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[2017-01-14 23:07:09] nOgAnOo : such
[2017-01-14 23:07:11] Dtrade16 : TB: Nice, are you having success with your strategies?
[2017-01-14 23:07:25] Adriana : nOgAnOo: I love you too
[2017-01-14 23:07:41] BTCDJS : Adriana: I think he is a genius.
[2017-01-14 23:07:55] BTCDJS : But not sure about his ethics
[2017-01-14 23:08:06] Rado2 : Sqeeeeez
[2017-01-14 23:08:10] TB : Dtrade16: Yes, but its arbitrage
[2017-01-14 23:11:19] ayy_lmao : this is why you dont fomo
[2017-01-14 23:11:22] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-14 23:11:46] Dtrade16 : TB: Nice
[2017-01-14 23:12:42] Adriana : No short liquidations, impressive
[2017-01-14 23:12:46] ayy_lmao : yah
[2017-01-14 23:12:50] Dtrade16 : TB: How much would you want to code an arb or spread bot?
[2017-01-14 23:13:18] jonny : all below $800 nicely fits into one 30m bullish candle/hammer
[2017-01-14 23:13:19] TB : Dtrade16: I have a spreadbot
[2017-01-14 23:13:40] TB : I am working on a better arb bot
[2017-01-14 23:14:01] jonny : ..,even on okcoin
[2017-01-14 23:14:08] BTCDJS : Welp. Guess we are going back to 850
[2017-01-14 23:14:10] nOgAnOo : 100X NO LOOKING BACK
[2017-01-14 23:14:11] TB : Currently running the REST API, but need to move to websockets
[2017-01-14 23:14:15] Dtrade16 : TB: Are they profitable?
[2017-01-14 23:14:17] nOgAnOo : NO WHAMMIES
[2017-01-14 23:14:21] TB : Yes
[2017-01-14 23:14:37] Dtrade16 : TB: Consistently?
[2017-01-14 23:14:44] TB : Yes
[2017-01-14 23:15:20] Dtrade16 : TB: Would you consider renting me one?
[2017-01-14 23:15:40] Dtrade16 : Or coding one for me
[2017-01-14 23:15:41] TB : Dtrade16: Yeah, but only after I get the websocket implementation running
[2017-01-14 23:15:55] Dtrade16 : TB: Ok
[2017-01-14 23:16:08] TB : Should take me a week or two
[2017-01-14 23:19:44] TB : Dtrade16: Just dont get all your friends on the bandwagon, the more people running the same strat, the poorer it becomes
[2017-01-14 23:20:14] Dtrade16 : TB: Yah true
[2017-01-14 23:21:05] Dtrade16 : TB: How are you doing right now with the arb bot? Do you use both arb and spread?
[2017-01-14 23:21:29] dodic : Is a spread bot a market maker?
[2017-01-14 23:21:45] rapidtrades : maybe it is, maybe it isn't
[2017-01-14 23:21:50] rapidtrades : what's it to you?
[2017-01-14 23:22:08] dodic : I'm writing bots
[2017-01-14 23:22:20] dodic : learning
[2017-01-14 23:22:21] rapidtrades : maybe you are, maybe you aren't
[2017-01-14 23:22:23] dodic : haha
[2017-01-14 23:22:33] Tetsuo : it´s bitcoders not botwriters u fool
[2017-01-14 23:22:37] dodic : just a bfx lendbot right now
[2017-01-14 23:22:50] rapidtrades : maybe it is, maybe it isn't
[2017-01-14 23:23:18] dodic : what is anything really
[2017-01-14 23:23:28] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: r u fool?
[2017-01-14 23:23:43] Tetsuo : now is the time to be honest!
[2017-01-14 23:23:44] rapidtrades : no
[2017-01-14 23:23:49] Tetsuo : k
[2017-01-14 23:24:01] rapidtrades : are u a fool?
[2017-01-14 23:24:04] Tetsuo : ma
[2017-01-14 23:24:09] Tetsuo : no
[2017-01-14 23:24:15] rapidtrades : maybe you are, maybe you aren't
[2017-01-14 23:24:22] Tetsuo : ^^
[2017-01-14 23:24:29] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-14 23:24:53] TB : Dtrade16: I use the arb bot more often, it is the least risky strat
[2017-01-14 23:25:02] Tetsuo : maybe...
[2017-01-14 23:25:12] TB : You manage the strategies by allocating money to each
[2017-01-14 23:25:38] TB : dodic: One side is a market maker
[2017-01-14 23:25:42] TB : The other is a taker
[2017-01-14 23:25:54] Tetsuo : when china shuts down all your money is gone pooooof
[2017-01-14 23:26:09] Apocalyptic : TB: what markets are you MMing between ?
[2017-01-14 23:26:20] nOgAnOo : possible downward correction here?
[2017-01-14 23:26:25] rapidtrades : yeah arbs work until u get buttfinexed or chynaed
[2017-01-14 23:26:28] nOgAnOo : can't go up forever. :)
[2017-01-14 23:26:30] Tetsuo : Gox and BTC-E
[2017-01-14 23:26:31] TB : exchanges or markets
[2017-01-14 23:26:42] Apocalyptic : TB: arbing sorry
[2017-01-14 23:26:47] Apocalyptic : excanges
[2017-01-14 23:26:49] jonny : nOgAnOo: are you short?
