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[2017-01-19 11:47:52] narnarfromnarnia : rullwull: where do you trade forex?
[2017-01-19 11:48:03] narnarfromnarnia : with btc or just normal trading acct?
[2017-01-19 11:49:09] rullwull : narnarfromnarnia: if you wanna trade forex with crypto there are two options - 1broker and simplefx
[2017-01-19 11:50:46] charlyko : both scam sites
[2017-01-19 11:50:54] birdie numn : whaleclub
[2017-01-19 11:53:39] rullwull : charlyko: i use both for more than year, never had any troubles
[2017-01-19 11:55:44] narnarfromnarnia : 860's on this next 4hr in 5min
[2017-01-19 11:55:49] narnarfromnarnia : let's see
[2017-01-19 12:00:24] cataquil : trump will start ww3, let's see
[2017-01-19 12:01:09] narnarfromnarnia : needs a little nudge down to set it off
[2017-01-19 12:13:51] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: I told you to long
[2017-01-19 12:14:03] moo : 33 cents from being liquidated broke and homless
[2017-01-19 12:14:05] moo : what to do
[2017-01-19 12:14:10] l3f : moo: cry
[2017-01-19 12:14:15] narnarfromnarnia : LOL WE DIDN'T HIT 860 YET
[2017-01-19 12:15:12] moo : nooooo Mark price pls
[2017-01-19 12:15:14] moo : go down
[2017-01-19 12:15:16] moo : 10 cents
[2017-01-19 12:15:39] moo : Yes!
[2017-01-19 12:15:40] moo : Saved
[2017-01-19 12:15:58] moo : phew survived that megatop, now back to 350$
[2017-01-19 12:16:06] bingbongfly : got my new long fills at 879, im supah luck
[2017-01-19 12:16:07] narnarfromnarnia : lmao
[2017-01-19 12:16:21] narnarfromnarnia : when did we hit 879?
[2017-01-19 12:16:32] moo : WHAT THE F mark price
[2017-01-19 12:16:34] moo : pls stop
[2017-01-19 12:16:35] moo : nooooooo
[2017-01-19 12:16:39] moo : no pls dont liquidate me
[2017-01-19 12:16:42] bingbongfly : narnarfromnarnia: hm maybe an hour ago
[2017-01-19 12:16:48] bingbongfly : narnarfromnarnia: XBTH17
[2017-01-19 12:16:55] moo : nooooooooooooo
[2017-01-19 12:17:04] bingbongfly : narnarfromnarnia: 1 hour and 17 minutes ago
[2017-01-19 12:17:15] moo : no pls
[2017-01-19 12:17:17] moo : 40 cents
[2017-01-19 12:17:27] moo : go down b1tchcoin
[2017-01-19 12:18:45] moo : Noooooo wtf
[2017-01-19 12:18:47] bingbongfly : no go up fucking pussy btc
[2017-01-19 12:18:49] moo : NOOOOOOO
[2017-01-19 12:18:58] moo : 15 cents boys
[2017-01-19 12:19:06] sleger : bye bye idiot
[2017-01-19 12:19:14] moo : 888.3 and i am DONE
[2017-01-19 12:19:22] moo : Hold
[2017-01-19 12:19:25] moo : YES
[2017-01-19 12:19:31] moo : phew we are good
[2017-01-19 12:19:31] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-19 12:19:32] bingbongfly : 888.95
[2017-01-19 12:19:41] narnarfromnarnia : it's correct back to 882 for a short minute i think
[2017-01-19 12:19:45] bingbongfly : whats your liq price moo?
[2017-01-19 12:19:47] narnarfromnarnia : or even lower
[2017-01-19 12:19:56] moo : bingbongfly: 888.3
[2017-01-19 12:20:15] moo : 888.3 i am ia m broke and my future is macdonalds worker
[2017-01-19 12:20:24] sleger : I'm going to buy some on 0kcoin spot to move the index a big higher and get rid of some dust
[2017-01-19 12:20:24] bingbongfly : moo: hm... so I could liq you right now? x)
[2017-01-19 12:20:34] bingbongfly : I'll spare you
[2017-01-19 12:20:40] moo : bingbongfly: you cant its mark price not mrket price bro
[2017-01-19 12:20:47] bingbongfly : moo: I still can. bro
[2017-01-19 12:20:58] moo : bingbongfly: you cant son
[2017-01-19 12:21:00] bingbongfly : moo: at least I'm pretty sure I can
[2017-01-19 12:21:15] moo : my shorts are calculaed
[2017-01-19 12:21:20] moo : in the lab
[2017-01-19 12:21:29] bingbongfly : moo: it's not THAT liquid market, 100 btc can move it easy with this kind of leverage
[2017-01-19 12:21:56] moo : 13 cents from being broke
[2017-01-19 12:21:59] moo : safe now
[2017-01-19 12:22:01] moo : rolling a blunt
[2017-01-19 12:22:05] moo : fuck
[2017-01-19 12:22:07] moo : 2 cents
[2017-01-19 12:22:09] moo : wtf
[2017-01-19 12:22:11] moo : HOLD
[2017-01-19 12:22:20] moo : phew
[2017-01-19 12:22:24] moo : TWO CENTS BOYS
[2017-01-19 12:22:26] moo : literally
[2017-01-19 12:22:29] narnarfromnarnia : 100x
[2017-01-19 12:22:31] narnarfromnarnia : ?
[2017-01-19 12:25:16] moo : phew i think i am safe now
[2017-01-19 12:25:32] moo : 2 cents, close call, but i had it under control
[2017-01-19 12:28:51] sleger : 888.47 ??
[2017-01-19 12:40:11] l3f : sleger: 889 to be sure
[2017-01-19 12:40:12] l3f : salt the earth
[2017-01-19 12:40:17] l3f : just end his misery
[2017-01-19 13:11:56] charlyko : to much resistance in 6100
[2017-01-19 13:21:56] BTCDJS : sleger: regarding the recent news about margin trading suspended on 0kcoin. Is this news bad enough to dump? Or will US hold price where it is?
