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[2017-01-20 23:58:45] Papou : i got lucky i suppose
[2017-01-20 23:59:18] BTCDJS : If you got lucky why aren't you being more humble
[2017-01-20 23:59:20] Papou : i went for a big position, it was a mistake, never again
[2017-01-20 23:59:21] yungyang : 7 btc is way too much to keep hot though fam
[2017-01-20 23:59:26] Papou : i had 48000 contracts
[2017-01-20 23:59:28] Papou : at 850
[2017-01-20 23:59:31] Papou : short
[2017-01-20 23:59:32] abbey : Papou: u didn't short the crash, why?
[2017-01-20 23:59:40] micmix : Apocalyptic: I do combination of skewing quotes, hedging and reducing size or removing quotes altogether on one side in extreme cases
[2017-01-21 00:00:29] micmix : also taking liquidity, it depends
[2017-01-21 00:00:34] Papou : short what crash?
[2017-01-21 00:00:57] Kinda : so we either see a big red candle on btc or a big green
[2017-01-21 00:01:07] Papou : i was already short at 850 but we bull ran
[2017-01-21 00:01:12] Apocalyptic : micmix: thanks for your input
[2017-01-21 00:01:21] micmix : Apocalyptic: np
[2017-01-21 00:01:29] abbey : Papou: ok, mb
[2017-01-21 00:01:59] Papou : i had taken a big position because i got greedy, wanted to make 2-3 btc and take a break for few days
[2017-01-21 00:02:00] Papou : never again
[2017-01-21 00:02:20] Papou : this is a job for me hopefully, just watch charts all day pretty much and figure out a safe swing zone
[2017-01-21 00:02:30] Papou : 7 btc stays on account, withdraw profit
[2017-01-21 00:02:47] Papou : stick between 14000-28000 contracts max
[2017-01-21 00:02:56] Papou : maybe one day i lose, who knows
[2017-01-21 00:03:11] longbydefault : that's a certainty
[2017-01-21 00:03:32] abbey : Papou: but you should've known dem moves, you know so much about these things
[2017-01-21 00:03:34] BTCDJS : No it's not. He's a winner
[2017-01-21 00:03:34] Papou : ill start stop lossing more aggressive when im up more profit
[2017-01-21 00:04:00] yungyang : phallacy
[2017-01-21 00:04:12] longbydefault : 1 wk and he has it all figured out! watch out
[2017-01-21 00:04:17] Papou : as long as u dont buy top of a pump u should be fine in crypto
[2017-01-21 00:04:24] Papou : to break even at the minimum if u hold
[2017-01-21 00:04:51] Papou : if something is up 10% dont touch it, simple
[2017-01-21 00:04:59] Papou : just pass and wait
[2017-01-21 00:05:25] BTCDJS : It's simple guys
[2017-01-21 00:05:33] abbey : Papou: wow, so simple
[2017-01-21 00:05:38] MikeHunt : how do you make money on <$10 swings with 7BTC?
[2017-01-21 00:05:42] Papou : why u guys longing right now
[2017-01-21 00:05:43] Papou : i dont get it
[2017-01-21 00:05:46] Papou : why do u think it will pump
[2017-01-21 00:05:52] Papou : it just pumped 830-910
[2017-01-21 00:05:53] Papou : wtf
[2017-01-21 00:06:00] Papou : and failed 3 times
[2017-01-21 00:06:05] Papou : its done
[2017-01-21 00:06:13] MikeHunt : Papou: normalcy bias
[2017-01-21 00:06:23] Papou : better chances short now
[2017-01-21 00:06:35] Papou : it bull runs, just market long futures or cny
[2017-01-21 00:06:37] Papou : short xbt
[2017-01-21 00:06:45] Papou : it will retrace and test this level as support
[2017-01-21 00:06:49] BTCDJS : Listen to him. He knows what he's talking about
[2017-01-21 00:06:49] Papou : so ull get out even
[2017-01-21 00:07:01] MikeHunt : Papou: how do you make money on <$10 swings with 7BTC?
[2017-01-21 00:07:19] aethlios : Papou: they retrace every dump 100%, so all afraid to short.
[2017-01-21 00:07:32] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: he knows every move bitcoin makes
[2017-01-21 00:07:42] BTCDJS : its simple
[2017-01-21 00:08:15] Papou : mike u catch a few swings
[2017-01-21 00:08:17] Papou : depends
[2017-01-21 00:08:24] Papou : i dont know man maybe im lucky
[2017-01-21 00:08:26] Papou : who knows
[2017-01-21 00:08:47] Papou : like clearly we ping ponging between 886-905 safe ranges
[2017-01-21 00:08:59] Papou : next big move will be bear though
[2017-01-21 00:09:02] Papou : since it was bull
[2017-01-21 00:09:29] Papou : and vice versa until next bull run, ill start longing 740 and average down
[2017-01-21 00:09:48] MikeHunt : i suppose with $2.70 threshold its possible
[2017-01-21 00:10:25] Kinda : Papou: you trde on yun or usd?
