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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-01-21 21:08:25] narnarfromnarnia : i used to fight at williams stadium there [2017-01-21 21:08:38] narnarfromnarnia : thailand: soi nana? [2017-01-21 21:08:39] narnarfromnarnia : lol [2017-01-21 21:09:05] thailand : na, not into that scene, just the normal club scene is more my taste :P [2017-01-21 21:09:11] Rado : might meet you for a beer ;-) [2017-01-21 21:09:26] thailand : young enough I don't have to go that route lol [2017-01-21 21:09:48] narnarfromnarnia : thailand: well yea there's a lot of good clubs [2017-01-21 21:09:52] narnarfromnarnia : nana is for old geezers [2017-01-21 21:10:00] narnarfromnarnia : lived there for 4yrs [2017-01-21 21:10:10] narnarfromnarnia : but in krabi and bkk [2017-01-21 21:10:20] narnarfromnarnia : but i lived in boxing camps [2017-01-21 21:10:33] Rado : narnarfromnarnia: where are you from? [2017-01-21 21:10:47] narnarfromnarnia : originally ca [2017-01-21 21:10:52] narnarfromnarnia : us [2017-01-21 21:10:56] Rado : k [2017-01-21 21:11:04] narnarfromnarnia : but i prefer prague to live [2017-01-21 21:11:21] narnarfromnarnia : had asians for too long [2017-01-21 21:11:30] narnarfromnarnia : blonde czech girls better now [2017-01-21 21:11:34] thailand : narnarfromnarnia: how old are you if I may ask? [2017-01-21 21:11:37] Rado : Prague is nice [2017-01-21 21:11:43] thailand : too bad you're not in BKK anymore [2017-01-21 21:11:48] thailand : Yes, Prague is lovely [2017-01-21 21:11:50] narnarfromnarnia : 30 now [2017-01-21 21:12:03] thailand : ah okay, not far off, 28 [2017-01-21 21:12:04] narnarfromnarnia : i lived in bobay at a temple kinda near khao san [2017-01-21 21:12:16] narnarfromnarnia : all the badass fighters are my buds [2017-01-21 21:12:32] narnarfromnarnia : so then i would go back out to krabi and fight there and kick ass lol [2017-01-21 21:12:42] narnarfromnarnia : rado go see rajadamnern [2017-01-21 21:12:48] narnarfromnarnia : at least one night [2017-01-21 21:12:49] thailand : you stay here for training muay thai mostly then? [2017-01-21 21:13:06] narnarfromnarnia : yea but when i would get injured i take a party break [2017-01-21 21:13:08] narnarfromnarnia : or if i won too [2017-01-21 21:13:25] narnarfromnarnia : usually the farang with stiches on his face from boxing [2017-01-21 21:13:31] narnarfromnarnia : and speak fluent [2017-01-21 21:13:48] thailand : and on bitmex trading swaps and futures in bitcoin [2017-01-21 21:13:51] thailand : interesting world [2017-01-21 21:13:59] narnarfromnarnia : lol i was trading on gox when i lived there [2017-01-21 21:14:06] narnarfromnarnia : 88btc gone now [2017-01-21 21:14:12] thailand : :( [2017-01-21 21:14:20] narnarfromnarnia : but i did ecommerce and had a team in vietnam too [2017-01-21 21:14:27] narnarfromnarnia : so the timezone was perfect to live there [2017-01-21 21:14:33] narnarfromnarnia : vietnam sucked [2017-01-21 21:14:37] narnarfromnarnia : laos is rad [2017-01-21 21:14:44] narnarfromnarnia : go to vang vien [2017-01-21 21:14:58] thailand : gotcha, I only was there for a month. Hard for us Americans anyways with the visa too [2017-01-21 21:15:08] thailand : Vietnam [2017-01-21 21:16:38] thailand : I need to get out of here truthfully. Need to become a 'grown up' lol [2017-01-21 21:21:30] narnarfromnarnia : haha it's easy life there [2017-01-21 21:21:32] narnarfromnarnia : enjoy it [2017-01-21 21:21:35] narnarfromnarnia : thailfriendly it up [2017-01-21 21:22:08] narnarfromnarnia : but i know the feeling when it' time to go [2017-01-21 21:22:16] narnarfromnarnia : feels really good to get out for a bit too [2017-01-21 21:22:21] narnarfromnarnia : but then you want to go right back [2017-01-21 21:24:04] narnarfromnarnia : i wouldn't be in bkk though for more than a month or so at a time [2017-01-21 21:24:09] narnarfromnarnia : 2 max [2017-01-21 21:24:15] narnarfromnarnia : the country is much better [2017-01-21 21:26:05] thailand : yeh, I've been here for near one year so gives you a little perspective. WIth only some minor breaks in between haha [2017-01-21 21:26:29] thailand : minor breaks being full moon party twice and heading down south mostly [2017-01-21 21:32:07] rangle : is new year celebration coming up? [2017-01-21 21:32:38] BTCDJS : Last chance to get on the ETC train [2017-01-21 21:44:35] MikeHunt : rangle: in 2 weeks [2017-01-21 21:47:54] thedoc : i agree BTCDJS. how long can it go sideways before the buyers step in [2017-01-21 21:54:12] BTCDJS : could be soon. could be a few days. Dont really know [2017-01-21 21:59:01] Rado : BTCDJS: why would ETC go up? [2017-01-21 22:01:06] Farzad : Hey guys, what is this Stops tab ? [2017-01-21 22:01:15] Farzad : Is it for stop losses ? [2017-01-21 22:01:27] Farzad : how can I add a stop loss for