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[2017-01-15 21:45:04] sleger : that was the plan
[2017-01-15 21:45:31] premium_freak : I'm trying to buy futures now, but I want to see a downtick
[2017-01-15 21:45:58] sleger : the 2e 0kc is pretty cheap
[2017-01-15 21:46:03] sleger : *2weeks
[2017-01-15 21:46:55] premium_freak : yep.. I was trying to buy those, but didn't get filled on that dip yesterday
[2017-01-15 21:50:50] premium_freak : now it'll probably run away
[2017-01-15 21:52:46] premium_freak : I'm so cheap, lol
[2017-01-15 21:53:09] sleger : was going to say that
[2017-01-15 21:53:26] premium_freak : I want a discount on the discounted futures :D
[2017-01-15 21:53:50] j8 : quadrigacx has been at least 4% premium since the dumping began. 1108 CAD, ~843 USD now
[2017-01-15 21:54:21] premium_freak : nice indicator of where we're probably going soon
[2017-01-15 21:54:42] j8 : i dunno about that
[2017-01-15 21:54:57] sleger : j8: what leverage they offer ?
[2017-01-15 21:55:02] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: what tipped you off that we are not going down? Im guessing it wasnt silly lines on a chart
[2017-01-15 21:55:02] premium_freak : spread between btc-e and bitstap is also very low currently
[2017-01-15 21:55:03] j8 : zero
[2017-01-15 21:55:04] jung1 : so what? see ya at600$?
[2017-01-15 21:55:20] sleger : j8: indian exchanges have been 10%+ above market
[2017-01-15 21:55:27] rapidtrades : BTCDJS:the fact that we're not going down
[2017-01-15 21:55:38] rapidtrades : and fees keep raping shorts
[2017-01-15 21:55:44] j8 : sleger: yeah, it works for me since i cash out in CAD anyway
[2017-01-15 21:55:54] BTCDJS : K
[2017-01-15 21:56:32] rapidtrades : looks like Pound will open 2% lower
[2017-01-15 21:56:45] BTCDJS : against?
[2017-01-15 21:56:54] premium_freak : I read they're making some really dumb decisions over there in the UK :p
[2017-01-15 21:57:00] rapidtrades : Dollar, pretty much everything too
[2017-01-15 21:57:54] BTCDJS : premium_freak: As they are in America
[2017-01-15 21:57:57] Apocalyptic : even ES ?
[2017-01-15 21:58:17] BTCDJS : As they did in greece
[2017-01-15 21:58:42] BTCDJS : As they have been doing for years in Zimbabwe
[2017-01-15 21:58:54] rapidtrades : the market is just being dumb like pre-Trump
[2017-01-15 21:59:03] rapidtrades : then all of a sudden Trump was a good thing
[2017-01-15 21:59:12] rapidtrades : markets can't price in political risk
[2017-01-15 22:00:21] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: 1.2001
[2017-01-15 22:00:45] BTCDJS : What is that?
[2017-01-15 22:00:53] rapidtrades : GBP/USD
[2017-01-15 22:01:23] BTCDJS : Ah
[2017-01-15 22:01:28] sleger : rapidtrades: 1.1998
[2017-01-15 22:01:35] BTCDJS : Thanks
[2017-01-15 22:01:47] rapidtrades : sleger: 1.1997
[2017-01-15 22:02:04] sleger : prices move, are you gonna read every tick out loud ?
[2017-01-15 22:02:16] rapidtrades : idk are you gonna?
[2017-01-15 22:02:46] sleger : no just said one
[2017-01-15 22:03:03] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-01-15 22:04:22] rapidtrades : Yuan opens little changed
[2017-01-15 22:06:21] Rado2 : why GBP down?
[2017-01-15 22:07:03] sleger : Theresa may
[2017-01-15 22:07:05] BTCDJS : 1Broker is still stuck on fridays price
[2017-01-15 22:11:32] nOgAnOo : Jesus loves me this I gn0. For the Bible tells me s0.
[2017-01-15 22:11:55] jung1 : basicly all shitcoins go up on polo
[2017-01-15 22:12:15] rapidtrades : how about ZEC
[2017-01-15 22:12:28] BTCDJS : not yet
[2017-01-15 22:12:36] BTCDJS : but potential
[2017-01-15 22:12:38] MikeHunt : pound is going to the floor
[2017-01-15 22:12:42] sleger : ETC will explode
[2017-01-15 22:12:53] sleger : it's the best thing after butter
[2017-01-15 22:13:15] nOgAnOo : Jesus Coin is the only Coin that matters
[2017-01-15 22:13:21] MikeHunt : sleger: etc looks like its going down atm despite the good news
[2017-01-15 22:13:33] sleger : oh there are news ?
[2017-01-15 22:13:36] anonymous123421 : Is there a reason for alts not having perpetual swaps on bitmex? Not enough liquidity/volume?
[2017-01-15 22:13:50] sleger : yes
[2017-01-15 22:14:12] anonymous123421 : That's what I figured
[2017-01-15 22:14:57] sleger : however there is no valid reason why fut are 7d and not 30d
[2017-01-15 22:14:58] MikeHunt : sleger: BTCC choose them or something over ETH
[2017-01-15 22:16:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 100 @ 5522.4
[2017-01-15 22:16:45] Rado2 : anonymous123421: 7D is a lot more commission on settlement than 30D
[2017-01-15 22:17:14] nOgAnOo : WELLS FARGO SCAM http://i.imgsafe.org/bf483ea351.png
[2017-01-15 22:17:33] nOgAnOo : <3 Sleger
[2017-01-15 22:17:39] nOgAnOo : This new laptop is already paying itself off
[2017-01-15 22:17:58] sleger : Rado2: hmm but i stopped trading eth here and switched to polo
[2017-01-15 22:18:12] Rado2 : sleger: true
[2017-01-15 22:18:20] Rado2 : I don't trade these future anymore either
[2017-01-15 22:18:31] sleger : nOgAnOo: whats the problem ?
