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[2017-01-18 09:11:34] MikeHunt : would u be worried right now?
[2017-01-18 09:11:54] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: maybe for the next day or so
[2017-01-18 09:12:01] narnarfromnarnia : but that daily should turn
[2017-01-18 09:12:20] narnarfromnarnia : lol 160k on the ask now
[2017-01-18 09:12:25] l3f : MikeHunt: it'll dump but hold onto the long
[2017-01-18 09:12:28] l3f : because it's a shakeout
[2017-01-18 09:12:29] narnarfromnarnia : this is whale manipulation
[2017-01-18 09:12:30] l3f : a coming
[2017-01-18 09:13:08] MikeHunt : l3f: yeh i saw a chart on trading view, suggesting a slight dip before the march to 6.4k
[2017-01-18 09:13:14] MikeHunt : i should have waited i guess
[2017-01-18 09:13:49] l3f : MikeHunt: Timing the market is impossible
[2017-01-18 09:13:52] l3f : we often miss the top and bottoms
[2017-01-18 09:14:07] l3f : (we WILL miss the tops and and bottoms)
[2017-01-18 09:14:08] ayy_lmao : l3f: +1
[2017-01-18 09:14:25] l3f : as long as youre general direction is fine
[2017-01-18 09:14:45] MikeHunt : the chart also said after 6.4k it was to 3.6k, thats what im afriad of
[2017-01-18 09:14:52] l3f : MikeHunt: lmao
[2017-01-18 09:14:53] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-01-18 09:14:56] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-18 09:15:02] l3f : nah 6k ish is accumulation for the whale
[2017-01-18 09:15:05] l3f : sideways = accumulation
[2017-01-18 09:15:17] l3f : this is the shake out
[2017-01-18 09:15:23] l3f : ride it out
[2017-01-18 09:15:35] l3f : 5900 in the next hour
[2017-01-18 09:15:52] l3f : he took the time to draw a H&S for you
[2017-01-18 09:16:01] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-18 09:16:09] narnarfromnarnia : yes and now crush all the shorts opening up here
[2017-01-18 09:16:10] VenCap : lots of longs getting REKT
[2017-01-18 09:16:18] l3f : now the whale is drawing the right shoulder
[2017-01-18 09:16:23] l3f : and it will plummet
[2017-01-18 09:16:29] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: what time frame
[2017-01-18 09:16:29] l3f : and longs will cry
[2017-01-18 09:16:32] dodic : such an artist
[2017-01-18 09:16:34] narnarfromnarnia : is the h&2
[2017-01-18 09:16:37] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: 1h
[2017-01-18 09:16:38] narnarfromnarnia : h&s
[2017-01-18 09:16:41] l3f : OKC
[2017-01-18 09:16:49] VenCap : agreed. red day today
[2017-01-18 09:17:15] narnarfromnarnia : hmm
[2017-01-18 09:17:18] ayy_lmao : http://imgur.com/a/7hIDp
[2017-01-18 09:17:29] dodic : ayy_lmao: hah!
[2017-01-18 09:17:37] dodic : somone needs to photoshop the h&s on that
[2017-01-18 09:17:39] ayy_lmao : need to turn that into a dank meme
[2017-01-18 09:17:39] VenCap : lols
[2017-01-18 09:17:43] ayy_lmao : change the painting to chart
[2017-01-18 09:17:49] ayy_lmao : yah lol
[2017-01-18 09:17:58] MikeHunt : i can do that
[2017-01-18 09:17:59] MikeHunt : 1 mo
[2017-01-18 09:18:03] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-18 09:18:04] VenCap : $850 knocking on the door i think
[2017-01-18 09:18:18] VenCap : that will be my lnog price
[2017-01-18 09:18:22] VenCap : long
[2017-01-18 09:18:23] dodic : whales at work
[2017-01-18 09:18:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 882.14
[2017-01-18 09:19:44] Derreck : the question is - will it break 6000
[2017-01-18 09:20:09] l3f : Derreck: For sure
[2017-01-18 09:20:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1004 @ 880.80
[2017-01-18 09:20:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 879.70
[2017-01-18 09:21:20] micmix : 1-2-3, panic!
[2017-01-18 09:22:37] lockhedge : micmix: hey micmix! did you read the bloomberg article about bitcoin and HFT? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-16/high-speed-traders-are-taking-over-bitcoin-as-easy-money-beckons
[2017-01-18 09:22:47] lockhedge : "Chen says he’s generated annualized gains of 50 percent for his own account, though he declined a Bloomberg News request to provide transaction details verifying his claims"
[2017-01-18 09:22:50] l3f : lockhedge: the guy made 50%
[2017-01-18 09:22:52] l3f : in a year!
