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[2017-01-14 18:06:21] aethlios : arbitrage101: you can sell spot but with 100 btc there can hedge 330.
[2017-01-14 18:06:59] aethlios : kraken is 0.06% both usd btc.
[2017-01-14 18:07:22] arbitrage101 : kraken now offer p2p lending?
[2017-01-14 18:07:30] arbitrage101 : or just borrowing
[2017-01-14 18:07:46] aethlios : kraken the exchange borrows you.
[2017-01-14 18:07:52] arbitrage101 : i see
[2017-01-14 18:07:54] aethlios : lends you i mean
[2017-01-14 18:10:24] aethlios : sleger: problem is with btc going down no arb interest available.
[2017-01-14 18:11:11] arbitrage101 : aethlios: are you sure?
[2017-01-14 18:11:19] arbitrage101 : i was long here a couple days ago
[2017-01-14 18:11:28] arbitrage101 : when price here is 20-25 dollars cheaper
[2017-01-14 18:12:00] j8 : betting on the futures curve is not arbitrage
[2017-01-14 18:12:10] arbitrage101 : not future
[2017-01-14 18:12:15] arbitrage101 : the swap
[2017-01-14 18:12:51] arbitrage101 : actually, betting on future curve should be considered arbitrage if it is 100% hedge
[2017-01-14 18:13:12] j8 : you can sell spot and buy the swap when it's at a discount, but you're still long btc
[2017-01-14 18:13:26] arbitrage101 : which you can short at finex
[2017-01-14 18:13:38] arbitrage101 : or other place
[2017-01-14 18:13:48] arbitrage101 : shess, talk too much ..
[2017-01-14 18:13:55] j8 : i agree that cash and carry with futures is arbitrage but only if you hold until expiry
[2017-01-14 18:14:16] arbitrage101 : can close when the curve flatten
[2017-01-14 18:14:22] arbitrage101 : or becoming flatten
[2017-01-14 18:14:28] j8 : if you short at finex then you're exposed to variable rates there
[2017-01-14 18:14:42] arbitrage101 : there are trick on finex lending
[2017-01-14 18:14:54] arbitrage101 : i am sure some got warning doing it when logging in
[2017-01-14 18:15:02] arbitrage101 : last week
[2017-01-14 18:15:23] arbitrage101 : again, cant keep my mouth shut
[2017-01-14 18:15:27] arbitrage101 : bad habit ..
[2017-01-14 18:16:54] arbitrage101 : pretty much same trading between finex variable rate and fix vs variable rate here
[2017-01-14 18:17:09] arbitrage101 : there are always some tricks to exploit
[2017-01-14 18:18:07] j8 : and finex isn't even in the index so there's also risk there
[2017-01-14 18:18:27] arbitrage101 : which actually gives more opportunity
[2017-01-14 18:18:47] arbitrage101 : there were discount price here, and long were getting high funding here
[2017-01-14 18:19:33] j8 : sure, there's lots of opportunity. no point arguing semantics. i was long the swap for a couple days also
[2017-01-14 18:19:51] arbitrage101 : yea, maybe we should shut up
[2017-01-14 18:19:59] arbitrage101 : when too many people do it, profit disappear
[2017-01-14 18:20:25] aethlios : arbitrage101: keep your strategies private or else will stop being your strategies.
[2017-01-14 18:21:33] j8 : there's no clear arb right now anyway.
[2017-01-14 18:22:03] arbitrage101 : when price is close and index is mess up, of course
[2017-01-14 18:22:15] arbitrage101 : but when price gap is 20-30 dollars
[2017-01-14 18:22:22] arbitrage101 : i will bet my house
[2017-01-14 18:22:54] sleger : and the gap will become 50$ and I will own your house and then the gap will go back to 0 but you'll be rekt before
[2017-01-14 18:23:08] arbitrage101 : good thing i dont use much leverage
[2017-01-14 18:23:56] BTCDJS : Thanks for all the info guys. Im going to do it and tell all my friends
[2017-01-14 18:24:36] arbitrage101 : BTCDJS: enjoy the new strategy
[2017-01-14 18:25:21] BTCDJS : lol. Just kidding
[2017-01-14 18:29:12] j8 : it's not exactly rocket surgery
[2017-01-14 18:31:11] aethlios : magic finance!!
[2017-01-14 18:34:31] rapidtrades : f*cking women
[2017-01-14 18:34:53] rapidtrades : i came in for 1 she drilled into 2 teeth
[2017-01-14 18:35:38] BTCDJS : two for 1 deal
[2017-01-14 18:35:41] rapidtrades : she didn't even put a temp on the right one
[2017-01-14 18:45:36] sleger : brush your teeth
[2017-01-14 18:46:02] rapidtrades : tnx brah, doesn't help me now does it?
[2017-01-14 18:48:15] sleger : will help you in the future
[2017-01-14 18:48:23] sleger : also for when you talk to girls
[2017-01-14 18:48:40] arbitrage101 : sleger: any tips?
[2017-01-14 18:48:43] BTCDJS : he doesnt talk to girls
[2017-01-14 18:48:52] arbitrage101 : when do girls always block me after our first date
[2017-01-14 18:49:03] BTCDJS : if he did he would brush his teeth
[2017-01-14 18:49:46] sleger : arbitrage101: try to send a friend instead, see if that works
[2017-01-14 18:50:04] arbitrage101 : sleger: send a friend?
