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[2017-01-21 03:20:51] Rado : clarifying the government position on exchange rules
[2017-01-21 03:20:59] yungyang : on a Saturday?
[2017-01-21 03:21:19] micmix : Rado: worst case scenario - exchange closure, best case - exchanges pay some fines/bribes and continue to offer 0% fee
[2017-01-21 03:21:44] micmix : leverage seems to be gone for good
[2017-01-21 03:21:50] Rado : yes
[2017-01-21 03:22:10] aethlios : liquidity is gone everywhere.
[2017-01-21 03:22:17] Rado : the 0 fee is not a problem from government percpective
[2017-01-21 03:22:31] Rado : but the exchanges will not be able to make money now without margin trading
[2017-01-21 03:22:42] wurstgelee : i'd like see btcchina go through with it and introduce fees tho
[2017-01-21 03:22:44] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-01-21 03:22:55] Rado : that will be good
[2017-01-21 03:23:00] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-01-21 03:23:06] wurstgelee : makes sense for them
[2017-01-21 03:23:14] wurstgelee : with margin gone, they have to make money the "regular2 way
[2017-01-21 03:23:21] wurstgelee : =fees
[2017-01-21 03:23:44] Rado : did all exchanges stop the volume bots now?
[2017-01-21 03:24:14] paniktrade : Rado: exchanges run their own MM bots, they can also ask for deposit and withdrawal fees
[2017-01-21 03:24:14] wurstgelee : laying low ofc
[2017-01-21 03:24:29] wurstgelee : paniktrade: trading fees make more sense
[2017-01-21 03:24:37] wurstgelee : than deposit or withdrawal fees
[2017-01-21 03:24:37] micmix : yungyang: no, obviously no news today, before New Year or immediately after
[2017-01-21 03:24:44] paniktrade : wurstgelee: no they dont if you run a MM bot
[2017-01-21 03:24:48] Rado : paniktrade: that's not enough to keep the business going
[2017-01-21 03:24:57] paniktrade : oh yes it is
[2017-01-21 03:25:05] Rado : no it's not
[2017-01-21 03:25:09] paniktrade : yes it is
[2017-01-21 03:25:22] Rado : you have no idea how money are made on exchanges
[2017-01-21 03:25:29] paniktrade : no you dont
[2017-01-21 03:25:33] wurstgelee : paniktrade: fees dont piss off people. deposit and withdrawal fees do
[2017-01-21 03:25:49] Rado : they were making 36% annualized from margin
[2017-01-21 03:26:02] paniktrade : they still offer margin on futures
[2017-01-21 03:26:06] paniktrade : so traders will just go there
[2017-01-21 03:26:10] paniktrade : and get rekt there
[2017-01-21 03:26:22] paniktrade : whilst they drive price with their bots on spot
[2017-01-21 03:26:58] wurstgelee : paniktrade: do u think bitmex does that?
[2017-01-21 03:27:15] paniktrade : and also okc runs their own MM that they dont report profits on
[2017-01-21 03:27:16] wurstgelee : i mean..y wouldnt they?
[2017-01-21 03:27:20] Rado : paniktrade: don't you see the bots are off
[2017-01-21 03:27:22] wurstgelee : seems to be great oO
[2017-01-21 03:27:24] paniktrade : nah bitmex depends on other bots
[2017-01-21 03:27:28] Rado : volume was 5 mill now it's 200k
[2017-01-21 03:27:49] wurstgelee : Rado: i cant see how u can not see that tbh :p
[2017-01-21 03:28:16] Rado : wurstgelee: see what?
[2017-01-21 03:28:19] paniktrade : if they get fees they will have tiers
[2017-01-21 03:28:25] paniktrade : where max tier has 0% fees anyway
[2017-01-21 03:28:31] wurstgelee : Rado: that the bots are turned off? ;)
[2017-01-21 03:28:33] paniktrade : and plebs have to pay
[2017-01-21 03:28:44] paniktrade : and bots are never off
[2017-01-21 03:28:50] paniktrade : thats the whole point of a bot
[2017-01-21 03:28:50] Rado : wurstgelee: obviously they are off if the volume went down by 90%
[2017-01-21 03:28:54] paniktrade : running 24/7
[2017-01-21 03:29:19] wurstgelee : Rado: yes ofc, i am agreeing with u. u misunderstood my intentions ;)
[2017-01-21 03:29:27] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-21 03:29:55] Rado : paniktrade has no clue
[2017-01-21 03:29:58] Rado : lol
[2017-01-21 03:30:06] micmix : Rado: my main problem with no leverage is greatly increased counterparty risk
[2017-01-21 03:30:32] paniktrade : Rado: cool story bro
[2017-01-21 03:30:45] micmix : I was happily paying 0.1% per day to keep 3 times less trading capital on Chinese exchanges
[2017-01-21 03:30:49] paniktrade : "the bots are off" lmao
[2017-01-21 03:32:05] paniktrade : micmix: you were runnin some MM bots no?
[2017-01-21 03:32:07] wurstgelee : fomoooooooooo
[2017-01-21 03:32:09] wurstgelee : :p
[2017-01-21 03:32:13] paniktrade : how would fees affect u?
