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[2017-01-13 13:46:57] sleger : i hope the "trash" is not the warehouse where they store them before bringing into the store
[2017-01-13 13:47:04] nOgAnOo : Starting "dumpster-diving" tag
[2017-01-13 13:47:09] nOgAnOo : lol..
[2017-01-13 13:47:17] nOgAnOo : yes, dad helped me to clean out a warehouse
[2017-01-13 13:59:41] KyllingLolsson : I once found a used condom
[2017-01-13 14:01:23] themav : Hey do ETH contracts settle/close automatically?
[2017-01-13 14:02:05] birdie numn : nOgAnOo: when are you shorting this?
[2017-01-13 14:02:19] nOgAnOo : now
[2017-01-13 14:02:33] nOgAnOo : trying to get filled
[2017-01-13 14:02:54] nOgAnOo : brb breakfast
[2017-01-13 14:12:23] BitMEX_Wally : themav: 7D futures expire every 7 days on Fridays at 12:00 UTC which was 2 hours ago
[2017-01-13 14:12:49] sleger : funding = 0 is correct ?
[2017-01-13 14:13:21] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Yes it cannot change by more than 0.375%
[2017-01-13 14:20:32] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: have u given any thought to killing the swap, considering it's a terrible trading instrument
[2017-01-13 14:21:19] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: How so? It is the most liquid product on the platform, but if it doesn't suit then we always have the quarterly XBTH17 for you
[2017-01-13 14:22:03] rapidtrades : sleger: back me up brah
[2017-01-13 14:22:28] sleger : i dont know why they would kill the swap before killing factom ....
[2017-01-13 14:23:03] thailand : any consideration for options?
[2017-01-13 14:23:09] rapidtrades : because it sucks liquidity from other BTC trading products
[2017-01-13 14:23:35] nOgAnOo : DUDES
[2017-01-13 14:23:42] nOgAnOo : THOSE HEATERS I GOT ARE ACTUALLY SELLING ON EBAY
[2017-01-13 14:23:44] nOgAnOo : FOR FULL PRICE
[2017-01-13 14:23:53] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna get like 7 or 800 dollars for them
[2017-01-13 14:23:54] sleger : how much each ?
[2017-01-13 14:23:58] sleger : link ?
[2017-01-13 14:23:59] abz : To MOON or not to MOON? That's the question. https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@corvuscoraxx/fibonacci-time-zone-predicts-bitcoin-s-next-all-time-high
[2017-01-13 14:24:04] nOgAnOo : I have 3 models.. from 200 -450 each
[2017-01-13 14:24:12] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: how about an extra monthly contract then? 3 months is a rly long time to be short bitcoin
[2017-01-13 14:24:16] BitMEX_Greg : Maybe in the futre, @thailand , but options just don't have the interest behind them yet to spend $ developing it. There are already a few options exchanges out there but they have next to nothing in terms of volume
[2017-01-13 14:24:34] birdie numn : nOgAnOo: did u check if all work
[2017-01-13 14:24:39] nOgAnOo : Greg, I don't have to beg anymore. I found a bunch of loot in the dumpster last night
[2017-01-13 14:24:47] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: I know about deribit, what are the others?
[2017-01-13 14:24:49] nOgAnOo : Birdie, the electronics all fire up.. I have to get some fuel
[2017-01-13 14:24:59] nOgAnOo : they have never been used
[2017-01-13 14:25:14] thailand : BitMEX_Greg: yes, I noticed that. But you'd be the biggest name in the options department if you were to offer them as a product. I understand the liquidity issue however.
[2017-01-13 14:25:26] BTCDJS : themav: HEY! It's themav
[2017-01-13 14:25:32] BitMEX_Greg : nOgAnOo: Glad to hear it, make sure you get a hearty breakfast haha
[2017-01-13 14:25:36] nOgAnOo : Maybe I'll get a 3rd i7 laptop today
[2017-01-13 14:25:46] nOgAnOo : Yeah it's cold out here in North Mexico, Greg
[2017-01-13 14:25:54] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: wasn't there a singapore one, name escapes me now, lost in the ether
[2017-01-13 14:26:19] BitMEX_Greg : thailand: It's something we might consider in the future
[2017-01-13 14:26:32] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna go take pictures of my loot for my steemit article
[2017-01-13 14:26:46] nOgAnOo : or "schemeit" as I like to call it
[2017-01-13 14:27:05] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: why is the arrow green sometimes when the trade is red? look at XMR7D
[2017-01-13 14:27:44] sleger : look at the price
[2017-01-13 14:28:30] BitMEX_Greg : Alignment: So the arrows refer to the movement in price, but the colour refers to the direction of the trade. So price was moving up but someone sold into a bid
[2017-01-13 14:28:43] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: @sleger thx
[2017-01-13 14:29:19] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: could you get us longer future for alts? 7 days is too short we cant' do much with it
[2017-01-13 14:30:24] rapidtrades : +1
[2017-01-13 14:30:53] rapidtrades : sleger: ^ back him up brah
[2017-01-13 14:31:17] BitMEX_Greg : Alignment: Unlikely anytime soon, we have had this discussion several times before internally.