[2017-01-18 09:23:01] l3f : I made like 300% in a month rofl
[2017-01-18 09:23:11] haxmb : l3f: with bitcoin going up 100% in a year
[2017-01-18 09:23:16] haxmb : such an achievement
[2017-01-18 09:23:17] l3f : maybe his algorithm isn't such a degenerate gambler
[2017-01-18 09:23:23] l3f : haxmb: hahaha
[2017-01-18 09:23:25] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: probably different amounts
[2017-01-18 09:23:28] micmix : lockhedge: no, didn't read this one
[2017-01-18 09:23:33] narnarfromnarnia : of $$$ to manage
[2017-01-18 09:23:46] micmix : but 50% pa is very low
[2017-01-18 09:25:20] VenCap : Todays letter R for REKT
[2017-01-18 09:25:21] lockhedge : if the returns are in CNY, he lost 50% compared to just holding bitcoin
[2017-01-18 09:25:24] haxmb : in this business it is
[2017-01-18 09:25:34] haxmb : 50% is pathetic
[2017-01-18 09:26:09] ayy_lmao : when you get made fun of for 50% gains
[2017-01-18 09:26:16] ayy_lmao : f*cking n00b!
[2017-01-18 09:26:42] haxmb : ayy_lmao: ayy lmao
[2017-01-18 09:26:43] haxmb : :D
[2017-01-18 09:27:05] haxmb : poor fellow must have been using 0.5x leverage
[2017-01-18 09:27:16] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-18 09:27:27] haxmb : :D :D :D
[2017-01-18 09:28:02] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/WKn9a3o.png
[2017-01-18 09:28:10] ayy_lmao : LOL
[2017-01-18 09:28:30] haxmb : Looks nice but im not so sure it's gonna go down that far
[2017-01-18 09:28:49] trestres : micmix: do you trade high frequency?
[2017-01-18 09:28:59] ayy_lmao : its all good
[2017-01-18 09:29:03] dodic : MikeHunt: hahah
[2017-01-18 09:29:07] ayy_lmao : just pull that out everytime we dump
[2017-01-18 09:29:23] ayy_lmao : to scare the kiddie
[2017-01-18 09:30:22] micmix : lockhedge: I hope it's in bitcoin but still low. just lending on exchanges would get him around 25-30%, most likely with less risk
[2017-01-18 09:30:57] haxmb : micmix: yeah like on bitfinex
[2017-01-18 09:31:03] haxmb : /s
[2017-01-18 09:32:18] micmix : trestres: there is no HFT in bitcoin, most I can do is about 20 order submits/cancels per second on OKC
[2017-01-18 09:33:01] haxmb : micmix: my best burst is around 30ms/trade over there i think
[2017-01-18 09:33:14] haxmb : so around that number too
[2017-01-18 09:33:50] narnarfromnarnia : trying to get shorts opened up here it looks like
[2017-01-18 09:33:52] micmix : haxmb: by keeping trading capital on exchanges he assumes the same counterparty risk in addition to all other trading risks
[2017-01-18 09:33:57] narnarfromnarnia : 115k there holding it down
[2017-01-18 09:36:05] trestres : micmix: why there is no HFT in bitcoin? technical reasons or other?
[2017-01-18 09:38:29] micmix : technical reasons, exchange trade engine/infrastructure limitations
[2017-01-18 09:38:52] trestres : micmix: ok... thank you
[2017-01-18 09:39:45] micmix : but I think order flow is not there either, so there is no point to do HFT
[2017-01-18 09:39:55] MikeHunt : also if we do hit 8888 again.... http://i.imgur.com/IwpIX8U.png
[2017-01-18 09:40:36] arbitrage101 : micmix: any tips to learn all this?
[2017-01-18 09:40:51] arbitrage101 : direction, articles
[2017-01-18 09:41:05] arbitrage101 : 50% + return roi sound awesome
[2017-01-18 09:42:07] l3f : arbitrage101: 50% return = sell -x1 btc on here and collect interest apparently
[2017-01-18 09:44:10] micmix : arbitrage101: you mean HFT? it's math/statistics plus a lot of programming
[2017-01-18 09:44:36] arbitrage101 : just normal algo trading
[2017-01-18 09:44:43] micmix : have to be good at both or have people specializing on one or the other
[2017-01-18 09:44:48] arbitrage101 : is there a method to make profit consistently?
[2017-01-18 09:45:15] micmix : market making and arb
[2017-01-18 09:47:44] trestres : and today... but tomorrow not, also earn because of children gambling
[2017-01-18 10:00:27] Noobz : why not tomorrow?
[2017-01-18 10:03:24] trestres : because a higher number of professional traders like micmix plus insiders will eat all the pie
[2017-01-18 10:04:38] Noobz : gamblers just deposit and try to make up for their losses ---> New pie
[2017-01-18 10:05:42] trestres : the proportion will change, gamblers will exist also in future
[2017-01-18 10:06:39] Noobz : true enough
[2017-01-18 10:14:00] haxmb : arbitrage101: "is there a method to make profit consistently?" yeah sure here is a way to make money with no downside, free profits for all yo
[2017-01-18 10:15:00] haxmb : arbitrage101: arbitrage and market making are ways to balance your risk and return in a favorable way but there is no method to make consistent profit
[2017-01-18 10:15:11] arbitrage101 : haxmb: i see
[2017-01-18 10:15:37] arbitrage101 : cuz you guys are giving impression that 50% return in low
[2017-01-18 10:15:42] haxmb : yeah it is low
[2017-01-18 10:15:44] arbitrage101 : is low
[2017-01-18 10:15:48] haxmb : because there are so many opportunities
[2017-01-18 10:16:11] arbitrage101 : because price discrepancies?
