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[2017-01-13 17:15:01] BetterNick : correct
[2017-01-13 17:15:30] BetterNick : So if you buy 1 future at $700, you need to hedge it with 700 contracts here at bitmex
[2017-01-13 17:16:11] BetterNick : When you close your position at $900.. your counterparty buys a $900 contract.. you sell a $700 contract..
[2017-01-13 17:16:47] BetterNick : they fill up the $200.. very strange.. had a discussion with their CEO about that.. it smells fishy
[2017-01-13 17:17:27] thailand : they also require you verify the account before you can use, correct?
[2017-01-13 17:17:44] aethlios : BetterNick: so it is a quanto?? if you short 1 btc, you are short 1 btc and not 800 usd let;s say.
[2017-01-13 17:17:45] BetterNick : Yes, I think so.. but they're pretty fast
[2017-01-13 17:17:57] BetterNick : aethlios: no, it's not a quanto
[2017-01-13 17:18:19] BetterNick : I even think themselves they don't understand 100% what they are doing.
[2017-01-13 17:18:51] BetterNick : I had a long discussion with Timo about it.. in the end he admitted they did something "special".. but he didn't want to tell me what it was
[2017-01-13 17:18:57] BetterNick : i'm not joking
[2017-01-13 17:19:10] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/GxnvyMVJ/ based on this optimistic analysis of mine, september contract would be the best to go long the break out.
[2017-01-13 17:19:14] BetterNick : They play a you wine some, you loose some game i gueess
[2017-01-13 17:19:54] BetterNick : sep17 currently trades at $920 ask
[2017-01-13 17:20:07] BetterNick : but if you want to buy a lot.. do it step by step..
[2017-01-13 17:20:20] thailand : you holding any contracts or just trade out of them quickly?
[2017-01-13 17:20:26] BetterNick : I had a position of 120 btc and it was quite tough to close it
[2017-01-13 17:20:42] thailand : I'd imagine
[2017-01-13 17:20:54] BetterNick : I have a short over there of $40.000
[2017-01-13 17:21:06] BetterNick : and every 3 months i pull it to the next quarter
[2017-01-13 17:21:07] thailand : with you being one of the few users and liquidity provided by the company itself possibly lol
[2017-01-13 17:21:19] BetterNick : and get some premium.. it's my backup, lol
[2017-01-13 17:21:54] BetterNick : but during the big drop.. their website was so fucking slow
[2017-01-13 17:22:07] BetterNick : couldn't do a thing.. but just wait..
[2017-01-13 17:22:25] BetterNick : in the end that cost me $15,000.. just because it's a lousy crappy exchange..
[2017-01-13 17:22:36] BetterNick : but yeah, they;re legit
[2017-01-13 17:22:44] BetterNick : it's just a crappy exchange, lol
[2017-01-13 17:23:12] Sheriff : Is there no liquidation price on futures?
[2017-01-13 17:23:26] Sheriff : Nvm
[2017-01-13 17:23:55] aethlios : bitmex should add a 6month and a 12 month. liquidity will come in. we need a 12 month curve to trade the slope.
[2017-01-13 17:24:20] BetterNick : a 12-month is difficult to manage... don't you think?
[2017-01-13 17:24:26] BetterNick : by the exchange at least
[2017-01-13 17:24:29] BetterNick : mark price?
[2017-01-13 17:25:07] BetterNick : I know the guys from Deribit personally
[2017-01-13 17:25:25] BetterNick : Can talk to them about a 6/9/12 month
[2017-01-13 17:25:33] BetterNick : Why do think liquidity will come in?
[2017-01-13 17:25:35] thailand : how long has derebit been around?
[2017-01-13 17:25:35] thedoc : lol that dump hit 5555 cny on 0kcoin
[2017-01-13 17:25:47] BetterNick : since last july
[2017-01-13 17:27:11] BetterNick : they also have options, but i'm not sure the market is ready yet for options
[2017-01-13 17:29:37] Izakun : Y a t'il des francais ?
[2017-01-13 17:30:00] aethlios : BetterNick: we don't need 9 month, swap 3 month, 6month, 12 month. 12 month would be a wild thing, maybe 25x (not 100x) volatility high.
[2017-01-13 17:33:09] BetterNick : aethlios: Talking to John (ceo deribit) now...
[2017-01-13 17:33:29] BitMEX_Sam : We'd like to do longer-dated futs but liquidity has historically been an issue
[2017-01-13 17:33:46] BetterNick : Right now they're updating their system so a 12-month would be possible.
[2017-01-13 17:33:56] BitMEX_Sam : We would rather have a few liquid markets than many illiquid ones. But liquidity has consistently gotten better.
[2017-01-13 17:33:57] BetterNick : BitMEX_Sam: I get that.
[2017-01-13 17:34:10] aethlios : BetterNick: having the 12 month and 6 month adds more strategies, we can trade the curve.
[2017-01-13 17:35:04] BetterNick : aethlios: sure, but liquidity is needed
[2017-01-13 17:35:18] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Sam the problem was in the past the quanto style, with an inverse hedging is safer.
[2017-01-13 17:35:50] sleger : bitmex never had inverse long term futures ?
[2017-01-13 17:36:03] sleger : how would one know if liquidity would be an issue then ?
[2017-01-13 17:42:52] aethlios : I say add 12 month with 25x and let's see what happens. let the traders love it.
[2017-01-13 17:43:29] aethlios : swap, 3month and 12 month.
[2017-01-13 17:44:05] aethlios : if liquidity gets better increase leverage slowly.