[2017-01-13 14:32:50] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: ok
[2017-01-13 14:33:29] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: do you provide liquidity? i see there was immediate trades after settlement or is the order book just trades trading with eacher others
[2017-01-13 14:34:20] BitMEX_Greg : Alignment: No, BitMEX does not provide liquidity. We do have an agreement with an anchor market maker that does
[2017-01-13 14:34:42] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: ah ok thx
[2017-01-13 14:34:52] BitMEX_Greg : There is no wash trading going on here, although we wouldn't really mind since they would just be paying us fees to do so
[2017-01-13 14:40:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 5000 @ 5564.9
[2017-01-13 14:42:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 800.96
[2017-01-13 14:44:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 600 @ 814.43
[2017-01-13 14:44:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4100 @ 802.87
[2017-01-13 14:44:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 802.96
[2017-01-13 14:44:17] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2017-01-13 14:44:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2000 @ 814.48
[2017-01-13 14:46:24] bingbongfly : This is Gentlemen.
[2017-01-13 14:46:25] nOgAnOo : woooooow
[2017-01-13 14:46:42] bingbongfly : poor shorters! I feel for them
[2017-01-13 14:46:53] bingbongfly : Never fun to be liquidated
[2017-01-13 14:46:57] nOgAnOo : nope
[2017-01-13 14:47:03] nOgAnOo : Gonna be living in a box for a while
[2017-01-13 14:47:26] nOgAnOo : Maybe they can get some free heaters out of the garbage like I did
[2017-01-13 14:47:33] nOgAnOo : to get back on their feet
[2017-01-13 14:49:04] ayy_lmao : 0% funding rate
[2017-01-13 14:49:05] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-13 14:51:10] nOgAnOo : :)
[2017-01-13 14:51:14] nOgAnOo : How are you this morning bear?
[2017-01-13 14:51:23] ayy_lmao : me?
[2017-01-13 14:51:26] nOgAnOo : yea
[2017-01-13 14:51:27] ayy_lmao : im not bear or bull
[2017-01-13 14:51:30] ayy_lmao : im a trader
[2017-01-13 14:51:39] nOgAnOo : I call everyone bear
[2017-01-13 14:51:41] nOgAnOo : :)
[2017-01-13 14:51:44] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-13 14:51:53] nOgAnOo : d00d
[2017-01-13 14:51:59] nOgAnOo : those heaters are selling for full price on ebay
[2017-01-13 14:52:00] ayy_lmao : doing good
[2017-01-13 14:52:00] nOgAnOo : every day
[2017-01-13 14:52:08] nOgAnOo : i'm gonna get 7 or 9 hundro out of em
[2017-01-13 14:52:14] nOgAnOo : 7 or 8*
[2017-01-13 14:52:24] nOgAnOo : just gotta go get some kerosene and test em
[2017-01-13 14:52:25] ayy_lmao : are they actually worth anything
[2017-01-13 14:52:31] ayy_lmao : yah
[2017-01-13 14:52:54] nOgAnOo : yeah man selling on ebay every day
[2017-01-13 14:52:59] nOgAnOo : for 400
[2017-01-13 14:53:44] BetterNick : rapidtrades: you mean Coinut.com?
[2017-01-13 14:54:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 110 @ 804.60
[2017-01-13 14:54:59] Rado : BTCE above China
[2017-01-13 14:55:18] Rado : did Chinese exchanges stop some of their bots?
[2017-01-13 14:55:30] nOgAnOo : lol
[2017-01-13 14:55:31] BetterNick : The futures and margin trading..
[2017-01-13 14:55:42] nOgAnOo : Good morning Rado
[2017-01-13 14:55:44] nOgAnOo : <3
[2017-01-13 14:55:45] BetterNick : hopefully we get a bit more stabilized market now
[2017-01-13 14:55:49] Rado : morning
[2017-01-13 14:57:00] nOgAnOo : I am a rich man today
[2017-01-13 14:57:51] nOgAnOo : Here is one of the heaters i got
[2017-01-13 14:57:56] nOgAnOo : just sold today for 450 dollars
[2017-01-13 14:57:58] nOgAnOo : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-MH-215T-KFA-Kerosene-Forced-Air-Heater-with-Thermostat-215-000-BTU-/272031087391?hash=item3f5650fb1f:g:CeoAAOSw5cNYYpZW
[2017-01-13 14:58:22] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: happy for you
[2017-01-13 14:58:34] nOgAnOo : Me too I'm gonna buy a LOT of WEED
[2017-01-13 14:58:53] nOgAnOo : and go 100x with the rest
[2017-01-13 14:59:00] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-01-13 14:59:12] Ahhere : lol how much do u smoke? I like to smoke a little in evenings.
[2017-01-13 14:59:25] nOgAnOo : I only smoke like an 8th in 2 weeks
[2017-01-13 14:59:41] nOgAnOo : I practice conservation tho
[2017-01-13 14:59:47] nOgAnOo : I eat hemp seed.. mangos..
[2017-01-13 14:59:54] nOgAnOo : and I do not let any smoke go to waste
[2017-01-13 15:00:08] nOgAnOo : I know people that smoke in a day what takes me a month
[2017-01-13 15:00:33] Ahhere : I'm not great at rolling my pro buddy tells me I waste half my weed. Getting a vaporiser for efficiency
[2017-01-13 15:00:45] nOgAnOo : I got one
[2017-01-13 15:00:48] nOgAnOo : From my dealer
[2017-01-13 15:00:51] themav : BTCDJS: hey man!