[2017-01-21 00:10:34] Papou : both
[2017-01-21 00:10:45] Papou : all 3 actually
[2017-01-21 00:10:47] abbey : Papou: thanx, now that we know that, we all can get rich! Let's just do what Papou says here. This is great!
[2017-01-21 00:10:49] Papou : depends on the price ranges
[2017-01-21 00:11:00] Papou : well im telling u if u all used less leverage
[2017-01-21 00:11:11] Papou : i bet many times u get liquidated and it always retraces to the price
[2017-01-21 00:11:16] Papou : just had bad timing right?
[2017-01-21 00:11:22] longbydefault : you're talking about nogano
[2017-01-21 00:12:02] Apocalyptic : longbydefault: where's the nog btw ? got rekt one time too many ?
[2017-01-21 00:12:18] Papou : that guy just gambles
[2017-01-21 00:12:28] Papou : and take small positions first
[2017-01-21 00:12:29] BTCDJS : Can't decide if he is a presumer or an assumer ?
[2017-01-21 00:12:32] Papou : and average into the direction its going
[2017-01-21 00:12:35] MikeHunt : longbydefault: hes got new account "I love jesus"
[2017-01-21 00:13:46] BTCDJS : Assumer because it has the word ass in it
[2017-01-21 00:13:49] abbey : MikeHunt: i think he got banned
[2017-01-21 00:14:41] sleger : Apocalyptic: I think he was banned
[2017-01-21 00:14:47] MikeHunt : abbey: yeh, 24hr ban
[2017-01-21 00:15:17] MikeHunt : although making new acc. may have made that a perma
[2017-01-21 00:16:08] abbey : yep
[2017-01-21 00:16:26] Noobz : I thought one was allowed to have multiple accounts?
[2017-01-21 00:17:11] micmix : yes, but making new account to escape the ban is big no-no
[2017-01-21 00:17:25] Noobz : true enough
[2017-01-21 00:29:09] thedoc : dang the first ban happened and i missed it
[2017-01-21 00:29:48] thedoc : i'm so glad xbth17 has a premium again. time to short and wait for it to go negative
[2017-01-21 00:29:50] thedoc : silly bulls
[2017-01-21 00:39:04] Papou : keep it open for a bit, u will make a lot of money
[2017-01-21 00:41:41] micmix : thedoc: wasn't the first ban. rapidtrades is ban champion here with 2 bans. the third one will be permanent for him
[2017-01-21 00:43:42] narnarfromnarnia : 100k ask here
[2017-01-21 00:43:44] narnarfromnarnia : hmm
[2017-01-21 00:47:57] narnarfromnarnia : seems like holding it down for a up move?
[2017-01-21 00:52:28] thedoc : didnt know rapidtrader was such a master troll
[2017-01-21 00:53:03] thedoc : 100k is nothin
[2017-01-21 00:53:17] thedoc : anyone with like 2 btc could easily clear that out
[2017-01-21 00:55:03] thedoc : but ETC is actually where the money is being made right now
[2017-01-21 00:55:16] thedoc : once this bull flag breaks up easy 400% profit on 20x
[2017-01-21 00:55:33] RocketScience : I love you
[2017-01-21 00:55:38] RocketScience : All
[2017-01-21 00:56:01] l3f : thedoc: what are you talking about rapidtrades is the best trader here
[2017-01-21 00:56:06] l3f : he's famous in China
[2017-01-21 00:56:12] l3f : he's like a trading celebrity
[2017-01-21 00:57:09] sleger : I'm only responsible for 2 of his bans
[2017-01-21 01:16:58] MikeHunt : RocketScience: nog?
[2017-01-21 01:18:08] CaptainDean : why did he get ban ?
[2017-01-21 01:22:39] MikeHunt : trump doing what i said
[2017-01-21 01:22:41] MikeHunt : dereg
[2017-01-21 01:22:52] MikeHunt : just signed exec. order to ease off obamacare
[2017-01-21 01:23:05] MikeHunt : and sent memo to all Fed agencies to stop making new regs
[2017-01-21 01:25:51] CaptainDean : I just hope he makes so much shit that poeple learn from it forever
[2017-01-21 01:26:39] CaptainDean : He closed the climate change part of the whitehouse web site also
[2017-01-21 01:28:57] MikeHunt : CaptainDean: thats a good start
[2017-01-21 01:29:08] MikeHunt : time to end the climate change bs
[2017-01-21 01:29:12] thedoc : etc breaking up
[2017-01-21 01:29:50] thedoc : we need a MAGA coin
[2017-01-21 01:30:20] MikeHunt : PRC looking into coin for country
[2017-01-21 01:30:34] MikeHunt : RMBCoin
[2017-01-21 01:31:08] MikeHunt : no doubt linked to sesame credit
[2017-01-21 01:31:47] MikeHunt : "because keeping private keys (yourself) is troublesome, one of the banks services in future will be keeping private keys for customers"
[2017-01-21 01:34:21] Rado : MikeHunt: That's exactly what's crypto currencies are not
[2017-01-21 01:34:27] Rado : bank holding my keys
[2017-01-21 01:34:33] Rado : are you crazy
[2017-01-21 01:35:25] MikeHunt : Rado: i bet the PRC are licking their chops at the idea
[2017-01-21 01:39:50] thedoc : so funny people wanna buy ETC. such a shitcoin
[2017-01-21 01:40:38] sleger : ETC is awesome
[2017-01-21 01:42:57] thedoc : almost a new high. i told you n00bs to long.