[2017-01-14 23:26:56] TB : Buttfinex and this one
[2017-01-14 23:26:57] nOgAnOo : at the moment yes
[2017-01-14 23:27:03] nOgAnOo : taking profit at 807
[2017-01-14 23:27:12] TB : But you can use any exchange that allows you to margin 2x
[2017-01-14 23:27:16] rapidtrades : WHAT COULD GO WRONG WITH THAT ONE?
[2017-01-14 23:27:21] Tetsuo : did anyone here lose money on Gox trying to catch the upcmoing great arb opportunity
[2017-01-14 23:27:29] TB : Tetsuo: yes
[2017-01-14 23:27:32] Apocalyptic : TB: you don't fear for your funds at buttfinex ?
[2017-01-14 23:27:39] Tetsuo : here´s your next chance
[2017-01-14 23:27:45] nOgAnOo : just just broke the trend
[2017-01-14 23:27:46] nOgAnOo : down we go
[2017-01-14 23:28:01] TB : Apocalyptic: There is risk, but they just got broken, I think they will have their guard up for a year or so
[2017-01-14 23:28:23] TB : Gives me time to find another option with good liquidity
[2017-01-14 23:28:47] Dtrade16 : TB: nice
[2017-01-14 23:28:47] TB : The only very annoying thing about BitMex is the ADL
[2017-01-14 23:29:03] Apocalyptic : oh yeah
[2017-01-14 23:29:04] TB : It unhinges one side of the hedge
[2017-01-14 23:29:14] Apocalyptic : we all love ADL here, especially rapid
[2017-01-14 23:29:48] nOgAnOo : I lost my house because of ADL
[2017-01-14 23:30:07] TB : Yeah but you get free leverage
[2017-01-14 23:30:16] TB : That is a huge plus
[2017-01-14 23:30:19] nOgAnOo : It was an imaginary house but it was nice.
[2017-01-14 23:30:27] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-01-14 23:30:41] TB : nOgAnOo: Alphabay, get some better weed
[2017-01-14 23:30:54] nOgAnOo : I will.. after a couple more good trades
[2017-01-14 23:30:59] nOgAnOo : I'm at 0.0524 now
[2017-01-14 23:31:05] ysl : going down again
[2017-01-14 23:31:08] nOgAnOo : need 165 USD
[2017-01-14 23:31:28] PatrickBitman : Hi guys
[2017-01-14 23:31:37] nOgAnOo : 0.054 now
[2017-01-14 23:31:42] nOgAnOo : good trades
[2017-01-14 23:32:42] BTCDJS : ysl: What is?
[2017-01-14 23:33:35] ysl : BTCDJS: i think the price is
[2017-01-14 23:33:45] BTCDJS : ysl: Bitcoin?
[2017-01-14 23:33:57] nOgAnOo : Just went long at 807
[2017-01-14 23:34:00] ysl : BTCDJS: btc price
[2017-01-14 23:34:04] nOgAnOo : hope this isn't the big dump
[2017-01-14 23:34:10] BTCDJS : Wait for a red candle lol
[2017-01-14 23:34:20] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-14 23:35:02] aethlios : if we cross ema 200, will be hell in january movie.
[2017-01-14 23:35:14] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: looks like it wont last 2 days then
[2017-01-14 23:35:20] Dtrade16 : TB: Do you use a risk arbitrage?
[2017-01-14 23:35:21] MikeHunt : let alone 2 weeks
[2017-01-14 23:35:27] PatrickBitman : lol what makes you think emas mean anything
[2017-01-14 23:35:59] MikeHunt : PatrickBitman: back in college EMA made the difference between a BLT sandwich and being a starvin marvin at college
[2017-01-14 23:36:17] PatrickBitman : Aren't BLTs like $3
[2017-01-14 23:36:30] MikeHunt : PatrickBitman: 3 english pounds
[2017-01-14 23:37:08] TB : Dtrade16: ??
[2017-01-14 23:37:53] Dtrade16 : TB: There are several arb strategies, right?
[2017-01-14 23:38:49] TB : Dtrade16: Arbitrage is buying an asset on one exchange and selling it elsewhere higher, there is only one definition
[2017-01-14 23:39:09] TB : Bitcoin is competely transferable, you only have network cloggage
[2017-01-14 23:39:15] nOgAnOo : Liquidation price 777
[2017-01-14 23:39:15] MikeHunt : that might be harder since ChEna stopped leverage thing so less prem?