[2017-01-13 15:00:51] Ahhere : good?
[2017-01-13 15:01:02] nOgAnOo : Haven't tried yet.. looks like it costed 190 so it better be good
[2017-01-13 15:01:07] nOgAnOo : it's called the "dark knight"
[2017-01-13 15:01:22] Ahhere : cool he was charging me €200 so I wasn't sure if I was getting ripped off
[2017-01-13 15:01:25] nOgAnOo : hmm I'll try it now
[2017-01-13 15:01:28] nOgAnOo : actually
[2017-01-13 15:01:30] nOgAnOo : that sounds fun
[2017-01-13 15:01:32] Ahhere : haha
[2017-01-13 15:01:47] krtek.net : fomo :D
[2017-01-13 15:02:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 800 @ 806.42
[2017-01-13 15:02:27] abbey : Ahhere: get volcano, that's legendary quality vapor.
[2017-01-13 15:02:48] abbey : i've had one for years
[2017-01-13 15:03:15] abbey : moon?
[2017-01-13 15:03:33] abbey : weeee
[2017-01-13 15:03:51] Rado : H17 $10 premium
[2017-01-13 15:04:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 807.81
[2017-01-13 15:04:12] abbey : 5,6k critical
[2017-01-13 15:04:41] Ahhere : abbey: I'll check that out. Is it true they don't smell?
[2017-01-13 15:05:37] nOgAnOo : Vape smoke barely smells
[2017-01-13 15:05:39] abbey : only slight odor, doesn't make room or clothes stink
[2017-01-13 15:05:53] nOgAnOo : Ok I think it's charging now
[2017-01-13 15:06:03] nOgAnOo : I'll make a video review of it
[2017-01-13 15:06:06] nOgAnOo : :)
[2017-01-13 15:06:26] Ahhere : Shorts need to vape soon
[2017-01-13 15:06:39] abbey : :D
[2017-01-13 15:06:51] nOgAnOo : lol
[2017-01-13 15:07:51] Rado : I see another $40-50 advance on XBTH17
[2017-01-13 15:08:19] ayy_lmao : bitcoin looking good
[2017-01-13 15:10:25] abbey : trade carefully now guys
[2017-01-13 15:10:41] ayy_lmao : ^
[2017-01-13 15:11:10] VenCap : break 5550 on huobi rocket ship btc
[2017-01-13 15:12:15] Izakun : It's possible to play a song if the btc was under x$ ?
[2017-01-13 15:12:20] rapidtrades : oh look another dump into me rally
[2017-01-13 15:18:49] sleger : so no more leverage in china ?
[2017-01-13 15:19:25] sleger : didnt have a big market impact
[2017-01-13 15:19:43] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-01-13 15:20:20] abbey : sleger: that's the word and no big impact
[2017-01-13 15:20:34] sleger : its not bad news per se anyways
[2017-01-13 15:20:47] abbey : sleger: i think so too
[2017-01-13 15:21:50] Rado : it's really good for BTC if they remove the no commission trading and fake volume
[2017-01-13 15:22:08] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XBTH17/NvfJSpuv-Break-of-the-falling-wedge-to-bring-940s/
[2017-01-13 15:22:11] abbey : Rado: yep
[2017-01-13 15:22:16] Rado : $940 target on XBTH17
[2017-01-13 15:23:07] sleger : 930 is where bitmex deleveraged my short swap
[2017-01-13 15:25:22] ayy_lmao : rip
[2017-01-13 15:27:22] Rado : Entry price: 779.87
[2017-01-13 15:27:27] Rado : I always sell early though
[2017-01-13 15:27:28] nOgAnOo : Vape works awesome!!!!!
[2017-01-13 15:27:40] Rado : itchy fingers
[2017-01-13 15:28:03] Rado : I should be buying instead :-)
[2017-01-13 15:28:12] thailand : wait for your $940 Rado
[2017-01-13 15:28:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 813.91
[2017-01-13 15:28:33] Rado : thailand: I wish I can
[2017-01-13 15:28:49] nOgAnOo : I love you all this morning
[2017-01-13 15:29:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 100 @ 5707.2
[2017-01-13 15:29:40] VenCap : bitcoin clear path to the moon
[2017-01-13 15:29:48] VenCap : china news positive vibes
[2017-01-13 15:30:04] rapidtrades : perma-bull dreams never die
[2017-01-13 15:31:39] Rado : funding rate is 0%
[2017-01-13 15:31:43] Rado : first time I see this
[2017-01-13 15:33:47] jonny : bitcoin found peace
[2017-01-13 15:34:08] jonny : chinese central bank did it
[2017-01-13 15:35:00] nOgAnOo : I need some kerosene
[2017-01-13 15:36:00] sleger : nOgAnOo: use your zippo fuel
[2017-01-13 15:37:44] nOgAnOo : I need many gallons
[2017-01-13 15:38:18] sleger : check the othe r dumpsters ?
[2017-01-13 15:38:51] nOgAnOo : True
[2017-01-13 15:38:52] nOgAnOo : Good idea
[2017-01-13 15:43:38] jonny : glad i got some march31 at negative funding rate
[2017-01-13 15:44:09] jonny : (=when it was below index)
[2017-01-13 15:47:56] Rado : BTCChina has suspended margin loan service. Official notice is out.