my order ? [2017-01-21 22:03:20] rangle : theres additional order types on the arrow drop down next to market and limit order types [2017-01-21 22:03:24] Rado : Farzad: click on the tab, enter yourstop price, click buy or sell depending on if you have a long or a short position [2017-01-21 22:06:41] Farzad : Thank you for your replies guys :) [2017-01-21 22:11:21] Farzad : I deposited my first BTC into BitMex [2017-01-21 22:11:26] Farzad : wish me luck boys [2017-01-21 22:13:35] MikeHunt : Farzad: go easy on lvg [2017-01-21 22:13:38] MikeHunt : or get rekt [2017-01-21 22:15:43] Farzad : I have many years of experience in forex trading ;) [2017-01-21 22:16:01] Farzad : Thanks for the tip though [2017-01-21 22:16:17] Farzad : Actually I am going to use 1x leverage. lol [2017-01-21 22:18:06] Nooby : Matthias????? [2017-01-21 22:18:32] Farzad : Who us Matthias ? [2017-01-21 22:18:35] Farzad : is * [2017-01-21 22:28:41] BTCKing : 1x leverage? What's the point? Getting above 3x is risky if you don't know what you're doing (myself I'm comfortable with 10 - 15x) but there's really no point in not using at least 3x [2017-01-21 22:29:28] Farzad : It is just a hedge position [2017-01-21 22:29:47] Farzad : I want to minimize the risk of ADL [2017-01-21 22:30:09] rangle : can i hold spot XBT and earn interest on it while staying long BTC? [2017-01-21 22:30:34] Farzad : sure [2017-01-21 22:34:31] Farzad : does anyone know how ROE% is calculated ? [2017-01-21 22:35:28] rangle : https://www.bitmex.com/app/pnlGuide [2017-01-21 22:36:25] Farzad : It doesnt explain the ROE% [2017-01-21 22:36:36] Rado : Farzad: profit/invested amount*100 [2017-01-21 22:37:16] Rado : keep in mind that invested amount is not the same as nominal trade amount [2017-01-21 22:37:40] Farzad : it seems the invested amount is actually the used margin for the trade [2017-01-21 22:37:49] Apocalyptic : Farzad: it is [2017-01-21 22:38:07] Farzad : Thanks [2017-01-21 22:38:23] Farzad : Actually BitMex has the best interface in all Bitcoin exchanges [2017-01-21 22:38:34] Farzad : I wonder why it is not more popular [2017-01-21 22:39:07] Farzad : I know it is not regulated [2017-01-21 22:39:14] Farzad : bit neither is btc-e [2017-01-21 22:39:41] BTCKing : Farzad: Because it's not a Bitcoin exchange. Bitmex is a derivatives market. Also the stops on here lag like a mofo [2017-01-21 22:40:22] BTCKing : You can't exchange BTC for USD on here. That's why it's Bitstamp, Bitfinex, Kraken, BTC-e moving the market and so forth [2017-01-21 22:40:38] Farzad : I understand it [2017-01-21 22:40:51] Farzad : but for BTC speculative trade [2017-01-21 22:40:55] Farzad : it is even better [2017-01-21 22:41:22] Farzad : may be fees are lower there ? [2017-01-21 22:41:44] BTCKing : Fees are lower here actually. [2017-01-21 22:42:13] BTCKing : But like i said Bitmex isn't an exchange. The big exchanges have lots of volume too and deep order books. [2017-01-21 22:42:15] Farzad : I remember some people were complaining about fees of BitMex on reddit [2017-01-21 22:43:06] Farzad : the more people start ti use bitmex, a deeper order book and higher volume and liquidity it would have [2017-01-21 22:43:40] Farzad : I guess it is a little complicated for some novice traders [2017-01-21 22:44:29] Farzad : and as you said it is not an exchange [2017-01-21 22:44:44] BTCKing : Sure but doesn't change that it's still a synthetic product with huge amount of counter party risk compared t other exchanges. Myself I'm trading on here and Bitfinex I like being able to collect gains and hold them in USD if the market crashes. Here I can't hold USD only try and increase my Bitcoin holdings based on usd/btc performance. [2017-01-21 22:47:00] BTCDJS : Rado: https://twitter.com/philfrancis77/status/822444643199631361 [2017-01-21 22:47:36] Rado : Thanks [2017-01-21 22:47:37] BTCDJS : It may not. But I think it will because of hype. [2017-01-21 22:49:44] Apocalyptic : "But like i said Bitmex isn't an exchange" what [2017-01-21 22:49:49] Apocalyptic : of course it is [2017-01-21 22:50:45] BTCKing : You can only deposit withdraw BTC from Bitmex. You can't exchange BTC for USD and than withdraw/deposit one or the other @Apocalyptic [2017-01-21 22:51:32] BTCKing : I hesitate to call something an "exchange" when you can't actually exchange currency pairs. [2017-01-21 22:54:45] Farzad : Apocalyptic: I agree with BTCKing [2017-01-21 22:55:06] Rado : You exchange derivatives [2017-01-21 22:55:15] Apocalyptic : BTCKing: you exchange "contracts" her [2017-01-21 22:55:24] BTCDJS : Where does one trade derivatives markets? [2017-01-21 22:55:50] BTCDJS : St an exchange. [2017-01-21 22:55:54] BTCDJS : mic drop [2017-01-21 22:56:05] Apocalyptic : an exchange doesn't necessarily mean you can withdraw multiple currencies [2017-01-21 22:56:20] Apocalyptic : it has literraly