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[2015-11-06 04:49:50] dorothy490 : Sorry from mobile hope you will figure out typos
[2015-11-06 04:55:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : dorothy490: Yes that makes sense to me. I think Unrealized PNL would be better calculated based on profit if one was to to market buy/sell into the orderbook
[2015-11-06 04:55:57] dorothy490 : Btw this site shows wrong data http://getjumbucks.com/settlement/
[2015-11-06 04:56:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : dorothy490: That's something you could write a script to compute too. If I get something simple working in Python would you be interested?
[2015-11-06 04:56:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : You could put in your credentials and it would tell you PNL based on the orderbook for the open position
[2015-11-06 04:57:38] billyboy402 : any admin online
[2015-11-06 04:58:39] BitMEX_Arthur : billyboy402: How can we help
[2015-11-06 04:59:05] billyboy402 : hey mate , i made a trade about 3 hours ago and close it , but i cant see in in my history
[2015-11-06 04:59:43] billyboy402 : sold daily at 375 and close 365 . just wondering where i go to see it , order history doesnt show it
[2015-11-06 05:00:21] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: Trade history is here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2015-11-06 05:00:41] BitMEX_Wally : (Under `Account / Wallet` on the sidebar)
[2015-11-06 05:01:33] billyboy402 : oh i see now
[2015-11-06 05:02:17] billyboy402 : any way to remove cancel order , most my page are cancel order lol
[2015-11-06 05:04:01] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: Which tab are you seeing the cancelled orders in?
[2015-11-06 05:04:21] germanjew : There is a button with a green tick on it
[2015-11-06 05:04:46] billyboy402 : in the order history , i dont think you need or care about canceled orders
[2015-11-06 05:04:49] BitMEX_Wally : Under `Active Orders` you can tick the green tick to clear canceled doers
[2015-11-06 05:05:16] BitMEX_Wally : I think cancelled orders are important for Order History , because otherwise you can just look at trade history for fills
[2015-11-06 05:05:46] germanjew : I noticed that cancelling an order is slightly delayed (for me atleast)
[2015-11-06 05:11:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : germanjew: Probably has to do with your connection
[2015-11-06 05:12:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Or browser even
[2015-11-06 05:12:42] germanjew : well, everything else seems fast, it is only when cancelling orders that there is a slight lag
[2015-11-06 05:13:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : germanjew: My only other thought is it's lag on the server telling you the order has been canceled, not it actually happening
[2015-11-06 05:13:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : You might ask @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-06 05:13:59] BitMEX_Wally : Yes the order will be canceled as soon as we get the message
[2015-11-06 05:14:33] germanjew : kk thanks. It doesn't normally bother me, however when the market is going crazy it does add a little bit of stress :)
[2015-11-06 05:14:45] BitMEX_Wally : Might be a lag in processing the web socket update locally
[2015-11-06 05:15:45] coolcatgee : whats with all the small orders in the book, its blocking our view
[2015-11-06 05:17:04] BitMEX_Wally : Just playing round
[2015-11-06 05:17:50] BitMEX_Wally : He might not know how small 5 contracts really is...
[2015-11-06 05:18:53] coolcatgee : i think it could be used as a technique to hide the market depth
[2015-11-06 05:19:05] coolcatgee : if he does that at every penny in both directions
[2015-11-06 05:19:21] BitMEX_Wally : If you are on the Advanced layout you can expand the order book
[2015-11-06 05:19:25] BitMEX_Wally : See all the levels
[2015-11-06 05:20:03] coolcatgee : i expanded it and at the time it when across both the ask and bid ... I had orders in that weren't showing
[2015-11-06 05:20:16] ayy lmao : be nice if basic UI had a chart and order controls together without needing to toggle
[2015-11-06 05:20:18] BitMEX_Wally : Ahh, I think it's limited to 25
[2015-11-06 05:20:26] coolcatgee : yea 25 deep
[2015-11-06 05:20:27] BitMEX_Wally : ayy lmao: Switch to Advanced mode
[2015-11-06 05:20:41] BitMEX_Wally : Under `Options` top right
[2015-11-06 05:20:47] BitMEX_Wally : `Dashboard Layout: Advanced`
[2015-11-06 05:20:49] ayy lmao : bitmex_Wally, i have been using it but I like the simplicity of basic
[2015-11-06 05:21:06] SnackyCoins : #addictedtoadvanced
[2015-11-06 05:21:18] germanjew : /me getting used to advanced order book
[2015-11-06 05:22:04] coolcatgee : maybe you can do nested order ranges in the expanded view like a range so we can drill down the order book to any level
[2015-11-06 05:22:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : germanjew: What's the deal with the advanced orderbook even? It appears to only show one side
[2015-11-06 05:23:05] coolcatgee : so like all bids between 360-365 can be in one line if they total less than 5000 contracts
[2015-11-06 05:23:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ohh I see now
[2015-11-06 05:23:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : nvm
[2015-11-06 05:23:15] germanjew : there are separate bid and ask colms
[2015-11-06 05:23:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That's weird
[2015-11-06 05:23:21] germanjew : yes, it is quite different
[2015-11-06 05:23:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Shows more though, which is nice
[2015-11-06 05:24:23] SnackyCoins : it's still colored lol
[2015-11-06 05:24:40] SnackyCoins : the margin details are sweet, too
[2015-11-06 05:24:48] coolcatgee : it wouldn't be a problem if we all had bots, but if I'm manually trading i want to edge out my other bidder, where the order depth drops
[2015-11-06 05:25:14] billyboy402 : i dont like the advance orderbook , i font like the price in the middle , they need to be bold or some thing , look like a bingo sheet
[2015-11-06 05:25:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It would be awesome if the dashboard were customizable. You could select whether you wanted the advanced or simple view per widget, or hide it all together, then rearrange things
[2015-11-06 05:25:14] germanjew : yes, being able to see more is better for me, I will just have to get used to it. It is a very clever way of using space
[2015-11-06 05:25:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Maybe I'll just create my own UI
[2015-11-06 05:26:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : About ready to short this hard if it doesn't break upward
[2015-11-06 05:27:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If the price were still high enough I could make a 404: Buyers not found joke
[2015-11-06 05:28:09] coolcatgee : lol, i still laughed
[2015-11-06 05:29:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : :) Will be interesting to see what happens when OKCoin futures settle
[2015-11-06 05:30:08] laisee : pls don' short ETH, I am long 42 contracts and in profit on settle day.