[2017-01-21 01:44:20] yungyang : been long from 13 fam
[2017-01-21 01:45:56] yungyang : anyone have barrys address
[2017-01-21 01:46:09] yungyang : need to send him a fruit basket
[2017-01-21 01:46:09] MikeHunt : PBoC would also control (RMBCoins) total supply
[2017-01-21 01:49:06] micmix : all major currency will be digitized, it's inevitable. dollar is over 90% digital anyway
[2017-01-21 01:49:13] micmix : *currencies
[2017-01-21 01:50:45] thedoc : i was looking at ETC before settlement. should have longed the shit out of it as soon as settlement happened
[2017-01-21 01:50:49] knikky : almost new high?
[2017-01-21 01:50:50] knikky : wat
[2017-01-21 01:51:16] MikeHunt : as this goes up the MFI drops
[2017-01-21 01:51:43] knikky : etc>
[2017-01-21 01:51:44] knikky : ?
[2017-01-21 01:51:52] MikeHunt : btc
[2017-01-21 01:52:31] thedoc : new ETC high
[2017-01-21 01:52:35] thedoc : bubble confirmed
[2017-01-21 01:53:04] thedoc : but i'm guessing some etc n00bs will dump cause they hate money
[2017-01-21 01:53:42] knikky : think it's going to the sky?
[2017-01-21 01:54:12] thedoc : 0.002 at least
[2017-01-21 01:54:18] knikky : i think it dumps back down in a day or two
[2017-01-21 01:57:14] thedoc : then long it for a day or two then short it
[2017-01-21 01:57:59] thedoc : damn etc holders building walls to hold down the price. remove walls??? sell higher!!!
[2017-01-21 02:00:14] thedoc : nice buy on etc
[2017-01-21 02:05:05] thedoc : 0.0016 wall being eaten
[2017-01-21 02:05:21] thedoc : buyers are out in full force
[2017-01-21 02:05:22] thedoc : choochoo
[2017-01-21 02:10:00] Apocalyptic : moon
[2017-01-21 02:11:10] thedoc : btc breaking out
[2017-01-21 02:11:24] thedoc : unless double top dump
[2017-01-21 02:13:05] l3f : where are the shorters now?
[2017-01-21 02:13:20] thedoc : market closing
[2017-01-21 02:13:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 2000 @ 0.001598
[2017-01-21 02:13:22] thedoc : and jacking up the premium
[2017-01-21 02:13:26] 24hourz : dude the 1 min charts are going full vertical
[2017-01-21 02:13:32] Apocalyptic : l3f: wait til Papou gets back
[2017-01-21 02:13:33] thedoc : lol rip that person longing etc top on high margin
[2017-01-21 02:13:38] 24hourz : shorters get rekt son
[2017-01-21 02:13:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 11000 @ 6292.1
[2017-01-21 02:13:47] sleger : for every 1$ btc goes up, I make more than 1 btc in profit :)
[2017-01-21 02:13:47] l3f : shorts will have their reckoning
[2017-01-21 02:14:11] guacamole : me selling off some shares to minimize risk was apparently the signal for the market to start going up
[2017-01-21 02:14:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 31 @ 896.61
[2017-01-21 02:14:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 22 @ 896.98
[2017-01-21 02:14:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 896.94
[2017-01-21 02:14:30] aandy : been waitin
[2017-01-21 02:14:32] thedoc : 13,500 BTC still short on Bitfinex. why dont they close when the price dumped
[2017-01-21 02:14:33] thedoc : fucking idiots
[2017-01-21 02:14:46] l3f : solid dildo for Papou to ride on
[2017-01-21 02:15:10] sleger : papou is averaging up
[2017-01-21 02:15:11] Apocalyptic : sleger: solid
[2017-01-21 02:15:16] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2017-01-21 02:15:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1 @ 898.11 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-21 02:15:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 44600 @ 899.04
[2017-01-21 02:16:11] Apocalyptic : "for every 1$ btc goes up, I make more than 1 btc in profit " what's the position that allows that ?
[2017-01-21 02:16:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1300 @ 901.59
[2017-01-21 02:16:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1500 @ 916.85
[2017-01-21 02:16:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10001 @ 902.53
[2017-01-21 02:16:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 902.56
[2017-01-21 02:16:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15995 @ 903.15
[2017-01-21 02:17:17] thedoc : china dumping.
[2017-01-21 02:17:22] thedoc : the ol' fake out pump to only dump
[2017-01-21 02:17:34] thedoc : oh shit rekt bot got new material
[2017-01-21 02:17:53] sleger : Apocalyptic: cant you do maths ?
