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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-01-20 01:36:15] MikeHunt : iirc they expire after 15 days, we are ~7 days or more in [2017-01-20 01:36:19] MikeHunt : since it was placed [2017-01-20 01:38:27] thedoc : that whale is on quarterly 0kcoin futures and can hold it till march 31 [2017-01-20 01:40:25] narnarfromnarnia : thedoc: those are shorts from the top [2017-01-20 01:46:36] thedoc : lol 0kcoin whale. flashing 1900 btc in buy support above 6100 cny [2017-01-20 01:47:18] rangle : whichever it is, i sense some volatility incoming [2017-01-20 01:50:04] MikeHunt : chinese volume apparently aint 85% [2017-01-20 01:50:11] MikeHunt : more like 50% [2017-01-20 01:50:14] MikeHunt : according to coindesk [2017-01-20 01:50:21] MikeHunt : so a 35% correction from original mean? [2017-01-20 01:51:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1000 @ 6089.6 [2017-01-20 01:51:46] l3f : dumping rofl [2017-01-20 01:51:52] thedoc : no shit [2017-01-20 01:52:00] thedoc : double top [2017-01-20 01:53:51] thedoc : actually fell 104 CNY short of a double top. ran out of bull juice. could get it up any higher [2017-01-20 01:54:38] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: what's the bottom [2017-01-20 01:54:40] thedoc : 6083 CNY is still the low it needs to break [2017-01-20 01:54:47] narnarfromnarnia : only 1 liquidation [2017-01-20 01:54:54] l3f : just hold [2017-01-20 01:55:17] thedoc : 876 quarterly needs to break for new lows on bitmex [2017-01-20 01:55:44] thedoc : just hold so i can close my short out into your margin call at 640 [2017-01-20 01:56:35] MikeHunt : now we have 2nd leg [2017-01-20 01:56:37] MikeHunt : to 950! [2017-01-20 02:01:28] cataquil : The news is gonna make bitcoin shoot up [2017-01-20 02:05:51] tylerd : thedoc: [2017-01-20 02:08:04] MikeHunt : cataquil: news? [2017-01-20 02:08:08] MikeHunt : cataquil: which news is this? [2017-01-20 02:13:20] thedoc : i'm hurr [2017-01-20 02:13:44] thedoc : damn btc going the wrong way [2017-01-20 02:14:57] MikeHunt : coindesk article mentioned it could go 1k [2017-01-20 02:15:07] MikeHunt : if it cant breakout of the ascending triangle in 1hr its possible [2017-01-20 02:17:26] MikeHunt : can* [2017-01-20 02:36:04] herpinator : omg new calculator only just noticed, awesome [2017-01-20 03:06:26] Papou : lol yea 1k....right [2017-01-20 03:06:40] Papou : lets just make all the plebs who went long rich [2017-01-20 03:47:54] knikky : damn 24.6k sell [2017-01-20 03:50:22] MikeHunt : knikky: where? [2017-01-20 03:52:00] knikky : 10:39:56 xbt [2017-01-20 04:04:13] Papou : can we go back to 800-820 already [2017-01-20 04:04:55] Papou : why are people longing when we can all just short it and wrek the plebs. then we reaccumulate cheap while they fill our longs :D [2017-01-20 04:07:02] knikky : cuz the mid 880s support isnt breaking [2017-01-20 04:07:26] irishsia : Yes, everyone listen to Papou. Don't resist the inevitable. [2017-01-20 04:07:50] herpinator : Papou: I listened to you yesterday and ended my long early due to listening to you it would have been very profitable - I don't think I will listen to you again [2017-01-20 04:09:56] irishsia : 830 would be nice [2017-01-20 04:11:29] Papou : it will break. [2017-01-20 04:11:45] amirmass : dooooooooooom [2017-01-20 04:11:48] Papou : prepare your body's [2017-01-20 04:11:59] Papou : china dropping the hammer on btcc for not listening to them and continuing to margin [2017-01-20 04:12:10] amirmass : yup, btc rekt [2017-01-20 04:12:35] Papou : china taxing btc 25% [2017-01-20 04:12:39] irishsia : Oh dear god, hide yo wives, hide yo kids [2017-01-20 04:13:32] knikky : wait wat [2017-01-20 04:13:35] Papou : manbearwhalepig is about to dump [2017-01-20 04:14:02] Papou : yep china taxing BTC 25% [2017-01-20 04:14:03] knikky : reference? [2017-01-20 04:14:05] Papou : so prepare for 25% dump [2017-01-20 04:14:09] Papou : to offset losses [2017-01-20 04:14:21] Papou : sneaky chinese [2017-01-20 04:14:35] amirmass : Papou: 600 [2017-01-20 04:15:03] Papou : nah [2017-01-20 04:15:09] Papou : 740 will hold until ETF denial in march [2017-01-20 04:15:10] Papou : then 550 [2017-01-20 04:15:47] Papou : just look at the 1d chart. [2017-01-20 04:15:59] Papou : do you realistically see going parabolic up or 20% down... [2017-01-20 04:16:04] Papou : be real here. [2017-01-20 04:16:08] Papou : im short from 894. so thanks. [2017-01-20 04:17:11] Papou : yes idiots....keep buying....nomnomnom [2017-01-20 04:17:30] Papou : in 2 hours longs about to be rektarino [2017-01-20 04:20:21] knikky : so aggressive man. [2017-01-20 04:22:08] MikeHunt : Papou: shorting with leverage? [2017-01-20 