[2015-11-06 05:30:40] SnackyCoins : it doesnt matter laisee, it will settle to index price
[2015-11-06 05:31:02] SnackyCoins : i could dump on you and i would lose :)
[2015-11-06 05:31:52] laisee : but .. but ... doesn't futures drive cash market?
[2015-11-06 05:32:55] SnackyCoins : not likely in eth
[2015-11-06 05:32:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Of course right when I open a short. 200 buyers found
[2015-11-06 05:33:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Check this out: &btc;
[2015-11-06 05:34:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : <b>bold</b> and <i>italic</i>
[2015-11-06 05:34:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : <strike>scratch that</strike>
[2015-11-06 05:35:01] laisee : cool. how 2 do that?
[2015-11-06 05:35:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hover over the text field and it will tell you :)
[2015-11-06 05:36:13] Scottv53 : &btc
[2015-11-06 05:36:21] BitMEX_Wally : Don't forget the ;
[2015-11-06 05:36:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : My favorite is `&btc;` for &btc;
[2015-11-06 05:36:26] laisee : <b>BOSS</b>
[2015-11-06 05:36:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : whoops that didn't work
[2015-11-06 05:36:39] BitMEX_Wally : `& b t c ;`
[2015-11-06 05:36:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : <code>&btc;</code>
[2015-11-06 05:36:42] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-11-06 05:36:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Shouldn't it not reformat in the code blocks?
[2015-11-06 05:36:53] laisee : <b>cool as</b>;
[2015-11-06 05:37:03] BitMEX_Wally : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yeah the regex is a bit too keen
[2015-11-06 05:37:06] BitMEX_Wally : :bitcoin:
[2015-11-06 05:37:14] BitMEX_Wally : It stops you using some naughty words
[2015-11-06 05:37:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I noticed that. Words like fuck
[2015-11-06 05:37:40] Scottv53 : &btc;
[2015-11-06 05:37:47] BitMEX_Wally : And OKCoin
[2015-11-06 05:37:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : so funny when people trigger that in random conversation
[2015-11-06 05:38:00] BitMEX_Wally : Fuck OKCOIN
[2015-11-06 05:38:07] BitMEX_Wally : FUCK
[2015-11-06 05:38:12] BitMEX_Wally : Hah I like the case preservation
[2015-11-06 05:38:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : When people paste O K C o i n links and they're broke by OKCoin
[2015-11-06 05:38:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *broken
[2015-11-06 05:38:23] Scottv53 : &btc:;ravo!
[2015-11-06 05:38:32] abc123 : KCUF
[2015-11-06 05:38:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : &btc;ravo!
[2015-11-06 05:38:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : In gold: `&btc;`ravo!
[2015-11-06 05:39:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : `moolah`
[2015-11-06 05:39:32] Scottv53 : &btc;ravo
[2015-11-06 05:39:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Be on alert for price breaking downtrend
[2015-11-06 05:39:58] silverswordfish : how do i make some money on this thing
[2015-11-06 05:40:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Have a line from 2750 that's close to being broken
[2015-11-06 05:40:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Either that or another dump
[2015-11-06 05:40:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I shouldn't give trading advice until I make back my losses :p
[2015-11-06 05:41:11] silverswordfish : i hope you havent lost 2g today becuase i have
[2015-11-06 05:42:00] SnackyCoins : wow
[2015-11-06 05:42:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : silverswordfish: Ouch!
[2015-11-06 05:42:05] SnackyCoins : playing big hands eh?
[2015-11-06 05:42:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm down 1.17 BTC. Recovered from losing 2
[2015-11-06 05:42:52] SnackyCoins : maybe you should reduce your order sizing until you figure it out :)
[2015-11-06 05:43:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I got that figured out now, but if you directed that at @silverswordfish that's solid advice haha 2g is ridiculous
[2015-11-06 05:43:41] SnackyCoins : heh yeah i meant it his way
[2015-11-06 05:43:57] micmix : depends on his trading capital, 2g might be very little
[2015-11-06 05:44:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix: Fair point
[2015-11-06 05:44:58] SnackyCoins : anyway "buy low, sell high" and all that
[2015-11-06 05:45:14] cekseh : "dont lose money, make money"
[2015-11-06 05:45:16] silverswordfish : Any opinions on what will happen after the gov auction
[2015-11-06 05:45:27] SnackyCoins : yes: nothing
[2015-11-06 05:45:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I like the buy low, sell high, buy higher, sell even higher, get eaten alive by fees option
[2015-11-06 05:45:31] cekseh : irrelevant
[2015-11-06 05:45:42] laisee : &#128520;
[2015-11-06 05:46:32] SnackyCoins : nothing wrong with buy higher, sell even higher :) as long as they are on the right side of each other
[2015-11-06 05:47:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : One filter I need: All fucking emoji to ?
