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[2017-01-20 16:41:47] Rado : how about just normal movement of the market for once
[2017-01-20 16:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 2000 @ 0.001516
[2017-01-20 16:42:07] Formiga : Who the fuck longs ETC on the top!!!
[2017-01-20 16:42:11] enki0182 : sorry guys - but btc will "trudge"....from here to 1088.
[2017-01-20 16:42:24] Rado : sorry?
[2017-01-20 16:42:30] enki0182 : its slow compared to what your used to
[2017-01-20 16:43:53] enki0182 : long - but wait
[2017-01-20 16:43:55] Rado : enki0182: you might be wrong too
[2017-01-20 16:44:06] enki0182 : maybe until as far as march
[2017-01-20 16:44:27] Rado : there is always a consolidation phase
[2017-01-20 16:45:58] enki0182 : you are right - but not everyone sits for 24/7 waiting for a whale to dump or the market to move upwards.
[2017-01-20 16:46:02] MikeHunt : im cashed out until this settles
[2017-01-20 16:46:14] enki0182 : in the end march = 1088
[2017-01-20 16:46:18] MikeHunt : dont wanna wake up to -10% again
[2017-01-20 16:46:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 2 @ 0.001502
[2017-01-20 16:46:41] enki0182 : best of luck and may you feed me coins later
[2017-01-20 16:48:09] MikeHunt : also the higher this goes the more like pboc will shit all over it again
[2017-01-20 16:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 349 @ 0.001492
[2017-01-20 16:51:12] Kinda : you guys dont get it right 500 millions , his invesotrs are going to follow him . This is madness
[2017-01-20 16:55:20] MikeHunt : madness? THIS IS BITCOIN!
[2017-01-20 16:55:59] PARAFFIN : ROCKET SOON GET READY FOR TRUMP
[2017-01-20 16:56:06] Papou : china needs to dump
[2017-01-20 16:56:07] Papou : :D
[2017-01-20 16:57:40] PARAFFIN : iN SOME MINUTES 950 INSTANT
[2017-01-20 16:59:08] Papou : lol
[2017-01-20 16:59:43] PARAFFIN : 100X LONG @Papou
[2017-01-20 17:00:04] MikeHunt : china will dump imo
[2017-01-20 17:00:17] MikeHunt : news = trading fees to come back apparently
[2017-01-20 17:00:23] PARAFFIN : _NEVER_
[2017-01-20 17:00:26] MikeHunt : that means a loss of ~35% volume
[2017-01-20 17:00:35] MikeHunt : putting price somewhere around 4k
[2017-01-20 17:00:44] Papou : mikehunt
[2017-01-20 17:00:47] Papou : my body is ready for it
[2017-01-20 17:00:54] PARAFFIN : MikeHunt: this is shit
[2017-01-20 17:01:06] Papou : why does no one want cheap bitcoins
[2017-01-20 17:01:07] Papou : wth
[2017-01-20 17:01:11] PARAFFIN : Get TrumpCoin
[2017-01-20 17:03:04] Papou : dump the trump
[2017-01-20 17:03:04] Papou : lets gooo
[2017-01-20 17:03:26] PARAFFIN : BUMP SOON
[2017-01-20 17:03:37] MikeHunt : looks like my doom chart might be right after all
[2017-01-20 17:03:38] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/6obXxD5.png
[2017-01-20 17:04:07] PARAFFIN : Crap @MikeHunt
[2017-01-20 17:10:49] enki0182 : MikeHunt: dontm miss out - place a very small levg long at least
[2017-01-20 17:11:49] enki0182 : its gunna take 3 weeks to get to 1088. then go up from there
[2017-01-20 17:12:53] MikeHunt : enki0182: the problem is that all assumes no change in china
[2017-01-20 17:12:55] PARAFFIN : enki0182: I say 5x long
[2017-01-20 17:12:58] MikeHunt : which there has been
[2017-01-20 17:16:45] PARAFFIN : who doesnt go long deserves the loss
[2017-01-20 17:16:49] MikeHunt : also the chart atm looks a lot like the wall st. crash one
[2017-01-20 17:17:13] PARAFFIN : MikeHunt: go short
[2017-01-20 17:18:08] enki0182 : there will be an announcement... it will be "small"... and the whales will dump coz they feel like it and are really greedy... once this happens.... then it will resume to a very natural upward trend - and it is going to be BIG this time.
[2017-01-20 17:18:22] enki0182 : march will see it at 1088 usd.
[2017-01-20 17:18:29] enki0182 : my opinion only.
[2017-01-20 17:19:06] MikeHunt : whales dont give free rides, generally if a dump is due they will keep it going so ppl buy into longs
[2017-01-20 17:19:12] MikeHunt : only so they can crush them later
[2017-01-20 17:20:01] enki0182 : ok... i will not comment again - good luck.
[2017-01-20 17:20:42] MikeHunt : good luck to you to
[2017-01-20 17:20:52] enki0182 : it will be a slow trudge to 1088... but still worth it... all the best
[2017-01-20 17:32:46] knikky : hey guys wondering if you can help out a relative newb here... can someone give a quick explanation of auto deleveraging?
[2017-01-20 17:33:48] MikeHunt : knikky: basically if everyone takes a particular position with leverage and they are right
[2017-01-20 17:34:02] MikeHunt : then ADL kicks in and boots the most profitable out
[2017-01-20 17:34:43] knikky : okay, i more or less understood that, but i don't really get how it makes sense?
