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[2017-01-13 17:01:59] ayy_lmao : dont like holding leveraged positions while asleep tho
[2017-01-13 17:02:03] jedisatoshi : got a bunch of limits buys stacked incase of a pullback
[2017-01-13 17:02:05] Rado : you never know how high it could go
[2017-01-13 17:02:30] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice, yah I got stopped out at 826 just now. Was sleeping just got up and checked the price lol
[2017-01-13 17:03:26] Dtrade16 : I'm looking to get back in around 800
[2017-01-13 17:03:31] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: stopped out? I thought you were long?
[2017-01-13 17:03:59] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Not anymore
[2017-01-13 17:04:30] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: oh so you took your profit at 826?
[2017-01-13 17:04:36] Dtrade16 : I was from 800 to 826, I set a stop and it got triggered
[2017-01-13 17:04:55] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah I wanted to take profit
[2017-01-13 17:05:01] thailand : so you mean a limit then
[2017-01-13 17:05:18] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yesterday I missed a 300 usd profit
[2017-01-13 17:05:55] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yeah you set a take profit limit
[2017-01-13 17:06:21] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah man who knows with this crazy thing
[2017-01-13 17:06:52] Dtrade16 : @jedisatoshi What price do you have your order at?
[2017-01-13 17:08:19] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: my entry is 820 but i have limits spaced out down to 780
[2017-01-13 17:10:04] aethlios : I wish there was a 12 month to go long with zero premium in the dump.
[2017-01-13 17:10:48] thailand : don't think the premium would get down to 0 on a 12 month ever lol
[2017-01-13 17:11:16] BetterNick : aethlios: there was a 9 month at cryptofaciliteis
[2017-01-13 17:11:29] thailand : and it was trading at a discount?
[2017-01-13 17:11:34] BetterNick : trading with a small premium some days ago
[2017-01-13 17:12:15] aethlios : BetterNick: do they have volume? are they legit? I don't have an account there
[2017-01-13 17:12:48] thailand : that is ridiculous
[2017-01-13 17:12:49] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-13 17:12:59] BetterNick : They are legit. But their site is extremely crappy.. and don't touch the 50x's. I got deleveraged but got informed 10 minutes too late.
[2017-01-13 17:13:06] BetterNick : That joke costed me $5000
[2017-01-13 17:13:44] BetterNick : And you trade always 1 bitcoin.. that can be problematic if you want to know your exact position. Very annoying.
[2017-01-13 17:14:09] BetterNick : But dunno if you want hedge or just do daytrading
[2017-01-13 17:14:55] BetterNick : Volume.. not so much. But it seems like they are quoting the futures themselves... and they like to have a filled orderbook.
[2017-01-13 17:14:57] thailand : you can only buy or sell contracts in 1 bitcoin increments?
[2017-01-13 17:15:01] BetterNick : correct
[2017-01-13 17:15:30] BetterNick : So if you buy 1 future at $700, you need to hedge it with 700 contracts here at bitmex
[2017-01-13 17:16:11] BetterNick : When you close your position at $900.. your counterparty buys a $900 contract.. you sell a $700 contract..
[2017-01-13 17:16:47] BetterNick : they fill up the $200.. very strange.. had a discussion with their CEO about that.. it smells fishy
[2017-01-13 17:17:27] thailand : they also require you verify the account before you can use, correct?
[2017-01-13 17:17:44] aethlios : BetterNick: so it is a quanto?? if you short 1 btc, you are short 1 btc and not 800 usd let;s say.
[2017-01-13 17:17:45] BetterNick : Yes, I think so.. but they're pretty fast
[2017-01-13 17:17:57] BetterNick : aethlios: no, it's not a quanto
[2017-01-13 17:18:19] BetterNick : I even think themselves they don't understand 100% what they are doing.
[2017-01-13 17:18:51] BetterNick : I had a long discussion with Timo about it.. in the end he admitted they did something "special".. but he didn't want to tell me what it was
[2017-01-13 17:18:57] BetterNick : i'm not joking
[2017-01-13 17:19:10] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/GxnvyMVJ/ based on this optimistic analysis of mine, september contract would be the best to go long the break out.
[2017-01-13 17:19:14] BetterNick : They play a you wine some, you loose some game i gueess
[2017-01-13 17:19:54] BetterNick : sep17 currently trades at $920 ask
[2017-01-13 17:20:07] BetterNick : but if you want to buy a lot.. do it step by step..
[2017-01-13 17:20:20] thailand : you holding any contracts or just trade out of them quickly?
[2017-01-13 17:20:26] BetterNick : I had a position of 120 btc and it was quite tough to close it
[2017-01-13 17:20:42] thailand : I'd imagine
[2017-01-13 17:20:54] BetterNick : I have a short over there of $40.000
[2017-01-13 17:21:06] BetterNick : and every 3 months i pull it to the next quarter
[2017-01-13 17:21:07] thailand : with you being one of the few users and liquidity provided by the company itself possibly lol
[2017-01-13 17:21:19] BetterNick : and get some premium.. it's my backup, lol
[2017-01-13 17:21:54] BetterNick : but during the big drop.. their website was so fucking slow
[2017-01-13 17:22:07] BetterNick : couldn't do a thing.. but just wait..
[2017-01-13 17:22:25] BetterNick : in the end that cost me $15,000.. just because it's a lousy crappy exchange..
[2017-01-13 17:22:36] BetterNick : but yeah, they;re legit
[2017-01-13 17:22:44] BetterNick : it's just a crappy exchange, lol
[2017-01-13 17:23:12] Sheriff : Is there no liquidation price on futures?