[2017-01-14 18:50:11] sleger : to the date
[2017-01-14 18:50:14] sleger : instead of you
[2017-01-14 18:51:34] sleger : If I open a new unverified finex account, deposit btc, trade, can i withdraw the coinz easily or they might ask me to verify ?
[2017-01-14 18:51:52] arbitrage101 : easily
[2017-01-14 18:52:04] arbitrage101 : dont deal with bank and bank transfer
[2017-01-14 18:52:08] arbitrage101 : and you will be fine
[2017-01-14 18:52:23] sleger : i saw some contradicting stuff on bitcointalk
[2017-01-14 18:52:43] arbitrage101 : make sure your girlfriend of parents know your 2-factor auth for finex
[2017-01-14 18:52:55] arbitrage101 : in case you get hit by bus and no one can proof you own the account
[2017-01-14 18:53:29] sleger : if the bus drives on my phone as well they wont be able to do anything
[2017-01-14 18:53:47] arbitrage101 : have to take care of that too, i guess
[2017-01-14 18:55:59] Tetsuo : will the PBOC make Bitcoin great again?
[2017-01-14 18:56:26] rapidtrades : no it will not
[2017-01-14 18:56:35] Tetsuo : thought so
[2017-01-14 18:59:09] Rado : Tetsuo: where have you been punk?
[2017-01-14 18:59:45] Tetsuo : SEA :-)
[2017-01-14 19:00:08] Rado : you should have come visit me
[2017-01-14 19:00:22] Tetsuo : where do u live?
[2017-01-14 19:00:27] rapidtrades : I looked up the doc I have appointment with and he's a kid
[2017-01-14 19:00:37] rapidtrades : so my choice is between a LADY or a kid
[2017-01-14 19:00:42] rapidtrades : wtf world
[2017-01-14 19:00:46] Tetsuo : below 14y?
[2017-01-14 19:00:59] rapidtrades : no, some dipshit younger then me
[2017-01-14 19:00:59] sleger : says the guy coming back from SEA
[2017-01-14 19:01:01] Rado : Vancouvet
[2017-01-14 19:01:15] Tetsuo : dude that´s cold
[2017-01-14 19:01:42] Rado : I thought SEA is Seattle
[2017-01-14 19:02:03] rapidtrades : do I go with the 35-45y woman or 30y kid
[2017-01-14 19:02:10] Tetsuo : SouthEastAsia
[2017-01-14 19:02:22] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: the kid
[2017-01-14 19:02:26] rapidtrades : ah
[2017-01-14 19:02:46] premium_freak : now the name makes sense
[2017-01-14 19:03:04] nOgAnOo : nice time to be short
[2017-01-14 19:03:10] nOgAnOo : yay
[2017-01-14 19:03:25] nOgAnOo : next stop 88 pesos
[2017-01-14 19:03:33] premium_freak : nOgAnOo: I'm afraid it's going to be mostly sideways for a while
[2017-01-14 19:03:50] nOgAnOo : yeah I been watching this boringness for hours
[2017-01-14 19:04:09] premium_freak : not worth doing much right now.. at least not for me
[2017-01-14 19:04:25] rapidtrades : premium_freak: wont be sideways once china opens on monday
[2017-01-14 19:04:30] rapidtrades : SHIT'S GONNA GET REKTED
[2017-01-14 19:04:37] rapidtrades : CABOOM
[2017-01-14 19:04:39] rapidtrades : BLAM
[2017-01-14 19:04:42] rapidtrades : SPLASH
[2017-01-14 19:04:57] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: really?
[2017-01-14 19:05:03] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: wouldnt it be another pump?
[2017-01-14 19:05:07] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: no
[2017-01-14 19:05:19] MikeHunt : what makes it different this time?
[2017-01-14 19:05:27] Tetsuo : i´m pretty sure that huobi and okcoin are innocent(lol)
[2017-01-14 19:05:30] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: yes
[2017-01-14 19:05:34] BTCDJS : WRONG
[2017-01-14 19:06:08] MikeHunt : u think pboc gonna strik again on monday?
[2017-01-14 19:06:20] BTCDJS : They made a massive deal about it. But it wasnt that dramatic.
[2017-01-14 19:07:02] Tetsuo : they just closed leverage and futures to all chinese
[2017-01-14 19:07:19] Tetsuo : i would call that dramatic
[2017-01-14 19:07:25] BTCDJS : futures still going
[2017-01-14 19:07:32] BTCDJS : I think
[2017-01-14 19:07:32] MikeHunt : when they said that everyone pumped
[2017-01-14 19:07:44] Dtrade16 : Sup guys
[2017-01-14 19:07:50] Dtrade16 : News seems positive to me
[2017-01-14 19:08:02] nOgAnOo : hi
[2017-01-14 19:08:06] Dtrade16 : They stopped bs fake volume trading
[2017-01-14 19:08:17] thailand : whole thing doesn't determine direction. Just means it will either rise more slowly or drop more slowly with less leverage lol
[2017-01-14 19:08:18] premium_freak : they still trade at 0% fee, no?