[2017-01-13 17:44:47] rapidtrades : i want 1 month
[2017-01-13 17:45:02] BetterNick : aethlios: John of Deribit is thinking about a 12-month.
[2017-01-13 17:45:10] rapidtrades : u can't hedge on 12 months, things could spiral out of control
[2017-01-13 17:45:16] rapidtrades : even 3 is decey
[2017-01-13 17:45:20] rapidtrades : dicey
[2017-01-13 17:46:28] sleger : i think 3 months is long enough for my needs, and i can always roll its not a huge pain like the 7d alts futures
[2017-01-13 17:46:40] sleger : i'd like 14d or 1 month yes
[2017-01-13 17:46:43] i3 : Izakun: yyes
[2017-01-13 17:46:45] jung1 : hi
[2017-01-13 17:46:57] Izakun : i3: t'es francais ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:02] jung1 : eth classic gonna be updated in less than 2h
[2017-01-13 17:47:05] i3 : oui
[2017-01-13 17:47:11] Izakun : ta skype ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:24] i3 : je l'utilise pas sorry
[2017-01-13 17:47:29] sleger : that trollbox is english @Izakun @i3
[2017-01-13 17:47:36] rapidtrades : 3 months is too long to hedge cos if things turn around primium will spike and u can't unhedge until they crash back down or we get closer to expiry
[2017-01-13 17:47:45] Izakun : i3: autre ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:49] rapidtrades : ur kinda locked in for the duration
[2017-01-13 17:48:09] sleger : Izakun: speak english or go back to high school to learn it
[2017-01-13 17:48:22] i3 : sleger what''s the issue ,
[2017-01-13 17:48:25] sleger : or the chinese trollbox
[2017-01-13 17:48:33] Izakun : sleger: Who are you for say this ? an admin ?
[2017-01-13 17:48:40] sleger : Izakun: tyes
[2017-01-13 17:48:47] aethlios : rapidtrades: the same thing like 3 month. you trade in a higher spread. 12 month will be a btc with altcoin volatility.
[2017-01-13 17:48:59] Izakun : sleger: ok
[2017-01-13 17:49:09] i3 : Izakun: go IRC
[2017-01-13 17:50:25] Guest39829 : ok
[2017-01-13 17:53:28] rullwull : nice funding rate!
[2017-01-13 17:56:39] rapidtrades : lol @828
[2017-01-13 17:57:18] rapidtrades : r/bitcorn omg china banned leverage this is so good for bitcoin!
[2017-01-13 17:57:28] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: hey Rapid remember when you said you trade using momentum?
[2017-01-13 17:57:49] sleger : that's so 2016
[2017-01-13 17:57:55] rapidtrades : I haven't seen this mass delusion since the mtgox blowup
[2017-01-13 17:58:21] MikeHunt : i thought it'd crash
[2017-01-13 17:58:26] MikeHunt : since no more gambling
[2017-01-13 17:58:28] MikeHunt : weird
[2017-01-13 17:59:07] ayy_lmao : rapidtrades: from bulls or bears
[2017-01-13 17:59:08] ayy_lmao : ?
[2017-01-13 17:59:12] MikeHunt : chinese gov may regret making exchanges do that if bitcoin now rockets upwards
[2017-01-13 18:00:24] birdie numn : long from 799. should i cash in?
[2017-01-13 18:03:26] Sheriff : birdie numn: I think its very, very undervalued right now
[2017-01-13 18:03:35] Sinterklaas : birdie numn: no cash in at 989
[2017-01-13 18:04:13] Sinterklaas : just press 989 and close order, close your macbook and go have some fun this weekend
[2017-01-13 18:04:15] MikeHunt : probably another down cycle then more up
[2017-01-13 18:04:40] Sinterklaas : put some extra margin,
[2017-01-13 18:08:41] rapidtrades : my LIQ is $10 lower due to rapey funding, while price is $100 higher
[2017-01-13 18:08:46] rapidtrades : how does this make sense
[2017-01-13 18:10:12] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: bitmex is the new woodchipper?
[2017-01-13 18:11:02] rapidtrades : its just not a good product unless ur jumping in and out all the time and hedging with other sites
[2017-01-13 18:11:56] rapidtrades : guess that's what I have to do now instead
[2017-01-13 18:14:02] aethlios : rapidtrades: only could hedge shorting finex with 0.04% daily interest, nothing cheaper. also okcoin weekly was in discount and still is.
[2017-01-13 18:14:31] aethlios : or sell spot and stay in cash but have to sent all stamp finex
[2017-01-13 18:15:56] sleger : 0kcoin usd has almost closed the gap (because) and china also, that's momentum going
[2017-01-13 18:16:19] sleger : rapidtrades: you have to realise your pnl
[2017-01-13 18:17:27] rapidtrades : it's just dumb to pay for hedging ur BTC
[2017-01-13 18:17:48] rapidtrades : it's unnatural
[2017-01-13 18:28:58] rapidtrades : sleger: what do u mean by realize ur PnL
[2017-01-13 18:29:27] sleger : rapidtrades: close/reopen your position slowly
[2017-01-13 18:29:43] rapidtrades : play the premium discount game u mean?
[2017-01-13 18:30:09] sleger : rapidtrades: sorry i was confused i thought you needed to increase your available margin and you had unrealize gains
[2017-01-13 18:30:20] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-01-13 18:31:20] rapidtrades : at least I'll get 0.09% next funding, if I don't get ADLed with all the newbebes going long on this great news from China
[2017-01-13 18:44:13] Nooby : After this week more than900
[2017-01-13 18:50:00] abbey : rapidtrades: this is bullish as f**k, i'm sorry
[2017-01-13 18:51:49] Apocalyptic : what's the news?