[2017-01-15 22:18:34] anonymous123421 : nOgAnOo: Cold up there in north mexic?
[2017-01-15 22:18:50] nOgAnOo : yeah I am looking for some boots for my snowboard
[2017-01-15 22:19:21] nOgAnOo : The problem is where am I gonna find 20 bums to sign up for this free 250
[2017-01-15 22:19:42] nOgAnOo : 100x all in
[2017-01-15 22:19:51] nOgAnOo : short on wells fargo
[2017-01-15 22:19:55] sleger : nOgAnOo: well you're one of them
[2017-01-15 22:20:02] sleger : so that's 250$ already
[2017-01-15 22:20:25] nOgAnOo : Can't let a good opportunity like this pass me by without taking full bum advantage of it
[2017-01-15 22:20:55] sleger : so why did you say scam ?
[2017-01-15 22:30:43] Dtrade16 : What up
[2017-01-15 22:30:58] Dtrade16 : Guys I'm shorting ZEC to hell
[2017-01-15 22:31:50] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: Ok its open now. Im not used to forex. Are you long already or expecting another drop?
[2017-01-15 22:34:56] BTCDJS : Jesus. That monthly chart looks bad. Ill just enter a long when it decides its found the bottom
[2017-01-15 22:37:35] BTCDJS : Dtrade16: RIP
[2017-01-15 22:38:20] anonymous123421 : If I wanted to have a medium term long position in an alt, would I have to buy the futures contract after each settlement? does that present issues?
[2017-01-15 22:39:35] BTCDJS : Youre not here to make trouble are you?
[2017-01-15 22:39:58] anonymous123421 : Who me?
[2017-01-15 22:40:02] BTCDJS : yes
[2017-01-15 22:40:05] anonymous123421 : uh
[2017-01-15 22:40:17] anonymous123421 : no?
[2017-01-15 22:40:25] BTCDJS : Good
[2017-01-15 22:40:39] BTCDJS : lets keep it that way
[2017-01-15 22:41:01] anonymous123421 : Is there something wrong with my question? I was serious
[2017-01-15 22:41:39] BTCDJS : Im just messing with you ?
[2017-01-15 22:41:59] BTCDJS : Yeah youd have to keep entering after settlement
[2017-01-15 22:42:00] birdie numn : this is a trollbox afterall
[2017-01-15 22:42:38] anonymous123421 : haha you bastards
[2017-01-15 22:42:57] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-15 22:47:36] anonymous123421 : It kind of sucks I would have to log in every so often just to reopen my position
[2017-01-15 22:47:59] anonymous123421 : Especially with 7d futures
[2017-01-15 22:48:21] Dtrade16 : BTCDJS: Why?
[2017-01-15 22:48:28] nOgAnOo : ALL IN SHORT 100x
[2017-01-15 22:48:32] nOgAnOo : Just got filled
[2017-01-15 22:48:45] nOgAnOo : What a bargain
[2017-01-15 22:49:16] j8 : they don't even launch next week's contract until this week has settled, so there's definitely risk involved every time you roll
[2017-01-15 22:49:17] anonymous123421 : nOgAnOo: how much?
[2017-01-15 22:49:20] nOgAnOo : I'm shorting to 8 pesos
[2017-01-15 22:49:25] nOgAnOo : 1000 contracts
[2017-01-15 22:49:28] nOgAnOo : 21x leverage
[2017-01-15 22:50:02] nOgAnOo : if it goes up I'll lower my entry
[2017-01-15 22:50:31] nOgAnOo : at this price it is a gamblers game though
[2017-01-15 22:50:45] nOgAnOo : we were just 500 dollars higher last week
[2017-01-15 22:58:03] nOgAnOo : I need help
[2017-01-15 22:58:37] abbey : daily turning green soon everywhere. new week starting.
[2017-01-15 22:58:53] nOgAnOo : oh shit
[2017-01-15 22:59:00] nOgAnOo : i closed out just in time!!!!!!!!!
[2017-01-15 22:59:10] nOgAnOo : Up to 0.0575 here
[2017-01-15 22:59:15] nOgAnOo : WHAT DTO DO???
[2017-01-15 22:59:31] nOgAnOo : How far will we rise???
[2017-01-15 22:59:38] nOgAnOo : 10,000 dollars? 100,000???
[2017-01-15 22:59:51] nOgAnOo : 500 million dollars????
[2017-01-15 23:00:15] MrRGnome : nOgAnOo: You do need help.
[2017-01-15 23:00:32] nOgAnOo : How do I set a trailing stop on an order
[2017-01-15 23:00:43] BTCDJS : abbey: you are a true bull. You fought the fight till the end. And now you'll be rewarded.
[2017-01-15 23:00:58] nOgAnOo : GREEEEEEEEEN
[2017-01-15 23:01:08] thedoc : man
[2017-01-15 23:01:11] thedoc : longed at 801 quarterly
[2017-01-15 23:01:12] thedoc : closed it
[2017-01-15 23:01:14] abbey : BTCDJS: thanks, mate! I am!