[2017-01-19 13:22:22] sleger : BTCDJS: sorry but you got put on my hate list for siding with a dumb troll
[2017-01-19 13:22:58] BTCDJS : Doesn't take much huh?
[2017-01-19 13:24:10] Derreck : seems like we're going sideways in anticipation of the final PBOC report. Then moon... or doom
[2017-01-19 13:24:56] BTCDJS : Ok then Shrek. What will be will be.
[2017-01-19 13:25:41] BTCDJS : I know this your YOUR swamp.
[2017-01-19 13:27:30] Derreck : 6100 again. pump side is strong
[2017-01-19 13:31:47] abbey : Monero up or down today, what do you guys think?
[2017-01-19 13:32:50] Derreck : Chinese exchanges are really losing volume. Daily volume is on Sep levels. I guess we're stuck with this price for a while now
[2017-01-19 13:34:50] abbey : Monero hasn't been following btc price lately
[2017-01-19 13:36:19] abbey : bitcoin is going to the moon and beyond
[2017-01-19 13:36:25] Derreck : Speculative bubble is popping. Fundamentals are now in play
[2017-01-19 13:39:03] abbey : Monero short term, any ideas?
[2017-01-19 13:40:53] abbey : i quess nobody gives a crap about alts at the moment :D
[2017-01-19 13:42:36] charlyko : I have never been in monero. also never cheked a chart. in anon coins I am with zcash... will see :/
[2017-01-19 13:45:12] BTCDJS : sleger: just by the by. Siding with someone and agreeing with what they say are two different things. I agree that in the situation we are in by not knowing what each other look like or knowing each other in any other way except from what our minds can make up from what we read in the troll box, that certain imagery may be drawn from past experiences with characters we've known in real life or in film. That you and Nog actually do conjure imagery of shrek and donkey in the way the two of you communicated with each other. The fact is. Nog is the deciding factor that makes that imagery real because he is like a living cartoon man. Take him out of the equation and the whole thing falls apart. Now I'm not sure why you would want to take offence about what I can't help my mind puts together on the information I have to work with.
[2017-01-19 13:45:25] rapidtrades : SPAM
[2017-01-19 13:45:33] rapidtrades : BAN BTCJDS
[2017-01-19 13:46:02] sleger : +1
[2017-01-19 13:46:36] BTCDJS : ??
[2017-01-19 13:48:24] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: she got the wrong tooth
[2017-01-19 13:48:26] rapidtrades : c*nt
[2017-01-19 13:48:32] l3f : I think trump's already priced in tbqh
[2017-01-19 13:49:18] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: really? SUE
[2017-01-19 13:51:42] l3f : now only if China will make bitcoin great again
[2017-01-19 14:00:30] birdie numn : trump cannot be priced in. nobody knows what or how he is going to accomplish (probs not even himself)
[2017-01-19 14:06:57] laisee : trump will be gone in 18 months or less
[2017-01-19 14:08:18] laisee : poor impulse control, like Nog
[2017-01-19 14:08:43] birdie numn : so all hail supreme leader Pence?
[2017-01-19 14:10:32] laisee : seems ok for a mild-looking proto-fascist, why not give pence a chance
[2017-01-19 14:16:27] aethlios : Hello, another 100% retrace?? what's up with the charts??
[2017-01-19 14:16:52] charlyko : now going doooowwwwn
[2017-01-19 14:17:52] birdie numn : pence is boring is all. im ued to u politics be a meme by now
[2017-01-19 14:18:00] birdie numn : us*
[2017-01-19 14:20:04] l3f : aethlios: manipulation and shakeout to remove weak hands
[2017-01-19 14:20:07] l3f : pump incoming
[2017-01-19 14:20:23] l3f : or at least upward movement
[2017-01-19 14:21:14] l3f : we'll need to move up quicklynso we clear the whale's accumulation zone
[2017-01-19 14:21:36] l3f : he ate up a lot around 700-800
[2017-01-19 14:22:54] l3f : Then the fomoers will take it to 1k easy
[2017-01-19 14:23:03] l3f : now we just wait
[2017-01-19 14:23:29] l3f : trump may be used as an excuse to pump
[2017-01-19 14:26:12] Yoshi1975 : so what you're saying is I should short the hell out of it
[2017-01-19 14:27:01] l3f : Yoshi1975: absolutely
[2017-01-19 14:27:20] Yoshi1975 : cool
[2017-01-19 14:27:34] laisee : rob a bank and put the loot into biggest short evr
[2017-01-19 14:28:58] Yoshi1975 : Thats what I'm looking to do cause China is about to ban this shit...
[2017-01-19 14:46:04] zanza : did ok coin.com stop leverage?
[2017-01-19 14:46:11] zanza : not sure what the latest tweet meant
[2017-01-19 14:47:47] bingbongfly : zanza: they didn't stop leverage, margin is open too
[2017-01-19 14:48:03] bingbongfly : zanza: nothing changed at all on ok coin.com
[2017-01-19 14:48:46] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/822030533513199616
[2017-01-19 14:49:05] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: dude.. that's not ok coin.com
[2017-01-19 14:49:10] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: that's ok coin.cn
[2017-01-19 14:49:21] bingbongfly : you can't read can you?
