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[2017-01-21 14:59:27] VenCap : Ok, so since you are calling me a noob.
[2017-01-21 14:59:34] VenCap : What would be good returns today for a noob?
[2017-01-21 14:59:47] sleger : one day returns means nothing
[2017-01-21 15:00:02] VenCap : ok a week then? i made profits every day this week.
[2017-01-21 15:00:24] VenCap : since i am noob and all... justwondering where my Noob skills are letting me down
[2017-01-21 15:00:26] sleger : oh a full week ?
[2017-01-21 15:00:28] thailand : more like multiple years with a 1000+ sample size of trades lol
[2017-01-21 15:00:32] sleger : a full week during btc only went up ???
[2017-01-21 15:00:35] sleger : newb
[2017-01-21 15:00:36] thailand : lmao
[2017-01-21 15:00:36] VenCap : i have only jsut started margin trading
[2017-01-21 15:00:38] VenCap : :)
[2017-01-21 15:00:49] VenCap : however been in crypto 3 years
[2017-01-21 15:01:03] VenCap : and made over 15x my initial investment
[2017-01-21 15:01:06] sleger : so you've been long, the price went up for a week and you made money so you think its a track record, got you
[2017-01-21 15:01:19] charlyko : VenCap: same to me with high leverage. was in kraken with 3x
[2017-01-21 15:01:27] yungyang : over confidence can be damaging
[2017-01-21 15:01:36] yungyang : don't set a goal to earn each day/week/yr
[2017-01-21 15:01:58] yungyang : set a plan, and stick to it. you will win/lose, but if your plan is good one and has high prob of winnin
[2017-01-21 15:02:03] yungyang : you win mas, si?
[2017-01-21 15:02:50] VenCap : no.
[2017-01-21 15:03:03] VenCap : but surviving in crypto for 3 years is good
[2017-01-21 15:03:12] yungyang : yes, that is very much good yah
[2017-01-21 15:03:17] VenCap : i have rules know how to stick to them
[2017-01-21 15:03:33] yungyang : yeah but the real question is, did you buy $DAO
[2017-01-21 15:05:35] thailand : Dunning–Kruger effect is strong in here
[2017-01-21 15:07:32] Farzad : Hey guys
[2017-01-21 15:08:22] thedoc : 1 week till Chinese New Year. i hear they are going to celebrate by buying bitcoin all day
[2017-01-21 15:10:12] Farzad : I want to know how much BitMex is reliable ?
[2017-01-21 15:10:27] Farzad : Can I trust to put it in my 10 BTC ?
[2017-01-21 15:10:29] sleger : on a scale from bitfinex to polo ?
[2017-01-21 15:10:51] Farzad : I wish they were regulated
[2017-01-21 15:10:53] sleger : I have a few hundreds here so 10 should be fine
[2017-01-21 15:11:02] Farzad : really ? :D
[2017-01-21 15:11:12] Farzad : you are so rich then
[2017-01-21 15:11:21] sleger : its all relative
[2017-01-21 15:11:26] Farzad : yes it is
[2017-01-21 15:11:58] Nooby : lol i trade with 0.2 btc ... guys you make me dream lol
[2017-01-21 15:12:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1000 @ 6420.6
[2017-01-21 15:12:53] Nooby : i earn less than 2.5Btc per month you can hire me for a lot of time guys lol
[2017-01-21 15:12:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 24 @ 917.81
[2017-01-21 15:13:32] Farzad : How often does Auto deleveraging happen ?
[2017-01-21 15:13:43] abbey : down we go, let's see how low
[2017-01-21 15:13:52] abbey : Farzad: rarely
[2017-01-21 15:13:55] Farzad : I am afraid I hedge a position and it auto deleverages
[2017-01-21 15:14:11] sleger : Farzad: it did happen to most people on the way down from 1.1k to 800
[2017-01-21 15:14:14] Farzad : making me exposed to market
[2017-01-21 15:14:28] sleger : i got half of my position ADL and could only reenter much lower
[2017-01-21 15:14:45] sleger : but DPE has the same impact anyways
[2017-01-21 15:14:51] FreeBitcoins : Hello
[2017-01-21 15:14:53] Farzad : Is there a way to make sure it doesnt happen ?
[2017-01-21 15:14:57] sleger : no
[2017-01-21 15:15:09] Farzad : even if you trade by 1:1 leverage ?