04:24:06] Papou : yea only 3x [2017-01-20 04:24:06] l3f : Buy the dip [2017-01-20 04:24:17] Papou : 17000 contracts [2017-01-20 04:24:24] knikky : hit this support 3 times [2017-01-20 04:24:34] l3f : Papou: go big or go home [2017-01-20 04:24:37] Papou : liqui is 1400 im fine. [2017-01-20 04:25:03] Papou : i never go over 5x [2017-01-20 04:25:12] Papou : and ill hedge both ways [2017-01-20 04:25:24] Papou : win whichever way it goes and it always rebounds [2017-01-20 04:25:27] datboiyuan : clown [2017-01-20 04:27:32] MikeHunt : Papou: shorting btc generally doesnt turn out well [2017-01-20 04:27:50] Papou : i first shorted 1170, worked out great [2017-01-20 04:27:57] MikeHunt : this might not be 1170 thou [2017-01-20 04:28:00] MikeHunt : (ie: the top) [2017-01-20 04:28:09] Papou : look at the chart mike [2017-01-20 04:28:13] Papou : come on lol [2017-01-20 04:28:23] MikeHunt : Papou: TA doesn't handle manipulation very well [2017-01-20 04:28:32] Papou : why burn money and pump this.... [2017-01-20 04:28:35] Papou : they already did [2017-01-20 04:28:40] Papou : now everyone is longing like idiots [2017-01-20 04:28:43] MikeHunt : like i said, whales dont give free rides [2017-01-20 04:28:45] Papou : they will not pump people to riches [2017-01-20 04:28:47] Papou : exactly [2017-01-20 04:28:51] Papou : its gonna go low [2017-01-20 04:28:54] Papou : and accumulation [2017-01-20 04:29:02] Papou : more money to be made that way [2017-01-20 04:29:04] MikeHunt : meaning this pump is designed to bring back "normality" [2017-01-20 04:29:14] MikeHunt : then crush it at the right time [2017-01-20 04:29:41] Papou : no man [2017-01-20 04:29:45] Papou : its not gonna pump [2017-01-20 04:29:56] Papou : where will the volume come from... [2017-01-20 04:30:17] MikeHunt : 1hr has us in an ascending triangle [2017-01-20 04:30:25] Papou : china is about to have low trade volume also [2017-01-20 04:30:28] Papou : for their new year [2017-01-20 04:30:38] Papou : and btcc hasnt even listened to pboc [2017-01-20 04:30:41] Papou : expect punishment [2017-01-20 04:30:54] Papou : btcc still trading margin [2017-01-20 04:31:09] datboiyuan : papou, you're like [2017-01-20 04:31:10] Papou : majority of the market is short [2017-01-20 04:31:12] datboiyuan : so knowledgeable [2017-01-20 04:31:24] Papou : dude im a bitcoin bull [2017-01-20 04:31:27] Papou : but not right now [2017-01-20 04:31:31] datboiyuan : if majority of market is short [2017-01-20 04:31:37] datboiyuan : mmswill long [2017-01-20 04:31:40] datboiyuan : you know this [2017-01-20 04:31:41] MikeHunt : china doesnt work like west, i expect some bribery in background [2017-01-20 04:31:45] Papou : no they wont lol [2017-01-20 04:31:47] Papou : plebs will long [2017-01-20 04:32:45] Papou : and pboc prints their own money [2017-01-20 04:32:48] Papou : they dont need anything [2017-01-20 04:33:07] datboiyuan : china doesn't want money [2017-01-20 04:33:12] datboiyuan : they want control and centralization [2017-01-20 04:33:46] Papou : btc will dump [2017-01-20 04:33:50] Papou : alts need some time as well [2017-01-20 04:33:57] MikeHunt : it will dump just not yet imo [2017-01-20 04:34:01] Papou : i seriously feel bad for longs [2017-01-20 04:34:03] Papou : im sorry [2017-01-20 04:38:02] MikeHunt : Papou: the anger in your previous posts suggests.... fear [2017-01-20 04:38:12] knikky : ^ [2017-01-20 04:39:46] amirmass : goodbye bitcoin [2017-01-20 04:39:59] Papou : lol [2017-01-20 04:40:05] Papou : im not scared man [2017-01-20 04:40:14] Papou : i dont go crazy leverage [2017-01-20 04:40:45] Papou : my liquidation is 1438 [2017-01-20 04:40:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 47 @ 886.21 [2017-01-20 04:40:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7 @ 886.00 [2017-01-20 04:40:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 43 @ 886.24 [2017-01-20 04:40:58] Papou : and even if we double top ath, ill just fund my account to a 20k liquidation. [2017-01-20 04:41:03] Papou : lol bye longs [2017-01-20 04:41:06] Papou : tards [2017-01-20 04:41:21] amirmass : lol told u 10 minutes ago [2017-01-20 04:41:26] amirmass : closed my short [2017-01-20 04:42:10] l3f : amirmass: wow this 0.5% move ends bitcoin [2017-01-20 04:42:11] l3f : good to know [2017-01-20 04:42:30] MikeHunt : amirmass: if ur scalping then yeh fine go short [2017-01-20 04:42:40] Papou : if finex dumps 890 its goodbye [2017-01-20 04:42:45] MikeHunt : i got burnt doing that some im only doing larger movements for time being [2017-01-20 04:42:48] amirmass : yeah just scalping and making fast money [2017-01-20 04:42:49] MikeHunt : Papou: why? [2017-01-20 04:42:52] amirmass : but not anymore [2017-01-20 