[2017-01-19 14:49:36] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: https://www.okcoin.cn/t-2504637.html
[2017-01-19 14:49:46] anonymous123421 : The link is in the tweet
[2017-01-19 14:49:49] rapidtrades : cn is much bigger volume wize
[2017-01-19 14:50:03] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: dude that's about ok. coin.cn
[2017-01-19 14:50:09] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: he asked about ok. coin.com
[2017-01-19 14:50:22] rapidtrades : u guys are going through the 5 stages of grief
[2017-01-19 14:50:22] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: and I just opened a position there without any trouble
[2017-01-19 14:50:39] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: so learn two read before you trade
[2017-01-19 14:50:51] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: I see, either way, okcoin.cn recently stopped margin trading which is still important in this market
[2017-01-19 14:50:53] rapidtrades : right now ur at number 3, bargaining
[2017-01-19 14:51:12] rapidtrades : "China doesn't really matter"
[2017-01-19 14:51:14] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: Yes very important. However totally irrelevant to what I was answering
[2017-01-19 14:51:22] rapidtrades : "China was holding us back"
[2017-01-19 14:51:29] rapidtrades : "Margin cut if good news"
[2017-01-19 14:51:34] anonymous123421 : totally agree
[2017-01-19 14:51:40] rapidtrades : mass delusion at play
[2017-01-19 14:51:52] bingbongfly : Rapidtrades and his schizo
[2017-01-19 14:52:12] bingbongfly : right now you are experiencing the second step of hopium
[2017-01-19 14:52:46] popppp : difference btw perpetual swap and margin?
[2017-01-19 14:53:34] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: anyway, here is some proof of ok coin and their margin: https://postimg.org/image/5gixsf1wx/
[2017-01-19 14:53:49] bingbongfly : this is regarding ok coin.com however, not ok coin.cn
[2017-01-19 14:54:03] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: I get it, .com still has margin
[2017-01-19 14:54:41] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: didn't seem like you did
[2017-01-19 14:54:51] bingbongfly : but alright, happy to educate ya'll
[2017-01-19 14:55:00] rapidtrades : BITMEX IF U DON'T FIX THIS LAG I'LL ONLY USE THIS SITE TO CHART WITH IRC
[2017-01-19 14:55:03] rapidtrades : this is a joke
[2017-01-19 14:55:18] rapidtrades : it's been many months, do smth
[2017-01-19 14:55:42] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: Dude, chill, I don't really give a shit about ok coin.com anyway, .cn is what has the real volume
[2017-01-19 14:56:27] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: We have some improvements in the Testnet version
[2017-01-19 14:56:45] BitMEX_Sam : The main offender, by far, is the chart; we've been working on a collaboration with Coinigy for new ones.
[2017-01-19 14:56:51] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: Dude, take it easy. You were spreading misinformation to someone who asked nicely and I was just correcting you
[2017-01-19 14:56:52] rapidtrades : ok good..hope it run better
[2017-01-19 14:57:21] rapidtrades : we told u to kill the chart tho and link ppl to trading view
[2017-01-19 14:57:36] BitMEX_Sam : You can close the chart, we're not about to just have no chart on the site.
[2017-01-19 14:57:47] BitMEX_Sam : Very few people other than you complain about it; just close it.
[2017-01-19 14:58:32] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: Actual news isn't misinformation, all I did was link a tweet which had the news about .cn. Maybe you should learn to read.
[2017-01-19 14:59:15] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: you link to a tweet about ok . coinCN responding to a question about ok. coinCOM. Stop your fud mate we know you'r short
[2017-01-19 15:00:41] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: http://imgur.com/bdTjRNV nah
[2017-01-19 15:04:04] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: like i said, ur the second worth in terms of speed/lag, after bitfinex
[2017-01-19 15:04:09] rapidtrades : so it's not about me
[2017-01-19 15:05:22] abbey : rapidtrades: use this chart https://cryptowat.ch/bitmex/xbt-perpetual-futures/1h
[2017-01-19 15:06:50] rapidtrades : tnx but i don't need a chart
[2017-01-19 15:07:04] abbey : ok
[2017-01-19 15:07:24] rapidtrades : we're talking about the resource hogging....a trading interface should be simple and fast
[2017-01-19 15:07:33] abbey : you trade with a gut feeling?
[2017-01-19 15:07:48] arbitrage101 : dont see the button to close the chart
[2017-01-19 15:07:51] abbey : without charts and TA?
[2017-01-19 15:07:53] rapidtrades : i have like 3-4 sites open and this is by far the worst offender, lagging up everything
[2017-01-19 15:07:55] arbitrage101 : abbey: i trade with my balls
[2017-01-19 15:08:25] abbey : i see, good luck!
[2017-01-19 15:08:28] BitMEX_Sam : You can close the chart via the minimize button in the basic view, or by just resizing it to be tiny in the adv view
[2017-01-19 15:08:49] rapidtrades : basiclly whenever i want to do a trade elsewhere, i have to close this tab to minimize the resouce hogging
[2017-01-19 15:08:55] BitMEX_Sam : And I've explained @rapidtrades that the chart is the primary reason; other reasons likely include that we're simply streaming much more data than most sites
[2017-01-19 15:09:06] BitMEX_Sam : But I do have optimizations in Testnet that should make it here today or tomorrow
[2017-01-19 15:09:21] rapidtrades : ok i'll wait for that and see
[2017-01-19 15:10:27] arbitrage101 : minimize the chart
[2017-01-19 15:10:29] arbitrage101 : much better
[2017-01-19 15:10:41] arbitrage101 : trade blindly
[2017-01-19 15:10:42] abbey : but for now, close (minimize) the chart window and use the other one. This site chart is heavy to handle as Sam said.
[2017-01-19 15:12:47] abbey : or trade blind with your balls like you said. @rapidtrades
[2017-01-19 15:13:14] Rado2 : arbitrage101: I have the chart on a separate tab with tradingview
[2017-01-19 15:13:35] arbitrage101 : Rado2: i dont use TA or chart
[2017-01-19 15:13:48] Rado2 : you don't really need to
[2017-01-19 15:13:53] Rado2 : I mean not in real time
[2017-01-19 15:14:00] Rado2 : once you have your trade set
[2017-01-19 15:15:09] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: lol is it even worth trading with such small amounts? don't fees eat you up?
[2017-01-19 15:15:17] Yoshi1975 : rapidtrades: Maybe if you just changed your name to slowtrades then the chart wouldn't bother you so much. See if that works...