[2017-01-14 19:08:29] Dtrade16 : Because investors were getting cleaned out by the exchanges
[2017-01-14 19:08:34] jonny : Tetsuo: im pretty sure btcc is worst too, but also much smaller and a lot of other chinese volume may be fake too, bitstamp chart still makes me predict best
[2017-01-14 19:08:43] Dtrade16 : Now confidence is restored and more Chinese will rush in
[2017-01-14 19:08:51] Dtrade16 : Retail investors
[2017-01-14 19:08:58] jonny : Dtrade16: why
[2017-01-14 19:09:00] Dtrade16 : It's going to pump imo and pump hard
[2017-01-14 19:09:16] Dtrade16 : Just my opinion though
[2017-01-14 19:09:18] rullwull : I've been told by chinese friends that there is a rumour in china that gov will leave only one exchange and it will be huobi
[2017-01-14 19:09:34] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-01-14 19:09:36] jonny : huobi <3 <3
[2017-01-14 19:10:07] Ahhere : rullwull: I was told santa claus is real
[2017-01-14 19:10:22] MikeHunt : atm it loooks like december pump
[2017-01-14 19:10:26] MikeHunt : the pattern looks similar
[2017-01-14 19:10:40] birdie numn : doesnt that kinda fit into chinas state fueled economy model?
[2017-01-14 19:10:46] nOgAnOo : ur face is a similar pattern
[2017-01-14 19:10:46] rullwull : Ahhere: of course santa is real
[2017-01-14 19:11:13] Dtrade16 : jonny: why what?
[2017-01-14 19:11:28] Tetsuo : spread the message
[2017-01-14 19:11:28] Tetsuo : huobi ❤ ❤
[2017-01-14 19:11:29] Tetsuo : huobi ❤ ❤
[2017-01-14 19:11:30] Tetsuo : huobi ❤ ❤
[2017-01-14 19:11:30] Tetsuo : huobi ❤ ❤
[2017-01-14 19:11:31] Tetsuo : huobi ❤ ❤
[2017-01-14 19:12:03] jonny : @Dtrade16 nvm read your previous messages later
[2017-01-14 19:15:36] jonny : only thing unexpected at huobi was, that while they ask everyone for kyc/passport verification, you can already deposit btc before reading that (but then need to do that before withdraw)
[2017-01-14 19:16:36] Tetsuo : its just for your safety
[2017-01-14 19:23:01] jonny : do you guys believe it is possible that the tiping point deciding direction of the next $50 could be pretty nothing. For example caused by just a single order or motivational troll message?
[2017-01-14 19:26:30] Tetsuo : do not underestimate the trolls power
[2017-01-14 19:26:52] jonny : yes, serious question
[2017-01-14 19:26:54] jonny : :)
[2017-01-14 19:27:12] jonny : let me try
[2017-01-14 19:27:31] jonny : ATH! ATH! ATH! MOON MANY WOW
[2017-01-14 19:27:42] EasyChanges : what do you think about btc ? it will raise ?
[2017-01-14 19:28:19] jonny : yes, japanese people are pumping billions, probably
[2017-01-14 19:28:27] jonny : HURRY ATH ATH ATH
[2017-01-14 19:32:24] Tetsuo : so what are thhe official betting odds right now,
[2017-01-14 19:32:39] thailand : 10:1
[2017-01-14 19:32:59] Tetsuo : so china will shut them all down
[2017-01-14 19:33:08] Tetsuo : it is confirmed
[2017-01-14 19:33:28] sleger : assuming bitcoin price follows a brownian motion there is more than 50% chance that it goes down
[2017-01-14 19:33:36] jonny : Tetsuo: link?
[2017-01-14 19:34:10] Tetsuo : V
[2017-01-14 19:34:54] jonny : :P
[2017-01-14 19:34:59] jonny : silly
[2017-01-14 19:35:09] Adriana : guys, don't forget to buy ETH
[2017-01-14 19:35:22] sleger : and ETC !
[2017-01-14 19:35:26] Tetsuo : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
[2017-01-14 19:35:46] Tetsuo : PBOC WILL SOON SUPPORT ETC
[2017-01-14 19:36:24] Tetsuo : not infiltrated by westerns spies
[2017-01-14 19:37:04] jonny : iwanted the source for shutting down;)
[2017-01-14 19:37:31] sleger : you only get what you need
[2017-01-14 19:37:34] sleger : and not what you want
[2017-01-14 19:41:57] jonny : no
[2017-01-14 19:43:18] jonny : what about going 200 bitcoins short on XBTUSD but 200 bitcoins long on march 31. They are the same price and your may earn 50% funding rates until april.
[2017-01-14 19:43:56] sleger : you may pay 50% funding rates
[2017-01-14 19:44:51] jonny : only if mood would turn negative most of the time
[2017-01-14 19:46:36] sleger : which will happen if price goes down
[2017-01-14 19:46:44] Tetsuo : ^^
[2017-01-14 19:46:58] Adriana : I think the price difference between BTC, ETH and XMR should eventually become similar to gold, platinum and palladium
[2017-01-14 19:47:06] sleger : so your trade makes money if btc goes up, loses if it goes down, basically you just made up a fcuked up way to be long btc ? @jonny
[2017-01-14 19:47:13] Tetsuo : moments before an animal stops breathing
[2017-01-14 19:49:40] jonny : sleger: it is a long on mood/sentiment , completely independent of price. it wont be sustainable for those people but it is possible that the mood is positive but trend not or the otherway around
[2017-01-14 19:49:58] sleger : i dont think so
[2017-01-14 19:50:04] TB : sleger: he is beting the spread would widen
[2017-01-14 19:50:07] sleger : "mood"= btc price
[2017-01-14 19:50:14] sleger : TB: no he's not
[2017-01-14 19:50:24] TB : at a premium
[2017-01-14 19:50:31] jonny : that too
[2017-01-14 19:50:36] premium_freak : jonny: are you suggesting to go short btc using the perpetual swap @ bitmex?