[2015-11-06 05:47:21] laisee : going o change my account name to 'geatestfule'
[2015-11-06 05:47:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-06 05:47:48] SnackyCoins : i learned something this pump. I was fretting a bit about my bitcoin stack. long term cold storage and all that.. had to sell a bunch to pay bills. Concerned I would have to buy back in after $2000 was the new $200.
[2015-11-06 05:47:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 'EyeCahnSpel?'
[2015-11-06 05:48:04] SnackyCoins : then i realized it doesn't matter as long as it's still volatile up there.
[2015-11-06 05:48:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Volatile enough for trading you mean?
[2015-11-06 05:48:46] SnackyCoins : yeah
[2015-11-06 05:48:54] laisee : yeah, its volatile asset indeed
[2015-11-06 05:49:15] laisee : becaos of buyers ... &#127754;
[2015-11-06 05:49:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @OKCoin, please fuck me one more time
[2015-11-06 05:49:37] SnackyCoins : my profits will just come in the form of $2000 btcs instead of $200 btcs, and i'll likely just be earning less of them, but i won't have missed out because i didn't hoard enough before moon.
[2015-11-06 05:50:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Good point. I was thinking about that earlier and I'd like to think about it some more at $2000
[2015-11-06 05:50:36] laisee : I have hodl BTC and play BTC.
[2015-11-06 05:51:28] laisee : and ETH for trading fun
[2015-11-06 05:52:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Where did the market maker bot go?
[2015-11-06 05:52:29] laisee : &#127773;
[2015-11-06 05:52:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : '<bold>No liquidity alert!</bold>'
[2015-11-06 05:52:52] cekseh : ran out of equity
[2015-11-06 05:52:55] cekseh : doh!
[2015-11-06 05:53:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : <bold>'test'</bold>
[2015-11-06 05:53:12] coolcatgee : there that bot goes again blinding the book
[2015-11-06 05:53:14] SnackyCoins : all exchanges candles show a lack of liquidity after we hit 460 on the way up
[2015-11-06 05:53:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm screwed now :p
[2015-11-06 05:53:32] SnackyCoins : go to like the 5 minute okc, houbi and look at all the gaps
[2015-11-06 05:53:39] SnackyCoins : 5minute back at the top
[2015-11-06 05:53:44] SnackyCoins : gap city
[2015-11-06 05:53:50] SnackyCoins : even on larger timeframes
[2015-11-06 05:53:56] laisee : sell some DOGE, iChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2015-11-06 05:54:08] SnackyCoins : that+huge price swings = no liquidity
[2015-11-06 05:55:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm screwed if this goes up. No liquidity to close my short!
[2015-11-06 05:56:23] SnackyCoins : welp. that is part of the game
[2015-11-06 05:56:26] laisee : &#127906;
[2015-11-06 05:56:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : There goes 0.1 &btc; :(
[2015-11-06 05:56:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : And in 5 minutes I'll probably wish I had held it
[2015-11-06 05:57:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm done with this until the liquidity returns
[2015-11-06 05:57:27] SnackyCoins : i'm short too
[2015-11-06 05:57:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Best of luck
[2015-11-06 05:57:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I shouldn't have panicked like I did
[2015-11-06 05:57:50] SnackyCoins : i'm not that worried about it
[2015-11-06 05:57:52] SnackyCoins : did you close?
[2015-11-06 05:58:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Yep. Bought up above my entry to get out of it quickly when I say it going up. I'm going to wait for a clear direction/more liquidity before taking a position
[2015-11-06 05:58:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *saw it going up
[2015-11-06 05:59:01] BitMEX_Wally : Laughing and sniggering
[2015-11-06 05:59:06] BitMEX_Wally : Haha
[2015-11-06 05:59:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Haha
[2015-11-06 05:59:18] SnackyCoins : well if you don't know where it's going then being out of a position is smart :)
[2015-11-06 05:59:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Where is the market maker? This is terrible
[2015-11-06 05:59:46] SnackyCoins : you can place limit orders too you know
[2015-11-06 06:00:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I did but they weren't being taken and the price was drifting up
[2015-11-06 06:00:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I know... panic is a bad idea
[2015-11-06 06:00:24] SnackyCoins : yeah x)
[2015-11-06 06:00:41] SnackyCoins : i'm hodling my short, want to see why?
[2015-11-06 06:01:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Look at that buy volume on Finex. Still want to hold?
[2015-11-06 06:01:15] cekseh : hodl*
[2015-11-06 06:01:20] SnackyCoins : yes. there's shit for volume
[2015-11-06 06:01:36] SnackyCoins : ok first let me ask you a question: do the majority of people who trade markets win, or lose?
[2015-11-06 06:01:37] cekseh : I don't even want to get into position when the book is like this, I just closed out
[2015-11-06 06:01:45] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-06 06:01:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Your call!