[2017-01-15 23:01:17] thedoc : looks like 800 bottom
[2017-01-15 23:02:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1662 @ 811.51
[2017-01-15 23:07:10] rapidtrades : bras?
[2017-01-15 23:07:59] rapidtrades : how's it going bras?
[2017-01-15 23:07:59] Rado2 : nOgAnOo: I thought you shorted
[2017-01-15 23:08:16] nOgAnOo : I closed in profit right before the green dildo appeared
[2017-01-15 23:08:24] nOgAnOo : I'm short now at 814 again
[2017-01-15 23:08:29] rapidtrades : oh how convinient
[2017-01-15 23:08:34] nOgAnOo : hoping it doesn' skyrocket
[2017-01-15 23:08:54] laisee : how many times u rekt, nOgAnOo?
[2017-01-15 23:08:56] nOgAnOo : if it does i'll just sell another 1000 higher
[2017-01-15 23:09:00] Rado2 : hope is the best tool in trading
[2017-01-15 23:09:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 2200 @ 5584.9
[2017-01-15 23:09:28] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna wait this one out
[2017-01-15 23:09:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2000 @ 811.70
[2017-01-15 23:09:47] nOgAnOo : should dump soon
[2017-01-15 23:09:51] thedoc : Pumping
[2017-01-15 23:09:51] nOgAnOo : I hope
[2017-01-15 23:09:52] MrRGnome : nOgAnOo: Are you low leveraged enough that a 1000 movement won't rekt you and you'll have more leverage left to cost average in?
[2017-01-15 23:10:00] nOgAnOo : 20x
[2017-01-15 23:10:04] MrRGnome : i.e. no
[2017-01-15 23:10:09] MrRGnome : gunna get rekt son
[2017-01-15 23:10:10] thedoc : Bottom is in. Shorters fucked
[2017-01-15 23:10:26] thedoc : 14,000 btc short on bitfinex LOL
[2017-01-15 23:10:30] anonymous123421 : Short squeeze incoming
[2017-01-15 23:10:32] nOgAnOo : entry 814
[2017-01-15 23:10:46] thedoc : New weekly pump candle soon
[2017-01-15 23:12:06] nOgAnOo : Here is where the fun begins
[2017-01-15 23:12:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 814.49
[2017-01-15 23:12:23] Dtrade16 : Are we pumping?
[2017-01-15 23:12:31] Dtrade16 : Fake out?
[2017-01-15 23:13:01] anonymous123421 : Tally ho lads
[2017-01-15 23:14:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 230 @ 816.27
[2017-01-15 23:15:59] MrRGnome : Finally H17 regains its premium
[2017-01-15 23:16:08] MrRGnome : Will it last?
[2017-01-15 23:16:12] Mr.Bombastic : Lets liquidate some more shorts plz
[2017-01-15 23:17:03] nOgAnOo : Bitcoin is dead
[2017-01-15 23:17:10] nOgAnOo : I threw another 1000 short here
[2017-01-15 23:17:15] nOgAnOo : 42x all in
[2017-01-15 23:17:23] shiroe : so i placed a stop, and waiting it to be triggered. all of a sudden it was automatically removed. lol
[2017-01-15 23:17:24] Rado2 : oh boy
[2017-01-15 23:17:30] Rado2 : another liquidation coming
[2017-01-15 23:17:36] anonymous123421 : nOgAnOo: dude
[2017-01-15 23:17:41] nOgAnOo : ALL IN
[2017-01-15 23:17:47] nOgAnOo : SHORTING TO 10 PESOS
[2017-01-15 23:18:07] nOgAnOo : This is the pump before the flash crash
[2017-01-15 23:18:17] nOgAnOo : My only problem will be adl in 3000% profit
[2017-01-15 23:18:18] shiroe : Now i know where the rekts are coming.
[2017-01-15 23:19:03] nOgAnOo : Better short before it's too late guys
[2017-01-15 23:19:27] enki0182 : looks like bearwhale 2.0 is still holding to his 5600cny self promise...lol
[2017-01-15 23:19:32] enki0182 : he will be slain like the last one
[2017-01-15 23:20:08] nOgAnOo : Yay China
[2017-01-15 23:20:10] nOgAnOo : pls keep dumping
[2017-01-15 23:20:17] nOgAnOo : That was stupid of me to use such high leverage
[2017-01-15 23:20:18] nOgAnOo : =/
[2017-01-15 23:20:24] nOgAnOo : Thank you China
[2017-01-15 23:20:30] nOgAnOo : PHEW
[2017-01-15 23:20:35] nOgAnOo : *wipes sweat off forehead*
[2017-01-15 23:20:56] Rado2 : nOgAnOo: time to cover
[2017-01-15 23:21:47] thedoc : 3,842,291 open quarterly contracts on xbth17 wow
[2017-01-15 23:22:05] thedoc : and premium is $0
[2017-01-15 23:22:14] BTCDJS : So if you're in hella profit and you get ADLed what happens?
[2017-01-15 23:22:24] thedoc : your position is closed
[2017-01-15 23:22:32] thedoc : / check your email
[2017-01-15 23:22:37] thedoc : or part of your position
[2017-01-15 23:22:54] BTCDJS : But you still keep the profit?