04:43:03] Papou : thats the 150 btc wall [2017-01-20 04:43:07] Papou : its gg [2017-01-20 04:43:52] MikeHunt : china leads the market [2017-01-20 04:45:49] Papou : finex lead the pump [2017-01-20 04:45:51] Papou : and the dump [2017-01-20 04:45:59] Papou : they will all follow a big move [2017-01-20 04:46:24] l3f : Papou: of course an exchange with 1% of the volume will lead the market [2017-01-20 04:46:24] l3f : genius [2017-01-20 04:46:28] Papou : these guys are crazy [2017-01-20 04:46:36] Papou : 1h macd gonna go bad [2017-01-20 04:49:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1300 @ 885.41 [2017-01-20 04:49:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12 @ 885.29 [2017-01-20 04:49:31] REKT : HODL HODL HODL! [2017-01-20 04:50:27] Papou : lol [2017-01-20 04:50:43] dodic : hodor [2017-01-20 04:51:04] rangle : do people really have 12 contract positions, idgi [2017-01-20 04:51:19] Papou : yea man [2017-01-20 04:51:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 884.43 [2017-01-20 04:51:28] Papou : most ppl on bitmex use like 5$ with 100x [2017-01-20 04:51:38] Papou : thats gambling, its not trading or investing [2017-01-20 04:51:46] datboiyuan : idgt [2017-01-20 04:52:00] MikeHunt : Papou: said china not bitmex [2017-01-20 04:53:04] l3f : Need more kids to short the bottom [2017-01-20 04:56:49] MikeHunt : also once trump gets in i suspect chinese yuan is in for a kicking [2017-01-20 04:56:56] MikeHunt : which will lead to more btc being bought up [2017-01-20 04:57:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 18 @ 883.58 [2017-01-20 05:00:33] datboiyuan : why is yuan in for kicking bc of trump [2017-01-20 05:00:50] datboiyuan : id wager we'll see a weaker us dollar [2017-01-20 05:01:00] datboiyuan : some outcome really though I suppose [2017-01-20 05:02:27] MikeHunt : datboiyuan: maybe in short term but chinas fall will be much harder than trumps [2017-01-20 05:02:32] MikeHunt : /americas [2017-01-20 05:02:54] MikeHunt : trumps going down the correct path of deregulation/reducing taxes [2017-01-20 05:03:35] rangle : Trump has no plan [2017-01-20 05:03:59] knikky : lol. [2017-01-20 05:04:09] knikky : so much trump hate, nothing to do but laugh at it now. [2017-01-20 05:04:15] MikeHunt : knikky: +1 [2017-01-20 05:04:40] MikeHunt : just look what putin did in russia, thats what trump will do imo [2017-01-20 05:06:07] knikky : not even president and he positively affects the economy [2017-01-20 05:06:39] rangle : orly? [2017-01-20 05:07:12] knikky : well [2017-01-20 05:07:19] knikky : you might not hear about it if you're into that fake news shit [2017-01-20 05:07:42] maxrdlf95 : buy the dip [2017-01-20 05:08:30] MikeHunt : just look at how trump runs his companies as well [2017-01-20 05:08:40] MikeHunt : top quality stuff [2017-01-20 05:09:58] knikky : hurr durr muh bankrupcies [2017-01-20 05:13:30] BitMEX_Wally : bankruptcies are socialised losses, he probably thinks he's clever [2017-01-20 05:14:41] knikky : if you invest in dozens/hundreds of ventures, its an expected result [2017-01-20 05:20:56] MikeHunt : just like those who invested in the US gov are probably about to receive [2017-01-20 05:34:31] rapidgains : time for some 'rapdigains' [2017-01-20 05:44:34] l3f : rapidgains: should have called yourself rapidlosses [2017-01-20 05:47:15] Papou : http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/01/20/bitcoin-price-technical-analysis-01202017-bearish-pressure-getting-stronger/ [2017-01-20 05:47:25] Papou : 740 lets go [2017-01-20 05:47:27] Papou : my body is ready [2017-01-20 05:55:12] Papou : who is still longing [2017-01-20 05:55:13] Papou : lol [2017-01-20 05:57:36] internetexplorer : any news from pboc? [2017-01-20 05:58:34] MikeHunt : internetexplorer: nothing so far [2017-01-20 05:58:59] internetexplorer : i hope there will be [2017-01-20 05:59:08] internetexplorer : because i want some 600 usd btc [2017-01-20 06:01:47] micmix : $500 btc is even better, or $400 or $100. $0 is the best, I will buy all 21m for $0. [2017-01-20 06:05:27] micmix : so, just one more day before USA will be great again! is everyone excited? [2017-01-20 06:11:22] MikeHunt : micmix: apparently many protesters going to show up [2017-01-20 06:11:27] MikeHunt : trump might get popped as well [2017-01-20 06:11:34] MikeHunt : economy is fragile [2017-01-20 06:11:45] MikeHunt : i think trump can do well if given the chance [2017-01-20 06:23:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1385 @ 0.001302 [2017-01-20 06:23:23] Papou : stamp getting dumped [2017-01-20 06:23:26] Papou : slowly [2017-01-20 06:23:29] Papou : 140 btc dump [2017-01-20 06:28:18] Papou : 70 btc so far [2017-01-20 06:30:34] Papou : stamp wall almost gone [2017-01-20 06:30:49] Papou : 100 btc sold into [2017-01-20 06:30:50] Papou : LOL [2017-01-20 06:30:57] Papou : that guy is gonna have a bad day [2017-01-20 06:31:43] Papou : i would close longs right about now [2017-01-20 06:31:44] Papou : cut ur losses [2017-01-20 06:32:41] micmix : MikeHunt: I think Trump will be good for the 1% and for wall street, for everyone else not so much. Anyone who thinks that he cares about blue collar workers in Ohio is naive at best. [2017-01-20 06:34:11] MikeHunt : micmix: deregulation/lower taxes sounds good to me [2017-01-20 06:36:40] micmix : yeah, will not help 90% of people who voted for him. 1% will get richer and the rest poorer, as always [2017-01-20 06:39:29] BTCKing : Well people were nuts to think that a man who is the elite would be their ally in fighting the elite in the first place. [2017-01-20 06:39:47] BTCKing : But hey [2017-01-20 06:40:03] BTCKing : a lot of people don't read and Hilary was a shitty alternative so this is the outcome [2017-01-20 06:40:41] MikeHunt : micmix: deregulation/lower taxes help everyone... [2017-01-20 06:43:12] micmix : MikeHunt: of course, and complete absence of all social services is great when you can't find any work [2017-01-20 06:43:21] BTCKing : MikeHunt Unless that regulation results in '08 style collapse then it hurts everyone and if lower taxes means throwing lots of people off health insurance it sure doesn't help them though. [2017-01-20 06:43:36] javierstone : MikeHunt: yer still a fugging knob [2017-01-20 06:44:01] MikeHunt : micmix: if u cant find work ur either not looking or living in a socialist hell hole [2017-01-20 06:44:07] MikeHunt : or not making the effort [2017-01-20 06:44:12] MikeHunt : javierstone: hey froggy [2017-01-20 06:44:36] javierstone : you ever been to the US? [2017-01-20 06:44:42] MikeHunt : BTCKing: taxation is theft, less taxes = less healthcare paid for via theft [2017-01-20 06:44:46] MikeHunt : javierstone: yes [2017-01-20 06:44:53] MikeHunt : not that it matters thou [2017-01-20 06:45:00] micmix : MikeHunt: tell that to 30% of university graduates in USA or Canada [2017-01-20 06:45:10] javierstone : it 100% matters [2017-01-20 06:45:27] MikeHunt : micmix: the ones doing mickey mouse degrees? [2017-01-20 06:45:31] MikeHunt : javierstone: why? [2017-01-20 06:45:37] javierstone : live thru bush or reagan and tell me that lower taxes help everyone [2017-01-20 06:45:48] javierstone : what you are saying is just 100% categorically wrong [2017-01-20 06:45:58] MikeHunt : javierstone: im not a fan of either of them [2017-01-20 06:46:03] arbitrage101 : micmix: there is really no solution for the west [2017-01-20 06:46:06] javierstone : europeans and uK cannot understand the race relations of america [2017-01-20 06:46:16] arbitrage101 : just the consequences of globalization [2017-01-20 06:46:31] javierstone : ya we're butting up against an inefficient energy source [2017-01-20 06:46:41] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: the solution is deregulation/lower taxes, make the west great again [2017-01-20 06:46:49] javierstone : we can't grow based on oil or coal its inefficiencies are whats stalling world economy [2017-01-20 06:46:50] BTCKing : UK with Brexit had quite the same attitudes if Trump in US though immigrant rhetoric and what not. [2017-01-20 06:47:05] arbitrage101 : MikeHunt: dude, all the production will be move to asia [2017-01-20 06:47:16] MikeHunt : javierstone: deregulation can help make oil a thing of the past [2017-01-20 06:47:40] javierstone : deregulation of what? [2017-01-20 06:47:44] MikeHunt : BTCKing: not every1 who supports brexit is against open borders [2017-01-20 06:47:48] javierstone : yer such a knob [2017-01-20 06:48:13] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: regulation/taxes turned it away in the first place [2017-01-20 06:48:17] BTCKing : MikeHunt my point is the race relations javierstone was referring to. [2017-01-20 06:48:30] MikeHunt : javierstone: deregulation of the economy...froggy [2017-01-20 06:48:47] MikeHunt : BTCKing: why does that matter? [2017-01-20 06:48:55] arbitrage101 : MikeHunt: capitalism exploit cheap labor [2017-01-20 06:48:59] javierstone : BTCKing: true but i'm saying that race is an important factor in understanding why lower taxes don't help everyone [2017-01-20 06:49:11] micmix : MikeHunt: no, wage disparity moved all production to asia [2017-01-20 06:49:17] arbitrage101 : rules and regulation are there to protect workers [2017-01-20 06:49:45] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: they are entitlement programs for snowflakes, exploitation of cheap labor = efficient market [2017-01-20 