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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-01-13 08:42:41] johndoe : if they ban leverage this quickly, and are asking for detailed reports from the exchanges on all sorts of topics, it implies that this is simply a first step and there will be more regulations/interventions [2017-01-13 08:43:10] Sinterklaas : BTCDJS: 950 [2017-01-13 08:43:44] Dtrade16 : johndoe: which is good [2017-01-13 08:45:08] johndoe : i don't see reducing liquidity as a positive step. Banning margin has all sorts of ripple effects. It makes hedging harder, trading less profitable, and means smaller volume of bitcoin trading hands. [2017-01-13 08:45:19] dodic : definitely either $50k or $100 [2017-01-13 08:48:02] johndoe : i know people like to bash derivatives as increasing volatility and creating other problems, but it is primarily the opaque derivatives that have that effect - like mortgage-backed securities, etc. Other standardized derivatives like on the CME exchange probably don't increase volatility and definitely increase liquidity across the whole market which means you can catch a bid in a collapsing market. [2017-01-13 08:48:41] johndoe : of course, bitmex is a leveraged derivative platform so clearly some people depend on them. [2017-01-13 08:49:10] MikeHunt : im still unsure how to interpret this [2017-01-13 08:49:12] MikeHunt : good or bad? [2017-01-13 08:50:13] johndoe : keep in mind that the 2013 rally as a simple example was before the arrival of margin trading AFAIK. That rally was far more volatile than this latest rally/collapse. Liquidity reduces volatility and margin trading increases liquidity. [2017-01-13 08:50:53] Dtrade16 : In this case margin is being used for manipulation [2017-01-13 08:51:19] johndoe : And events like 1987 stock market crash were not caused by derivatives/futures despite a 20% fall in one day. [2017-01-13 08:52:08] johndoe : there is no way to know what is manipulation or what percentage of margin trading would be considered manipulation. [2017-01-13 08:52:57] Dtrade16 : I think this is good news [2017-01-13 08:53:06] Dtrade16 : That's what I feel but I could be very wrong [2017-01-13 08:53:40] MikeHunt : johndoe: i think fed causes it with money supply [2017-01-13 08:54:00] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: It was just a regular economic cycle [2017-01-13 08:54:07] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Exactly [2017-01-13 08:54:50] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: You gotta watch that documentary Trader [2017-01-13 08:55:07] Dtrade16 : The guy that was in that predicted the crash [2017-01-13 08:55:22] Dtrade16 : It was a pretty cool doc [2017-01-13 08:55:31] johndoe : MikeHunt: i agree. the 2008 crisis was ultimately the long-term effect of gov. interventions and manipulation via the fed and housing policies. [2017-01-13 08:55:45] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: ill check that out [2017-01-13 08:56:06] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Let me know if you have trouble finding it [2017-01-13 08:56:23] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: It gets taken down from time to time due to copyright [2017-01-13 08:57:16] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: paul tudor jones? [2017-01-13 08:57:22] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Yah [2017-01-13 08:57:30] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Savage lol [2017-01-13 08:57:51] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: dling, ill watch later [2017-01-13 08:58:05] MikeHunt : ty [2017-01-13 09:05:54] Kalman : johndoe: we are still in the crisis; we never made it out! [2017-01-13 09:08:12] MikeHunt : Kalman: embrace the temporary euphoria [2017-01-13 09:08:15] johndoe : Kalman: We're definitely in a long-term depression put into place to stave off a bigger collapse. [2017-01-13 09:09:25] Kalman : just making it worse ... [2017-01-13 09:09:36] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: cool [2017-01-13 09:09:48] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: It's online [2017-01-13 09:09:59] Dtrade16 : You don't need to dl it [2017-01-13 09:11:34] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: too late ;) [2017-01-13 09:12:16] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: lol cool [2017-01-13 09:18:04] Kalman : Cutting leverage for BTC trading while the whole economy is leveraged via fractional reserve banking!! Its funny. And the reason for this "to stabilize economic cycles". Maybe its introducing the economic cycles?! [2017-01-13 09:20:38] Kalman : I mean the reason for fractional reserve banking is to stabilize ... [2017-01-13 09:21:43] Kalman : So if our cyna friend