[2017-01-13 17:23:26] Sheriff : Nvm
[2017-01-13 17:23:55] aethlios : bitmex should add a 6month and a 12 month. liquidity will come in. we need a 12 month curve to trade the slope.
[2017-01-13 17:24:20] BetterNick : a 12-month is difficult to manage... don't you think?
[2017-01-13 17:24:26] BetterNick : by the exchange at least
[2017-01-13 17:24:29] BetterNick : mark price?
[2017-01-13 17:25:07] BetterNick : I know the guys from Deribit personally
[2017-01-13 17:25:25] BetterNick : Can talk to them about a 6/9/12 month
[2017-01-13 17:25:33] BetterNick : Why do think liquidity will come in?
[2017-01-13 17:25:35] thailand : how long has derebit been around?
[2017-01-13 17:25:35] thedoc : lol that dump hit 5555 cny on 0kcoin
[2017-01-13 17:25:47] BetterNick : since last july
[2017-01-13 17:27:11] BetterNick : they also have options, but i'm not sure the market is ready yet for options
[2017-01-13 17:29:37] Izakun : Y a t'il des francais ?
[2017-01-13 17:30:00] aethlios : BetterNick: we don't need 9 month, swap 3 month, 6month, 12 month. 12 month would be a wild thing, maybe 25x (not 100x) volatility high.
[2017-01-13 17:33:09] BetterNick : aethlios: Talking to John (ceo deribit) now...
[2017-01-13 17:33:29] BitMEX_Sam : We'd like to do longer-dated futs but liquidity has historically been an issue
[2017-01-13 17:33:46] BetterNick : Right now they're updating their system so a 12-month would be possible.
[2017-01-13 17:33:56] BitMEX_Sam : We would rather have a few liquid markets than many illiquid ones. But liquidity has consistently gotten better.
[2017-01-13 17:33:57] BetterNick : BitMEX_Sam: I get that.
[2017-01-13 17:34:10] aethlios : BetterNick: having the 12 month and 6 month adds more strategies, we can trade the curve.
[2017-01-13 17:35:04] BetterNick : aethlios: sure, but liquidity is needed
[2017-01-13 17:35:18] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Sam the problem was in the past the quanto style, with an inverse hedging is safer.
[2017-01-13 17:35:50] sleger : bitmex never had inverse long term futures ?
[2017-01-13 17:36:03] sleger : how would one know if liquidity would be an issue then ?
[2017-01-13 17:42:52] aethlios : I say add 12 month with 25x and let's see what happens. let the traders love it.
[2017-01-13 17:43:29] aethlios : swap, 3month and 12 month.
[2017-01-13 17:44:05] aethlios : if liquidity gets better increase leverage slowly.
[2017-01-13 17:44:47] rapidtrades : i want 1 month
[2017-01-13 17:45:02] BetterNick : aethlios: John of Deribit is thinking about a 12-month.
[2017-01-13 17:45:10] rapidtrades : u can't hedge on 12 months, things could spiral out of control
[2017-01-13 17:45:16] rapidtrades : even 3 is decey
[2017-01-13 17:45:20] rapidtrades : dicey
[2017-01-13 17:46:28] sleger : i think 3 months is long enough for my needs, and i can always roll its not a huge pain like the 7d alts futures
[2017-01-13 17:46:40] sleger : i'd like 14d or 1 month yes
[2017-01-13 17:46:43] i3 : Izakun: yyes
[2017-01-13 17:46:45] jung1 : hi
[2017-01-13 17:46:57] Izakun : i3: t'es francais ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:02] jung1 : eth classic gonna be updated in less than 2h
[2017-01-13 17:47:05] i3 : oui
[2017-01-13 17:47:11] Izakun : ta skype ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:24] i3 : je l'utilise pas sorry
[2017-01-13 17:47:29] sleger : that trollbox is english @Izakun @i3
[2017-01-13 17:47:36] rapidtrades : 3 months is too long to hedge cos if things turn around primium will spike and u can't unhedge until they crash back down or we get closer to expiry
[2017-01-13 17:47:45] Izakun : i3: autre ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:49] rapidtrades : ur kinda locked in for the duration
[2017-01-13 17:48:09] sleger : Izakun: speak english or go back to high school to learn it
[2017-01-13 17:48:22] i3 : sleger what''s the issue ,
[2017-01-13 17:48:25] sleger : or the chinese trollbox
[2017-01-13 17:48:33] Izakun : sleger: Who are you for say this ? an admin ?
[2017-01-13 17:48:40] sleger : Izakun: tyes
[2017-01-13 17:48:47] aethlios : rapidtrades: the same thing like 3 month. you trade in a higher spread. 12 month will be a btc with altcoin volatility.
[2017-01-13 17:48:59] Izakun : sleger: ok
[2017-01-13 17:49:09] i3 : Izakun: go IRC
[2017-01-13 17:50:25] Guest39829 : ok
[2017-01-13 17:53:28] rullwull : nice funding rate!
[2017-01-13 17:56:39] rapidtrades : lol @828
[2017-01-13 17:57:18] rapidtrades : r/bitcorn omg china banned leverage this is so good for bitcoin!
[2017-01-13 17:57:28] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: hey Rapid remember when you said you trade using momentum?
[2017-01-13 17:57:49] sleger : that's so 2016
[2017-01-13 17:57:55] rapidtrades : I haven't seen this mass delusion since the mtgox blowup
[2017-01-13 17:58:21] MikeHunt : i thought it'd crash
[2017-01-13 17:58:26] MikeHunt : since no more gambling
[2017-01-13 17:58:28] MikeHunt : weird
[2017-01-13 17:59:07] ayy_lmao : rapidtrades: from bulls or bears
[2017-01-13 17:59:08] ayy_lmao : ?