[2017-01-15 23:23:06] thedoc : this pumps a lot and quarterly premium gonna increase and shorters get rekt
[2017-01-15 23:23:15] thedoc : yeah you get closed at the margin call price
[2017-01-15 23:23:17] BTCDJS : i always trade the swings so I don't know
[2017-01-15 23:23:17] jonny : i sold some of my futures at 820yay
[2017-01-15 23:23:39] nOgAnOo : ugh
[2017-01-15 23:23:48] nOgAnOo : I was trying to get in at 809.. should have market bought
[2017-01-15 23:24:00] nOgAnOo : waste of a good pump
[2017-01-15 23:24:38] nOgAnOo : I can imagine the admins at OKcoin
[2017-01-15 23:24:43] nOgAnOo : little chinese men with hard hats on
[2017-01-15 23:24:55] nOgAnOo : Manipulating bitcoin price 16 hours per day
[2017-01-15 23:25:22] MrRGnome : nOgAnOo: Do you at least use stop losses?
[2017-01-15 23:25:46] nOgAnOo : no that's what I was just asking
[2017-01-15 23:25:52] nOgAnOo : when I said "I need help"
[2017-01-15 23:25:55] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: where would you put a stop loss at 100x leverage?
[2017-01-15 23:25:56] nOgAnOo : and got mocked by you guys
[2017-01-15 23:26:10] MrRGnome : I can't imagine trading these ten dollar bands at high leverage, you guys are nuts.
[2017-01-15 23:26:38] MrRGnome : I put my stop losses right behind support/resistance.
[2017-01-15 23:26:47] MrRGnome : And well within my acceptable losses
[2017-01-15 23:27:10] MrRGnome : Or I hedge
[2017-01-15 23:27:21] MrRGnome : Whichever is best for the context.
[2017-01-15 23:27:38] nOgAnOo : Not sure whos bts these are
[2017-01-15 23:27:40] nOgAnOo : just warning you
[2017-01-15 23:27:44] nOgAnOo : I am going to wreck all of them
[2017-01-15 23:28:30] BTCDJS : My point is roganoo doesn't have a lot of room for a stop loss 100x with such small contracts @MrRGnome
[2017-01-15 23:28:47] MrRGnome : I need to make a sentiment analysis bot which uses the sentiment of relatively new traders as an indicator.
[2017-01-15 23:28:58] enki0182 : ^rofl
[2017-01-15 23:29:09] BTCDJS : Good idea
[2017-01-15 23:29:53] Rado2 : nOgAnOo: did you cover when I said: cover
[2017-01-15 23:30:09] nOgAnOo : what does that mean?
[2017-01-15 23:30:20] Rado2 : to buy back your short
[2017-01-15 23:30:25] MrRGnome : nOgAnOo: cover your potentiall losses and reduce leverage/exit position
[2017-01-15 23:30:28] nOgAnOo : I tried...
[2017-01-15 23:30:34] nOgAnOo : bots got in my way
[2017-01-15 23:30:45] MrRGnome : hidden orders are your friend
[2017-01-15 23:30:47] nOgAnOo : was too cowardly to market lose
[2017-01-15 23:30:57] nOgAnOo : oh..
[2017-01-15 23:31:33] MrRGnome : It sucks not being able to take maker fees, but it's worth it when you know the volume isn't enough to fill your position and bots will undercut you
[2017-01-15 23:31:59] nOgAnOo : so if i market close on a hidden order I still don't get fees?
[2017-01-15 23:32:16] MrRGnome : You take fees as though it were a market order, I believe. that's how it works everywhere else
[2017-01-15 23:32:36] shiroe : aright, dont make me regret my 50k premium. ahaha
[2017-01-15 23:34:15] nOgAnOo : well that last dump seems to have lowered the trajectory
[2017-01-15 23:34:30] nOgAnOo : chance of another dump soon
[2017-01-15 23:34:54] MrRGnome : nOgAnOo: If my sentiment analysis bot was online, it would say this means buy
[2017-01-15 23:35:11] nOgAnOo : this is why bots lose
[2017-01-15 23:35:59] yoloshi : mods testnet not working `Access to Script at 'https://testnet-static.bitmex.com/app-<id>.js' from origin 'https://testnet.bitmex.com' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'https://testnet.bitmex.com' is therefore not allowed access.`
[2017-01-15 23:36:02] nOgAnOo : Here comes the dump
[2017-01-15 23:36:39] MrRGnome : nOgAnOo: AKA buy before we break 5600
[2017-01-15 23:37:06] Rado2 : yoloshi: working fine here
[2017-01-15 23:37:23] yoloshi : hmm ok ty
[2017-01-15 23:37:47] nOgAnOo : here is where we find out the future
[2017-01-15 23:37:53] jonny : it would have analyzed everything else to be found online about him and come to a complex combination of negative and positive indicating scores @MrRGnome
[2017-01-15 23:37:54] nOgAnOo : in the next 3 minutes
[2017-01-15 23:38:08] yoloshi : rado: can u log in?
[2017-01-15 23:38:29] Rado2 : yoloshi: I am logged in
[2017-01-15 23:38:33] yoloshi : i get bouncy logo but no further
[2017-01-15 23:38:46] anonymous123421 : If there is a large dump in the next 3 minutes I will give you one mBTC @nOgAnOo
[2017-01-15 23:38:50] Rado2 : let me try to get out and login again
[2017-01-15 23:38:52] MrRGnome : jonny: Nah I think I'd base it solely on length of time user has been observed in chat and earliest sighting of user, with a weight for users who joined in a period with multiple new users
[2017-01-15 23:38:53] jonny : i still got about 200% the size of what my long started at $750
[2017-01-15 23:39:06] nOgAnOo : Wooo
[2017-01-15 23:39:13] nOgAnOo : 1 mbtc coming my way
[2017-01-15 23:39:23] nOgAnOo : GO CHINA
[2017-01-15 23:39:30] Rado2 : yoloshi: working fine
[2017-01-15 23:39:37] nOgAnOo : no the other way...
