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[2017-01-21 06:07:06] narnarfromnarnia : slow pumpers 930 breaks
[2017-01-21 06:07:06] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ew5eCaMK/
[2017-01-21 06:07:16] narnarfromnarnia : will be stop losses triggered on daily imo
[2017-01-21 06:17:15] paniktrade : looks like bitmex gonna be late to the party
[2017-01-21 06:31:26] Apocalyptic : micmix: here ?
[2017-01-21 06:36:36] narnarfromnarnia : orderbook is caching or lagging
[2017-01-21 07:07:42] narnarfromnarnia : china pump
[2017-01-21 07:07:46] BTCKing : Weeee. $920!
[2017-01-21 07:20:22] YOLOCOIN : how come we're so low compared to other exchanges?
[2017-01-21 07:21:59] alejandromasari : not enough people bidding up
[2017-01-21 07:23:20] YOLOCOIN : got a huge discount here
[2017-01-21 07:24:07] BTCKing : It's not a discount here when you can't actually change BTC for fiat. Bitmex isn't an exchange just a derivatives market.
[2017-01-21 07:25:02] BTCKing : YOLOCOIN: The Kaiko index XBT is tracking always seems to be a lower price than big exchanges. Not sure how their weighting formula goes.
[2017-01-21 07:25:03] j8 : you can still call it a discount when it's below the index, but it's not
[2017-01-21 07:25:35] BTCKing : true
[2017-01-21 07:25:38] j8 : okc btc/usd is 50% of the index and it's at 910
[2017-01-21 07:36:07] VenCap : Bitcoin fuel fully filled, boosters engaed!
[2017-01-21 07:38:13] Nooby : Why order are canceled directly when I buy?????
[2017-01-21 07:38:39] Nooby : There is a problem here
[2017-01-21 07:39:22] Nooby : do have I to swap my money on polo or other X change??
[2017-01-21 07:42:00] Nooby : No support??
[2017-01-21 07:42:09] Derreck : shorters got rekt again? who would've thought!
[2017-01-21 07:43:36] Nooby : WTF with orders??!!!!
[2017-01-21 07:44:57] Derreck : xbth17 $13 premium! like in a good ol' times
[2017-01-21 07:45:13] narnarfromnarnia : Derreck: what does the premium mean?
[2017-01-21 07:45:19] narnarfromnarnia : just higher price?
[2017-01-21 07:45:58] alejandromasari : Nooby: untick "post only"
[2017-01-21 07:47:42] Nooby : alejandromasari: ok I will see thank you
[2017-01-21 07:58:57] paniktrade : bitmex why no 920
[2017-01-21 07:59:04] paniktrade : longs r scared? :D
[2017-01-21 07:59:26] narnarfromnarnia : paniktrade: just letting more high margin positions fill then go in whatever direction it needs to rek em
[2017-01-21 07:59:37] narnarfromnarnia : pretty much always doing that when sideways
[2017-01-21 08:00:40] narnarfromnarnia : huobi is going up
[2017-01-21 08:00:41] narnarfromnarnia : why not here
[2017-01-21 08:00:49] BitMEX_Wally : alejandromasari: Thank you for providing customer support :)
[2017-01-21 08:00:54] rangle : wheres Papou tonight
[2017-01-21 08:16:19] VenCap : Papou always cna be found in Stratis slack chat
[2017-01-21 08:17:31] Papou : right here
[2017-01-21 08:17:48] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: I used to work for customer support long a go
[2017-01-21 08:17:54] Papou : wait until mr. bearwhale wakes up
[2017-01-21 08:17:57] Papou : and dumps 15000 btc
[2017-01-21 08:18:05] Papou : gangnam style
[2017-01-21 08:18:27] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: did I earn a tip?
[2017-01-21 08:18:47] VenCap : BearWhale got killing in China for Meat, no more BearWhale, sad story
[2017-01-21 08:19:17] Papou : pboc we need uuuuu
[2017-01-21 08:19:25] Papou : we need the hammer
[2017-01-21 08:19:57] narnarfromnarnia : if anything the investigations are positive thing
[2017-01-21 08:20:16] Papou : no way
[2017-01-21 08:20:23] Papou : no official word yet and they found many illegal things
[2017-01-21 08:20:28] Papou : money laundering, manipulation
[2017-01-21 08:20:29] VenCap : i agree, i see Bitcoin getting stronger next few weeks yet
[2017-01-21 08:20:47] narnarfromnarnia : Papou: yeah theyre cleaning it out
[2017-01-21 08:20:50] narnarfromnarnia : legitimizing it
[2017-01-21 08:21:00] Papou : pboc will massacre the exchanges. china wants bloood
[2017-01-21 08:21:10] narnarfromnarnia : pboc doesn't want that for traders
[2017-01-21 08:21:16] narnarfromnarnia : they want the bad guys out
[2017-01-21 08:21:17] paniktrade : fud is stronk
[2017-01-21 08:21:24] paniktrade : pls short
[2017-01-21 08:22:02] VenCap : Short to buy my Longs
[2017-01-21 08:22:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 5828 @ 0.001506
[2017-01-21 08:22:51] paniktrade : lve the no official word but i know what they found guys
[2017-01-21 08:23:11] paniktrade : they found a load of dead bears
[2017-01-21 08:23:16] narnarfromnarnia : yeah trading with algo's and made up liquidity
[2017-01-21 08:23:18] paniktrade : in the okc basement
[2017-01-21 08:23:43] paniktrade : trading with algos so 80s
[2017-01-21 08:24:02] narnarfromnarnia : or whatever its called bots
[2017-01-21 08:24:06] narnarfromnarnia : high frequency stuff
[2017-01-21 08:24:17] paniktrade : nuffin wrong with that
[2017-01-21 08:24:31] VenCap : dump people dump in me.