[2015-11-06 06:02:01] SnackyCoins : the majority loses :)
[2015-11-06 06:02:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Finex making a break for it
[2015-11-06 06:02:14] SnackyCoins : ok so with that in mind
[2015-11-06 06:02:28] SnackyCoins : let me show you some data (have to use another exchange since this is not published here yet) https://goo.gl/TpmEac
[2015-11-06 06:02:35] SnackyCoins : look at the bottom chart
[2015-11-06 06:02:40] SnackyCoins : is the majority long or shot
[2015-11-06 06:02:43] SnackyCoins : short*
[2015-11-06 06:03:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Short. Doesn't mean they're all right
[2015-11-06 06:03:25] SnackyCoins : i think you are reading that wrong 8) bottom chart?
[2015-11-06 06:03:27] micmix : SnackyCoins: the futures markets are zero sum game except the fees to the exchange
[2015-11-06 06:03:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hey the bot's back! We missed you market maker
[2015-11-06 06:03:41] BitMEX_Wally : The bots were always there
[2015-11-06 06:03:49] BitMEX_Wally : Those little orders were canceled
[2015-11-06 06:04:05] SnackyCoins : 37.38% long, 27.16% short is what the chart says
[2015-11-06 06:04:10] SnackyCoins : the majority is long
[2015-11-06 06:04:26] SnackyCoins : and settlement on the woodchipper is in 2 hours
[2015-11-06 06:04:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I see your point. Good luck on your trade!
[2015-11-06 06:05:02] laisee : so ... 'Don't Know' is 64%?
[2015-11-06 06:05:02] SnackyCoins : :) ty
[2015-11-06 06:05:19] SnackyCoins : so the bar chart is top trader margin used
[2015-11-06 06:05:33] SnackyCoins : it takes the top 100 traders and shows you what they are doing with their margin
[2015-11-06 06:05:59] SnackyCoins : basically it shows you how much each "team" is using up it's fuel
[2015-11-06 06:06:08] SnackyCoins : right now the longs have used up a lot of fuel
[2015-11-06 06:06:13] SnackyCoins : and the price is dropping overall
[2015-11-06 06:06:32] SnackyCoins : meanwhile shorts have hardly begun to use any
[2015-11-06 06:06:42] laisee : its likely in wild west market for some last minute abuse of market to intfluence setle price
[2015-11-06 06:06:50] SnackyCoins : longs are blowing their load trying to rescue price and it's -not helping-
[2015-11-06 06:07:05] SnackyCoins : you saw the exact opposite case the whooole way up
[2015-11-06 06:07:23] SnackyCoins : at 400-500 we began to shift
[2015-11-06 06:07:34] SnackyCoins : now the majority of people are buying the dip
[2015-11-06 06:07:38] SnackyCoins : but the majority of people can't win
[2015-11-06 06:08:12] SnackyCoins : you cant go to the moon with all these people hanging off the side like a train in india
[2015-11-06 06:08:20] SnackyCoins : it's too expensive
[2015-11-06 06:08:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Thx whoever just bought my long
[2015-11-06 06:09:19] SnackyCoins : welp 8)
[2015-11-06 06:09:22] SnackyCoins : lenny time i guess
[2015-11-06 06:09:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lenny time?
[2015-11-06 06:09:54] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/1pBTW3n.gif
[2015-11-06 06:10:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Should have held on to it. Too big a position though
[2015-11-06 06:11:30] SnackyCoins : if you're nervous about your position then getting out of it until it's small enough to where you're not is the smart thing to do
[2015-11-06 06:12:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: True. I've been managing position sizes a lot better since losing 2 BTC being stupid
[2015-11-06 06:12:24] SnackyCoins : thats how i learned too 8)
[2015-11-06 06:12:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha
[2015-11-06 06:12:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : China wants up and there's 0 volume on finex...
[2015-11-06 06:13:17] SnackyCoins : there's lies, damn lies, and chinese bitcoin exchange volumes
[2015-11-06 06:13:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I agree with you, but there's a difference between reacting to other exchanges and not moving at all
[2015-11-06 06:16:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hey it moved. Wow
[2015-11-06 06:19:44] brickjenks100 : how long does it take for a deposit to become available?
[2015-11-06 06:19:59] silverswordfish : 5 mm ins or so
[2015-11-06 06:20:19] brickjenks100 : thanks
[2015-11-06 06:20:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : brickjenks100: 1 confirmation
[2015-11-06 06:20:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin
[2015-11-06 06:20:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Last block was 36 min ago
[2015-11-06 06:21:08] SnackyCoins : yeesh
[2015-11-06 06:21:20] SnackyCoins : and thats on top of it's being fucked up for days
[2015-11-06 06:21:29] SnackyCoins : lol goddamnit wordfilter
[2015-11-06 06:21:38] SnackyCoins : #rekt
[2015-11-06 06:22:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-06 06:22:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I've had every transaction of mine go through in the next block with reasonable fees
[2015-11-06 06:23:26] SnackyCoins : me too, until this week
[2015-11-06 06:23:40] SnackyCoins : i had a normal fee tx take 48h to confirm
[2015-11-06 06:24:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ouch. That's bad
[2015-11-06 06:24:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : What was the fee?