[2017-01-15 23:39:38] Rado2 : try clearing the cache on your browser
[2017-01-15 23:39:42] nOgAnOo : China the other way...
[2017-01-15 23:40:01] yoloshi : Rado2: ok, ty - maybe some chromium monkey business
[2017-01-15 23:40:01] nOgAnOo : someone doesn't want it to go down
[2017-01-15 23:40:04] MrRGnome : Oh no did you lose your 1 mbtc?
[2017-01-15 23:40:39] nOgAnOo : it's following the pattern I guessed tho
[2017-01-15 23:40:40] anonymous123421 : I just promised to give him one mbtc if there is a major dump
[2017-01-15 23:40:44] nOgAnOo : slow downward from here
[2017-01-15 23:40:52] anonymous123421 : 2 minutes to go
[2017-01-15 23:40:59] MrRGnome : anonymous123421: What is a major dump??
[2017-01-15 23:41:20] nOgAnOo : hmmm
[2017-01-15 23:41:26] jung1 : from 817 to 50$
[2017-01-15 23:41:30] nOgAnOo : looks bullish tho
[2017-01-15 23:41:47] nOgAnOo : certainly does not feel like major dump coming
[2017-01-15 23:41:49] nOgAnOo : but I can hope
[2017-01-15 23:42:05] nOgAnOo : usually I just do the opposite of what I think is right
[2017-01-15 23:42:12] MrRGnome : You still short at 814?
[2017-01-15 23:42:26] nOgAnOo : because they want me to do what they think that I think they want
[2017-01-15 23:42:39] nOgAnOo : 815.63 stuck with 2000 contracts
[2017-01-15 23:42:40] nOgAnOo : yes
[2017-01-15 23:43:31] nOgAnOo : ok we've reached the end of the flag
[2017-01-15 23:43:37] nOgAnOo : here is where they have to make their decision
[2017-01-15 23:43:44] nOgAnOo : rek noganoo or not rek noganoo
[2017-01-15 23:44:31] anonymous123421 : nOgAnOo: Time is up for the 3 minutes I'm afraid
[2017-01-15 23:44:35] jonny : bitmex is kidding me. When ever i watch the position margin size it will be 0.0888 or 0.777 or 0.666
[2017-01-15 23:44:39] nOgAnOo : boooo
[2017-01-15 23:45:06] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna short another 2000 here
[2017-01-15 23:45:15] nOgAnOo : all in
[2017-01-15 23:45:27] jonny : no, dont
[2017-01-15 23:46:09] jonny : you dont want to pay the insurance again
[2017-01-15 23:46:19] nOgAnOo : possible beginning of a new leg up?
[2017-01-15 23:46:22] nOgAnOo : who will win?
[2017-01-15 23:46:35] MrRGnome : nOgAnOo: chronic gamblers always lose.
[2017-01-15 23:46:44] MrRGnome : But I don't mind taking your money.
[2017-01-15 23:47:01] nOgAnOo : it's ok I can survive off of other's garbage
[2017-01-15 23:47:09] MrRGnome : As it should be
[2017-01-15 23:47:47] nOgAnOo : well it followed the EXACT trend I predicted
[2017-01-15 23:47:50] nOgAnOo : but I don't know what's next
[2017-01-15 23:48:08] premium_freak : nOgAnOo: down and then consolidation?
[2017-01-15 23:48:11] MrRGnome : nOgAnOo: If you predicted the trend why did you short on the middle of it
[2017-01-15 23:48:22] nOgAnOo : The middle?
[2017-01-15 23:48:34] nOgAnOo : that would have been 812
[2017-01-15 23:48:34] MrRGnome : It went much higher than your entry point
[2017-01-15 23:48:38] rapidtrades : dis ur last bounce at 800 yacunt
[2017-01-15 23:50:17] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: still waiting for a big fall?
[2017-01-15 23:51:25] nOgAnOo : DOWN WE GO
[2017-01-15 23:51:26] rapidtrades : waiting? does one wait for a sunrise?
[2017-01-15 23:51:33] rapidtrades : it merely happens on its own
[2017-01-15 23:51:57] rapidtrades : it's inevitable whether I wait for it or not
[2017-01-15 23:52:00] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: yeah, I'm pretty sure one waits for a sunrise. One certainly doesn't hurry it along.