[2017-01-21 02:17:54] thedoc : eREKTion haha good one
[2017-01-21 02:18:07] Apocalyptic : sleger: I can,m lazy tonight
[2017-01-21 02:18:33] sleger : pretty easy though
[2017-01-21 02:18:45] thedoc : shorting ETC on BTC breakout would have been easy money
[2017-01-21 02:19:02] 24hourz : going up
[2017-01-21 02:19:17] 24hourz : someone short this thing. moon rocket needs fuel
[2017-01-21 02:19:22] ryvirath : where's papou
[2017-01-21 02:19:27] ryvirath : bigwigs
[2017-01-21 02:19:30] sleger : 6ft down
[2017-01-21 02:20:01] l3f : ryvirath: he's rekt
[2017-01-21 02:20:38] l3f : Talk shit get hit rofl
[2017-01-21 02:20:49] Papou : this is nothing
[2017-01-21 02:20:55] Papou : im not wreked. relax.
[2017-01-21 02:21:10] l3f : Papou: Not a bad place to short
[2017-01-21 02:21:14] l3f : if the breakout fails
[2017-01-21 02:21:16] sleger : average up papou
[2017-01-21 02:21:20] Papou : i averaged a bit yep
[2017-01-21 02:21:24] Papou : 1400 liquidation price, im ok
[2017-01-21 02:21:31] Papou : and im long cny
[2017-01-21 02:21:35] Papou : good profit
[2017-01-21 02:23:50] sleger : long cny against what ?
[2017-01-21 02:24:26] guacamole : probably means long btc against cny
[2017-01-21 02:24:38] l3f : long cny against btc
[2017-01-21 02:24:40] l3f : has to be that
[2017-01-21 02:24:42] l3f : because he's stupid
[2017-01-21 02:24:51] sleger : that would be really stupid
[2017-01-21 02:24:58] sleger : Papou: ?
[2017-01-21 02:25:01] l3f : but that's his style
[2017-01-21 02:25:12] yungyang : against usd
[2017-01-21 02:25:32] l3f : yungyang: this actually makes sense tbqh
[2017-01-21 02:25:58] yungyang : it does
[2017-01-21 02:26:06] yungyang : anything long against usd is a fair bet today
[2017-01-21 02:26:13] yungyang : or was, I suppose
[2017-01-21 02:30:36] thedoc : now that is a wall
[2017-01-21 02:30:38] thedoc : xbth17
[2017-01-21 02:30:53] thedoc : 500,000 contracts buy wall
[2017-01-21 02:31:11] thedoc : xbth17 is where you wanna long
[2017-01-21 02:31:14] guacamole : seems kinda silly to do that
[2017-01-21 02:31:17] thedoc : premium can shoot way high and you dont have to pay funding
[2017-01-21 02:31:19] thedoc : no brainer
[2017-01-21 02:31:56] 24hourz : moon time son
[2017-01-21 02:34:45] aethlios : noone brave to kill the wall?
[2017-01-21 02:35:00] yungyang : why is premium a good thing
[2017-01-21 02:35:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8000 @ 900.85
[2017-01-21 02:35:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 300 @ 901.75
[2017-01-21 02:35:27] paniktrade : whoa
[2017-01-21 02:35:29] paniktrade : the fuck
[2017-01-21 02:35:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 790 @ 6380.6
[2017-01-21 02:35:32] paniktrade : just happened
[2017-01-21 02:35:36] MikeHunt : aethlios: i dont think they see how thick it is
[2017-01-21 02:35:40] 24hourz : I have no idea
[2017-01-21 02:35:43] 24hourz : that was insane
[2017-01-21 02:35:44] wurstgelee : lol what?
[2017-01-21 02:35:56] 24hourz : the order book like time traveled
[2017-01-21 02:35:57] wurstgelee : how did i just get liquidated @ 892?
[2017-01-21 02:36:00] wurstgelee : oO
[2017-01-21 02:36:09] 24hourz : there was a huge jump
[2017-01-21 02:36:11] 24hourz : something happened
[2017-01-21 02:36:14] sleger : wurstgelee: you're just back and already gone ?
[2017-01-21 02:36:22] wurstgelee : sleger: i was never gone
[2017-01-21 02:36:26] trat : FUCK OKCOIN
[2017-01-21 02:36:28] wurstgelee : also only a small gamble
[2017-01-21 02:36:29] knikky : 892??
[2017-01-21 02:36:29] wurstgelee : still
[2017-01-21 02:36:30] trat : lol
[2017-01-21 02:36:32] trat : that dump
[2017-01-21 02:36:33] trat : epic
[2017-01-21 02:36:56] wurstgelee : we never went below 900 here
[2017-01-21 02:37:03] wurstgelee : 892 seems bullshit
[2017-01-21 02:37:30] paniktrade : yea
[2017-01-21 02:37:33] paniktrade : 892 fallacy
[2017-01-21 02:37:36] paniktrade : it was mark price
[2017-01-21 02:37:45] paniktrade : not book price
[2017-01-21 02:37:52] paniktrade : my pos went into negative for like 2 seconds
[2017-01-21 02:37:55] paniktrade : and i was like the fuq
[2017-01-21 02:38:01] wurstgelee : btc didnt move. how can mark price jump $10 in a sec?