[2017-01-14 23:39:29] TB : I own some btc so I use the collateral to perform the other leg immediately
[2017-01-14 23:39:31] nOgAnOo : 20x leverage 1000 contracts
[2017-01-14 23:40:14] TB : You can leverage of course to enhance returns, but it increases your probability of ruin
[2017-01-14 23:40:31] TB : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruin_theory
[2017-01-14 23:41:03] nOgAnOo : I just market closed my long at same price I bought
[2017-01-14 23:41:12] nOgAnOo : got scared from new low
[2017-01-14 23:41:33] nOgAnOo : I'm real jumpy after losing 400 dollars
[2017-01-14 23:41:41] MikeHunt : it failed to correct so it cant continue the pump imo
[2017-01-14 23:41:45] birdie numn : nOgAnOo: thats right. lets go short together
[2017-01-14 23:41:45] Dtrade16 : TB: Yes sorry I was talking about something else
[2017-01-14 23:41:54] nOgAnOo : let's short bitcoin to hell
[2017-01-14 23:42:05] Dtrade16 : TB: Risk arb is like longing btc and shorting eth or alts
[2017-01-14 23:42:07] Dtrade16 : I think
[2017-01-14 23:42:16] MikeHunt : had the greedy cunts let it correct earlier we could have gone to 6k
[2017-01-14 23:42:23] TB : Dtrade16: Ok the correlation thing
[2017-01-14 23:43:05] TB : I don't like it, because the correlation varies based on market volatility
[2017-01-14 23:43:10] TB : Sometimes it lags
[2017-01-14 23:43:13] BTCDJS : Closing long going to sleep
[2017-01-14 23:43:24] BTCDJS : See what tomorrow brings
[2017-01-14 23:43:28] nOgAnOo : JUST GOT SOME NEW WEED
[2017-01-14 23:43:35] Dtrade16 : TB: Yes because less opportunity for riskless arb
[2017-01-14 23:43:35] nOgAnOo : "crystale"
[2017-01-14 23:43:43] Dtrade16 : TB: For someone not running a bot
[2017-01-14 23:43:43] nOgAnOo : top 10 for sure
[2017-01-14 23:43:48] Dtrade16 : TB: Know what I mean?
[2017-01-14 23:44:13] TB : Dtrade16: Yeah, I have looked at it before, but above my risk tolerance
[2017-01-14 23:44:18] Dtrade16 : TB: True
[2017-01-14 23:45:49] Dtrade16 : TB: Well if you're running a bot the common strategy makes more sense
[2017-01-14 23:46:06] TB : It is more patient than I, yes
[2017-01-14 23:46:22] Dtrade16 : TB: Are there a lot of opportunities?
[2017-01-14 23:47:48] TB : Dtrade16: No, it makes 40% p.a. but it does not lose money
[2017-01-14 23:49:11] Dtrade16 : TB: What do you mean?
[2017-01-14 23:49:55] jonny : +40% per year/anno
[2017-01-14 23:50:28] TB : per annum
[2017-01-14 23:50:31] TB : per year
[2017-01-14 23:50:37] Apocalyptic : that's great
[2017-01-14 23:51:04] TB : It's ok, I wish I had more capital
[2017-01-14 23:52:03] jonny : but profit percentage would decrease
[2017-01-14 23:52:26] TB : jonny: Sligtly, it does not trade a lot
[2017-01-14 23:52:27] Dtrade16 : TB: @jonny got it
[2017-01-14 23:53:50] TB : jonny: Also I cant pick up all the opportunities
[2017-01-14 23:54:04] TB : Once it hits max capital cap it stops until it realises the profit
[2017-01-14 23:55:30] aethlios : nice bounce to short
[2017-01-14 23:56:44] thedoc : yeah
[2017-01-14 23:56:51] thedoc : someone unloading a shit ton of btc in china
[2017-01-14 23:57:01] thedoc : must not know any buyers off exchanges that buy in bulk
[2017-01-14 23:58:06] jonny : TB: how little capital?
[2017-01-14 23:58:22] TB : 1 bitcoin
[2017-01-14 23:58:30] jonny : since when is it running?
[2017-01-14 23:58:41] TB : past 3 months
[2017-01-14 23:59:12] jonny : then i'd buy a copy too (and/or return feedback or enhancements)
[2017-01-15 00:00:01] TB : I'll set up a webserver on my rpi and run a threaded instance for you guys, but I'll take max 2 peeps
[2017-01-15 00:00:32] Dtrade16 : TB: I got first dibs :P
[2017-01-15 00:00:45] Dtrade16 : Me and jonny
[2017-01-15 00:01:01] TB : Cool, gonna sign off. Night guys
[2017-01-15 00:01:07] TB : and good luck trading
[2017-01-15 00:01:34] MikeHunt : TB: gn
[2017-01-15 00:01:48] jonny : yes im second in 2:)
[2017-01-15 00:01:50] jonny : take care
[2017-01-15 00:01:58] Dtrade16 : TB: later bro
[2017-01-15 00:04:18] nOgAnOo : I closed out at a loss that time
[2017-01-15 00:04:24] nOgAnOo : I'm tired.. that is a sign to stop trading
[2017-01-15 00:04:30] nOgAnOo : up 250% today
[2017-01-15 00:04:38] nOgAnOo : Good night all.
[2017-01-15 00:04:47] sleger : wow now you close at a loss before rekt knocks at your door !