[2017-01-14 19:50:59] jonny : and long in the march31 future , at the same price
[2017-01-14 19:51:01] Tetsuo : hold onto ur bux
[2017-01-14 19:51:12] TB : I am understanding 1 btc short XBTUSD and 1 btc long on XBTH17
[2017-01-14 19:51:27] premium_freak : jonny: the fees on the swap outweigh the gain from the futures premium?
[2017-01-14 19:51:59] sleger : premium_freak: @TB what he said is till april, so until maturity
[2017-01-14 19:52:10] sleger : the only pnl is funding fee
[2017-01-14 19:52:20] TB : thats stupid
[2017-01-14 19:52:20] premium_freak : sleger: right
[2017-01-14 19:52:26] TB : you settle at the price you bought
[2017-01-14 19:52:29] premium_freak : sleger: you'd need to close it at some point before maturity :)
[2017-01-14 19:52:37] TB : so you are gambling on funding fees
[2017-01-14 19:52:42] sleger : TB: that's what he said, please read
[2017-01-14 19:52:54] jonny : TB: you settle at the price you bought?
[2017-01-14 19:53:19] TB : the future will settle at spot
[2017-01-14 19:53:28] jonny : yes
[2017-01-14 19:53:29] sleger : jonny: yep he's wrong
[2017-01-14 19:53:35] Tetsuo : if there is a future
[2017-01-14 19:54:04] sleger : if bitmex is hacked you can only lose 100% not more, your downside is protected !!
[2017-01-14 19:54:15] Tetsuo : 100%
[2017-01-14 19:54:16] premium_freak : jonny: can you even use the long side of your futures leg to offset the margin required for the short swap?
[2017-01-14 19:54:52] TB : premium_freak: no
[2017-01-14 19:55:23] TB : you have to buy and sell to realise the profit, one of the great attributes of BitMex
[2017-01-14 19:55:57] jonny : great?:P
[2017-01-14 19:56:29] TB : jonny: if you overleverage you get liquidated on one leg
[2017-01-14 19:56:34] jonny : thats what washsale is for?
[2017-01-14 19:56:51] TB : 2x on the long and I dont think you can get liquidated on the short
[2017-01-14 19:56:57] thedoc : we dumping boys
[2017-01-14 19:56:58] TB : so 50% drop
[2017-01-14 19:58:06] aethlios : make your coffee, will have a move soon
[2017-01-14 19:58:17] jonny : TB: you believe in 50% drops within 8h periods?
[2017-01-14 19:58:30] jonny : @TB forced realising profit costs 0.05% washsale
[2017-01-14 19:59:04] TB : if you can get it at the same price you buy/sell
[2017-01-14 19:59:25] sleger : thats hard to not do
[2017-01-14 19:59:34] Adriana : ETH go, BTC fall
[2017-01-14 19:59:41] sleger : hidden order at mid market, trade against, who can fail that ... ?
[2017-01-14 19:59:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2028 @ 821.49
[2017-01-14 20:00:18] TB : honestly at worst 0.15% would be needed to rebalance
[2017-01-14 20:00:23] TB : 0.05% is best case
[2017-01-14 20:00:30] TB : -0.05%
[2017-01-14 20:00:59] sleger : 0.05% is base case
[2017-01-14 20:01:07] sleger : 0.15% is you trying to lose money on purpose
[2017-01-14 20:02:38] jonny : sleger: @TB yes we better retire or trade as fast as computers
[2017-01-14 20:03:23] aethlios : from ATH to ATL in a few weeks will be funny.
[2017-01-14 20:03:30] jonny : i also feel lonely when i try manual market making at the wrong day time and there are no orders for minutes ;)
[2017-01-14 20:04:11] jonny : aethlios: ATL is 0
[2017-01-14 20:04:22] Tetsuo : they can´t let huobi and okc walks if PBOC is npw officially lookin at them, everyone knows their crooks and a shame to the proud and hard working there
[2017-01-14 20:04:29] BTCDJS : jonny: -1
[2017-01-14 20:04:49] jonny : aethlios: ATL is impossible @BTCDJS
[2017-01-14 20:04:59] Tetsuo : BTC - we the people of china hate u
[2017-01-14 20:05:01] BTCDJS : -10
[2017-01-14 20:05:43] jonny : BTCDJS: ?
[2017-01-14 20:05:48] aethlios : true ATL is impossible but let me rephrase to ALT of the last bull move from 170.
[2017-01-14 20:06:35] jonny : only if btcc will make 99% of "volume"
[2017-01-14 20:08:22] jonny : bitcoin is growing steadily and maybe exponentially
[2017-01-14 20:08:23] jonny : https://blockchain.info/en/charts/n-transactions-excluding-chains-longer-than-100?timespan=all
[2017-01-14 20:08:59] jonny : https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=bitcoin
[2017-01-14 20:12:30] Ahhere : jonny: this one is better https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Buy%20bitcoin
[2017-01-14 20:12:59] rapidtrades : Adriana: sup wife
[2017-01-14 20:13:47] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: Its RADO
[2017-01-14 20:13:54] jonny : what happened in nigeria in september?