[2015-11-06 06:24:17] SnackyCoins : 0.0001
[2015-11-06 06:24:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Was it a larger transaction? That's what I've been using without trouble
[2015-11-06 06:24:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : larger in terms of bytes
[2015-11-06 06:24:50] SnackyCoins : nah 1 in 2 outs iirc
[2015-11-06 06:25:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Strange
[2015-11-06 06:25:11] SnackyCoins : the blockchain was JAMMED you got lucky
[2015-11-06 06:25:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I might have just gotten in at the right time
[2015-11-06 06:25:31] SnackyCoins : tx's are through the roof
[2015-11-06 06:25:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcArnepkhv0
[2015-11-06 06:26:37] SnackyCoins : lol exactly
[2015-11-06 06:27:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha this is a great clip
[2015-11-06 06:27:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I should watch the movie again
[2015-11-06 06:41:40] billyboy402 : why are my order getting Rejected ,. but my poistion has disapeard
[2015-11-06 06:42:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : billyboy402: No idea. Never seen the rejected order issue
[2015-11-06 06:43:03] BitMEX_Wally : billyboy402: Check your trade history: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2015-11-06 06:43:08] BitMEX_Wally : You might have been liquidated?
[2015-11-06 06:44:17] billyboy402 : oh yea liquidation . kinda strange . only had 16,000 short and still got 7 BTC
[2015-11-06 06:45:07] laisee : sometimes I have price/qty set in order control bu clicking on "Sell"" does nothing. Is that same scenario?
[2015-11-06 06:46:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : billyboy402: Probably on Isolated Instead of cross margin. Lucky for you that saved your hide
[2015-11-06 06:46:29] laisee : perhaps network issue.
[2015-11-06 06:46:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Always quick for me. Must be a network thing
[2015-11-06 06:47:06] laisee : yep, most likely.
[2015-11-06 06:47:25] billyboy402 : yea . only loset 0.3 BTC that good , but just wondering why it happen
[2015-11-06 06:48:16] BitMEX_Wally : If you have isolate margin enabled then you only lose the margin you put in
[2015-11-06 06:48:21] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. 1% of the gross value
[2015-11-06 07:05:10] ethexio : Any way to have multiple positions open in different directions?
[2015-11-06 07:05:28] SnackyCoins : not on the same contract
[2015-11-06 07:05:37] SnackyCoins : but you can be long 7d and short 24h, for example
[2015-11-06 07:06:09] germanjew : having positions open on the same contract in diff directions does not make sense, hence why they will net
[2015-11-06 07:07:53] ethexio : It could make sense. I've done it on Okcoin weeklies with OK returns. Just a lot to manage.
[2015-11-06 07:08:17] ethexio : Okcoin
[2015-11-06 07:08:25] ethexio : Lol
[2015-11-06 07:08:38] ethexio : Love the auto replace
[2015-11-06 07:08:54] ethexio : OK coin
[2015-11-06 07:09:51] germanjew : as far as I understand, 50 down + 60 up = 10 up
[2015-11-06 07:10:42] ethexio : Depends where placed, and amount.
[2015-11-06 07:10:52] ethexio : You're right though
[2015-11-06 07:13:29] gaoMex : BitMEX_Wally: I got liquated. The execution price in Recent Trades is higher than the execution price in Trade History. Which price is correct?
[2015-11-06 07:17:52] BitMEX_Wally : gaoMex: The price in your trade history is your bankruptPrice
[2015-11-06 07:18:01] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. it was taken over with any remaining equity
[2015-11-06 07:18:06] BitMEX_Wally : Then it was liquidated by the system
[2015-11-06 07:20:03] SnackyCoins : If i was curious what % of open interest I was, I would need to half my position size before comparing it to the open interest right? because my counterparty also has a position opposite mine?
[2015-11-06 07:20:18] gaoMex : So with respect to my balance, I should look at bankruptPrice on trade history? @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-06 07:20:36] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2015-11-06 07:20:55] BitMEX_Wally : SnackyCoins: If you are long 100 then someone is short 100 and the open interest would be 100
[2015-11-06 07:23:18] gaoMex : BitMEX_Wally: So if I had sold manually instead of liquidation, I would have higher balance?
[2015-11-06 07:23:32] BitMEX_Wally : gaoMex: Yes
[2015-11-06 07:23:51] SnackyCoins : I was thinking that would make me half the market, but i guess it is more accurate to say that the two of us in the example share the whole of it equally
[2015-11-06 07:23:53] gaoMex : BitMEX_Wally: OMG! :(
[2015-11-06 07:25:05] gaoMex : BitMEX_Wally: Just curious, who takes over the difference?
[2015-11-06 07:25:14] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: what strategy would you employ to hedge your bitcoins in your wallet whilst trading, against depreciation in absolute terms against the USD?
[2015-11-06 07:26:35] BitMEX_Wally : gaoMex: The difference goes into the system loss fund
[2015-11-06 07:26:59] BitMEX_Wally : In a fast moving market the system can make a loss when liquidating and so any profits offset these losse
[2015-11-06 07:27:03] gaoMex : For DPE?
[2015-11-06 07:27:05] BitMEX_Wally : Yes
[2015-11-06 07:27:15] SnackyCoins : today i learned there's an insurance fund
[2015-11-06 07:27:32] BitMEX_Wally : Scottv53: I would recommend you short XBUZ15 to hedge the dollar value of your Bitcoins
[2015-11-06 07:27:45] gaoMex : Is the value of the fund published?
[2015-11-06 07:27:49] BitMEX_Wally : SnackyCoins: How do you think we've managed to keep the tax rate at 0% this whole time?
[2015-11-06 07:28:38] SnackyCoins : Woodchipper's were getting cleaned up pretty well :) figured that was going on
[2015-11-06 07:29:25] SnackyCoins : Never saw it mentioned on the DPE page, but I havent read it since it was released
[2015-11-06 07:29:54] SnackyCoins : I could just be blind 8)
[2015-11-06 07:53:41] laisee : &#127975;
[2015-11-06 07:58:48] dorothy490 : bids = none
[2015-11-06 08:03:15] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Could you take a screenshot?