[2017-01-13 18:52:21] rapidtrades : China banning leverage is apparently bullish for bitcoin
[2017-01-13 18:52:23] rapidtrades : lolz
[2017-01-13 18:52:44] BTCDJS : Its not a bad thing
[2017-01-13 18:52:55] rapidtrades : it is if ur bullish
[2017-01-13 18:53:07] BTCDJS : Not necessarily
[2017-01-13 18:53:15] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: BitMEX works great with Brave browser
[2017-01-13 18:53:20] Rado : minimal use of the CPU
[2017-01-13 18:53:51] rapidtrades : bitmex can we get new addresses so the NSA doesn't track our shit
[2017-01-13 18:54:24] BTCDJS : Yeah can we all have new wallet addresses every 4 months
[2017-01-13 18:54:39] rapidtrades : or is that a problem with 'multi-cigarretes'
[2017-01-13 18:55:05] rapidtrades : this is the only exchange that forces users to use the same one
[2017-01-13 18:55:15] BTCDJS : not forces
[2017-01-13 18:55:27] rapidtrades : well i guess u can multi account
[2017-01-13 18:55:30] BTCDJS : they say to get in touch if you want it changed
[2017-01-13 18:55:38] rapidtrades : ah rly?
[2017-01-13 18:55:41] rapidtrades : cool
[2017-01-13 18:55:43] BTCDJS : yup
[2017-01-13 18:55:55] BTCDJS : support@bitmex.com
[2017-01-13 18:56:47] rapidtrades : my friend Rapid Adl was thinking about joining
[2017-01-13 18:57:54] Apocalyptic : heh
[2017-01-13 18:58:09] BTCDJS : is he the boring version of you?
[2017-01-13 18:58:37] rapidtrades : the only boring version of me is the real-life version :)
[2017-01-13 18:59:19] Apocalyptic : so rapid, when do we see the 600s ?
[2017-01-13 18:59:55] rapidtrades : this month
[2017-01-13 19:00:33] Apocalyptic : great, can't come soon enough
[2017-01-13 19:01:53] abbey : rapidtrades: do you see 500s?
[2017-01-13 19:03:09] Nooby : Before that let nos touch 900$ and after we will sell :)
[2017-01-13 19:03:33] birdie numn : deal
[2017-01-13 19:04:13] birdie numn : and make sure u max your leverages guys, chyna left yuge shoues to dill
[2017-01-13 19:04:20] birdie numn : fill
[2017-01-13 19:05:36] abbey : yeah, max lev, eezy moniz
[2017-01-13 19:06:18] Nooby : Lol not so noobie... :)
[2017-01-13 19:10:18] Sinterklaas : so guys; you can change leverage while the order is already running?
[2017-01-13 19:10:25] thedoc : yeah
[2017-01-13 19:10:43] thedoc : just click the little box next to 100x and input your new leverage or slide the slider
[2017-01-13 19:10:55] Sinterklaas : ok;
[2017-01-13 19:11:04] thedoc : all it does is add or remove btc to your position to change your liquidation price
[2017-01-13 19:11:15] Sinterklaas : but what happens with the old profit you've made with the old leverage?
[2017-01-13 19:11:41] thedoc : the # of contracts isnt changing
[2017-01-13 19:11:56] Sinterklaas : so there is not more or lesser profit
[2017-01-13 19:12:22] thedoc : right.
[2017-01-13 19:17:28] Sinterklaas : but if i manually put extra margin, the leverage doest slide, but if i change leverage the % PNL changes>
[2017-01-13 19:17:39] BTCDJS : Correct
[2017-01-13 19:17:49] Sinterklaas : sorry for being stupid but usually i understand things ...
[2017-01-13 19:17:49] BTCDJS : i never slide
[2017-01-13 19:18:00] BTCDJS : i just add more margin
[2017-01-13 19:18:02] sleger : good shoes ?
[2017-01-13 19:18:17] BTCDJS : sleger: yeah timberland
[2017-01-13 19:19:09] Sinterklaas : what leverage is "normal" 50x?
[2017-01-13 19:19:17] birdie numn : yes
[2017-01-13 19:19:27] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: not really
[2017-01-13 19:19:33] Sinterklaas : ohw
[2017-01-13 19:19:39] BTCDJS : 5x seems the norm
[2017-01-13 19:19:45] birdie numn : for noganoo it is
[2017-01-13 19:20:14] BTCDJS : he does 100x
[2017-01-13 19:20:21] birdie numn : im at x20 and tbh its kinda nervewrecking
[2017-01-13 19:21:06] birdie numn : just o.2 btc but still
[2017-01-13 19:21:16] BTCDJS : to be honest. I do 50x a lot
[2017-01-13 19:21:22] bingbongfly : anyone else having trouble wiith the orderbook not loading?
[2017-01-13 19:21:32] BTCDJS : i don't follow my own advice
[2017-01-13 19:21:40] bingbongfly : specifically XBTH17
[2017-01-13 19:21:44] abbey : BTCDJS: same
[2017-01-13 19:22:16] birdie numn : do you sleep on x50 or just stare at the charts 24/7 @BTCDJS
[2017-01-13 19:22:18] BTCDJS : But only small amounts
[2017-01-13 19:22:29] BTCDJS : birdie numn: sleep
[2017-01-13 19:22:46] birdie numn : get liquidated sometimes?