cant leverage on ... he just goes to his local bank and ask for a business loan ... [2017-01-13 09:22:38] Kalman : Buying/selling fish/commodities/ "internet goods" [2017-01-13 09:23:18] Kalman : Or what is BTC called in china? [2017-01-13 09:26:03] johndoe : true, although i imagine a lot of the time they don't go to banks with a business idea - they go to loan sharks [2017-01-13 09:26:53] BetterNick : The three biggest global bitcoin exchanges, BTCC, OKCoin and Huobi, currently under “inspection” by the Chinese authorities, have stopped margin trading. We can further confirm that OKCoin no longer offers futures trading to Chinese citizens. Non-Chinese citizens can continue to use the international version (OKCoin.com) which appears to continue providing 3x margins and up to 20x futures. [2017-01-13 09:27:03] BetterNick : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/chinese-exchanges-stop-futures-and-margin-trading-for-chinese-citizens/ [2017-01-13 09:27:11] BetterNick : Is this true? [2017-01-13 09:28:01] johndoe : sadly, yes [2017-01-13 09:28:32] BetterNick : Old news? [2017-01-13 09:28:41] johndoe : i just hope that some of those chinese people come to bitmex and increase liquidity here. [2017-01-13 09:29:15] johndoe : news came out earlier - perhaps about 5 hours ago [2017-01-13 09:29:21] BetterNick : Yes, it's definitely an opportunity for other exchanges. [2017-01-13 09:29:37] BetterNick : Thanks @johndoe [2017-01-13 09:30:11] Dtrade16 : johndoe: Wasn't 5 hours ago [2017-01-13 09:30:15] Dtrade16 : It just broken [2017-01-13 09:30:18] Dtrade16 : broke [2017-01-13 09:31:34] Dtrade16 : Did Europe just wake up? [2017-01-13 09:31:41] johndoe : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5nofcd/breaking_pboc_strikes_again_lending_disabled_on/ - 3 hours ago regarding btcc [2017-01-13 09:32:55] Dtrade16 : Crazy [2017-01-13 09:33:10] Dtrade16 : I don't know if that reddit post means much though [2017-01-13 09:33:25] Dtrade16 : I mean I just saw it hit twitter [2017-01-13 09:33:28] Dtrade16 : Not long ago [2017-01-13 09:33:42] dodic : so either china is just holding their breath for the first person to sell or this type of news is already priced in [2017-01-13 09:33:43] johndoe : oops that reddit post was actually 5 hours ago, just refreshed page. [2017-01-13 09:34:28] Dtrade16 : johndoe: true [2017-01-13 09:34:34] johndoe : i dont know when the news broke in china but there was big move down about 6 1/2 hours ago [2017-01-13 09:34:43] dodic : ahhh [2017-01-13 09:34:47] dodic : makes sense now [2017-01-13 09:35:22] Ahhere : Is bitcoin dead guys [2017-01-13 09:35:24] Dtrade16 : johndoe: 2% not really that big of a move down though [2017-01-13 09:35:49] Dtrade16 : What were we at before? 805-810? [2017-01-13 09:35:49] dodic : Ahhere: It ded [2017-01-13 09:35:55] Ahhere : should I move to a safe haven like beanie babies [2017-01-13 09:36:08] Ahhere : long golden showers [2017-01-13 09:36:33] johndoe : ok-coin went from 790 to 745 5 hours ago, but now it has rebounded somewhat [2017-01-13 09:36:55] johndoe : bitstamp from 810 to 780ish [2017-01-13 09:37:06] tardigrade : bitcoin is a ponzi scheme [2017-01-13 09:37:17] tardigrade : you should sell now [2017-01-13 09:39:10] VenCap : Bullish on Bitcoin atm [2017-01-13 09:39:41] VenCap : Going Long John. [2017-01-13 09:40:52] johndoe : i got short at about 800, so maybe i'm talking my position, but every other chinese gov. intervention caused btc to go down recently. Some people say this will all end up being good, because btc will be more regulated and normalized in the long-term. But in the short run, i think it just increases uncertainty and has definitely decreased liquidity. So I'm gonna hold short for now. [2017-01-13 09:41:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 120 @ 783.97 [2017-01-13 09:42:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2300 @ 786.68 [2017-01-13 09:42:09] VenCap : hard to buy btc under 760 euro on Stamp [2017-01-13 09:42:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7000 @ 787.58 [2017-01-13 09:42:18] VenCap : someones been eating all the sells under 760 euro [2017-01-13 09:43:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 788.02 [2017-01-13 09:44:24] BetterNick : So far the market doesn't seem to be impressed by the news. Could be that the OKCoin futures were leading the bitcoin price. Now the Chinese can't trade there anymore. [2017-01-13 09:45:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6 @ 788.63 [2017-01-13 09:45:16] REKT : :btc: :rocket: :crescent_moon: [2017-01-13 09:46:57] johndoe : touched 61.8 retracement on btcc [2017-01-13 09:51:40] Dtrade16 : johndoe: From what level? [2017-01-13 09:52:23] johndoe : from high to low of last 12 hours [2017-01-13 