[2017-01-18 10:16:21] haxmb : thats one for instance
[2017-01-18 10:16:28] haxmb : theres a lot of em
[2017-01-18 10:16:41] haxmb : but explaining them all is not the brightest idea
[2017-01-18 10:16:55] haxmb : since they are the ways I / micmix / others make money
[2017-01-18 10:17:01] arbitrage101 : lol
[2017-01-18 10:17:03] haxmb : kinda stupid to give it away
[2017-01-18 10:17:10] arbitrage101 : not manay traders are also coders
[2017-01-18 10:17:19] haxmb : well if you dont code yet
[2017-01-18 10:17:25] haxmb : i'd almost say no use in starting
[2017-01-18 10:17:30] haxmb : since you're behind 5-10 years
[2017-01-18 10:17:36] arbitrage101 : i can code, just that i dont enjoy doing it
[2017-01-18 10:17:54] haxmb : well then i dont recommend coding your own trading program
[2017-01-18 10:18:14] haxmb : I've had coding binges where i couldnt sleep for day because I was so amped up about what i was building
[2017-01-18 10:18:20] arbitrage101 : need to love coding to start algo trading?
[2017-01-18 10:18:23] haxmb : for days*
[2017-01-18 10:18:39] haxmb : no need to love coding, but is sure as fck helps if you like doing it
[2017-01-18 10:18:43] arbitrage101 : lots of modification and revision?
[2017-01-18 10:19:01] arbitrage101 : started a bot a month ago, blow up after a week
[2017-01-18 10:19:09] arbitrage101 : when bitcoin started a strong bull run
[2017-01-18 10:19:15] haxmb : why'd it blow up?
[2017-01-18 10:19:25] haxmb : shorted into the rally?
[2017-01-18 10:19:26] arbitrage101 : was MMing
[2017-01-18 10:19:37] arbitrage101 : price keeps going up, position becomes inbalance
[2017-01-18 10:19:55] haxmb : well maybe you should build something to manage your position
[2017-01-18 10:20:00] arbitrage101 : i did
[2017-01-18 10:20:10] arbitrage101 : i limit the size to only 3000
[2017-01-18 10:20:14] haxmb : haha
[2017-01-18 10:20:18] arbitrage101 : so, only small loss when it blow up
[2017-01-18 10:20:20] haxmb : how does that manage it
[2017-01-18 10:20:29] arbitrage101 : only quoting 400
[2017-01-18 10:20:35] haxmb : so it just holds a $3000 short all the way to the top
[2017-01-18 10:20:48] arbitrage101 : when position size is 3000, the bot stops
[2017-01-18 10:20:51] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-01-18 10:20:58] haxmb : well you should build something that makes it buy back
[2017-01-18 10:21:05] haxmb : even if at a loss if needed
[2017-01-18 10:21:07] arbitrage101 : i did
[2017-01-18 10:21:10] haxmb : since price keeps going up
[2017-01-18 10:21:14] arbitrage101 : but the price never fall, even slig
[2017-01-18 10:21:26] haxmb : maybe you should incorporate your name into the system
[2017-01-18 10:21:33] arbitrage101 : lol
[2017-01-18 10:21:43] arbitrage101 : cross exchanges bot, i am not at that level yet
[2017-01-18 10:21:51] haxmb : well if you can build for bitmex
[2017-01-18 10:21:55] haxmb : why not add a second exchange
[2017-01-18 10:21:59] haxmb : cant be that hard
[2017-01-18 10:22:02] arbitrage101 : good idea
[2017-01-18 10:22:15] arbitrage101 : i imagine you need a lot of failed safe in place
[2017-01-18 10:22:22] haxmb : i trade on 11 exchanges
[2017-01-18 10:22:24] arbitrage101 : cuz of lag
[2017-01-18 10:22:29] arbitrage101 : geez
[2017-01-18 10:22:45] arbitrage101 : i only found 4-5 exchanges that is "trust worthy
[2017-01-18 10:22:54] haxmb : sure
[2017-01-18 10:22:59] haxmb : everybody has their own risk tolerance
[2017-01-18 10:23:10] haxmb : i have less balance on btc-e than on bitmex
[2017-01-18 10:23:19] haxmb : since btc-e is not very trustworthy
[2017-01-18 10:24:23] arbitrage101 : actually, based on record, they are more trust worthy than finex and stamp
[2017-01-18 10:24:34] haxmb : well they fucked everyone with ETH over during the hard fork
[2017-01-18 10:25:30] haxmb : they had no clue about the ETC replay attack
[2017-01-18 10:25:38] haxmb : their whole ETC balance got drained in hours
[2017-01-18 10:25:59] haxmb : and then they tweeted that ETC is a scam and nobody is going to get any ETC since their wallet got drained
[2017-01-18 10:26:48] arbitrage101 : i see
[2017-01-18 10:27:27] arbitrage101 : algo trading btc is your full time work?
[2017-01-18 10:27:49] haxmb : yup
[2017-01-18 10:27:54] arbitrage101 : is it worth it?