[2017-01-13 19:22:50] abbey : I learned to use stop orders
[2017-01-13 19:23:24] BTCDJS : yes I do if I think it has a chance I leave it. If not I close begore
[2017-01-13 19:23:30] rapidtrades : don't feel so great
[2017-01-13 19:23:39] rapidtrades : either subway or the ice cream f*cked me
[2017-01-13 19:24:08] Nooby : Come on where are the 900's?? Lol
[2017-01-13 19:24:29] BTCDJS : abbey: I only use stops when the trade is well on its way away from my entry price
[2017-01-13 19:24:54] Apocalyptic : Nooby: you're in for a rude awakening
[2017-01-13 19:25:16] itsyourboy : Nooby: yeah we're about to start the next dump
[2017-01-13 19:25:36] BTCDJS : birdie numn: I get liquidated when the trade hasn't moved much since entry and I can't set a stop yet basically
[2017-01-13 19:25:44] Nooby : Lol i m not sure guys... let see
[2017-01-13 19:25:48] BTCDJS : but like I say. Small amounts
[2017-01-13 19:25:59] abbey : BTCDJS: so do I usually, but it depends on the situation.
[2017-01-13 19:26:22] BTCDJS : Yeah
[2017-01-13 19:26:30] Nooby : If it reaches 830 so I buy
[2017-01-13 19:27:03] BTCDJS : I exited my long and have another order at 800
[2017-01-13 19:27:26] itsyourboy : Nooby: how long do you intend on holding that position?
[2017-01-13 19:27:43] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: take some paracetamol
[2017-01-13 19:27:49] rapidtrades : why does the cost of spending ur last btc in a wallet skyrocket?
[2017-01-13 19:27:54] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: @ 800? what? a short?
[2017-01-13 19:28:11] rapidtrades : and how do I collect the dust without paying crazy fees?
[2017-01-13 19:28:23] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: no short. I just closed long and created another long at 800
[2017-01-13 19:28:43] Nooby : Till 900+ I really think it will go to 939 after reaching 830
[2017-01-13 19:29:06] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you wait til bitcoin scales
[2017-01-13 19:29:27] thedoc : btc bull flagging
[2017-01-13 19:29:27] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: You can always try to push low or no fee transactions on a long term repeat, and hope the transactions get broadcast by some good samaritan at some point.
[2017-01-13 19:29:40] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: ok, but if it stays high the long order won't get filled right?
[2017-01-13 19:30:19] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: yup
[2017-01-13 19:30:35] BTCDJS : And I'm ok with that
[2017-01-13 19:30:57] Sinterklaas : because another long is running than anyway
[2017-01-13 19:32:18] EasyChanges : what do you think about btc ? it will fall ?
[2017-01-13 19:32:33] MrRGnome : EasyChanges: It will fall, it will rise, it will fall, it will rise.
[2017-01-13 19:32:59] MrRGnome : BTC is the alpha and omega, the beginning and end. The banned and unbannable.
[2017-01-13 19:33:16] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: I made 390% profit off my long from 772 to 820
[2017-01-13 19:33:26] Sinterklaas : nice
[2017-01-13 19:33:40] BTCDJS : I think it will drop 50%
[2017-01-13 19:33:51] BTCDJS : if I'm wrong its ok.
[2017-01-13 19:33:56] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: that's great news!
[2017-01-13 19:33:59] Sinterklaas : @BTCDJS what will drop?
[2017-01-13 19:34:01] Sinterklaas : btc?
[2017-01-13 19:34:06] Apocalyptic : if only you could make it happen
[2017-01-13 19:34:07] BTCDJS : yup
[2017-01-13 19:34:11] Sinterklaas : to 400?
[2017-01-13 19:34:13] BTCDJS : 20$
[2017-01-13 19:34:21] BTCDJS : no
[2017-01-13 19:34:31] Sinterklaas : 800 ish
[2017-01-13 19:34:35] sleger : 20% is NOT 50%
[2017-01-13 19:34:38] MrRGnome : $400 would make me so happy right now.
[2017-01-13 19:34:43] sleger : *20$ is NOT 50%
[2017-01-13 19:35:09] Apocalyptic : "In case of extreme fall the support is the price area between 580 and 660 USD" says Enky
[2017-01-13 19:35:24] BTCDJS : sleger: from 752 it is
[2017-01-13 19:35:34] Apocalyptic : lolwhat
[2017-01-13 19:39:01] BTCDJS : Apocalyptic: Im taking the piss mate ?
[2017-01-13 19:41:16] thedoc : be sure to get that funding rate in 18 minutes
[2017-01-13 19:50:00] BitMEX_Greg : :+1:
[2017-01-13 19:51:02] BTCDJS : give me that funding rate. You know what Ill do with the money?
[2017-01-13 19:51:14] thedoc : we be dooming
[2017-01-13 19:51:37] Apocalyptic : come on China give us 5k already
[2017-01-13 19:51:40] BTCDJS : thedoc: to 800
[2017-01-13 19:51:59] BTCDJS : or 791 maybe
[2017-01-13 19:55:48] itsyourboy : Nooby: Did say hold off that long for a minute
[2017-01-13 19:55:57] itsyourboy : hope you didnt place it!
[2017-01-13 19:56:06] itsyourboy : (if it was a short term position)
[2017-01-13 19:58:00] Sinterklaas : i don't think it will go down that much? there is no cause for that
[2017-01-13 19:58:48] itsyourboy : it doesnt take much for the price to absolutely tank
[2017-01-13 19:59:38] itsyourboy : on the whim of a big sell at a good profit taking point, like if you were long from that last low and the momentum slowed up at 829... good time to close!