09:55:48] ayy_lmao : lol @ full retrace [2017-01-13 10:25:17] dodic : its like im taking crazy pills [2017-01-13 10:25:24] birdie numn : im so confused rn. next h up or down? [2017-01-13 10:25:31] Apocalyptic : it's pumpin [2017-01-13 10:29:08] johndoe : goin down, increased my shorts at 804 on futures [2017-01-13 10:41:30] bingbongfly : nice pump btc, guess west doesn't care about china fake news [2017-01-13 10:41:49] bingbongfly : ? ? hehehe nice icons [2017-01-13 10:45:19] bingbongfly : hm borrowing fiat to long btc will be much easier than borrowing btc to short.. just a thought I had. What do you think? [2017-01-13 10:45:54] rms : credit cards work for either... [2017-01-13 10:46:55] Dtrade16 : rms: You guys long or short? [2017-01-13 10:48:22] aethlios : low daily volume, sellers just stopped the sell gun machines to cool down, will start firing soon. [2017-01-13 10:50:05] bingbongfly : rms: Hm it does? how come? [2017-01-13 10:50:27] bingbongfly : Dtrade16: I'm long, medium position with small profit close to breakeven. [2017-01-13 10:51:31] bingbongfly : I'm looking for a sell target around 890-900$ and a stop at 740$. Good risk reward ratio where I lose half if stopped and can double my capital at risk if I manage to sell at my target [2017-01-13 10:55:32] johndoe : 0.00% predicted funding in 9 hours [2017-01-13 10:55:55] johndoe : yet -0.3750% in 1 hour - never seen that before [2017-01-13 10:56:17] bingbongfly : It's pretty common john, at least I've seen it many times lately [2017-01-13 10:56:35] bingbongfly : the predicted funding rate will most likely change [2017-01-13 10:56:49] johndoe : oh ok [2017-01-13 10:57:37] j8 : there is a max change of 0.375%, so it's not a coincidence that it's exactly zero [2017-01-13 10:59:45] holybit : what is the fee for opening 1 Lot buy position of bitcoin [2017-01-13 11:09:23] BitMEX_Wally : holybit: Taker fee is 0.075% of the value of the trade [2017-01-13 11:09:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2 @ 794.48 :punch: :whale: [2017-01-13 11:11:55] birdie numn : 2 days and 8 trades later im 1,2% down from my initial investment and totally clueless [2017-01-13 11:12:08] birdie numn : what is there to take away from all of this? [2017-01-13 11:12:15] birdie numn : chyna is YUUGE? [2017-01-13 11:15:33] holybit : SO if i open a buy position of 0.1xbt. What is my fee [2017-01-13 11:18:41] PearlPitcher : Yeah holybit, I have spent 2 months on this site and still haven´t got a clue how this site works. And I am a full time forex trader. [2017-01-13 11:21:47] johndoe : top of the screen has something that says "References" [2017-01-13 11:22:08] johndoe : within that you can find many things including fees [2017-01-13 11:22:10] johndoe : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees [2017-01-13 11:24:49] birdie numn : gently caress it im going long [2017-01-13 11:27:04] Ahhere : birdie numn: welcome to the party [2017-01-13 11:27:40] itsyourboy : birdie numn: risky [2017-01-13 11:28:08] micmix : everyone, long to the max! btc forever! [2017-01-13 11:28:18] Ahhere : itsyourboy: sex is risky just wear a condom i mean stop [2017-01-13 11:29:11] nOgAnOo : Good morning pear pies [2017-01-13 11:29:21] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: alright babes [2017-01-13 11:29:23] nOgAnOo : I see I was right about my call last night [2017-01-13 11:29:34] nOgAnOo : Had my friend go long at 760 something [2017-01-13 11:29:41] nOgAnOo : since I ran out of gambling money [2017-01-13 11:29:57] nOgAnOo : Ahhere [2017-01-13 11:30:01] nOgAnOo : did you hear what happened [2017-01-13 11:30:38] johndoe : hope you tel him when to close his position as well [2017-01-13 11:32:12] nOgAnOo : yeah I told him 8 or 820 probably [2017-01-13 11:32:29] nOgAnOo : since FUD we probably won't go to high [2017-01-13 11:32:33] nOgAnOo : So guys [2017-01-13 11:32:42] micmix : $8 is a good price to close [2017-01-13 11:32:43] nOgAnOo : Last night I got 1000 dollars of kerosene heaters out of the garbage [2017-01-13 11:32:50] nOgAnOo : 3 of them [2017-01-13 11:33:01] nOgAnOo : Gonna pay off my new laptop today [2017-01-13 11:33:14] nOgAnOo : The stupid tractor supply throws away tons of new stuff [2017-01-13 11:33:20] nOgAnOo : every time I look in their garbage [2017-01-13 11:33:24] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna start blogging about it [2017-01-13 11:33:43] nOgAnOo : these 3 different heaters were obviously the floor displays [2017-01-13 11:33:48] nOgAnOo : brand new [2017-01-13 11:33:54] nOgAnOo : woth ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!!!!!! [2017-01-13 11:34:02] nOgAnOo : And I pulled them out of the trash [2017-01-13 11:34:06] nOgAnOo : I am so happy [2017-01-13 11:34:52] johndoe : $1000 meaning you sold