[2017-01-20 17:34:48] BitMEX_Wally : knikky: ADL only occurs if the market moves and there are unfilled liquidations
[2017-01-20 17:35:12] knikky : due to overall imbalance?
[2017-01-20 17:35:32] BitMEX_Wally : If you are long and the market goes up, and a short position cannot be liquidated (not enough sellers) then your long position might be closed out at a profit to clear the liquidation
[2017-01-20 17:36:45] knikky : ahh okay. i mean i guess that kinda sucks for the long position who made the right call but it needs to be done one way or another i assume?
[2017-01-20 17:36:58] MikeHunt : knikky: happens to shorts as well
[2017-01-20 17:37:00] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: I lost 2.5btc because of the settlement on ETC and wasnt able to reopen my position in time. We need to be able to roll before settlement.
[2017-01-20 17:37:19] knikky : MikeHunt: yeah i was just going with that example
[2017-01-20 17:38:09] MikeHunt : knikky: for major swings i recommend low/no leverage for your main balance and have a leveraged long seperate to reduce risk of ADL
[2017-01-20 17:38:31] MikeHunt : (or leveraged short)
[2017-01-20 17:39:15] knikky : cool. makes a bit more sense to me thx trollbox buds
[2017-01-20 17:39:29] yungyang : no new friends
[2017-01-20 17:43:17] Nooby : sleger: 2.5 btc waouuuhhh i wish i will have so much btc one day too!! trade winner fingers crossed
[2017-01-20 17:43:44] sleger : a loss is not waouhh
[2017-01-20 17:44:24] Nooby : yeah sorry but 2.5 btc is waouuhhh
[2017-01-20 17:45:24] yungyang : loss of opportunity
[2017-01-20 17:45:30] yungyang : or loss
[2017-01-20 17:45:36] Nooby : i am not sure that etc will pump again, IMHO it is finish
[2017-01-20 17:45:54] yungyang : how long you been in the game fam
[2017-01-20 17:47:16] Nooby : few hours
[2017-01-20 17:47:23] Baseballman : Sounds like the long ADL is designed to stop a short squeeze (and vice-versa)...
[2017-01-20 17:50:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5000 @ 897.15
[2017-01-20 18:16:27] Baseballman : ZZZ
[2017-01-20 18:17:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 4350 @ 6162.5
[2017-01-20 18:17:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 889.88
[2017-01-20 18:21:26] Kinda : looks like btc is dumping
[2017-01-20 18:21:51] Kinda : what the difference between btc yuan and btc?
[2017-01-20 18:26:08] MikeHunt : Kinda: btc = btc/usd ?
[2017-01-20 18:26:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 2500 @ 0.001498
[2017-01-20 18:26:44] Kinda : MikeHunt: yes
[2017-01-20 18:28:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 370 @ 0.001487
[2017-01-20 19:17:10] abbey : so quiet here
[2017-01-20 19:17:59] abbey : everybody on their toes
[2017-01-20 19:18:47] Papou : im waiting for the dump
[2017-01-20 19:18:49] Papou : it will be beautiful
[2017-01-20 19:18:54] Papou : titanic 2.0
[2017-01-20 19:18:59] Papou : my body is ready
[2017-01-20 19:23:03] knikky : im expecting a dump but it looks like it could go either way to me
[2017-01-20 19:23:21] Derreck : Trump has a really good inauguration speech
[2017-01-20 19:28:27] Papou : yup
[2017-01-20 19:28:32] Papou : he will liberate the plebs
[2017-01-20 19:28:38] Papou : no more ramen noodles for dinner
[2017-01-20 19:36:41] BTCDJS : Trump plagiarized his speech from Bainhttps://twitter.com/tyleroakley/status/822508508494995456
[2017-01-20 19:37:12] BTCDJS : even the timing of delivery is the same
[2017-01-20 19:37:30] BTCDJS : You litterally cant make this stuff up
[2017-01-20 19:40:28] BitMEX_Greg : Bane*
[2017-01-20 19:40:38] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: yeah that
[2017-01-20 19:40:56] BitMEX_Greg : pretty funny
[2017-01-20 19:42:34] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: Heres a longer onehttps://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/822519108927361024
[2017-01-20 19:43:51] KyllingLolsson : Rising wedge
[2017-01-20 19:44:13] BTCDJS : Dono WTF the UK and the US are thinking. How are people ok with this shit
[2017-01-20 19:44:37] Papou : greg, are u bear or bull
[2017-01-20 19:45:08] Nooby : etc is dumping ? or pumping... who knows...
[2017-01-20 19:46:17] KyllingLolsson : Or ascending triangle?
[2017-01-20 19:46:21] DicePlayer : does XBTH17 settle every 4 months?
[2017-01-20 19:46:24] Nooby : not too many trades on etc...
[2017-01-20 19:46:28] knikky : our other choice was hillary.
[2017-01-20 19:46:35] knikky : whichis even more fucked
[2017-01-20 19:46:55] sleger : DicePlayer: no XBTH17 settle only once
[2017-01-20 19:47:28] DicePlayer : well once it settles, the next one will run for 4 months?