[2017-01-21 08:24:35] VenCap : my body is ready
[2017-01-21 08:24:46] VenCap : killing weak hands since 2012
[2017-01-21 08:25:56] narnarfromnarnia : so there's still alot of shorts leveraged open right now
[2017-01-21 08:26:04] narnarfromnarnia : even though they canceled new margin lending
[2017-01-21 08:26:10] narnarfromnarnia : which means those all have to close
[2017-01-21 08:26:22] narnarfromnarnia : and no margin to sell short
[2017-01-21 08:26:41] narnarfromnarnia : lot of open short contracts i'm guessing over there and people probably freaking about getting btc out
[2017-01-21 08:26:41] paniktrade : time for okc to chip the last margin shorts
[2017-01-21 08:26:44] paniktrade : :D
[2017-01-21 08:26:49] paniktrade : no mercy
[2017-01-21 08:26:54] paniktrade : all must die, the pboc demands it
[2017-01-21 08:27:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 700 @ 0.001487
[2017-01-21 08:27:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 65 @ 0.001490
[2017-01-21 08:27:36] VenCap : +100
[2017-01-21 08:32:53] narnarfromnarnia : whales have enough btc with 5x to crush the open shorts i'd assume
[2017-01-21 08:33:17] narnarfromnarnia : 930 and stop losses trigger
[2017-01-21 08:42:18] VenCap : you think we cna see 930 here today?
[2017-01-21 08:43:37] narnarfromnarnia : VenCap: ya its coming
[2017-01-21 08:43:51] narnarfromnarnia : china breaks 6400 its coming
[2017-01-21 08:43:55] VenCap : Great i was thinking the same
[2017-01-21 08:46:38] VenCap : insane buys on okcoin quaters
[2017-01-21 08:49:39] alejandromasari : President Trump has accumulated a big stash of bitcoin so that he will be insulated when the US dollar Crashes in June
[2017-01-21 08:51:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 360 @ 912.24
[2017-01-21 08:51:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 64080 @ 910.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-21 08:51:43] Papou : ouch
[2017-01-21 08:52:01] narnarfromnarnia : wow
[2017-01-21 08:52:05] narnarfromnarnia : who went 100x there
[2017-01-21 08:52:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 910.35
[2017-01-21 08:52:08] narnarfromnarnia : geez
[2017-01-21 08:53:28] Papou : thats why u dont high leverage
[2017-01-21 08:53:31] Papou : rekt city
[2017-01-21 08:53:52] narnarfromnarnia : that was a lotta money
[2017-01-21 08:53:54] narnarfromnarnia : ouch
[2017-01-21 08:54:07] narnarfromnarnia : buy time
[2017-01-21 08:55:11] narnarfromnarnia : must have been a 925 buy
[2017-01-21 08:55:16] micmix : just relax and enjoy the ride on the moon train
[2017-01-21 08:56:21] VenCap : Final shake down. Clear. Moontrap
[2017-01-21 08:56:36] KyllingLolsson : I once saw some one lose 50 000 $ here
[2017-01-21 08:57:40] KyllingLolsson : Liquidate
[2017-01-21 08:58:05] laisee : I once saw someone betting 50BTC a time on just-dice.com. degen gamblers all around ... ;-)
[2017-01-21 08:58:23] KyllingLolsson : Ugh
[2017-01-21 08:58:54] micmix : I once saw someone giving 0.5 btc to a total stranger bc he guessed a book title
[2017-01-21 08:59:02] micmix : oh wait, that was me ;-)
[2017-01-21 08:59:11] KyllingLolsson : Lol
[2017-01-21 08:59:25] KyllingLolsson : Give me that
[2017-01-21 09:06:20] KyllingLolsson : God, i want tacos
[2017-01-21 09:07:02] KyllingLolsson : Or kebab pizza
[2017-01-21 09:07:26] KyllingLolsson : Do not remove kebab!!!!
[2017-01-21 09:07:39] VenCap : get your popcorn, we about to go green hard.. like Shrek on Viagra overdose
[2017-01-21 09:07:45] musta : how of often mark price updates>
[2017-01-21 09:09:14] KyllingLolsson : My swamp is shrekd
[2017-01-21 09:09:32] VenCap : Mark Price means what exactly?
[2017-01-21 09:09:37] VenCap : My entry price is my true avg right?
[2017-01-21 09:10:44] Nooby : Lol when someone says green it will be red becareful guys
[2017-01-21 09:10:58] VenCap : nooby. it is green though
[2017-01-21 09:11:23] KyllingLolsson : Any one willing to donate some bits? ?
[2017-01-21 09:11:41] rangle : to what charity?