[2017-01-15 00:04:51] birdie numn : good night
[2017-01-15 00:06:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 900 @ 5623.0
[2017-01-15 00:07:45] aethlios : china manipulators squeezing shorts
[2017-01-15 00:09:53] MrRGnome : These dips are sad and pathetic
[2017-01-15 00:10:02] MrRGnome : We need to dip now while we still can to get them cheap coins
[2017-01-15 00:10:37] jonny : MrRGnome: but im long 1000x and i deserve it
[2017-01-15 00:10:54] sleger : 1000x ? where ?
[2017-01-15 00:10:57] jonny : in mind
[2017-01-15 00:11:21] aethlios : how they make money reversing 100%???
[2017-01-15 00:13:20] sleger : scare people buy at discount, thanks for cheap coins shurters
[2017-01-15 00:17:11] nOgAnOo : i just took a small short
[2017-01-15 00:17:24] nOgAnOo : heading out to fix a computer now
[2017-01-15 00:22:15] jonny : nOgAnOo: set a stop loss?
[2017-01-15 00:25:13] thedoc : it's called a margin call
[2017-01-15 00:27:25] jonny : you mean liquidation?
[2017-01-15 00:28:01] jonny : are you affiliated to the bitmex insurance balance?;)
[2017-01-15 00:35:10] RoftheN : Nogano didn't you lose all your money like 4 times already, how come you still have money
[2017-01-15 00:36:21] ayy_lmao : steemit
[2017-01-15 00:36:23] MrRGnome : RoftheN: He keeps depositing more
[2017-01-15 00:36:35] RoftheN : Oh okay
[2017-01-15 00:56:25] shiroe : sideways before the drop. @_@
[2017-01-15 01:21:34] thedoc : maybe some buyers will show up
[2017-01-15 01:21:43] thedoc : i hear $820 bitcoins are in high demand
[2017-01-15 01:25:01] MikeHunt : i get the feeling we arent going down
[2017-01-15 01:25:06] MikeHunt : even though this is overbought
[2017-01-15 01:25:16] MikeHunt : or it could be a trick
[2017-01-15 01:36:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 47 @ 810.73
[2017-01-15 01:36:46] thedoc : someone trying to pump price above 5620 cny but someone isnt letting them
[2017-01-15 01:38:07] thedoc : xmr dumping
[2017-01-15 01:42:26] thedoc : damn
[2017-01-15 01:42:37] thedoc : didnt close my long and short the top
[2017-01-15 01:42:48] thedoc : please pump $7 again
[2017-01-15 01:42:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 80 @ 0.013097
[2017-01-15 01:43:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 2 @ 0.012941
[2017-01-15 01:44:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 50 @ 0.012936
[2017-01-15 01:45:46] nOgAnOo : sold too early!
[2017-01-15 01:46:02] nOgAnOo : still at 0.05
[2017-01-15 01:48:56] WarWarBanana : good time to buy
[2017-01-15 01:50:04] MikeHunt : WarWarBanana: before it flops?
[2017-01-15 01:50:25] Rado2 : nOgAnOo: I wish 0.1 for you today
[2017-01-15 01:50:32] WarWarBanana : MikeHunt: to save my ass
[2017-01-15 01:50:33] WarWarBanana : :D
[2017-01-15 01:50:44] MikeHunt : WarWarBanana: what's your current position?
[2017-01-15 01:51:23] WarWarBanana : MikeHunt: been x25 long the last two days. entry at 127
[2017-01-15 01:51:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 17987 @ 0.00000831
[2017-01-15 02:06:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 190 @ 0.001456
[2017-01-15 02:23:35] ayy_lmao : alts going to hell i see
[2017-01-15 02:23:36] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-15 02:25:39] jonny : only those for gamblers
[2017-01-15 02:28:21] ayy_lmao : yah just checked polo
[2017-01-15 02:28:25] ayy_lmao : barely even moving
[2017-01-15 02:38:36] nOgAnOo : I love you
[2017-01-15 02:38:47] nOgAnOo : You are very special
[2017-01-15 02:39:52] nOgAnOo : I think I'm done for the day
[2017-01-15 02:40:01] nOgAnOo : G'night all
[2017-01-15 02:40:25] Papou : If alts ain't pumping that means BTC is expected to pump
[2017-01-15 02:40:41] Papou : I think we rally to 888 USD
[2017-01-15 02:40:47] Papou : start approaching 1k
[2017-01-15 02:40:59] Papou : get your longs in cheap.
[2017-01-15 02:54:53] MikeHunt : looks well past its sell by date but still chucking...