[2017-01-13 17:59:12] MikeHunt : chinese gov may regret making exchanges do that if bitcoin now rockets upwards
[2017-01-13 18:00:24] birdie numn : long from 799. should i cash in?
[2017-01-13 18:03:26] Sheriff : birdie numn: I think its very, very undervalued right now
[2017-01-13 18:03:35] Sinterklaas : birdie numn: no cash in at 989
[2017-01-13 18:04:13] Sinterklaas : just press 989 and close order, close your macbook and go have some fun this weekend
[2017-01-13 18:04:15] MikeHunt : probably another down cycle then more up
[2017-01-13 18:04:40] Sinterklaas : put some extra margin,
[2017-01-13 18:08:41] rapidtrades : my LIQ is $10 lower due to rapey funding, while price is $100 higher
[2017-01-13 18:08:46] rapidtrades : how does this make sense
[2017-01-13 18:10:12] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: bitmex is the new woodchipper?
[2017-01-13 18:11:02] rapidtrades : its just not a good product unless ur jumping in and out all the time and hedging with other sites
[2017-01-13 18:11:56] rapidtrades : guess that's what I have to do now instead
[2017-01-13 18:14:02] aethlios : rapidtrades: only could hedge shorting finex with 0.04% daily interest, nothing cheaper. also okcoin weekly was in discount and still is.
[2017-01-13 18:14:31] aethlios : or sell spot and stay in cash but have to sent all stamp finex
[2017-01-13 18:15:56] sleger : 0kcoin usd has almost closed the gap (because) and china also, that's momentum going
[2017-01-13 18:16:19] sleger : rapidtrades: you have to realise your pnl
[2017-01-13 18:17:27] rapidtrades : it's just dumb to pay for hedging ur BTC
[2017-01-13 18:17:48] rapidtrades : it's unnatural
[2017-01-13 18:28:58] rapidtrades : sleger: what do u mean by realize ur PnL
[2017-01-13 18:29:27] sleger : rapidtrades: close/reopen your position slowly
[2017-01-13 18:29:43] rapidtrades : play the premium discount game u mean?
[2017-01-13 18:30:09] sleger : rapidtrades: sorry i was confused i thought you needed to increase your available margin and you had unrealize gains
[2017-01-13 18:30:20] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-01-13 18:31:20] rapidtrades : at least I'll get 0.09% next funding, if I don't get ADLed with all the newbebes going long on this great news from China
[2017-01-13 18:44:13] Nooby : After this week more than900
[2017-01-13 18:50:00] abbey : rapidtrades: this is bullish as f**k, i'm sorry
[2017-01-13 18:51:49] Apocalyptic : what's the news?
[2017-01-13 18:52:21] rapidtrades : China banning leverage is apparently bullish for bitcoin
[2017-01-13 18:52:23] rapidtrades : lolz
[2017-01-13 18:52:44] BTCDJS : Its not a bad thing
[2017-01-13 18:52:55] rapidtrades : it is if ur bullish
[2017-01-13 18:53:07] BTCDJS : Not necessarily
[2017-01-13 18:53:15] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: BitMEX works great with Brave browser
[2017-01-13 18:53:20] Rado : minimal use of the CPU
[2017-01-13 18:53:51] rapidtrades : bitmex can we get new addresses so the NSA doesn't track our shit
[2017-01-13 18:54:24] BTCDJS : Yeah can we all have new wallet addresses every 4 months
[2017-01-13 18:54:39] rapidtrades : or is that a problem with 'multi-cigarretes'
[2017-01-13 18:55:05] rapidtrades : this is the only exchange that forces users to use the same one
[2017-01-13 18:55:15] BTCDJS : not forces
[2017-01-13 18:55:27] rapidtrades : well i guess u can multi account
[2017-01-13 18:55:30] BTCDJS : they say to get in touch if you want it changed
[2017-01-13 18:55:38] rapidtrades : ah rly?
[2017-01-13 18:55:41] rapidtrades : cool
[2017-01-13 18:55:43] BTCDJS : yup
[2017-01-13 18:55:55] BTCDJS : support@bitmex.com
[2017-01-13 18:56:47] rapidtrades : my friend Rapid Adl was thinking about joining
[2017-01-13 18:57:54] Apocalyptic : heh
[2017-01-13 18:58:09] BTCDJS : is he the boring version of you?
[2017-01-13 18:58:37] rapidtrades : the only boring version of me is the real-life version :)
[2017-01-13 18:59:19] Apocalyptic : so rapid, when do we see the 600s ?
[2017-01-13 18:59:55] rapidtrades : this month
[2017-01-13 19:00:33] Apocalyptic : great, can't come soon enough
[2017-01-13 19:01:53] abbey : rapidtrades: do you see 500s?
[2017-01-13 19:03:09] Nooby : Before that let nos touch 900$ and after we will sell :)
[2017-01-13 19:03:33] birdie numn : deal
[2017-01-13 19:04:13] birdie numn : and make sure u max your leverages guys, chyna left yuge shoues to dill
[2017-01-13 19:04:20] birdie numn : fill
[2017-01-13 19:05:36] abbey : yeah, max lev, eezy moniz
[2017-01-13 19:06:18] Nooby : Lol not so noobie... :)
[2017-01-13 19:10:18] Sinterklaas : so guys; you can change leverage while the order is already running?