[2017-01-21 09:11:42] VenCap : if you have to beg, your title is Smeg
[2017-01-21 09:11:48] Nooby : Green yes but not BIG green
[2017-01-21 09:11:49] VenCap : STSH foundation
[2017-01-21 09:11:54] VenCap : Save the Smeg Head
[2017-01-21 09:12:00] VenCap : (red dwarf)
[2017-01-21 09:12:02] KyllingLolsson : Yes my own chatity
[2017-01-21 09:12:25] rangle : do you have a non-profit?
[2017-01-21 09:13:05] KyllingLolsson : No ? i just want to trade, just joking around
[2017-01-21 09:13:49] rangle : im just extremely bored and messing with you
[2017-01-21 09:14:35] Nooby : LOL here we are RED
[2017-01-21 09:14:40] KyllingLolsson : Do some crosswords
[2017-01-21 09:16:11] KyllingLolsson : Do the dishes
[2017-01-21 09:16:23] KyllingLolsson : Vacum clean
[2017-01-21 09:16:38] VenCap : and
[2017-01-21 09:16:41] VenCap : boom
[2017-01-21 09:17:04] Nooby : VenCap: lol i m still waiting guy...
[2017-01-21 09:17:28] rangle : $2 range still bored, cant do chores atm
[2017-01-21 09:17:31] VenCap : good things come to those who wait.
[2017-01-21 09:17:50] Nooby : Oh yeah but green?? Not sure...
[2017-01-21 09:20:31] VenCap : should be 918 not far away here
[2017-01-21 09:22:01] Nooby : 918 is not a BOOM dude
[2017-01-21 09:24:09] Nooby : Someone interested in buying VUITTON bag from France??
[2017-01-21 09:24:52] VenCap : real LV bag from china you mean? :P
[2017-01-21 09:25:47] WarWarBanana : Any Bitmex staff online atm?
[2017-01-21 09:27:15] Nooby : No no you order it in France and I send I send to you for 0.25btc commission
[2017-01-21 09:27:41] Derreck : narnarfromnarnia yes higher price
[2017-01-21 09:28:41] narnarfromnarnia : Derreck: hu
[2017-01-21 09:29:06] VenCap : wow just 250 dollars give or take commission. fair deal!
[2017-01-21 09:29:14] Derreck : didn't see this pump coming.
[2017-01-21 09:30:02] VenCap : i did yesterday at 895. tons of buys and big support on bitstamp unusually high
[2017-01-21 09:30:09] VenCap : always a good sig
[2017-01-21 09:30:11] VenCap : sign
[2017-01-21 09:30:28] VenCap : $930 for sure.
[2017-01-21 09:38:31] VenCap : Nom
[2017-01-21 09:38:49] VenCap : nom
[2017-01-21 09:43:44] Derreck : lol @ those who predicted 720-750 for the last days
[2017-01-21 09:45:38] VenCap : RIP shorters
[2017-01-21 09:48:13] VenCap : but, it does not last forever....
[2017-01-21 09:49:22] VenCap : bot battle
[2017-01-21 09:51:14] rangle : does KNCMiner still operate?
[2017-01-21 09:52:14] BTCDJS : After we go up to 900s we may go back down to 800s. Watch all the shorters come out again and say that they told everyone so
[2017-01-21 09:54:14] VenCap : i think sot shorters are under busses right now
[2017-01-21 09:54:55] longbydefault : predictions should have a time frame so that it's valid... bitcoin price always goes up and down so everybody is right eventually
[2017-01-21 09:55:09] longbydefault : if there is no time frame...
[2017-01-21 09:55:25] QuantFocus : but you're long by default
[2017-01-21 09:55:27] VenCap : +100
[2017-01-21 09:55:40] longbydefault : yes i am... im trading only 10% and holding the rest
[2017-01-21 09:55:47] Derreck : Trading volume is very small though. (0kcoin + huobi + btcc) == $800M, and its still dropping
[2017-01-21 09:56:05] QuantFocus : well it's hard without 20x
[2017-01-21 09:57:30] Derreck : QuantFocus: aye
[2017-01-21 09:59:30] rangle : dont lose the forest for the trees though, BTC marketcap is peanuts compared to total wealth in china
[2017-01-21 09:59:58] rangle : leverage or not
[2017-01-21 10:01:51] VenCap : $920 sweet
[2017-01-21 10:03:18] Derreck : dunno is this still a good indicator but 0kcoin is remaining bullish. 33% vs 30%
[2017-01-21 10:03:43] VenCap : $930 next stop
[2017-01-21 10:03:50] narnarfromnarnia : what about the open margin positions
[2017-01-21 10:03:53] narnarfromnarnia : they're all shorts
[2017-01-21 10:04:00] narnarfromnarnia : assuming
[2017-01-21 10:04:16] narnarfromnarnia : and they will have to close them if there's a long squeeze and no margin to sell
[2017-01-21 10:04:28] narnarfromnarnia : so i dunno seems like you just want to hold
[2017-01-21 10:06:01] VenCap : really want to see Bitcoin over $1k and hold that price
[2017-01-21 10:09:57] Derreck : VenCap: yes 1k would be very sweet
[2017-01-21 10:10:42] abz : Bitcoin is bullish but the money flow is negative http://zentrade.online/bitcoinusd-price-action-analysis-bitmex-perpetual-swap-xbtusd-update-20170121/
[2017-01-21 10:11:38] VenCap : so imagine when money is positive.. $2 k a coin easy
[2017-01-21 10:12:42] narnarfromnarnia : abz: mf negative because margin trading is wiped in china
[2017-01-21 10:13:03] abz : narnarfromnarnia: yep!