[2017-01-21 15:15:12] sleger : low leverage and losing money makes it less likely to happen
[2017-01-21 15:15:19] sleger : but there is still no guarantee
[2017-01-21 15:15:31] sleger : being short swap is more risky
[2017-01-21 15:15:43] sleger : as down moves are faster and therefore more likely to trigger ADL
[2017-01-21 15:16:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 8 @ 6391.0
[2017-01-21 15:16:07] Farzad : yes, it makes sense
[2017-01-21 15:16:09] thedoc : btc dumping
[2017-01-21 15:16:31] thedoc : i didnt close my long high and short
[2017-01-21 15:16:32] thedoc : nooo
[2017-01-21 15:17:46] sleger : thedoc: dont worry i heard chinese will buy all day during new year
[2017-01-21 15:18:04] Farzad : I dont think thats true :D
[2017-01-21 15:18:29] Farzad : I bought all my bitcoins 10$ eahc
[2017-01-21 15:18:34] Farzad : early days in bitcoin
[2017-01-21 15:18:44] Farzad : I even could buy them at $1
[2017-01-21 15:18:53] Farzad : I regret I didnt buy 1000. lol
[2017-01-21 15:25:40] BTCDJS : After reading just these few comments in the trollbox I learned something from sleger
[2017-01-21 15:25:47] BTCDJS : i mean shrek
[2017-01-21 15:27:35] charlyko : Farzad: you can buy now 1000 etc. is like btc in 2011
[2017-01-21 15:27:43] longbydefault : what is the lesson @BTCDJS
[2017-01-21 15:28:31] Farzad : charlyko: well I dont think it ever hits $1000 :(
[2017-01-21 15:29:02] charlyko : but yes in %return
[2017-01-21 15:30:27] BTCDJS : Not to think about making a quick buck. But to arm yourself with knowledge and experience where you can make a steady stream of money. And that its easy to make money when the price is rising so don't think you had any skill involved when you made money from 220$ to present.
[2017-01-21 15:31:27] BTCDJS : Don't get stuck on the little victories
[2017-01-21 15:31:28] thedoc : premium growing on xbth17 again. silly n00bs shorting a negative or 0 premium
[2017-01-21 15:31:42] charlyko : BTCDJS: not skill but vision! :)
[2017-01-21 15:32:04] BTCDJS : and don't get delusions of grandeur when you had a few little victories
[2017-01-21 15:33:12] BTCDJS : If you don't understand the system you are just gambling
[2017-01-21 15:33:38] BTCDJS : thats quite a lot for only a few sarcastic sentences
[2017-01-21 15:34:21] BTCDJS : so please noobs. Continue to challenge sleger
[2017-01-21 15:34:28] longbydefault : "its easy to make money when the price is rising" can the same be said when the price is going down?
[2017-01-21 15:34:35] BTCDJS : There's gold there
[2017-01-21 15:34:50] Farzad : longbydefault: if u know the trend absolutely
[2017-01-21 15:35:09] Farzad : bitcoin trend is usually bullish
[2017-01-21 15:35:12] longbydefault : then when is it not easy to make money? when it's chopping?
[2017-01-21 15:35:21] longbydefault : what do the experts do then?
[2017-01-21 15:35:44] Farzad : when u cant predict the market correctly
[2017-01-21 15:35:59] BTCDJS : longbydefault: it's not easy to make money. It's easier to lose money
[2017-01-21 15:36:14] longbydefault : what do the experts do then? im guessing they just stay away... when they can't predict
[2017-01-21 15:36:54] thailand : lend and let others lose their money
[2017-01-21 15:37:07] longbydefault : how do you lend? is it available in bitmex
[2017-01-21 15:38:07] BTCDJS : Experts are experts because of experience and perseverance to stay in the game intelligently and long enough to gain that experience. How long have you been in the game? Some people can't stay long enough to become experts
[2017-01-21 15:38:41] longbydefault : have been in bitmex for just around a week now
[2017-01-21 15:39:00] longbydefault : or 2
[2017-01-21 15:39:40] BTCDJS : longbydefault: so just make sure you manage risk so you're not game over before you learn anything
[2017-01-21 15:42:23] longbydefault : thanks... i learn a lot by reading this trollbox as well...
[2017-01-21 15:42:41] longbydefault : but need to discriminate between 'real' and 'wannabe' experts
[2017-01-21 15:46:06] BTCDJS : real experts don't care about what you think or don't care to impress you with what they know. The loud ones are the liars and wannabes. He who speaks doesn't know. He who knows doesn't speak. @longbydefault
[2017-01-21 15:47:52] charlyko : BTCDJS: +1
[2017-01-21 15:48:12] longbydefault : but does anyone 'really' know?
[2017-01-21 15:48:26] charlyko : sure they are
[2017-01-21 15:48:45] thedoc : i really know that btc is going to go up or down
[2017-01-21 15:49:01] longbydefault : that's for sure!
[2017-01-21 15:49:24] BTCDJS : longbydefault: the knowledge isn't in being able to predict the future but to know how use what's happening to your advantage
[2017-01-21 15:50:08] BTCDJS : And being able to lower the risk in case you're wrong
[2017-01-21 15:51:04] VenCap : good tip!
[2017-01-21 15:51:09] VenCap : Average down if you are long.
[2017-01-21 15:51:14] VenCap : Or avg up if you are short.
[2017-01-21 15:51:37] VenCap : EG: i go long at 920. It dumps to 918, i buy it. goes to 916 i buy it..
[2017-01-21 15:53:39] VenCap : and always good to go long after bit dumps EG: $1,100 to $700
[2017-01-21 15:53:45] VenCap : vice versa
[2017-01-21 15:54:18] bingbongfly : VenCap: EG: i go long at 920. It dumps to 918, i buy it. goes to 916 i buy it, it goes to 800, I get liquidated ;)
[2017-01-21 15:54:41] VenCap : hell yeah.