[2017-01-18 10:27:59] haxmb : heh
[2017-01-18 10:28:02] arbitrage101 : maybe i should really start
[2017-01-18 10:28:10] arbitrage101 : cost of living where i am is pretty low
[2017-01-18 10:28:15] haxmb : if you get good it can be worth it
[2017-01-18 10:28:20] ResQue : hey all i am new
[2017-01-18 10:28:26] haxmb : hola ResQue
[2017-01-18 10:28:43] ResQue : hey haxmb wasnt sure if it would work i am on the IRC channel
[2017-01-18 10:28:58] haxmb : arbitrage101: i have no clue how I could make this amount of money in the "real world"
[2017-01-18 10:29:05] haxmb : ResQue: yup working fine :D
[2017-01-18 10:29:20] arbitrage101 : must be really awesome
[2017-01-18 10:29:22] ResQue : thanks]
[2017-01-18 10:29:28] arbitrage101 : what do you do before btc?
[2017-01-18 10:29:30] dodic : haxmb: i've been lurking this convo, thanks for sharing a bit :)
[2017-01-18 10:29:35] haxmb : dodic: :O
[2017-01-18 10:29:45] haxmb : lurk0rz in muh convos
[2017-01-18 10:29:53] haxmb : arbitrage101: student
[2017-01-18 10:30:06] arbitrage101 : which part of the world
[2017-01-18 10:30:13] haxmb : EU :D
[2017-01-18 10:30:22] arbitrage101 : many students i meet these days, especially in the west
[2017-01-18 10:30:24] ResQue : i am a programmer, been buying and selling small amounts of bitcoin for a few years now. Interested in talking about and learning more about how money works and automated trading strategies.
[2017-01-18 10:30:33] arbitrage101 : are dumb and ignorant
[2017-01-18 10:30:35] dodic : haxmb: I wrote my first lending bot this week, do you think its worth it optimizing it or should I just go for arb etc
[2017-01-18 10:30:43] arbitrage101 : no offense ..
[2017-01-18 10:30:51] ResQue : dodic that sounds cool
[2017-01-18 10:30:53] haxmb : arbitrage101: :D cheers for the compliment
[2017-01-18 10:30:53] dodic : fairly new to this but programming for years
[2017-01-18 10:31:04] haxmb : dodic: if I were you I'd not bother with lending
[2017-01-18 10:31:22] ResQue : lending does sound kind of dangerous.
[2017-01-18 10:31:25] dodic : that's what i figured, but is was a nice way to learn the APIs
[2017-01-18 10:31:28] haxmb : its a suckers game
[2017-01-18 10:31:31] dodic : and Go
[2017-01-18 10:31:34] haxmb : yeah sure good start on API stuff
[2017-01-18 10:31:42] haxmb : I also once wrote something on finex for that
[2017-01-18 10:32:15] dodic : and then i watched the rates just slide down hah
[2017-01-18 10:32:25] dodic : I was like... well that was not very exciting
[2017-01-18 10:32:28] haxmb : hehe
[2017-01-18 10:32:42] haxmb : if a big move happens the rates will head back up again
[2017-01-18 10:33:12] haxmb : ResQue: where you from
[2017-01-18 10:33:25] ResQue : anyone have some good books or links on how monetary systems works or trading
[2017-01-18 10:34:05] lockhedge : this paper explains a basic market making model from a computer science perspective, should be relatively easy to understand for ppl without a finance background https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~softagents/papers/CR_nevmyvaka_sycara_seppi.pdf
[2017-01-18 10:34:25] arbitrage101 : lockhedge: thank you
[2017-01-18 10:34:28] ResQue : lockhedge thanks
[2017-01-18 10:34:31] arbitrage101 : will defineately read it
[2017-01-18 10:36:00] ResQue : Do all bitcoin exchanges require you to register a bank account or some kind of ID? I have no interesting in cashing out non-crypto currencies.
[2017-01-18 10:36:06] dodic : https://www.amazon.com/Random-Walk-Down-Wall-Street/dp/0393330338
[2017-01-18 10:36:23] haxmb : ResQue: nah you dont need a bank account
[2017-01-18 10:36:34] haxmb : usually they do want you to register your passport with them
[2017-01-18 10:36:39] haxmb : for the KYC/AML stuff
[2017-01-18 10:37:21] johndoe : ResQue: check out the Market Wizards series https://www.amazon.com/Market-Wizards-Updated-Interviews-Traders/dp/1118273052/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484735792&sr=8-1&keywords=market+wizards
[2017-01-18 10:37:48] johndoe : Great series going back 30 yrs. Interviews with some of the best traders from people like Paul Tudor Jones
[2017-01-18 10:38:33] ResQue : this looks like a really good book
[2017-01-18 10:38:33] johndoe : that book is kinda old, but the concepts are still the same. Trading is as much about psychology and emotional control than anything math-related.
[2017-01-18 10:38:35] ResQue : thans
[2017-01-18 10:39:25] johndoe : And here's the most recent book in the series. Not as good IMO, but more contemporary https://www.amazon.com/Hedge-Fund-Market-Wizards-Winning/dp/1118273044/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 It has people like Ray Dalio (boss of Bridgewater Associates - the largest hedge fund in the world).