[2017-01-13 15:48:01] Rado : w.btcchina.com/
[2017-01-13 15:48:11] Rado : www.btcchina.com/
[2017-01-13 15:48:15] Rado : damn links
[2017-01-13 15:48:17] emirate : why bitcoin drop
[2017-01-13 15:48:26] Rado : emirate: what drop?
[2017-01-13 15:49:26] emirate : bitcoin drop again in market
[2017-01-13 15:50:41] thedoc : no more margin trading
[2017-01-13 15:52:40] emirate : i think bitcoin is 1000$. but is drop to 800$
[2017-01-13 15:52:57] ayy_lmao : correction
[2017-01-13 15:53:08] ayy_lmao : cant go up nonstop
[2017-01-13 15:53:29] ayy_lmao : dont worry tho, btc still good
[2017-01-13 16:01:56] Rado : barely can call this a correction
[2017-01-13 16:02:09] Rado : dropped $5
[2017-01-13 16:03:37] thedoc : eth big dump
[2017-01-13 16:03:50] ayy_lmao : rado
[2017-01-13 16:03:57] nOgAnOo : I love you
[2017-01-13 16:04:06] ayy_lmao : a 200 dump from 1000 to 800 is $5
[2017-01-13 16:04:08] ayy_lmao : ok
[2017-01-13 16:04:27] Rado : ayy_lmao: I assumed he is talking about right now
[2017-01-13 16:04:37] Rado : not what happened over the last 2 weeks
[2017-01-13 16:07:22] Ahhere : @ayy_lmao ethusd quite stable and dare I say bullish
[2017-01-13 16:08:57] ayy_lmao : eth should be fine long term
[2017-01-13 16:09:07] ayy_lmao : short term chop
[2017-01-13 16:10:02] Rado : http://www.coindesk.com/china-bitcoin-exchanges-trading-policy-updates/
[2017-01-13 16:10:21] Ahhere : what are people's timeframes for trading. Hundreds a day 10s a day 1 a day 1 a week ?
[2017-01-13 16:10:44] ayy_lmao : what doe those numbers represent?
[2017-01-13 16:10:47] ayy_lmao : do
[2017-01-13 16:10:57] Rado : number of trades
[2017-01-13 16:11:02] Ahhere : A question about number of trades
[2017-01-13 16:11:06] Rado : Ahhere: It's different for everyne
[2017-01-13 16:11:15] Rado : everyone
[2017-01-13 16:11:35] Rado : sometimes I do 5-6 trades for the day
[2017-01-13 16:11:46] Rado : sometimes only one for the week
[2017-01-13 16:11:56] Rado : you can't force the market to do something
[2017-01-13 16:12:17] Ahhere : Less in turbulent times?
[2017-01-13 16:12:43] thailand : more
[2017-01-13 16:13:03] anonymous123421 : Is there a way to set a trailing stop with a percentage instead of a value?
[2017-01-13 16:16:11] BTCDJS : anonymous123421: no mate.
[2017-01-13 16:16:11] BitMEX_Greg : anonymous123421: Not at this moment, no
[2017-01-13 16:16:40] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: what about THIS moment?
[2017-01-13 16:16:49] anonymous123421 : Ok, that's unfortunate, is it a planned feature?
[2017-01-13 16:17:02] BitMEX_Greg : anonymous123421: We are looking into it
[2017-01-13 16:20:47] golem : BitMEX_Greg: I would like to ask question about current funding rate
[2017-01-13 16:21:01] golem : is that number 0.0000% correct ?
[2017-01-13 16:22:07] ayy_lmao : is rapid still short?
[2017-01-13 16:22:40] BitMEX_Sam : golem: Yes, it's correct this period
[2017-01-13 16:23:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 30000 @ 831.06
[2017-01-13 16:23:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 25 @ 821.47
[2017-01-13 16:23:25] golem : BitMEX_Sam: thank you
[2017-01-13 16:23:37] BitMEX_Greg : golem: Yes
[2017-01-13 16:24:31] nOgAnOo : Someone's not eating dinner tonight....
[2017-01-13 16:24:36] nOgAnOo : :(
[2017-01-13 16:25:05] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: was that you trollwhale?
[2017-01-13 16:25:15] nOgAnOo : no
[2017-01-13 16:25:17] nOgAnOo : I rekt an hour ago
[2017-01-13 16:25:24] nOgAnOo : on my 2.50
[2017-01-13 16:25:34] nOgAnOo : Back to steeming for me
[2017-01-13 16:25:41] nOgAnOo : and garbage diving
[2017-01-13 16:26:02] BitMEX_Sam : steeming garbage piles?
[2017-01-13 16:33:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 50000 @ 834.41 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-13 16:33:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 152 @ 822.92
[2017-01-13 16:33:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 21985 @ 822.85
[2017-01-13 16:34:10] javierstone : savage
[2017-01-13 16:34:19] emax : hi
[2017-01-13 16:34:22] thedoc : i longed quarterly at $829 before it pumped to $1320 last time. lets do it again!
[2017-01-13 16:34:41] emax : how i can close future bitcoin if price fall down 820 dollar?
[2017-01-13 16:34:48] thailand : there goes rapid's short
[2017-01-13 16:34:52] emax : all of this is nwe for me
[2017-01-13 16:36:49] Dtrade16 : Morning boys
[2017-01-13 16:36:58] nOgAnOo : Good morning
[2017-01-13 16:37:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 100 @ 5775.2
[2017-01-13 16:37:52] Dtrade16 : Long from 801
[2017-01-13 16:37:57] emax : ?