[2017-01-21 03:32:27] paniktrade : im genuinely curious
[2017-01-21 03:32:29] wurstgelee : paniktrade: bigger spread
[2017-01-21 03:32:39] wurstgelee : thats all ;)
[2017-01-21 03:34:05] micmix : paniktrade: trading fees are main profit killer. every MM who pays fees has to increase the spread to compensate. if there is a house MM that doesn't have to pay fees it's hard to compete
[2017-01-21 03:35:04] paniktrade : micmix: heard about okc cutting off competing MM bots, you think they have a house MM?
[2017-01-21 03:35:10] sleger : alejandromasari: wave your hand and say "bye bye"
[2017-01-21 03:35:41] paniktrade : micmix: also would potentially get less liquidity no?
[2017-01-21 03:35:50] Rado : over 915 we go to 940-950
[2017-01-21 03:36:02] narnarfromnarnia : Rado: really?
[2017-01-21 03:36:03] narnarfromnarnia : 4hr?
[2017-01-21 03:36:05] narnarfromnarnia : crossing
[2017-01-21 03:36:10] narnarfromnarnia : i think this was stop loss on 4hr traders
[2017-01-21 03:36:27] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/aGE9rqoj/
[2017-01-21 03:36:49] paniktrade : stop losses at 6350
[2017-01-21 03:36:54] paniktrade : still got abit left
[2017-01-21 03:37:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 909.79
[2017-01-21 03:37:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 910.64
[2017-01-21 03:37:57] wurstgelee : paniktrade: not much
[2017-01-21 03:38:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3 @ 912.10 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-21 03:38:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 90 @ 928.72
[2017-01-21 03:38:02] wurstgelee : 6350 ;)
[2017-01-21 03:38:13] micmix : paniktrade: less liquidity as a consequence of lower profits and increased risks
[2017-01-21 03:38:31] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2017-01-21 03:38:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2492 @ 912.95
[2017-01-21 03:40:20] Rado : shorted ETC
[2017-01-21 03:40:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 200 @ 916.43
[2017-01-21 03:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 919.34
[2017-01-21 03:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10001 @ 917.64
[2017-01-21 03:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 918.90
[2017-01-21 03:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 919.20
[2017-01-21 03:40:37] paniktrade : micmix: thanks, you affirm my thought which ive been tellin these people that are like "WE love fees"
[2017-01-21 03:40:42] guacamole : no specific news driving the pump, is there?
[2017-01-21 03:40:55] Dtrade16 : Wow
[2017-01-21 03:41:01] Dtrade16 : What's going on guys
[2017-01-21 03:41:12] Rado : fomo
[2017-01-21 03:41:16] sleger : Dtrade16: rapid is short
[2017-01-21 03:41:24] Rado : lol sleger
[2017-01-21 03:41:28] paniktrade : micmix: 0% fees are good for MM. and if MM is havin a good time so will the traders
[2017-01-21 03:41:39] micmix : pretty much
[2017-01-21 03:42:04] Rado : maker fee is better than 0 fee
[2017-01-21 03:43:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 2 @ 0.001537
[2017-01-21 03:43:42] Rado : by the way my theory is that BTC will go up way more when Chinese bots are not running
[2017-01-21 03:43:50] Rado : will be simple demand from people buying and holding
[2017-01-21 03:43:59] Apocalyptic : Rapid gonna rage
[2017-01-21 03:44:09] ryvirath : is bitmex wally here?
[2017-01-21 03:44:11] Apocalyptic : "gaise wtf is this"
[2017-01-21 03:44:14] Rado : where is rapidtrades?
[2017-01-21 03:44:32] BitMEX_Greg : ryvirath: Can I help?
[2017-01-21 03:46:06] sleger : it's not because he's red too that you have to do it
[2017-01-21 03:46:24] ryvirath : hey greg, question
[2017-01-21 03:47:01] ryvirath : I have three lights lit on my ADL; I have no idea how close that makes me to an ADL, but I'd rather not be deleveraged and I have plenty of capital to move here. Would that lower might position in the queue?
[2017-01-21 03:47:14] ryvirath : my*
[2017-01-21 03:47:31] Dtrade16 : sleger: nice
[2017-01-21 03:48:01] BitMEX_Greg : ryvirath: You can lower your leverage
[2017-01-21 03:48:15] ryvirath : right, does that lower my position in the queue?
[2017-01-21 03:48:18] BitMEX_Greg : ryvirath: You can read more about the process here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2017-01-21 03:48:31] BitMEX_Greg : Yes, the priority is based on profit and leverage
[2017-01-21 03:48:53] ryvirath : ok, thanks
[2017-01-21 03:49:20] sleger : ryvirath: 3 lights is no worry
[2017-01-21 03:50:14] l3f : Shorts rekt
[2017-01-21 03:50:29] Rado : I have 4 lights on ETC
[2017-01-21 03:51:22] ryvirath : sleger: I'd like to hold this position for another 20% at least. I'm at x5 on a fairly large position. I think the bot would call it mega rekt
[2017-01-21 03:51:46] ryvirath : in terms of size
[2017-01-21 03:51:57] Rado : ryvirath: ADL is not a REKT
[2017-01-21 03:52:16] sleger : i understood what he meant
[2017-01-21 03:52:19] ryvirath : right, but this is a great position I want to keep, potentially until close
[2017-01-21 03:52:24] sleger : rektosaurus is the highest
[2017-01-21 03:52:28] ryvirath : close of the quarterly
[2017-01-21 03:52:42] Rado : so 50k?
