-22 10:19:35] thedoc : didnt feel like shorting the dead cat bounce though
[2017-01-22 10:20:25] charlyko : well I closed my long at 6450 and opened a short. just closing the short now.
[2017-01-22 10:20:37] charlyko : I can spend the rest of the day playing steam. yuhuu
[2017-01-22 10:21:51] thedoc : should have known. hit 940 on bitfinex. close, short, close, long. oh well. got in a new long lower. time to wait for another dump where i close at break even
[2017-01-22 10:21:55] charlyko : I am working just in 3 minutes chart with bb..... is "easy" to see the entry and exit points. also if it goes against you is better to buy more contratcs that get liquidated or stop loss
[2017-01-22 10:23:24] Farzad : guys, how is the price on chart calculated ? it seems it is neither ask or bid price on orderbook.
[2017-01-22 10:23:32] charlyko : https://es.tradingview.com/x/RRAOEKgb/ this was my trade from yesterday to this morning
[2017-01-22 10:32:24] Noobz : Farzad: it is the price of the last trade
[2017-01-22 10:35:00] bingbongfly : these recoveries are strong af
[2017-01-22 10:40:21] Kinda : thedoc: there is the dump now we should test 1000
[2017-01-22 10:41:55] Farzad : Noobz: Thanks
[2017-01-22 10:42:55] Nooby : Kinda: stop telling bullshit ,1000 is not for now at all
[2017-01-22 10:43:46] Kinda : Nooby: why are you telling me bullshit?
[2017-01-22 10:45:24] Nooby : I said you said bullshit that's all, you said we should test 1000 but nothing shows that so stop trying people loose their btc
[2017-01-22 10:45:47] Kinda : Nooby: damn you picked your name well
[2017-01-22 10:47:33] Nooby : Easy to say that... show us why we should test 1000
[2017-01-22 10:57:44] BTCDJS : :BitMEX: how can I help today?
[2017-01-22 10:57:59] bingbongfly : Nooby: https://coin.dance/volume
[2017-01-22 10:58:14] bingbongfly : BTCDJS: Hey, I need password reset, can u help me? x)
[2017-01-22 11:01:32] Noobz : BTCDJS: Coffee, no sugar or milk, bacan&eggs please. And can you please make it quick I dont want to miss my flight to 6600
[2017-01-22 11:01:40] Noobz : bacon***
[2017-01-22 11:01:52] Ahhere : Nooby: support held in the channel since the big pboc dump
[2017-01-22 11:02:56] charlyko : BTCDJS: I will neeg 1g of weed. thx
[2017-01-22 11:03:02] charlyko : need*
[2017-01-22 11:20:11] BTCDJS : :BitMEX: ALL OF YOU ARE BANNED
[2017-01-22 11:21:24] BTCDJS : Except for bing bing bong bong
[2017-01-22 11:21:34] BTCDJS : he had a legitimate request
[2017-01-22 11:22:02] charlyko : xd
[2017-01-22 11:22:54] BTCDJS : :BitMEX: @bingbongfly please email support@bitmex.com and we will deal with your request
[2017-01-22 11:23:12] Noobz : no matter how you put it.... coffee is a legitimate reason
[2017-01-22 11:23:41] BTCDJS : True.
[2017-01-22 11:32:07] VenCap : going against my judgement and leaving my long open till we hit 1,000 USD
[2017-01-22 11:36:57] Nooby : Pfffff you people are trying to make other people that we will hit 1000$ you are Evil
[2017-01-22 11:41:47] VenCap : Nooby ? Not at all, merely telling people my trading plan.
[2017-01-22 11:42:44] VenCap : disclosure I am CRAZY do not do anything i do or listen to anything i sat. :O)
[2017-01-22 11:42:46] VenCap : Better?
[2017-01-22 11:43:12] rafaelnorman : u crazy vencap... i like it... what leverage are you using?
[2017-01-22 11:44:27] VenCap : x25
[2017-01-22 11:44:33] VenCap : 177k contracts
[2017-01-22 11:44:38] VenCap : entry price 927.18
[2017-01-22 11:44:41] VenCap : real crazy!
[2017-01-22 11:44:59] VenCap : "Get Rich or get Liquidated Trying"
[2017-01-22 11:45:22] Noobz : lol
[2017-01-22 11:45:34] longbydefault : go vencap!
[2017-01-22 11:45:48] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: hey, i allways wondered why ppl say 'pick the indicator and settings that work for you', like its a matter of preference? If we are to approach this in a scientific way, personal biases should be eliminated????