[2017-01-15 02:54:57] MikeHunt : chugging
[2017-01-15 02:54:58] MikeHunt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIfzyYT1Oho
[2017-01-15 02:56:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XRP7D`: buy 100 @ 0.00000849
[2017-01-15 03:06:37] ayy_lmao : boring
[2017-01-15 03:08:02] Papou : Very
[2017-01-15 03:08:16] Papou : all of Sunday probably will be boring too
[2017-01-15 03:34:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 10000 @ 5572.9
[2017-01-15 03:37:18] Rado : sup pumks
[2017-01-15 03:51:18] ayy_lmao : biuncing
[2017-01-15 03:55:20] Rado : would love it to go a bit more
[2017-01-15 03:55:31] Rado : have sell orders at 820, 850 and 880
[2017-01-15 03:55:54] ayy_lmao : anything but sideways pls
[2017-01-15 04:11:20] Rado : going to be a slow climb until Monday
[2017-01-15 04:11:33] Rado : need to break 840
[2017-01-15 04:12:56] ayy_lmao : nice funding rate
[2017-01-15 04:34:43] nOgAnOo : HI
[2017-01-15 04:34:48] nOgAnOo : ANYONE AWAKE
[2017-01-15 04:36:41] jonny : nOgAnOo: hi
[2017-01-15 04:47:51] amirmass : time to take a X100 long
[2017-01-15 04:47:52] amirmass : i guess
[2017-01-15 04:49:51] jonny : amirmass: x10000
[2017-01-15 04:51:08] ayy_lmao : meh
[2017-01-15 04:53:43] ayy_lmao : rejected 5600
[2017-01-15 04:54:02] ayy_lmao : thought it was going to break tbh
[2017-01-15 04:57:09] Rado : meh is right
[2017-01-15 04:59:22] Rado : GDAX, itBit, Gemini and Kraken all over $820
[2017-01-15 05:01:01] nOgAnOo : Reveal your positions
[2017-01-15 05:03:24] micmix : nOgAnOo: -500k ;-)
[2017-01-15 05:03:51] nOgAnOo : you are down 500,000 dollars?
[2017-01-15 05:04:14] arbitrage101 : micmix: is this a hedge?
[2017-01-15 05:04:29] Rado : micmix: updated my bot to have dynamic spread and relist interval
[2017-01-15 05:04:36] Rado : finally ;-)
[2017-01-15 05:05:55] Rado : micmix: is your relist interval always the same as the spread?
[2017-01-15 05:06:19] micmix : 500k is not accurate of course but I hedged 80% of my coins, largest % I ever had
[2017-01-15 05:07:44] micmix : Rado: nice, dynamic spread helps
[2017-01-15 05:07:59] Rado : micmix: hedging sometimes might turn against you though
[2017-01-15 05:08:01] Rado : no?
[2017-01-15 05:09:11] Rado2 : do you hedge with futures only?
[2017-01-15 05:09:45] micmix : Rado: what do you mean by relist interval?
[2017-01-15 05:09:58] Rado : when to change your orders
[2017-01-15 05:10:07] Rado : after a certain change in price
[2017-01-15 05:10:21] Rado : if you change them to fast they do not get filled
[2017-01-15 05:10:38] micmix : ah ok, I don't have a predefined interval, only min order rest time
[2017-01-15 05:11:09] Rado : rest time like in seconds/minutes?
[2017-01-15 05:11:25] Rado : and if the time is over you recalculate
[2017-01-15 05:12:07] micmix : it's the min time the order has to be on the book until I can amend/cancel it
[2017-01-15 05:12:19] Rado : right
[2017-01-15 05:12:49] Rado : similar concept, but different
[2017-01-15 05:13:11] micmix : orders deeper in the book can rest longer, orders on top are amended faster
[2017-01-15 05:13:23] Rado : yep
[2017-01-15 05:13:48] Rado : but is it possible that you have the best ask and you change your order because the new calculation has a new price?
[2017-01-15 05:14:02] micmix : my algos are event-driven, so there is no loop with a predefined interval
[2017-01-15 05:14:24] micmix : yes, of course
[2017-01-15 05:14:56] Rado : how do you check the current price?
[2017-01-15 05:15:02] Rado : on what type of event
[2017-01-15 05:15:18] Rado : trades?
[2017-01-15 05:15:58] micmix : there is no such thing as "current price". there is a last trade price, best bid/ask price, mid price, index price, mark price etc.
[2017-01-15 05:16:21] Rado : right
[2017-01-15 05:16:37] Rado : so how do you know there was a trade?
[2017-01-15 05:17:09] Rado : if you are not checking regularly
[2017-01-15 05:17:29] micmix : trades and orderbook data come from ws stream
[2017-01-15 05:17:47] Rado : of course
[2017-01-15 05:17:48] Rado : duh
[2017-01-15 05:17:59] proofOfTwerk : i'm getting an error saying orderBook not subscribed
[2017-01-15 05:18:04] proofOfTwerk : where do i subscribe?
[2017-01-15 05:18:08] Rado : so on a change of the last price you can invoke an action
[2017-01-15 05:18:47] Rado : proofOfTwerk: to the order book channel?
[2017-01-15 05:20:14] micmix : I recalculate what's needed (update the model) on any change in data, and might amend/cancel the orders depending on the results of the calculations
[2017-01-15 05:20:47] Rado : yes, that is the best
[2017-01-15 05:21:03] arbitrage101 : event driven also run on loop
[2017-01-15 05:21:03] Rado : I might get there some day :-)
[2017-01-15 05:21:17] Rado : arbitrage101: nope
[2017-01-15 05:21:25] arbitrage101 : everything is inherently interval driven
[2017-01-15 05:21:56] Rado : arbitrage101: I booked my place for Kuala Lumpur
[2017-01-15 05:22:08] Rado : next to the petronas towers
[2017-01-15 05:22:09] arbitrage101 : Rado: any plan here?