[2017-01-21 15:54:51] charlyko : XD
[2017-01-21 15:54:57] VenCap : but yeah, if it then falls hard... you need stop losses in palce so you dont have total wipeout
[2017-01-21 15:55:34] BTCDJS : Doesn't sound like a good trading plan to me
[2017-01-21 15:55:38] longbydefault : i buy at 600... it goes down to 200... i wait for 2 years and forget about bitoin... haha
[2017-01-21 15:56:34] VenCap : @BTCDJS what is your plan?
[2017-01-21 15:57:57] BTCDJS : Buy low, sell high
[2017-01-21 15:58:24] longbydefault : hey i have a question... if you profit from a trade... then you change the slider to a lower leverage... why doesn't the liq price change
[2017-01-21 15:58:43] longbydefault : in the display ('positions')
[2017-01-21 16:00:40] VenCap : is there a easy way to see your total profits here?
[2017-01-21 16:00:43] VenCap : like on poloniex
[2017-01-21 16:03:37] VenCap : or is it all worked out by hand?
[2017-01-21 16:06:14] VenCap : Can you see your P/L for set dates?
[2017-01-21 16:35:19] Kinda : btc bull again?
[2017-01-21 16:42:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 7 @ 6408.9
[2017-01-21 16:46:44] thedoc : xmr pumping
[2017-01-21 16:50:23] javierstone : come on bitches lets get it pumping
[2017-01-21 16:51:08] thedoc : btc struggling to go higher for 13 hours now
[2017-01-21 16:51:33] thedoc : 6350 cny doesnt hold then doom
[2017-01-21 16:57:32] VenCap : 6350 too close for comfort
[2017-01-21 16:59:21] BTCDJS : ETC
[2017-01-21 16:59:51] Tetsuo : FTW
[2017-01-21 17:03:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 100 @ 6357.3
[2017-01-21 17:03:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 913.89
[2017-01-21 17:03:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 913.45
[2017-01-21 17:03:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 913.44
[2017-01-21 17:04:42] thedoc : bye bye btc. see you back on earth
[2017-01-21 17:07:42] Papou : lol
[2017-01-21 17:09:00] idol : how low...
[2017-01-21 17:09:25] BTCDJS : bitcoin went from 700s to 900s now back to 800s
[2017-01-21 17:09:57] thedoc : $900 lowest probably
[2017-01-21 17:10:20] BTCDJS : 820
[2017-01-21 17:10:43] idol : slow drop to 850 you think?
[2017-01-21 17:11:05] thedoc : 6300 cny on 0kcoin will probably bounce then 6250 cny. after that it's a big dump
[2017-01-21 17:11:36] BTCDJS : Not sure
[2017-01-21 17:12:29] BTCDJS : but I think until the trend is broken bitcoin is going to play out as it always does retracing 50%
[2017-01-21 17:14:54] Kinda : we went from 750 to 930 so stop would be 820?
[2017-01-21 17:15:22] BTCDJS : Kinda: use fibs. Im only guessing
[2017-01-21 17:15:35] koolio : ok
[2017-01-21 17:16:16] Kinda : my deep learning algo says 820
[2017-01-21 17:18:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 7 @ 6363.3
[2017-01-21 17:19:48] thailand : my technical analysis says we will be at many different prices soon
[2017-01-21 17:19:49] thailand : http://www.followingthetrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Technical-Analysis.jpg
[2017-01-21 17:20:08] idol : lol
[2017-01-21 17:20:31] NeoXx : simultaneously
[2017-01-21 17:20:48] thailand : indeed
[2017-01-21 17:20:56] NeoXx : quantum bitcon
[2017-01-21 17:21:03] NeoXx : *bitcoin
[2017-01-21 17:22:04] Kinda : I miss flash crashes
[2017-01-21 17:22:31] MikeHunt : cryptonews was bullish but now says failure to breakthrough = dump
[2017-01-21 17:23:05] Kinda : link @MikeHunt
[2017-01-21 17:24:45] thedoc : see how long china bots keep price up. always chop chop chop
[2017-01-21 17:25:37] MikeHunt : Kinda: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-may-be-stalling-here/
[2017-01-21 17:27:18] thedoc : as usual. if i didnt dump my long i could have just waited and closed now when the price was higher. never pays to panic most of the time
[2017-01-21 17:27:42] thedoc : price almost $4 higher from where I closed it just a few minutes ago. yay me
[2017-01-21 17:28:32] VenCap : rocket back on course
[2017-01-21 17:30:06] VenCap : 6400 incoming
[2017-01-21 17:32:05] MikeHunt : thedoc: fomo is always bad
[2017-01-21 17:38:51] Derreck : 6400 seems unstable
[2017-01-21 17:43:58] thedoc : MikeHunt: at least i didnt short the bottom. now i wait for my next entrance point
[2017-01-21 17:46:43] Kinda : thedoc: the bottom?
[2017-01-21 17:46:54] thedoc : 919 on xbth17
[2017-01-21 17:46:59] thedoc : bounced $5 already
[2017-01-21 17:48:18] MikeHunt : thedoc: yeh i did that on initial collapse from 1200, :/
[2017-01-21 17:54:35] thedoc : yeah. it's nice closing and reshorting with profit. unless you are reshorting and it's the bottom. then rekt
[2017-01-21 18:14:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 5000 @ 0.001527
[2017-01-21 18:17:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 2000 @ 0.001521
[2017-01-21 19:03:18] narnarfromnarnia : Derreck: we're going down
[2017-01-21 19:04:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 246 @ 0.012010
[2017-01-21 19:07:29] KyllingLolsson : how do i permanently delete the .xbt proceline at my chart???? It keeps returning what ever i doooo
[2017-01-21 19:07:35] KyllingLolsson : priceline
[2017-01-21 19:11:34] Noobz : not sure but isn't that under the + on the left top side of the chart? the option to remove it?