[2017-01-13 20:00:35] Sinterklaas : and now it goes to 800-804 and then up a bit
[2017-01-13 20:01:03] Apocalyptic : lol, fo sho as would rapid say
[2017-01-13 20:01:26] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: I wouldn't put 1BTC at 100x on it. But it is a possibility
[2017-01-13 20:02:15] BTCDJS : If it plays out. I will wish I did lol
[2017-01-13 20:03:24] birdie numn : im out of my long from 817 if it breaks even. getting scared
[2017-01-13 20:03:32] Sinterklaas : as we all know that i wish and i wanted and i would shit i should have etc tec
[2017-01-13 20:04:37] itsyourboy : the next 15-30 mins i think will be critical to where this goes and my moneys on down. good luck all
[2017-01-13 20:04:40] BTCDJS : birdie numn: hope its not influence from troll box talk
[2017-01-13 20:05:04] itsyourboy : BTCDJS: not tryin to influence, will pipe down!
[2017-01-13 20:05:13] birdie numn : i hoped for a steady rise but there doesnt seem to really be any momentum upwards
[2017-01-13 20:05:17] BTCDJS : itsyourboy: not you mate
[2017-01-13 20:05:27] BTCDJS : we can say what we want
[2017-01-13 20:07:19] itsyourboy : birdie numn: it looks like it's having a go, i've gambled by making my decision early
[2017-01-13 20:08:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 12 @ 819.66
[2017-01-13 20:09:33] birdie numn : hodl
[2017-01-13 20:09:53] itsyourboy : birdie numn: back to reddit
[2017-01-13 20:10:02] abbey : the smartest TRADE decisions are always made early @itsyourboy
[2017-01-13 20:10:30] birdie numn : itsyourboy: meow :)
[2017-01-13 20:10:52] itsyourboy : birdie numn: aha i'm messing!
[2017-01-13 20:16:36] itsyourboy : birdie numn: I think if you believe in BTC long term then HODL and cost averaging through accumulation at perceived low points is a good idea
[2017-01-13 20:19:57] abbey : yes, the bull is strong on btc
[2017-01-13 20:20:46] abbey : but it's gonna be bouncy
[2017-01-13 20:21:00] abbey : as always on the run
[2017-01-13 20:21:24] abbey : imho oc
[2017-01-13 20:22:21] birdie numn : itsyourboy: i have faith but the leverage is too tempting. if ill gamble through my first bitcoin then i must take your advice.
[2017-01-13 20:25:52] birdie numn : but masterplan is to accumulate coin not cash out fiat
[2017-01-13 20:27:02] itsyourboy : personally i have a stash i never touch and add to when the price is really low, then i trade a small percentage on leverage
[2017-01-13 20:39:17] KyllingLolsson : Going short
[2017-01-13 20:39:38] KyllingLolsson : rly weak upswings
[2017-01-13 20:39:55] KyllingLolsson : downtrend not done yet.
[2017-01-13 20:40:39] KyllingLolsson : weaker moneyflow, and overbought stochastic. Still under the 200 ema...
[2017-01-13 20:43:06] Sinterklaas : how short?? how low you think it'll go?
[2017-01-13 20:43:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2 @ 816.88 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-13 20:43:39] KyllingLolsson : maybe 750 (xbth17
[2017-01-13 20:44:07] KyllingLolsson : 200 contracts at x25
[2017-01-13 20:44:13] KyllingLolsson : i meant 2000
[2017-01-13 20:45:23] itsyourboy : my exit is 785
[2017-01-13 20:45:30] KyllingLolsson : mine too
[2017-01-13 20:45:38] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: there is support at 800 though
[2017-01-13 20:46:09] KyllingLolsson : Yeah, maybe in the short term... But long term says down
[2017-01-13 20:46:20] KyllingLolsson : I trade the trend
[2017-01-13 20:46:43] Apocalyptic : KyllingLolsson: 5700 CNY was almost a perfect 50% retracement of that big dump
[2017-01-13 20:47:07] Apocalyptic : amazing how btc follows these ratios
[2017-01-13 20:47:48] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: trends not broken yet
[2017-01-13 20:48:03] KyllingLolsson : I think it could bounce at 760 usd for a little while
[2017-01-13 20:48:21] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: How?
[2017-01-13 20:48:34] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: dude we broke the uptrend two weeks ago
[2017-01-13 20:48:42] Apocalyptic : but nvm
[2017-01-13 20:48:48] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: which chart are you using?
[2017-01-13 20:48:57] BTCDJS : CNY?
[2017-01-13 20:48:59] Apocalyptic : *a week
[2017-01-13 20:49:07] KyllingLolsson : Yep, adn daily
[2017-01-13 20:49:17] BTCDJS : yes that is broken
[2017-01-13 20:49:25] BTCDJS : but use held
[2017-01-13 20:49:40] BTCDJS : USD
[2017-01-13 20:50:17] KyllingLolsson : But really strong support at circa 680 usd
[2017-01-13 20:50:41] BTCDJS : and china isnt using leverage anymore. that goes both ways
[2017-01-13 20:50:51] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: agree
[2017-01-13 20:51:23] BTCDJS : that doesn't mean goto there yet though
[2017-01-13 20:53:31] BTCDJS : Depends on news though. But from TA perspective USD is still ok
[2017-01-13 20:54:02] BTCDJS : As for china breaking the trend. That was panic
[2017-01-13 21:09:20] KyllingLolsson : Uhhh stop sidewayyyyssss...
[2017-01-13 21:09:40] KyllingLolsson : But... The more sideways the bigger drop
[2017-01-13 21:10:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 330 @ 0.013848
[2017-01-13 21:12:03] MrRGnome : Almost closed my long fearing a drop
[2017-01-13 21:12:12] MrRGnome : but looks like it might go up a bit still
[2017-01-13 21:12:33] KyllingLolsson : Money flow still bad...