[2017-01-21 02:38:12] yungyang : PONZI
[2017-01-21 02:38:15] yungyang : SCAM
[2017-01-21 02:38:19] sleger : wurstgelee: okc usd
[2017-01-21 02:38:19] paniktrade : bitmex ponzi :D
[2017-01-21 02:38:20] yungyang : SELL ALL BTC
[2017-01-21 02:38:23] 24hourz : id also like to know why the mark price jumped
[2017-01-21 02:38:29] MikeHunt : if u get greedy u get burnt
[2017-01-21 02:38:32] wurstgelee : sleger: did it dump $20 in a sec?
[2017-01-21 02:38:37] trat : NEEED BITFINEX BACK
[2017-01-21 02:38:42] paniktrade : i had a fucking mini heart attack there
[2017-01-21 02:38:43] paniktrade : srsly
[2017-01-21 02:38:52] MikeHunt : oh this is just the beginning imo
[2017-01-21 02:38:59] 24hourz : wurstgelee: You saw it too right ?
[2017-01-21 02:39:07] guacamole : mark price is based on bitstamp and okc international i think, don't know if either of those use leverage (so if liquidation jumps happen)
[2017-01-21 02:39:09] wurstgelee : 24hourz: not only saw it, it liquidated me oO
[2017-01-21 02:39:35] sleger : wurstgelee: 865 on 0kc usd
[2017-01-21 02:39:36] l3f : 24hourz: I saw it, okc dumped
[2017-01-21 02:39:37] trat : only 100 coins in that 1 minute candle
[2017-01-21 02:39:51] wurstgelee : sleger: lol. k.
[2017-01-21 02:40:00] sleger : well another good choice of using 0kc instead of bitfinex like I have been saying
[2017-01-21 02:40:04] 24hourz : l3f: how would that dump bring mark pirice so low instantly then jumps back up
[2017-01-21 02:40:17] trat : okcion.com has raped me to many times
[2017-01-21 02:40:20] l3f : 24hourz: because it was only for a split second then the bids came back on?
[2017-01-21 02:40:21] sleger : 24hourz: define "dump"
[2017-01-21 02:40:25] wurstgelee : sleger: yes. i also like how we use only 2 low liquidaity exchanges for the index. great idea
[2017-01-21 02:40:39] datboiyuan : dude wtf
[2017-01-21 02:41:01] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: it makes speculation easier as bitmex is behind the curve
[2017-01-21 02:41:03] guacamole : wurstgelee: yeah it kinda blows, hasn't really been accurate to usd exchanges
[2017-01-21 02:41:33] 24hourz : sleger: THe order book like jumped Everything went like $10 lower and mark price was $10 lower. It looked more like a glitch. maybe watching too many xfiles reruns lol
[2017-01-21 02:41:53] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: $10 moves in a split second and back up in the same split second are good for nothing
[2017-01-21 02:41:56] ryvirath : wow, volatility really crushed without margin in china it seems; oh well. Get ready for the slooow climb to ATH
[2017-01-21 02:41:58] sleger : 24hourz: "sleger: wurstgelee: 865 on 0kc usd"
[2017-01-21 02:42:08] wurstgelee : this shouldnt happen iwhile the market is "stable"
[2017-01-21 02:42:08] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: dont place ur liq target so close then :)
[2017-01-21 02:42:13] BitMEX_Wally : The index dropped to 891.50 so the mark price dropped to 891.60
[2017-01-21 02:42:20] guacamole : ryvirath: they removed margin trading on the big chinese exchanges?
[2017-01-21 02:42:35] MikeHunt : guacamole: only on CN facing versions apparently
[2017-01-21 02:42:45] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: the index dropped because of a few btc dump on okc usd
[2017-01-21 02:42:46] MikeHunt : guacamole: international versions still have it iirc
[2017-01-21 02:42:47] ryvirath : wally, you guys should add bitfinex back. It's clear they aren't going anywhere unfortunately
[2017-01-21 02:42:49] wurstgelee : that is the problem ;)
[2017-01-21 02:43:05] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: its time to put bitfinex back in
[2017-01-21 02:43:07] paniktrade : BitMEX_Wally: low liquidity exchange being used as the index :(
[2017-01-21 02:43:10] wurstgelee : i dont loike them either
[2017-01-21 02:43:12] wurstgelee : but its time
[2017-01-21 02:43:16] wurstgelee : *like
[2017-01-21 02:43:23] BitMEX_Wally : We are reviewing which exchanges to add to the index and will make an announcement after Chinese New Year
[2017-01-21 02:44:04] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: u agree that this $10 index jump was completely random and shouldnt happen trho, right? ;)
[2017-01-21 02:44:15] sleger : why always wait for an incident to do something that many users (me) have been saying for a while ?