[2017-01-15 23:52:07] MrRGnome : I hope you're right
[2017-01-15 23:52:25] MrRGnome : I am never sad to see some cheap bitcoins
[2017-01-15 23:53:54] anonymous123421 : Can you explain such bearish sentiment? PBOC is probably the largest reason the price might fall IMO
[2017-01-15 23:54:52] MrRGnome : If the SEC rule change gets rejected I'll probably get bearish. Other reasons to be bearish include the segwit lack of popularity, if lightning gets delayed or doesn't work properly
[2017-01-15 23:55:18] rapidtrades : imo there will be btc regulation in china and they will implement that 50k cap on bitcoin transfers too
[2017-01-15 23:55:28] anonymous123421 : MrRGnome: That makes sense, thanks
[2017-01-15 23:55:53] rapidtrades : that's the min bearish scenario..if they find major irregularities we could crash
[2017-01-15 23:55:53] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: That seems difficult to enforce, I guess they would just implement it at the exchange level
[2017-01-15 23:55:54] MrRGnome : I'm personally not a bear, I think the majority of these situations will have positive resolutions
[2017-01-15 23:56:02] KingTuna : I don't see the PBOC saga over - Doesn't feel like it has been finalised for now
[2017-01-15 23:56:10] rapidtrades : anonymous123421: well yes, they are in the exchanges rght now
[2017-01-15 23:56:15] KingTuna : Will crop up again after every big spike
[2017-01-15 23:56:21] KingTuna : every*
[2017-01-15 23:56:25] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: indeed
[2017-01-15 23:57:16] rapidtrades : regulation will come in few months as these things can drag on
[2017-01-15 23:57:27] MrRGnome : An exchange collapsing because of chinese investigated fraud or the like is a real possibility now that regulators are taking a close look at the books
[2017-01-15 23:57:28] rapidtrades : so we'll see constant pressure on prices
[2017-01-15 23:57:31] MrRGnome : A hacking is always possible
[2017-01-15 23:57:38] MrRGnome : Always reasons to be bearish
[2017-01-15 23:58:29] MrRGnome : Bitcoin is a risky asset, for every up side it has significant risk as an investment.
[2017-01-15 23:59:38] rapidtrades : im losing half a month's rent in 1 day of funding
[2017-01-15 23:59:44] rapidtrades : shit's getting real
[2017-01-15 23:59:52] j8 : ^ doing it wrong
[2017-01-15 23:59:58] anonymous123421 : Thanks for elaborating, I think I'm prone to being excessively bullish even though I know about most of those things
[2017-01-16 00:00:11] rapidtrades : j8: teach me brah
[2017-01-16 00:00:39] rapidtrades : i see no way out except cashing out a big chunk to lower my btc exposure
[2017-01-16 00:01:09] j8 : whats wrong with that?
[2017-01-16 00:01:38] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: How much is half a months rent for you?
[2017-01-16 00:01:43] nOgAnOo : looks like another dump coming
[2017-01-16 00:01:48] nOgAnOo : I'm holding my short
[2017-01-16 00:02:07] rapidtrades : i guess nothing...been doing it slowly but i guess I gotta pick up the pace @j8
[2017-01-16 00:02:19] MrRGnome : You must have a position in the hundreds of thousands of dollars if 0.1% is half a months rent
[2017-01-16 00:02:45] rapidtrades : it's closer to 1% when u add them all up
[2017-01-16 00:02:55] rapidtrades : i said per day
[2017-01-16 00:03:03] MrRGnome : True, funding has been pretty engative
[2017-01-16 00:03:09] MrRGnome : *negative
[2017-01-16 00:03:20] rapidtrades : that's for today only
[2017-01-16 00:03:50] j8 : rapidtrades: i sold a big chunk on spot and on quarterlies, i don't pay funding unless i have a very good reason to
[2017-01-16 00:04:17] MrRGnome : Yeah I hate paying funding. I love earning it though
[2017-01-16 00:04:32] MrRGnome : Trading against the market sentiment has been treating me well.
[2017-01-16 00:04:37] j8 : i.e. i'll pay it if the price is right or there's better rates elsewhere
[2017-01-16 00:04:49] jonny : it is already priced in usually and jumps only afterwards
[2017-01-16 00:05:06] rapidtrades : j8: selling on spot has counter-party risk tho...and if u do it on margin u have to pay
[2017-01-16 00:05:39] j8 : if it's a long term position, withdraw to your bank
[2017-01-16 00:06:27] j8 : selling swap is a terrible hedge anyway because of ADL
[2017-01-16 00:06:36] rapidtrades : agree
[2017-01-16 00:06:51] j8 : quarterly is more likely to clear liquidations at this point
[2017-01-16 00:07:03] rapidtrades : I've been bit lazy, u need to jump in&out swap to make it work
[2017-01-16 00:07:12] nOgAnOo : Bulls just aren't gaining any ground
[2017-01-16 00:07:16] nOgAnOo : Still hoping for big dump
[2017-01-16 00:07:29] j8 : yep, 8 hour funding makes it really high maintenance
[2017-01-16 00:07:53] rapidtrades : i think I know the adjustment I need to make
[2017-01-16 00:08:13] j8 : or, maybe now is the time to go all in ZEC?
[2017-01-16 00:09:05] rapidtrades : 808k market cap
[2017-01-16 00:09:13] rapidtrades : its cheap but it lost the fomo factor
[2017-01-16 00:13:06] anonymous123421 : what exactly stops someone from closing their position seconds before funding and taking out the same position right after? Nothing? Price difference?
[2017-01-16 00:13:49] anonymous123421 : Bid/Ask Spread?
[2017-01-16 00:16:37] nOgAnOo : grr
[2017-01-16 00:16:41] nOgAnOo : please go down I'm tired
[2017-01-16 00:16:46] nOgAnOo : could market close here in a profit
[2017-01-16 00:16:54] nOgAnOo : but market closing is cowardly
[2017-01-16 00:17:13] j8 : anonymous123421: price should adjust by the same amount as the funding. like when stocks pay a dividend
[2017-01-16 00:18:17] nOgAnOo : Here's a little red
[2017-01-16 00:18:25] rapidtrades : should but there's a lot of overreaction and under-reaction
[2017-01-16 00:18:44] rapidtrades : its prolly doable with a bot and small sizes
[2017-01-16 00:18:57] nOgAnOo : ok made 10 bucks
[2017-01-16 00:18:57] j8 : sometimes people forget and leave orders on the book which are a good buy / sell immediately after funding
[2017-01-16 00:19:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 52124 @ 813.88 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-16 00:19:02] nOgAnOo : not really worth the time but ok
[2017-01-16 00:19:10] nOgAnOo : up to 0.634 now
[2017-01-16 00:19:32] j8 : and there are usually people fighting over eachother to get in right after a big funding
[2017-01-16 00:19:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 250 @ 811.03
[2017-01-16 00:21:01] rapidtrades : j8: it seems most mm bots don't accuratly re-price with funding in mind
[2017-01-16 00:21:20] nOgAnOo : should have held another minute
[2017-01-16 00:21:23] Rado2 : rapidtrades: why would they?