[2017-01-13 21:12:42] Apocalyptic : china losing it
[2017-01-13 21:12:57] anonymous123421 : We'll see, I'm not really set on where this will go, I have a small long open with low leverage
[2017-01-13 21:13:10] MrRGnome : anonymous123421: same
[2017-01-13 21:13:50] MrRGnome : Hoping to exit my long soon and catch another big dump. I love them dumps.
[2017-01-13 21:14:16] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: Yeah you get money a lot quicker
[2017-01-13 21:14:57] itsyourboy : MrRGnome: a big tasty dump
[2017-01-13 21:15:08] thedoc : people shorting for the next dump gonna push this higher
[2017-01-13 21:15:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 70000 @ 823.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-13 21:15:51] BTCDJS : FOMO'd back in
[2017-01-13 21:16:02] Ahhere : Ouch
[2017-01-13 21:16:07] abbey : thedoc: confirmed
[2017-01-13 21:16:10] thedoc : we didnt make new highs
[2017-01-13 21:16:12] thedoc : shorting
[2017-01-13 21:16:39] KyllingLolsson : This must be upper resistance
[2017-01-13 21:17:13] abbey : thedoc: u shorting now?
[2017-01-13 21:17:43] KyllingLolsson : Divergent pattern at money flow indicator... im shirt
[2017-01-13 21:18:49] Ahhere : I'm shart
[2017-01-13 21:19:13] thedoc : nah. china just waking up
[2017-01-13 21:19:14] Sinterklaas : im short @826.40 its filling now
[2017-01-13 21:19:35] BTCDJS : Ha!
[2017-01-13 21:19:48] BTCDJS : LONG
[2017-01-13 21:20:02] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: :)
[2017-01-13 21:22:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 300 @ 826.02
[2017-01-13 21:22:55] BTCDJS : Shorty got burned
[2017-01-13 21:22:58] rapidtrades : 2 hrs later still no deposit
[2017-01-13 21:23:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 826.37
[2017-01-13 21:23:29] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: What?? Bitcoin is DEAD
[2017-01-13 21:23:30] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: pay the miners rapid
[2017-01-13 21:23:31] thedoc : should have used ltc instead rapidtrades
[2017-01-13 21:24:10] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: margin till 898 so no stress
[2017-01-13 21:24:21] BTCDJS : One day Satoshi are going to be worth 1$. TX fees will be 365$
[2017-01-13 21:25:04] thedoc : btc almost new high
[2017-01-13 21:25:07] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: i paid 25 cents dood
[2017-01-13 21:25:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 1200 @ 5802.5
[2017-01-13 21:25:28] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: u so cheap
[2017-01-13 21:26:30] itsyourboy : set my stop too low, bollock
[2017-01-13 21:27:11] itsyourboy : back in
[2017-01-13 21:27:26] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: how many sats per byte did you pay?
[2017-01-13 21:27:29] thedoc : buy this dip and ride it up 10%
[2017-01-13 21:28:29] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: idk it was around 650 bytes so u do the math
[2017-01-13 21:28:32] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: If you paid less than 0.0000006 btc per byte you'll probably be waiting ~3 hours or more
[2017-01-13 21:29:46] MrRGnome : You want about a 0.000455 or 650 * 0.0000007 btc
[2017-01-13 21:30:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 500 @ 828.86
[2017-01-13 21:30:04] MrRGnome : It should confirm in a few hours, there is a bit of a backlog right now.
[2017-01-13 21:30:11] rapidtrades : like i said, u do the math
[2017-01-13 21:30:12] itsyourboy : here we gooo
[2017-01-13 21:30:20] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: Well as you can see, I did.
[2017-01-13 21:32:16] rapidtrades : well did i pay enough or what
[2017-01-13 21:32:34] MrRGnome : No if you paid 25 cents USd you payed about 0.0003
[2017-01-13 21:32:38] MrRGnome : you needed 0.000455
[2017-01-13 21:32:48] rapidtrades : f*ck off
[2017-01-13 21:32:50] MrRGnome : You'll wait about 3-4 hours total for your confirmation
[2017-01-13 21:33:11] rapidtrades : f*ck the miners and f*ck u buddy
[2017-01-13 21:33:31] MrRGnome : yeah, fuck me buddy.
[2017-01-13 21:34:18] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: Rude
[2017-01-13 21:35:05] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: he's from the miner lobby
[2017-01-13 21:35:21] MrRGnome : I wish.
[2017-01-13 21:35:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 1620 @ 0.013480
[2017-01-13 21:36:25] abbey : rapidtrades: mans cryin for cents, lol
[2017-01-13 21:36:26] thedoc : waiting for the big random pump to 6500 cny or some shit
[2017-01-13 21:36:43] thedoc : xmr breaking down
[2017-01-13 21:36:45] thedoc : zec rules
[2017-01-13 21:37:13] thedoc : btc short squeeze up a ton real quick soon
[2017-01-13 21:37:18] thedoc : then big dump down
[2017-01-13 21:37:27] BTCDJS : abbey: Your name is both a boy and a girls name. Which are you? girl or boy?
[2017-01-13 21:37:38] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: Rapid, you need to check the size of your transaction. Either use a wallet that show you how much you should pay to get it confirm in X block or just pay 50 cents maybe to get it sooner ? Not sure why you're blaming the miner "cartel" because you want to be a cheap ass
[2017-01-13 21:37:53] abbey : BTCDJS: i know, i'm male
[2017-01-13 21:38:08] abbey : it's my nick
[2017-01-13 21:38:30] BTCDJS : short for abigale?