[2017-01-21 02:44:32] paniktrade : atleast my bids got filled XD
[2017-01-21 02:45:15] MikeHunt : sleger: they profit from it?
[2017-01-21 02:45:18] wurstgelee : sleger: i lost .016 in that trade btw. i will survive ;)(
[2017-01-21 02:45:24] sleger : MikeHunt: not even
[2017-01-21 02:45:28] wurstgelee : had already closed most
[2017-01-21 02:45:40] sleger : MikeHunt: how do you manage to always be wrong ?
[2017-01-21 02:45:49] yungyang : ^^
[2017-01-21 02:45:54] MikeHunt : sleger: it was question
[2017-01-21 02:46:05] sleger : not a smart one
[2017-01-21 02:46:16] MikeHunt : sleger: doesnt necessarily mean im wrong thou
[2017-01-21 02:46:21] wurstgelee : u are
[2017-01-21 02:46:25] sleger : you are
[2017-01-21 02:46:34] BitMEX_Wally : *though
[2017-01-21 02:47:09] yungyang : maybe he was referring to sleger as "thou"
[2017-01-21 02:47:20] yungyang : missed a comma iwbh
[2017-01-21 02:47:50] paniktrade : tho*
[2017-01-21 02:48:04] sleger : MikeHunt: you competing for some contest ?
[2017-01-21 02:48:24] datboiyuan : shiesty
[2017-01-21 02:48:44] paniktrade : why do people have different colors in the box
[2017-01-21 02:48:51] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: is not adding finex back happening for idealistic reasons?
[2017-01-21 02:49:01] paniktrade : i see @datboiyuan got the same color as me
[2017-01-21 02:49:06] MikeHunt : paniktrade: same reason earth has different races?
[2017-01-21 02:49:11] wurstgelee : because i cant see any other reason. they wont go away anytime soon, i guess everyone agreess with that
[2017-01-21 02:49:24] paniktrade : MikeHunt: there is one race and tahts the h00men race
[2017-01-21 02:49:33] wurstgelee : *-s
[2017-01-21 02:49:37] sleger : wurstgelee: because the main MM doesnt want to hedge there
[2017-01-21 02:49:38] MikeHunt : paniktrade: colors of skin then
[2017-01-21 02:49:38] paniktrade : homo sapienz
[2017-01-21 02:49:47] paniktrade : MikeHunt: thats racist
[2017-01-21 02:49:53] wurstgelee : sleger: he could have said that himself :p
[2017-01-21 02:50:07] datboiyuan : purple is dope
[2017-01-21 02:50:09] sleger : also arthur said bitfinex was dead back in august
[2017-01-21 02:50:14] MikeHunt : paniktrade: blame bitmex then, i dont decide colors
[2017-01-21 02:50:25] laisee : so its a zombie now
[2017-01-21 02:50:46] paniktrade : MikeHunt: no man u racest its ur fault
[2017-01-21 02:50:46] yungyang : makes you wonder that American dudes incorporated in hong knog nahm sayin
[2017-01-21 02:51:08] sleger : its incorporated in Seychelles dummy
[2017-01-21 02:51:12] laisee : because bitcoin dont havr borders?
[2017-01-21 02:51:26] yungyang : yeah whatever that is
[2017-01-21 02:51:32] sleger : an island ?
[2017-01-21 02:51:35] BitMEX_Wally : 'thou' would be second person singular as a subject, if he was referring to sleger it should be as an object 'thee'
[2017-01-21 02:51:35] datboiyuan : shiesty
[2017-01-21 02:51:49] paniktrade : yungyang: its an exotic island with loads of dank babes and rich mofos
[2017-01-21 02:51:57] paniktrade : surrounded by pirates
[2017-01-21 02:52:01] paniktrade : of the somali kind
[2017-01-21 02:52:09] laisee : "my eternal liege" covers all situations
[2017-01-21 02:52:39] paniktrade : BitMEX_Wally: someone paid attention during shakespeare class
[2017-01-21 02:52:54] paniktrade : thou art to be or to be
[2017-01-21 02:53:03] MikeHunt : paniktrade: y meh wascist?
[2017-01-21 02:53:10] BitMEX_Wally : *not to be
[2017-01-21 02:53:10] yungyang : he's just diverting all the liq questions ya feel
[2017-01-21 02:53:16] paniktrade : MikeHunt: m8 /trooll
[2017-01-21 02:53:17] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: no finex back into index. reason? (short version) :P
[2017-01-21 02:53:24] yungyang : tis not nobler than suffering the slings of fixing his exchange
[2017-01-21 02:53:24] MikeHunt : paniktrade: trolol
[2017-01-21 02:53:46] paniktrade : ok brb goin for a piss dont liquidate me pls mark price
[2017-01-21 02:53:51] laisee : out, out brief 1 second candle ...