[2017-01-14 20:14:24] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: that's Angelika
[2017-01-14 20:14:31] BTCDJS : Ah
[2017-01-14 20:15:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 6 @ 0.013411
[2017-01-14 20:17:06] Adriana : rapidtrades: Hi Rapid. I didn't decide about our marriage yet. I may pick Sleger. Or who knows... Nagano! he is such a cutie
[2017-01-14 20:17:12] jonny : are you all public people?
[2017-01-14 20:17:48] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnG3qBKQO0s
[2017-01-14 20:18:30] BTCDJS : Adriana: Im already married so dont bother considering me
[2017-01-14 20:19:58] rapidtrades : I think I'll go to bed early today
[2017-01-14 20:20:41] Tetsuo : u will miss everything
[2017-01-14 20:20:53] rapidtrades : my teeth hurt more now then before i went to the 'dentist'
[2017-01-14 20:20:55] Adriana : jonny: A Russian Ponzi genius made to Nigeria with his MMM pyramid
[2017-01-14 20:21:22] Tetsuo : they tell you that this is a good sign, but it really isn´t
[2017-01-14 20:21:24] jonny : Adriana: knew it! :D
[2017-01-14 20:22:17] sleger : I feel hurt that you are considering other people Adriana :'( Rapid is now missing teeth and cant afford proper healthcare, noganoo is a gambling addict who has to steal kerozene heaters from warehouses and sell them on ebay to fund his gambling problem, and... he keeps losing
[2017-01-14 20:22:17] micmix : Adriana: was he in jail for like 10 years after MMM in Russia?
[2017-01-14 20:22:32] Adriana : jonny: Seriously, the crazy inflated Nigerian BTC price is only thanks to him
[2017-01-14 20:22:56] jonny : micmix: you saw the documentary about him?^^
[2017-01-14 20:23:08] Tetsuo : link plz
[2017-01-14 20:23:08] rapidtrades : these f*cking birds man @sleger
[2017-01-14 20:23:49] micmix : jonny: no, just read somewhere
[2017-01-14 20:23:52] rapidtrades : Federal data show that in the years after bird-killing programs LaGuardia and Newark airports ramped up in response to the gutsy landing, the number of recorded bird strikes involving those airports actually went up. Combined, the two airports went from an average of 158 strikes per year in the five years before the accident to an average of 299 per year in the six years after it
[2017-01-14 20:24:36] rapidtrades : ^ can u believe that shit? they're trying to take down our planes @sleger
[2017-01-14 20:24:37] Tetsuo : Adriana: https://img.rt.com/files/oldfiles/politics/mavrodi-lukashenko-belarus-economy/sergey-mavrodi-524.jpg
[2017-01-14 20:24:47] Tetsuo : looks innocent to me
[2017-01-14 20:25:11] sleger : rapidtrades: I heard they are using eagles to hunt/scare the other birds there
[2017-01-14 20:25:13] Adriana : micmix: 4.5 years in a penal colony. In Russia you normally don't serve much for economic crimes
[2017-01-14 20:25:26] rapidtrades : sleger: that's smart
[2017-01-14 20:25:50] micmix : Adriana: ah ok, I found wikipedia article with full history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company)
[2017-01-14 20:26:07] rapidtrades : Wish there was a way to kill all birds
[2017-01-14 20:26:21] rapidtrades : they're so useless...all they do is fly around and shit on people
[2017-01-14 20:26:25] BTCDJS : bird flu
[2017-01-14 20:26:30] Tetsuo : 11 i would donate 2$ of my savings into it
[2017-01-14 20:26:39] Tetsuo : 20%
[2017-01-14 20:26:39] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: now ur thinking!
[2017-01-14 20:27:00] Tetsuo : kill all them goddamn animals
[2017-01-14 20:27:05] BTCDJS : yeah just get infected by one of them and all your problems are over
[2017-01-14 20:27:42] BTCDJS : who cares about anything after theyre dead? Its brilliant
[2017-01-14 20:28:05] jonny : "Russia ... normally don't serve much for economic crimes" , how come @Adriana
[2017-01-14 20:28:11] rapidtrades : once we get that synthetic food down, we should have a giant feast and murder&eat all non-humans
[2017-01-14 20:28:40] rapidtrades : START WORKING ON SOME REPLICATORS PPL
[2017-01-14 20:29:16] Adriana : micmix: BTW, according to the Russian media, the MMM Nigeria website surpassed Facebook by popularity on Jan 11, 2017
[2017-01-14 20:29:24] jonny : rapidtrades: are you trying to scare away all the sensitive vegans, so that the evil of leverage trading wont get hold of them?
[2017-01-14 20:29:46] micmix : Adriana: oh wow, that's insane
[2017-01-14 20:30:14] rapidtrades : do we have another btc ponzi?
[2017-01-14 20:30:24] rapidtrades : more good publicity for the future of money
[2017-01-14 20:31:26] Adriana : micmix: https://russian.rt.com/world/article/333940-mmm-afrika-vkladchiki-mavrodi . Some cool pics of MMM movement in Nigeria, It got much crazier by now
[2017-01-14 20:32:03] micmix : 2.5 million people invested???