[2017-01-21 03:52:48] ryvirath : bit higher
[2017-01-21 03:52:55] guacamole : i'd have to look at the formula, but if you have a large position i think you're gonna be near first in line regardless
[2017-01-21 03:53:06] l3f : Rado: Rapid is an inverse indicator
[2017-01-21 03:53:13] l3f : You have learn to trade rapid
[2017-01-21 03:53:37] guacamole : but you don't just get deleveraged randomly, it's only when the market moves too fast for people to come in and cover the other side
[2017-01-21 03:53:43] Rado : l3f: don't believe what he posts
[2017-01-21 03:54:22] ryvirath : guacamole: I guess my question is if I deleverage from x5 to x3 by adding capital to my position does that help me not get ADLd?
[2017-01-21 03:54:42] sleger : ryvirath: it helps, but 3 lights is safe
[2017-01-21 03:55:01] sleger : 5 lights means you're in the top 20% to be adl i believe
[2017-01-21 03:55:20] sleger : even 4 lights is safe
[2017-01-21 03:55:23] Rado : We will retest 910-915
[2017-01-21 03:55:28] ryvirath : ah, ok. three lights seemed scary
[2017-01-21 03:56:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 640 @ 0.011630
[2017-01-21 03:56:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 4200 @ 0.011560
[2017-01-21 03:56:40] Rado : shit
[2017-01-21 03:56:45] Rado : forgot to short ETH as well
[2017-01-21 03:58:34] Rado : ryvirath: I had 3 and 4 lights and never got ADL
[2017-01-21 03:59:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 20000 @ 0.001522
[2017-01-21 03:59:38] Rado : 20k liquidation on ETC
[2017-01-21 04:07:06] Rado : lets see 0.0014s
[2017-01-21 04:07:21] l3f : sleger: you're holding 900k position rofl
[2017-01-21 04:07:27] l3f : the balls
[2017-01-21 04:07:31] l3f : of stell
[2017-01-21 04:07:33] l3f : steel*
[2017-01-21 04:10:21] sleger : just reduced a bit actually
[2017-01-21 04:10:53] username123 : ummm so I had 7000 contracts that I opened at 890 and now I come back to check and my position has disappeared
[2017-01-21 04:10:55] sleger : was mostly long 0kc weekly at a discount and they switched to decent premium
[2017-01-21 04:11:02] username123 : i see no record of it in my history either
[2017-01-21 04:11:06] username123 : WTF??!
[2017-01-21 04:11:15] username123 : has this happened to anyone before?
[2017-01-21 04:11:19] sleger : username123: no
[2017-01-21 04:11:43] username123 : can I report this somehow?
[2017-01-21 04:12:19] sleger : username123: john.doe@bitmex.com
[2017-01-21 04:12:45] username123 : is that sarcasm?
[2017-01-21 04:13:05] MikeHunt : u know when sledger reduces a long that doom is on the way
[2017-01-21 04:13:20] yungyang : shut up mike
[2017-01-21 04:13:31] MikeHunt : yungyang: did u long the top? y so mad?
[2017-01-21 04:13:49] yungyang : long on etc from 13
[2017-01-21 04:14:02] yungyang : long on btc from 890
[2017-01-21 04:14:03] yungyang : so yeah
[2017-01-21 04:15:37] MikeHunt : yungyang: ouch
[2017-01-21 04:15:57] narnarfromnarnia : username123: ADL?
[2017-01-21 04:16:07] narnarfromnarnia : you can ask support here in the chat to look into it
[2017-01-21 04:16:11] narnarfromnarnia : let us know what happened
[2017-01-21 04:16:20] MikeHunt : yungyang: seems ur ok, might wanna close etc since its peaked
[2017-01-21 04:16:34] yungyang : closed at 16 fam
[2017-01-21 04:16:39] yungyang : good looks tho
[2017-01-21 04:16:40] MikeHunt : nice
[2017-01-21 04:16:41] username123 : I dont think it was ADL because I no longer even have my opening amount
[2017-01-21 04:16:47] yungyang : hold on
[2017-01-21 04:16:55] yungyang : that's not your REAL name is it, Mr. Hunt?
[2017-01-21 04:17:20] username123 : i opened at 890 with around 0.14 bitcoins and now im sure it would have been up to like 0.50 bitcoin, but my account is empty
[2017-01-21 04:17:29] cfghh : Papou says btc is going to crash
[2017-01-21 04:17:40] sleger : username123: and no email ?
[2017-01-21 04:17:57] micmix : username123: check your email, most likely you got liquidated
[2017-01-21 04:18:27] sleger : deposit more and try again, it's fun
[2017-01-21 04:19:28] Rado : 0.14 is not that bad for first time
[2017-01-21 04:19:34] MikeHunt : yungyang: yeh thats my name...