[2017-01-21 02:53:52] BitMEX_Wally : We will review all exchanges including Bitfinex and make a decision soon
[2017-01-21 02:53:52] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: cuz bitmex devs are sadists and like to see you all get rekt? lol
[2017-01-21 02:53:52] paniktrade : pls mark dont
[2017-01-21 02:54:18] paniktrade : MikeHunt: they probably are, i would be :D
[2017-01-21 02:54:29] paniktrade : they prolly run the REKT bot :D
[2017-01-21 02:54:35] paniktrade : <3
[2017-01-21 02:54:38] yungyang : of course they do
[2017-01-21 02:54:42] yungyang : clown
[2017-01-21 02:54:49] BitMEX_Wally : micmix runs the REKT bot
[2017-01-21 02:54:57] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: i am just pissed about the randomness of that move. it shouldnt happen. pisses me off that it does because this type of thing really could get expensive one day
[2017-01-21 02:55:12] yungyang : it was the chanks tho...
[2017-01-21 02:55:20] paniktrade : BitMEX_Wally: best bot ever
[2017-01-21 02:55:20] datboiyuan : wurstgelee: word fam
[2017-01-21 02:55:22] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i always make sure my liq is well out of the way, do that in future
[2017-01-21 02:55:24] paniktrade : to rekt or no to rekt
[2017-01-21 02:55:27] paniktrade : that is the question
[2017-01-21 02:55:30] wurstgelee : *shouldnt happen on a few btc dump. really a few
[2017-01-21 02:55:32] paniktrade : ok brb piss mark be nice
[2017-01-21 02:55:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 904.13
[2017-01-21 02:55:59] javierstone : dun dun dun
[2017-01-21 02:56:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 904.50
[2017-01-21 02:58:37] datboiyuan : My liq was way out of the way.
[2017-01-21 02:59:39] trat : bitmex_same: trigering price column still not updating until refresh
[2017-01-21 03:01:15] alejandromasari : xbth17 breakout
[2017-01-21 03:02:59] sleger : alejandromasari: your bids at 600 dont feel like they are missing the train ?
[2017-01-21 03:03:29] micmix : I bet he moved them to $700 now
[2017-01-21 03:03:47] wurstgelee : quick dip to 6200 please, thanks
[2017-01-21 03:08:00] thedoc : Btc where you going
[2017-01-21 03:08:11] thedoc : 6250 better hold
[2017-01-21 03:17:32] Rado : 500k bid on H17
[2017-01-21 03:17:47] Rado : sleger?
[2017-01-21 03:18:01] Rado : micmix: how is it goin man
[2017-01-21 03:19:04] micmix : Rado: waiting for news from China
[2017-01-21 03:19:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1300 @ 0.001558
[2017-01-21 03:20:13] Rado : micmix: what kind of news are you thinking?
[2017-01-21 03:20:51] Rado : clarifying the government position on exchange rules
[2017-01-21 03:20:59] yungyang : on a Saturday?
[2017-01-21 03:21:19] micmix : Rado: worst case scenario - exchange closure, best case - exchanges pay some fines/bribes and continue to offer 0% fee
[2017-01-21 03:21:44] micmix : leverage seems to be gone for good
[2017-01-21 03:21:50] Rado : yes
[2017-01-21 03:22:10] aethlios : liquidity is gone everywhere.
[2017-01-21 03:22:17] Rado : the 0 fee is not a problem from government percpective
[2017-01-21 03:22:31] Rado : but the exchanges will not be able to make money now without margin trading
[2017-01-21 03:22:42] wurstgelee : i'd like see btcchina go through with it and introduce fees tho
[2017-01-21 03:22:44] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-01-21 03:22:55] Rado : that will be good
[2017-01-21 03:23:00] wurstgelee : yep
[2017-01-21 03:23:06] wurstgelee : makes sense for them
[2017-01-21 03:23:14] wurstgelee : with margin gone, they have to make money the "regular2 way
[2017-01-21 03:23:21] wurstgelee : =fees
[2017-01-21 03:23:44] Rado : did all exchanges stop the volume bots now?
[2017-01-21 03:24:14] paniktrade : Rado: exchanges run their own MM bots, they can also ask for deposit and withdrawal fees
[2017-01-21 03:24:14] wurstgelee : laying low ofc
[2017-01-21 03:24:29] wurstgelee : paniktrade: trading fees make more sense
[2017-01-21 03:24:37] wurstgelee : than deposit or withdrawal fees
[2017-01-21 03:24:37] micmix : yungyang: no, obviously no news today, before New Year or immediately after
[2017-01-21 03:24:44] paniktrade : wurstgelee: no they dont if you run a MM bot
[2017-01-21 03:24:48] Rado : paniktrade: that's not enough to keep the business going
[2017-01-21 03:24:57] paniktrade : oh yes it is
[2017-01-21 03:25:05] Rado : no it's not
[2017-01-21 03:25:09] paniktrade : yes it is
[2017-01-21 03:25:22] Rado : you have no idea how money are made on exchanges
[2017-01-21 03:25:29] paniktrade : no you dont
[2017-01-21 03:25:33] wurstgelee : paniktrade: fees dont piss off people. deposit and withdrawal fees do
[2017-01-21 03:25:49] Rado : they were making 36% annualized from margin
[2017-01-21 03:26:02] paniktrade : they still offer margin on futures
[2017-01-21 03:26:06] paniktrade : so traders will just go there
[2017-01-21 03:26:10] paniktrade : and get rekt there
[2017-01-21 03:26:22] paniktrade : whilst they drive price with their bots on spot
[2017-01-21 03:26:58] wurstgelee : paniktrade: do u think bitmex does that?