[2017-01-16 00:21:25] nOgAnOo : usually the way it works tho eh?
[2017-01-16 00:21:27] Rado2 : it's not matterial
[2017-01-16 00:21:31] j8 : probably true
[2017-01-16 00:21:36] j8 : of course it's material
[2017-01-16 00:21:59] Rado2 : how is it?
[2017-01-16 00:22:11] Rado2 : you might not even have a positions
[2017-01-16 00:22:21] Rado2 : or if you have it might be in your favour
[2017-01-16 00:22:30] Rado2 : it works out at the end
[2017-01-16 00:22:51] Rado2 : I don't think it's worth to do something about the funding
[2017-01-16 00:23:33] j8 : crazy talk
[2017-01-16 00:23:58] Rado2 : I can show you my trades
[2017-01-16 00:24:14] j8 : you're willing to buy/sell at the same price right after a 0.375% funding as right before it?
[2017-01-16 00:24:36] j8 : then your orders will get sniped right after funding
[2017-01-16 00:25:10] Rado2 : j8: maybe that is exactly what I want
[2017-01-16 00:25:49] j8 : then people take your orders right before, and give them back right after
[2017-01-16 00:25:52] sleger : maybe you should consider a psychiatrist ?
[2017-01-16 00:25:58] sleger : Rado2:
[2017-01-16 00:26:02] jezeus : Is the "Advanced Layout" supposed to look blurry?
[2017-01-16 00:26:25] nOgAnOo : I love you sleger
[2017-01-16 00:28:03] nOgAnOo : Cheap coins guys
[2017-01-16 00:28:07] nOgAnOo : Real cheap Coins
[2017-01-16 00:28:15] rapidtrades : coinz
[2017-01-16 00:28:19] nOgAnOo : *is trying to get a short filled*
[2017-01-16 00:28:25] KingTuna : As we stand there is no direction (but thinking it will go lower). I just have a strategy in place where I make 0.05 BTC /day on swings - Small trades always seem to make $ over big trades (stands out less is my theory and easier to offload). I am now up from 0.04BTC 4 days ago to 0.32 BTC today
[2017-01-16 00:28:48] j8 : Rado2: you can take advantage of the high order flow right after funding, but you should at least try to do it at an efficient price
[2017-01-16 00:28:53] nOgAnOo : That is what I am doing KingTuna
[2017-01-16 00:29:07] nOgAnOo : Some days here tho there is 0 tradez
[2017-01-16 00:29:26] anonymous123421 : KingTuna: Nice! What sort of analysis do you do?
[2017-01-16 00:29:28] nOgAnOo : they should call this exchange ZEREX
[2017-01-16 00:29:57] KingTuna : nOgAnOo: yeah as time goes by, less volatility = less opportunity, but then there will be a big ass move
[2017-01-16 00:30:09] nOgAnOo : yea
[2017-01-16 00:30:42] KingTuna : anonymous123421: Really just on the ball and short the pumps and long the bottoms of the candles and work on $3-5 moves with between 2000-5000 XBT contracts
[2017-01-16 00:31:13] rapidtrades : man i cant get this cereal down
[2017-01-16 00:31:22] anonymous123421 : KingTuna: Seems like a large amount of leverage
[2017-01-16 00:31:31] rapidtrades : how do ppl eat cereal without nutella or honey chugged in there
[2017-01-16 00:32:03] KingTuna : anonymous123421: 15 to 25x or so..
[2017-01-16 00:32:20] KingTuna : But I am out if it doesnt go my way - Stops in place
[2017-01-16 00:32:26] rapidtrades : bet the bastards make all cereal now 'sugar free' so it makes like cardboard
[2017-01-16 00:32:32] anonymous123421 : KingTuna: makes sense
[2017-01-16 00:32:37] rapidtrades : tastes*
[2017-01-16 00:32:53] j8 : kid's cereal is still full of crap
[2017-01-16 00:33:01] j8 : delicious crap
[2017-01-16 00:33:14] rapidtrades : yeah like vitamins b6 b12 and shit
[2017-01-16 00:33:26] rapidtrades : they're all 'fortified'
[2017-01-16 00:33:34] j8 : nothing wrong with b vitamins
[2017-01-16 00:33:45] j8 : good for hangovers apparently
[2017-01-16 00:33:46] rapidtrades : too much of those can hurt
[2017-01-16 00:33:54] rapidtrades : iron esp
[2017-01-16 00:34:00] rapidtrades : WHICH THEY PUT IN EVERYTHING NOW
[2017-01-16 00:34:16] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: what cereal are you eating?
[2017-01-16 00:34:44] rapidtrades : says nestle gluten free cornflakes
[2017-01-16 00:34:52] rapidtrades : lol @gluten free
[2017-01-16 00:35:01] Rado2 : @j8 how would you skew the orders because of the funding rate?