[2017-01-21 19:12:49] KyllingLolsson : no i select "delete" but if i refresh the page it returns
[2017-01-21 19:14:42] Noobz : weird
[2017-01-21 19:22:23] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: i got the same issue
[2017-01-21 19:50:42] Derreck : btc is up
[2017-01-21 19:56:55] thedoc : etc is up
[2017-01-21 20:09:13] MikeHunt : i hope it hovers around here for ages
[2017-01-21 20:09:20] MikeHunt : 0.15% every 8 hours ;)
[2017-01-21 20:10:17] rangle : youre selling swap?
[2017-01-21 20:10:42] MikeHunt : rangle: yeh, i think this thing is going to crash soon
[2017-01-21 20:11:33] Rado : "crash"
[2017-01-21 20:11:54] Rado : MikeHunt: very newbie like statements all the time
[2017-01-21 20:12:22] MikeHunt : Rado: this whole bull run has gone on the basis of china pumps
[2017-01-21 20:12:47] MikeHunt : Rado: china has lost lvrg trading, fees are going to be reintroduced and potentially more regulation in future
[2017-01-21 20:12:57] Rado : and the bear run was on china dump
[2017-01-21 20:12:58] Rado : so
[2017-01-21 20:13:24] Rado : China is just noice in the large picture
[2017-01-21 20:13:28] MikeHunt : Rado: the loss of lvrg trading and fees being introduced devalues bitcoin by ~35%
[2017-01-21 20:13:32] Rado : BTC is here to stay and will go up with time
[2017-01-21 20:13:36] yungyang : no it doesn't mike
[2017-01-21 20:13:39] yungyang : stop saying that
[2017-01-21 20:13:54] Rado : trading fees will push BTC higher
[2017-01-21 20:14:00] MikeHunt : we'll see
[2017-01-21 20:14:03] Rado : because China will not be able tio manipulate price anymore
[2017-01-21 20:14:18] MikeHunt : im bullish on bitcoin in general but i think at the moment we are overvalued based on recent events
[2017-01-21 20:14:37] Rado : that's a different statement
[2017-01-21 20:14:42] MikeHunt : china manipulated it upwards, without that, the price comes down
[2017-01-21 20:14:43] Rado : much bette
[2017-01-21 20:14:44] Rado : r
[2017-01-21 20:15:11] Rado : I think we could trade in a range 700 - 1000 for a few months
[2017-01-21 20:15:20] Rado : then make new highs
[2017-01-21 20:15:31] MikeHunt : previous bull trends mean ran along ~5k
[2017-01-21 20:15:44] MikeHunt : support line
[2017-01-21 20:15:50] MikeHunt : the new one after devaluation is ~ 3-4k
[2017-01-21 20:16:43] thailand : it ran along 5k before going up. What makes you think it would break out of that range in particular when it held on the initial FUD 1 week ago?
[2017-01-21 20:16:48] Papou : you guys notice no big shorts have been liquidated? majority of the market is long
[2017-01-21 20:17:03] thedoc : ETC going for it again
[2017-01-21 20:17:03] Papou : why pump them into riches? they are being bull trapped and once the shorts start opening, huge upsets
[2017-01-21 20:18:18] MikeHunt : thailand: recent china revelations and normalcy bias
[2017-01-21 20:18:27] MikeHunt : thailand: bull run has lasted ~1.5 yrs
[2017-01-21 20:18:57] MikeHunt : it will take time for the loss of volume to catch up
[2017-01-21 20:21:08] thailand : yes, but that is why it crashed 40-50% already and held at the 5k CNY from near 9k
[2017-01-21 20:21:29] MikeHunt : that was on the basis that china maintained pump volume
[2017-01-21 20:21:30] thailand : Rado is the most logical guy in here. Bitcoin is going nowhere fast and through all time highs in the medium to long term
[2017-01-21 20:21:34] MikeHunt : china recently lost pump volume
[2017-01-21 20:21:42] thailand : yes, hence why it dropped 50%
[2017-01-21 20:21:54] MikeHunt : each of those crashes were caused by pboc
[2017-01-21 20:21:57] MikeHunt : not the new policies
[2017-01-21 20:21:59] thailand : lol
[2017-01-21 20:22:32] MikeHunt : the new policies started after 13th jan
[2017-01-21 20:22:35] MikeHunt : after the second crash
[2017-01-21 20:23:55] abbey : Papou: do you have open positions at the moment?