[2017-01-22 11:49:33] Nooby : VenCap: so wish U good trade buddy
[2017-01-22 11:51:23] Farzad : it is going down, jump the ship boyz
[2017-01-22 11:57:38] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: keep it simple. someone already did all the work by creating these indicators. And they are many different people who created their own. Because that's what works for them. You may fall into a category that fits the personality of any of those investors of those indicators. So pick what works for you.
[2017-01-22 11:59:39] BTCDJS : Are you an ichimoku cloud person. Or are you a moving average person, or are you a momentum strategy person? Etc etc
[2017-01-22 12:01:14] BTCDJS : *inventors
[2017-01-22 12:01:30] KyllingLolsson : Cant chat properly ryt now but thanx @BTCDJS
[2017-01-22 12:02:56] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: are u always here?
[2017-01-22 12:03:01] BTCDJS : I'm not asking you a question to get an answer. I'm saying that you need to explore these different indicators to find out which kind suits you. @KyllingLolsson
[2017-01-22 12:03:23] charlyko : BTCDJS: always says 100% logic sentences. I like him!!
[2017-01-22 12:03:52] KyllingLolsson : Puttning my baby to sleep ?
[2017-01-22 12:04:05] rapidtrades : wtf where are our EUR premiums man...this sucks donkey balls
[2017-01-22 12:04:54] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: have been lately yes. I don't usually trade directly after a big dump. I wait for accumulation before another big break out. But as this is the third drive I was expecting a bear market
[2017-01-22 12:09:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2400 @ 920.78
[2017-01-22 12:10:12] thedoc : There goes the premium again. Bulls never learn
[2017-01-22 12:11:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 29646 @ 917.22
[2017-01-22 12:11:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 916.98
[2017-01-22 12:11:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 917.12
[2017-01-22 12:11:17] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2017-01-22 12:11:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 400 @ 916.72
[2017-01-22 12:11:37] Derreck : second dump
[2017-01-22 12:12:36] bingbongfly : oh i'm starting to sweat here, let's see if 6300 hold
[2017-01-22 12:13:49] VenCap : ypu me too.. looks like rekt time
[2017-01-22 12:14:51] longbydefault : its going to recover vencap...
[2017-01-22 12:15:25] FreeBitcoins : Next bounce is your opportunity
[2017-01-22 12:15:53] VenCap : what price do you think guys... my rekt is 897.30
[2017-01-22 12:16:54] NeoXx : you're fine, my rekt is 910
[2017-01-22 12:17:07] longbydefault : vencap is 177k contracts
[2017-01-22 12:17:11] longbydefault : how bout you neoxx?
[2017-01-22 12:17:23] NeoXx : I'm 0.48btc :p
[2017-01-22 12:17:52] bingbongfly : https://twitter.com/YourBTCC/status/823137698865102848
[2017-01-22 12:17:53] bingbongfly : noice
[2017-01-22 12:17:55] VenCap : 910 id be sweating. i still think we wil lsee $950. today tomorrow
[2017-01-22 12:18:11] VenCap : there has to be sell offs. this one a little harsher than expected
[2017-01-22 12:18:27] longbydefault : i bought the dip for you vencap
[2017-01-22 12:18:28] Derreck : my rekt is 400. cuz i am 1x lol
[2017-01-22 12:19:04] VenCap : thank you longbydefault, i am all in this long
[2017-01-22 12:19:23] VenCap : 7.7btc looknig liek it will be a bloody sunday
[2017-01-22 12:19:29] VenCap : what charts do you guys watch?
[2017-01-22 12:20:12] FreeBitcoins : If you begin to see downbreak be smart and adjust your risk
[2017-01-22 12:20:37] VenCap : i did that for when i bought at 931.. 929 927 296 925 ..... now all in.
[2017-01-22 12:20:40] Derreck : down again
[2017-01-22 12:20:44] Derreck : 6320
[2017-01-22 12:20:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1000 @ 6319.3
[2017-01-22 12:20:59] Derreck : omg
[2017-01-22 12:21:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3000 @ 916.39
[2017-01-22 12:21:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2050 @ 913.93
[2017-01-22 12:21:03] FreeBitcoins : meaning you can sell some now...
[2017-01-22 12:21:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 21000 @ 914.90
[2017-01-22 12:21:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 22 @ 915.78
[2017-01-22 12:21:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 16300 @ 914.08
[2017-01-22 12:21:08] VenCap : this is fkd
[2017-01-22 12:21:21] Derreck : 6157 0kcoin min
[2017-01-22 12:21:23] bingbongfly : damn I lost a lot
[2017-01-22 12:21:25] bingbongfly : had to close
[2017-01-22 12:21:35] Derreck : 6170
[2017-01-22 12:21:43] VenCap : this is too much
[2017-01-22 12:21:46] VenCap : $20 diff wtf
[2017-01-22 12:21:50] rapidtrades : weeeee
[2017-01-22 12:21:53] rapidtrades : knock it to the ground
[2017-01-22 12:21:58] longbydefault : hahaha... oh no...