[2017-01-14 20:32:54] Adriana : micmix: Was back in November. I think it's way more now
[2017-01-14 20:33:28] micmix : that's funny: "as it happens we can't pay people 100% profit every month". who would have thought? ;-)
[2017-01-14 20:33:59] Adriana : He promised 50% higher payouts to Bitcoin investors so that't way the BTC price skyrocketed in Nigeria back at that time
[2017-01-14 20:34:03] Tetsuo : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32487896/IMG_07831.jpg.html
[2017-01-14 20:34:25] Tetsuo : 3 days ago
[2017-01-14 20:34:27] Tetsuo : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32487905/ttt.jpg.html
[2017-01-14 20:35:24] Tetsuo : i saw one of these..
[2017-01-14 20:35:26] Tetsuo : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32487910/IMG_07851.jpg.html
[2017-01-14 20:35:31] Tetsuo : kill em all
[2017-01-14 20:35:47] sleger : tempting... http://www.ebay.com/itm/25000-NEW-STEFANO-RICCI-Blue-Rare-Cashmere-Matte-Crocodile-Leather-Jacket-Large-/141526239400?hash=item20f39f08a8:g:Em0AAOSw44BYQdWz
[2017-01-14 20:36:21] Tetsuo : in L please
[2017-01-14 20:36:47] sleger : that fits like a L
[2017-01-14 20:38:57] micmix : Adriana: the article says that MMM was active in Zimbabwe and South Africa, didn't know that
[2017-01-14 20:39:08] jonny : Adriana: :(
[2017-01-14 20:40:47] jonny : why didnt MMM beat trump in the elections?
[2017-01-14 20:41:03] jonny : are they both the same?
[2017-01-14 20:42:14] Tetsuo : post of the year so far
[2017-01-14 20:44:11] Adriana : jonny: Russians generally believe that nonviolent crimes should not be punished very harshl
[2017-01-14 20:44:24] Adriana : *harshly
[2017-01-14 20:48:33] Adriana : jonny: btw. Russia has 1874 people serving life sentences vs 160,000 people in US
[2017-01-14 20:49:07] Adriana : *both had in 2014
[2017-01-14 20:49:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 51 @ 821.06
[2017-01-14 20:50:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 819.89
[2017-01-14 20:50:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 819.99
[2017-01-14 20:51:45] Tetsuo : Adriana: how many people survive a 10+y prison in Russia
[2017-01-14 20:51:57] Rado : $5 discount on H17
[2017-01-14 20:52:30] abbey : BOOM!
[2017-01-14 20:52:54] Tetsuo : Rado: considering that we are headin straight to 0$ it ´s not that much
[2017-01-14 20:53:36] Tetsuo : next week all chinese exchanges will be closed
[2017-01-14 20:53:44] Rado : yeah 0
[2017-01-14 20:53:51] Rado : don't know what to say to that
[2017-01-14 20:53:55] Tetsuo : 0.00
[2017-01-14 20:54:59] Tetsuo : last chance to withdraw all your BTC from China and sell it on Stamp/Kraken for juicy FIAT
[2017-01-14 20:55:12] aethlios : 200 usd price, start again from bottom with out china manipulation.
[2017-01-14 20:56:01] BTCDJS : And bring alts back
[2017-01-14 20:56:05] BTCDJS : 200x
[2017-01-14 20:56:18] Tetsuo : i´m a buyer @80$
[2017-01-14 20:56:46] Rado : Tetsuo: why don't you sell all your BTC to me
[2017-01-14 20:56:49] aethlios : 200 usd btc and 1 usd ltc.
[2017-01-14 20:56:51] Rado : I will give you top dollar
[2017-01-14 20:56:53] Rado : $500
[2017-01-14 20:57:02] aethlios : from double top to double bottom.
[2017-01-14 20:57:15] abbey : I said BOOM!!!
[2017-01-14 20:57:23] BTCDJS : abbey: wat
[2017-01-14 20:57:24] Tetsuo : i have already sold 50% of my cold wallet 1 month ago
[2017-01-14 20:57:41] abbey : puh
[2017-01-14 20:57:49] Tetsuo : @~770USD
[2017-01-14 20:57:55] Adriana : Tetsuo: depends on a prison. Russian penal colonies generally considered not bad. They even have festivals that relatives can visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4gdUZye2ZA
[2017-01-14 20:57:56] abbey : phuu
[2017-01-14 20:58:04] Rado : lol
[2017-01-14 20:58:09] Rado : I feel for you
[2017-01-14 20:58:54] Tetsuo : Adriana: this just looks beautiful
[2017-01-14 20:59:00] abbey : boom?
[2017-01-14 20:59:01] Tetsuo : when can i move in
[2017-01-14 20:59:38] BTCDJS : abbey: I take it you are short
[2017-01-14 21:00:13] rullwull : Adriana: this is ukrainian prison on video
[2017-01-14 21:00:28] abbey : no no, longed more on the way down ;D
[2017-01-14 21:01:21] abbey : all positions still green
[2017-01-14 21:01:48] Tetsuo : enjoy the moment
[2017-01-14 21:02:33] Tetsuo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U41txhi2nfY
[2017-01-14 21:02:52] Adriana : rullwull: the penal system is still very similar. This is Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq2E6ecb6hU
[2017-01-14 21:03:00] abbey : well my xbth17 position is 206% ROE at the moment, i'm all good here.