[2015-11-06 08:03:18] BitMEX_Wally : I see bids
[2015-11-06 08:06:06] dorothy490 : I was speaking in a methaporic way
[2015-11-06 08:06:21] dorothy490 : last price was like 381 and bids were like 2k to 360
[2015-11-06 08:06:58] silverswordfish : Does anyone think it will go back up past 500?
[2015-11-06 08:10:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : silverswordfish: I think it's a real possibility. Part of that is probably just wishful thinking though
[2015-11-06 08:11:25] silverswordfish : In the next 7 days?
[2015-11-06 08:13:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If it's going to happen I think it will be in the next few days
[2015-11-06 08:13:23] micmix : silverswordfish: I would watch 2500 CNY level, if it stays above it for the weekend there is a good chance we'll go up
[2015-11-06 08:13:52] micmix : not sure about the next 7 days though
[2015-11-06 08:14:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix: This crash was very very fast and I expect any serious retracement to happen pretty much just as quickly
[2015-11-06 08:15:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Who knows if that's going to happen at all though
[2015-11-06 08:15:19] silverswordfish : If it dips to 330 im out, just gotta wait and hope
[2015-11-06 08:16:09] silverswordfish : If it hits 330 im out. Just have to cross my fingers i suppose
[2015-11-06 08:18:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : silverswordfish: Please don't go long on my random thoughts!
[2015-11-06 08:18:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I've lost 1 BTC here
[2015-11-06 08:19:26] silverswordfish : The only choice i have is long.
[2015-11-06 08:20:01] SnackyCoins : why is that
[2015-11-06 08:20:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : silverswordfish: Whatever you say. Please be careful
[2015-11-06 08:20:16] micmix : well Huobi is eating through 1.5k support at 2500, only 600 coins left
[2015-11-06 08:21:11] micmix : and it's gone
[2015-11-06 08:21:41] silverswordfish : I see that
[2015-11-06 08:21:43] micmix : going down some more it seems
[2015-11-06 08:21:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The one minute chart looks so much like the larger rally haha
[2015-11-06 08:22:21] SnackyCoins : #fractals
[2015-11-06 08:23:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : #gentlycaressingfractals
[2015-11-06 08:23:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I wonder if it would actually work like that. I just typed it out
[2015-11-06 08:23:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : #fuckingfractals
[2015-11-06 08:23:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : not quite
[2015-11-06 08:24:11] dorothy490 : lol so funny overrreacting
[2015-11-06 08:26:58] dorothy490 : isolated margin ftw !
[2015-11-06 09:17:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : test
[2015-11-06 09:17:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : &btc;
[2015-11-06 09:23:34] Scottv53 : <happy>;
[2015-11-06 09:24:14] laisee : 10-4
[2015-11-06 09:24:58] Scottv53 : <i>happy;
[2015-11-06 09:29:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : hello
[2015-11-06 09:30:23] laisee : &#128284;
[2015-11-06 09:30:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : What do you think is going to happen @laisee?
[2015-11-06 09:31:46] laisee : settlement ... and loss of hopes and dreams ... ;-)
[2015-11-06 09:32:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha sounds like fun
[2015-11-06 09:33:58] laisee : searching for the emoticon representing seppuku ...
[2015-11-06 09:42:11] Scottv53 : ㉿????
[2015-11-06 09:53:14] MrVisioN : sex
[2015-11-06 09:59:40] laisee : cool.
[2015-11-06 10:19:06] MrVisioN : can i close shorts in this platform?
[2015-11-06 10:23:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : MrVisioN: Yes. You do it by buying a position of the same size
[2015-11-06 10:34:57] habibi : Morning guys
[2015-11-06 10:35:04] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: u still on foot :)?
[2015-11-06 10:35:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: I'm here. What do you mean by on foot?
[2015-11-06 10:37:16] habibi : online/didnt go sleep and so ;p
[2015-11-06 10:39:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: I slept for a bit. Not long though
[2015-11-06 10:39:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : How's it going for you?
[2015-11-06 10:41:02] habibi : quite good after 7 hours sleep, looking atm at chart to predict the future lol
[2015-11-06 10:41:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha best of luck with that
[2015-11-06 10:42:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Be careful you don't get caught trading this chop. It's super low volume and hard to scalp
[2015-11-06 10:43:39] habibi : thats sad :( we need more people here
[2015-11-06 10:44:55] BitMEX_Arthur : Volume is a bit muted due to settlement
[2015-11-06 10:45:07] BitMEX_Arthur : It will improve in an hour
[2015-11-06 10:46:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Arthur: I meant on other exchanges mostly but here as well. Finex flatlined
[2015-11-06 10:46:29] habibi : okcoin futures settles today as well? or tomorrow?
[2015-11-06 10:46:56] ethexio : Already settled I think
[2015-11-06 10:47:05] dorothy490 : what is woodchipper futures?