06:49:58] arbitrage101 : if you propose survive of the fitness type system, then yes, no rules/tax is good [2017-01-20 06:50:10] MikeHunt : micmix: caused by socialism [2017-01-20 06:50:17] javierstone : ya but america is inherently an inequal playing field [2017-01-20 06:50:19] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: then we agree then [2017-01-20 06:50:26] MikeHunt : javierstone: because of socialism [2017-01-20 06:50:42] MikeHunt : government prevents competition [2017-01-20 06:50:47] MikeHunt : meaning job losses [2017-01-20 06:50:49] MikeHunt : etc. [2017-01-20 06:50:49] arbitrage101 : you think you are better off in pure capitalistic system? [2017-01-20 06:50:53] javierstone : no because we enslaved a fuck ton of people and they are now living along side of us but there's centuries of unaddressed prejudice [2017-01-20 06:50:59] BTCKing : MikeHunt no one is talking about socailism here but you. Taxes and regulations are not the same thing as socalism. We're talking about regulated capitalism... [2017-01-20 06:51:02] arbitrage101 : dude, you cant even make good trading call here [2017-01-20 06:51:05] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: free market capitalism, yes [2017-01-20 06:51:08] javierstone : its actually because of intense deregulated capitlism aka the triangle cotton trade [2017-01-20 06:51:14] arbitrage101 : bitcoin is as free as it is [2017-01-20 06:51:23] MikeHunt : javierstone: well let them work and relations will ease [2017-01-20 06:51:26] arbitrage101 : are you benefiting from bitcoin? [2017-01-20 06:51:42] javierstone : MikeHunt: its about social structure and inhereted wealth [2017-01-20 06:51:56] MikeHunt : BTCKing: yes they are, socialism = regulation of distribution/production etc. [2017-01-20 06:52:00] BTCKing : arbitrage101 I am. Been on this ride since before 2013 [2017-01-20 06:52:06] javierstone : its an invisible uneven playing field that takes alot of nuanced understanding and time in america to see [2017-01-20 06:52:21] javierstone : every other country has apologized for their slavery except the US [2017-01-20 06:52:25] MikeHunt : javierstone: there will always be poor people [2017-01-20 06:52:32] MikeHunt : javierstone: they serve as a lesson to the rest [2017-01-20 06:52:45] javierstone : yer such a knob [2017-01-20 06:53:27] MikeHunt : javierstone: lets see what happens wen socialism prevents migrants working when welfare runs out in EU [2017-01-20 06:53:29] javierstone : just stick to the island bro and pray your parents can keep paying for your internet connection [2017-01-20 06:53:49] javierstone : MikeHunt: its automation you knob [2017-01-20 06:53:58] BTCKing : There's no soclaist countries in the EU anymore, only capitalist countries with social programs... [2017-01-20 06:54:10] MikeHunt : javierstone: socialism prevents people from shifting to other sectors of the economy [2017-01-20 06:54:15] javierstone : jobs are being decamated because we're in teh middle of one of the greatest technology leaps ever [2017-01-20 06:54:19] MikeHunt : BTCKing: lookup definition of socialism [2017-01-20 06:54:34] MikeHunt : javierstone: nope, redistribution of labor is being prevented by socialism [2017-01-20 06:54:39] BTCKing : It means "the people control the means of consumption" [2017-01-20 06:55:02] BTCKing : when the means of consumption is private and taxes it's not socalism it's capitalism [2017-01-20 06:55:14] BTCKing : Europe has plenty of corporations [2017-01-20 06:55:39] BTCKing : Even in Sweden majority of the economy is privately owned. [2017-01-20 06:55:49] MikeHunt : BTCKing: let me remind you [2017-01-20 06:56:04] MikeHunt : BTCKing: socialism: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." [2017-01-20 06:56:24] BTCKing : Yeah. That's what I said/meant [2017-01-20 06:56:50] MikeHunt : BTCKing: "or regulated " [2017-01-20 06:56:55] BTCKing : My point is in Europe the people do not own the means of production. The vast majority of the means of production is private sector [2017-01-20 06:57:20] MikeHunt : BTCKing: "owned or regulated " [2017-01-20 06:57:21] MikeHunt : OR [2017-01-20 06:57:23] MikeHunt : OR [2017-01-20 06:57:25] BTCKing : If the people owned the means of producution then that means every business is either a coop or owned by the government [2017-01-20 06:57:33] BTCKing : regulated and owned are two different things. [2017-01-20 06:58:17] MikeHunt : BTCKing: OR means either, so it qualifies as socialism either way [2017-01-20 06:59:25] BTCKing : MikeHunt you're conflating center-left politics with far left politics in your opposition to taxation and common regulations. It's a straw mans fallacy and a half. [2017-01-20 06:59:47] MikeHunt : BTCKing: i dont do the whole left/right thing [2017-01-20 07:00:46] BTCKing : Fair enough. You don't need to be left/right to be against government. But you sure do the whole right economic arguments. [2017-01-20 07:04:14] KyllingLolsson : Vote Stalin he promise food [2017-01-20 07:04:33] KyllingLolsson : And summer camp [2017-01-20 07:05:00] BTCKing : Stalin was a cunt [2017-01-20 07:05:14] joshuaf15 : Trump is a kitten [2017-01-20 07:05:21] BTCKing : Really you replace my swear words with kittens BitMex? [2017-01-20 07:05:25] KyllingLolsson : Im A kitten [2017-01-20 07:05:34] MikeHunt : joshuaf15: why? [2017-01-20 07:06:34] BTCKing : Trump is an authoritarian. He hates free speech, free press, want's the government to violate peoples rights. [2017-01-20 07:07:30] MikeHunt : BTCKing: evidence? [2017-01-20 07:07:34] BTCKing : It always strikes me as odd when a bunch of supposedly libertarian Bitcoiners start supporting Trump despite Trump being in direct opposition to freedom. [2017-01-20 07:07:55] KyllingLolsson : Trump is a fascist imo [2017-01-20 07:08:11] MikeHunt : america will need a strong leader for what's required of it [2017-01-20 07:08:31] MikeHunt : liberalism generally doesnt go easily [2017-01-20 07:09:20] BTCKing : Trump hates the media. He always threatens to sue them wants to make it easier to do so. Have you seen what he says about stop and frisk? He wants that to be a national program violate peoples rights there. He's clearly against religious rights for anyone who's brown. The guy once said women should face punishment for getting an abortion doing what they want with their own body. [2017-01-20 07:09:38] thailand : lmao, trollbox turing into a political forum [2017-01-20 07:10:09] MikeHunt : BTCKing: im no fan of trump i just think hes best man for the job atm [2017-01-20 07:10:12] thailand : yes, we get it. Some of you hate/like Trump and some hate/like Hillary [2017-01-20 07:10:23] thailand : or hate both, but hate one less [2017-01-20 07:10:37] MikeHunt : thailand: killary cunton = bad [2017-01-20 07:10:55] BTCKing : Hate both is the way to go. Two party system in US is a joke. I'm glad to live in a country where I get more than two choices. [2017-01-20 07:11:12] MikeHunt : BTCKing: as long as UK is ok i dont rly care thou [2017-01-20 07:12:01] MikeHunt : maybe if they collapse we can reconquer it [2017-01-20 07:12:04] BTCKing : MikeHunt how can you think he's best for the job and be no fan of him? I can get hating Hilary I do to. But thinking Trump is bad isn't saying Hilary is better. [2017-01-20 07:12:27] MikeHunt : BTCKing: he is the king of debt [2017-01-20 07:12:37] MikeHunt : BTCKing: if anyone can fix american economy, its him [2017-01-20 07:12:41] MikeHunt : and force through changes [2017-01-20 07:13:29] BTCKing : Fix and make profit are two different things. But hey I don't live in the US so as a stock holder I don't much care. [2017-01-20 07:13:45] dodic : In 8 years the 99% of america will be living some kind of dystopian nightmare, no healthcare, no social programs, basically fend for yourself or die. Probably cannibalism or something [2017-01-20 07:14:02] dodic : meanwhile the wealthy will live in domed cities, trumptopia [2017-01-20 07:14:04] MikeHunt : BTCKing: even if stocks get crushed world wide? [2017-01-20 07:14:25] MikeHunt : dodic: but they'll have a job they can pay for those things for.... [2017-01-20 07:14:26] BTCKing : If stocks get crushed you can make a lot of moeny shorting and buying the dips [2017-01-20 07:14:53] dodic : MikeHunt: the job wont pay enough to feed yourself [2017-01-20 07:14:55] BTCKing : There's an upside to every downside on the market [2017-01-20 07:14:58] MikeHunt : BTCKing: good luck with that [2017-01-20 07:15:01] dodic : short america [2017-01-20 07:15:11] MikeHunt : dodic: how do you know they wont? [2017-01-20 07:15:21] KyllingLolsson : Hunger games in America 2025 [2017-01-20 07:16:13] dodic : 1/3 of america is already working poor [2017-01-20 07:16:23] MikeHunt : dodic: cuz of socialism [2017-01-20 07:16:26] dodic : hahahahah [2017-01-20 07:17:36] dodic : nah cuz of the massive redistribution of wealth to the top 1% through the decimation of wages and the increase in investment return. just watch man, paul ryan will "Ayn Rand" this shit up [2017-01-20 07:17:41] BTCKing : America is the furthest country for socalism there is [2017-01-20 07:17:58] MikeHunt : dodic: caused by socialism... [2017-01-20 07:18:16] MikeHunt : BTCKing: according to definition of socialism it is [2017-01-20 07:18:21] MikeHunt : much closer [2017-01-20 07:18:34] BTCKing : How so? [2017-01-20 07:18:54] MikeHunt : BTCKing: production/distribution is regulated by the