[2017-01-20 19:47:34] BitMEX_Greg : Papou: Actually my Chinese Zodiac is a pig
[2017-01-20 19:48:06] BitMEX_Greg : DicePlayer: These are three month, or quarterly, contracts
[2017-01-20 19:48:19] Papou : Supergreg, #1
[2017-01-20 19:48:26] DicePlayer : okay, so next one will be XBTM17
[2017-01-20 19:48:58] BitMEX_Greg : For June, yeah
[2017-01-20 19:49:13] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: you were born in december/november
[2017-01-20 19:49:20] BitMEX_Greg : Nope
[2017-01-20 19:49:49] BTCDJS : Im a pig and I was born in december
[2017-01-20 19:50:09] BitMEX_Greg : I'm a few months before you then
[2017-01-20 19:50:14] BTCDJS : oh no wait. I think I may be a rat
[2017-01-20 19:50:19] KyllingLolsson : This is going upwards right???
[2017-01-20 19:50:21] BTCDJS : cant remember
[2017-01-20 19:50:26] DicePlayer : should the price of the perpetual swap be the same as the XBT17 at settlement ?
[2017-01-20 19:50:37] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: which thing?
[2017-01-20 19:51:01] BitMEX_Greg : DicePlayer: No not necessarily. Settlement occurs at the 30min TWAP prior to expiry
[2017-01-20 19:51:04] KyllingLolsson : Ascending triangle on xbth17
[2017-01-20 19:51:17] BitMEX_Greg : DicePlayer: Have a look at the contract specifications: https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTH17
[2017-01-20 19:51:17] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: btc
[2017-01-20 19:52:09] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: dono where youre getting a rising wedge from.
[2017-01-20 19:52:28] BTCDJS : I dont see it.
[2017-01-20 19:52:33] DicePlayer : Just wondering if the last settlement was on dec 31st 2016, why there was such a large price discrepancy between the two, doesn't it create a arbitrage oppourtunity
[2017-01-20 19:52:50] BTCDJS : And besides they arent necessarily true
[2017-01-20 19:53:15] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: from ca 2017 - 01 - 17
[2017-01-20 19:54:05] KyllingLolsson : Rising price, and triangular shape with higher lows
[2017-01-20 19:55:18] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson:http://www.tradingview.com/x/dL4lKhpE
[2017-01-20 19:56:49] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: But it doesnt necessarily mean anything. Dont put too much trust in lines on a chart. Learn more indicators and take a few of them into consideration
[2017-01-20 19:58:04] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: ok,good thing im short now. i use rsi, stochastic, money Flow, ema 50 100 200.
[2017-01-20 19:58:18] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: I find MA30 EMA13 quite useful. Also add EMA200 to your chart
[2017-01-20 19:59:34] BTCDJS : I make MA30 red and EMA13 green. Where they cross is a good indicator to buy or sell
[2017-01-20 20:00:36] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: no 50 ema
[2017-01-20 20:00:45] KyllingLolsson : ?
[2017-01-20 20:02:17] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson:https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/58826cb4/
[2017-01-20 20:02:44] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: I dont. But other people might. Just pick what works for you
[2017-01-20 20:03:22] BTCDJS : Its the way you interpret them
[2017-01-20 20:04:30] BTCDJS : that beige line is my 200EMA On the day chart if price breaks through it confirms bearish move to me on BTC
[2017-01-20 20:04:33] KyllingLolsson : Sigh. Lose attachment to money ?
[2017-01-20 20:05:45] BTCDJS : And if it moves above it is a potential bull move
[2017-01-20 20:07:36] Derreck : double top? 900 breaking
[2017-01-20 20:07:51] MikeHunt : the problem with this bull run is it assumes china stayed the same
[2017-01-20 20:08:04] MikeHunt : they've essentially had their V8 replaced with a lawn mower engine
[2017-01-20 20:08:14] Derreck : MikeHunt: you're shorting?
[2017-01-20 20:08:25] MikeHunt : Derreck: yeh
[2017-01-20 20:08:38] MikeHunt : calculations put Bitcoin at ~35% of previous means value
[2017-01-20 20:08:48] MikeHunt : china is also looking at reintroducing trading fees
[2017-01-20 20:09:14] MikeHunt : it may well run to 950 but the crash will be epic imo
[2017-01-20 20:11:08] Papou : its amazing the slightest price moves everyone expects 1000000
[2017-01-20 20:11:30] Apocalyptic : Papou: are you short ?
[2017-01-20 20:13:06] MikeHunt : MFI on 4hr dont look good either
[2017-01-20 20:13:17] Papou : yea
[2017-01-20 20:13:19] Papou : duh
[2017-01-20 20:14:31] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: look at wall st. crash or japanese 1990 crash
[2017-01-20 20:14:40] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: thats the short of pattern i think we'll follow
[2017-01-20 20:18:57] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: interesting
[2017-01-20 20:22:40] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: the 1990 jap crash in particular has the ascending triangle afterwards which fails to break through in the end
[2017-01-20 20:39:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 80000 @ 0.00000733
[2017-01-20 20:39:25] moo : short the scamcoin! amazing price, confirmed top
[2017-01-20 20:43:57] moo : This scam is crashing right now! 700$!
[2017-01-20 21:00:02] Kinda : MikeHunt: are you trading BTC/ Yuan or BTC USD?