[2017-01-21 04:20:19] MikeHunt : cfghh: it will, just a question of when
[2017-01-21 04:21:01] narnarfromnarnia : username123: maybe you shorted vs long
[2017-01-21 04:21:23] yungyang : probably got liquidated in the okcoin flash crash
[2017-01-21 04:21:29] yungyang : check your account tab
[2017-01-21 04:21:41] username123 : no i see what happened, I bumped up the leverage and I guess fucking Bitmex flashed to 891 at some point and liquidated it
[2017-01-21 04:21:51] username123 : fucking shit liquidity
[2017-01-21 04:22:04] yungyang : chanks man
[2017-01-21 04:22:16] indika : hi im new here
[2017-01-21 04:23:33] yungyang : gday
[2017-01-21 04:24:02] 24hourz : bitmex
[2017-01-21 04:25:43] l3f : Anyone bearish?
[2017-01-21 04:26:02] paniktrade : yea all teh dead people
[2017-01-21 04:26:21] l3f : paniktrade: just as planned
[2017-01-21 04:28:12] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: no look at daily
[2017-01-21 04:28:15] narnarfromnarnia : turning over now
[2017-01-21 04:28:19] narnarfromnarnia : on huobi
[2017-01-21 04:28:29] paniktrade : narnar 100x short bro
[2017-01-21 04:28:30] paniktrade : doo it
[2017-01-21 04:28:49] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-21 04:28:54] narnarfromnarnia : i did
[2017-01-21 04:28:56] narnarfromnarnia : from 925
[2017-01-21 04:29:19] narnarfromnarnia : but its bullish breakout on 4hr
[2017-01-21 04:29:33] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/jk3PUMxL/
[2017-01-21 04:29:33] paniktrade : i dont wanna see u on the REKT
[2017-01-21 04:29:51] paniktrade : y u short then? :D
[2017-01-21 04:30:16] narnarfromnarnia : ill close it at 910
[2017-01-21 04:30:22] narnarfromnarnia : 100% roe
[2017-01-21 04:30:39] paniktrade : nice, could possibly dip ther
[2017-01-21 04:30:55] paniktrade : i wish you luck friend :D
[2017-01-21 04:31:06] narnarfromnarnia : yea usually buy signal on 4hr can be about 20-30 price off
[2017-01-21 04:31:13] narnarfromnarnia : 15m overbought
[2017-01-21 04:31:22] narnarfromnarnia : but daily is turning so that won't even matter
[2017-01-21 04:31:26] narnarfromnarnia : might be time to just close it out
[2017-01-21 04:31:34] narnarfromnarnia : 5 dollar gain is fine
[2017-01-21 04:32:04] paniktrade : ye dude lower TF indicators break during these moves
[2017-01-21 04:33:56] paniktrade : question: does the ADL only kick in when someone else gets liquidated and their order on the books doesnt get scooped up?
[2017-01-21 04:34:06] narnarfromnarnia : yeah
[2017-01-21 04:34:13] narnarfromnarnia : ADL sucks
[2017-01-21 04:34:20] narnarfromnarnia : for when you finally are in a solid trade
[2017-01-21 04:34:27] narnarfromnarnia : and you have to babysit that ish
[2017-01-21 04:34:42] paniktrade : true that
[2017-01-21 04:34:56] paniktrade : but better than than socialized losses no?
[2017-01-21 04:48:44] rangle : hate how XBT price swings from under Kaiko price to over
[2017-01-21 04:49:04] rangle : but i guess it helped me profit
[2017-01-21 04:50:28] alejandromasari : Xbhth17 is best as btc goes up a premiums is added buy before it goes to 1000
[2017-01-21 04:53:45] l3f : sleger: one day I hope to become someone like you
[2017-01-21 04:55:12] tylerd : deactivated order confirmation, now i want to re-enable but can't find the setting
[2017-01-21 05:00:34] l3f : tylerd: https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences
[2017-01-21 05:02:00] tylerd : l3f: great, thanks
[2017-01-21 05:06:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 90000 @ 916.33 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-21 05:07:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 7133 @ 921.32
[2017-01-21 05:07:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 911.00
[2017-01-21 05:07:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 51594 @ 910.67 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-21 05:07:41] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-01-21 05:08:36] Papou : LOL
[2017-01-21 05:08:44] narnarfromnarnia : ouch
[2017-01-21 05:08:45] Papou : who the fuck longed 910+
[2017-01-21 05:08:46] Papou : LOL
[2017-01-21 05:08:50] paniktrade : LMAO
[2017-01-21 05:10:09] l3f : Papou: Short the bottom bois
[2017-01-21 05:10:17] l3f : last chance for you to short the bottom
[2017-01-21 05:10:28] l3f : or average down
[2017-01-21 05:10:45] narnarfromnarnia : Papou: i did
[2017-01-21 05:10:56] narnarfromnarnia : just closed my 925 short too
[2017-01-21 05:11:02] narnarfromnarnia : hoodie who
[2017-01-21 05:11:33] MikeHunt : muh chart says it failed to break resistance
[2017-01-21 05:11:36] MikeHunt : down we go?