[2017-01-13 21:38:47] abbey : no
[2017-01-13 21:39:10] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: If i look the last few block of my mining pool, we are getting like 0.5 BTC in bonus for transaction stamping, This isn't that much imo
[2017-01-13 21:39:23] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: and it's a full 1mb block
[2017-01-13 21:39:46] anonymous123421 : What do you guys think about the blocksize debate btw?
[2017-01-13 21:40:06] CaptainDean : Antpool should stop their f*cking empty block
[2017-01-13 21:40:33] CaptainDean : If they are finding a quick block after the previous, it's empty. It's retarded
[2017-01-13 21:41:31] CaptainDean : in fact a few of them are doing it
[2017-01-13 21:42:18] MrRGnome : CaptainDean: Antpool is exposing a pretty significant flaw in the current stratum system and miner incentives
[2017-01-13 21:42:47] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: got any math to prove it? lol
[2017-01-13 21:43:21] MrRGnome : Well what they are doing is listening to other mining pools for found block headers, which lets them know to start building on a new block early before it's actually ully published and propogated
[2017-01-13 21:43:37] MrRGnome : And then they are propogating their own blocks faster by mining them empty
[2017-01-13 21:44:20] MrRGnome : They are min-maxing at a pretty high level, they wouldn't be mining empty blocks if it wasn't worth it.
[2017-01-13 21:45:18] BTCDJS : I drifted off after "Well"
[2017-01-13 21:45:48] MrRGnome : Sorry I tried to keep it coherent.
[2017-01-13 21:46:27] BTCDJS : well I have had two glasses of wine so...
[2017-01-13 21:46:49] MrRGnome : That's a good idea, it's friday, bitcoin is up and I'm doing well
[2017-01-13 21:46:50] MrRGnome : Wine time
[2017-01-13 21:47:11] BTCDJS : yup.
[2017-01-13 21:52:20] rapidtrades : f*cking losers everyone here on a Friday night
[2017-01-13 21:52:34] rapidtrades : I'm not even married
[2017-01-13 21:52:45] rapidtrades : so can't use that excuse
[2017-01-13 21:54:58] Ahhere : rapidtrades: hey greed is good
[2017-01-13 21:55:24] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you're not married. But you're still here. Who's the loser?
[2017-01-13 21:55:52] BTCDJS : Married with two kids I am.
[2017-01-13 21:56:02] BTCDJS : This is my life
[2017-01-13 21:56:54] BTCDJS : Besides Im watching Fight Club now
[2017-01-13 21:57:01] BTCDJS : Multitasking
[2017-01-13 21:57:39] inconspic : BTCDJS: you're living the life
[2017-01-13 21:57:58] Ahhere : BTCDJS: multiscreen setup in the man cave?
[2017-01-13 21:58:23] Alignment : nice newsletter bitmex
[2017-01-13 21:58:28] BTCDJS : Ha no Lap top on my recliner
[2017-01-13 21:58:30] Alignment : its like the only newsletter im happy to receive
[2017-01-13 21:58:33] abbey : heh, this is a man thing
[2017-01-13 21:58:37] Alignment : you guys are incredible
[2017-01-13 22:01:02] abbey : my house is full of smoke, i burned my lunch on the pan, forgot about it watching this. I wish I had fight club to watch at the same time. :D
[2017-01-13 22:01:23] abbey : no wine for me, just beer:D
[2017-01-13 22:01:32] abbey : tonight
[2017-01-13 22:01:44] BTCDJS : abbey: Download KODI and you can watch anything
[2017-01-13 22:01:49] rapidtrades : u forgot cos u were watching charts
[2017-01-13 22:02:01] rapidtrades : ah to be newbe again
[2017-01-13 22:02:08] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-13 22:02:25] rapidtrades : I sleep like a baby these days even after losing/making thousands
[2017-01-13 22:02:30] abbey : rapidtrades: that's right, and this chat.
[2017-01-13 22:02:57] abbey : rapidtrades: and crying about cents, lol
[2017-01-13 22:03:14] rapidtrades : that's when I'm awake :)
[2017-01-13 22:03:16] abbey : BTCDJS: what is KODI?
[2017-01-13 22:03:28] BTCDJS : abbey: Kodi.tv
[2017-01-13 22:03:39] inconspic : rapidtrades: right, but you don't use the same % of your net? I bet it's a lot lower now
[2017-01-13 22:03:58] BTCDJS : download it. Then youtube how to put Ares wizard on it.
[2017-01-13 22:04:09] abbey : BTCDJS: i'll check that, thanks mate.
[2017-01-13 22:04:12] BTCDJS : Then use ares wizard to add exodus
[2017-01-13 22:04:28] rapidtrades : idk its always been 2-4%.....guess these days I'm bit better at not yoloing
[2017-01-13 22:04:42] BTCDJS : Exodus has all the movies and tv shows everybody else pays for
[2017-01-13 22:04:55] rapidtrades : there's risk size control and there's the size you actually put on :)
[2017-01-13 22:05:31] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: whats the max leverage you use?
[2017-01-13 22:05:33] inconspic : hmm okay, well, with 2-4% I would sleep like a baby as well :p
[2017-01-13 22:05:54] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: idk says 10 now
[2017-01-13 22:06:07] rapidtrades : i don't target leverage per say
[2017-01-13 22:06:20] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: would you use higher leverage for tiny amounts?