[2017-01-21 03:27:15] paniktrade : and also okc runs their own MM that they dont report profits on
[2017-01-21 03:27:16] wurstgelee : i mean..y wouldnt they?
[2017-01-21 03:27:20] Rado : paniktrade: don't you see the bots are off
[2017-01-21 03:27:22] wurstgelee : seems to be great oO
[2017-01-21 03:27:24] paniktrade : nah bitmex depends on other bots
[2017-01-21 03:27:28] Rado : volume was 5 mill now it's 200k
[2017-01-21 03:27:49] wurstgelee : Rado: i cant see how u can not see that tbh :p
[2017-01-21 03:28:16] Rado : wurstgelee: see what?
[2017-01-21 03:28:19] paniktrade : if they get fees they will have tiers
[2017-01-21 03:28:25] paniktrade : where max tier has 0% fees anyway
[2017-01-21 03:28:31] wurstgelee : Rado: that the bots are turned off? ;)
[2017-01-21 03:28:33] paniktrade : and plebs have to pay
[2017-01-21 03:28:44] paniktrade : and bots are never off
[2017-01-21 03:28:50] paniktrade : thats the whole point of a bot
[2017-01-21 03:28:50] Rado : wurstgelee: obviously they are off if the volume went down by 90%
[2017-01-21 03:28:54] paniktrade : running 24/7
[2017-01-21 03:29:19] wurstgelee : Rado: yes ofc, i am agreeing with u. u misunderstood my intentions ;)
[2017-01-21 03:29:27] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-21 03:29:55] Rado : paniktrade has no clue
[2017-01-21 03:29:58] Rado : lol
[2017-01-21 03:30:06] micmix : Rado: my main problem with no leverage is greatly increased counterparty risk
[2017-01-21 03:30:32] paniktrade : Rado: cool story bro
[2017-01-21 03:30:45] micmix : I was happily paying 0.1% per day to keep 3 times less trading capital on Chinese exchanges
[2017-01-21 03:30:49] paniktrade : "the bots are off" lmao
[2017-01-21 03:32:05] paniktrade : micmix: you were runnin some MM bots no?
[2017-01-21 03:32:07] wurstgelee : fomoooooooooo
[2017-01-21 03:32:09] wurstgelee : :p
[2017-01-21 03:32:13] paniktrade : how would fees affect u?
[2017-01-21 03:32:27] paniktrade : im genuinely curious
[2017-01-21 03:32:29] wurstgelee : paniktrade: bigger spread
[2017-01-21 03:32:39] wurstgelee : thats all ;)
[2017-01-21 03:34:05] micmix : paniktrade: trading fees are main profit killer. every MM who pays fees has to increase the spread to compensate. if there is a house MM that doesn't have to pay fees it's hard to compete
[2017-01-21 03:35:04] paniktrade : micmix: heard about okc cutting off competing MM bots, you think they have a house MM?
[2017-01-21 03:35:10] sleger : alejandromasari: wave your hand and say "bye bye"
[2017-01-21 03:35:41] paniktrade : micmix: also would potentially get less liquidity no?
[2017-01-21 03:35:50] Rado : over 915 we go to 940-950
[2017-01-21 03:36:02] narnarfromnarnia : Rado: really?
[2017-01-21 03:36:03] narnarfromnarnia : 4hr?
[2017-01-21 03:36:05] narnarfromnarnia : crossing
[2017-01-21 03:36:10] narnarfromnarnia : i think this was stop loss on 4hr traders
[2017-01-21 03:36:27] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/aGE9rqoj/
[2017-01-21 03:36:49] paniktrade : stop losses at 6350
[2017-01-21 03:36:54] paniktrade : still got abit left
[2017-01-21 03:37:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 909.79
[2017-01-21 03:37:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 910.64
[2017-01-21 03:37:57] wurstgelee : paniktrade: not much
[2017-01-21 03:38:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3 @ 912.10 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-21 03:38:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 90 @ 928.72
[2017-01-21 03:38:02] wurstgelee : 6350 ;)
[2017-01-21 03:38:13] micmix : paniktrade: less liquidity as a consequence of lower profits and increased risks
[2017-01-21 03:38:31] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2017-01-21 03:38:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2492 @ 912.95
[2017-01-21 03:40:20] Rado : shorted ETC
[2017-01-21 03:40:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 200 @ 916.43
[2017-01-21 03:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 919.34
[2017-01-21 03:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10001 @ 917.64
[2017-01-21 03:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 918.90
[2017-01-21 03:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 919.20