[2017-01-21 05:11:45] l3f : MikeHunt: No
[2017-01-21 05:11:47] l3f : this is a shakeout
[2017-01-21 05:11:48] l3f : hold
[2017-01-21 05:11:51] l3f : buy the dip
[2017-01-21 05:11:59] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: shakeout to 890 tho
[2017-01-21 05:12:00] yungyang : 1 level retrace
[2017-01-21 05:12:02] narnarfromnarnia : worth trading it
[2017-01-21 05:12:13] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: yeah but my positions are too big to scalp
[2017-01-21 05:12:16] l3f : you want to scalp go for it
[2017-01-21 05:12:17] Papou : what shake out...every1 long from like 830+ the whales
[2017-01-21 05:12:22] micmix : my chart says 'have a cookie'. weird how the same chart can say different things to different people
[2017-01-21 05:12:22] narnarfromnarnia : ah ok
[2017-01-21 05:12:24] herpinator : narnarfromnarnia: nice, what leverage was the position?
[2017-01-21 05:12:36] narnarfromnarnia : 50x
[2017-01-21 05:12:42] narnarfromnarnia : 100x short at 925
[2017-01-21 05:12:45] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: that's not recommended
[2017-01-21 05:12:47] narnarfromnarnia : 50x long
[2017-01-21 05:12:54] narnarfromnarnia : ya i put it way above though
[2017-01-21 05:13:06] narnarfromnarnia : didn't expect it to hit and it just droped to 920
[2017-01-21 05:13:12] narnarfromnarnia : and i waited for 910
[2017-01-21 05:13:14] narnarfromnarnia : closed it 911
[2017-01-21 05:13:24] narnarfromnarnia : im 25x now
[2017-01-21 05:13:28] narnarfromnarnia : daily is good
[2017-01-21 05:13:32] narnarfromnarnia : for up
[2017-01-21 05:13:41] MikeHunt : im cashed out for weekend
[2017-01-21 05:13:43] MikeHunt : need sleep
[2017-01-21 05:14:18] rangle : thats never a bad choice either, breaks are good
[2017-01-21 05:14:44] MikeHunt : going to bed when its dark (morning) waking up in evening (dark) was really weird
[2017-01-21 05:26:00] narnarfromnarnia : anyone trading 15m
[2017-01-21 05:26:02] narnarfromnarnia : ?
[2017-01-21 05:27:45] micmix : I'm trading 0.1s lol
[2017-01-21 05:29:26] micmix : but seriously weekly chart will tell you everything you need to know
[2017-01-21 05:29:39] narnarfromnarnia : micmix: weekly is sell signal just now
[2017-01-21 05:29:52] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ok7mjcNK/
[2017-01-21 05:30:42] micmix : like I said, everyone sees different things in the same chart
[2017-01-21 05:33:59] jzayy : 100x long and short
[2017-01-21 05:34:00] narnarfromnarnia : hidden buy orders
[2017-01-21 05:34:03] narnarfromnarnia : weeew
[2017-01-21 05:34:06] narnarfromnarnia : means up imo
[2017-01-21 05:43:50] narnarfromnarnia : i think we broke out
[2017-01-21 05:43:54] narnarfromnarnia : hodl
[2017-01-21 06:06:57] narnarfromnarnia : ya all aboard
[2017-01-21 06:07:06] narnarfromnarnia : slow pumpers 930 breaks
[2017-01-21 06:07:06] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/Ew5eCaMK/
[2017-01-21 06:07:16] narnarfromnarnia : will be stop losses triggered on daily imo
[2017-01-21 06:17:15] paniktrade : looks like bitmex gonna be late to the party
[2017-01-21 06:31:26] Apocalyptic : micmix: here ?
[2017-01-21 06:36:36] narnarfromnarnia : orderbook is caching or lagging
[2017-01-21 07:07:42] narnarfromnarnia : china pump
[2017-01-21 07:07:46] BTCKing : Weeee. $920!
[2017-01-21 07:20:22] YOLOCOIN : how come we're so low compared to other exchanges?
[2017-01-21 07:21:59] alejandromasari : not enough people bidding up
[2017-01-21 07:23:20] YOLOCOIN : got a huge discount here
[2017-01-21 07:24:07] BTCKing : It's not a discount here when you can't actually change BTC for fiat. Bitmex isn't an exchange just a derivatives market.
[2017-01-21 07:25:02] BTCKing : YOLOCOIN: The Kaiko index XBT is tracking always seems to be a lower price than big exchanges. Not sure how their weighting formula goes.
[2017-01-21 07:25:03] j8 : you can still call it a discount when it's below the index, but it's not
[2017-01-21 07:25:35] BTCKing : true
[2017-01-21 07:25:38] j8 : okc btc/usd is 50% of the index and it's at 910
[2017-01-21 07:36:07] VenCap : Bitcoin fuel fully filled, boosters engaed!
[2017-01-21 07:38:13] Nooby : Why order are canceled directly when I buy?????