[2017-01-18 10:40:41] ResQue : that does sound interesting, sounds like the sort of thing i need to read
[2017-01-18 10:41:20] haxmb : you can read a whole bunch of things
[2017-01-18 10:41:40] haxmb : but the only way you're gonna learn and improve is if you try it
[2017-01-18 10:41:56] haxmb : id recommend building a bot and giving it $50 to trade or something like that
[2017-01-18 10:42:04] haxmb : program a strategy
[2017-01-18 10:42:12] haxmb : and reasses based on performance
[2017-01-18 10:42:22] haxmb : market making / arbitrage
[2017-01-18 10:42:33] haxmb : i wouldnt try to build a TA bot or some shit like that
[2017-01-18 10:43:06] haxmb : because it all looks really cool afterwards, with the .382 fib lines and all the ichimoku cloud bs
[2017-01-18 10:43:11] ResQue : wouldn't a better idea be come up with a strategy then test it on historical data to see it works
[2017-01-18 10:43:14] dodic : haxmb: Thanks for the tips :)
[2017-01-18 10:43:25] haxmb : ResQue: if you want to lag behind sure
[2017-01-18 10:43:37] ResQue : why would you lag behind?
[2017-01-18 10:44:02] haxmb : because you are a) not live testing it, b) finding a fit for past data, which doesnt predict future data
[2017-01-18 10:44:17] haxmb : c) you will always be able to find a "perfect" strategy for past data
[2017-01-18 10:44:22] haxmb : but its gonna be fitted on that
[2017-01-18 10:44:34] haxmb : which is a major flaw and imo isnt gonna help you trade now
[2017-01-18 10:44:45] haxmb : dodic: cheers
[2017-01-18 10:44:45] johndoe : back-testing is good to do. Just don't optimize your model based on the results of that back-testing too much, if at all
[2017-01-18 10:44:56] haxmb : johndoe: <--- what the man says
[2017-01-18 10:44:58] ResQue : ok thanks for the advice
[2017-01-18 10:45:09] haxmb : you can backtest if you think of a strat
[2017-01-18 10:45:25] haxmb : but you shouldnt try to find a model based on the old data too much
[2017-01-18 10:45:38] haxmb : because shit changes all day
[2017-01-18 10:47:05] ResQue : maybe i should focus on what input effect price change
[2017-01-18 10:47:25] haxmb : ResQue: predicting price isnt gonna get you anywhere
[2017-01-18 10:47:31] ResQue : it seems random, maybe just a mess of people reading the news and selling when they get scared or happy. but maybe there is more to it?
[2017-01-18 10:47:44] haxmb : unless you have the biggest machine learning computing farm in the northern hemisphere
[2017-01-18 10:47:59] ResQue : not the biggest, but a very large one
[2017-01-18 10:48:17] haxmb : well then, go for it :)
[2017-01-18 10:48:54] ResQue : why do you think predicting prices is a bad idea? i am new and want to learn. I came here to meet other like minded people
[2017-01-18 10:49:13] haxmb : ResQue: because everybody wants that
[2017-01-18 10:49:21] haxmb : and if it is possible you will have infinite wealth
[2017-01-18 10:49:39] haxmb : its impossible to accurately predict the price
[2017-01-18 10:49:46] haxmb : just trade the waves bro
[2017-01-18 10:50:23] ResQue : lol ok
[2017-01-18 10:57:53] muirtastic : Is there a way to export all of your trade history, instead of just 1 page of 100 records?
[2017-01-18 11:00:20] haxmb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-01-18 11:00:24] haxmb : top right, save as CSV ?
[2017-01-18 11:00:33] thailand : I think he wants it all as one CSV is the issue
[2017-01-18 11:00:40] thailand : have to look at some code for that muir
[2017-01-18 11:00:55] lockhedge : muirtastic: you can use this python script https://github.com/BitMEX/easy-data-scripts/blob/master/fetchTradeHistory.py
[2017-01-18 11:02:45] muirtastic : Thanks but I don't know how to run a script
[2017-01-18 11:03:04] muirtastic : I must have 40 or 50 pages of trade history though so this is absurd having to download them one screen at a time
[2017-01-18 11:05:01] ResQue_ : doesnt bitmex have an API you can use?
[2017-01-18 11:05:32] MikeHunt : muirtastic: you on windows or linux?
[2017-01-18 11:05:40] muirtastic : Wndows
[2017-01-18 11:05:49] MikeHunt : muirtastic: setup linux in a virtual machine
[2017-01-18 11:05:56] MikeHunt : muirtastic: then it will run natively
[2017-01-18 11:06:29] muirtastic : Thanks but that sounds like way too much work. I'll just have to download it page by page I guess
[2017-01-18 11:09:52] MikeHunt : a save all button would be helpful thou if any bitmex admin is listening
[2017-01-18 11:19:12] internetexplorer : where this btc going?
[2017-01-18 11:19:14] internetexplorer : moon or what
[2017-01-18 11:19:29] bienio : im new here need help
[2017-01-18 11:19:42] internetexplorer : bienio: what's the issue?
[2017-01-18 11:19:52] bienio : i want ask here is auto trade opotion with signals?
[2017-01-18 11:20:16] bienio : or only manual trade?