whole [2017-01-20 07:18:59] dodic : MikeHunt: caused by tax and laws that redistribute wealth to the top 1%. oh and the 14 trillion in wars costs [2017-01-20 07:19:17] MikeHunt : dodic: yeh...socialism [2017-01-20 07:19:27] BTCKing : MikeHunt But in the US production/distribution of wealth is regulated far less than other countries [2017-01-20 07:20:05] dodic : MikeHunt: haha sure man, whatever you say :) [2017-01-20 07:20:26] BTCKing : It's called a trol box for a reason :) [2017-01-20 07:21:17] dodic : anyway if you are going to america in the next 8 years get a kevlar vest and glock, the homeless hungry masses might see you as an appetizer [2017-01-20 07:21:27] MikeHunt : BTCKing: well if ur comparing by country, not the most socialist but still...socialist [2017-01-20 07:21:55] MikeHunt : dodic: i think the 2A crowd will deal with the welfare hordes ok [2017-01-20 07:22:36] KyllingLolsson : It's allmlost like people can be greedy and evil no matter what ideology [2017-01-20 07:23:24] BTCKing : @KyllingLolsson humans always have and always will be cunts [2017-01-20 07:24:12] KyllingLolsson : Unless we all get enlightened [2017-01-20 07:24:22] BTCKing : Mushroom time :) [2017-01-20 07:24:44] KyllingLolsson : Yeah [2017-01-20 07:28:54] narnarfromnarnia : was there some big rekts? [2017-01-20 07:29:06] narnarfromnarnia : glad i stayed out [2017-01-20 07:32:39] KyllingLolsson : How do i disable the .xbt price line at the chart??+ it keeps re-appearing even if i make it invisible [2017-01-20 07:33:28] narnarfromnarnia : dump or keeps going [2017-01-20 07:35:13] KyllingLolsson : keeps going up, at least short sighted [2017-01-20 07:35:29] KyllingLolsson : but unsafe zone to go heavy [2017-01-20 07:41:37] KyllingLolsson : but hey, im not the expert around [2017-01-20 07:42:13] MikeHunt : paploo put 17k short @ 894 [2017-01-20 07:42:29] MikeHunt : 50x [2017-01-20 07:42:44] MikeHunt : his liq is within 10-20$ [2017-01-20 07:47:32] Papou : lol 50x right. [2017-01-20 07:48:46] KyllingLolsson : wish there was a "x200 GAMBLE" button [2017-01-20 07:49:07] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: unlimited leverage ;) [2017-01-20 07:49:48] KyllingLolsson : Unlimited profit [2017-01-20 07:50:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 893.16 [2017-01-20 07:50:33] MikeHunt : Papou: u still holding the short? [2017-01-20 07:51:21] Dtrade16 : Sup guys [2017-01-20 07:51:40] Dtrade16 : Where we headed up or down? :O [2017-01-20 07:51:47] Papou : yes mike [2017-01-20 07:51:58] Papou : if we break out, ill long future or yuan [2017-01-20 07:52:05] Papou : hedge myself [2017-01-20 07:52:17] Papou : cash that out on top, then cashout short when we test support [2017-01-20 07:52:29] Papou : im a trader, not a gambler mike. [2017-01-20 07:53:31] Papou : stick with low leverage, and enter positions on proper support/reistance levels, hedge breakouts [2017-01-20 07:53:43] Papou : make a few hundred a day [2017-01-20 07:53:45] Papou : easy peasy [2017-01-20 07:55:23] MikeHunt : Papou: ive thought about doing something like that, cashout every day [2017-01-20 07:55:26] MikeHunt : then i can get some sleep [2017-01-20 07:55:27] Papou : and when you stick to low leverage, you have plenty of room to average. [2017-01-20 07:55:40] Papou : like if this breaks out, ill just reshort the top [2017-01-20 07:55:45] Papou : as well as long yuan or future [2017-01-20 07:55:52] Papou : im in no fear of liquidations. [2017-01-20 07:56:01] Papou : bitcoin has to go 1400+ or more [2017-01-20 07:56:27] Papou : why ppl go anything even above 10x is risky [2017-01-20 07:56:33] Papou : like the other days 10% bull run [2017-01-20 07:57:14] Papou : 3-5x is plenty. just have a proper bank roll [2017-01-20 07:57:26] Papou : start off 4 btc on the account and play with 10-20000 contracts [2017-01-20 07:57:35] Papou : no sweat [2017-01-20 07:57:46] Papou : bitmex has great liquidity, real easy to make 0.25 btc a day [2017-01-20 07:57:59] MikeHunt : ive sorta banned myself from leverage til i work my way back up [2017-01-20 07:58:03] MikeHunt : since i lost a bit lately [2017-01-20 07:58:09] Papou : well duh u lose [2017-01-20 07:58:14] Papou : this shit is volatile [2017-01-20 07:58:18] Papou : why do leverage.... [2017-01-20 07:58:27] Papou : leverage is meant for forex cuz that shit moves like snails [2017-01-20 07:58:37] Papou : leverage on bitcoin is suicide [2017-01-20 07:58:49] MikeHunt : Papou: thought u said 3x-5x is ok? [2017-01-20 07:58:54] MikeHunt : or just during bull runs? [2017-01-20 07:58:55] Papou : yea thats plenty.... [2017-01-20 07:59:07] MikeHunt : my losses were largely from fomo [2017-01-20 07:59:12] Papou : never fomo [2017-01-20 