[2017-01-19 15:15:44] Rado2 : bingbongfly: I hear a lot about fees and don't get what people mean
[2017-01-19 15:15:54] Rado2 : fees are proportional to your trade size
[2017-01-19 15:15:59] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: Lol the fee is a percentage, sorry my epeen isn't as huge as yours
[2017-01-19 15:16:16] Rado2 : if you make more than 1% on your trade you should not care about the fees
[2017-01-19 15:16:18] arbitrage101 : many traders here use high leverage
[2017-01-19 15:16:54] bingbongfly : Rado2: yeah right i'm stuck in stock mindset with set fees
[2017-01-19 15:17:07] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: guess you'll learn without losing a significant amount
[2017-01-19 15:17:17] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: I know my epeen is yuuuge :D
[2017-01-19 15:17:22] anonymous123421 : YUGE
[2017-01-19 15:19:53] bingbongfly : Rado2: but withdrawal fees arn't proportional, can you even transfer such low amounts of btc?
[2017-01-19 15:20:30] Rado2 : you should transfer at least 0..01
[2017-01-19 15:20:31] Rado2 : yes
[2017-01-19 15:21:19] bingbongfly : so if you deposit 0.01, then withdraw it you'll lose 10% of what you deposit. That's insane
[2017-01-19 15:21:26] bingbongfly : if you use the preset fee
[2017-01-19 15:22:33] bingbongfly : so @anonymous123421 lose like 5-10% of his stack every time he withdraws, seems like a pretty big waste to me
[2017-01-19 15:24:13] Rado2 : bingbongfly: why would you withdraw?
[2017-01-19 15:24:33] Rado2 : if you made 0.1 then maybe
[2017-01-19 15:24:43] anonymous123421 : bingbongfly: What if I told you I don't plan on withdrawing for a while. Are you referring to the network fee of .0004 BTC? There is no withdraw fee besides the network fee
[2017-01-19 15:24:45] Rado2 : but why do you need to withdraw and deposit again and again
[2017-01-19 15:25:06] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: the minimum fee is 0.0008.
[2017-01-19 15:25:23] anonymous123421 : "BitMEX does not charge fees on deposits or withdrawals. When withdrawing Bitcoin, the minimum Bitcoin Network fee is 0.0004 XBT."
[2017-01-19 15:25:29] anonymous123421 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees#Deposits--Withdrawals
[2017-01-19 15:25:53] BitMEX_Sam : anonymous123421: That's our bad, that document is out of date.
[2017-01-19 15:26:04] BitMEX_Sam : We dynamically adjust the withdrawal fee due to network conditions.
[2017-01-19 15:26:10] anonymous123421 : Lol ok
[2017-01-19 15:26:45] anonymous123421 : Either way I have more than .01 BTC on this exchange.
[2017-01-19 15:29:30] bingbongfly : anonymous123421: again with the misinformation ;)
[2017-01-19 15:31:34] anonymous123421 : Bitmex documentation is FAKE NEWS confirmed
[2017-01-19 15:32:27] anonymous123421 : Bitmex is the Illuminati confirmed
[2017-01-19 15:48:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 1000 @ 6139.6
[2017-01-19 16:06:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 6068 @ 6186.5
[2017-01-19 16:06:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 10000 @ 6187.6
[2017-01-19 16:07:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 889.70
[2017-01-19 16:17:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 60000 @ 6153.9 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-19 16:17:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 100 @ 6164.2
[2017-01-19 16:18:00] sleger : moo is rekt already, good riddance
[2017-01-19 16:25:00] internetexplorer : short baby
[2017-01-19 16:35:44] abbey : whos shorting? lol
[2017-01-19 16:47:13] Papou : everyone with a right mind
[2017-01-19 16:48:14] knikky : DROP IT BBY DrOP IT
[2017-01-19 16:48:34] Papou : who is longing is the question
[2017-01-19 16:49:01] thedoc : i dunno what to do
[2017-01-19 16:49:11] thedoc : i almost blew my whole account balance
[2017-01-19 16:49:43] Formiga : Is there any way to set a fixed and only withdrawl access here in bitmex for security?
[2017-01-19 16:49:51] Formiga : address*
[2017-01-19 16:50:08] BitMEX_Sam : Formiga: At this point in time we do not have that feature, no. But I highly recommend using two-factor auth.
[2017-01-19 16:50:23] BitMEX_Sam : If you are especially worried about your account, a Yubikey is a worthwhile investment.
[2017-01-19 16:50:39] scalper : i'd like a contract @ 888.88 XBT (based on the the numbers i'd go long with that one ;) )
[2017-01-19 16:50:52] Formiga : cool thanks, since the withdrawls are done manually would be cool to have a fixed one
[2017-01-19 16:51:43] internetexplorer : yeah who's longing and why
[2017-01-19 16:51:48] internetexplorer : 750 here we come
[2017-01-19 16:56:03] BitMEX_Greg : Anybody heard about ARK coin here?
[2017-01-19 16:58:16] Papou : yes
[2017-01-19 16:58:19] Papou : lisk 2.0
[2017-01-19 16:58:22] trejderjack : pump the bitcoin !!!
[2017-01-19 16:58:24] Papou : risky imo
[2017-01-19 16:58:30] Papou : i wouldnt touch it greg
[2017-01-19 16:58:37] Papou : u should all look into stratis
[2017-01-19 16:58:47] BitMEX_Greg : haha
[2017-01-19 16:58:51] Papou : 6 mil market cap and just added to Ledger nano wallets
[2017-01-19 16:59:03] trejderjack : internetexplorer, i am longing the breakout of 900
[2017-01-19 16:59:04] Papou : why a 6 mil coin on hardware wallet?
[2017-01-19 16:59:12] Formiga : BitMEX_Sam: how do you setup yubikey here? just plug in and uses as if it was google auth?