[2017-01-21 20:24:31] abbey : btc
[2017-01-21 20:26:04] Papou : short
[2017-01-21 20:26:07] Papou : nice funding
[2017-01-21 20:26:40] MikeHunt : Papou: +1
[2017-01-21 20:27:37] abbey : ok
[2017-01-21 20:30:04] Rado : I also think we can retest the $888 area
[2017-01-21 20:30:11] sleger : its good to keep positive, earning 0.9$ from funding after losing 30$ in price increase :D @Papou
[2017-01-21 20:30:24] Rado : he he
[2017-01-21 20:30:36] Rado : that is true
[2017-01-21 20:30:52] Rado : funding should not be a reason for a trade
[2017-01-21 20:31:02] Rado : but if you are short and get it it's bonus
[2017-01-21 20:31:48] Papou : sleger i went small position originally and loaded at the top its looking like
[2017-01-21 20:31:55] Papou : and im still only 3x leverage, nothing
[2017-01-21 20:32:00] Papou : and positive
[2017-01-21 20:32:04] Papou : and short CNY from 6422
[2017-01-21 20:32:14] Papou : and if it bull runs i long future
[2017-01-21 20:32:17] sleger : oh good, so you're not losing too much yet, keep the good spirit !!
[2017-01-21 20:32:35] Papou : im trying to make a living here dude
[2017-01-21 20:33:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1700 @ 918.00
[2017-01-21 20:33:40] thailand : LOL
[2017-01-21 20:34:12] Papou : still holding onto 20 btc as well to offset if we go parabolic 1400+
[2017-01-21 20:34:17] Papou : ill be alright
[2017-01-21 20:34:43] Papou : cant bull run forvever
[2017-01-21 20:34:45] sleger : yes because you're gambling only with what you can afford to lose ?
[2017-01-21 20:35:01] Papou : and go look okcoin, market is all long
[2017-01-21 20:35:08] Papou : looks scrumptious for a bearwhale
[2017-01-21 20:35:10] thailand : gonna be my new line for anyone grinding on me or haters in my life
[2017-01-21 20:35:27] thailand : " im trying to make a living here dude"
[2017-01-21 20:35:30] Papou : yea would suck if i lost 7-8 btc but ill be ok long run
[2017-01-21 20:35:31] sleger : "market is all long" what does that even mean on a futures platform ?? Dont you know there are as many longs as shorts ?
[2017-01-21 20:35:43] Battlebots : Good morning, friends
[2017-01-21 20:35:44] thailand : even if not wage or job related
[2017-01-21 20:36:29] Papou : when is the party crashing?
[2017-01-21 20:36:31] thailand : someone gives me a bad look in the future...
[2017-01-21 20:36:32] thailand : "I'm trying to make a living here dude"
[2017-01-21 20:36:35] Papou : its funny because pumps are like 30$ a time
[2017-01-21 20:36:38] Papou : dumps are $100+
[2017-01-21 20:37:00] Papou : we have to test 880 support
[2017-01-21 20:37:07] Papou : my shorts close in good profit at 880
[2017-01-21 20:37:16] thailand : yes, you can make a living that way
[2017-01-21 20:37:32] sleger : except when it went from 1030 to 1160
[2017-01-21 20:38:04] Papou : for a second
[2017-01-21 20:38:09] Papou : and only on cny exchanges
[2017-01-21 20:38:17] Papou : bitmiex bitfiniex low 1000 still
[2017-01-21 20:38:23] Papou : it was an exit pump
[2017-01-21 20:38:34] Papou : now they fluffing the market to absorb the margin books closing
[2017-01-21 20:38:39] Papou : then its a sell off due to no volume
[2017-01-21 20:38:44] sleger : sorry to crush your dreams but finex went to 1166
[2017-01-21 20:38:56] Papou : and then panic, massive sell off and we re accumulate
[2017-01-21 20:38:59] Papou : low
[2017-01-21 20:39:46] Papou : still no official word from pboc
[2017-01-21 20:39:58] sleger : its saturday ...
[2017-01-21 20:40:04] Papou : but what we do know is the exchanges arent complying fully, especially BTCC, completely still 100% offering margin
[2017-01-21 20:40:24] Papou : pboc will want to look strong, not weak, will hammer the exchanges, bitcoin dead.
[2017-01-21 20:40:40] thailand : LOL
[2017-01-21 20:40:52] Rado : Papou: why would bitcoin be dead if Chinese exchanges are hammered?
[2017-01-21 20:40:53] thailand : you were just saying we accumulate after massive sell off
[2017-01-21 20:40:55] thailand : now bitcoin is dead
[2017-01-21 20:40:56] Rado : don't follow the logic
[2017-01-21 20:40:58] Papou : bulls will forever eat ramen noodles for life
[2017-01-21 20:41:00] sleger : you should try making a living by being a clown @Papou
[2017-01-21 20:41:09] MikeHunt : well offering internationals margin isnt necessarily against the rules
[2017-01-21 20:41:18] thailand : lmao
[2017-01-21 20:41:30] Papou : rado because go look at the volume. you know coinmarketcap doesnt include it in the average because its all manipulated. scroll down to the ok coin and btcc and huobi btc/cny and see the volume
[2017-01-21 20:41:33] MikeHunt : as long as chinese citizens cant have margin then technically they are doing what pboc said
[2017-01-21 20:41:35] Papou : what do u think when that stops
[2017-01-21 20:41:39] Papou : bitfinex doing 11 mil a day
[2017-01-21 20:41:48] Papou : ok doin, 330, hubo 200m, btcc 400 m
[2017-01-21 20:41:55] Papou : its insane
[2017-01-21 20:42:00] Papou : all from futures
[2017-01-21 20:42:15] Papou : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btcusd-quarterly-futures/5m
[2017-01-21 20:42:16] Rado : Papou: volume doesn't make price go up
[2017-01-21 20:42:19] Papou : go look at that volume
[2017-01-21 20:42:22] Papou : are u kidding me rado
[2017-01-21 20:42:23] Rado : people buying and holding does
[2017-01-21 20:42:26] Papou : do u know where the moves are mad?