nothing to do with it [2017-01-21 22:56:57] BTCKing : Apocalyptic: Well as you said, we do exchange contracts here. Guess it depends on what you want to define as a "Bitcoin exchange" [2017-01-21 22:57:57] Apocalyptic : I never mentionned "Bitcoin exchange" either, but it is pointless [2017-01-21 22:58:13] Farzad : Question boys, I opened my first position a few minutes ago and it already has a negative Realised PNL. is it the commission of the trade ? [2017-01-21 22:58:53] Apocalyptic : Farzad: correct [2017-01-21 22:59:27] Farzad : Apocalyptic: Thanks [2017-01-21 23:11:23] thedoc : lol i longed the top [2017-01-21 23:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 15000 @ 6372.8 [2017-01-21 23:14:34] MikeHunt : i warned the end was nigh [2017-01-21 23:15:45] sleger : what happened, did the price drop by 3$ ? [2017-01-21 23:15:53] Farzad : how do u share your trades ? [2017-01-21 23:16:02] thedoc : screen shots [2017-01-21 23:16:02] Farzad : type it manually ? [2017-01-21 23:16:27] Farzad : No, I mean like what REKT sent few mins ago [2017-01-21 23:16:31] sleger : that or copy and paste if you know how it works [2017-01-21 23:16:40] thedoc : or set up a bot [2017-01-21 23:27:24] aethlios : time stopped in btc?? nothing moving?? [2017-01-21 23:27:58] BTCDJS : Arch coin moving to ETC blockchain [2017-01-21 23:28:17] BTCDJS : aethlios: slow moon [2017-01-21 23:28:42] BTCDJS : from 730-980 [2017-01-21 23:30:04] BTCDJS : Ha! Someone froze trading [2017-01-21 23:33:28] BTCDJS : http://m.forbes.com/sites/debraborchardt/2017/01/20/5-ways-trump-could-affect-the-marijuana-industry/#137b67572ed7 [2017-01-21 23:33:52] BTCDJS : If only bitcoin made people high [2017-01-21 23:34:07] BTCDJS : market cap would be huge [2017-01-21 23:38:33] BTCDJS : People would buy in bigly [2017-01-21 23:39:13] BTCDJS : The support for bitcoin would be tremendous [2017-01-21 23:47:34] Kinda : If I get liquidated do I lose more btc than what it cost me? [2017-01-21 23:49:55] BTCDJS : No you only lose the margin you put in [2017-01-21 23:53:03] Kinda : The bull is strong [2017-01-21 23:55:28] thedoc : lol arch coin [2017-01-21 23:55:36] thedoc : is that coin still on bittrex [2017-01-21 23:56:38] thedoc : that shit went under 200 sat. LOL [2017-01-21 23:56:54] thedoc : i remember reading bitcointalk about people buying that shit. bagholders still i bet [2017-01-21 23:57:32] Kinda : What s the trend atm bull ? Trying to learn [2017-01-21 23:57:38] thedoc : bull yes [2017-01-21 23:57:44] thedoc : look at the 1 week [2017-01-21 23:58:02] thedoc : it seems like a big dump till you zoom out and see the price is way higher than before [2017-01-21 23:58:44] aethlios : this is a recovery rally from crash to 700, a slow volume retrace a bull trap, that's my guess [2017-01-21 23:59:06] thedoc : up 12% this week [2017-01-21 23:59:57] Kinda : Will it hit 1000 again you think ? Or it will retrace to sub 900 [2017-01-22 00:00:03] thedoc : gonna hit 940 soon. then probably dump a bit. after the dump then moon [2017-01-22 00:00:39] MikeHunt : thedoc: and if it doesnt? how fucked are you? [2017-01-22 00:00:43] thedoc : seems the dumping is over. hit $750 and then bounced to oer 900 [2017-01-22 00:00:54] thedoc : i'm long now [2017-01-22 00:01:19] thedoc : longed 903. closed thinking it was gonna dump. relonged 922 xbth17 [2017-01-22 00:01:48] thedoc : i'll probably close when xbth17 hits over 950 and short assuming there is a dump once 940 is hit [2017-01-22 00:01:56] thedoc : that's the plan [2017-01-22 00:02:07] thedoc : 940 on bitstamp [2017-01-22 00:02:44] thedoc : then probably a 20 dollar dump to test 920 support [2017-01-22 00:03:50] Kinda : Moon 1k2 than crash like before :p? [2017-01-22 00:10:50] Kinda : thedoc: xbth17 are the btc contracts in usd ? [2017-01-22 00:11:50] Papou : its not dumping [2017-01-22 00:12:04] Papou : support looks good so far, broke through 920 resistance [2017-01-22 00:12:15] Papou : looks like it will go back to over 1000 [2017-01-22 00:12:30] Papou : i would keep longs open until over 1000 [2017-01-22 00:12:49] Papou : i guess whales being generous and pumping free money LOL \ [2017-01-22 00:13:10] Kinda : Papou: wow a rally again , you changed your mind maybe btc comes from ppl [2017-01-22 00:13:18] Kinda : Average ppl [2017-01-22 00:18:45] sleger : Papou: are you suffering from schizophrenia ? [2017-01-22 00:21:06] thedoc : Kinda: not sure what you mean exactly [2017-01-22 00:22:49] kjzsbtby : Any ideas on btc? 8v [2017-01-22 00:24:01] bingbongfly : breakout weho [2017-01-22 00:24:20] abbey : Papou: u said u were short [2017-01-22 00:24:32] thedoc : 6451 cny. china trying to break it [2017-01-22 00:25:22] abbey : and btc dead? @Papou [2017-01-22 00:26:17] abbey : hard to decide, huh? [2017-01-22 00:26:23] Papou : nah they are giving a free ride [2017-01-22 00:26:26] Papou : im still short xbtusd [2017-01-22 00:26:31] Papou : im bulling future and cny [2017-01-22 00:27:10] Papou : easy money [2017-01-22 00:27:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 445 @ 921.35 [2017-01-22 00:27:36] abbey : i don't get you. But never mind, good luck to you @Papou [2017-01-22 00:27:37] Papou : ill take free money any day [2017-01-22 00:27:47] Papou : abbey i dont gamble [2017-01-22 00:27:54] Papou : my liquidation is 1800 now [2017-01-22 00:27:58] Papou : for xbtusd [2017-01-22 00:28:04] Papou : ill catch the short one day [2017-01-22 00:28:16] Papou : but they clearly are giving a free ride so they can get sells over 1000 again so ill ride it [2017-01-22 00:28:20] abbey : Papou: u don't make money either [2017-01-22 00:28:26] Papou : abbey my account has 22 btc now [2017-01-22 00:28:28] Papou : yes i do [2017-01-22 00:28:55] narnarfromnarnia : Papou: there's also a lot of leveraged shorts that need to close [2017-01-22 00:29:05] abbey : ok, good luck with your strategies [2017-01-22 00:29:05] Papou : they have [2017-01-22 00:29:06] Papou : into the walls [2017-01-22 00:29:53] BTCKing : Papou: How many BTC did your account start off at? [2017-01-22 00:30:29] Papou : ive made 2.5 here [2017-01-22 00:30:32] Papou : i funded it so i dont get liquidated [2017-01-22 00:30:38] Papou : and i can trade safely [2017-01-22 00:30:47] Papou : and average properly [2017-01-22 00:31:18] BTCKing : wow, break out. New 24 hours high :) [2017-01-22 00:32:02] Ahhere : BTCKing: yep [2017-01-22 00:34:43] paniktrade : no breakout, too many plebs shouting breakout :D [2017-01-22 00:34:53] paniktrade : self defeating prophecy [2017-01-22 00:38:03] rowrow : if everyone thought it was going to breakout, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy [2017-01-22 00:38:55] paniktrade : so everyone would be making money ! [2017-01-22 00:38:59] paniktrade : wow such nice market [2017-01-22 00:39:01] rowrow : on paper, yes [2017-01-22 00:39:04] Papou : it will bitfinex putting up walls [2017-01-22 00:39:10] Papou : 920 new support [2017-01-22 00:39:16] Papou : will test 940-950 [2017-01-22 00:39:17] Ahhere : paniktrade: bitfinex highest price since 2 weeks [2017-01-22 00:39:50] rowrow : you could sell slips of green paper and if everyone kept buying them, everyone would be richer on paper until the market collapsed [2017-01-22 00:39:50] paniktrade : Ahhere: by like 2 cens [2017-01-22 00:39:57] paniktrade : cents* [2017-01-22 00:40:19] rangle : you have green paper slips for trade? whats your price? [2017-01-22 00:40:22] rowrow : not saying that applies to bitcoin, just its how market works [2017-01-22 00:40:31] rowrow : $800, less than cost of a btc [2017-01-22 00:41:07] thedoc : ltc mining hashrate way up [2017-01-22 00:41:14] paniktrade : hmm but then if im selling slips of green paper that are worth looads wouldnt i become poorer? why would i give out free money [2017-01-22 00:41:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20 @ 922.61 [2017-01-22 00:41:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 922.85 [2017-01-22 00:41:33] thedoc : new btc high [2017-01-22 00:41:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 500 @ 6528.4 [2017-01-22 00:41:36] thedoc : should have 100x longed it [2017-01-22 00:41:41] thedoc : btc is king [2017-01-22 00:41:45] Apocalyptic : the moon is beautiful today [2017-01-22 00:41:56] paniktrade : rowrow: but i kknow what u mean [2017-01-22 00:41:57] thedoc : rip those shorting [2017-01-22 00:42:20] Apocalyptic : ri rapidtrades [2017-01-22 00:45:59] longbydefault : those with long position when do you get out? [2017-01-22 00:46:36] Apocalyptic : longbydefault: ask Papou [2017-01-22 00:47:03] longbydefault : i don't want papou's answer haha [2017-01-22 00:47:11] rowrow : i'll probably cash out a bit of profit if it keeps going up today, otherwise china will get me while i'm sleeping [2017-01-22 00:47:47] Ahhere : longbydefault: Ascending channel since bottom currently between 908 and 980 so somewhere before then if you have days [2017-01-22 00:48:01] rangle : we really cant answer that for you and it depends based on what i see in the charts, the answer now would be different than the answer tomorrow [2017-01-22 00:50:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 7 @ 6521.6 [2017-01-22 00:50:54] thedoc : 0kcoin whale trying to dump [2017-01-22 00:51:06] thedoc : must not know what limit order means [2017-01-22 00:51:25] thedoc : cause why put your sell order at 6500 cny when you can market dump at 6450 [2017-01-22 00:52:04] thedoc : exchanges should just remove market selling. if you want out then you gotta set a limit order higher and wait for it to be filled [2017-01-22 00:52:07] thedoc : only direction is up then [2017-01-22 00:52:51] rangle : lol [2017-01-22 00:57:31] paniktrade : thedoc: ehhh