[2017-01-21 07:38:39] Nooby : There is a problem here
[2017-01-21 07:39:22] Nooby : do have I to swap my money on polo or other X change??
[2017-01-21 07:42:00] Nooby : No support??
[2017-01-21 07:42:09] Derreck : shorters got rekt again? who would've thought!
[2017-01-21 07:43:36] Nooby : WTF with orders??!!!!
[2017-01-21 07:44:57] Derreck : xbth17 $13 premium! like in a good ol' times
[2017-01-21 07:45:13] narnarfromnarnia : Derreck: what does the premium mean?
[2017-01-21 07:45:19] narnarfromnarnia : just higher price?
[2017-01-21 07:45:58] alejandromasari : Nooby: untick "post only"
[2017-01-21 07:47:42] Nooby : alejandromasari: ok I will see thank you
[2017-01-21 07:58:57] paniktrade : bitmex why no 920
[2017-01-21 07:59:04] paniktrade : longs r scared? :D
[2017-01-21 07:59:26] narnarfromnarnia : paniktrade: just letting more high margin positions fill then go in whatever direction it needs to rek em
[2017-01-21 07:59:37] narnarfromnarnia : pretty much always doing that when sideways
[2017-01-21 08:00:40] narnarfromnarnia : huobi is going up
[2017-01-21 08:00:41] narnarfromnarnia : why not here
[2017-01-21 08:00:49] BitMEX_Wally : alejandromasari: Thank you for providing customer support :)
[2017-01-21 08:00:54] rangle : wheres Papou tonight
[2017-01-21 08:16:19] VenCap : Papou always cna be found in Stratis slack chat
[2017-01-21 08:17:31] Papou : right here
[2017-01-21 08:17:48] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: I used to work for customer support long a go
[2017-01-21 08:17:54] Papou : wait until mr. bearwhale wakes up
[2017-01-21 08:17:57] Papou : and dumps 15000 btc
[2017-01-21 08:18:05] Papou : gangnam style
[2017-01-21 08:18:27] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Wally: did I earn a tip?
[2017-01-21 08:18:47] VenCap : BearWhale got killing in China for Meat, no more BearWhale, sad story
[2017-01-21 08:19:17] Papou : pboc we need uuuuu
[2017-01-21 08:19:25] Papou : we need the hammer
[2017-01-21 08:19:57] narnarfromnarnia : if anything the investigations are positive thing
[2017-01-21 08:20:16] Papou : no way
[2017-01-21 08:20:23] Papou : no official word yet and they found many illegal things
[2017-01-21 08:20:28] Papou : money laundering, manipulation
[2017-01-21 08:20:29] VenCap : i agree, i see Bitcoin getting stronger next few weeks yet
[2017-01-21 08:20:47] narnarfromnarnia : Papou: yeah theyre cleaning it out
[2017-01-21 08:20:50] narnarfromnarnia : legitimizing it
[2017-01-21 08:21:00] Papou : pboc will massacre the exchanges. china wants bloood
[2017-01-21 08:21:10] narnarfromnarnia : pboc doesn't want that for traders
[2017-01-21 08:21:16] narnarfromnarnia : they want the bad guys out
[2017-01-21 08:21:17] paniktrade : fud is stronk
[2017-01-21 08:21:24] paniktrade : pls short
[2017-01-21 08:22:02] VenCap : Short to buy my Longs
[2017-01-21 08:22:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 5828 @ 0.001506
[2017-01-21 08:22:51] paniktrade : lve the no official word but i know what they found guys
[2017-01-21 08:23:11] paniktrade : they found a load of dead bears
[2017-01-21 08:23:16] narnarfromnarnia : yeah trading with algo's and made up liquidity
[2017-01-21 08:23:18] paniktrade : in the okc basement
[2017-01-21 08:23:43] paniktrade : trading with algos so 80s
[2017-01-21 08:24:02] narnarfromnarnia : or whatever its called bots
[2017-01-21 08:24:06] narnarfromnarnia : high frequency stuff
[2017-01-21 08:24:17] paniktrade : nuffin wrong with that
[2017-01-21 08:24:31] VenCap : dump people dump in me.
[2017-01-21 08:24:35] VenCap : my body is ready
[2017-01-21 08:24:46] VenCap : killing weak hands since 2012
[2017-01-21 08:25:56] narnarfromnarnia : so there's still alot of shorts leveraged open right now
[2017-01-21 08:26:04] narnarfromnarnia : even though they canceled new margin lending
[2017-01-21 08:26:10] narnarfromnarnia : which means those all have to close
[2017-01-21 08:26:22] narnarfromnarnia : and no margin to sell short
[2017-01-21 08:26:41] narnarfromnarnia : lot of open short contracts i'm guessing over there and people probably freaking about getting btc out
[2017-01-21 08:26:41] paniktrade : time for okc to chip the last margin shorts
[2017-01-21 08:26:44] paniktrade : :D
[2017-01-21 08:26:49] paniktrade : no mercy
[2017-01-21 08:26:54] paniktrade : all must die, the pboc demands it
[2017-01-21 08:27:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 700 @ 0.001487
[2017-01-21 08:27:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 65 @ 0.001490
[2017-01-21 08:27:36] VenCap : +100
[2017-01-21 08:32:53] narnarfromnarnia : whales have enough btc with 5x to crush the open shorts i'd assume
[2017-01-21 08:33:17] narnarfromnarnia : 930 and stop losses trigger
[2017-01-21 08:42:18] VenCap : you think we cna see 930 here today?