[2017-01-21 10:13:03] narnarfromnarnia : and real mf is off the books
[2017-01-21 10:13:16] abz : VenCap: 1600 by Nov 2017 http://zentrade.online/bitcoin-price-action-update-20170113/
[2017-01-21 10:15:03] Derreck : waiting for the good ol' $50 premium for xbth17
[2017-01-21 10:17:06] Derreck : abz: at first I thought u mean 1600CNY and that was lol
[2017-01-21 10:26:33] abz : Derreck: he-he, 1600CNY is not bad for the good buy...
[2017-01-21 10:36:46] BTCDJS : I'm not trading Alts on here again
[2017-01-21 10:40:12] PARAFFIN : we will see at least 840
[2017-01-21 10:40:59] PARAFFIN : for(int x = 0;x != fsize; x++) { s[x] ^= XOR_KEY; printf("%c",s[x]); }
[2017-01-21 10:41:10] PARAFFIN : op
[2017-01-21 10:41:41] thedoc : Pump
[2017-01-21 10:41:43] BTCDJS : Spam
[2017-01-21 10:42:15] thedoc : Is 940 resistance or broken?
[2017-01-21 10:42:58] BTCDJS : thedoc: 940 is the answer
[2017-01-21 10:43:17] PARAFFIN : 940*
[2017-01-21 10:43:22] thedoc : Not close to 940 yet
[2017-01-21 10:45:03] BTCDJS : 940 is the answer to the question. What is 900 + 40?
[2017-01-21 10:47:22] PARAFFIN : 3
[2017-01-21 10:49:29] BTCDJS : You'll go far
[2017-01-21 10:53:20] Noobz : Morning Peerpz
[2017-01-21 10:53:31] Noobz : uhmm Peepz*
[2017-01-21 10:53:35] Noobz : need coffee
[2017-01-21 11:07:16] Derreck : 940 is the answer to the question of the universe
[2017-01-21 11:08:09] Noobz : wasn't that 42?
[2017-01-21 11:10:27] PARAFFIN : its 42 yes
[2017-01-21 11:12:32] abbey : so it begins
[2017-01-21 11:12:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 200 @ 920.79
[2017-01-21 11:14:31] Derreck : holy moly pump intensifies
[2017-01-21 11:14:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 400 @ 921.96
[2017-01-21 11:14:52] thedoc : Short squeeze
[2017-01-21 11:15:08] Derreck : i really shouldn't have closed my long below 900
[2017-01-21 11:15:15] abbey : put on your dancing shoes
[2017-01-21 11:15:25] thedoc : Same
[2017-01-21 11:15:35] BTCDJS : FOMO bot is telling me that China, yes CHINA is Fomoing up by 38 CNY
[2017-01-21 11:15:44] narnarfromnarnia : just closed at 916
[2017-01-21 11:15:54] thedoc : Longed 817 on last big dump. Ugh didn't hold it
[2017-01-21 11:15:55] narnarfromnarnia : and now this after all this time watching
[2017-01-21 11:16:42] Derreck : had long from 780, closed @ 880. well it was a mistake obviously
[2017-01-21 11:17:53] BTCDJS : You were told it was going up. So you got excited about up. Then you were told it was going down. So you got fear of going down. Because you don't have your own plan you are disappointed
[2017-01-21 11:19:48] narnarfromnarnia : BTCDJS: fomo bot?
[2017-01-21 11:20:28] BTCDJS : https://twitter.com/botfomo/status/822763808456376320
[2017-01-21 11:26:57] VenCap : wow big orders on the books
[2017-01-21 11:30:03] VenCap : probaly a sell off before breaking 930
[2017-01-21 11:30:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 28000 @ 926.80
[2017-01-21 11:30:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 35000 @ 6409.6
[2017-01-21 11:30:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 25700 @ 928.09
[2017-01-21 11:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4900 @ 918.79
[2017-01-21 11:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 450 @ 919.27
[2017-01-21 11:30:34] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2017-01-21 11:31:14] thedoc : Who dumped
[2017-01-21 11:31:17] bingbongfly : uhm, rektecation
[2017-01-21 11:31:19] bingbongfly : this is going down
[2017-01-21 11:31:57] bingbongfly : Feels okey to not be in an position
[2017-01-21 11:31:58] VenCap : big buys where fake to get sells filled?
[2017-01-21 11:32:09] bingbongfly : if one is unsure, stay out
[2017-01-21 11:33:05] VenCap : exactly
[2017-01-21 11:33:14] VenCap : if one has small balls.. do not margin trade :O)
[2017-01-21 11:33:48] bingbongfly : 172312 contracts on spaw lol
[2017-01-21 11:33:55] bingbongfly : swap, at 91999
[2017-01-21 11:34:48] VenCap : i am pro long.. but right now.. i would not go long
[2017-01-21 11:35:23] bingbongfly : VenCap: me neither, I'm just out of the market since I dunno where it goes. Still have 1x long on my trading stack
[2017-01-21 11:35:38] bingbongfly : won't bother to hedge atm
[2017-01-21 11:35:54] VenCap : i like to play x25 up over .45 for the day. so got my wages for the day
[2017-01-21 11:36:24] VenCap : its getting more risky to go long.. maybe $950 before $100 drop i think
[2017-01-21 11:38:39] abbey : twist and shout
[2017-01-21 11:39:32] bingbongfly : so the 172312 contracts long on swap just got filled right?