[2017-01-21 20:42:36] Papou : look at the volume
[2017-01-21 20:42:39] Papou : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btcusd-quarterly-futures/5m
[2017-01-21 20:42:45] Rado : you can have very low volume and price can still go up if no one is selling
[2017-01-21 20:42:46] Papou : u gotta fix the woodchipper
[2017-01-21 20:42:50] thailand : how did you get a hold of 14 btc papou?
[2017-01-21 20:42:53] Papou : no rado go look
[2017-01-21 20:43:01] Rado : look what?
[2017-01-21 20:43:02] Papou : they are trading 1000 btc walls like nothing
[2017-01-21 20:43:08] Papou : i saw a 15000 btc wall
[2017-01-21 20:43:15] Rado : volume means nothing without knowing how much of it is buys and how much is sells
[2017-01-21 20:43:17] sleger : easy to do with 0 fee
[2017-01-21 20:43:20] Papou : exactly
[2017-01-21 20:43:23] Rado : if they are 50/50 price will be the same
[2017-01-21 20:43:26] Papou : sleger what happens when fees imposed
[2017-01-21 20:43:33] sleger : volume goes down
[2017-01-21 20:43:33] Papou : and margins not offered?
[2017-01-21 20:43:40] Papou : cant sustain 300million daily volume per exchange
[2017-01-21 20:43:44] Papou : the bubble pops
[2017-01-21 20:43:50] MikeHunt : ~35% drop in volume according to calculations by coindesk iirc
[2017-01-21 20:43:56] sleger : ^ logic error
[2017-01-21 20:43:58] Papou : bro people dont even know about btc
[2017-01-21 20:44:02] Papou : u guys are dumb
[2017-01-21 20:44:07] sleger : volume nothing to do with price
[2017-01-21 20:44:11] Papou : china margin is the reason its in the billions guys
[2017-01-21 20:44:16] Papou : go look at the link
[2017-01-21 20:44:16] thailand : LOL
[2017-01-21 20:44:19] thailand : oh lordy lordy
[2017-01-21 20:44:28] Papou : https://cryptowat.ch/ok coin/btcusd-quarterly-futures/5m
[2017-01-21 20:44:32] Rado : Papou: go back to school, need to learn more about the world
[2017-01-21 20:44:32] Papou : fix the space
[2017-01-21 20:44:36] Papou : plz go look rado
[2017-01-21 20:44:38] Papou : watch the volume
[2017-01-21 20:44:39] thedoc : china going for a new high
[2017-01-21 20:44:47] thedoc : dumpers running low on their limited supply of BTC
[2017-01-21 20:44:56] thedoc : unlimited fiat wins again
[2017-01-21 20:45:50] Papou : no thedoc
[2017-01-21 20:45:57] Papou : the bitcoin volume comes from the link im posting, just fix the space
[2017-01-21 20:46:04] Papou : because of the ok coin sensor
[2017-01-21 20:46:11] MikeHunt : i hope it stays where it is for a while so i can get more funding from delusional longs
[2017-01-21 20:46:12] Papou : ok coin cant be spaced
[2017-01-21 20:46:20] Papou : watch the volume there
[2017-01-21 20:46:24] Papou : thats btc
[2017-01-21 20:46:50] Papou : u watching the link rado?
[2017-01-21 20:47:15] sleger : volume might go down, but price ???