them or retail? kinda different [2017-01-13 11:35:21] johndoe : but i'm happy for ya [2017-01-13 11:35:54] nOgAnOo : retail [2017-01-13 11:36:03] nOgAnOo : so I should get at least 3-500 [2017-01-13 11:37:03] nOgAnOo : Gotta buy some kerosene today and confirm they work [2017-01-13 11:38:31] birdie numn : nOgAnOo: dont blow up bb [2017-01-13 11:44:23] nOgAnOo : thanks bb [2017-01-13 11:46:45] nOgAnOo : I am love with you. [2017-01-13 11:46:52] nOgAnOo : Anyone wanna skype and study the bible with me? [2017-01-13 11:49:00] xfree : lose [2017-01-13 11:55:27] aethlios : nOgAnOo: better study technical analysis books, could save you money. [2017-01-13 12:04:27] nOgAnOo : ummm [2017-01-13 12:04:35] nOgAnOo : 15% on my first trade [2017-01-13 12:04:36] nOgAnOo : not too bad [2017-01-13 12:04:43] nOgAnOo : up to 0.0023 again [2017-01-13 12:07:29] rapidtrades : this funding is killing me slowly [2017-01-13 12:07:38] rapidtrades : ridiculous [2017-01-13 12:07:58] nOgAnOo : Good morning trades [2017-01-13 12:08:12] nOgAnOo : I'm just writing an article about my dumpster diving treasures [2017-01-13 12:10:52] Boontjie : nice, dumpster move preopping itself [2017-01-13 12:10:52] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: you are short here? [2017-01-13 12:11:15] johndoe : rapidtrades: stick with the futures for longer-term trades [2017-01-13 12:11:21] johndoe : is what i do [2017-01-13 12:12:25] micmix : rapidtrades: good time to switch your short to futures while there is no discount [2017-01-13 12:12:36] Yoshi1975 : nOgAnOo: You still trading? [2017-01-13 12:12:42] nOgAnOo : yeah [2017-01-13 12:12:45] nOgAnOo : just threw another 2 bucks on [2017-01-13 12:12:55] Yoshi1975 : Nice, you buy or sell [2017-01-13 12:13:05] nOgAnOo : not sure here [2017-01-13 12:13:11] nOgAnOo : My friend is long and he's sleeping [2017-01-13 12:13:13] nOgAnOo : so I want up [2017-01-13 12:13:16] Yoshi1975 : You want me to tell you [2017-01-13 12:13:21] nOgAnOo : I had him long last night at 765 [2017-01-13 12:13:30] nOgAnOo : or he may have got in at 760 [2017-01-13 12:13:31] Yoshi1975 : Yeah that was good [2017-01-13 12:13:32] nOgAnOo : I fell asleep [2017-01-13 12:13:39] nOgAnOo : What are you doing? [2017-01-13 12:13:46] nOgAnOo : I have no idea.. [2017-01-13 12:13:49] Yoshi1975 : I had long at 775 actiually and flipped at 800 [2017-01-13 12:13:56] nOgAnOo : shorting 800? [2017-01-13 12:13:58] nOgAnOo : k [2017-01-13 12:13:59] Yoshi1975 : yeah [2017-01-13 12:14:06] nOgAnOo : sad my friend is sleeping [2017-01-13 12:14:08] Yoshi1975 : has a hard time breaking [2017-01-13 12:14:12] nOgAnOo : I hope he set take profit at 820 or whatever [2017-01-13 12:14:12] Yoshi1975 : 800 [2017-01-13 12:14:24] nOgAnOo : it looks like it went high last night [2017-01-13 12:14:27] nOgAnOo : 81 maybe [2017-01-13 12:14:51] Yoshi1975 : I think if anything for the next month or so the risk is that it crashes not rallies. There is no more catalyst for it to spike [2017-01-13 12:14:56] abz : Created quick overview for current price action, interested in your feedback http://zentrade.online/bitcoinusd-price-action-analysis-bitmex-perpetual-swap-xbtusd-update-20170113/ [2017-01-13 12:15:43] nOgAnOo : You could be right again Yoshi [2017-01-13 12:15:53] nOgAnOo : if we see 500 though there will be a lot of sad people [2017-01-13 12:16:09] nOgAnOo : probably a healthy thing after all the euphoria [2017-01-13 12:16:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 100 @ 5410.9 [2017-01-13 12:16:55] nOgAnOo : I can't watch this [2017-01-13 12:16:59] nOgAnOo : my friend is losing half his profit [2017-01-13 12:17:10] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna go make a post for steemit [2017-01-13 12:17:29] birdie numn : at least he diodnt go long at 799 [2017-01-13 12:18:53] nOgAnOo : He will wake up with a nice 2x at least [2017-01-13 12:32:08] nOgAnOo : I don't think they can push it down much further, Yoshi1975 [2017-01-13 12:32:16] nOgAnOo : Coin is too cheap [2017-01-13 12:32:25] nOgAnOo : Not this fast at least [2017-01-13 12:32:31] Boontjie : nOgAnOo: you think so [2017-01-13 12:32:41] nOgAnOo : I think sidewaysish [2017-01-13 12:32:49] Boontjie : would you like me to copy and paste 2013 - 2015 for you [2017-01-13 12:32:59] nOgAnOo : I can't imagine 700 again [2017-01-13 12:33:06] nOgAnOo : there would be blood in the streets [2017-01-13 12:33:11] nOgAnOo : bull blood [2017-01-13 12:33:27] billyboy402 : is this right next funding will be 0.0000 how that even possiable , shouldnt there be a fee either way [2017-01-13 12:34:02] nOgAnOo : I remember cashing out a lot at 200 dollars about 15 months ago [2017-01-13 12:34:08] nOgAnOo : But now 800 seems normal [2017-01-13 12:34:23] nOgAnOo : We achieved it organically