[2017-01-21 08:43:37] narnarfromnarnia : VenCap: ya its coming
[2017-01-21 08:43:51] narnarfromnarnia : china breaks 6400 its coming
[2017-01-21 08:43:55] VenCap : Great i was thinking the same
[2017-01-21 08:46:38] VenCap : insane buys on okcoin quaters
[2017-01-21 08:49:39] alejandromasari : President Trump has accumulated a big stash of bitcoin so that he will be insulated when the US dollar Crashes in June
[2017-01-21 08:51:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 360 @ 912.24
[2017-01-21 08:51:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 64080 @ 910.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-21 08:51:43] Papou : ouch
[2017-01-21 08:52:01] narnarfromnarnia : wow
[2017-01-21 08:52:05] narnarfromnarnia : who went 100x there
[2017-01-21 08:52:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 910.35
[2017-01-21 08:52:08] narnarfromnarnia : geez
[2017-01-21 08:53:28] Papou : thats why u dont high leverage
[2017-01-21 08:53:31] Papou : rekt city
[2017-01-21 08:53:52] narnarfromnarnia : that was a lotta money
[2017-01-21 08:53:54] narnarfromnarnia : ouch
[2017-01-21 08:54:07] narnarfromnarnia : buy time
[2017-01-21 08:55:11] narnarfromnarnia : must have been a 925 buy
[2017-01-21 08:55:16] micmix : just relax and enjoy the ride on the moon train
[2017-01-21 08:56:21] VenCap : Final shake down. Clear. Moontrap
[2017-01-21 08:56:36] KyllingLolsson : I once saw some one lose 50 000 $ here
[2017-01-21 08:57:40] KyllingLolsson : Liquidate
[2017-01-21 08:58:05] laisee : I once saw someone betting 50BTC a time on just-dice.com. degen gamblers all around ... ;-)
[2017-01-21 08:58:23] KyllingLolsson : Ugh
[2017-01-21 08:58:54] micmix : I once saw someone giving 0.5 btc to a total stranger bc he guessed a book title
[2017-01-21 08:59:02] micmix : oh wait, that was me ;-)
[2017-01-21 08:59:11] KyllingLolsson : Lol
[2017-01-21 08:59:25] KyllingLolsson : Give me that
[2017-01-21 09:06:20] KyllingLolsson : God, i want tacos
[2017-01-21 09:07:02] KyllingLolsson : Or kebab pizza
[2017-01-21 09:07:26] KyllingLolsson : Do not remove kebab!!!!
[2017-01-21 09:07:39] VenCap : get your popcorn, we about to go green hard.. like Shrek on Viagra overdose
[2017-01-21 09:07:45] musta : how of often mark price updates>
[2017-01-21 09:09:14] KyllingLolsson : My swamp is shrekd
[2017-01-21 09:09:32] VenCap : Mark Price means what exactly?
[2017-01-21 09:09:37] VenCap : My entry price is my true avg right?
[2017-01-21 09:10:44] Nooby : Lol when someone says green it will be red becareful guys
[2017-01-21 09:10:58] VenCap : nooby. it is green though
[2017-01-21 09:11:23] KyllingLolsson : Any one willing to donate some bits? ?
[2017-01-21 09:11:41] rangle : to what charity?
[2017-01-21 09:11:42] VenCap : if you have to beg, your title is Smeg
[2017-01-21 09:11:48] Nooby : Green yes but not BIG green
[2017-01-21 09:11:49] VenCap : STSH foundation
[2017-01-21 09:11:54] VenCap : Save the Smeg Head
[2017-01-21 09:12:00] VenCap : (red dwarf)
[2017-01-21 09:12:02] KyllingLolsson : Yes my own chatity
[2017-01-21 09:12:25] rangle : do you have a non-profit?
[2017-01-21 09:13:05] KyllingLolsson : No ? i just want to trade, just joking around
[2017-01-21 09:13:49] rangle : im just extremely bored and messing with you
[2017-01-21 09:14:35] Nooby : LOL here we are RED
[2017-01-21 09:14:40] KyllingLolsson : Do some crosswords
[2017-01-21 09:16:11] KyllingLolsson : Do the dishes
[2017-01-21 09:16:23] KyllingLolsson : Vacum clean
[2017-01-21 09:16:38] VenCap : and
[2017-01-21 09:16:41] VenCap : boom
[2017-01-21 09:17:04] Nooby : VenCap: lol i m still waiting guy...
[2017-01-21 09:17:28] rangle : $2 range still bored, cant do chores atm
[2017-01-21 09:17:31] VenCap : good things come to those who wait.
[2017-01-21 09:17:50] Nooby : Oh yeah but green?? Not sure...