[2017-01-19 16:59:17] BitMEX_Greg : dismal volumes though, @Papou
[2017-01-19 16:59:28] Papou : right now yea greg and bad liquidity i know
[2017-01-19 16:59:31] BitMEX_Sam : Formiga: You have to disable your google auth, then enable the Yubikey
[2017-01-19 16:59:33] Papou : but it was a 16x coin this year
[2017-01-19 16:59:48] Papou : from 1129 sat to about 16000 sat with good volume
[2017-01-19 17:00:03] Papou : and big things coming there way soon, just do the research
[2017-01-19 17:00:18] Papou : they have a bitcoin core dev :/
[2017-01-19 17:00:25] Formiga : BitMEX_Sam: Cool thanks, do you know if I can use Yubikey on any exchange that allows google 2fa?
[2017-01-19 17:00:40] Papou : its bitcoin written in c#, with sidechains and everything. ntumblebit, the works
[2017-01-19 17:01:07] BitMEX_Sam : Formiga: You can using the Yubico Authenticator app on the NEO, perhaps on the YK4 but I'm not certain
[2017-01-19 17:01:29] BitMEX_Sam : Yubikeys can run a small set of Javacard apps directly on the token so that the secrets are read-only, and then you can password-protect access.
[2017-01-19 17:06:15] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: not sure if its me, but i think i found a small bug
[2017-01-19 17:06:38] wurstgelee : go into leverage edit mode (where u can manually set desired leverage)
[2017-01-19 17:06:45] wurstgelee : then switch instruments
[2017-01-19 17:06:52] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-01-19 17:07:05] wurstgelee : *switch while still in edit mode
[2017-01-19 17:07:28] BitMEX_Sam : It should probably cancel, but I don't see a big issue
[2017-01-19 17:07:38] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: yep. more an annoyance
[2017-01-19 17:07:41] wurstgelee : not an issue
[2017-01-19 17:07:51] BitMEX_Sam : It'll still validate the input, no Bitcoinica bug here :)
[2017-01-19 17:07:57] BitMEX_Sam : But I'll fix that real quick, why not.
[2017-01-19 17:07:58] wurstgelee : hehe, yes
[2017-01-19 17:08:13] wurstgelee : i tested it, i could use 100x leverage for zec :p
[2017-01-19 17:08:17] wurstgelee : *couldnt
[2017-01-19 17:08:52] BitMEX_Sam : Nah, we validate everything at the engine anyhow
[2017-01-19 17:08:59] BitMEX_Sam : Otherwise you'd be able to do all kinds of shenanigans via the API
[2017-01-19 17:09:17] thedoc : 0kcoin dump
[2017-01-19 17:13:08] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: could the altcoin pruducts be extended to two weeks instead of one?
[2017-01-19 17:13:36] BitMEX_Sam : BTCDJS: At this point in time we have no plans for that, but we are evaluating how we can make the alts more tradeable
[2017-01-19 17:13:38] BitMEX_Sam : I'll keep that in mind.
[2017-01-19 17:13:52] BTCDJS : K
[2017-01-19 17:14:25] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: why is it only 7 days?
[2017-01-19 17:14:48] BitMEX_Sam : Less risk for people who want to MM it
[2017-01-19 17:15:00] BTCDJS : I see
[2017-01-19 17:15:14] BitMEX_Sam : Liquidity is our #1 concern for those contracts, so compromises have to be made.
[2017-01-19 17:16:28] BTCDJS : So we need to talk shrek into proving more liquidity with his bank balance
[2017-01-19 17:16:42] BTCDJS : providing
[2017-01-19 17:18:01] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-01-19 17:18:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 25000 @ 885.68
[2017-01-19 17:18:28] ronensinger : Damn these markets are liquid
[2017-01-19 17:20:24] thedoc : chop chop
[2017-01-19 17:20:28] thedoc : up n down and up we going
[2017-01-19 17:22:17] ronensinger : These markets are too epaceful
[2017-01-19 17:22:21] ronensinger : We need some volatility
[2017-01-19 17:26:41] ronensinger : aNYONE MARKET MAKING HERE?
[2017-01-19 17:26:49] ronensinger : Sorry for caps
[2017-01-19 17:27:45] abbey : 888 shorters, good luck with those :D
[2017-01-19 17:29:02] Yuppie : Alt contracts against USD would be great, Bitmex team
[2017-01-19 17:29:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 893.12
[2017-01-19 17:29:27] ronensinger : nOW THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT
[2017-01-19 17:29:27] Yuppie : XMR and ETH at least
[2017-01-19 17:29:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 40000 @ 896.38
[2017-01-19 17:29:55] Yuppie : XMR and ETH
[2017-01-19 17:31:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 5000 @ 900.27
[2017-01-19 17:31:48] zcashequalslambo : go up and up and up
[2017-01-19 17:32:05] rowrow : 8888 let's go china you can do it
[2017-01-19 17:32:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 898.46
[2017-01-19 17:36:15] BTCDJS : Shake out the fomo longs shake out the fomo shorts
[2017-01-19 17:45:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6000 @ 901.23
[2017-01-19 17:50:54] abbey : bears are desperate
[2017-01-19 17:53:52] Papou : i dont get why they keep pumping this
[2017-01-19 17:54:21] Papou : its sad
[2017-01-19 17:54:47] knikky : tapped my liquidation, bastards got me
[2017-01-19 17:54:51] knikky : at the very peak
[2017-01-19 18:01:50] sleger : just dont short bitcoin, never
[2017-01-19 18:04:34] charlyko : almost we are in a new top
[2017-01-19 18:13:38] pumper : who the fuck is shorting btc lol
[2017-01-19 18:14:11] NeoXx : what are the expectations on price
[2017-01-19 18:14:15] NeoXx : not sure whether to long more
[2017-01-19 18:16:37] ixess : NeoXx: seems like we can't know until it starts the next move
[2017-01-19 18:20:30] aethlios : what are the news about PBOC investigation? is it over? will there be a summary announcement?