[2017-01-21 11:39:40] bingbongfly : expect some big liq here then if we move down a bit
[2017-01-21 11:45:18] Derreck : 6400 again
[2017-01-21 11:46:24] abbey : get raedy
[2017-01-21 11:56:48] Kinda : abbey: for what?
[2017-01-21 11:58:34] abbey : Kinda: for anything, it's important to be ready these days. I expect fast moves soon.
[2017-01-21 11:59:21] abbey : talking about btc oc
[2017-01-21 11:59:39] Kinda : abbey: moves are going up atm we might get big rally
[2017-01-21 12:00:15] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBJ24H`: buy 10 @ 103543
[2017-01-21 12:00:22] abbey : if we continue up, it's going far
[2017-01-21 12:01:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7800 @ 923.39
[2017-01-21 12:02:23] Kinda : abbey: but ya never know right :p
[2017-01-21 12:03:07] abbey : Kinda: we will find out soon enough
[2017-01-21 12:04:12] abz : smart money is selling here, good to sell
[2017-01-21 12:05:02] l3f : Shorts rekt yet?
[2017-01-21 12:05:31] Kinda : abz: shorting you mean
[2017-01-21 12:05:33] abz : l3f: naked shorts - yes
[2017-01-21 12:05:53] abz : Kinda: yep
[2017-01-21 12:06:07] l3f : How's our friend Paduo holding up?
[2017-01-21 12:06:11] Kinda : smart money is going long :D
[2017-01-21 12:06:40] l3f : Papou*
[2017-01-21 12:06:41] abz : Kinda: yes, but not from here
[2017-01-21 12:06:44] l3f : Still alive?
[2017-01-21 12:06:55] Kinda : abz: from where then tell me
[2017-01-21 12:07:46] Kinda : abz: from sub 800 that's what u say ?
[2017-01-21 12:07:59] abz : Kinda: from 828 at least
[2017-01-21 12:08:36] Kinda : abz: and top at ?
[2017-01-21 12:09:16] abz : Kinda: first resistance at 950 as far as I can see
[2017-01-21 12:10:14] abz : Kinda: if bull will be able to stay above 920
[2017-01-21 12:10:29] abz : *bulls
[2017-01-21 12:10:43] Kinda : abz: this would be to easy to predict everyone would be winner
[2017-01-21 12:11:13] abbey : abz: heh, that's exactly my entry price of xbtusd swap contracts. 828
[2017-01-21 12:11:39] abz : yeah, but volumes are extremely thin
[2017-01-21 12:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 200 @ 0.012902
[2017-01-21 12:12:09] abz : abbey: you are wise men
[2017-01-21 12:12:40] abbey : volumes are thin while forming a handle @abz
[2017-01-21 12:12:54] abbey : thanks @abz
[2017-01-21 12:13:05] Kinda : abbey: how do you create a swap contract?
[2017-01-21 12:13:46] abz : abbey: be careful here, this *could* be a bullish sign also
[2017-01-21 12:14:14] abbey : Perpetual Swap @Kinda
[2017-01-21 12:14:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 5 @ 0.012874
[2017-01-21 12:14:55] abz : abbey: chinese was good on volume pumping, last year, sigh...
[2017-01-21 12:15:07] abbey : abz: what could be a bullish sign?
[2017-01-21 12:16:05] abbey : I'm so bullish u can't believe it
[2017-01-21 12:16:22] abz : low volumes for the cup structure at beginning
[2017-01-21 12:17:08] abbey : I'm talking about THE handle
[2017-01-21 12:17:29] abz : abbey: oh, sorry then
[2017-01-21 12:19:08] abbey : the one that started jan 5.
[2017-01-21 12:20:55] abz : abbey: sorry, I do not understand. Can you show the chart?
[2017-01-21 12:25:22] abbey : abz: i'm talking about the cup that started from last ath 2013
[2017-01-21 12:28:31] abbey : We wil go up quite soon or down first just to go up later on.
[2017-01-21 12:28:38] Kinda : abbey: what value did the cup reach?
[2017-01-21 12:29:31] abbey : 1139.9 @stamp
[2017-01-21 12:29:58] Kinda : abbey: you expect the same?
[2017-01-21 12:30:41] abbey : I expect moon and beyond
[2017-01-21 12:30:56] abz : abbey: my take is 690 then 1600 by Nov 2017 http://zentrade.online/bitcoin-price-action-update-20170113/
[2017-01-21 12:31:31] thedoc : New high
[2017-01-21 12:31:32] abbey : abz: I know, let's see
[2017-01-21 12:31:42] Derreck : 950 incoming?