[2017-01-21 09:20:31] VenCap : should be 918 not far away here
[2017-01-21 09:22:01] Nooby : 918 is not a BOOM dude
[2017-01-21 09:24:09] Nooby : Someone interested in buying VUITTON bag from France??
[2017-01-21 09:24:52] VenCap : real LV bag from china you mean? :P
[2017-01-21 09:25:47] WarWarBanana : Any Bitmex staff online atm?
[2017-01-21 09:27:15] Nooby : No no you order it in France and I send I send to you for 0.25btc commission
[2017-01-21 09:27:41] Derreck : narnarfromnarnia yes higher price
[2017-01-21 09:28:41] narnarfromnarnia : Derreck: hu
[2017-01-21 09:29:06] VenCap : wow just 250 dollars give or take commission. fair deal!
[2017-01-21 09:29:14] Derreck : didn't see this pump coming.
[2017-01-21 09:30:02] VenCap : i did yesterday at 895. tons of buys and big support on bitstamp unusually high
[2017-01-21 09:30:09] VenCap : always a good sig
[2017-01-21 09:30:11] VenCap : sign
[2017-01-21 09:30:28] VenCap : $930 for sure.
[2017-01-21 09:38:31] VenCap : Nom
[2017-01-21 09:38:49] VenCap : nom
[2017-01-21 09:43:44] Derreck : lol @ those who predicted 720-750 for the last days
[2017-01-21 09:45:38] VenCap : RIP shorters
[2017-01-21 09:48:13] VenCap : but, it does not last forever....
[2017-01-21 09:49:22] VenCap : bot battle
[2017-01-21 09:51:14] rangle : does KNCMiner still operate?
[2017-01-21 09:52:14] BTCDJS : After we go up to 900s we may go back down to 800s. Watch all the shorters come out again and say that they told everyone so
[2017-01-21 09:54:14] VenCap : i think sot shorters are under busses right now
[2017-01-21 09:54:55] longbydefault : predictions should have a time frame so that it's valid... bitcoin price always goes up and down so everybody is right eventually
[2017-01-21 09:55:09] longbydefault : if there is no time frame...
[2017-01-21 09:55:25] QuantFocus : but you're long by default
[2017-01-21 09:55:27] VenCap : +100
[2017-01-21 09:55:40] longbydefault : yes i am... im trading only 10% and holding the rest
[2017-01-21 09:55:47] Derreck : Trading volume is very small though. (0kcoin + huobi + btcc) == $800M, and its still dropping
[2017-01-21 09:56:05] QuantFocus : well it's hard without 20x
[2017-01-21 09:57:30] Derreck : QuantFocus: aye
[2017-01-21 09:59:30] rangle : dont lose the forest for the trees though, BTC marketcap is peanuts compared to total wealth in china
[2017-01-21 09:59:58] rangle : leverage or not
[2017-01-21 10:01:51] VenCap : $920 sweet
[2017-01-21 10:03:18] Derreck : dunno is this still a good indicator but 0kcoin is remaining bullish. 33% vs 30%
[2017-01-21 10:03:43] VenCap : $930 next stop
[2017-01-21 10:03:50] narnarfromnarnia : what about the open margin positions
[2017-01-21 10:03:53] narnarfromnarnia : they're all shorts
[2017-01-21 10:04:00] narnarfromnarnia : assuming
[2017-01-21 10:04:16] narnarfromnarnia : and they will have to close them if there's a long squeeze and no margin to sell
[2017-01-21 10:04:28] narnarfromnarnia : so i dunno seems like you just want to hold
[2017-01-21 10:06:01] VenCap : really want to see Bitcoin over $1k and hold that price
[2017-01-21 10:09:57] Derreck : VenCap: yes 1k would be very sweet
[2017-01-21 10:10:42] abz : Bitcoin is bullish but the money flow is negative http://zentrade.online/bitcoinusd-price-action-analysis-bitmex-perpetual-swap-xbtusd-update-20170121/
[2017-01-21 10:11:38] VenCap : so imagine when money is positive.. $2 k a coin easy
[2017-01-21 10:12:42] narnarfromnarnia : abz: mf negative because margin trading is wiped in china
[2017-01-21 10:13:03] abz : narnarfromnarnia: yep!
[2017-01-21 10:13:03] narnarfromnarnia : and real mf is off the books
[2017-01-21 10:13:16] abz : VenCap: 1600 by Nov 2017 http://zentrade.online/bitcoin-price-action-update-20170113/
[2017-01-21 10:15:03] Derreck : waiting for the good ol' $50 premium for xbth17
[2017-01-21 10:17:06] Derreck : abz: at first I thought u mean 1600CNY and that was lol
[2017-01-21 10:26:33] abz : Derreck: he-he, 1600CNY is not bad for the good buy...
[2017-01-21 10:36:46] BTCDJS : I'm not trading Alts on here again
[2017-01-21 10:40:12] PARAFFIN : we will see at least 840
[2017-01-21 10:40:59] PARAFFIN : for(int x = 0;x != fsize; x++) { s[x] ^= XOR_KEY; printf("%c",s[x]); }
[2017-01-21 10:41:10] PARAFFIN : op