[2017-01-19 18:21:16] ixess : aethlios: news is coming up on friday i think, let me check
[2017-01-19 18:21:22] BTCDJS : aethlios: Have they announced? All I heard was that margin is suspended on 0kcoin
[2017-01-19 18:23:01] BTCDJS : aethlios: Sleger told me that the US will carry the price up and that 0kcoin margin suspension isnt a big deal
[2017-01-19 18:23:54] datboiyuan : okcoin holding deposits for verification
[2017-01-19 18:24:01] datboiyuan : in some cases
[2017-01-19 18:27:43] sleger : aethlios: fyi, I never said what the troll said
[2017-01-19 18:29:24] aethlios : will pboc do the most important to match reserves and client capital? if those exchanges manipulated price like mtgox did, maybe are short in customers capital. this means default, run on the exchanges etc.
[2017-01-19 18:29:47] BTCDJS : aethlios: Thats is actually true. Shrek didnt say that
[2017-01-19 18:29:59] aethlios : how are profitable with no fees??
[2017-01-19 18:30:09] datboiyuan : bc thye have all the coin nigga
[2017-01-19 18:30:39] sleger : aethlios: ads
[2017-01-19 18:30:41] aethlios : okcoin futures have fees, but big 3 spot chinese don't, how they pay their expenses??
[2017-01-19 18:31:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5000 @ 897.96
[2017-01-19 18:31:14] thedoc : dang 100x long rekt
[2017-01-19 18:33:13] Apocalyptic : aethlios: withdrawal fee
[2017-01-19 18:34:54] thedoc : aethlios: trade against their users
[2017-01-19 18:35:38] BitMEX_Sam : That's a rather interesting history overall, as they used to have pretty high fees in the beginning.
[2017-01-19 18:36:07] aethlios : my bad senario is that those exchanges are broke, have less reserves than clients money, will happen a run on their reserves. this will crash the price much lower (gox * 3), and that will be the bottom, we continue with west exchanges etc.
[2017-01-19 18:36:16] BitMEX_Sam : Then if I recall correctly, Huobi did a fee-free promotion that ended up never ending and everyone else went along with it.
[2017-01-19 18:37:48] datboiyuan : theyre not demanding repayment, so I assume they think they'll break even with their outstanding debt and the client's money they don't have ya dig
[2017-01-19 18:47:28] moo : massive scam! tomorrow Okcoin CEO arrested
[2017-01-19 18:48:47] BTCDJS : WRONG
[2017-01-19 18:49:09] moo : Trump will put the Okcoin/Huobi fraud artists in JAIL
[2017-01-19 18:49:18] moo : bitcoin is DONE!
[2017-01-19 18:49:41] BTCDJS : moo: Make sure to short all the way up
[2017-01-19 18:50:17] moo : there is no up
[2017-01-19 18:50:20] moo : only collapse
[2017-01-19 18:50:45] BTCDJS : moo: Yeah do the opposite of buy the dip
[2017-01-19 18:51:21] abbey : lol those shorters
[2017-01-19 18:51:43] moo : shorters = sharps
[2017-01-19 18:51:54] moo : bulls = lazy and high on hopium
[2017-01-19 18:54:21] moo : just looking for a sweet spot to 100x this trap
[2017-01-19 18:55:07] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: I looked into the tips you gave on youtube etc, rly good. I must practice patience :P And stop losses...
[2017-01-19 18:56:03] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: Glad you found good content mate
[2017-01-19 18:56:32] moo : the only tip you need is find a spot to 100x short the bitcoin and get real money
[2017-01-19 18:56:39] moo : no fear
[2017-01-19 18:56:51] KyllingLolsson : ...
[2017-01-19 18:57:01] KyllingLolsson : just close my eyes and hit any button
[2017-01-19 19:00:16] sleger : moo: how did it feel like to get rekt ?
[2017-01-19 19:00:31] moo : sleger: dont give a hoot son
[2017-01-19 19:00:44] moo : sleger: there are always a way to get back in the game, with loans
[2017-01-19 19:00:46] Apocalyptic : moo: u rekt mate ?
[2017-01-19 19:01:05] KyllingLolsson : +73% right now @BTCDJS but im only playing around with couple of bucks
[2017-01-19 19:01:10] sleger : "[2017-01-19 12:20:15] moo : 888.3 i am ia m broke and my future is macdonalds worker"
[2017-01-19 19:01:13] BTCDJS : Yeah he got rekt shorting the bottom
[2017-01-19 19:01:23] Apocalyptic : sleger: I see
[2017-01-19 19:01:24] thedoc : mcdonalds has the grand mac now. big macs daddy
[2017-01-19 19:01:58] moo : i am half broke but my spirit is not broken
[2017-01-19 19:02:01] moo : and thats what matters
[2017-01-19 19:02:14] Apocalyptic : moo: taking out loans to do gamble. best .idea. ever
[2017-01-19 19:02:29] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: Yeah dont get greedy mate. Just little by little make more than you lose
[2017-01-19 19:03:04] KyllingLolsson : have i tite stop loss
[2017-01-19 19:03:57] KyllingLolsson : 7 dollar trailing
[2017-01-19 19:04:44] sleger : moo: you're right. Worst case you can always eat dead rats in the streets
[2017-01-19 19:04:49] sleger : keep the spirit up !
[2017-01-19 19:07:13] KyllingLolsson : made it 5 dollar trailing stop.. because of my allready high profit
[2017-01-19 19:09:26] Kinda : Hi
[2017-01-19 19:09:54] Kinda : Does the PNL calculator takes my x25 into account?