[2017-01-22 12:22:30] VenCap : why $20 diff in price here
[2017-01-22 12:22:30] charlyko : hahahahahah
[2017-01-22 12:22:31] charlyko : so fun
[2017-01-22 12:22:40] thedoc : 890 rofl
[2017-01-22 12:22:40] charlyko : 0.07btc fast and furious
[2017-01-22 12:22:56] thedoc : premium was like negative 10 there
[2017-01-22 12:23:00] thedoc : way to go bulls
[2017-01-22 12:23:15] VenCap : minus $20
[2017-01-22 12:23:15] Noobz : VenCap: Grab your balls man
[2017-01-22 12:23:16] longbydefault : vencap!
[2017-01-22 12:23:18] longbydefault : hahaha
[2017-01-22 12:23:26] longbydefault : its holding!
[2017-01-22 12:23:27] VenCap : mega rekt.
[2017-01-22 12:23:46] Derreck : VenCap: seems like ur safe
[2017-01-22 12:23:52] longbydefault : you can still make it... i hope you make it... i don't want to lose too
[2017-01-22 12:23:59] VenCap : no im fkd
[2017-01-22 12:24:06] thedoc : 4% dump wow
[2017-01-22 12:26:03] VenCap : well almost....
[2017-01-22 12:26:08] VenCap : probally in the next 5mins
[2017-01-22 12:26:34] Derreck : 6250 is hodling... or not
[2017-01-22 12:26:43] VenCap : i need to learn how to use stop losses.
[2017-01-22 12:26:48] VenCap : dumps here are epic
[2017-01-22 12:27:07] thedoc : china adding trading fees
[2017-01-22 12:27:09] thedoc : hence the dump
[2017-01-22 12:27:17] thedoc : more dumps once news spreads?
[2017-01-22 12:27:26] abz : next 12 hours is make or break for bitcoin http://zentrade.online/next-12-hours-make-break-bitcoin/
[2017-01-22 12:27:56] VenCap : thedoc old news
[2017-01-22 12:29:15] thedoc : you're right
[2017-01-22 12:29:17] thedoc : random dump then
[2017-01-22 12:30:01] VenCap : $915 USD bitstamp easy
[2017-01-22 12:30:15] Ahhere : lol always keep liquidation price 200$ lower than you expect dumps to come down to on bitmex
[2017-01-22 12:30:39] VenCap : good tip ahhere.
[2017-01-22 12:30:47] VenCap : hard to do with x25 leverage
[2017-01-22 12:31:03] Ahhere : tell me about it just rekt 5xbt
[2017-01-22 12:31:40] Tetsuo : thx for ur moneez
[2017-01-22 12:31:43] Derreck : 6200 won;'t hold
[2017-01-22 12:32:17] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: how does it look?
[2017-01-22 12:33:06] Derreck : 6180
[2017-01-22 12:33:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15000 @ 900.83
[2017-01-22 12:33:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 901.50
[2017-01-22 12:33:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 901.49
[2017-01-22 12:33:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 901.27
[2017-01-22 12:33:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 579 @ 901.60
[2017-01-22 12:33:20] Ahhere : Tetsuo: please spend them wisely I worked for years to earn them
[2017-01-22 12:33:24] ayy_lmao : 890 lol
[2017-01-22 12:33:54] Tetsuo : Ahhere: cocain and overpriced booze?