[2017-01-14 21:03:55] abbey : and we are movin to right direction
[2017-01-14 21:04:11] Papou : We need a big green dildo
[2017-01-14 21:04:14] MikeHunt : this thing is gonna go down hard
[2017-01-14 21:04:19] MikeHunt : maybe not yet
[2017-01-14 21:04:27] Adriana : rullwull: @Tetsuo penal colonies only for relatively light crimes
[2017-01-14 21:04:49] BTCDJS : Yeah ive become a bear too
[2017-01-14 21:04:53] jonny : "To improve system performance, OKCoin will delete historical data older than 3 months at regular intervals based on memory usage" lol
[2017-01-14 21:05:04] sleger : typical useless mikehunt post: it will go down or maybe not
[2017-01-14 21:05:11] abbey : BTCDJS: shame
[2017-01-14 21:05:12] sleger : it's going to 80k or 400
[2017-01-14 21:06:14] Apocalyptic : jonny: are you trolling ?
[2017-01-14 21:06:15] MikeHunt : sleger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7PETX-0L9g
[2017-01-14 21:06:51] jonny : Apocalyptic: i didnt know my ok-c-oin transaction would not be archived unlimited like elsewhere
[2017-01-14 21:07:32] jonny : (source https://www.okcoin.com/future/billRecord.do )
[2017-01-14 21:08:09] Papou : We need to flip to 860+ so the shorters cry
[2017-01-14 21:08:53] rullwull : shorters will sell more @860+
[2017-01-14 21:09:55] BitMEX_Sam : jonny: Yeah, that's unreal isn't it; just ran into that a few days ago
[2017-01-14 21:11:11] Tetsuo : it´s for your own safety
[2017-01-14 21:11:39] Tetsuo : Okcoin: "we have nothing to hide"
[2017-01-14 21:12:05] sleger : "To improve system performance, OKCoin will delete historical data older than 3 months at regular intervals based on memory usage"
[2017-01-14 21:12:27] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-14 21:12:40] ayy_lmao : like it never happened
[2017-01-14 21:12:51] Rado : is that for real sleger?
[2017-01-14 21:12:53] ayy_lmao : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2017-01-14 21:12:59] jonny : cryptsy deleted the server too ,unexpectately just before investigatiors took over
[2017-01-14 21:13:09] Tetsuo : well people always complained about the system performance
[2017-01-14 21:13:34] j8 : yeah i wasn't pleased to notice that
[2017-01-14 21:13:34] ayy_lmao : does that really affect system performance tho
[2017-01-14 21:13:41] jonny : yeah, they just dont have enough megabytes yet
[2017-01-14 21:13:56] ayy_lmao : sounds bs
[2017-01-14 21:13:58] Tetsuo : it´s bullshit
[2017-01-14 21:14:03] jonny : they still run on the 4gb harddrive
[2017-01-14 21:14:30] jonny : of the founder's mother's first computer
[2017-01-14 21:15:06] sleger : Rado: yes copy/paste from the website
[2017-01-14 21:15:35] Rado : they should just close these no fee exchanges
[2017-01-14 21:15:45] Rado : are there exchanges in China that charge fees?
[2017-01-14 21:15:47] Tetsuo : they will
[2017-01-14 21:16:48] Tetsuo : everyone knew they were crooks
[2017-01-14 21:17:01] Tetsuo : it´s not like it´s abrand new thing
[2017-01-14 21:17:11] Tetsuo : it´s just official now
[2017-01-14 21:18:08] Tetsuo : PBOC and the people of china will crush them
[2017-01-14 21:18:27] Tetsuo : they should have never trusted a japanese invention
[2017-01-14 21:19:20] rullwull : Star Xu named as a member of National IT Finance Security Committee
[2017-01-14 21:20:29] thedoc : damn xmr dumped more
[2017-01-14 21:24:01] jonny : thedoc: why would you pump xmr?
[2017-01-14 21:25:06] abbey : i love this game!
[2017-01-14 21:32:15] abbey : markets getting wild now
[2017-01-14 21:32:43] BTCDJS : yeah its a nice game isnt it. You always think youre going to make tons of money. and then BOOM you dont.
[2017-01-14 21:35:38] abbey : BTCDJS: i was already something like 20btc + profit last week, shoud've cash it out after $1000
[2017-01-14 21:36:24] BTCDJS : abbey: wow thats good. Yeah that wouldve been the best thing to do
[2017-01-14 21:36:53] cryptobull : always take some profit off the table
[2017-01-14 21:37:29] cryptobull : cash it out & reward yourself!
[2017-01-14 21:37:39] abbey : BTCDJS: yeah, but i got over that, game goes on. :D
[2017-01-14 21:39:45] nOgAnOo : new 15 contract market maker
[2017-01-14 21:41:09] abbey : cryptobull: Luckily I took few bcs on the way up and sold to euros. I still have cash about 1,5k € left from that. Also I bought some quality bud and hash from my mate, 100+ gr
[2017-01-14 21:41:27] abbey : so I did reward my self
[2017-01-14 21:41:43] cryptobull : nice
[2017-01-14 21:43:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 814.99
[2017-01-14 21:43:43] abbey : oh wel
[2017-01-14 21:43:48] abbey : l
[2017-01-14 21:44:03] BTCDJS : was that you mate?