[2017-01-15 05:22:22] Rado : I will be there March 5 - 12
[2017-01-15 05:22:31] arbitrage101 : our country trying to sell the tower to china
[2017-01-15 05:22:48] Rado : shoot them when they come to buy it
[2017-01-15 05:22:49] Rado : ;-)
[2017-01-15 05:22:58] arbitrage101 : losing money tower
[2017-01-15 05:23:03] arbitrage101 : not sure why anyone would buy
[2017-01-15 05:23:23] Rado : where should I go when there?
[2017-01-15 05:23:32] arbitrage101 : maybe they can get money taking off the the owner's hand lol
[2017-01-15 05:23:40] Rado : anything must see?
[2017-01-15 05:23:50] arbitrage101 : Rado: not sure
[2017-01-15 05:24:01] arbitrage101 : obviously, avoid shopping mall
[2017-01-15 05:24:12] arbitrage101 : beach, mountain
[2017-01-15 05:24:16] Rado : we hate shopping
[2017-01-15 05:24:21] arbitrage101 : genting highland
[2017-01-15 05:24:28] arbitrage101 : camelon highland
[2017-01-15 05:24:31] arbitrage101 : penang, lankawi
[2017-01-15 05:24:42] Rado : cool
[2017-01-15 05:25:05] Rado : we were thinking one of penang or lankawi
[2017-01-15 05:25:10] Rado : which one would be better?
[2017-01-15 05:25:18] arbitrage101 : both are near by
[2017-01-15 05:25:24] arbitrage101 : should visit both
[2017-01-15 05:25:44] Rado : ok
[2017-01-15 05:25:59] Rado : what is camelon highland?
[2017-01-15 05:26:37] arbitrage101 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Highlands_District
[2017-01-15 05:26:42] arbitrage101 : this is a little off course
[2017-01-15 05:26:57] arbitrage101 : need a day extra just to visit it
[2017-01-15 05:27:23] Rado : my wife said she knows about it
[2017-01-15 05:27:28] Rado : thanks
[2017-01-15 05:27:43] arbitrage101 : your wife is westerner or asian?
[2017-01-15 05:28:05] Rado : Eastern Europe
[2017-01-15 05:28:06] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-15 05:28:12] arbitrage101 : not that suprise
[2017-01-15 05:28:29] Rado : are you close to city center?
[2017-01-15 05:28:33] arbitrage101 : marriage rarely last for western girl
[2017-01-15 05:28:43] Rado : should meet for beer or coffee
[2017-01-15 05:28:51] arbitrage101 : 30 mins drive to city center
[2017-01-15 05:28:56] arbitrage101 : but i rarely go there
[2017-01-15 05:29:10] arbitrage101 : food is westernized
[2017-01-15 05:29:16] arbitrage101 : local dont eat
[2017-01-15 05:29:17] Rado : ha ha
[2017-01-15 05:29:34] Rado : where is the best food?
[2017-01-15 05:29:57] arbitrage101 : have to eat like local
[2017-01-15 05:30:11] Rado : we both love Malaysian food
[2017-01-15 05:30:12] arbitrage101 : outskirt, not city center
[2017-01-15 05:30:23] arbitrage101 : there is a reason malaysian are fat
[2017-01-15 05:31:27] micmix : Rado: be careful with Malaysian food >Catalan (Radó): nickname for a fat person, variant of Rodó, from a derivative of Latin rotundus 'round'
[2017-01-15 05:31:50] Rado : he he
[2017-01-15 05:31:52] Rado : nice one micmix
[2017-01-15 05:35:33] Rado : http://bitcoincity.info/
[2017-01-15 05:42:42] Rado : micmix: there is no real time volatility index
[2017-01-15 05:42:52] Rado : I am thinking of creating one for XBTUSD
[2017-01-15 05:45:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 10000 @ 5541.4
[2017-01-15 05:46:19] lockhedge : Rado: real-time volatility index is a mission impossible, you can measure 10 seconds volatility or something like that
[2017-01-15 05:46:38] Rado : that will do
[2017-01-15 05:47:06] Rado : even if it's 30 sec
[2017-01-15 05:47:12] Rado : much better than every 5 min
[2017-01-15 05:47:58] micmix : Rado: volatility measurements is actually a big topic in statistics, it's not trivial
[2017-01-15 05:48:49] Rado : do you know how is VIX calculated?
[2017-01-15 05:49:02] Apocalyptic : micmix: do you use advanced stats in your MM decision model ?
[2017-01-15 05:49:04] Rado : we basically need VIX for BTC
[2017-01-15 05:51:20] micmix : I use stats, and advanced
[2017-01-15 05:51:31] micmix : means different things to different people
[2017-01-15 05:51:38] Rado : lockhedge: @micmix
[2017-01-15 05:52:00] Rado : how many days of consistent running until I up my size?