[2017-01-22 12:34:21] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: IT LOOKS PRETTY BAD
[2017-01-22 12:34:24] wingman : REKT
[2017-01-22 12:34:32] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: thought so, thx for confirming
[2017-01-22 12:34:50] Ahhere : as long as u happy just dont give it to charity or sth
[2017-01-22 12:34:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 150 @ 0.013187
[2017-01-22 12:35:19] thedoc : ya buddy xmr going up
[2017-01-22 12:36:02] pat : BTC dump over, trading fees are good news
[2017-01-22 12:36:12] pat : finally no fake volume
[2017-01-22 12:36:14] longbydefault : vencap didn't make it
[2017-01-22 12:37:26] BTCDJS : buy the dip
[2017-01-22 12:37:56] BTCDJS : Not specifying which market
[2017-01-22 12:38:03] wurstgelee : shorted the dump, closed below 900, longed @ 897
[2017-01-22 12:38:07] wurstgelee : i am happy so far
[2017-01-22 12:38:07] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-01-22 12:38:25] rapidtrades : you'll get rekted
[2017-01-22 12:38:33] wurstgelee : unlikely
[2017-01-22 12:38:40] micmix : wurstgelee: I'm afraid you won't be happy for long
[2017-01-22 12:38:41] l3f : Nah it's bouncing
[2017-01-22 12:38:51] rapidtrades : micmix: hehe for long
[2017-01-22 12:39:04] wurstgelee : micmix: cant lose, was a 100x knife catch, closed half @ 100% roe ;)
[2017-01-22 12:39:20] Derreck : Today, OKCoin, Huobi & BTCC all announced charging trading fees (0.2%), starting 24 Jan
[2017-01-22 12:39:35] wurstgelee : Derreck: sources?
[2017-01-22 12:39:43] enki0182 : wurstgelee: its true
[2017-01-22 12:39:46] wurstgelee : oh k
[2017-01-22 12:39:47] enki0182 : bout 30 mins ago
[2017-01-22 12:39:53] Derreck : wurstgelee: https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/823146829701259264
[2017-01-22 12:40:07] micmix : https://www.okcoin.cn/t-2504759.html
[2017-01-22 12:40:20] wurstgelee : excellent
[2017-01-22 12:40:21] rapidtrades : hahahahahhhahhah feees
[2017-01-22 12:40:22] Yuppie : Wow 0.2% is quite a lot
[2017-01-22 12:40:42] rapidtrades : hahahahahhhahhah fchina so ded
[2017-01-22 12:40:48] wurstgelee : nah, thats good imo
[2017-01-22 12:40:51] rapidtrades : sell it to the ground
[2017-01-22 12:40:54] Ahhere : soooo.. time to short?
[2017-01-22 12:40:56] rapidtrades : even 0 is not a floor
[2017-01-22 12:41:00] wurstgelee : should make china market a little less choppy and random
[2017-01-22 12:41:06] Derreck : Yuppie: compared to what? Polo has almost the same fees
[2017-01-22 12:41:09] rapidtrades : -1 bitcoin
[2017-01-22 12:41:14] Yuppie : Yeah but killing liquidity
[2017-01-22 12:41:28] wurstgelee : yeah. i think this is a good thing noinetheless
[2017-01-22 12:41:28] Derreck : 6200 goes again
[2017-01-22 12:41:40] micmix : stupid to do 0.2% fro makers
[2017-01-22 12:42:11] micmix : if my VIP5 doesn't give me any discount I'm out
[2017-01-22 12:42:13] Yuppie : Any exchabge trying to reduce fees...stocks futures etc to increase liquidity
[2017-01-22 12:42:25] Derreck : micmix: they have to make money now, without margins, and also please PBOC
[2017-01-22 12:42:36] rapidtrades : GOOD
[2017-01-22 12:42:49] rapidtrades : the golden age of bitcoin is over
[2017-01-22 12:42:59] l3f : rapidtrades: bitcoin died again?
[2017-01-22 12:43:03] micmix : maker/taker was invented for a reason
[2017-01-22 12:44:06] Derreck : dump is not stopping
[2017-01-22 12:44:18] l3f : Derreck: but this is the local bottom
[2017-01-22 12:44:24] l3f : dip buyers incoming
[2017-01-22 12:44:24] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-22 12:44:33] Derreck : l3f: yes
[2017-01-22 12:44:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8768 @ 899.88
[2017-01-22 12:44:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 899.69
[2017-01-22 12:44:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 239 @ 899.49
[2017-01-22 12:44:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 899.49
[2017-01-22 12:44:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 899.33
[2017-01-22 12:45:18] bingbongfly : so I guess ppls will be selling like crazy
[2017-01-22 12:45:22] bingbongfly : before they start to charge fees
[2017-01-22 12:45:25] bingbongfly : for your sells
[2017-01-22 12:45:42] Yuppie : why?
[2017-01-22 12:45:53] Yuppie : 0.2% its down 3% already
[2017-01-22 12:45:54] Derreck : premium is over
[2017-01-22 12:46:10] rapidtrades : sell JOE's longs, SELL JOE'S WIFE
[2017-01-22 12:46:14] bingbongfly : Yuppie: ?
[2017-01-22 12:46:17] rapidtrades : before the fees kick in
[2017-01-22 12:46:28] VenCap : well rekt. see you guys. sod this.
[2017-01-22 12:46:45] micmix : VenCap: blame the communists in China
[2017-01-22 12:46:46] Derreck : VenCap: u got rekt?