[2017-01-13 19:10:25] thedoc : yeah
[2017-01-13 19:10:43] thedoc : just click the little box next to 100x and input your new leverage or slide the slider
[2017-01-13 19:10:55] Sinterklaas : ok;
[2017-01-13 19:11:04] thedoc : all it does is add or remove btc to your position to change your liquidation price
[2017-01-13 19:11:15] Sinterklaas : but what happens with the old profit you've made with the old leverage?
[2017-01-13 19:11:41] thedoc : the # of contracts isnt changing
[2017-01-13 19:11:56] Sinterklaas : so there is not more or lesser profit
[2017-01-13 19:12:22] thedoc : right.
[2017-01-13 19:17:28] Sinterklaas : but if i manually put extra margin, the leverage doest slide, but if i change leverage the % PNL changes>
[2017-01-13 19:17:39] BTCDJS : Correct
[2017-01-13 19:17:49] Sinterklaas : sorry for being stupid but usually i understand things ...
[2017-01-13 19:17:49] BTCDJS : i never slide
[2017-01-13 19:18:00] BTCDJS : i just add more margin
[2017-01-13 19:18:02] sleger : good shoes ?
[2017-01-13 19:18:17] BTCDJS : sleger: yeah timberland
[2017-01-13 19:19:09] Sinterklaas : what leverage is "normal" 50x?
[2017-01-13 19:19:17] birdie numn : yes
[2017-01-13 19:19:27] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: not really
[2017-01-13 19:19:33] Sinterklaas : ohw
[2017-01-13 19:19:39] BTCDJS : 5x seems the norm
[2017-01-13 19:19:45] birdie numn : for noganoo it is
[2017-01-13 19:20:14] BTCDJS : he does 100x
[2017-01-13 19:20:21] birdie numn : im at x20 and tbh its kinda nervewrecking
[2017-01-13 19:21:06] birdie numn : just o.2 btc but still
[2017-01-13 19:21:16] BTCDJS : to be honest. I do 50x a lot
[2017-01-13 19:21:22] bingbongfly : anyone else having trouble wiith the orderbook not loading?
[2017-01-13 19:21:32] BTCDJS : i don't follow my own advice
[2017-01-13 19:21:40] bingbongfly : specifically XBTH17
[2017-01-13 19:21:44] abbey : BTCDJS: same
[2017-01-13 19:22:16] birdie numn : do you sleep on x50 or just stare at the charts 24/7 @BTCDJS
[2017-01-13 19:22:18] BTCDJS : But only small amounts
[2017-01-13 19:22:29] BTCDJS : birdie numn: sleep
[2017-01-13 19:22:46] birdie numn : get liquidated sometimes?
[2017-01-13 19:22:50] abbey : I learned to use stop orders
[2017-01-13 19:23:24] BTCDJS : yes I do if I think it has a chance I leave it. If not I close begore
[2017-01-13 19:23:30] rapidtrades : don't feel so great
[2017-01-13 19:23:39] rapidtrades : either subway or the ice cream f*cked me
[2017-01-13 19:24:08] Nooby : Come on where are the 900's?? Lol
[2017-01-13 19:24:29] BTCDJS : abbey: I only use stops when the trade is well on its way away from my entry price
[2017-01-13 19:24:54] Apocalyptic : Nooby: you're in for a rude awakening
[2017-01-13 19:25:16] itsyourboy : Nooby: yeah we're about to start the next dump
[2017-01-13 19:25:36] BTCDJS : birdie numn: I get liquidated when the trade hasn't moved much since entry and I can't set a stop yet basically
[2017-01-13 19:25:44] Nooby : Lol i m not sure guys... let see
[2017-01-13 19:25:48] BTCDJS : but like I say. Small amounts
[2017-01-13 19:25:59] abbey : BTCDJS: so do I usually, but it depends on the situation.
[2017-01-13 19:26:22] BTCDJS : Yeah
[2017-01-13 19:26:30] Nooby : If it reaches 830 so I buy
[2017-01-13 19:27:03] BTCDJS : I exited my long and have another order at 800
[2017-01-13 19:27:26] itsyourboy : Nooby: how long do you intend on holding that position?
[2017-01-13 19:27:43] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: take some paracetamol
[2017-01-13 19:27:49] rapidtrades : why does the cost of spending ur last btc in a wallet skyrocket?
[2017-01-13 19:27:54] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: @ 800? what? a short?
[2017-01-13 19:28:11] rapidtrades : and how do I collect the dust without paying crazy fees?
[2017-01-13 19:28:23] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: no short. I just closed long and created another long at 800
[2017-01-13 19:28:43] Nooby : Till 900+ I really think it will go to 939 after reaching 830
[2017-01-13 19:29:06] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you wait til bitcoin scales
[2017-01-13 19:29:27] thedoc : btc bull flagging
[2017-01-13 19:29:27] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: You can always try to push low or no fee transactions on a long term repeat, and hope the transactions get broadcast by some good samaritan at some point.
[2017-01-13 19:29:40] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: ok, but if it stays high the long order won't get filled right?
[2017-01-13 19:30:19] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: yup
[2017-01-13 19:30:35] BTCDJS : And I'm ok with that
[2017-01-13 19:30:57] Sinterklaas : because another long is running than anyway
[2017-01-13 19:32:18] EasyChanges : what do you think about btc ? it will fall ?
[2017-01-13 19:32:33] MrRGnome : EasyChanges: It will fall, it will rise, it will fall, it will rise.