[2017-01-14 21:44:50] abbey : oh lord
[2017-01-14 21:45:11] abbey : nope
[2017-01-14 21:45:17] thedoc : Du
[2017-01-14 21:45:27] thedoc : Mp
[2017-01-14 21:45:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1000 @ 5582.4
[2017-01-14 21:45:33] nOgAnOo : DMMPPDSKFlSD
[2017-01-14 21:45:36] i3 : going down
[2017-01-14 21:45:46] nOgAnOo : CATCH THE DAGGER
[2017-01-14 21:45:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3000 @ 814.05
[2017-01-14 21:45:47] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2017-01-14 21:45:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 813.97
[2017-01-14 21:45:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 813.96
[2017-01-14 21:45:54] nOgAnOo : BUY
[2017-01-14 21:46:00] Tetsuo : PBOC: " Hang em higher!"
[2017-01-14 21:46:11] Tetsuo : OPEN THE GATES
[2017-01-14 21:46:13] jonny : Tetsuo: stop trolling
[2017-01-14 21:46:51] thedoc : Quarterly so low lol
[2017-01-14 21:47:00] thedoc : Premium negative
[2017-01-14 21:47:01] abbey : boing
[2017-01-14 21:47:36] BTCDJS : abbey: I hope it bounces so I can short more
[2017-01-14 21:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1685 @ 812.62
[2017-01-14 21:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5338 @ 812.94
[2017-01-14 21:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 813.01
[2017-01-14 21:48:32] Tetsuo : https://youtu.be/wDk6fvkEp2k?t=44s
[2017-01-14 21:48:44] nOgAnOo : I just lost my cardboard box
[2017-01-14 21:48:54] nOgAnOo : Where will I sleep tonight?
[2017-01-14 21:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 811.79
[2017-01-14 21:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 16111 @ 5535.1
[2017-01-14 21:49:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3000 @ 804.39
[2017-01-14 21:49:13] Adriana : BTCDJS: Just open an eth long before it shoots
[2017-01-14 21:49:34] BTCDJS : K
[2017-01-14 21:49:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 810.03
[2017-01-14 21:49:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 400 @ 809.14
[2017-01-14 21:50:00] shiroe : Whats the panic about?
[2017-01-14 21:50:28] Tetsuo : Game over man
[2017-01-14 21:50:39] shiroe : going sub 5k again?
[2017-01-14 21:50:44] shiroe : or 777? haa!
[2017-01-14 21:50:57] Tetsuo : 100$ will get tested
[2017-01-14 21:51:27] thedoc : there hit $800 like i thought it would
[2017-01-14 21:51:30] thedoc : only took 12 hours longer
[2017-01-14 21:51:46] thedoc : i'm in. go up now
[2017-01-14 21:51:53] Tetsuo : quarterly shorts won´t stay cheap forever
[2017-01-14 21:54:59] ayy_lmao : BitMEX_Sam: Be nice if I could add PNL calculator to the dashboard
[2017-01-14 21:55:05] nOgAnOo : need more dumpage pl0x
[2017-01-14 21:55:09] nOgAnOo : I'm short now
[2017-01-14 21:55:16] nOgAnOo : Just made 30%
[2017-01-14 21:55:36] thedoc : who is shorting xbth17 so much it is $7 under the index price
[2017-01-14 21:55:39] thedoc : get rekt shorter
[2017-01-14 21:57:02] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/8KmNovJO/
[2017-01-14 21:57:10] ayy_lmao : http://imgur.com/a/avLxU like this
[2017-01-14 21:57:37] Tetsuo : !!CONFIRMED NEWS!! PBOC has been buldin huge short positions over the last weeks
[2017-01-14 21:58:15] Tetsuo : BTC--->double digits $ soon
[2017-01-14 21:58:40] aethlios : 200 very possible
[2017-01-14 21:59:10] abbey : bull is strong
[2017-01-14 21:59:14] XBT_IHCT : Tetsuo: link? or FUD
[2017-01-14 21:59:20] aethlios : -100 usd march discount soon???
[2017-01-14 21:59:24] jonny : now 850?
[2017-01-14 22:00:00] jonny : Tetsuo: stop it
[2017-01-14 22:00:06] shiroe : buy or good bye?
[2017-01-14 22:00:33] aethlios : short them high.
[2017-01-14 22:00:50] thedoc : Buy the dip. Sell the rip
[2017-01-14 22:01:00] thedoc : Short the top
[2017-01-14 22:02:13] Tetsuo : blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2017/01/14/BREAKINGNEWS-PBOC-shutdown-all-exchanges/
[2017-01-14 22:02:44] shiroe : chinese exchanges goes btc-e.
[2017-01-14 22:03:30] Tetsuo : stam/kraken/btc-e will collapse under the heavy weight of BTC tryin to get sold juicy FIAT
[2017-01-14 22:03:33] shiroe : russia wins!
[2017-01-14 22:03:38] abbey : BTCDJS: longed just a bit more, lost one of my positions thou
[2017-01-14 22:03:39] Tetsuo : probably
[2017-01-14 22:03:41] Rado : Tetsuo: better buy before you get rekt
[2017-01-14 22:03:54] jonny : Tetsuo: stop it
[2017-01-14 22:04:03] ak : hey guys, newbie here.
[2017-01-14 22:04:07] Adriana : shiroe: woohoo
[2017-01-14 22:04:09] Tetsuo : jonny: u can´t stop the truth
[2017-01-14 22:04:18] BTCDJS : abbey: you might get a little bounce. But not much IMO
[2017-01-14 22:04:19] Tetsuo : ak: it looks pretty bad
[2017-01-14 22:04:37] jonny : Tetsuo: get your futures at enough discount now or let it be, dont try to manipulate