[2017-01-15 05:54:57] lockhedge : Rado: i wouldn't increase my risk level in the current market environment. so if you aren't sure, better not yet
[2017-01-15 05:55:21] micmix : who knows, I do backtesting on periods with different volatility and trends
[2017-01-15 05:55:22] BitMEX_Wally : Rado: If you look at our API you can subscribe to `.BVOL10M` which updates every minute
[2017-01-15 05:55:42] Rado : ha
[2017-01-15 05:55:48] Rado : was this listed BitMEX_Wally?
[2017-01-15 05:55:55] micmix : agree with lockhedge, now it's not the time
[2017-01-15 05:56:03] Rado : I am using .BVOL24H
[2017-01-15 05:56:15] Rado : micmix: @lockhedge thanks
[2017-01-15 05:56:29] BitMEX_Wally : `.BVOL24H` is daily vol calculated over 24 hours, published every 5 minutes
[2017-01-15 05:56:36] Rado : I am running just with 100 contracts because I had a lot of code to finish
[2017-01-15 05:56:46] BitMEX_Wally : `.BVOL10M` is 10 minute vol calculated over 10 minutes, published every minute
[2017-01-15 05:56:47] Rado : now done and might go back up to my 500
[2017-01-15 05:57:08] Rado : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks, I will switch to that
[2017-01-15 05:57:17] micmix : Afaik .BVOL10M uses only 10 samples (1 every minute), please correct me if I wrong @BitMEX_Wally
[2017-01-15 05:57:30] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Correct
[2017-01-15 05:57:56] BitMEX_Wally : `.BVOL10M` is unofficially pushed out because one of our market makers asked for it
[2017-01-15 05:58:00] Rado2 : micmix: but .BVOL24H is every 10 in
[2017-01-15 05:58:13] nOgAnOo : Good morning Wally
[2017-01-15 05:58:18] BitMEX_Wally : `.BVOL24H` is every 5 minutes based on 5 minute samples
[2017-01-15 05:58:44] micmix : 10 samples for 10 minutes is just not enough imho. I would strongly recommend using your own volatility calculations based on realtime trade data
[2017-01-15 05:58:52] BitMEX_Wally : `.BVOL10M` is a 10 minute vol, `.BVOL30M` is a 30 minute vol but expressed in units of 10 minute vol
[2017-01-15 05:59:08] BitMEX_Wally : `.BVOL1H` is 60 minute vol expressed in units of 10 minute vol
[2017-01-15 06:00:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 808.35
[2017-01-15 06:00:40] ayy_lmao : finally
[2017-01-15 06:00:44] shiroe : damn 6/4/2/1hr chart going down.
[2017-01-15 06:00:53] ayy_lmao : fucck that slow grind
[2017-01-15 06:01:04] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: I agree
[2017-01-15 06:01:11] ayy_lmao : lets go
[2017-01-15 06:01:34] nOgAnOo : hmm
[2017-01-15 06:01:36] nOgAnOo : I missed the ride
[2017-01-15 06:04:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 400 @ 805.49
[2017-01-15 06:05:44] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: BTW, I noticed that instruments are re-listed every two hours now. Are you doing it for performance reasons? Just curious...
[2017-01-15 06:06:23] Rado : micmix: you said it's hard to create a real time index, but I can do my own calculation easy?
[2017-01-15 06:07:42] j8 : VIX is implied volatility calculated from options markets. since we don't have options the best you can do is short term historical volatility
[2017-01-15 06:08:19] j8 : which is why it can't be instantaneous
[2017-01-15 06:09:56] micmix : Rado: public index or internal calculation doesn't matter, I was just saying that measuring volatility is a big topic. As @j8 said, any volatility index will have lag. Ideally you would want to detect when volatility regime changes, it's even more important
[2017-01-15 06:10:56] Rado2 : micmix: change is important, but I also want to use it to set my spread or back off when it increases
[2017-01-15 06:11:38] Rado2 : j8: if you record the last N last prices you can do realtime calculation
[2017-01-15 06:12:16] j8 : yeah you can update your index as often as you want, but it still lags
[2017-01-15 06:12:59] j8 : that's not really a problem but it's something to be aware of
[2017-01-15 06:13:12] Rado : yes
[2017-01-15 06:16:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7000 @ 805.24
[2017-01-15 06:16:41] BitMEX_Wally : micmix: Yes we dropped the session interval down from 8 hours to 2 hours which helps some of our archive processes. It should have no impact on trading
[2017-01-15 06:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 25 @ 803.42
[2017-01-15 06:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15350 @ 803.93
[2017-01-15 06:20:17] KingTuna : Is there anyway to login quickly from your smart phone to Bitmex? When I'm watching the market and I see an opportunity, I have to login pretty quick, and sometimes it's takes too long with entering details/google authenticator, email address and password
[2017-01-15 06:20:38] KingTuna : I like to trade not he go sometimes, can be fiddly from a phone
[2017-01-15 06:20:43] KingTuna : the*
[2017-01-15 06:20:54] ayy_lmao : you can change session duration in settings
[2017-01-15 06:21:07] KingTuna : ayy_lmao: Ok thanks that could be a start
[2017-01-15 06:21:28] ayy_lmao : i think its "Safe Session Duration"
[2017-01-15 06:21:46] BitMEX_Wally : KingTuna: You can also turn off Strict IP pinning, because mobile phones change their IP address a lot on mobile networks
[2017-01-15 06:21:48] ayy_lmao : just read what it does b4 tho
[2017-01-15 06:22:16] BitMEX_Wally : The other option is to enable Clef as 2FA, then you do not need to enter a password or email address, etc
[2017-01-15 06:22:37] KingTuna : BitMEX_Wally: Sounds the best option. Is that an app I need to download?