[2015-11-06 10:47:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin settled 3 hours ago
[2015-11-06 10:47:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : dorothy490: Type OK Coin
[2015-11-06 10:47:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : without the space between them
[2015-11-06 10:47:37] TschavaTschigger : finex is almost dead... had heartattack on wednesday and is now in coma
[2015-11-06 10:48:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha pretty much
[2015-11-06 10:52:05] dorothy490 : okcoin
[2015-11-06 10:55:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm out. Later everybody
[2015-11-06 10:59:38] gaoMex : OKCoin
[2015-11-06 11:03:53] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: see u mate
[2015-11-06 11:07:39] redlose : can someone pls buy my 10k
[2015-11-06 11:10:00] wurstgelee : more sleep in one night than the 3 nights before. feels great. ;)
[2015-11-06 11:10:07] wurstgelee : *more coma actually
[2015-11-06 11:19:34] joequant : just added orders for xbtz15
[2015-11-06 11:19:46] joequant : name your price
[2015-11-06 11:34:50] gaoMex : joequant: 423
[2015-11-06 12:02:49] TschavaTschigger : happy new 24h trading period everybody
[2015-11-06 12:04:02] dorothy490 : why some bids/asks shown in bold?
[2015-11-06 12:04:46] habibi : first ones in order book ;p?
[2015-11-06 12:04:52] billyboy402 : i thought there yourtrade when they are bold
[2015-11-06 12:05:17] TschavaTschigger : this is a bit flawed.. when its your trade, it should be golden background, but sometimes it's just bold
[2015-11-06 12:05:42] billyboy402 : any admin online ?
[2015-11-06 12:05:48] TschavaTschigger : I will make screenshot and show it to staff the next time I notice it
[2015-11-06 12:05:52] gielbier : Why is XBT7D now XBT6D?
[2015-11-06 12:06:04] billyboy402 : i was going to ask that
[2015-11-06 12:06:11] wurstgelee : while expiry is still in 7d?
[2015-11-06 12:06:12] wurstgelee : :)
[2015-11-06 12:06:25] j8 : it's a leap week
[2015-11-06 12:06:27] gielbier : hmz after refresh it says "Every Friday" again
[2015-11-06 12:06:36] wurstgelee : lol yes
[2015-11-06 12:06:54] habibi : and after clicking tab its again 6
[2015-11-06 12:07:10] gielbier : haha yeah indeed
[2015-11-06 12:07:30] wurstgelee : also no no premium? fair price?
[2015-11-06 12:07:44] wurstgelee : fair basis of 0
[2015-11-06 12:10:58] wurstgelee : admins? fair basis of 0 on purpose? =)
[2015-11-06 12:11:07] wurstgelee : xbt24h that is
[2015-11-06 12:11:18] wurstgelee : also xbt7d
[2015-11-06 12:13:07] habibi : where u see fair basis?
[2015-11-06 12:13:40] TschavaTschigger : mark price = current xbt + fair basis
[2015-11-06 12:13:53] TschavaTschigger : since mark Price = current xbt this means fair basis = 0
[2015-11-06 12:20:27] habibi : BitMEX_Arthur: whats wrong with fair basis on 24h
[2015-11-06 12:25:09] wurstgelee : nothing now
[2015-11-06 12:25:18] wurstgelee : fixed it seems
[2015-11-06 12:25:55] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Arthur: trying to close Market a position but failing to close. Please assist
[2015-11-06 12:26:18] BitMEX_Arthur : What is the error message that you are getting?
[2015-11-06 12:27:41] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Arthur: i toggled to cross margin type.
[2015-11-06 12:28:30] BitMEX_Wally : Scottv53: Please switch to isolate and then try a market close
[2015-11-06 12:28:34] BitMEX_Wally : I am working on fixing this issue
[2015-11-06 12:28:35] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Arthur: same problem i had
[2015-11-06 12:28:40] wurstgelee : yesterday
[2015-11-06 12:28:41] TschavaTschigger : just be very carefuly with market orders at cross margin
[2015-11-06 12:28:51] wurstgelee : closing with isolated margin seems impossible sometimesy
[2015-11-06 12:29:18] Scottv53 : i was able to close the postion with cross margin.
[2015-11-06 12:29:25] wurstgelee : yes, that works
[2015-11-06 12:29:31] BitMEX_Wally : Scottv53: What error were you seeing?
[2015-11-06 12:29:42] wurstgelee : it said something of out of range for me
[2015-11-06 12:30:05] wurstgelee : because the order itself would be out of range of mark price with isolated margin
[2015-11-06 12:30:14] Scottv53 : it was reverting with " Market order cancelled"
[2015-11-06 12:30:20] wurstgelee : yep, same
[2015-11-06 12:30:34] wurstgelee : but that error shouldnt happen if it counters a position
[2015-11-06 12:31:09] TschavaTschigger : +1 happened to me too yesterday
[2015-11-06 12:31:12] wurstgelee : the workaround to use cross margin fixes it, but that is risky in times of high volatility
[2015-11-06 12:31:21] Scottv53 : it worked
[2015-11-06 12:31:24] j8 : @BitMEX_Wally @BitMEX_Arthur fair mid price is stuck
[2015-11-06 12:31:42] j8 : nvm
[2015-11-06 12:32:09] BitMEX_Wally : Scottv53: Ok, I see your close out order in the system, let me check what happened to it
[2015-11-06 12:32:35] wurstgelee : doesnt only happen with market close, also when you try to place a manual order with fixed price to close
[2015-11-06 12:32:40] BitMEX_Wally : Scottv53: This was in `XBTZ15`?
[2015-11-06 12:32:58] Scottv53 : yes
[2015-11-06 12:33:28] BitMEX_Wally : You were short 10 contracts and submitted a Close Market. This submitted a buy order to buy up to your liquidation price of 435.79 but unfortunately the ask price is 500.00 so the order was not executed
[2015-11-06 12:33:46] BitMEX_Wally : Close orders are IOC (ImmediateOrCancel) so they are canceled after sweeping the order book
[2015-11-06 12:34:14] dorothy490 : what means "canceled" ?