[2017-01-21 12:33:33] abz : Derreck: on thin liquidity like this is doubtful
[2017-01-21 12:50:25] trollytroll : test 123
[2017-01-21 12:50:37] Noobz : 456
[2017-01-21 12:50:41] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-01-21 12:50:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 923.68
[2017-01-21 12:50:41] trollytroll : thx
[2017-01-21 12:50:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 923.38
[2017-01-21 12:51:34] trollytroll : i'm new here. can someone tell me how to calculate profits with XBTH17?
[2017-01-21 12:51:52] trollytroll : let's say i bought 50 xbt and 900
[2017-01-21 12:52:02] trollytroll : and it's trading at 932 now
[2017-01-21 12:52:09] trollytroll : how much am i up?
[2017-01-21 12:53:01] trollytroll : i meant i bought 50 contracts @ 900 and it's 932...
[2017-01-21 12:53:41] Teddy76 : calculator icon just under BitMEX logo
[2017-01-21 12:54:17] trollytroll : ty!
[2017-01-21 12:55:21] Teddy76 : try to trade 1 contract before big amount, the time to learn
[2017-01-21 12:55:43] trollytroll : is 50 contracts a big amount?
[2017-01-21 12:56:15] Teddy76 : this exchange can make you rich or broke in a minute ;)
[2017-01-21 12:56:27] NeoXx : trollytroll: there is also http://testnet.bitmex.com/
[2017-01-21 12:56:37] NeoXx : its same as this one but you trade with virtual money
[2017-01-21 12:56:46] trollytroll : ty neoxx
[2017-01-21 12:56:59] Teddy76 : yes, 50c is reasonable
[2017-01-21 12:59:27] trollytroll : hmmm.. i bought 50 contracts @ 900, and sold at 920. my profit was 0.0012 XBT...how much is 0.0012XBT in US dollars?
[2017-01-21 13:00:12] NeoXx : trollytroll: (current bitcoin price)*0.0012
[2017-01-21 13:00:21] trollytroll : only $1.10 USD...?
[2017-01-21 13:00:40] l3f : Yo bitmex, why is the fee column zero
[2017-01-21 13:00:42] l3f : https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2017-01-21 13:00:43] l3f : on there
[2017-01-21 13:00:47] l3f : surely I paid some fees
[2017-01-21 13:01:06] NeoXx : trollytroll: yes, you probably havent used any leverage and 50 contracts is nothing
[2017-01-21 13:01:29] trollytroll : wow 50 contracts here is nothing like 50 contracts in the U.S. futures market
[2017-01-21 13:01:43] charlyko : 50 contratcs here are 50$
[2017-01-21 13:01:55] charlyko : you can see it if you read before trading
[2017-01-21 13:02:09] trollytroll : i understand...so i made $1.10 USD on $50 USD
[2017-01-21 13:02:24] trollytroll : or, i made 0.0012XBT on 50 contracts
[2017-01-21 13:02:35] trollytroll : with an entry of 900 and exit of 920
[2017-01-21 13:02:40] Teddy76 : trollytroll: becareful also at fees, if your 2 orders were market order, you pay 0.75% fees on each trade, maker order ave a rebate of 0.25%
[2017-01-21 13:02:48] trollytroll : ty teddy76
[2017-01-21 13:03:02] Teddy76 : have a read here : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2017-01-21 13:03:18] trollytroll : ty teddy76
[2017-01-21 13:03:41] NeoXx : trollytroll: if you bought one XBT for say 900 and it rose to 920 you would make 20$. However you bought only 1/18th of one bitcoin and probably haven't used leverage so your profit is 1/18*20
[2017-01-21 13:04:06] charlyko : also if you are new here. dont touch 100x. lol
[2017-01-21 13:04:15] trollytroll : lol ty charlyko
[2017-01-21 13:04:23] trollytroll : neoxx thx for explaining
[2017-01-21 13:04:26] Kinda : charlyko: only if you see the crash starting
[2017-01-21 13:05:13] trollytroll : neoxx, in bitmex calculator if you buy Qty. 1, entry 900, and exit 920, it says Profit/Loss = 0.0000 XBT
[2017-01-21 13:05:24] charlyko : xdd
[2017-01-21 13:05:36] trollytroll : are you sure your math is right neoxx?
[2017-01-21 13:07:04] NeoXx : trollytroll: it says that because the profit is negligible as its only one contract
[2017-01-21 13:07:17] NeoXx : trollytroll: its not one bitcoin, its one contract
[2017-01-21 13:08:14] trollytroll : ah ok, i see then. qty. is different from what you meant. what do you mean when you say "if you bought 1 XBT"?
[2017-01-21 13:08:38] trollytroll : what does 1XBT translate to in terms of qty. in the bitmex calculator?
[2017-01-21 13:09:40] NeoXx : 1XBT is one bitcoin which is worth around 920$ currently. I meant you buy enough contracts so the cost will be 1XBT as you actually owned one bitcoin
[2017-01-21 13:10:11] trollytroll : so you mean like 80,000 contracts??
[2017-01-21 13:10:27] trollytroll : b/c approx. 80,000 contracts = 1.0222 XBT
[2017-01-21 13:10:54] trollytroll : (is my math right?)