[2017-01-20 21:03:30] Kinda : To me this btc run looks like novem 2015 run after the crash
[2017-01-20 21:04:04] abbey : more like 2013
[2017-01-20 21:10:09] Papou : why do people think they will get pumped to riches
[2017-01-20 21:10:09] Kinda : crash 2013 = hack
[2017-01-20 21:10:10] Papou : i love it
[2017-01-20 21:15:07] abbey : Papou: it's happened before, like a loop
[2017-01-20 21:15:49] abbey : more than once
[2017-01-20 21:16:06] abbey : the trend is up
[2017-01-20 21:16:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 250 @ 0.001555
[2017-01-20 21:18:21] abbey : HODL is the key
[2017-01-20 21:19:20] abbey : it's time
[2017-01-20 21:20:05] MikeHunt : Kinda: BTCUSD
[2017-01-20 21:20:15] MikeHunt : Kinda: crash 2017 = china took away the money pot
[2017-01-20 21:21:25] abbey : MikeHunt: true
[2017-01-20 21:22:59] abbey : it's just a bouncy ride to new highs again.
[2017-01-20 21:24:13] MikeHunt : china so far taken away leveraged trading
[2017-01-20 21:24:22] MikeHunt : all existing loans die in march
[2017-01-20 21:24:31] MikeHunt : trading fees are also gonna be reintroduced
[2017-01-20 21:24:37] MikeHunt : meaning no more fake volume
[2017-01-20 21:24:59] MikeHunt : mean a devaluation of ~35% or more
[2017-01-20 21:25:31] Apocalyptic : "all existing loans die in march" source for that ?
[2017-01-20 21:25:41] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: okc h17
[2017-01-20 21:25:47] MikeHunt : (their equivalent
[2017-01-20 21:25:49] MikeHunt : )
[2017-01-20 21:26:12] Apocalyptic : I @MikeHunt I mean a link to something stating it
[2017-01-20 21:26:50] yungyang : I read something that users may not apply for loans and that okc will not be demanding repayment
[2017-01-20 21:27:11] abbey : everything priced in alreaydy, me thinks.
[2017-01-20 21:28:31] yungyang : nigga you a permabull
[2017-01-20 21:29:02] abbey : let's see, ultimately it's sure up.
[2017-01-20 21:29:09] yungyang : word
[2017-01-20 21:30:36] BTCDJS : Been waiting 3hours for my Indian take way THREE HOURS
[2017-01-20 21:30:59] buylowselllow : i just sighed up
[2017-01-20 21:31:03] buylowselllow : what is this
[2017-01-20 21:31:22] yungyang : indian take way?
[2017-01-20 21:31:25] Kinda : BTCDJS: what did you order?
[2017-01-20 21:31:40] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: go on okc site and look
[2017-01-20 21:32:00] BTCDJS : King prawn rogan josh, garlic rice, naan bread
[2017-01-20 21:32:25] BTCDJS : and some potato and cauliflower
[2017-01-20 21:32:29] abbey : BTCDJS: that's some fast food there
[2017-01-20 21:32:33] Kinda : BTCDJS: don't pay those suckers fk them
[2017-01-20 21:32:52] BTCDJS : Already paid online
[2017-01-20 21:33:32] abbey : shit happens they say ;D
[2017-01-20 21:33:49] buylowselllow : Due to local laws, BitMEX is unable to service your country (US). We cannot accept deposits. If you believe this to be in error, contact us at support@bitmex.com.
[2017-01-20 21:33:54] BTCDJS : I'm hank Marvin man
[2017-01-20 21:34:03] BTCDJS : need food
[2017-01-20 21:34:35] BTCDJS : buylowselllow: no US citizens are allowed to trade here
[2017-01-20 21:35:09] buylowselllow : how are these people speaking English then?
[2017-01-20 21:35:29] BTCDJS : buylowselllow: there is a place called England
[2017-01-20 21:35:54] BTCDJS : they taught everyone including Americans English
[2017-01-20 21:36:45] KyllingLolsson : Lol ?
[2017-01-20 21:38:03] buylowselllow : BTCDJS: if i strap on a VPN you think it would work?
[2017-01-20 21:38:25] BTCDJS : buylowselllow: tor might
[2017-01-20 21:38:31] Apocalyptic : buylowselllow: sure, since you didn't select US as registration right
[2017-01-20 21:38:42] Apocalyptic : you think they're detecting the country based on IP ?
[2017-01-20 21:39:07] Apocalyptic : you supplied them this info upon registration
[2017-01-20 21:40:14] BTCDJS : buylowselllow: just don't ever mention in here if you are from the US. You'll get banned
[2017-01-20 21:40:24] buylowselllow : ok
[2017-01-20 21:40:25] knikky : yeah not allowed
[2017-01-20 21:40:37] buylowselllow : so this is all basicly a game of musical chairs right?
[2017-01-20 21:41:45] BTCDJS : Foods here brb
[2017-01-20 21:44:08] thedoc : Guys. Long the ETC dip.
[2017-01-20 21:44:21] thedoc : Bubble about to begin
[2017-01-20 21:45:43] knikky : whatetc dip
[2017-01-20 22:04:02] carl : Question for you guys. How come the BTCCNY on this exchange is higher than OKC, but is below BTCUSD on exchanges like Finex and Stamp?