without Willie bot this time [2017-01-13 12:40:12] nOgAnOo : GOOD GOOD GOOD [2017-01-13 12:40:14] nOgAnOo : Go back UP!!! [2017-01-13 12:40:22] nOgAnOo : Lets moon [2017-01-13 12:40:26] nOgAnOo : FOrget about China [2017-01-13 12:40:35] nOgAnOo : Nobody cares about Chinese Police here [2017-01-13 12:40:39] nOgAnOo : we just want MOOOOOOOOOOON [2017-01-13 12:40:53] birdie numn : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛ [2017-01-13 12:41:36] nOgAnOo : MEWN [2017-01-13 12:41:50] nOgAnOo : We'll buy multicopters [2017-01-13 12:42:00] nOgAnOo : And underground cities [2017-01-13 12:42:58] nOgAnOo : The only I'm gonna do a small short here [2017-01-13 12:43:06] nOgAnOo : seems high after that dump [2017-01-13 12:43:25] nOgAnOo : though this could have just been accumulation [2017-01-13 12:43:27] nOgAnOo : for MOOOOON [2017-01-13 12:48:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 34 @ 0.013863 [2017-01-13 12:50:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 785.51 [2017-01-13 12:51:02] dodic : While we wait for MOON or gloom I posted a goulash recipe I made, if any of you are foodies: https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@anoether/hungarian-goulash-recipe [2017-01-13 12:51:12] dodic : or looks like gloom already? [2017-01-13 12:51:52] dodic : I should just stay hedged... [2017-01-13 12:53:21] nOgAnOo : yeah interesting [2017-01-13 12:53:37] nOgAnOo : I'm just scalping right now [2017-01-13 12:53:40] nOgAnOo : scalping and praying [2017-01-13 12:54:37] nOgAnOo : Pump it china [2017-01-13 13:03:24] Ahhere : Whats with the sucky funding rate [2017-01-13 13:06:57] emrahunal : chinese pump got axed, china does not have a pump anymore [2017-01-13 13:09:44] billyboy402 : Ahhere: yea never seen it 0 ,. some one should be paying , nothing in life is free [2017-01-13 13:13:45] nOgAnOo : Nice [2017-01-13 13:13:53] nOgAnOo : someone had 99 contracts pressed up against the bottom [2017-01-13 13:14:00] nOgAnOo : for me to scoop up [2017-01-13 13:14:41] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna hodl [2017-01-13 13:14:42] nOgAnOo : HODL [2017-01-13 13:15:21] nOgAnOo : Ok just made 30% [2017-01-13 13:19:07] dodic : a very merry unbirthday to you [2017-01-13 13:19:43] nOgAnOo : wat [2017-01-13 13:26:58] dodic : well its not your birthday today right? It must be your unbirthday. [2017-01-13 13:28:55] nOgAnOo : I'm shorting to 771 I think [2017-01-13 13:28:57] nOgAnOo : from here [2017-01-13 13:29:08] nOgAnOo : I believe its going to be a rough day [2017-01-13 13:29:11] nOgAnOo : in cryptoland [2017-01-13 13:29:19] nOgAnOo : just got that feeling guise [2017-01-13 13:32:42] sero : buy [2017-01-13 13:32:46] sero : ?? [2017-01-13 13:32:52] Boontjie : You just shorted right [2017-01-13 13:32:54] nOgAnOo : no [2017-01-13 13:32:55] nOgAnOo : closed [2017-01-13 13:33:07] nOgAnOo : 5% loss [2017-01-13 13:33:08] Boontjie : Like literally 5 minutes ago [2017-01-13 13:33:22] nOgAnOo : Might re-short here [2017-01-13 13:33:44] nOgAnOo : wait no that was 12% loss [2017-01-13 13:33:57] nOgAnOo : I could have closed exactly at where I bought but waited a minute too long [2017-01-13 13:39:39] nOgAnOo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC-MDYopSoA [2017-01-13 13:40:00] nOgAnOo : The Supremes - Stop In The Name Of Love (Ready Steady Go - 1965) [2017-01-13 13:40:08] nOgAnOo : *dances* [2017-01-13 13:40:35] BTCDJS : Boontjie: he doesn't have a clue. He is the living expression of insanity. "Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result" [2017-01-13 13:40:51] nOgAnOo : That's a fake-quote bro [2017-01-13 13:41:18] nOgAnOo : I would have made like 40x "doing the same thing" [2017-01-13 13:41:28] nOgAnOo : had I been a minute or 2 different [2017-01-13 13:42:09] BTCDJS : Same thing = opening a position on a whim [2017-01-13 13:42:26] BTCDJS : You're a gambler [2017-01-13 13:42:28] nOgAnOo : Oh like when I see a giant candle on okcoin and the price hasn't moved here? [2017-01-13 13:42:47] nOgAnOo : Go preach at the Casino, Pope BTCDJS [2017-01-13 13:42:50] BTCDJS : How's that working out for ya? [2017-01-13 13:42:55] nOgAnOo : We don't wanna hear it [2017-01-13 13:43:02] BTCDJS : you rolling in it? [2017-01-13 13:43:06] nOgAnOo : Oh pretty good this morning [2017-01-13 13:43:11] nOgAnOo : already up 30% after 2 trades [2017-01-13 13:43:41] sleger : so when you make back all your losses then you stop ? @nOgAnOo [2017-01-13 13:44:00] nOgAnOo : When I make back my losses I'll cut my accoun value down to 10 or 20 dollars [2017-01-13 13:44:06] nOgAnOo : and rekt all over again [2017-01-13 13:44:14] nOgAnOo : I'll rekt until I'm rich [2017-01-13 13:44:31] nOgAnOo : So that's like 400 dollars [2017-01-13 13:44:32] nOgAnOo : doable.. [2017-01-13 