[2017-01-21 13:11:06] NeoXx : I think one contract is 1$
[2017-01-21 13:11:09] NeoXx : you're probably using leverage
[2017-01-21 13:11:46] trollytroll : i had leverage = 100 in bitmex calculator
[2017-01-21 13:11:48] trollytroll : ur right
[2017-01-21 13:12:27] trollytroll : 900 qty. = 900 contracts = 1 XBT with leverage = 1
[2017-01-21 13:12:59] NeoXx : trollytroll: there you go
[2017-01-21 13:15:16] Kinda : guys I have a joke
[2017-01-21 13:15:22] Kinda : try not to laugh to hard
[2017-01-21 13:15:28] trollytroll : i understand now, ty neoxx
[2017-01-21 13:15:29] popppp : difference btwn perpetual swap and margin?
[2017-01-21 13:15:46] Kinda : XMR and BTC are in correlation (Coindesk#)
[2017-01-21 13:16:23] thedoc : xmr/btc dumping
[2017-01-21 13:17:11] Kinda : thedoc: btc has been up but xmr not
[2017-01-21 13:17:48] thedoc : damn someone got rekt for 20k ETC contracts
[2017-01-21 13:18:10] thedoc : gotta love when people long a coin big after it went up 25% or so
[2017-01-21 13:20:25] guacamole : anyone know what fee moneymaker pays for taker fee?
[2017-01-21 13:23:08] guacamole : marketmaker*
[2017-01-21 13:23:49] Beowulf : why i cant send bitcoins in withraw in the second conformasion, its blank with adress
[2017-01-21 13:24:14] sleger : guacamole: market makers pay the same fee as everyone else
[2017-01-21 13:24:49] guacamole : sleger: all right, ty
[2017-01-21 13:25:18] guacamole : i guess they probably shave off a tiny amount with referrals
[2017-01-21 13:27:18] thedoc : dont dump yet btc
[2017-01-21 13:27:23] l3f : guacamole: MMs make money via the spread
[2017-01-21 13:27:26] thedoc : i dont want an old fashion weekend dump
[2017-01-21 13:27:32] l3f : also post-only orders
[2017-01-21 13:27:34] l3f : which you can place as well
[2017-01-21 13:27:40] l3f : if you trick them into eating into your wall
[2017-01-21 13:27:45] l3f : they pay
[2017-01-21 13:28:16] guacamole : l3f: ty, yeah i know but i was wondering if it makes more sense to try to make market maker hit my order as opposed to paying the fee - but if market maker pays the same fee, that strategy doesn't make much sense
[2017-01-21 13:28:30] l3f : guacamole: making risk free profit
[2017-01-21 13:28:33] l3f : definitely makes sense to be a MM
[2017-01-21 13:28:34] l3f : hahaha
[2017-01-21 13:29:09] guacamole : yeah, depending on the strategy used i'm sure there's a bit of risk but fairly low and decent profit potential
[2017-01-21 13:29:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8985 @ 921.29
[2017-01-21 13:29:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 921.28
[2017-01-21 13:31:36] guacamole : l3f: i am curious how much the MM's make, whether it's a little profit ground out each day or if they're making hundreds of thousands $ per year
[2017-01-21 13:32:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 921.15
[2017-01-21 13:32:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15800 @ 921.10
[2017-01-21 13:32:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 250 @ 921.07
[2017-01-21 13:32:28] l3f : Core dive incoming
[2017-01-21 13:32:31] l3f : back to zero
[2017-01-21 13:32:37] l3f : (buy the dip)
[2017-01-21 13:37:34] VenCap : Bitcoin? not for a while i should think
[2017-01-21 13:46:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4070 @ 920.71
[2017-01-21 13:46:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150 @ 920.37
[2017-01-21 13:48:41] BitMEX_Wally : Market makers pay the same taker fees and maker fees as everyone else
[2017-01-21 13:50:27] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet
[2017-01-21 13:50:41] l3f : Hey can you verify if the Fees column is working properly?
[2017-01-21 13:51:13] trollytroll : if i buy 200,000 contracts of xbth17 would you guys want to know?
[2017-01-21 13:52:31] BitMEX_Wally : l3f: Yes in the wallet history the fee for a RealisedPNL is actually the tax paid due to DPE, which no longer exists so it's always 0
[2017-01-21 13:52:45] abbey : watch 6,5k cny limit carefully
[2017-01-21 13:52:56] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: Ok
[2017-01-21 13:53:30] Rado : It's now only for Withdrawal fee
[2017-01-21 14:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 20 @ 0.011830
[2017-01-21 14:11:12] charlyko : btc up?
[2017-01-21 14:12:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 120 @ 0.012040
[2017-01-21 14:12:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 500 @ 0.011980
[2017-01-21 14:14:31] VenCap : yes BTC up going to try for $1,000 again next week or so
[2017-01-21 14:15:09] Rado : maybe
[2017-01-21 14:15:17] thedoc : eth news?
[2017-01-21 14:16:18] abz : Watch the smart monies http://zentrade.online/usd-vs-cny-bitcoin-battle/
[2017-01-21 14:20:56] amirmass : DUMPOOOOO
[2017-01-21 14:21:45] laisee : is that the magick word that causes price to fall?
[2017-01-21 14:22:03] Kinda : thedoc: just think it s going up since btc is dumpinh
[2017-01-21 14:23:38] VenCap : 917 please
[2017-01-21 14:26:18] VenCap : 918 will do
[2017-01-21 14:28:10] VenCap : arise rooster
[2017-01-21 14:32:19] VenCap : Mega buys.. wow.. Bitcoin Beast Mode.