[2017-01-20 22:04:08] MikeHunt : buylowselllow: from now on your a British Colonialist
[2017-01-20 22:04:46] Tetsuo : what´s up with that spike to 0.018@XMR@Bitmex
[2017-01-20 22:05:26] sleger : 0.018748 5
[2017-01-20 22:05:32] Tetsuo : thx!
[2017-01-20 22:05:36] sleger : no mm then i guess
[2017-01-20 22:05:42] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: potential PnD incoming?
[2017-01-20 22:05:46] knikky : looks like someone wanted to buy a bunch and just market bought without lokoing at the orderbook?
[2017-01-20 22:05:52] sleger : knikky: no
[2017-01-20 22:05:56] sleger : it was for 5 !!
[2017-01-20 22:06:00] sleger : read what i said
[2017-01-20 22:06:00] Adriana : Tetsuo: someone bought 5 contracts after settlement
[2017-01-20 22:06:08] knikky : oh mb
[2017-01-20 22:06:08] Tetsuo : ah ok
[2017-01-20 22:32:20] qcqc : Can anyone tell me how and where can I find the interest rate for BTC contract ?
[2017-01-20 22:33:05] qcqc : I see 0.0056%. Who is paying who here ?
[2017-01-20 22:33:50] qcqc : .066% sorry
[2017-01-20 22:34:01] BTCDJS : qcqc: longs are paying shorts
[2017-01-20 22:34:52] BTCDJS : All longs will pay 0.066% of however many contracts they are holding
[2017-01-20 22:34:52] qcqc : Thanks
[2017-01-20 22:35:15] BTCDJS : if it was -0.066 shorts would pay longs
[2017-01-20 22:46:41] MikeHunt : does interest get deposited as available btc or into the particular contract as RoE ?
[2017-01-20 22:47:26] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: it goes to realized pnl, so it's available
[2017-01-20 23:05:54] thedoc : man
[2017-01-20 23:05:55] thedoc : btc dumping again
[2017-01-20 23:06:46] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: thnx
[2017-01-20 23:07:21] Papou : thedoc why are you susprised
[2017-01-20 23:07:30] Papou : why do you guys seriously think you will get pumped to riches for free?
[2017-01-20 23:07:33] Papou : are u kidding me
[2017-01-20 23:07:38] Papou : they want cheap bitcoin before they pump it
[2017-01-20 23:07:44] Papou : they not gonna pump 900+ bitcoin. LOL.
[2017-01-20 23:09:03] thedoc : they gotta pump. the bagholders from 900-1250 need to get out in profit or at least breakeven
[2017-01-20 23:09:55] Papou : they are
[2017-01-20 23:09:59] Papou : at 900-910
[2017-01-20 23:10:10] Papou : you see all the sells into the walls?
[2017-01-20 23:10:24] Papou : thats it man, only few trades were from 1000-1200 either way
[2017-01-20 23:10:38] Papou : we need consolidation 600-800
[2017-01-20 23:10:43] Papou : for next wave
[2017-01-20 23:10:49] Papou : whales want cheap coins again
[2017-01-20 23:11:09] Papou : we already got exit pump, it was 830-915
[2017-01-20 23:11:18] Papou : and all those market buys up to 910
[2017-01-20 23:11:35] thedoc : you know price was above $900 for like 14 days....
[2017-01-20 23:11:44] thedoc : that's a lot of buying and selling going on
[2017-01-20 23:11:56] Papou : dude its all margin from china
[2017-01-20 23:12:02] Papou : fake volumes
[2017-01-20 23:12:09] Papou : they exit pumped to ath on us
[2017-01-20 23:12:15] Papou : they knew pboc about to lay smackdown
[2017-01-20 23:12:18] ryvirath : lol, never trust the guy who makes things seem obvious
[2017-01-20 23:12:27] Papou : wait for the official word. btcc still trading 100x leverage too, they doing a big fuck you
[2017-01-20 23:12:52] Papou : pboc will be furious for looking weak
[2017-01-20 23:12:59] Papou : and not able to control the exchanges
[2017-01-20 23:13:06] Papou : these are the chinese we are talking about
[2017-01-20 23:13:09] Papou : craziest motherfuckers
[2017-01-20 23:13:48] ryvirath : there is no consolidation in 600-800
[2017-01-20 23:13:50] Papou : dude u ever take a look at the asian exchanges? they got coins that are wtf, just pump and dump. bitcoin is 90% pump and dump china. the rest of the world doesnt even know wtf it is yet.
[2017-01-20 23:13:54] ryvirath : that equals a bear market and would go much lower
[2017-01-20 23:13:57] ryvirath : look at a chart
[2017-01-20 23:14:02] ryvirath : that breaches long term support
[2017-01-20 23:14:09] Papou : no, we will have plenty of support from the plebs dude
[2017-01-20 23:14:23] Papou : some people in the west will eat ramen noodles for life and sell their babies to buy 500 btc
[2017-01-20 23:14:27] Papou : impossible to go under 500 btc
[2017-01-20 23:14:33] Papou : thats the steal price
[2017-01-20 23:14:47] Papou : this is the exit pump price
[2017-01-20 23:15:09] ryvirath : this isn't poloniex bro
[2017-01-20 23:15:10] Papou : exchanges did nifty exit pump man. we went up 50% in like a month.