07:59:15] Papou : u need discipline [2017-01-20 07:59:25] Papou : u miss the pump/dump dont worry [2017-01-20 07:59:32] Papou : there is ALWAYS a next [2017-01-20 07:59:44] Papou : ppl always are chasing that "one trade" like wtf why one trade [2017-01-20 08:00:14] MikeHunt : Papou: yeh i feel so dumb for doing that, been watching training videos, made such rookie mistakes in hindsight [2017-01-20 08:01:45] Papou : just try not to make the same mistakes [2017-01-20 08:02:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 80 @ 6114.6 [2017-01-20 08:02:15] Papou : i can proudly say ive never lost money in crypto. sure i havent made as much money as i couldve but i havent lost [2017-01-20 08:02:31] Papou : just play super conservative. [2017-01-20 08:02:53] Papou : its still great money because everything is parabolic here [2017-01-20 08:03:31] Papou : i dont get why anyone is longing man or supporting 880+ [2017-01-20 08:03:32] Papou : nuts [2017-01-20 08:03:33] KyllingLolsson : wish i had 1 btc just to start with [2017-01-20 08:03:42] KyllingLolsson : nexrt month i can buy 1 [2017-01-20 08:03:51] Papou : kyllinglolsson its not hard to save up. thats what i started with. 1 btc [2017-01-20 08:03:53] thedoc : settlement happened on 0kcoin [2017-01-20 08:03:57] thedoc : let the dump begin [2017-01-20 08:04:44] Papou : if you dont have a big bank roll, dont even do bitmex. [2017-01-20 08:04:49] Papou : find a good altcoin and hit a 10x [2017-01-20 08:04:51] Papou : its super easy [2017-01-20 08:04:57] Papou : 4x is VERY easy [2017-01-20 08:05:06] KyllingLolsson : Well i have a good bankroll [2017-01-20 08:05:14] KyllingLolsson : kind of [2017-01-20 08:05:19] MikeHunt : Papou: thnx for tips btw [2017-01-20 08:05:24] Papou : bitmex for me like i said is daily bullshit money [2017-01-20 08:05:34] Papou : 0.25 btc i close position [2017-01-20 08:05:36] thedoc : wow ETH pumped [2017-01-20 08:05:45] Papou : eth pumping because btc about to dump [2017-01-20 08:05:49] Papou : 2017 is eth big year [2017-01-20 08:05:49] MikeHunt : thedoc: okc settlement always a dump? [2017-01-20 08:06:18] Papou : u will make way better money trading alt coins man [2017-01-20 08:06:29] thedoc : i dunno. look at a chart every friday at 8am UTC and tell me [2017-01-20 08:06:33] Papou : catching a good ico, or just finding a good altcoin that has dumped down and is about to repump [2017-01-20 08:06:40] KyllingLolsson : Papou: how long u been doing this? [2017-01-20 08:06:47] Papou : since august [2017-01-20 08:06:58] Papou : first investment was Stratis, hit 16x [2017-01-20 08:07:09] Papou : next was iconomi, up 4x [2017-01-20 08:07:25] KyllingLolsson : trading other markets befre? [2017-01-20 08:07:35] Papou : normal market but not daily [2017-01-20 08:07:39] Papou : long term buying, mostly oil stocks [2017-01-20 08:07:41] MikeHunt : Papou: you get them on poloniex? [2017-01-20 08:07:42] KyllingLolsson : its easy if one os disciplined [2017-01-20 08:07:46] Papou : yes on polo/bittrex [2017-01-20 08:07:57] MikeHunt : ill have to check them out [2017-01-20 08:08:16] Papou : very hard to lose man if u dont buy in the top of a pump... [2017-01-20 08:08:38] KyllingLolsson : never jump on a rolling train [2017-01-20 08:08:41] Papou : no liqudiations....all of them pump decent eventually, especially if u stick to like the top ones [2017-01-20 08:08:44] rangle : easy to say when you didnt trade in 2015 [2017-01-20 08:08:47] MikeHunt : i jsut saw chart, friday is trash man day it seems [2017-01-20 08:08:50] Papou : dont do bulllshit shitcoins [2017-01-20 08:08:55] Papou : like factom was good buy when it dipped 270k [2017-01-20 08:09:05] Papou : eth was ofcourse in the 800k [2017-01-20 08:09:22] Papou : im telling u guys stratis will at least 3-5x in the next month, look into it [2017-01-20 08:09:31] Papou : iconomi i think has another 4x in it [2017-01-20 08:09:50] Papou : darcrus was a good ico, i didnt invest though, returned a good 400% [2017-01-20 08:09:59] Papou : sucks i missed out, i wanted to though [2017-01-20 08:10:31] Papou : bitcoin is about to test 840 or below [2017-01-20 08:10:42] MikeHunt : stratis looks pumped already [2017-01-20 08:11:15] Papou : not at all [2017-01-20 08:11:24] Papou : its at a 6 million market cap only [2017-01-20 08:11:33] Papou : thats a top 10 crypto in the making [2017-01-20 08:11:40] Papou : ledger hardware wallet just added them [2017-01-20 08:11:49] MikeHunt : ill have to look into it [2017-01-20 08:11:51] Papou : ledger only adds Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, Monero, [2017-01-20 08:11:56] Papou : only the top [2017-01-20 08:12:03] Papou : why would a pumped shitcoin need a hardware wallet.