[2017-01-19 19:11:01] BitMEX_Greg : Kinda: That is only for ROE purposes
[2017-01-19 19:11:04] BTCDJS : Kinda: it goes off how many contracts no matter what the levarage. Because of the margin you put in
[2017-01-19 19:11:08] sleger : with a factor of 25x it should be easy to see
[2017-01-19 19:12:40] thedoc : short now and wait for xbth17 premium to go negative again
[2017-01-19 19:12:59] Kinda : so if I want to use a position with 25x , I can send ETH to this account and open a long position on ETH ?
[2017-01-19 19:13:09] ixess : why did the cost of the same position go up 50% for the same leverage?
[2017-01-19 19:13:34] BTCDJS : Kinda: You cant send anything other than bitcoin to this site
[2017-01-19 19:13:49] MikeHunt : i dont think we're at the top yet
[2017-01-19 19:13:55] BTCDJS : you use your bitcoin to bet on outcomes
[2017-01-19 19:14:22] Kinda : I see I can close my contracts any time though?
[2017-01-19 19:14:48] MikeHunt : Kinda: yup, if you bought, you sell, if you sold, you buy
[2017-01-19 19:14:51] MikeHunt : to cancel out
[2017-01-19 19:14:52] BTCDJS : Kinda: yeah just place an order for the same amount the opposite direction
[2017-01-19 19:15:14] BTCDJS : so if you were long 2000 then you go short 2000 to close
[2017-01-19 19:16:26] Kinda : BTCDJS: ny taking leverage into account? I mean if I go 200 x 10 = 2000 long with leverage
[2017-01-19 19:16:43] Kinda : I open a short position of 200 x10 = 2000
[2017-01-19 19:18:16] sleger : if you short you will get rekt
[2017-01-19 19:18:57] Kinda : sleger: well if I need to close my position
[2017-01-19 19:19:19] thedoc : are we at the top of the bull trap #btc
[2017-01-19 19:19:36] sleger : ^ forgot to take his pill
[2017-01-19 19:20:17] BTCDJS : Kinda: The profit and loss calculator will always give you the right answer no matter what levarage or contracts. Reason for this is, If say you want 3000 contracts at 25x you will use less margin from your wallet. But if you want 3000 contracts at 5x you will use more of you wallet balance to have 3000.
[2017-01-19 19:21:34] BTCDJS : The calc is taking your X number of contracts from price A to price B
[2017-01-19 19:21:37] thedoc : BitMEX has updated! Please refresh your browser to get the latest features & performance improvements.
[2017-01-19 19:22:04] dodic : Thank for the update :)
[2017-01-19 19:22:21] Kinda : BTCDJS: shouldn't it be the opposite?
[2017-01-19 19:23:41] BTCDJS : The amount of leverage you pick determines how much of your own money you are putting in. So the calc will work for me if Im 50X 3000 contracts and it will work for you if you are 5X 3000 contracts.
[2017-01-19 19:24:12] BTCDJS : if we entred and exit at the same prices the numbers will be the same
[2017-01-19 19:24:37] thedoc : thanks for the calculator update Bitmex. christmas came a bit late but i'm happy
[2017-01-19 19:24:39] BTCDJS : only difference is im 50X so I put less money in to get 3000 than you
[2017-01-19 19:25:22] BTCDJS : your 5x so you will need to put more bitcoin in to get 3000.
[2017-01-19 19:25:54] BTCDJS : But the downside is im 50x so I can get liquidated quicker than you
[2017-01-19 19:28:08] Baseballman : I like the calculator feature.. was it there before and I just overlooked it?
[2017-01-19 19:28:27] thedoc : Baseballman: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/frontend-update-jan-19-2017/
[2017-01-19 19:28:36] thedoc : it's like 40 minutes old
[2017-01-19 19:28:48] BitMEX_Sam : There was always a calculator, but only the PNL section
[2017-01-19 19:29:26] thedoc : i like how it shows current price for swap and march 31 next to the tabs
[2017-01-19 19:29:27] KyllingLolsson : yeah lovley calculator!
[2017-01-19 19:29:36] Noobz : I like that liquidation part
[2017-01-19 19:29:48] Kinda : BTCDJS: thank you a lot I understand it now !
[2017-01-19 19:29:54] thedoc : although doesnt sem to auto update
[2017-01-19 19:30:02] trat : BitMEX_Sam: Triggering price updating get fixed?
[2017-01-19 19:30:05] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: was I correctly describing how the calc works for @Kinda
[2017-01-19 19:30:13] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm, I'm seeing that too re: the price updates, will take a look.
[2017-01-19 19:30:30] BitMEX_Sam : BTCDJS: Yeah, leverage doesn't change your profit, only your ROE
[2017-01-19 19:30:46] BitMEX_Sam : trat: Believe so, yes, will check the logs
[2017-01-19 19:32:34] NeoXx : A beginner question: I have a long position which I bought two days ago and my available balance was 0 since I used up all the deposit. However after 2 days my available balance has grown, why is that? I thought we only profit/lose when we close the position
[2017-01-19 19:33:14] anonymous123421 : NeoXx: Funding is added to realized PNL
[2017-01-19 19:33:17] BTCDJS : NeoXx: funding
[2017-01-19 19:33:26] BTCDJS : Shorts paid longs
[2017-01-19 19:33:27] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-01-19 19:34:18] NeoXx : got it
[2017-01-19 19:34:18] NeoXx : thanks
[2017-01-19 19:34:59] BTCDJS : NeoXx: if you see funding is -0.XXXX longs get paid
[2017-01-19 19:35:26] BTCDJS : If you see funding rate is 0.xxxx shorts get paid
[2017-01-19 19:37:03] NeoXx : and its irrespective of leverage?
[2017-01-19 19:37:13] BitMEX_Sam : It's based on the position size only.
[2017-01-19 19:39:22] NeoXx : understood, thanks
[2017-01-19 19:41:03] Kinda : with the calculator I have and exit value of 0.35 XBT and a ROE% of 453 to calculate my total btc I just do 0.35*4,53?