[2017-01-13 19:32:59] MrRGnome : BTC is the alpha and omega, the beginning and end. The banned and unbannable.
[2017-01-13 19:33:16] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: I made 390% profit off my long from 772 to 820
[2017-01-13 19:33:26] Sinterklaas : nice
[2017-01-13 19:33:40] BTCDJS : I think it will drop 50%
[2017-01-13 19:33:51] BTCDJS : if I'm wrong its ok.
[2017-01-13 19:33:56] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: that's great news!
[2017-01-13 19:33:59] Sinterklaas : @BTCDJS what will drop?
[2017-01-13 19:34:01] Sinterklaas : btc?
[2017-01-13 19:34:06] Apocalyptic : if only you could make it happen
[2017-01-13 19:34:07] BTCDJS : yup
[2017-01-13 19:34:11] Sinterklaas : to 400?
[2017-01-13 19:34:13] BTCDJS : 20$
[2017-01-13 19:34:21] BTCDJS : no
[2017-01-13 19:34:31] Sinterklaas : 800 ish
[2017-01-13 19:34:35] sleger : 20% is NOT 50%
[2017-01-13 19:34:38] MrRGnome : $400 would make me so happy right now.
[2017-01-13 19:34:43] sleger : *20$ is NOT 50%
[2017-01-13 19:35:09] Apocalyptic : "In case of extreme fall the support is the price area between 580 and 660 USD" says Enky
[2017-01-13 19:35:24] BTCDJS : sleger: from 752 it is
[2017-01-13 19:35:34] Apocalyptic : lolwhat
[2017-01-13 19:39:01] BTCDJS : Apocalyptic: Im taking the piss mate ?
[2017-01-13 19:41:16] thedoc : be sure to get that funding rate in 18 minutes
[2017-01-13 19:50:00] BitMEX_Greg : :+1:
[2017-01-13 19:51:02] BTCDJS : give me that funding rate. You know what Ill do with the money?
[2017-01-13 19:51:14] thedoc : we be dooming
[2017-01-13 19:51:37] Apocalyptic : come on China give us 5k already
[2017-01-13 19:51:40] BTCDJS : thedoc: to 800
[2017-01-13 19:51:59] BTCDJS : or 791 maybe
[2017-01-13 19:55:48] itsyourboy : Nooby: Did say hold off that long for a minute
[2017-01-13 19:55:57] itsyourboy : hope you didnt place it!
[2017-01-13 19:56:06] itsyourboy : (if it was a short term position)
[2017-01-13 19:58:00] Sinterklaas : i don't think it will go down that much? there is no cause for that
[2017-01-13 19:58:48] itsyourboy : it doesnt take much for the price to absolutely tank
[2017-01-13 19:59:38] itsyourboy : on the whim of a big sell at a good profit taking point, like if you were long from that last low and the momentum slowed up at 829... good time to close!
[2017-01-13 20:00:35] Sinterklaas : and now it goes to 800-804 and then up a bit
[2017-01-13 20:01:03] Apocalyptic : lol, fo sho as would rapid say
[2017-01-13 20:01:26] BTCDJS : Sinterklaas: I wouldn't put 1BTC at 100x on it. But it is a possibility
[2017-01-13 20:02:15] BTCDJS : If it plays out. I will wish I did lol
[2017-01-13 20:03:24] birdie numn : im out of my long from 817 if it breaks even. getting scared
[2017-01-13 20:03:32] Sinterklaas : as we all know that i wish and i wanted and i would shit i should have etc tec
[2017-01-13 20:04:37] itsyourboy : the next 15-30 mins i think will be critical to where this goes and my moneys on down. good luck all
[2017-01-13 20:04:40] BTCDJS : birdie numn: hope its not influence from troll box talk
[2017-01-13 20:05:04] itsyourboy : BTCDJS: not tryin to influence, will pipe down!
[2017-01-13 20:05:13] birdie numn : i hoped for a steady rise but there doesnt seem to really be any momentum upwards
[2017-01-13 20:05:17] BTCDJS : itsyourboy: not you mate
[2017-01-13 20:05:27] BTCDJS : we can say what we want
[2017-01-13 20:07:19] itsyourboy : birdie numn: it looks like it's having a go, i've gambled by making my decision early
[2017-01-13 20:08:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 12 @ 819.66
[2017-01-13 20:09:33] birdie numn : hodl
[2017-01-13 20:09:53] itsyourboy : birdie numn: back to reddit
[2017-01-13 20:10:02] abbey : the smartest TRADE decisions are always made early @itsyourboy
[2017-01-13 20:10:30] birdie numn : itsyourboy: meow :)
[2017-01-13 20:10:52] itsyourboy : birdie numn: aha i'm messing!
[2017-01-13 20:16:36] itsyourboy : birdie numn: I think if you believe in BTC long term then HODL and cost averaging through accumulation at perceived low points is a good idea
[2017-01-13 20:19:57] abbey : yes, the bull is strong on btc
[2017-01-13 20:20:46] abbey : but it's gonna be bouncy
[2017-01-13 20:21:00] abbey : as always on the run
[2017-01-13 20:21:24] abbey : imho oc
[2017-01-13 20:22:21] birdie numn : itsyourboy: i have faith but the leverage is too tempting. if ill gamble through my first bitcoin then i must take your advice.
[2017-01-13 20:25:52] birdie numn : but masterplan is to accumulate coin not cash out fiat
[2017-01-13 20:27:02] itsyourboy : personally i have a stash i never touch and add to when the price is really low, then i trade a small percentage on leverage
[2017-01-13 20:39:17] KyllingLolsson : Going short
[2017-01-13 20:39:38] KyllingLolsson : rly weak upswings
[2017-01-13 20:39:55] KyllingLolsson : downtrend not done yet.