[2017-01-13 16:38:05] emax : i don't understand
[2017-01-13 16:38:20] BTCDJS : Feels nice to be long from 772
[2017-01-13 16:38:25] emax : stop market?
[2017-01-13 16:38:55] anonymous123421 : emax: yes
[2017-01-13 16:39:00] Dtrade16 : I called positive news as soon as it broke last night
[2017-01-13 16:39:41] Dtrade16 : Where's mike, hope he went long?
[2017-01-13 16:39:48] thedoc : man
[2017-01-13 16:40:06] BTCDJS : 863 or 950 guys
[2017-01-13 16:40:11] thedoc : price hit $750 like 12 hours ago on quarterly futures. didnt get a long in then
[2017-01-13 16:41:19] feeling8ts : great week
[2017-01-13 16:41:24] feeling8ts : did u feel it
[2017-01-13 16:42:04] ayy_lmao : BTCDJS: nice
[2017-01-13 16:42:35] emax : anonymous123421: can you explaine me?
[2017-01-13 16:44:17] anonymous123421 : A stop market order triggers when the price hit your stop price.
[2017-01-13 16:45:23] thedoc : china dumping
[2017-01-13 16:45:44] sleger : "The collateral will be exhausted if the price moves 30% below or above the entry price of longs and shorts respectively. Given that the exchanges themselves lent funds to speculators, should the price move further than 30% they would suffer a principal loss." <= is margin call not invented in china yet ?
[2017-01-13 16:45:55] javierstone : nice closed my futures long at the peak
[2017-01-13 16:46:18] BitMEX_Sam : Assuming they can close the liquidations.
[2017-01-13 16:47:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 10 @ 5724.2
[2017-01-13 16:48:21] sleger : but the wording is not correct, there is no direct cause consequence
[2017-01-13 16:48:39] sleger : it's like saying if the price drops here by 0.5% there WILL be ADL
[2017-01-13 16:48:46] sleger : oh wait
[2017-01-13 16:48:51] sleger : :p
[2017-01-13 16:51:29] BTCDJS : Lol
[2017-01-13 16:58:34] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: what up bro?
[2017-01-13 16:59:13] thedoc : eth has a far ways to fall
[2017-01-13 17:00:11] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Hey nm man you?
[2017-01-13 17:00:23] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: doing well i see!
[2017-01-13 17:01:00] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: yah thanks, I played the news story and it went up :P
[2017-01-13 17:01:09] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: I got out of that short last night for .5 BTC now long again. Wish I would have went long last night at the point i closed my short id be really nice
[2017-01-13 17:01:18] Dtrade16 : I was already long before though
[2017-01-13 17:01:19] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: Good Job my freind
[2017-01-13 17:01:22] ayy_lmao : same
[2017-01-13 17:01:36] jedisatoshi : yeah im long at 820
[2017-01-13 17:01:42] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: True. Thanks
[2017-01-13 17:01:57] Rado : javierstone: the peak for that 5 min interval
[2017-01-13 17:01:59] ayy_lmao : dont like holding leveraged positions while asleep tho
[2017-01-13 17:02:03] jedisatoshi : got a bunch of limits buys stacked incase of a pullback
[2017-01-13 17:02:05] Rado : you never know how high it could go
[2017-01-13 17:02:30] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice, yah I got stopped out at 826 just now. Was sleeping just got up and checked the price lol
[2017-01-13 17:03:26] Dtrade16 : I'm looking to get back in around 800
[2017-01-13 17:03:31] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: stopped out? I thought you were long?
[2017-01-13 17:03:59] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Not anymore
[2017-01-13 17:04:30] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: oh so you took your profit at 826?
[2017-01-13 17:04:36] Dtrade16 : I was from 800 to 826, I set a stop and it got triggered
[2017-01-13 17:04:55] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah I wanted to take profit
[2017-01-13 17:05:01] thailand : so you mean a limit then
[2017-01-13 17:05:18] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yesterday I missed a 300 usd profit
[2017-01-13 17:05:55] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yeah you set a take profit limit
[2017-01-13 17:06:21] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah man who knows with this crazy thing
[2017-01-13 17:06:52] Dtrade16 : @jedisatoshi What price do you have your order at?
[2017-01-13 17:08:19] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: my entry is 820 but i have limits spaced out down to 780
[2017-01-13 17:10:04] aethlios : I wish there was a 12 month to go long with zero premium in the dump.
[2017-01-13 17:10:48] thailand : don't think the premium would get down to 0 on a 12 month ever lol
[2017-01-13 17:11:16] BetterNick : aethlios: there was a 9 month at cryptofaciliteis
[2017-01-13 17:11:29] thailand : and it was trading at a discount?
[2017-01-13 17:11:34] BetterNick : trading with a small premium some days ago
[2017-01-13 17:12:15] aethlios : BetterNick: do they have volume? are they legit? I don't have an account there
[2017-01-13 17:12:48] thailand : that is ridiculous
[2017-01-13 17:12:49] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-13 17:12:59] BetterNick : They are legit. But their site is extremely crappy.. and don't touch the 50x's. I got deleveraged but got informed 10 minutes too late.