[2017-01-20 23:15:22] Papou : use your brain
[2017-01-20 23:15:25] Papou : it was all cny volume
[2017-01-20 23:15:33] Papou : it took bitstamp and bitfinex forever to follow
[2017-01-20 23:15:37] ryvirath : actually they tried to create a bubble and the PBoC do not like bubbles
[2017-01-20 23:15:39] Papou : btc was 1100 in china, 900 on bitstamp
[2017-01-20 23:15:44] Papou : exactly
[2017-01-20 23:15:54] Papou : now this 800-900 pump was led by bitfinex
[2017-01-20 23:15:56] ryvirath : we are still in a bull market
[2017-01-20 23:16:00] Papou : west exit pumping themselves dude
[2017-01-20 23:16:03] Papou : chinese fucked them
[2017-01-20 23:16:12] ryvirath : besides if BTC falls here, you bet your ass it's a rush to the exits in all of crypto
[2017-01-20 23:16:17] Papou : nope
[2017-01-20 23:16:21] Papou : its consolidation man
[2017-01-20 23:16:22] Papou : sigh.
[2017-01-20 23:16:23] ryvirath : I would get everything out if BTC breaches long term support
[2017-01-20 23:16:25] cryptokoala : hi everybody
[2017-01-20 23:16:25] Papou : learn 2 trade bud
[2017-01-20 23:16:34] Papou : alts will fly
[2017-01-20 23:16:41] Papou : 2017 is year of the altcoin man
[2017-01-20 23:16:44] Papou : big money will come in
[2017-01-20 23:17:02] Papou : all that money will poor into good alt projects going mainstream
[2017-01-20 23:17:13] Papou : and will keep bitcoin afloat 550+
[2017-01-20 23:17:31] MikeHunt : Papou: u talking about chinese exchanges international sites or CN only sites?
[2017-01-20 23:17:34] ryvirath : that is probably the most off kilter view of how crypto behaves that I've seen
[2017-01-20 23:17:35] Papou : great projects like ethereum, factom, maidsafe, stratis, iconomi, waves, lisk
[2017-01-20 23:17:42] Papou : monero
[2017-01-20 23:17:49] ryvirath : if BTC tanks, money isn't going to pour into alts. It's going to leave
[2017-01-20 23:17:52] Papou : plenty of coins man will break the billion market cap
[2017-01-20 23:17:57] Papou : no way man
[2017-01-20 23:18:03] Papou : eth dumped to pump into bitcoin right now
[2017-01-20 23:18:08] Papou : and will pump big this year
[2017-01-20 23:18:29] Papou : man, u need to open your eyes to the money and where its going. there is a collective crypto market cap then there is btc/alts
[2017-01-20 23:18:35] longbydefault : papou you seem to know everything
[2017-01-20 23:18:37] Papou : it moves around, it doesnt exit
[2017-01-20 23:18:52] Papou : ride the waves bro
[2017-01-20 23:18:58] longbydefault : you have it all figured out
[2017-01-20 23:19:07] ryvirath : I'm mega long both ETH and BTC right now
[2017-01-20 23:19:13] Papou : long eth
[2017-01-20 23:19:14] Papou : short btc
[2017-01-20 23:19:14] ryvirath : if BTC fails ETH isn't going anywhere
[2017-01-20 23:19:18] Papou : its not both ways dude lol
[2017-01-20 23:19:19] abbey : Papou: u full of crap imo
[2017-01-20 23:19:28] Papou : eth btc dont pair...
[2017-01-20 23:19:32] Papou : they seasaw
[2017-01-20 23:19:40] ryvirath : the correlation is almost perfect
[2017-01-20 23:19:42] ryvirath : check the charts
[2017-01-20 23:19:48] Papou : not anymore
[2017-01-20 23:19:57] longbydefault : papou is right... listen to him...
[2017-01-20 23:20:39] MikeHunt : Papou: u mean they still have leverage on the chinese exchanges for china residents only or jsut international versions?
[2017-01-20 23:20:51] ryvirath : .com has leverage
[2017-01-20 23:21:02] ryvirath : .cn does not
[2017-01-20 23:21:10] Papou : btcc is 100% not following guidance
[2017-01-20 23:21:13] Papou : they completely ignored it
[2017-01-20 23:21:23] Papou : huobi and okcoin took leverage away
[2017-01-20 23:21:33] Papou : btcc said fuck u
[2017-01-20 23:21:36] ryvirath : whuuut
[2017-01-20 23:21:40] ryvirath : btcc is about to add fees
[2017-01-20 23:21:54] Papou : all 3 are about to add fees
[2017-01-20 23:21:59] ryvirath : because they can't collect margin interest
[2017-01-20 23:22:00] Papou : but im expecting big punishment to btcc
[2017-01-20 23:22:06] Papou : pboc will lay a whooping
[2017-01-20 23:22:08] MikeHunt : Papou: iirc the international versions could keep leverage, just chinese citizens werent allowed to use it
[2017-01-20 23:22:12] Papou : or disregarding orders
[2017-01-20 23:22:50] ryvirath : oh wise papou with your full understanding of the PBoCs intentinos
[2017-01-20 23:23:19] longbydefault : papoo is an insider with 50% profit on each trade
[2017-01-20 23:23:33] Papou : guys. please use your logic here
[2017-01-20 23:23:50] Papou : where exactly will billions of dollars come from and pump everybody's long in this "obvious" bull market
[2017-01-20 23:23:54] l3f : Papou: please short 100x
[2017-01-20 23:23:54] Papou : so they can get dumped on again?