[2017-01-15 06:23:03] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, that's what I thought. 2 hour session is not a problem, just have to take that into account when comparing historical session data
[2017-01-15 06:43:52] Apocalyptic : @micmix: by advanced I meant something like math college grad level
[2017-01-15 06:44:50] micmix : Apocalyptic: Well it's advanced I guess ;-)
[2017-01-15 06:47:03] Apocalyptic : in before we learn that micmix write bots for GS or Citadel for a living :)
[2017-01-15 06:56:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 7 @ 808.72
[2017-01-15 07:41:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 20 @ 0.012210
[2017-01-15 07:45:05] KyllingLolsson : dooooown
[2017-01-15 07:45:54] ayy_lmao : lowest volume dump ever
[2017-01-15 07:46:36] Dtrade16 : Good time to long?
[2017-01-15 07:47:07] MikeHunt : im holding position
[2017-01-15 07:47:11] MikeHunt : we are under MA200
[2017-01-15 07:47:20] MikeHunt : dumps so far have been crap
[2017-01-15 07:47:34] KyllingLolsson : patience...
[2017-01-15 07:47:45] KyllingLolsson : not time to long anyhow
[2017-01-15 07:48:07] MikeHunt : KyllingLolsson: u shorting?
[2017-01-15 07:48:31] KyllingLolsson : yep, since 824
[2017-01-15 07:48:38] KyllingLolsson : on march 31
[2017-01-15 07:48:59] Dtrade16 : So you guys are all short?
[2017-01-15 07:49:08] KingTuna : Im 5'6 yes
[2017-01-15 07:49:10] MikeHunt : shorted some of it but just waiting atm
[2017-01-15 07:49:24] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: Nice lol
[2017-01-15 07:49:26] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-15 07:49:37] KingTuna : This has to go below $800 again..
[2017-01-15 07:49:52] KyllingLolsson : MikeHunt: My stop limit is 778
[2017-01-15 07:50:14] ayy_lmao : this sideways dumping so annoying
[2017-01-15 07:50:36] ayy_lmao : dump retrace dump retrace ...
[2017-01-15 07:51:13] MikeHunt : btcc said that no leverage will probably mean lower btc prices
[2017-01-15 07:51:16] MikeHunt : but less volatility
[2017-01-15 07:51:29] Dtrade16 : We're trending down on the 1 day?
[2017-01-15 07:51:33] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-15 07:52:19] Dtrade16 : Or not yet?
[2017-01-15 07:52:53] MikeHunt : in nearly 12 hours we'll be back where we started
[2017-01-15 07:54:03] ayy_lmao : prob
[2017-01-15 07:55:04] MikeHunt : nearly 2 hours back where we started in past 12 hrs *
[2017-01-15 07:57:14] KyllingLolsson : can't we just force it to dump
[2017-01-15 07:58:14] MikeHunt : apparently we may see gradual decline to the mean
[2017-01-15 07:58:18] MikeHunt : pre-china fake volume
[2017-01-15 07:58:24] MikeHunt : ~560
[2017-01-15 07:58:45] MikeHunt : maybe less
[2017-01-15 08:00:52] KyllingLolsson : i think 700 is pretty good goal, about where the 200 ema is on the daily chart
[2017-01-15 08:01:24] KyllingLolsson : maybe 630 if it just flash-dumps
[2017-01-15 08:01:37] KyllingLolsson : then key reversal day
[2017-01-15 08:03:33] Apocalyptic : looks like a fake pump
[2017-01-15 08:07:04] KyllingLolsson : yeah, really weak pump... bulls in denial
[2017-01-15 08:07:26] MikeHunt : weak dumps as well thou
[2017-01-15 08:07:27] MikeHunt : hmm
[2017-01-15 08:07:56] KyllingLolsson : yeah, but the real dump will come...
[2017-01-15 08:08:08] Dtrade16 : KyllingLolsson: What makes you say that?
[2017-01-15 08:09:08] KyllingLolsson : we're uynder the 100 ema on the daily chart... it didn't make it trough about six hours ago... But how far we will dump i don't know.
[2017-01-15 08:09:46] KyllingLolsson : or rather,, yesterday didnt make it trough
[2017-01-15 08:10:15] Dtrade16 : true
[2017-01-15 08:16:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 10000 @ 5489.4
[2017-01-15 08:16:48] MikeHunt : lot of volume on okc trying to keep this up
[2017-01-15 08:18:14] KingTuna : fucking die already LOL
[2017-01-15 08:20:54] Dtrade16 : What do you guys think of ZEC?
[2017-01-15 08:21:00] Dtrade16 : Everyone shorting that?
[2017-01-15 08:21:14] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: zionistcash?
[2017-01-15 08:21:22] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Lol yah