[2017-01-13 17:13:06] BetterNick : That joke costed me $5000
[2017-01-13 17:13:44] BetterNick : And you trade always 1 bitcoin.. that can be problematic if you want to know your exact position. Very annoying.
[2017-01-13 17:14:09] BetterNick : But dunno if you want hedge or just do daytrading
[2017-01-13 17:14:55] BetterNick : Volume.. not so much. But it seems like they are quoting the futures themselves... and they like to have a filled orderbook.
[2017-01-13 17:14:57] thailand : you can only buy or sell contracts in 1 bitcoin increments?
[2017-01-13 17:15:01] BetterNick : correct
[2017-01-13 17:15:30] BetterNick : So if you buy 1 future at $700, you need to hedge it with 700 contracts here at bitmex
[2017-01-13 17:16:11] BetterNick : When you close your position at $900.. your counterparty buys a $900 contract.. you sell a $700 contract..
[2017-01-13 17:16:47] BetterNick : they fill up the $200.. very strange.. had a discussion with their CEO about that.. it smells fishy
[2017-01-13 17:17:27] thailand : they also require you verify the account before you can use, correct?
[2017-01-13 17:17:44] aethlios : BetterNick: so it is a quanto?? if you short 1 btc, you are short 1 btc and not 800 usd let;s say.
[2017-01-13 17:17:45] BetterNick : Yes, I think so.. but they're pretty fast
[2017-01-13 17:17:57] BetterNick : aethlios: no, it's not a quanto
[2017-01-13 17:18:19] BetterNick : I even think themselves they don't understand 100% what they are doing.
[2017-01-13 17:18:51] BetterNick : I had a long discussion with Timo about it.. in the end he admitted they did something "special".. but he didn't want to tell me what it was
[2017-01-13 17:18:57] BetterNick : i'm not joking
[2017-01-13 17:19:10] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/GxnvyMVJ/ based on this optimistic analysis of mine, september contract would be the best to go long the break out.
[2017-01-13 17:19:14] BetterNick : They play a you wine some, you loose some game i gueess
[2017-01-13 17:19:54] BetterNick : sep17 currently trades at $920 ask
[2017-01-13 17:20:07] BetterNick : but if you want to buy a lot.. do it step by step..
[2017-01-13 17:20:20] thailand : you holding any contracts or just trade out of them quickly?
[2017-01-13 17:20:26] BetterNick : I had a position of 120 btc and it was quite tough to close it
[2017-01-13 17:20:42] thailand : I'd imagine
[2017-01-13 17:20:54] BetterNick : I have a short over there of $40.000
[2017-01-13 17:21:06] BetterNick : and every 3 months i pull it to the next quarter
[2017-01-13 17:21:07] thailand : with you being one of the few users and liquidity provided by the company itself possibly lol
[2017-01-13 17:21:19] BetterNick : and get some premium.. it's my backup, lol
[2017-01-13 17:21:54] BetterNick : but during the big drop.. their website was so fucking slow
[2017-01-13 17:22:07] BetterNick : couldn't do a thing.. but just wait..
[2017-01-13 17:22:25] BetterNick : in the end that cost me $15,000.. just because it's a lousy crappy exchange..
[2017-01-13 17:22:36] BetterNick : but yeah, they;re legit
[2017-01-13 17:22:44] BetterNick : it's just a crappy exchange, lol
[2017-01-13 17:23:12] Sheriff : Is there no liquidation price on futures?
[2017-01-13 17:23:26] Sheriff : Nvm
[2017-01-13 17:23:55] aethlios : bitmex should add a 6month and a 12 month. liquidity will come in. we need a 12 month curve to trade the slope.
[2017-01-13 17:24:20] BetterNick : a 12-month is difficult to manage... don't you think?
[2017-01-13 17:24:26] BetterNick : by the exchange at least
[2017-01-13 17:24:29] BetterNick : mark price?
[2017-01-13 17:25:07] BetterNick : I know the guys from Deribit personally
[2017-01-13 17:25:25] BetterNick : Can talk to them about a 6/9/12 month
[2017-01-13 17:25:33] BetterNick : Why do think liquidity will come in?
[2017-01-13 17:25:35] thailand : how long has derebit been around?
[2017-01-13 17:25:35] thedoc : lol that dump hit 5555 cny on 0kcoin
[2017-01-13 17:25:47] BetterNick : since last july
[2017-01-13 17:27:11] BetterNick : they also have options, but i'm not sure the market is ready yet for options
[2017-01-13 17:29:37] Izakun : Y a t'il des francais ?
[2017-01-13 17:30:00] aethlios : BetterNick: we don't need 9 month, swap 3 month, 6month, 12 month. 12 month would be a wild thing, maybe 25x (not 100x) volatility high.
[2017-01-13 17:33:09] BetterNick : aethlios: Talking to John (ceo deribit) now...
[2017-01-13 17:33:29] BitMEX_Sam : We'd like to do longer-dated futs but liquidity has historically been an issue
[2017-01-13 17:33:46] BetterNick : Right now they're updating their system so a 12-month would be possible.
[2017-01-13 17:33:56] BitMEX_Sam : We would rather have a few liquid markets than many illiquid ones. But liquidity has consistently gotten better.
[2017-01-13 17:33:57] BetterNick : BitMEX_Sam: I get that.