[2017-01-20 23:24:05] Papou : i never go over l3f 3-5x leverage
[2017-01-20 23:24:05] l3f : at least 25x
[2017-01-20 23:24:09] Papou : no
[2017-01-20 23:24:10] MikeHunt : Papou: iirc the international versions could keep leverage, just chinese citizens werent allowed to use it
[2017-01-20 23:24:11] l3f : all in short
[2017-01-20 23:24:14] Papou : 10x+ is gambling
[2017-01-20 23:24:16] Papou : not trading
[2017-01-20 23:24:22] Papou : mikehunt yes
[2017-01-20 23:24:22] l3f : what's the point of being confident if you don't go big?
[2017-01-20 23:24:27] ryvirath : so you are 9x short?
[2017-01-20 23:24:35] MikeHunt : Papou: so BTCC is fine then if chinese citizens cant use it?
[2017-01-20 23:24:41] Papou : l3f because these exchanges are manipulated to liquidate all 10x+ at the most
[2017-01-20 23:24:51] Papou : thats not confidence, its stupidity
[2017-01-20 23:25:01] Papou : 10% gain or loss is commonplace.
[2017-01-20 23:25:12] longbydefault : when do you expect this drop to happen...
[2017-01-20 23:25:14] Papou : 25x+ is literally gambling
[2017-01-20 23:25:14] thedoc : l3f finally joind the short side
[2017-01-20 23:25:31] l3f : thedoc: no I'm long
[2017-01-20 23:25:44] Papou : bitmex for me is play money, make easy and safe $200-$300 a day, more with volatility
[2017-01-20 23:25:49] thedoc : no you are short. proof l3f: all in short
[2017-01-20 23:25:50] Papou : altcoin trading is where the real money is dude.
[2017-01-20 23:25:58] thedoc : ^
[2017-01-20 23:25:59] thedoc : ETC
[2017-01-20 23:26:00] Papou : bitmex ADL u hit big...u cant make big money here
[2017-01-20 23:26:11] l3f : Papou: I'm suggesting that you should all in short
[2017-01-20 23:26:15] MikeHunt : Papou: so BTCC is fine then if chinese citizens cant use leverage, only international can?
[2017-01-20 23:26:26] Papou : l3f, we can see a 940-950 exit pump
[2017-01-20 23:26:29] ryvirath : you only get ADLd if you use ridiculous leverage
[2017-01-20 23:26:32] Papou : ill will all in short then 950
[2017-01-20 23:26:33] ryvirath : which I thought you didn't use?
[2017-01-20 23:26:45] l3f : There is no point in being confident and having a small position ~ George Soros
[2017-01-20 23:26:54] Papou : i take big positions in altcoins.
[2017-01-20 23:28:07] l3f : "big"
[2017-01-20 23:28:11] Papou : Jan 20, 2017, 7:00:00 AM RealisedPNL 0.2374 XBT 0 XBt XBCH17 Completed 7.0237 XBT
[2017-01-20 23:28:15] Papou : easy daily money
[2017-01-20 23:28:51] Papou : Jan 20, 2017, 7:00:00 PM RealisedPNL 0.0818 XBT 0 XBt XBCH17 Completed
[2017-01-20 23:29:04] Papou : done for day
[2017-01-20 23:29:12] l3f : "big"
[2017-01-20 23:29:21] Papou : i todl u bitmex is play money
[2017-01-20 23:29:22] ryvirath : wow big shot
[2017-01-20 23:29:28] sleger : you think XBC is an altcoin ? @Papou
[2017-01-20 23:29:30] Papou : never lose
[2017-01-20 23:30:07] abbey : lol
[2017-01-20 23:30:22] ryvirath : isn't there a leaderboard here; if you are so great your all time record would be there, yeah?
[2017-01-20 23:30:30] Papou : no dude like i said, i dont go big leverage here. i stick with 10-30 btc total value but 3-5x leverage at the most
[2017-01-20 23:30:36] Papou : i just started
[2017-01-20 23:30:47] sleger : oh, so the loss will come, soon
[2017-01-20 23:30:47] ryvirath : there's a leaderboard for ROE
[2017-01-20 23:31:02] Papou : only up 2.25 btc total so far past week
[2017-01-20 23:31:15] Papou : i try and get 0.2 0.3 btc a day
[2017-01-20 23:31:16] Papou : thats it
[2017-01-20 23:31:17] Papou : easy swings
[2017-01-20 23:31:18] ryvirath : ha lol; easy play money every day: only used bitmex for a week
[2017-01-20 23:31:19] sleger : ryvirath: that leaderboard is useless, it will only show the return of people who gambled 100x and havent lost yet
[2017-01-20 23:31:24] Papou : 3-4 $ swings dude
[2017-01-20 23:31:26] Papou : its simple
[2017-01-20 23:31:35] sleger : ^ wont last
[2017-01-20 23:31:47] l3f : sleger: I believe in him
[2017-01-20 23:31:50] micmix : taking bets on how long will take for Papou to disappear from here ;-)
[2017-01-20 23:31:52] ryvirath : you sound like every gambler ever right now papou
[2017-01-20 23:31:53] Papou : dude i cant get liquidated
[2017-01-20 23:31:55] Papou : how i lose
[2017-01-20 23:32:01] Papou : ill just average out of positions
[2017-01-20 23:32:03] Papou : if need be
[2017-01-20 23:32:09] Papou : or hedge diff contracts
[2017-01-20 23:32:15] l3f : Damn he's good
[2017-01-20 23:32:18] Papou : when u stick to low leverage thats trading
[2017-01-20 23:32:19] longbydefault : he's unstoppable
[2017-01-20 23:32:20] abbey : micmix: 2 weeks max
[2017-01-20 23:32:24] Papou : high leverage is gambling
[2017-01-20 23:32:33] longbydefault : he's the guy from limitless
[2017-01-20 23:32:36] sleger : low leverage cant lose, right
[2017-01-20 23:32:37] l3f : how can sleger even compete?