[2017-01-21 20:47:18] MikeHunt : im not even sure if a 1x short will be safe once this comes down
[2017-01-21 20:47:56] MikeHunt : the harder this gets pumped, the harder it will come down
[2017-01-21 20:48:25] Papou : exactly
[2017-01-21 20:48:45] Papou : price will go down bro because people cash btc to fiat
[2017-01-21 20:48:47] Papou : they have to
[2017-01-21 20:48:51] Papou : especially the miners
[2017-01-21 20:49:00] sleger : lol
[2017-01-21 20:49:00] Papou : they are milking this until pboc comes out with the official rules
[2017-01-21 20:49:05] sleger : so many stupid arguments
[2017-01-21 20:49:06] Papou : and it will be soul crushing
[2017-01-21 20:49:09] sleger : you're a real clown
[2017-01-21 20:49:15] narnarfromnarnia : 140k ask
[2017-01-21 20:49:15] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-21 20:49:18] Papou : u are for thinking u will get pumped to riches bro
[2017-01-21 20:49:19] narnarfromnarnia : what's going on
[2017-01-21 20:49:20] Papou : good job
[2017-01-21 20:49:22] Papou : free rides
[2017-01-21 20:49:25] Papou : typical americans
[2017-01-21 20:49:41] MikeHunt : sledger, people resort to slander when they dont have a counter argument
[2017-01-21 20:49:46] thailand : hogs get slaughtered. So do bears if they think high prices need high volumes rofl
[2017-01-21 20:49:52] sleger : MikeHunt: learn how to type
[2017-01-21 20:50:00] sleger : he ignores logic
[2017-01-21 20:50:04] sleger : just like you
[2017-01-21 20:50:13] MikeHunt : sleger: post a counter-argument or remain irrelevant
[2017-01-21 20:50:22] MikeHunt : simply calling people names isnt enough
[2017-01-21 20:50:22] sleger : good thing is in 2 weeks you both wont be here
[2017-01-21 20:50:25] Papou : no sleger
[2017-01-21 20:50:29] sleger : MikeHunt: i did earlier
[2017-01-21 20:50:31] Rado : ha ha
[2017-01-21 20:50:37] Papou : because you dont understand what a 15000 btc dump will do
[2017-01-21 20:50:58] Papou : once china gets out
[2017-01-21 20:51:07] Rado : sleger: I keep watching the chat users go up 100 and down 100. Fluctuating between 600 and 900
[2017-01-21 20:51:08] Papou : the west will rebuild it properly
[2017-01-21 20:51:12] thailand : you don't even need a dump for your position. You're closing it at 880, that is like 5% from the current price
[2017-01-21 20:51:16] Papou : but china pumped this from $1 to $1000
[2017-01-21 20:51:23] sleger : a 15k dump would probably crash the price ~ 150$
[2017-01-21 20:51:28] sleger : by 150$
[2017-01-21 20:51:38] Papou : the whole market is long
[2017-01-21 20:51:54] Papou : why would someone go "hmm, every single person is long, let me start market buying these people into riches"
[2017-01-21 20:51:56] thailand : oh rly?
[2017-01-21 20:51:56] Papou : u mad?
[2017-01-21 20:51:56] sleger : Papou: nobody is short any future ?
[2017-01-21 20:52:07] Papou : means shorts havent started
[2017-01-21 20:52:16] Rado : I wish BitMEX will have the userID next to the name so we know how "new" each user is
[2017-01-21 20:52:22] sleger : nobody short any future ? answer @Papou
[2017-01-21 20:52:26] thailand : whole market is long, but we aren't at 1,000,000
[2017-01-21 20:52:39] thailand : scratching my head
[2017-01-21 20:53:29] thailand : whole market is long with no volume, got it. Crash imminent...
[2017-01-21 20:53:50] Rado : BTC price can not go down with central banks printing like mad. It's impossible since you can't inflate BTC
[2017-01-21 20:54:12] MikeHunt : Rado: you inflate it with irrational hope
[2017-01-21 20:54:12] Rado : Fiat is dead
[2017-01-21 20:54:27] Rado : even if it's designed to be this way
[2017-01-21 20:54:29] Papou : fiat isnt dead bro
[2017-01-21 20:54:30] Papou : lol
[2017-01-21 20:54:32] Papou : u mad
[2017-01-21 20:54:33] Rado : that's the reality
[2017-01-21 20:54:43] MikeHunt : china can back yuan with gold anytime they choose
[2017-01-21 20:54:49] BTCDJS : FIAT is DEAD
[2017-01-21 20:55:01] Rado : MikeHunt: tehy can't
[2017-01-21 20:55:06] MikeHunt : Rado: y not?
[2017-01-21 20:55:09] Papou : whalebear is coming guys
[2017-01-21 20:55:14] Papou : he will eat ur babies
[2017-01-21 20:55:22] Rado : not enough Gold to back Trillions of Yuan
[2017-01-21 20:55:30] sleger : Papou: you still think almost nobody is short futures, that there are only longs ?
[2017-01-21 20:55:46] MikeHunt : Rado: china has a lot more gold imo than they admit to
[2017-01-21 20:55:59] Papou : yep, i saw a 15,000 btc wall at 920
[2017-01-21 20:56:00] thedoc : yes no one is short on futures. only long
[2017-01-21 20:56:02] Rado : sleger: he probably doesn't even know what futures are
[2017-01-21 20:56:04] Papou : it got pulled then price moved
[2017-01-21 20:56:08] sleger : your opinions are also bitcoin is either 80k or 400 ... @MikeHunt
[2017-01-21 20:56:11] Papou : they pumping this
[2017-01-21 20:56:17] Papou : and about to dump on rado's chest
[2017-01-21 20:56:20] thailand : LOL
[2017-01-21 20:56:21] Papou : nice and warm '
[2017-01-21 20:56:33] MikeHunt : sleger: looking like $400 atm
[2017-01-21 20:56:37] thailand : 400 then 80k Mike?
[2017-01-21 20:56:43] Rado : Papou: post some of your trades in here
[2017-01-21 20:56:50] MikeHunt : thailand: yep, the launch pad is at $400
[2017-01-21 20:56:57] MikeHunt : ;)
[2017-01-21 20:57:04] narnarfromnarnia : bull trap
[2017-01-21 20:57:05] CaptainDean : Papou: you know jackshit what is going to happen that's prettty much it
[2017-01-21 20:57:05] sleger : thank you as usual @MikeHunt Do you not realize that everyone makes fun of you ? It's not just me...