[2017-01-13 17:34:10] aethlios : BetterNick: having the 12 month and 6 month adds more strategies, we can trade the curve.
[2017-01-13 17:35:04] BetterNick : aethlios: sure, but liquidity is needed
[2017-01-13 17:35:18] aethlios : BitMEX_Sam: Sam the problem was in the past the quanto style, with an inverse hedging is safer.
[2017-01-13 17:35:50] sleger : bitmex never had inverse long term futures ?
[2017-01-13 17:36:03] sleger : how would one know if liquidity would be an issue then ?
[2017-01-13 17:42:52] aethlios : I say add 12 month with 25x and let's see what happens. let the traders love it.
[2017-01-13 17:43:29] aethlios : swap, 3month and 12 month.
[2017-01-13 17:44:05] aethlios : if liquidity gets better increase leverage slowly.
[2017-01-13 17:44:47] rapidtrades : i want 1 month
[2017-01-13 17:45:02] BetterNick : aethlios: John of Deribit is thinking about a 12-month.
[2017-01-13 17:45:10] rapidtrades : u can't hedge on 12 months, things could spiral out of control
[2017-01-13 17:45:16] rapidtrades : even 3 is decey
[2017-01-13 17:45:20] rapidtrades : dicey
[2017-01-13 17:46:28] sleger : i think 3 months is long enough for my needs, and i can always roll its not a huge pain like the 7d alts futures
[2017-01-13 17:46:40] sleger : i'd like 14d or 1 month yes
[2017-01-13 17:46:43] i3 : Izakun: yyes
[2017-01-13 17:46:45] jung1 : hi
[2017-01-13 17:46:57] Izakun : i3: t'es francais ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:02] jung1 : eth classic gonna be updated in less than 2h
[2017-01-13 17:47:05] i3 : oui
[2017-01-13 17:47:11] Izakun : ta skype ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:24] i3 : je l'utilise pas sorry
[2017-01-13 17:47:29] sleger : that trollbox is english @Izakun @i3
[2017-01-13 17:47:36] rapidtrades : 3 months is too long to hedge cos if things turn around primium will spike and u can't unhedge until they crash back down or we get closer to expiry
[2017-01-13 17:47:45] Izakun : i3: autre ?
[2017-01-13 17:47:49] rapidtrades : ur kinda locked in for the duration
[2017-01-13 17:48:09] sleger : Izakun: speak english or go back to high school to learn it
[2017-01-13 17:48:22] i3 : sleger what''s the issue ,
[2017-01-13 17:48:25] sleger : or the chinese trollbox
[2017-01-13 17:48:33] Izakun : sleger: Who are you for say this ? an admin ?
[2017-01-13 17:48:40] sleger : Izakun: tyes
[2017-01-13 17:48:47] aethlios : rapidtrades: the same thing like 3 month. you trade in a higher spread. 12 month will be a btc with altcoin volatility.
[2017-01-13 17:48:59] Izakun : sleger: ok
[2017-01-13 17:49:09] i3 : Izakun: go IRC
[2017-01-13 17:50:25] Guest39829 : ok
[2017-01-13 17:53:28] rullwull : nice funding rate!
[2017-01-13 17:56:39] rapidtrades : lol @828
[2017-01-13 17:57:18] rapidtrades : r/bitcorn omg china banned leverage this is so good for bitcoin!
[2017-01-13 17:57:28] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: hey Rapid remember when you said you trade using momentum?
[2017-01-13 17:57:49] sleger : that's so 2016
[2017-01-13 17:57:55] rapidtrades : I haven't seen this mass delusion since the mtgox blowup
[2017-01-13 17:58:21] MikeHunt : i thought it'd crash
[2017-01-13 17:58:26] MikeHunt : since no more gambling
[2017-01-13 17:58:28] MikeHunt : weird
[2017-01-13 17:59:07] ayy_lmao : rapidtrades: from bulls or bears
[2017-01-13 17:59:08] ayy_lmao : ?
[2017-01-13 17:59:12] MikeHunt : chinese gov may regret making exchanges do that if bitcoin now rockets upwards
[2017-01-13 18:00:24] birdie numn : long from 799. should i cash in?
[2017-01-13 18:03:26] Sheriff : birdie numn: I think its very, very undervalued right now
[2017-01-13 18:03:35] Sinterklaas : birdie numn: no cash in at 989
[2017-01-13 18:04:13] Sinterklaas : just press 989 and close order, close your macbook and go have some fun this weekend
[2017-01-13 18:04:15] MikeHunt : probably another down cycle then more up
[2017-01-13 18:04:40] Sinterklaas : put some extra margin,
[2017-01-13 18:08:41] rapidtrades : my LIQ is $10 lower due to rapey funding, while price is $100 higher
[2017-01-13 18:08:46] rapidtrades : how does this make sense
[2017-01-13 18:10:12] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: bitmex is the new woodchipper?
[2017-01-13 18:11:02] rapidtrades : its just not a good product unless ur jumping in and out all the time and hedging with other sites
[2017-01-13 18:11:56] rapidtrades : guess that's what I have to do now instead
[2017-01-13 18:14:02] aethlios : rapidtrades: only could hedge shorting finex with 0.04% daily interest, nothing cheaper. also okcoin weekly was in discount and still is.