[2017-01-20 23:32:42] l3f : which such a pro
[2017-01-20 23:32:47] sleger : and when you average down, your leverage goes down too i guess ....
[2017-01-20 23:32:47] l3f : with*
[2017-01-20 23:32:51] Apocalyptic : longbydefault: lmao
[2017-01-20 23:33:03] MikeHunt : Papou: so BTCC is fine then if chinese citizens cant use leverage, only international can?
[2017-01-20 23:34:00] longbydefault : that's a nice daily target though... 0.2 to 0.3... :)
[2017-01-20 23:34:07] micmix : abbey: 2-3 weeks sounds about right
[2017-01-20 23:34:36] Kinda : any one long on eth?
[2017-01-20 23:34:44] Apocalyptic : Kinda: sleger
[2017-01-20 23:35:11] Papou : i guess mikehunt, i dont know how easy it is to trade there though
[2017-01-20 23:35:16] Papou : they have cny restrictions
[2017-01-20 23:35:17] Kinda : Apocalyptic: sleger? what does that mean?
[2017-01-20 23:35:34] MikeHunt : Papou: that should be enough for PBoC then, but i expect further bad news still
[2017-01-20 23:35:36] Papou : problem is guys, why doesnt want cheap btc
[2017-01-20 23:35:44] Papou : why do you think big wigs dont wanna buy 500-700
[2017-01-20 23:35:49] MikeHunt : Papou: restrictions alone make this bull run temporarily over imo
[2017-01-20 23:35:51] Papou : and wanna pump this and get dumped on?
[2017-01-20 23:36:02] Papou : yes mike, we need consolidation
[2017-01-20 23:36:04] ryvirath : lol what kind of logic is that
[2017-01-20 23:36:07] Papou : people want cheap btc
[2017-01-20 23:36:08] Papou : simple
[2017-01-20 23:36:09] l3f : ryvirath: it's flawless
[2017-01-20 23:36:25] ryvirath : people want 100 dollar btc so that's where it's going to dump to!
[2017-01-20 23:36:31] l3f : everyone wants cheap coins, so they sell cheap so they can buy cheaper
[2017-01-20 23:36:33] l3f : makes total sense
[2017-01-20 23:36:34] ryvirath : because bigwigs
[2017-01-20 23:36:40] l3f : because bigwigs
[2017-01-20 23:36:56] longbydefault : because bigwigs
[2017-01-20 23:37:37] Papou : every pump always 100% retraces
[2017-01-20 23:37:38] Papou : always
[2017-01-20 23:37:45] ryvirath : it just did
[2017-01-20 23:37:47] Papou : its just how it is
[2017-01-20 23:37:55] l3f : shieeeettt
[2017-01-20 23:37:56] longbydefault : papou tell us something you don't know
[2017-01-20 23:38:54] ryvirath : that would be impossible; papou clearly knows everything
[2017-01-20 23:39:08] l3f : ryvirath: that's why he's making so much money
[2017-01-20 23:39:20] l3f : high roller
[2017-01-20 23:39:22] ryvirath : jesus, maybe he sees the future
[2017-01-20 23:39:23] l3f : he moves the markets
[2017-01-20 23:39:27] ryvirath : maybe he is jesus
[2017-01-20 23:39:48] Tetsuo : papou would have shorted bitcoin in october 2013, cuz Silkroad shutdown clearly was the beginning of the end of BTC
[2017-01-20 23:39:49] Apocalyptic : Kinda: it seems that sleger, a trader here, is long ETH
[2017-01-20 23:41:27] Papou : i got involved in crypto only since august 2016
[2017-01-20 23:41:42] sleger : yes but im not long eth here anymore, but on polo, cause its impossible to keep a position on 7days alt futures here
[2017-01-20 23:42:11] Papou : i mean u can even see https://www.investing.com/currencies/btc-usd-technical
[2017-01-20 23:42:17] Papou : we gonna test 850 for sure
[2017-01-20 23:42:24] BTC-Noob : in 3 or 4 days btc will touch 1k again and retrace more than 100%,. mark my words
[2017-01-20 23:42:34] ryvirath : papou has spoken
[2017-01-20 23:42:36] Papou : we have to see the downward support, everyone want cheap btc. but problem is will they drop it 700's or less
[2017-01-20 23:43:15] ryvirath : 850 is a definite possibility