[2017-01-18 11:21:39] bienio : any one can explain how to trade without lose
[2017-01-18 11:21:48] bienio : this signals ar week here
[2017-01-18 11:21:55] narnarfromnarnia : just use 100x
[2017-01-18 11:22:04] narnarfromnarnia : will get strong signal
[2017-01-18 11:22:21] internetexplorer : yes 100x is the way to go
[2017-01-18 11:22:23] bienio : if is read them sale
[2017-01-18 11:22:27] bienio : if green buy?
[2017-01-18 11:22:33] internetexplorer : yes
[2017-01-18 11:22:49] narnarfromnarnia : sell bottom buy top
[2017-01-18 11:23:16] internetexplorer : you new to trading @bienio ?
[2017-01-18 11:23:32] bienio : how is minimum to deposit to start and be safe?
[2017-01-18 11:23:51] bienio : i use fores but in btc yes is new thing
[2017-01-18 11:24:00] bienio : in chere no chart.to read
[2017-01-18 11:24:07] bienio : this is way im warried
[2017-01-18 11:24:19] internetexplorer : i dont think it's a minimum deposit amount
[2017-01-18 11:24:20] bienio : forex
[2017-01-18 11:24:36] bienio : but for start to chec how is works
[2017-01-18 11:24:51] bienio : be enoug to cash in 0.0001 btc?
[2017-01-18 11:24:53] internetexplorer : https://testnet.bitmex.com/login @bienio
[2017-01-18 11:25:08] internetexplorer : make an account here first to learn how this thing works
[2017-01-18 11:26:03] dodic : "just use 100x will get strong signal" really living up to the "trollbox" name
[2017-01-18 11:27:21] bienio : ok thanks i will learn ther and check what i know from forex trading ;)
[2017-01-18 11:27:37] internetexplorer : you have to deposit money
[2017-01-18 11:27:45] internetexplorer : but you will not lose it
[2017-01-18 11:27:50] internetexplorer : something like that
[2017-01-18 11:33:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1000 @ 894.43
[2017-01-18 11:33:52] abbey : woohaa!
[2017-01-18 11:34:06] bingbongfly : wow thousand contracts?! x)
[2017-01-18 11:34:16] bingbongfly : let's move this pussy up
[2017-01-18 11:36:43] narnarfromnarnia : closed my long too soon
[2017-01-18 11:40:00] internetexplorer : short time
[2017-01-18 12:00:43] ayy_lmao : exchange suspended?
[2017-01-18 12:02:02] jiji : ???
[2017-01-18 12:02:10] abbey : ayy_lmao: ?
[2017-01-18 12:02:39] ayy_lmao : submit an order and tell me if it goes through
[2017-01-18 12:03:05] jiji : same here
[2017-01-18 12:03:10] jiji : since funding
[2017-01-18 12:03:14] ayy_lmao : yeah
[2017-01-18 12:03:18] jiji : 3.5min ago
[2017-01-18 12:03:26] XBT_Saver : same here
[2017-01-18 12:03:28] aili : you are all doomed))
[2017-01-18 12:03:54] ayy_lmao : we good
[2017-01-18 12:03:55] ayy_lmao : back
[2017-01-18 12:04:42] BitMEX_Wally : Trading has been resumed
[2017-01-18 12:04:59] narnarfromnarnia : trading was paused?
[2017-01-18 12:06:09] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: only during that 1 second where funding gets applied
[2017-01-18 12:06:23] narnarfromnarnia : ah ok
[2017-01-18 12:06:32] narnarfromnarnia : so we get paid to be long now
[2017-01-18 12:09:38] BTC-Noob : is the funding rate calculated on the notional value of my position or just collateral placed?
[2017-01-18 12:10:17] XBT_IHCT : BTC-Noob: the notional value
[2017-01-18 12:15:55] l3f : BTC-Noob: notional value
[2017-01-18 12:16:20] l3f : Who are these massive shorts
[2017-01-18 12:16:23] l3f : I'm getting paid to long
[2017-01-18 12:16:26] l3f : like wtf
[2017-01-18 12:16:44] l3f : -ve premium on quarterlies
[2017-01-18 12:16:48] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: you were saying its gonna dump earlier
[2017-01-18 12:16:50] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-18 12:16:58] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: Well it didn't
[2017-01-18 12:17:01] l3f : which is a shame
[2017-01-18 12:17:19] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/v5Rprcss/
[2017-01-18 12:17:20] l3f : It did reach the neck line (sort of) but it didn't touch it
[2017-01-18 12:17:54] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: anyways I didn't short I just had bids down to 820s
[2017-01-18 12:18:20] narnarfromnarnia : it can still head there today
[2017-01-18 12:18:27] narnarfromnarnia : daily has room for that i think
[2017-01-18 12:18:41] l3f : settlement is tomorrow
[2017-01-18 12:18:44] l3f : on okc
[2017-01-18 12:18:49] l3f : gt ready for some fuckery
[2017-01-18 12:18:50] narnarfromnarnia : what's that?
[2017-01-18 12:18:56] l3f : weekly futures
[2017-01-18 12:18:58] narnarfromnarnia : you mean margin stuff?