no [2017-01-22 00:59:21] goody5 : I will like to invest your most liquid XBT/USD. [2017-01-22 00:59:27] rowrow : thedoc: market selling is good for people who just don't care enough to either learn how markets work or just want to buy without hassle, also useful occasionally in fast moving markets [2017-01-22 00:59:39] goody5 : I have signed up [2017-01-22 01:00:10] Ahhere : goody5: thank you come again [2017-01-22 01:00:38] Apocalyptic : Ahhere: he wants to invest your money [2017-01-22 01:00:39] rowrow : come on china, take us to 6666 [2017-01-22 01:01:06] Ahhere : rowrow: I think that might be racist [2017-01-22 01:01:12] Apocalyptic : rowrow: why not 8888 while you're at it [2017-01-22 01:01:24] rowrow : first one, then the other [2017-01-22 01:01:31] rowrow : then back down to 5555 [2017-01-22 01:01:32] goody5 : How do I go about investing in your XBT/USD on your site details [2017-01-22 01:06:16] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead! [2017-01-22 01:06:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 4 @ 6516.5 :punch: :whale: [2017-01-22 01:07:17] thedoc : how are longs getting called [2017-01-22 01:08:46] sleger : winners ? [2017-01-22 01:09:08] sleger : anti-papous ? [2017-01-22 01:09:23] l3f : Is papous rekt yet? [2017-01-22 01:09:24] Noobz : secret noganoo? [2017-01-22 01:11:06] Ahhere : thedoc: there's always one [2017-01-22 01:15:59] MikeHunt : ETC not coming along for the ride? [2017-01-22 01:19:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 927.32 [2017-01-22 01:21:18] Battlebots : Hey Mike I missed you [2017-01-22 01:22:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 920 @ 937.00 [2017-01-22 01:23:42] MikeHunt : Battlebots: lol [2017-01-22 01:27:49] datboiyuan : YADDA MEAN?? [2017-01-22 01:29:09] rangle : no [2017-01-22 01:29:55] Ahhere : just broke 935 on finex ladies [2017-01-22 01:31:54] Ahhere : 940 the one to watch [2017-01-22 01:33:11] BTC-Noob : i have a feeling the whales will exit bitcoin soon and jump over to LTC/XMR/ETH/ETC or any other stupid alt and pump it to billions as well, just like is happening with small yobit alts [2017-01-22 01:34:27] MikeHunt : a dumps coming [2017-01-22 01:34:32] MikeHunt : just a question of wen [2017-01-22 01:34:35] MikeHunt : might be 950 [2017-01-22 01:34:39] Ahhere : BTC-Noob: I can't believe ppl buying ltc [2017-01-22 01:35:13] longbydefault : that's not a prediction at all if you don't know when and how much... [2017-01-22 01:37:31] MikeHunt : probably by the 25th [2017-01-22 01:37:46] MikeHunt : ~500cny [2017-01-22 01:37:48] longbydefault : down to 900? 850? 800? 700? 600? [2017-01-22 01:37:53] longbydefault : oh ok... thanks... [2017-01-22 01:38:08] MikeHunt : a major dump might take until february 2nd [2017-01-22 01:38:19] longbydefault : and that one will go down by? [2017-01-22 01:38:22] longbydefault : how much... [2017-01-22 01:43:40] yungyang : My man mike is a PROFIT [2017-01-22 01:43:46] yungyang : LOL [2017-01-22 01:48:41] thedoc : smaller market caps = easier pump for good profit [2017-01-22 01:48:43] MikeHunt : longbydefault: depends where it dumps from [2017-01-22 01:49:03] MikeHunt : longbydefault: also depends on choyna [2017-01-22 01:49:08] thedoc : ltc is the best because it's on every exchange. then XMR cause that's on a lot of exchanges and smaller market cap like LTC [2017-01-22 01:49:33] thedoc : ltc is the best because you can 20x long it on 0kcoin futures [2017-01-22 01:49:53] thedoc : while actually holding LTC so you get the benefit of it going up too [2017-01-22 01:52:57] yungyang : this nigga [2017-01-22 01:53:05] Ahhere : yungyang: lol [2017-01-22 01:55:13] narnarfromnarnia : there's a short squeeze it will be epic [2017-01-22 01:55:21] narnarfromnarnia : because no leverage to go short [2017-01-22 01:55:23] narnarfromnarnia : in china [2017-01-22 01:55:27] narnarfromnarnia : i think [2017-01-22 01:55:30] narnarfromnarnia : could be epic [2017-01-22 01:57:35] thedoc : yeah. so no reason for ltc to go down. no one is building a short in china to dump and profit [2017-01-22 01:57:55] thedoc : instead pump as high as possible for ltc and then dump at the top as you prop up the price [2017-01-22 01:58:44] narnarfromnarnia : http://bravenewcoin.com/news/japanese-internet-giant-gmo-entering-bitcoin-exchange-and-wallet-markets/ [2017-01-22 01:59:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 14 @ 6493.0 [2017-01-22 02:07:40] Apocalyptic : narnarfromnarnia: bullish! [2017-01-22 02:17:35] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: problem is they could destroy the bull run if they do that [2017-01-22 02:17:52] narnarfromnarnia : bull run is ded [2017-01-22 02:17:58] narnarfromnarnia : this is dead cat on 1 day [2017-01-22 02:18:16] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: i was thinking if we drifted down to 4-5k