13:44:40] nOgAnOo : I'll have my new laptop paid off today [2017-01-13 13:44:53] nOgAnOo : With the 1000 dollars of heaters I pulled out of the trash last night [2017-01-13 13:44:59] nOgAnOo : then I'll have extra gambling money [2017-01-13 13:45:05] nOgAnOo : all in 100x [2017-01-13 13:45:30] BTCDJS : Lay off the wacky backy bro [2017-01-13 13:45:39] sleger : you found thousands of $ of heaters in a trash ? [2017-01-13 13:45:54] birdie numn : i dont the the devils lettuce is to blame here [2017-01-13 13:46:21] nOgAnOo : sleger, 1000 dollar retail value [2017-01-13 13:46:24] nOgAnOo : 3 kerosene heaters [2017-01-13 13:46:29] nOgAnOo : I believe they were the "show" models [2017-01-13 13:46:33] nOgAnOo : brand new [2017-01-13 13:46:39] sleger : nice ! [2017-01-13 13:46:43] nOgAnOo : should get at least 3-500 for them [2017-01-13 13:46:57] nOgAnOo : And 20 dollars for the steemit article [2017-01-13 13:46:57] sleger : i hope the "trash" is not the warehouse where they store them before bringing into the store [2017-01-13 13:47:04] nOgAnOo : Starting "dumpster-diving" tag [2017-01-13 13:47:09] nOgAnOo : lol.. [2017-01-13 13:47:17] nOgAnOo : yes, dad helped me to clean out a warehouse [2017-01-13 13:59:41] KyllingLolsson : I once found a used condom [2017-01-13 14:01:23] themav : Hey do ETH contracts settle/close automatically? [2017-01-13 14:02:05] birdie numn : nOgAnOo: when are you shorting this? [2017-01-13 14:02:19] nOgAnOo : now [2017-01-13 14:02:33] nOgAnOo : trying to get filled [2017-01-13 14:02:54] nOgAnOo : brb breakfast [2017-01-13 14:12:23] BitMEX_Wally : themav: 7D futures expire every 7 days on Fridays at 12:00 UTC which was 2 hours ago [2017-01-13 14:12:49] sleger : funding = 0 is correct ? [2017-01-13 14:13:21] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Yes it cannot change by more than 0.375% [2017-01-13 14:20:32] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Wally: have u given any thought to killing the swap, considering it's a terrible trading instrument [2017-01-13 14:21:19] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: How so? It is the most liquid product on the platform, but if it doesn't suit then we always have the quarterly XBTH17 for you [2017-01-13 14:22:03] rapidtrades : sleger: back me up brah [2017-01-13 14:22:28] sleger : i dont know why they would kill the swap before killing factom .... [2017-01-13 14:23:03] thailand : any consideration for options? [2017-01-13 14:23:09] rapidtrades : because it sucks liquidity from other BTC trading products [2017-01-13 14:23:35] nOgAnOo : DUDES [2017-01-13 14:23:42] nOgAnOo : THOSE HEATERS I GOT ARE ACTUALLY SELLING ON EBAY [2017-01-13 14:23:44] nOgAnOo : FOR FULL PRICE [2017-01-13 14:23:53] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna get like 7 or 800 dollars for them [2017-01-13 14:23:54] sleger : how much each ? [2017-01-13 14:23:58] sleger : link ? [2017-01-13 14:23:59] abz : To MOON or not to MOON? That's the question. https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@corvuscoraxx/fibonacci-time-zone-predicts-bitcoin-s-next-all-time-high [2017-01-13 14:24:04] nOgAnOo : I have 3 models.. from 200 -450 each [2017-01-13 14:24:12] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: how about an extra monthly contract then? 3 months is a rly long time to be short bitcoin [2017-01-13 14:24:16] BitMEX_Greg : Maybe in the futre, @thailand , but options just don't have the interest behind them yet to spend $ developing it. There are already a few options exchanges out there but they have next to nothing in terms of volume [2017-01-13 14:24:34] birdie numn : nOgAnOo: did u check if all work [2017-01-13 14:24:39] nOgAnOo : Greg, I don't have to beg anymore. I found a bunch of loot in the dumpster last night [2017-01-13 14:24:47] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: I know about deribit, what are the others? [2017-01-13 14:24:49] nOgAnOo : Birdie, the electronics all fire up.. I have to get some fuel [2017-01-13 14:24:59] nOgAnOo : they have never been used [2017-01-13 14:25:14] thailand : BitMEX_Greg: yes, I noticed that. But you'd be the biggest name in the options department if you were to offer them as a product. I understand the liquidity issue however. [2017-01-13 14:25:26] BTCDJS : themav: HEY! It's themav [2017-01-13 14:25:32] BitMEX_Greg : nOgAnOo: Glad to hear it, make sure you get a hearty breakfast haha [2017-01-13 14:25:36] nOgAnOo : Maybe I'll get a 3rd i7 laptop today [2017-01-13 14:25:46] nOgAnOo : Yeah it's cold out here in North Mexico, Greg [2017-01-13 14:25:54] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: wasn't there a singapore one, name escapes me now, lost in the ether [2017-01-13 14:26:19] BitMEX_Greg : thailand: It's something we might