[2017-01-13 20:40:39] KyllingLolsson : weaker moneyflow, and overbought stochastic. Still under the 200 ema...
[2017-01-13 20:43:06] Sinterklaas : how short?? how low you think it'll go?
[2017-01-13 20:43:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2 @ 816.88 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-13 20:43:39] KyllingLolsson : maybe 750 (xbth17
[2017-01-13 20:44:07] KyllingLolsson : 200 contracts at x25
[2017-01-13 20:44:13] KyllingLolsson : i meant 2000
[2017-01-13 20:45:23] itsyourboy : my exit is 785
[2017-01-13 20:45:30] KyllingLolsson : mine too
[2017-01-13 20:45:38] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: there is support at 800 though
[2017-01-13 20:46:09] KyllingLolsson : Yeah, maybe in the short term... But long term says down
[2017-01-13 20:46:20] KyllingLolsson : I trade the trend
[2017-01-13 20:46:43] Apocalyptic : KyllingLolsson: 5700 CNY was almost a perfect 50% retracement of that big dump
[2017-01-13 20:47:07] Apocalyptic : amazing how btc follows these ratios
[2017-01-13 20:47:48] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: trends not broken yet
[2017-01-13 20:48:03] KyllingLolsson : I think it could bounce at 760 usd for a little while
[2017-01-13 20:48:21] KyllingLolsson : BTCDJS: How?
[2017-01-13 20:48:34] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: dude we broke the uptrend two weeks ago
[2017-01-13 20:48:42] Apocalyptic : but nvm
[2017-01-13 20:48:48] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: which chart are you using?
[2017-01-13 20:48:57] BTCDJS : CNY?
[2017-01-13 20:48:59] Apocalyptic : *a week
[2017-01-13 20:49:07] KyllingLolsson : Yep, adn daily
[2017-01-13 20:49:17] BTCDJS : yes that is broken
[2017-01-13 20:49:25] BTCDJS : but use held
[2017-01-13 20:49:40] BTCDJS : USD
[2017-01-13 20:50:17] KyllingLolsson : But really strong support at circa 680 usd
[2017-01-13 20:50:41] BTCDJS : and china isnt using leverage anymore. that goes both ways
[2017-01-13 20:50:51] BTCDJS : KyllingLolsson: agree
[2017-01-13 20:51:23] BTCDJS : that doesn't mean goto there yet though
[2017-01-13 20:53:31] BTCDJS : Depends on news though. But from TA perspective USD is still ok
[2017-01-13 20:54:02] BTCDJS : As for china breaking the trend. That was panic
[2017-01-13 21:09:20] KyllingLolsson : Uhhh stop sidewayyyyssss...
[2017-01-13 21:09:40] KyllingLolsson : But... The more sideways the bigger drop
[2017-01-13 21:10:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 330 @ 0.013848
[2017-01-13 21:12:03] MrRGnome : Almost closed my long fearing a drop
[2017-01-13 21:12:12] MrRGnome : but looks like it might go up a bit still
[2017-01-13 21:12:33] KyllingLolsson : Money flow still bad...
[2017-01-13 21:12:42] Apocalyptic : china losing it
[2017-01-13 21:12:57] anonymous123421 : We'll see, I'm not really set on where this will go, I have a small long open with low leverage
[2017-01-13 21:13:10] MrRGnome : anonymous123421: same
[2017-01-13 21:13:50] MrRGnome : Hoping to exit my long soon and catch another big dump. I love them dumps.
[2017-01-13 21:14:16] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: Yeah you get money a lot quicker
[2017-01-13 21:14:57] itsyourboy : MrRGnome: a big tasty dump
[2017-01-13 21:15:08] thedoc : people shorting for the next dump gonna push this higher
[2017-01-13 21:15:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 70000 @ 823.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-13 21:15:51] BTCDJS : FOMO'd back in
[2017-01-13 21:16:02] Ahhere : Ouch
[2017-01-13 21:16:07] abbey : thedoc: confirmed
[2017-01-13 21:16:10] thedoc : we didnt make new highs
[2017-01-13 21:16:12] thedoc : shorting
[2017-01-13 21:16:39] KyllingLolsson : This must be upper resistance
[2017-01-13 21:17:13] abbey : thedoc: u shorting now?
[2017-01-13 21:17:43] KyllingLolsson : Divergent pattern at money flow indicator... im shirt
[2017-01-13 21:18:49] Ahhere : I'm shart
[2017-01-13 21:19:13] thedoc : nah. china just waking up
[2017-01-13 21:19:14] Sinterklaas : im short @826.40 its filling now
[2017-01-13 21:19:35] BTCDJS : Ha!
[2017-01-13 21:19:48] BTCDJS : LONG
[2017-01-13 21:20:02] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: :)
[2017-01-13 21:22:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 300 @ 826.02
[2017-01-13 21:22:55] BTCDJS : Shorty got burned
[2017-01-13 21:22:58] rapidtrades : 2 hrs later still no deposit
[2017-01-13 21:23:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 826.37
[2017-01-13 21:23:29] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: What?? Bitcoin is DEAD
[2017-01-13 21:23:30] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: pay the miners rapid
[2017-01-13 21:23:31] thedoc : should have used ltc instead rapidtrades
[2017-01-13 21:24:10] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: margin till 898 so no stress
[2017-01-13 21:24:21] BTCDJS : One day Satoshi are going to be worth 1$. TX fees will be 365$
[2017-01-13 21:25:04] thedoc : btc almost new high
[2017-01-13 21:25:07] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: i paid 25 cents dood
[2017-01-13 21:25:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 1200 @ 5802.5
[2017-01-13 21:25:28] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: u so cheap
[2017-01-13 21:26:30] itsyourboy : set my stop too low, bollock
[2017-01-13 21:27:11] itsyourboy : back in
[2017-01-13 21:27:26] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: how many sats per byte did you pay?