we could restart at a lower point [2017-01-22 02:18:21] narnarfromnarnia : or else it would have pumped way harder by now, lot of shorts above 940 will close they will fight to keep it down [2017-01-22 02:18:36] narnarfromnarnia : i opened a short on this top [2017-01-22 02:18:41] narnarfromnarnia : just a pump and dump [2017-01-22 02:19:04] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: after the dead cat, where do u think the bottom will be? [2017-01-22 02:19:28] narnarfromnarnia : i dont know i just trade based on signals from tradingview script now [2017-01-22 02:19:41] narnarfromnarnia : it picks buys and sells but not the tops and bottoms so well [2017-01-22 02:20:37] narnarfromnarnia : hidden buys here [2017-01-22 02:20:39] narnarfromnarnia : hmm [2017-01-22 02:20:44] narnarfromnarnia : those scare me [2017-01-22 02:21:44] abbey : if we don't go down soon, it's going to explode up [2017-01-22 02:22:16] abbey : imo [2017-01-22 02:22:29] abbey : big time [2017-01-22 02:22:34] longbydefault : do you mean a new ATH? abbey? [2017-01-22 02:22:35] longbydefault : how high? [2017-01-22 02:22:39] anonymous123421 : bigly [2017-01-22 02:23:30] abbey : longbydefault: can't tell [2017-01-22 02:23:45] MrRGnome : abbey: I agree. I'm not putting any money in this dangerzone until we resolve past 1000 or under 800 [2017-01-22 02:23:46] narnarfromnarnia : longs get rekt soon [2017-01-22 02:23:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40 @ 928.09 [2017-01-22 02:23:56] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead! [2017-01-22 02:24:04] narnarfromnarnia : MrRGnome: past 940 is good to go up [2017-01-22 02:24:21] narnarfromnarnia : daily stop loss for bots is right at 937 [2017-01-22 02:24:27] narnarfromnarnia : majority of bots [2017-01-22 02:24:46] abbey : MrRGnome: i think that's wise [2017-01-22 02:25:17] anonymous123421 : same ^ [2017-01-22 02:25:28] Ahhere : anonymous123421: ditto^ [2017-01-22 02:25:47] anonymous123421 : I have a long open from a few days ago, I'll keep it open since I have a tight trailing stop in place [2017-01-22 02:26:14] Sheriff : anonymous123421: What was your entry price? [2017-01-22 02:26:23] anonymous123421 : Sheriff: 902.15 [2017-01-22 02:26:55] Sheriff : anonymous123421: Nice! I'm always nervous about trailing stops - it seems i always manage to get called just before it goes back up [2017-01-22 02:28:00] abbey : my long entry price is 828 [2017-01-22 02:28:28] abbey : ROE: 610% [2017-01-22 02:28:39] Ahhere : abbey: nice I was holding from around there but closed out at 890 back in again now [2017-01-22 02:28:47] Ahhere : *long [2017-01-22 02:29:07] anonymous123421 : Sheriff: I'm usually pretty busy during the day so I like to open trades with a trailing stop so I can rest easy knowing that I am able to cut my losses or let my winners run automatically. [2017-01-22 02:29:50] Sheriff : abbey: Pretty close to calling the bottom, nice job [2017-01-22 02:29:58] Sheriff : anonymous123421: Agreed, it is definitely nice to have the security [2017-01-22 02:31:23] narnarfromnarnia : abbey: that's awesome [2017-01-22 02:32:31] anonymous123421 : Talk about buying the dip eh? [2017-01-22 02:32:33] Sheriff : abbey: What leverage did you use? [2017-01-22 02:33:13] abbey : Sheriff: actually my entry was about 760-780 first but i've been buyin the dips, so it's risen to 828 on the way. :D [2017-01-22 02:33:29] Sheriff : abbey: Even better! [2017-01-22 02:33:43] abbey : at first I used 50-70x lev [2017-01-22 02:34:30] abbey : also i took a bit profits on the way [2017-01-22 02:37:13] abbey : i have 2 stops under 900 [2017-01-22 02:37:49] abbey : just in case [2017-01-22 02:40:08] abbey : thanx guys, i'm quite happy. Lost about 20 btcs few weeks ago, now I've collected half of them back already. [2017-01-22 02:40:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 175 @ 929.67 [2017-01-22 02:41:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 18 @ 930.83 [2017-01-22 02:41:25] thedoc : New high [2017-01-22 02:44:27] Ahhere : abbey: great trade! [2017-01-22 02:45:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8200 @ 931.54 [2017-01-22 02:45:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2500 @ 931.60 [2017-01-22 02:49:36] abbey : Well, here we go gentlemen! [2017-01-22 02:50:50] narnarfromnarnia : just a little shake and bake [2017-01-22 02:52:10] aethlios : dumped 935 march okcoin [2017-01-22 02:52:52] aethlios : manipulators could dump to 710 in a day, margin call all longs from bottom. [2017-01-22 02:53:05] Battlebots : 20 pesos soon [2017-01-22 02:53:44] Battlebots : MikeHunt are you in right now? [2017-01-22 02:56:20] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: lot of shorts from the top also [2017-01-22 02:56:24] narnarfromnarnia : and no margin now [2017-01-22 02:56:37] narnarfromnarnia : what do