[2017-01-21 20:57:20] MikeHunt : sleger: yes there are many cunts around here
[2017-01-21 20:57:57] Rado : MikeHunt: how old are you?
[2017-01-21 20:58:07] MikeHunt : Rado: old enough to bang yo mom
[2017-01-21 20:58:16] sleger : ^ what i thought
[2017-01-21 20:58:18] MikeHunt : but young enough for it to seem weird
[2017-01-21 20:58:21] sleger : 21?
[2017-01-21 20:58:21] thailand : the man was just asking you lol
[2017-01-21 20:58:45] Rado : you sound very inexperienced, but not sure if you are just yang or dumb
[2017-01-21 20:59:23] Rado : hope you are not over 25
[2017-01-21 21:01:41] Rado : Allegedly, the People's Bank of China is researching RMBCoin, their own centralized altcoin. You can't even make this up.. $RMB
[2017-01-21 21:01:47] Rado : https://twitter.com/CollinCrypto/status/822622316882460674
[2017-01-21 21:03:51] Rado : Papou: Shorted at $912, but had to cover $921. Going long now at $921 so I can sell at $915
[2017-01-21 21:04:19] Rado : sleger: where is our friend rapid?
[2017-01-21 21:04:21] thailand : lmao
[2017-01-21 21:04:51] Rado : thailand: are you from Thailand or just a nikcname?
[2017-01-21 21:05:29] thailand : Rado: I live here now, but I am not Thai
[2017-01-21 21:05:39] Rado : cool
[2017-01-21 21:05:43] Rado : I will be there in March
[2017-01-21 21:06:23] Rado : Koh Lanta, Krabi, Koh Samui, Koh Pangang, Bangkok and Chang Mai
[2017-01-21 21:06:23] narnarfromnarnia : Rado: you booked your trip?
[2017-01-21 21:06:46] narnarfromnarnia : this ask of 130k is fishy
[2017-01-21 21:06:52] Rado : Yes, I am doing a 6 months World Trip with my family
[2017-01-21 21:06:57] thailand : Rado: oh nice, how long? You come often?
[2017-01-21 21:07:12] Rado : will be my first time
[2017-01-21 21:07:12] narnarfromnarnia : krabi stay in ao nang
[2017-01-21 21:07:23] narnarfromnarnia : that's where my place is
[2017-01-21 21:07:24] Rado : narnarfromnarnia: that is where I booked
[2017-01-21 21:07:27] Rado : in the hills
[2017-01-21 21:07:34] narnarfromnarnia : yea railay beach is fun
[2017-01-21 21:07:40] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-21 21:07:54] narnarfromnarnia : but its closed down a bit since the business's were on gov property
[2017-01-21 21:08:05] narnarfromnarnia : army came through and cleared some of the cooler spots
[2017-01-21 21:08:14] narnarfromnarnia : koh lanta is awesome
[2017-01-21 21:08:19] thailand : Rado: You picked some good places for the first time. I live right in the heart of Bangkok haha
[2017-01-21 21:08:25] narnarfromnarnia : i used to fight at williams stadium there
[2017-01-21 21:08:38] narnarfromnarnia : thailand: soi nana?
[2017-01-21 21:08:39] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-21 21:09:05] thailand : na, not into that scene, just the normal club scene is more my taste :P
[2017-01-21 21:09:11] Rado : might meet you for a beer ;-)
[2017-01-21 21:09:26] thailand : young enough I don't have to go that route lol
[2017-01-21 21:09:48] narnarfromnarnia : thailand: well yea there's a lot of good clubs
[2017-01-21 21:09:52] narnarfromnarnia : nana is for old geezers
[2017-01-21 21:10:00] narnarfromnarnia : lived there for 4yrs
[2017-01-21 21:10:10] narnarfromnarnia : but in krabi and bkk
[2017-01-21 21:10:20] narnarfromnarnia : but i lived in boxing camps
[2017-01-21 21:10:33] Rado : narnarfromnarnia: where are you from?
[2017-01-21 21:10:47] narnarfromnarnia : originally ca
[2017-01-21 21:10:52] narnarfromnarnia : us
[2017-01-21 21:10:56] Rado : k
[2017-01-21 21:11:04] narnarfromnarnia : but i prefer prague to live
[2017-01-21 21:11:21] narnarfromnarnia : had asians for too long
[2017-01-21 21:11:30] narnarfromnarnia : blonde czech girls better now
[2017-01-21 21:11:34] thailand : narnarfromnarnia: how old are you if I may ask?
[2017-01-21 21:11:37] Rado : Prague is nice
[2017-01-21 21:11:43] thailand : too bad you're not in BKK anymore
[2017-01-21 21:11:48] thailand : Yes, Prague is lovely
[2017-01-21 21:11:50] narnarfromnarnia : 30 now
[2017-01-21 21:12:03] thailand : ah okay, not far off, 28
[2017-01-21 21:12:04] narnarfromnarnia : i lived in bobay at a temple kinda near khao san
[2017-01-21 21:12:16] narnarfromnarnia : all the badass fighters are my buds
[2017-01-21 21:12:32] narnarfromnarnia : so then i would go back out to krabi and fight there and kick ass lol