[2017-01-13 21:27:29] thedoc : buy this dip and ride it up 10%
[2017-01-13 21:28:29] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: idk it was around 650 bytes so u do the math
[2017-01-13 21:28:32] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: If you paid less than 0.0000006 btc per byte you'll probably be waiting ~3 hours or more
[2017-01-13 21:29:46] MrRGnome : You want about a 0.000455 or 650 * 0.0000007 btc
[2017-01-13 21:30:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 500 @ 828.86
[2017-01-13 21:30:04] MrRGnome : It should confirm in a few hours, there is a bit of a backlog right now.
[2017-01-13 21:30:11] rapidtrades : like i said, u do the math
[2017-01-13 21:30:12] itsyourboy : here we gooo
[2017-01-13 21:30:20] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: Well as you can see, I did.
[2017-01-13 21:32:16] rapidtrades : well did i pay enough or what
[2017-01-13 21:32:34] MrRGnome : No if you paid 25 cents USd you payed about 0.0003
[2017-01-13 21:32:38] MrRGnome : you needed 0.000455
[2017-01-13 21:32:48] rapidtrades : f*ck off
[2017-01-13 21:32:50] MrRGnome : You'll wait about 3-4 hours total for your confirmation
[2017-01-13 21:33:11] rapidtrades : f*ck the miners and f*ck u buddy
[2017-01-13 21:33:31] MrRGnome : yeah, fuck me buddy.
[2017-01-13 21:34:18] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: Rude
[2017-01-13 21:35:05] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: he's from the miner lobby
[2017-01-13 21:35:21] MrRGnome : I wish.
[2017-01-13 21:35:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 1620 @ 0.013480
[2017-01-13 21:36:25] abbey : rapidtrades: mans cryin for cents, lol
[2017-01-13 21:36:26] thedoc : waiting for the big random pump to 6500 cny or some shit
[2017-01-13 21:36:43] thedoc : xmr breaking down
[2017-01-13 21:36:45] thedoc : zec rules
[2017-01-13 21:37:13] thedoc : btc short squeeze up a ton real quick soon
[2017-01-13 21:37:18] thedoc : then big dump down
[2017-01-13 21:37:27] BTCDJS : abbey: Your name is both a boy and a girls name. Which are you? girl or boy?
[2017-01-13 21:37:38] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: Rapid, you need to check the size of your transaction. Either use a wallet that show you how much you should pay to get it confirm in X block or just pay 50 cents maybe to get it sooner ? Not sure why you're blaming the miner "cartel" because you want to be a cheap ass
[2017-01-13 21:37:53] abbey : BTCDJS: i know, i'm male
[2017-01-13 21:38:08] abbey : it's my nick
[2017-01-13 21:38:30] BTCDJS : short for abigale?
[2017-01-13 21:38:47] abbey : no
[2017-01-13 21:39:10] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: If i look the last few block of my mining pool, we are getting like 0.5 BTC in bonus for transaction stamping, This isn't that much imo
[2017-01-13 21:39:23] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: and it's a full 1mb block
[2017-01-13 21:39:46] anonymous123421 : What do you guys think about the blocksize debate btw?
[2017-01-13 21:40:06] CaptainDean : Antpool should stop their f*cking empty block
[2017-01-13 21:40:33] CaptainDean : If they are finding a quick block after the previous, it's empty. It's retarded
[2017-01-13 21:41:31] CaptainDean : in fact a few of them are doing it
[2017-01-13 21:42:18] MrRGnome : CaptainDean: Antpool is exposing a pretty significant flaw in the current stratum system and miner incentives
[2017-01-13 21:42:47] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: got any math to prove it? lol
[2017-01-13 21:43:21] MrRGnome : Well what they are doing is listening to other mining pools for found block headers, which lets them know to start building on a new block early before it's actually ully published and propogated
[2017-01-13 21:43:37] MrRGnome : And then they are propogating their own blocks faster by mining them empty
[2017-01-13 21:44:20] MrRGnome : They are min-maxing at a pretty high level, they wouldn't be mining empty blocks if it wasn't worth it.
[2017-01-13 21:45:18] BTCDJS : I drifted off after "Well"
[2017-01-13 21:45:48] MrRGnome : Sorry I tried to keep it coherent.
[2017-01-13 21:46:27] BTCDJS : well I have had two glasses of wine so...
[2017-01-13 21:46:49] MrRGnome : That's a good idea, it's friday, bitcoin is up and I'm doing well
[2017-01-13 21:46:50] MrRGnome : Wine time
[2017-01-13 21:47:11] BTCDJS : yup.
[2017-01-13 21:52:20] rapidtrades : f*cking losers everyone here on a Friday night
[2017-01-13 21:52:34] rapidtrades : I'm not even married
[2017-01-13 21:52:45] rapidtrades : so can't use that excuse
[2017-01-13 21:54:58] Ahhere : rapidtrades: hey greed is good
[2017-01-13 21:55:24] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you're not married. But you're still here. Who's the loser?
[2017-01-13 21:55:52] BTCDJS : Married with two kids I am.