[2017-01-19 19:42:00] BitMEX_Sam : It's in the Profit/Loss entry
[2017-01-19 19:42:16] BitMEX_Sam : Profit/Loss is what you really made, ROE is relative to how much margin you put up
[2017-01-19 19:42:43] BitMEX_Sam : So if you put up 1 Bitcoin and made 1% (0.01 Bitcoin), that'd be 0.0100 Profit, 1% Profit % and 100% ROE at 100x
[2017-01-19 19:42:52] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: any way to unload the chart in the advanced layout ? i'm missing the icon
[2017-01-19 19:43:01] BitMEX_Sam : Just resize it to be as small as it goes
[2017-01-19 19:44:15] Kinda : BitMEX_Sam: so if I have a profit of 0.35 with a ROE 453.42%?
[2017-01-19 19:44:20] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: I managed to, just not sure it does unload it from memory
[2017-01-19 19:44:45] Kinda : BitMEX_Sam: 1.93 XBT?
[2017-01-19 19:45:33] BitMEX_Sam : Apocalyptic: It does
[2017-01-19 19:45:36] BitMEX_Sam : Kinda: No, don't multiply
[2017-01-19 19:45:40] BitMEX_Sam : Your profit is 0.35
[2017-01-19 19:45:43] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for confirming
[2017-01-19 19:46:07] Kinda : BitMEX_Sam: but why take the risk to *25 then :/
[2017-01-19 19:46:20] BitMEX_Sam : Because you had to put up far less margin to do so.
[2017-01-19 19:47:57] anonymous123421 : BitMEX_Sam: Nice changes, I like seeing the price of the futures contract on the button to look at it.
[2017-01-19 19:48:08] Apocalyptic : yeah that's really helpful
[2017-01-19 19:48:23] Kinda : BitMEX_Sam: sorry but it does not make sense for me. by going x25 I take more risk to be liquidated faster but I expect also my gains to be higher. What is the point to leverage trade if I get the same result as If I wasn't leverage trading
[2017-01-19 19:48:41] BitMEX_Greg : Kinda: You are using less margin by having a higher leverage
[2017-01-19 19:48:52] esuvari : BitMEX_Sam: hi Sam, the profit loss calculator won't update the margin when you change the leverage value
[2017-01-19 19:49:01] BitMEX_Sam : esuvari: Yes, just noticed that and pushing a fix now :)
[2017-01-19 19:49:10] BitMEX_Greg : Kinda: If you want to use more margin, then you simply need to buy more contracts. Your profit is based on the amount of contracts you enter and exit out of
[2017-01-19 19:49:14] esuvari : ok, thanks
[2017-01-19 19:52:10] NeoXx : Kinda: in other words, if your order costs 1XBT with no leverage, it will cost 1/25XBT with 25x leverage. So if you want to spend the same amount of money and use the 25x leverage you have to increase quantity by 25x
[2017-01-19 19:52:38] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: yes those prices on subtabs are useful ! Maybe you could even squeeze them on main tabs, even if smaller, that would be useful to not have to click on any altcoin to see its price crashing
[2017-01-19 19:52:53] Kinda : NeoXx: yes I did understand that but if I go long and my coin goes long I make more profit by going x25 right?
[2017-01-19 19:53:01] Kinda : NeoXx: since I have more buy power
[2017-01-19 19:53:08] NeoXx : Kinda: yes
[2017-01-19 19:53:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3745 @ 896.50
[2017-01-19 19:55:03] BitMEX_Greg : Kinda: Your profit and loss is entirely dependent on how much contracts you buy or sell. Let's say you buy 100 contracts ($100), your PNL is exactly the same irrespective if you use 1x leverage, 5x leverage, or even 100x leverage
[2017-01-19 19:55:23] knikky : dat descending triangle
[2017-01-19 19:56:08] NeoXx : Kinda: it works the other way around than you thought, I also fell for this at first. When you put say 10x leverage on a 1XBT order, its not that you control 10XBT with 1XBT, but you control 1XBT with 10 times less money (0.1XBT).
[2017-01-19 19:58:01] Kinda : NeoXx: Yes I see thank you so if I had 0.1 btc profit without my 10x I will get 1 btc profit with my 10 x?
[2017-01-19 19:58:01] BitMEX_Sam : esuvari: That's fixed.
[2017-01-19 19:58:21] BitMEX_Sam : Kinda: You would, if you used that 10x to open a 10x larger position.
[2017-01-19 19:58:36] esuvari : yep, seems fixed. thanks
[2017-01-19 19:59:40] NeoXx : Kinda: yes, but don't forget to increase quantity by 10x
[2017-01-19 20:00:19] NeoXx : Kinda: in other words with 10x leverage, you can buy a 10x bigger position, that's what you want
[2017-01-19 20:00:43] Kinda : NeoXx: yes :) I have dragged to little point to x10
[2017-01-19 20:00:43] NeoXx : Kinda: for the same amount of invested cash
[2017-01-19 20:01:36] NeoXx : Kinda: check the cost, its 10x less now
[2017-01-19 20:03:00] Kinda : NeoXx: sorry where do I see that
[2017-01-19 20:04:02] Kinda : NeoXx: I put my number of contracts in dragged the button to x10 and pushed on buy / long
[2017-01-19 20:04:18] NeoXx : Cost is written below Buy/Long button
[2017-01-19 20:05:06] Kinda : NeoXx: 22 @ 0.0135588
[2017-01-19 20:05:49] NeoXx : Kinda: that's the cost with 10x leverage, with no leverage it would be 10x that value
[2017-01-19 20:07:07] Kinda : NeoXx: so for 22 contracts I pay 0.013588
[2017-01-19 20:07:22] Kinda : NeoXx: how come I still have XBT available?
[2017-01-19 20:08:05] NeoXx : Kinda: its because you used leverage, it makes your order cheaper, you have to increase the quantity the same number of times as you chose leverage if you want to invest all you have on the account