[2017-01-13 18:14:31] aethlios : or sell spot and stay in cash but have to sent all stamp finex
[2017-01-13 18:15:56] sleger : 0kcoin usd has almost closed the gap (because) and china also, that's momentum going
[2017-01-13 18:16:19] sleger : rapidtrades: you have to realise your pnl
[2017-01-13 18:17:27] rapidtrades : it's just dumb to pay for hedging ur BTC
[2017-01-13 18:17:48] rapidtrades : it's unnatural
[2017-01-13 18:28:58] rapidtrades : sleger: what do u mean by realize ur PnL
[2017-01-13 18:29:27] sleger : rapidtrades: close/reopen your position slowly
[2017-01-13 18:29:43] rapidtrades : play the premium discount game u mean?
[2017-01-13 18:30:09] sleger : rapidtrades: sorry i was confused i thought you needed to increase your available margin and you had unrealize gains
[2017-01-13 18:30:20] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-01-13 18:31:20] rapidtrades : at least I'll get 0.09% next funding, if I don't get ADLed with all the newbebes going long on this great news from China
[2017-01-13 18:44:13] Nooby : After this week more than900
[2017-01-13 18:50:00] abbey : rapidtrades: this is bullish as f**k, i'm sorry
[2017-01-13 18:51:49] Apocalyptic : what's the news?
[2017-01-13 18:52:21] rapidtrades : China banning leverage is apparently bullish for bitcoin
[2017-01-13 18:52:23] rapidtrades : lolz
[2017-01-13 18:52:44] BTCDJS : Its not a bad thing
[2017-01-13 18:52:55] rapidtrades : it is if ur bullish
[2017-01-13 18:53:07] BTCDJS : Not necessarily
[2017-01-13 18:53:15] Rado : BitMEX_Sam: BitMEX works great with Brave browser
[2017-01-13 18:53:20] Rado : minimal use of the CPU
[2017-01-13 18:53:51] rapidtrades : bitmex can we get new addresses so the NSA doesn't track our shit
[2017-01-13 18:54:24] BTCDJS : Yeah can we all have new wallet addresses every 4 months
[2017-01-13 18:54:39] rapidtrades : or is that a problem with 'multi-cigarretes'
[2017-01-13 18:55:05] rapidtrades : this is the only exchange that forces users to use the same one
[2017-01-13 18:55:15] BTCDJS : not forces
[2017-01-13 18:55:27] rapidtrades : well i guess u can multi account
[2017-01-13 18:55:30] BTCDJS : they say to get in touch if you want it changed
[2017-01-13 18:55:38] rapidtrades : ah rly?
[2017-01-13 18:55:41] rapidtrades : cool
[2017-01-13 18:55:43] BTCDJS : yup
[2017-01-13 18:55:55] BTCDJS : support@bitmex.com
[2017-01-13 18:56:47] rapidtrades : my friend Rapid Adl was thinking about joining
[2017-01-13 18:57:54] Apocalyptic : heh
[2017-01-13 18:58:09] BTCDJS : is he the boring version of you?
[2017-01-13 18:58:37] rapidtrades : the only boring version of me is the real-life version :)
[2017-01-13 18:59:19] Apocalyptic : so rapid, when do we see the 600s ?
[2017-01-13 18:59:55] rapidtrades : this month
[2017-01-13 19:00:33] Apocalyptic : great, can't come soon enough
[2017-01-13 19:01:53] abbey : rapidtrades: do you see 500s?
[2017-01-13 19:03:09] Nooby : Before that let nos touch 900$ and after we will sell :)
[2017-01-13 19:03:33] birdie numn : deal
[2017-01-13 19:04:13] birdie numn : and make sure u max your leverages guys, chyna left yuge shoues to dill
[2017-01-13 19:04:20] birdie numn : fill
[2017-01-13 19:05:36] abbey : yeah, max lev, eezy moniz
[2017-01-13 19:06:18] Nooby : Lol not so noobie... :)
[2017-01-13 19:10:18] Sinterklaas : so guys; you can change leverage while the order is already running?
[2017-01-13 19:10:25] thedoc : yeah
[2017-01-13 19:10:43] thedoc : just click the little box next to 100x and input your new leverage or slide the slider
[2017-01-13 19:10:55] Sinterklaas : ok;
[2017-01-13 19:11:04] thedoc : all it does is add or remove btc to your position to change your liquidation price
[2017-01-13 19:11:15] Sinterklaas : but what happens with the old profit you've made with the old leverage?
[2017-01-13 19:11:41] thedoc : the # of contracts isnt changing
[2017-01-13 19:11:56] Sinterklaas : so there is not more or lesser profit
[2017-01-13 19:12:22] thedoc : right.
[2017-01-13 19:17:28] Sinterklaas : but if i manually put extra margin, the leverage doest slide, but if i change leverage the % PNL changes>
[2017-01-13 19:17:39] BTCDJS : Correct
[2017-01-13 19:17:49] Sinterklaas : sorry for being stupid but usually i understand things ...
[2017-01-13 19:17:49] BTCDJS : i never slide
[2017-01-13 19:18:00] BTCDJS : i just add more margin
[2017-01-13 19:18:02] sleger : good shoes ?
[2017-01-13 19:18:17] BTCDJS : sleger: yeah timberland
[2017-01-13 19:19:09] Sinterklaas : what leverage is "normal" 50x?