[2017-01-13 22:06:51] rapidtrades : i don't target leverage yo, i have risk per trade
[2017-01-13 22:07:00] rapidtrades : that risk determines the size
[2017-01-13 22:09:00] abbey : BTCDJS: i'm not that handy with computers, I'm sure my pc sucks all the worms and infections from their site, i think i'll pass. but thanks anyway, i didn't understand a word you said, lol.
[2017-01-13 22:10:16] johndoe : use adblock plus wherever you go on the net when downloading torrents or other similar sites. Stops all the ads and accidental clicks on potential viruses
[2017-01-13 22:10:33] MrRGnome : johndoe: ublock origin my man
[2017-01-13 22:10:44] johndoe : yeah i use ublock origin too actually
[2017-01-13 22:10:55] BTCDJS : abbey: Its easy. www.kodi.tv. Scroll down. Pick the download for your computer. MAC WINDOWS whatever. Download it. When its downloaded. Got to youtube. Type in Download ARES WIZARD LEATES 2016
[2017-01-13 22:11:00] johndoe : but most people prefer adblock plus since its more well known
[2017-01-13 22:11:08] BTCDJS : abbey: LATEST
[2017-01-13 22:11:21] nOgAnOo : I love you
[2017-01-13 22:11:21] abbey : johndoe: thanks, i have adblock+ on
[2017-01-13 22:11:28] nOgAnOo : I'm about to try my new heaters guise
[2017-01-13 22:11:32] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: not gonna lie that sounds shady as f*Ck
[2017-01-13 22:11:39] BTCDJS : abbey: The video will show you how to install ARES WIZARD
[2017-01-13 22:11:43] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: NOPE
[2017-01-13 22:12:31] BTCDJS : abbey: Inside ARES WIZARD there are these things called ADD ONS.
[2017-01-13 22:12:56] MrRGnome : caps don't actually make instructions clearer, it turns out.
[2017-01-13 22:13:22] BTCDJS : abbey: Choose EXODUS. Install it. When its installed you will find it in KODI under VIDEO ADD ONS
[2017-01-13 22:13:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 500 @ 838.31
[2017-01-13 22:13:46] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: they are highlighting key components
[2017-01-13 22:13:51] abbey : BTCDJS: how can you be sure that downloading them is safe?
[2017-01-13 22:13:56] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: not gonna lie that sounds ever more shady as f*ck
[2017-01-13 22:14:23] rapidtrades : download this and this and this and just trust me all, they're cool
[2017-01-13 22:14:43] thedoc : oh shit liftoff again
[2017-01-13 22:14:43] rapidtrades : guess u could do it on ur jerkofff tablet
[2017-01-13 22:15:00] BTCDJS : abbey: Because I have benn using it. And so has everybody in Britain for a couple of years now. You can put it on a PC MAC ANDROID BOX ANDROID PHONE
[2017-01-13 22:15:15] abbey : rapidtrades: have to agree with yoy about this one
[2017-01-13 22:15:26] abbey : *you
[2017-01-13 22:15:44] abbey : BTCDJS: That is not a quarantee to me
[2017-01-13 22:15:44] BTCDJS : Fair enough. I thought it was common knowledge
[2017-01-13 22:15:49] MrRGnome : BTCDJS: Didn't you hear? Britain killed itself bro. They were calling it Brexit. Everyone was really sad for a while.
[2017-01-13 22:17:21] BTCDJS : Yeah. Crazy. But majority thought brexit meant something good. Nobody really understood the implications. Some still pretend they know and wanted exactly this. Good job Im south African
[2017-01-13 22:18:38] abbey : BTCDJS: Maybe i've seen that site somewhere when surfing for free streams, but wasn't sure enough about that. Imo all of the free stream sites look shady to me and my safe browsing tools.
[2017-01-13 22:18:51] MikeHunt : you guys against brexit?
[2017-01-13 22:19:30] MrRGnome : I think it was short sighted, but I'm all for any peoples right to shoot themselves in the foot
[2017-01-13 22:19:50] MrRGnome : If Americans can have Trump surely leaving the EU seems reasoned and tempered.
[2017-01-13 22:20:16] abbey : MrRGnome: well put
[2017-01-13 22:20:16] BTCDJS : abbey: its the only one I trust. Almost everybody I know or work with are using kodi because sky is so expensive
[2017-01-13 22:20:34] MikeHunt : so staying inside what is essentially the EUSSR, is worth it over independence?
[2017-01-13 22:20:40] rapidtrades : man brits are so cheap
[2017-01-13 22:20:41] BTCDJS : Sky is a satellite provider
[2017-01-13 22:21:01] rapidtrades : no cable?
[2017-01-13 22:21:12] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: ~50% of country has access to cable
[2017-01-13 22:21:14] BTCDJS : nope
[2017-01-13 22:21:34] rapidtrades : why only 50%
[2017-01-13 22:21:40] BTCDJS : What would be classed as cable? Virgin? @MikeHunt
[2017-01-13 22:21:45] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: basically if a provider goes
[2017-01-13 22:21:48] abbey : ok, but maybe you have your pcs loaded with stuff you wouldn't want there. idk, better to play safe, i say.
[2017-01-13 22:22:13] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: basically if a provider goes over 50% coverage they get classed as a Significant Market Provider and get heavily regulated
[2017-01-13 22:22:26] BTCDJS : abbey: Yeah no problem. I have a mac. And its encrypted
[2017-01-13 22:22:31] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: yeh VM
[2017-01-13 22:22:56] abbey : i lived in uk 98-99, Preston.
[2017-01-13 22:23:15] MikeHunt : macs are overpriced, get a hackintosh and then encrypt it
[2017-01-13 22:23:51] rapidtrades : what's good encryption for windoze?