[2017-01-18 12:19:04] narnarfromnarnia : oh
[2017-01-18 12:20:28] narnarfromnarnia : 1h https://www.tradingview.com/x/wynEhGou/
[2017-01-18 12:20:41] l3f : 1h looks fine
[2017-01-18 12:20:44] l3f : I was hoping for another shakeout
[2017-01-18 12:22:09] narnarfromnarnia : maybe 860's
[2017-01-18 12:22:12] narnarfromnarnia : 4hr
[2017-01-18 12:23:02] l3f : narnarfromnarnia: my bids are ready
[2017-01-18 12:23:19] narnarfromnarnia : you were thinking 830's?
[2017-01-18 12:23:24] l3f : 820s
[2017-01-18 12:23:27] narnarfromnarnia : oh
[2017-01-18 12:23:28] narnarfromnarnia : hmm
[2017-01-18 12:23:39] l3f : assuming "H&S" was real
[2017-01-18 12:23:41] narnarfromnarnia : yeah 860 would get hit too quick
[2017-01-18 12:23:49] narnarfromnarnia : it's real
[2017-01-18 12:23:56] narnarfromnarnia : ish
[2017-01-18 12:24:07] narnarfromnarnia : slow motion too
[2017-01-18 12:24:49] shiroe : go 10000!
[2017-01-18 12:33:29] MikeHunt : going here? http://i.imgur.com/6O4758r.png
[2017-01-18 12:36:22] lalit2017 : Hi I am new here. How to start?
[2017-01-18 12:37:48] XBT_IHCT : lalit2017: start with 1% of your balance
[2017-01-18 12:38:25] XBT_IHCT : and build up your experience from there
[2017-01-18 12:39:33] XBT_IHCT : then when you get comfortable with how everything works, start using a bit more leverage
[2017-01-18 12:39:47] lalit2017 : Ok thank you
[2017-01-18 12:40:32] XBT_IHCT : lalit2017: or if you want to practice without using your real money, there is a testnet you can use
[2017-01-18 12:41:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5 @ 889.80
[2017-01-18 12:41:26] lalit2017 : Oh there is. I will practice on testnet.
[2017-01-18 12:41:36] lalit2017 : Thank you for help
[2017-01-18 12:43:55] BTCDJS : This is going down to 830
[2017-01-18 12:47:53] lalit2017 : where is testnet?
[2017-01-18 12:49:36] internetexplorer : testnet.bitmex.com
[2017-01-18 12:51:07] l3f : I thought it was start with 100x leverage
[2017-01-18 12:51:09] l3f : then get liquidated
[2017-01-18 12:51:30] l3f : then beg for donations
[2017-01-18 12:52:09] internetexplorer : =)))
[2017-01-18 12:52:13] lalit2017 : thanx
[2017-01-18 12:55:52] l3f : I think once you're here long enough you turn into a bitter old man like sleger and rapidlosses
[2017-01-18 12:56:07] l3f : and all you got was all these buttcoins as compensation
[2017-01-18 12:56:43] abbey : that is not proper h&s pattern guys, the neck is not ok. start your engines quick, you don't want to miss this one
[2017-01-18 12:57:57] l3f : abbey: whale decided not to dump
[2017-01-18 12:58:30] l3f : hopefully I can get some dips
[2017-01-18 12:58:34] l3f : I'm long
[2017-01-18 13:01:31] abbey : me too, i had one order waiting @876.5, it went close.
[2017-01-18 13:03:12] MikeHunt : we need to hit ~6450 to complete the cup/saucepan
[2017-01-18 13:03:20] MikeHunt : if whale dump now then whole thing might collapse
[2017-01-18 13:03:22] MikeHunt : not more bull
[2017-01-18 13:03:35] abbey : I have also long orders waiting at 860s and 840s
[2017-01-18 13:05:29] abbey : had also $830, but don't believe that anymore
[2017-01-18 13:07:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4000 @ 888.18
[2017-01-18 13:07:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 29000 @ 879.17
[2017-01-18 13:08:28] abbey : oops
[2017-01-18 13:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 885.53
[2017-01-18 13:09:34] narnarfromnarnia : dang i closed out my short too soon
[2017-01-18 13:09:44] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: do u have a blog? If not u should get one, Nice to read analysis! Even if youre not a super pro, still interesting
[2017-01-18 13:10:03] abbey : hope your engines are running ... just in case.