[2017-01-16 00:35:08] rapidtrades : there's like 1% gluten in regular cereal
[2017-01-16 00:35:38] rapidtrades : sugar free, gluten free, fat free
[2017-01-16 00:35:48] rapidtrades : chugged full of vitamins
[2017-01-16 00:36:05] rapidtrades : are u eating real food or just chewing vitamins?
[2017-01-16 00:36:09] rapidtrades : u decide
[2017-01-16 00:36:45] nOgAnOo : people aren't actually "gluten-intollerant"
[2017-01-16 00:37:09] j8 : Rado2: whatever your mid price is before funding, skew it by `-fundingRate` after funding
[2017-01-16 00:37:11] anonymous123421 : Celiac disease is a real thing, but it's rare
[2017-01-16 00:37:29] rapidtrades : nOgAnOo: yes but costs then very little to turn regular cereal into 'gluten free'
[2017-01-16 00:37:29] nOgAnOo : they are just reacting to the pesticides in the wheat in my opinion
[2017-01-16 00:37:53] nOgAnOo : Long Monsanto Coin
[2017-01-16 00:37:57] nOgAnOo : MEWN
[2017-01-16 00:38:08] Rado2 : j8: thanks
[2017-01-16 00:38:17] j8 : no prob
[2017-01-16 00:38:23] rapidtrades : and now u can sell it to regular folk and celiacs and ppl who thing they're gluten intolerant
[2017-01-16 00:39:06] anonymous123421 : The gluten in the wheat is not digested properly by people with Celiac disease and ends up in the blood stream, it is then attacked by your body.
[2017-01-16 00:39:08] nOgAnOo : bible say gluttony is a sin
[2017-01-16 00:39:17] nOgAnOo : I am on a strictly glutton free diet
[2017-01-16 00:39:55] rapidtrades : what's funny is it says 'chocolate taste' on the package
[2017-01-16 00:40:05] rapidtrades : hint: THERE IS NO CHOCOLATE TASTE
[2017-01-16 00:40:14] rapidtrades : cos there's no chocolate
[2017-01-16 00:40:15] nOgAnOo : :D
[2017-01-16 00:41:09] rapidtrades : oh wait my bad....there's 3.5% cocoa powder
[2017-01-16 00:41:44] rapidtrades : why even put it in there at 3.5%....u can't taste that low concentration
[2017-01-16 00:42:09] j8 : cocoa without sugar is not awesome
[2017-01-16 00:42:44] rapidtrades : it's just terrible
[2017-01-16 00:42:56] rapidtrades : what do u guys have for breakfast
[2017-01-16 00:43:25] anonymous123421 : coco puffs
[2017-01-16 00:43:36] anonymous123421 : hell yeah they're delicious
[2017-01-16 00:43:45] rapidtrades : is that Kelogg?
[2017-01-16 00:43:54] anonymous123421 : General Mills I think
[2017-01-16 00:44:05] rapidtrades : ah ok
[2017-01-16 00:44:09] j8 : i don't want to share such personal information
[2017-01-16 00:44:37] anonymous123421 : j8: suuuuper seeeecret info
[2017-01-16 00:44:54] rapidtrades : https://web.archive.org/web/20091214193131/http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/wireStory?id=9289160
[2017-01-16 00:45:00] rapidtrades : ^ look at that shit man
[2017-01-16 00:45:35] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: Cereal CONSPIRACY
[2017-01-16 00:45:40] anonymous123421 : I WANT MY SUGAR
[2017-01-16 00:45:57] anonymous123421 : I'M A GROWN ASS MAN WHO WANTS HIS SUGAR
[2017-01-16 00:46:31] rapidtrades : I should start a food company
[2017-01-16 00:46:55] rapidtrades : I'll just sell sugar and stuff...like 50% cereal with 50% sugar
[2017-01-16 00:47:08] rapidtrades : or 50% meat with 50% fat
[2017-01-16 00:47:16] rapidtrades : I'll call it the 50% club
[2017-01-16 00:47:34] Rado2 : rapidtrades: that will actually work
[2017-01-16 00:47:51] rapidtrades : the motto: 'Our customers die happy'
[2017-01-16 00:48:00] nOgAnOo : dead ass exchange
[2017-01-16 00:48:37] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: You should make a fast food chain that cooks everything in lard
[2017-01-16 00:49:21] nOgAnOo : DEADEX.COM
[2017-01-16 00:49:35] nOgAnOo : THE EXCHANGE WHERE DAYS GO BY WITHOUT AN ORDER BEING FILLED
[2017-01-16 00:49:58] rapidtrades : anonymous123421: yes
[2017-01-16 00:50:17] anonymous123421 : With extra salt and MSG
[2017-01-16 00:51:57] rapidtrades : ah yes salt
[2017-01-16 00:52:09] rapidtrades : they're trying to get rid of everything with a taste
[2017-01-16 00:52:29] rapidtrades : this is prolly wha the future will be like
[2017-01-16 00:53:08] rapidtrades : our grandkids with eat gluten free sugar free salt free cereal....ALL THE TIME
[2017-01-16 00:53:19] rapidtrades : breakfast, lunch and dinner
[2017-01-16 00:54:02] nOgAnOo : I sure hope you don't have grandchildren, rapidtrades
[2017-01-16 00:54:15] nOgAnOo : Lord Have Mercy on us
[2017-01-16 00:54:47] nOgAnOo : the problem is not sugar
[2017-01-16 00:54:54] nOgAnOo : it is cane sugar and HFCS