[2015-11-06 12:34:16] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: i will tell you next time this happens with a limit price order ;)
[2015-11-06 12:34:46] BitMEX_Wally : A market order does not rest in the order book
[2015-11-06 12:34:53] BitMEX_Wally : It tries to execute and then it is cancled
[2015-11-06 12:35:09] dorothy490 : so easy way to "cancel" orders found?
[2015-11-06 12:37:20] podizzler3k_ : if market close doesnt work try mashing your mouse button harder and faster
[2015-11-06 12:37:28] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2015-11-06 12:37:34] podizzler3k_ : screaming and panicking could help too
[2015-11-06 12:37:47] wurstgelee : i heard loud swearing helps too
[2015-11-06 12:40:31] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: can see the short order im about to close
[2015-11-06 12:41:01] BitMEX_Wally : Scottv53: Ys
[2015-11-06 12:41:33] BitMEX_Wally : You have isolate margin disabled, so it should be fine
[2015-11-06 12:42:07] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: are there any plans to make the leverage in isolated margin customizable in the soon future? I know I can add margin to a position manually, but this requires a position to be open already. Sometimes I want to open up a position outside of mark price range, and I dont want to switch to cross-margin for obvious reasons
[2015-11-06 12:42:38] Scottv53 : see my wallet balance take note the balance it s @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-06 12:43:01] BitMEX_Wally : Scottv53: Before you click market close
[2015-11-06 12:43:15] BitMEX_Wally : Just realise that you shorted at 426
[2015-11-06 12:43:20] BitMEX_Wally : And you are about to buy back at 500
[2015-11-06 12:43:25] BitMEX_Wally : That is a big loss
[2015-11-06 12:44:00] BitMEX_Wally : Actually the offer on XBTZ15 is now 465
[2015-11-06 12:44:02] BitMEX_Wally : But still a loss
[2015-11-06 12:44:45] BitMEX_Wally : TschavaTschigger: we are working on it
[2015-11-06 12:45:02] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: cool thanks
[2015-11-06 12:45:31] wurstgelee : TschavaTschigger: @BitMEX_Wally +1 ;)
[2015-11-06 12:45:51] Scottv53 : on pnl indicates postive @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-06 12:46:41] BitMEX_Wally : Scottv53: PNL is positive at the current mark price, which is 404.66
[2015-11-06 12:46:43] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: why "witheld" profit being used to maintain margin on my position but I cannot use this "profit" to add margin into isolated position?
[2015-11-06 12:46:46] BitMEX_Wally : It's not positive if you buy at the market price
[2015-11-06 12:47:38] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: All profit (realised and unrealised) is withheld until settlement or rebalance
[2015-11-06 12:49:03] dorothy490 : yes but this profit being used to maintain margin on cross mode
[2015-11-06 12:49:16] dorothy490 : however I cannot use it to manually add this part into isolated position
[2015-11-06 12:49:24] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Wally: Ok got it. there's diffirence between market and Mark price.
[2015-11-06 12:49:31] dorothy490 : non logical
[2015-11-06 12:50:18] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Let me check your account
[2015-11-06 12:51:08] dorothy490 : I doesnt have witheld profits atm
[2015-11-06 12:51:28] dorothy490 : I jsut noticed it earlier, when I had big profit yesterday but was able to use only "avaliable" part of the balance to add into "isolated" position
[2015-11-06 12:52:53] BitMEX_Wally : All unrealisedPnl on the position is already considered margin on the position
[2015-11-06 12:53:27] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: not talkingabout current situation. Talking about "Witheld profit" (which is unable to use before settlement). That part is not possible to add into isolated position
[2015-11-06 12:54:11] dorothy490 : also its not possible to copy from this trollbox :)
[2015-11-06 12:54:56] BitMEX_Wally : So yes, you can only move 'Avaialble Margin' into a position
[2015-11-06 12:55:02] BitMEX_Wally : So any withheld profit is not 'availble'
[2015-11-06 12:55:24] BitMEX_Wally : However, any unrealised profit on your `XBT24H` position is already on the position in isolated mode
[2015-11-06 12:55:50] BitMEX_Wally : This unrealised profit is unavailable to any other position, but it is available to your XBT24H position.
[2015-11-06 12:55:56] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. you can lose what to made
[2015-11-06 12:55:59] BitMEX_Wally : You can lose what you made
[2015-11-06 12:56:03] dorothy490 : so please describe why it is logical to use "withheld profit" to on cross mode but not possible to use on isolated margin
[2015-11-06 12:56:20] BitMEX_Wally : If you put isolated margin on
[2015-11-06 12:56:24] dorothy490 : I understand that I can lose it, question is why you are not allowing me to lose it on isolated mode :)
[2015-11-06 12:56:27] BitMEX_Wally : The 'withheld profit' is already there
[2015-11-06 12:56:30] BitMEX_Wally : It's not illogical
[2015-11-06 12:56:35] BitMEX_Wally : It is already added to the isolate margin position
[2015-11-06 12:56:51] BitMEX_Wally : Isolate margin means you only lose the 1% initial margin plus any profit
[2015-11-06 12:57:38] dorothy490 : Yes, and its possible to increase margin
[2015-11-06 12:57:41] dorothy490 : on isolatde
[2015-11-06 12:58:20] dorothy490 : and I can increase margin on isolated from "avalaible" part of the balance