[2017-01-22 12:46:59] ayy_lmao : dat high leverage lyfe
[2017-01-22 12:47:10] micmix : "to increase market stability" lol
[2017-01-22 12:47:16] Yuppie : Why would that matter? Price matters...anyway seems an excuse to sel
[2017-01-22 12:47:37] rapidtrades : yuppie sell now ask qs l
[2017-01-22 12:47:54] rapidtrades : also it doesn't end here
[2017-01-22 12:48:03] rapidtrades : bitcorn regs are coming in china
[2017-01-22 12:48:14] rapidtrades : knowing regulators, they will crush it
[2017-01-22 12:48:35] wurstgelee : unlikely
[2017-01-22 12:48:38] rapidtrades : by stupidity if not by malice
[2017-01-22 12:48:43] Yuppie : Im with wurstgelee will be positive in the medium term
[2017-01-22 12:48:47] wurstgelee : mebbe by stupidity
[2017-01-22 12:48:50] wurstgelee : not by intention
[2017-01-22 12:49:21] wurstgelee : also china kbasically killing margin trading will lift a lot of downwards pressure off btc
[2017-01-22 12:49:23] wurstgelee : imo
[2017-01-22 12:49:29] micmix : it will be positive after massive selloff and bear market for a while, for those who survive
[2017-01-22 12:49:41] wurstgelee : micmix: if thats the case, i am ok with that
[2017-01-22 12:49:42] rapidtrades : lol no
[2017-01-22 12:49:46] wurstgelee : i survived 2015
[2017-01-22 12:49:47] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-01-22 12:50:29] rapidtrades : this is the start of prolonged bear market yalls are crazy
[2017-01-22 12:50:44] micmix : very possible
[2017-01-22 12:50:55] l3f : micmix: aye
[2017-01-22 12:51:04] wurstgelee : possible, but i dont think so
[2017-01-22 12:51:16] l3f : Anyways 20% drop is a decent shake out
[2017-01-22 12:51:31] l3f : 20 usd*
[2017-01-22 12:51:35] bingbongfly : bottom is now? can't decide
[2017-01-22 12:51:50] wurstgelee : world wide economic and political situation and upcoming events are bound to give btc a huge boost rather sooner than later imo
[2017-01-22 12:52:03] wurstgelee : things like france election
[2017-01-22 12:52:13] Nooby : OMG.... bottom I don't know
[2017-01-22 12:52:23] l3f : Nooby: local bottom
[2017-01-22 12:52:38] Nooby : If I survive call me RAMBO
[2017-01-22 12:52:47] rapidtrades : longs should feel lucky if 500 longs
[2017-01-22 12:52:57] rapidtrades : holds...laaag
[2017-01-22 12:53:00] wurstgelee : what?
[2017-01-22 12:53:02] wurstgelee : oh k
[2017-01-22 12:53:08] wurstgelee : lolz
[2017-01-22 12:53:10] Derreck : wurstgelee: also CNY devaluation is still a thing
[2017-01-22 12:53:30] wurstgelee : Derreck: yep. included in "economic situation"
[2017-01-22 12:53:30] wurstgelee : :)
[2017-01-22 12:53:52] l3f : Nooby: You will
[2017-01-22 12:53:53] l3f : I'm counting on you
[2017-01-22 12:54:06] l3f : it has to touch 1k before comin gback down
[2017-01-22 12:54:06] Nooby : Lol
[2017-01-22 12:54:09] Derreck : Nooby: what'st ur liq price?
[2017-01-22 12:54:19] ayy_lmao : you guys are funny
[2017-01-22 12:54:30] ayy_lmao : we pump $50, y'all calling for new ath
[2017-01-22 12:54:42] ayy_lmao : we dump $50 y'all calling for bear market
[2017-01-22 12:54:45] ayy_lmao : every time
[2017-01-22 12:55:18] ayy_lmao : 2 emotional 4 me
[2017-01-22 12:55:21] wurstgelee : ayy_lmao: has it ever been different?
[2017-01-22 12:55:22] Nooby : Derreck: do not worry my name is john
[2017-01-22 12:55:29] Derreck : premium is back lol
[2017-01-22 12:55:29] Nooby : john rambo
[2017-01-22 12:55:53] micmix : ayy_lmao: it's not the dump, it's the news that got people excited
[2017-01-22 12:56:08] ayy_lmao : how much news have we gotten on the past few weeks?
[2017-01-22 12:56:09] Nooby : Adrieeeennneee
[2017-01-22 12:56:14] ayy_lmao : people still flip flop