you think? [2017-01-22 02:58:25] aethlios : I don't like this uptrend, is weak low volume no retrace, so shorts can't get out. up 30 usd, tight consolidation a few usd, then again etc. [2017-01-22 02:59:45] aethlios : more looks like a relief rally. [2017-01-22 03:01:37] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: https://www.tradingview.com/x/XJ9xmi30/ [2017-01-22 03:01:49] aethlios : Price up, volume down. No thank's whales, I don't buy it. [2017-01-22 03:02:00] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: ya i agree [2017-01-22 03:02:07] narnarfromnarnia : looks like dead cat on 1d [2017-01-22 03:02:33] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: also touched upper bollinger in daily. [2017-01-22 03:03:20] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: my daily stop loss right there [2017-01-22 03:03:20] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/T6QWh3XS/ [2017-01-22 03:03:26] Papou : I'm Long cny [2017-01-22 03:03:29] Papou : make me rich [2017-01-22 03:04:14] micmix : Papou: PBoC will help you with that :smile: [2017-01-22 03:04:30] narnarfromnarnia : i bet they found some real insider trading [2017-01-22 03:04:43] narnarfromnarnia : or some fake liquidity even though they had really good trading mechanism [2017-01-22 03:05:00] narnarfromnarnia : they would just use 200-300x to control the entire market [2017-01-22 03:05:02] narnarfromnarnia : who knows [2017-01-22 03:05:23] MikeHunt : "huobi official announcement: we are considering charging trading fees" [2017-01-22 03:07:24] micmix : doesn't matter if they can't get okc onboard [2017-01-22 03:07:37] Ahhere : its brief but it gets the point across; @MikeHunt [2017-01-22 03:07:43] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: price still moves quite a bit on low volume [2017-01-22 03:07:45] narnarfromnarnia : or it has in the past [2017-01-22 03:08:08] aethlios : if they implement fees those exchanges will become ghost exchanges. If they don't and with no margin revenue they will default. Will be funny to keep operation with no fees and no margin revenue available. so the story has more parts ahead. [2017-01-22 03:08:32] MikeHunt : aethlios: +1 [2017-01-22 03:09:00] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: i bet they used fake liquidity to rekt that whale with insider info [2017-01-22 03:09:07] narnarfromnarnia : and he ddos and reported them [2017-01-22 03:09:18] narnarfromnarnia : that 10M contract from ATH short [2017-01-22 03:09:19] micmix : charging fees will work if all big 3 okc/huobi/btcc will do it together [2017-01-22 03:09:23] narnarfromnarnia : very suspect [2017-01-22 03:09:30] Apocalyptic : narnarfromnarnia: this is a film-worthy scenario [2017-01-22 03:09:48] narnarfromnarnia : i mean gox was trading with fake coins for a long time [2017-01-22 03:09:58] micmix : non-Chinese volume will move someplace else but Chinese don't have any other options [2017-01-22 03:09:58] narnarfromnarnia : i bet [2017-01-22 03:11:26] Battlebots : Good evening micmix <3 [2017-01-22 03:11:53] aethlios : why kraken, stamp and finex have 0.20% fees? this is the level to operate profitable. so no margin and no fees they must be crooks, even mtgox had fees. [2017-01-22 03:12:39] micmix : aethlios: Chinese exchanges were making tons of money by lending @ 0.1% per day [2017-01-22 03:13:15] micmix : why crooks? now they will have to come up with another way to make money [2017-01-22 03:13:44] abbey : aethlios: you're saying they are not setting fees after this? [2017-01-22 03:14:34] aethlios : abbey: I say that if they don't set fees and also stop lending, then how can they explain their business model?? [2017-01-22 03:15:08] abbey : they will set fees [2017-01-22 03:16:28] rapidtrades : sup u crazy bastards? [2017-01-22 03:16:37] narnarfromnarnia : aethlios: because they're the pump and dump crew [2017-01-22 03:16:46] micmix : my guess is that okc will continue with 0% fees, they will poor money from okc international to okc cny in order to capture market share [2017-01-22 03:16:47] Ahhere : rapidtrades: bitcoin is up broski [2017-01-22 03:17:03] micmix : *pour money [2017-01-22 03:17:28] aethlios : narnarfromnarnia: will be funny to watch a pump and dump desk in action, making the plan and execute it. [2017-01-22 03:17:40] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: you would describe it as "gayass pump" [2017-01-22 03:18:06] rapidtrades : u got it brah [2017-01-22 03:18:30] rapidtrades : u are seeing the light through the hopium [2017-01-22 03:18:47] micmix : that's what I would do. they can probably lose money on okc cny for a long time bc they get make enough from okc international [2017-01-22 03:19:30] guacamole : does okc international only trade usd or is it both usd and cny? [2017-01-22 03:19:43] micmix : usd only [2017-01-22 03:20:37] guacamole : didn't seem like they had a lot of volume in usd to really make that much from it, not sure what there fees are though [2017-01-22 03:21:41] l3f : aethlios: how do you feel about the current uptrend? [2017-01-22 03:21:52] l3f : we're moving up real fast [2017-01-22 03:22:25] micmix : guacamole: okc international makes a killing on futures, volume is huge [2017-01-22 03:23:19] aethlios : l3f: like the Lost Legions of Varus [2017-01-22 03:23:21] guacamole : micmix: interesting, guess coinmarketcap isn't reporting things accurately [2017-01-22 03:23:47] l3f : aethlios: exit pump confirmed? [2017-01-22 03:24:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 604 @ 929.81 [2017-01-22 03:24:24] guacamole : must not include the futures market [2017-01-22 03:24:50] aethlios : l3f: I don't like this uptrend, a bulls trap, looks like a relief rally, bears will be back soon and dump it 200 in a day. [2017-01-22 03:25:21] l3f : I do believe this is the bull trap [2017-01-22 03:25:24] guacamole : yeah that explains it, didn't realize the future market was that huge there [2017-01-22 03:25:29] l3f : but I don't know how high it'll push [2017-01-22 03:26:35] aethlios : l3f: if we retest 700, things will get very bad technically. [2017-01-22 03:27:22] l3f : aethlios: I will call top once weekly RSI reaches 70 [2017-01-22 03:27:25] l3f : but we aint there yet [2017-01-22 03:27:31] micmix : guacamole: okc futures daily volume is around 200m USD [2017-01-22 03:27:46] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: weekly isn't for a few days though [2017-01-22 03:28:02] narnarfromnarnia : this daily could retrace and then ded [2017-01-22 03:28:15] guacamole : micmix: yeah just took a look, almost 100x the regular exchange volume, pretty crazy [2017-01-22 03:28:22] narnarfromnarnia : daily stop loss is at 937 from short [2017-01-22 03:28:31] narnarfromnarnia : we didn't make it there with much power [2017-01-22 03:28:48] narnarfromnarnia : i think guys holding their shorts want them to really go down and bulls have no leverage [2017-01-22 03:28:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 18 @ 929.23 [2017-01-22 03:28:56] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it! [2017-01-22 03:29:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 928.64 [2017-01-22 03:29:27] micmix : guacamole: that's normal, futures have much higher volumes on regular markets as well [2017-01-22 03:30:03] rapidtrades : aethlios: our EUR premiums are gone :( [2017-01-22 03:30:04] rapidtrades : GONE [2017-01-22 03:30:06] rapidtrades : GONE [2017-01-22 03:30:09] rapidtrades : poor [2017-01-22 03:30:16] aethlios : rapidtrades: how is the card?? [2017-01-22 03:30:30] rapidtrades : it's fine [2017-01-22 03:30:49] rapidtrades : EUR orders have been a pain to execute tho [2017-01-22 03:31:24] aethlios : I sold a lot above 900 usd for 6 month living. [2017-01-22 03:31:36] aethlios : locked a nice exchange rate. [2017-01-22 03:31:48] rapidtrades : took like a day to execute 0.25 btc...only executed it cos of pump [2017-01-22 03:32:02] rapidtrades : they don't take the top asks unless it pumps [2017-01-22 03:32:56] l3f : aethlios: set your dump targets at 1k [2017-01-22 03:36:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4650 @ 927.01 [2017-01-22 03:50:37] l3f : Remember the last time there were this many noobs on bitmex [2017-01-22 03:50:46] l3f : :') [2017-01-22 03:53:08] rapidtrades : PAY DAY [2017-01-22 03:53:14] enki0182 : is btc currently overbought? [2017-01-22 03:53:51] aethlios : Η&Σ ιν 5 μινθτε ψηαρτ. [2017-01-22 03:54:03] aethlios : H&S in 5 minute chart [2017-01-22 03:55:05] l3f : Nah we need some fud so I can buy cheaper [2017-01-22 03:55:10] l3f : Thanks bottom sellers [2017-01-22 04:08:57] aethlios : possible top here [2017-01-22 04:11:55] l3f : aethlios: nah sideways chops for abit [2017-01-22 04:11:56] l3f : imho [2017-01-22 04:12:04] l3f : too stable to be top [2017-01-22 04:15:28] ryvirath : the top of the entire bitcoin bull rally? [2017-01-22 04:15:31] ryvirath : that's madness [2017-01-22 04:15:48] aethlios : rally from 710. [2017-01-22 04:16:37] ryvirath : if it goes back down to 700 the bull market is over and crypto goes into a bear market [2017-01-22 04:16:39] ryvirath : I don't see it [2017-01-22 04:17:00] ryvirath : but shorters are necessary for fuel so keepdoing [2017-01-22 04:20:01] MikeHunt : i think this will continue until the trading fees officially kick in on china exchanges [2017-01-22 04:20:21] MikeHunt : then it will either dump, or go parabollic and then epic dump [2017-01-22 04:20:39] aethlios : back to 200, because of chinese exchange business model default. [2017-01-22 04:22:59] Ahhere : yes 200 sounds like fair value good call [2017-01-22 04:25:18] paniktrade : y so low here [2017-01-22 04:25:24] paniktrade : CNY is like at 945