[2017-01-13 21:56:02] BTCDJS : This is my life
[2017-01-13 21:56:54] BTCDJS : Besides Im watching Fight Club now
[2017-01-13 21:57:01] BTCDJS : Multitasking
[2017-01-13 21:57:39] inconspic : BTCDJS: you're living the life
[2017-01-13 21:57:58] Ahhere : BTCDJS: multiscreen setup in the man cave?
[2017-01-13 21:58:23] Alignment : nice newsletter bitmex
[2017-01-13 21:58:28] BTCDJS : Ha no Lap top on my recliner
[2017-01-13 21:58:30] Alignment : its like the only newsletter im happy to receive
[2017-01-13 21:58:33] abbey : heh, this is a man thing
[2017-01-13 21:58:37] Alignment : you guys are incredible
[2017-01-13 22:01:02] abbey : my house is full of smoke, i burned my lunch on the pan, forgot about it watching this. I wish I had fight club to watch at the same time. :D
[2017-01-13 22:01:23] abbey : no wine for me, just beer:D
[2017-01-13 22:01:32] abbey : tonight
[2017-01-13 22:01:44] BTCDJS : abbey: Download KODI and you can watch anything
[2017-01-13 22:01:49] rapidtrades : u forgot cos u were watching charts
[2017-01-13 22:02:01] rapidtrades : ah to be newbe again
[2017-01-13 22:02:08] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-13 22:02:25] rapidtrades : I sleep like a baby these days even after losing/making thousands
[2017-01-13 22:02:30] abbey : rapidtrades: that's right, and this chat.
[2017-01-13 22:02:57] abbey : rapidtrades: and crying about cents, lol
[2017-01-13 22:03:14] rapidtrades : that's when I'm awake :)
[2017-01-13 22:03:16] abbey : BTCDJS: what is KODI?
[2017-01-13 22:03:28] BTCDJS : abbey: Kodi.tv
[2017-01-13 22:03:39] inconspic : rapidtrades: right, but you don't use the same % of your net? I bet it's a lot lower now
[2017-01-13 22:03:58] BTCDJS : download it. Then youtube how to put Ares wizard on it.
[2017-01-13 22:04:09] abbey : BTCDJS: i'll check that, thanks mate.
[2017-01-13 22:04:12] BTCDJS : Then use ares wizard to add exodus
[2017-01-13 22:04:28] rapidtrades : idk its always been 2-4%.....guess these days I'm bit better at not yoloing
[2017-01-13 22:04:42] BTCDJS : Exodus has all the movies and tv shows everybody else pays for
[2017-01-13 22:04:55] rapidtrades : there's risk size control and there's the size you actually put on :)
[2017-01-13 22:05:31] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: whats the max leverage you use?
[2017-01-13 22:05:33] inconspic : hmm okay, well, with 2-4% I would sleep like a baby as well :p
[2017-01-13 22:05:54] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: idk says 10 now
[2017-01-13 22:06:07] rapidtrades : i don't target leverage per say
[2017-01-13 22:06:20] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: would you use higher leverage for tiny amounts?
[2017-01-13 22:06:51] rapidtrades : i don't target leverage yo, i have risk per trade
[2017-01-13 22:07:00] rapidtrades : that risk determines the size
[2017-01-13 22:09:00] abbey : BTCDJS: i'm not that handy with computers, I'm sure my pc sucks all the worms and infections from their site, i think i'll pass. but thanks anyway, i didn't understand a word you said, lol.
[2017-01-13 22:10:16] johndoe : use adblock plus wherever you go on the net when downloading torrents or other similar sites. Stops all the ads and accidental clicks on potential viruses
[2017-01-13 22:10:33] MrRGnome : johndoe: ublock origin my man
[2017-01-13 22:10:44] johndoe : yeah i use ublock origin too actually
[2017-01-13 22:10:55] BTCDJS : abbey: Its easy. www.kodi.tv. Scroll down. Pick the download for your computer. MAC WINDOWS whatever. Download it. When its downloaded. Got to youtube. Type in Download ARES WIZARD LEATES 2016
[2017-01-13 22:11:00] johndoe : but most people prefer adblock plus since its more well known
[2017-01-13 22:11:08] BTCDJS : abbey: LATEST
[2017-01-13 22:11:21] nOgAnOo : I love you
[2017-01-13 22:11:21] abbey : johndoe: thanks, i have adblock+ on
[2017-01-13 22:11:28] nOgAnOo : I'm about to try my new heaters guise
[2017-01-13 22:11:32] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: not gonna lie that sounds shady as f*Ck
[2017-01-13 22:11:39] BTCDJS : abbey: The video will show you how to install ARES WIZARD
[2017-01-13 22:11:43] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: NOPE
[2017-01-13 22:12:31] BTCDJS : abbey: Inside ARES WIZARD there are these things called ADD ONS.
[2017-01-13 22:12:56] MrRGnome : caps don't actually make instructions clearer, it turns out.
[2017-01-13 22:13:22] BTCDJS : abbey: Choose EXODUS. Install it. When its installed you will find it in KODI under VIDEO ADD ONS
[2017-01-13 22:13:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 500 @ 838.31
[2017-01-13 22:13:46] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: they are highlighting key components
[2017-01-13 22:13:51] abbey : BTCDJS: how can you be sure that downloading them is safe?
[2017-01-13 22:13:56] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: not gonna lie that sounds ever more shady as f*ck
[2017-01-13 22:14:23] rapidtrades : download this and this and this and just trust me all, they're cool
[2017-01-13 22:14:43] thedoc : oh shit liftoff again