[2017-01-18 13:11:35] aethlios : BTCDJS: hello, what do you think about the market. bulls have to keep 840 march to stay alive
[2017-01-18 13:11:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2800 @ 883.62
[2017-01-18 13:14:51] BTCDJS : aethlios: I think it will go to 950-980 but slowly with a few retraces
[2017-01-18 13:15:21] BTCDJS : i think people are waiting for PBoCnews
[2017-01-18 13:15:39] BTCDJS : but they want to go up
[2017-01-18 13:16:11] BTCDJS : after every big dump bitcoin always retraces 50-60%
[2017-01-18 13:16:30] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: maybe i could do that steemit thing that noganoo keeps going on about
[2017-01-18 13:17:16] BTCDJS : aethlios: 830 is support. That is where I have my long
[2017-01-18 13:17:44] BTCDJS : Order
[2017-01-18 13:18:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 800 @ 6019.9
[2017-01-18 13:18:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 16000 @ 6005.4
[2017-01-18 13:19:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 20000 @ 872.91
[2017-01-18 13:19:02] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: steemit is a ponzi, good luck x)
[2017-01-18 13:19:08] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2017-01-18 13:19:08] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 883.10
[2017-01-18 13:19:30] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558366.0
[2017-01-18 13:19:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 878.40
[2017-01-18 13:19:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 66 @ 879.61
[2017-01-18 13:19:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 878.31 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-18 13:19:39] bingbongfly : I mean it's great if you are the founder or get in early, but be careful
[2017-01-18 13:20:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1267 @ 874.25
[2017-01-18 13:20:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 174157 @ 874.25 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-18 13:20:29] MikeHunt : bingbongfly: seems profitable for time being, long the ponzi? ;)
[2017-01-18 13:20:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 80 @ 872.38
[2017-01-18 13:20:54] VenCap : WTF why such dumping here crazy
[2017-01-18 13:21:04] MikeHunt : i might just setup up a wordpress blog
[2017-01-18 13:21:26] MikeHunt : VenCap: this place is always very volatile, okc sneezes, bitmex catches a cold
[2017-01-18 13:21:28] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: yeah It can work absolutely! Just saying be careful since it's an obvious pyramid scheme :p
[2017-01-18 13:21:28] BTCDJS : aethlios: we bounced above the 200 EMA on 1D chart. If we break that I think we will have a bear market.
[2017-01-18 13:21:56] VenCap : mental
[2017-01-18 13:22:06] MikeHunt : bingbongfly: yeh i heard noganoo uses bots to get free money as well, cant last forever
[2017-01-18 13:22:28] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: yup
[2017-01-18 13:22:29] aethlios : BTCDJS: around 715, yes this is what i fear, could go back to 200, retrace all bull move from summer 15
[2017-01-18 13:22:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 40000 @ 5893.4
[2017-01-18 13:22:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 999 @ 872.03
[2017-01-18 13:22:47] bingbongfly : BTCDJS: Hm I think unless we break 4k CNY the uptrend is still intact
[2017-01-18 13:23:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 50 @ 855.65
[2017-01-18 13:23:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 200 @ 855.88
[2017-01-18 13:23:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1237 @ 870.37
[2017-01-18 13:24:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 9000 @ 869.31
[2017-01-18 13:24:28] BTCDJS : My guess is we range again and go sideways accumulation over many weeks then have another bull rally and break ATH
[2017-01-18 13:25:00] Kalman : BTCDJS: certainly
[2017-01-18 13:25:57] BTCDJS : Got to remember bitcoin fundamentals are good. Lightning, segwit, etc are all going to keep bitcoin growing
[2017-01-18 13:26:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 868.03 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-18 13:26:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 866.19
[2017-01-18 13:26:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 866.28
[2017-01-18 13:26:44] BTCDJS : only very bad news will bring a bear market. To me PBoC is not that bad
[2017-01-18 13:26:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 500 @ 851.73
[2017-01-18 13:26:56] Kalman : BTCDJS: its not the fundamentals that make buy/sell decisions ;)
[2017-01-18 13:26:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 863.37 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-18 13:26:58] Derreck : 5900 is hodling.. for now
[2017-01-18 13:27:38] birdie numn : no news or rumors? just a dump?
[2017-01-18 13:27:45] Kalman : thats in the department of overleveraged ..
[2017-01-18 13:27:53] moo : scam!
[2017-01-18 13:28:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 1 @ 5866.1 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-18 13:28:44] bingbongfly : BTCDJS: agreed, we had three years of bearmarket already. Only a bug or something of equal caliber can set off a new bear market
[2017-01-18 13:29:00] BTCDJS : Kalman: sure. More and more people are coming into bitcoin. It's going to grow rapidly. But the implementations of segwit and lighting and the next thing keep people excited for the future of bitcoin do they know they are investing well
[2017-01-18 13:29:27] moo : dont get scammed! BTC is DONE
[2017-01-18 13:29:54] BTCDJS : moo: KEEP CALM AND BUY BITCOIN
[2017-01-18 13:30:09] Kalman : BTCDJS: its a good exercise to find some arguments against to keep the feed on the ground
[2017-01-18 13:30:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 180 @ 860.38
[2017-01-18 13:30:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5004 @ 860.86
[2017-01-18 13:30:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 1 @ 5837.8 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-18 13:31:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 7 @ 5849.3
[2017-01-18 13:31:10] Kalman : any adls yet?
[2017-01-18 13:31:16] bingbongfly : "Liquidated short on XBCH17: buy 1 @ 5837.8 ? ?" haha rip that gotta hurt x)
[2017-01-18 13:31:26] BTCDJS : Kalman: I did do that too lol I went on the web looking for videos and other material that points out all the bad things about bitcoin. Nothing concrete was found
[2017-01-18 13:31:41] BTCDJS : Just opinions
[2017-01-18 13:32:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 3 @ 5847.9 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-18 13:33:26] l3f : Heh
[2017-01-18 13:33:29] l3f : told ya whale was going for it
[2017-01-18 13:33:45] Ahhere : Cheap coinz?
[2017-01-18 13:34:05] Ahhere : :/
[2017-01-18 13:34:25] Ahhere : loving this volatility mind