[2017-01-21 14:32:25] VenCap : Ride the Bull.... dont try and fight it!
[2017-01-21 14:36:36] Kinda : VenCap: you rly think you can control the market like that?
[2017-01-21 14:38:18] abbey : ^ it's just euphoria
[2017-01-21 14:38:48] VenCap : Kinda, hell no. i just like to commentate.
[2017-01-21 14:39:07] VenCap : Bitcoin talks . Contracts talk.
[2017-01-21 14:39:28] VenCap : i bought at 918 and 919 just missed out on 917
[2017-01-21 14:40:28] charlyko : 922/921/920/919/918 buys here. lol
[2017-01-21 14:40:44] abbey : euphoria will become familiar to all of us soon, if it's not already. Nothing wrong with it.
[2017-01-21 14:40:51] VenCap : nice charlyk
[2017-01-21 14:41:00] charlyko : plz move up XDDD
[2017-01-21 14:41:05] thedoc : ETC heading back up
[2017-01-21 14:41:13] VenCap : i just swing trade. never going to sleep on it,
[2017-01-21 14:41:20] VenCap : ETC would not touch that, ever.
[2017-01-21 14:41:22] charlyko : great. I am long on etc in kraken
[2017-01-21 14:41:36] charlyko : I like very much etc
[2017-01-21 14:42:01] charlyko : I am a ETH ICO buyer., that switch 90% my bag into etc
[2017-01-21 14:42:18] VenCap : probally a good choice for potential gains this year
[2017-01-21 14:42:30] charlyko : I hope...!
[2017-01-21 14:42:58] charlyko : I am in ethereum for long term but dont like to support a fundation ( ETH ) but yes the tech ( ETC )
[2017-01-21 14:43:12] rullwull : ETC is moving
[2017-01-21 14:43:20] thedoc : i like whatever china likes. BTC, ETC, LTC
[2017-01-21 14:43:26] VenCap : eth should be here to stay, if it aint dead now after the total shambles it can survive anything
[2017-01-21 14:43:32] charlyko : thedoc: hahaha that is a good point of view lol
[2017-01-21 14:43:41] VenCap : i like POS coins.
[2017-01-21 14:43:50] thedoc : piece of shit coins?
[2017-01-21 14:43:51] VenCap : and bitcoin
[2017-01-21 14:43:56] charlyko : lmao
[2017-01-21 14:44:02] VenCap : Proof of Stake :P
[2017-01-21 14:44:06] thedoc : oh
[2017-01-21 14:44:37] charlyko : well. soon we all will have a new protocol called Proof Of Cooperation. PoC
[2017-01-21 14:44:43] Kinda : second leg on etc on polo
[2017-01-21 14:44:52] charlyko : there is a coin working on it. and looks really promising
[2017-01-21 14:45:02] yungyang : ethereum while flawed
[2017-01-21 14:45:07] VenCap : Straits, I/OCoin.. etc....
[2017-01-21 14:45:09] VenCap : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_Stake
[2017-01-21 14:45:14] yungyang : is the most beautiful, usable creation in our ecosystem
[2017-01-21 14:45:37] charlyko : yungyang: yes. ethereum as ETC not as ETH
[2017-01-21 14:45:37] charlyko : XD
[2017-01-21 14:46:07] VenCap : 926 before next little sell off?
[2017-01-21 14:46:44] VenCap : Guys you have to agree, BTC looks real Bullish ATM
[2017-01-21 14:46:53] yungyang : DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
[2017-01-21 14:47:19] VenCap : 925 bitstamp nice.
[2017-01-21 14:47:30] VenCap : id like $1,000 by end of Jan
[2017-01-21 14:47:47] charlyko : better by the end of the day
[2017-01-21 14:48:07] VenCap : lols if only
[2017-01-21 14:48:18] VenCap : but the huge buys i have seen.. i would not bet against it
[2017-01-21 14:48:38] charlyko : china love pump on weekends
[2017-01-21 14:49:41] VenCap : "Love Pump"
[2017-01-21 14:49:44] VenCap : :P
[2017-01-21 14:50:05] sleger : huge buys where ? Volumes are low
[2017-01-21 14:50:53] VenCap : vols missleading, some people know whats happening.
[2017-01-21 14:51:00] VenCap : why does it keep rising? on low vol?
[2017-01-21 14:51:21] VenCap : sleger what is your short price?
[2017-01-21 14:53:42] Rado : sleger: don't pay attention to newbs
[2017-01-21 14:54:21] sleger : VenCap: what you mean by short price newb ?
[2017-01-21 14:54:40] Rado : I was bullish since mid 700s, but now is not the time to go long
[2017-01-21 14:54:43] VenCap : Sleger. The price you have Shorted Bitcoin at today
[2017-01-21 14:55:05] Rado : I don't think he is short
[2017-01-21 14:55:40] VenCap : ah.
[2017-01-21 14:56:07] VenCap : 922 proving hard nut to crack here
[2017-01-21 14:56:59] yungyang : why can we not teach one another?
[2017-01-21 14:57:04] yungyang : giving all the skills to succeed