consider in the future [2017-01-13 14:26:32] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna go take pictures of my loot for my steemit article [2017-01-13 14:26:46] nOgAnOo : or "schemeit" as I like to call it [2017-01-13 14:27:05] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: why is the arrow green sometimes when the trade is red? look at XMR7D [2017-01-13 14:27:44] sleger : look at the price [2017-01-13 14:28:30] BitMEX_Greg : Alignment: So the arrows refer to the movement in price, but the colour refers to the direction of the trade. So price was moving up but someone sold into a bid [2017-01-13 14:28:43] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: @sleger thx [2017-01-13 14:29:19] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: could you get us longer future for alts? 7 days is too short we cant' do much with it [2017-01-13 14:30:24] rapidtrades : +1 [2017-01-13 14:30:53] rapidtrades : sleger: ^ back him up brah [2017-01-13 14:31:17] BitMEX_Greg : Alignment: Unlikely anytime soon, we have had this discussion several times before internally. [2017-01-13 14:32:50] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: ok [2017-01-13 14:33:29] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: do you provide liquidity? i see there was immediate trades after settlement or is the order book just trades trading with eacher others [2017-01-13 14:34:20] BitMEX_Greg : Alignment: No, BitMEX does not provide liquidity. We do have an agreement with an anchor market maker that does [2017-01-13 14:34:42] Alignment : BitMEX_Greg: ah ok thx [2017-01-13 14:34:52] BitMEX_Greg : There is no wash trading going on here, although we wouldn't really mind since they would just be paying us fees to do so [2017-01-13 14:40:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 5000 @ 5564.9 [2017-01-13 14:42:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 800.96 [2017-01-13 14:44:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 600 @ 814.43 [2017-01-13 14:44:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4100 @ 802.87 [2017-01-13 14:44:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 802.96 [2017-01-13 14:44:17] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion! [2017-01-13 14:44:18] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2000 @ 814.48 [2017-01-13 14:46:24] bingbongfly : This is Gentlemen. [2017-01-13 14:46:25] nOgAnOo : woooooow [2017-01-13 14:46:42] bingbongfly : poor shorters! I feel for them [2017-01-13 14:46:53] bingbongfly : Never fun to be liquidated [2017-01-13 14:46:57] nOgAnOo : nope [2017-01-13 14:47:03] nOgAnOo : Gonna be living in a box for a while [2017-01-13 14:47:26] nOgAnOo : Maybe they can get some free heaters out of the garbage like I did [2017-01-13 14:47:33] nOgAnOo : to get back on their feet [2017-01-13 14:49:04] ayy_lmao : 0% funding rate [2017-01-13 14:49:05] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-01-13 14:51:10] nOgAnOo : :) [2017-01-13 14:51:14] nOgAnOo : How are you this morning bear? [2017-01-13 14:51:23] ayy_lmao : me? [2017-01-13 14:51:26] nOgAnOo : yea [2017-01-13 14:51:27] ayy_lmao : im not bear or bull [2017-01-13 14:51:30] ayy_lmao : im a trader [2017-01-13 14:51:39] nOgAnOo : I call everyone bear [2017-01-13 14:51:41] nOgAnOo : :) [2017-01-13 14:51:44] ayy_lmao : lol [2017-01-13 14:51:53] nOgAnOo : d00d [2017-01-13 14:51:59] nOgAnOo : those heaters are selling for full price on ebay [2017-01-13 14:52:00] ayy_lmao : doing good [2017-01-13 14:52:00] nOgAnOo : every day [2017-01-13 14:52:08] nOgAnOo : i'm gonna get 7 or 9 hundro out of em [2017-01-13 14:52:14] nOgAnOo : 7 or 8* [2017-01-13 14:52:24] nOgAnOo : just gotta go get some kerosene and test em [2017-01-13 14:52:25] ayy_lmao : are they actually worth anything [2017-01-13 14:52:31] ayy_lmao : yah [2017-01-13 14:52:54] nOgAnOo : yeah man selling on ebay every day [2017-01-13 14:52:59] nOgAnOo : for 400 [2017-01-13 14:53:44] BetterNick : rapidtrades: you mean Coinut.com? [2017-01-13 14:54:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 110 @ 804.60 [2017-01-13 14:54:59] Rado : BTCE above China [2017-01-13 14:55:18] Rado : did Chinese exchanges stop some of their bots? [2017-01-13 14:55:30] nOgAnOo : lol [2017-01-13 14:55:31] BetterNick : The futures and margin trading.. [2017-01-13 14:55:42] nOgAnOo : Good morning Rado [2017-01-13 14:55:44] nOgAnOo : <3 [2017-01-13 14:55:45] BetterNick : hopefully we get a bit more stabilized market now [2017-01-13 14:55:49] Rado : morning [2017-01-13 14:57:00] nOgAnOo : I am a rich man today [2017-01-13 14:57:51] nOgAnOo : Here is one of the heaters i got [2017-01-13 14:57:56] nOgAnOo : just sold today for 450 dollars [2017-01-13 14:57:58] nOgAnOo : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-MH-215T-KFA-Kerosene-Forced-Air-Heater-with-Thermostat-215-000-BTU-/272031087391?hash=item3f5650fb1f:g:CeoAAOSw5cNYYpZW [2017-01-13 14:58:22] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: happy for you [2017-01-13 14:58:34] nOgAnOo : Me too I'm gonna buy a LOT of WEED [2017-01-13 14:58:53] nOgAnOo : and go 100x with the rest [2017-01-13 14:59:00] rapidtrades : wtf [2017-01-13 14:59:12] Ahhere : lol how much do u smoke? I like to smoke a little in evenings. [2017-01-13 14:59:25] nOgAnOo : I only smoke like an 8th in 2 weeks [2017-01-13 14:59:41] nOgAnOo : I practice conservation tho [2017-01-13 14:59:47] nOgAnOo : I eat hemp seed.. mangos.. [2017-01-13 14:59:54] nOgAnOo : and I do not let any smoke go to waste [2017-01-13 15:00:08] nOgAnOo : I know people that smoke in a day what takes me a month [2017-01-13 15:00:33] Ahhere : I'm not great at rolling my pro buddy tells me I waste half my weed. Getting a vaporiser for efficiency [2017-01-13 15:00:45] nOgAnOo : I got one [2017-01-13 15:00:48] nOgAnOo : From my dealer [2017-01-13 15:00:51] themav : BTCDJS: hey man! [2017-01-13 15:00:51] Ahhere : good? [2017-01-13 15:01:02] nOgAnOo : Haven't tried yet.. looks like it costed 190 so it better be good [2017-01-13 15:01:07] nOgAnOo : it's called the "dark knight" [2017-01-13 15:01:22] Ahhere : cool he was charging me €200 so I wasn't sure if I was getting ripped off [2017-01-13 15:01:25] nOgAnOo : hmm I'll try it now [2017-01-13 15:01:28] nOgAnOo : actually [2017-01-13 15:01:30] nOgAnOo : that sounds fun [2017-01-13 15:01:32] Ahhere : haha [2017-01-13 15:01:47] krtek.net : fomo :D [2017-01-13 15:02:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 800 @ 806.42 [2017-01-13 15:02:27] abbey : Ahhere: get volcano, that's legendary quality vapor. [2017-01-13 15:02:48] abbey : i've had one for years [2017-01-13 15:03:15] abbey : moon? [2017-01-13 15:03:33] abbey : weeee [2017-01-13 15:03:51] Rado : H17 $10 premium [2017-01-13 15:04:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 807.81 [2017-01-13 15:04:12] abbey : 5,6k critical [2017-01-13 15:04:41] Ahhere : abbey: I'll check that out. Is it true they don't smell? [2017-01-13 15:05:37] nOgAnOo : Vape smoke barely smells [2017-01-13 15:05:39] abbey : only slight odor, doesn't make room or clothes stink [2017-01-13 15:05:53] nOgAnOo : Ok I think it's charging now [2017-01-13 15:06:03] nOgAnOo : I'll make a video review of it [2017-01-13 15:06:06] nOgAnOo : :) [2017-01-13 15:06:26] Ahhere : Shorts need to vape soon [2017-01-13 15:06:39] abbey : :D [2017-01-13 15:06:51] nOgAnOo : lol [2017-01-13 15:07:51] Rado : I see another $40-50 advance on XBTH17 [2017-01-13 15:08:19] ayy_lmao : bitcoin looking good [2017-01-13 15:10:25] abbey : trade carefully now guys [2017-01-13 15:10:41] ayy_lmao : ^ [2017-01-13 15:11:10] VenCap : break 5550 on huobi rocket ship btc [2017-01-13 15:12:15] Izakun : It's possible to play a song if the btc was under x$ ? [2017-01-13 15:12:20] rapidtrades : oh look another dump into me rally [2017-01-13 15:18:49] sleger : so no more leverage in china ? [2017-01-13 15:19:25] sleger : didnt have a big market impact [2017-01-13 15:19:43] rapidtrades : lol [2017-01-13 15:20:20] abbey : sleger: that's the word and no big impact [2017-01-13 15:20:34] sleger : its not bad news per se anyways [2017-01-13 15:20:47] abbey : sleger: i think so too [2017-01-13 15:21:50] Rado : it's really good for BTC if they remove the no commission trading and fake volume [2017-01-13 15:22:08] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XBTH17/NvfJSpuv-Break-of-the-falling-wedge-to-bring-940s/ [2017-01-13 15:22:11] abbey : Rado: yep [2017-01-13 15:22:16] Rado : $940 target on XBTH17 [2017-01-13 15:23:07] sleger : 930 is where bitmex deleveraged my short swap [2017-01-13 15:25:22] ayy_lmao : rip [2017-01-13 15:27:22] Rado : Entry price: 779.87 [2017-01-13 15:27:27] Rado : I always sell early though [2017-01-13 15:27:28] nOgAnOo : Vape works awesome!!!!! [2017-01-13 15:27:40] Rado : itchy fingers [2017-01-13 15:28:03] Rado : I should be buying instead :-) [2017-01-13 15:28:12] thailand : wait for your $940 Rado [2017-01-13 15:28:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 813.91 [2017-01-13 15:28:33] Rado : thailand: I wish I can [2017-01-13 15:28:49] nOgAnOo : I love you all this morning [2017-01-13 15:29:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 100 @ 5707.2 [2017-01-13 15:29:40] VenCap : bitcoin clear path to the moon [2017-01-13 15:29:48] VenCap : china news positive vibes [2017-01-13 15:30:04] rapidtrades : perma-bull dreams never die [2017-01-13 15:31:39] Rado : funding rate is 0% [2017-01-13 15:31:43] Rado : first time I see this [2017-01-13 15:33:47] jonny : bitcoin found peace [2017-01-13 15:34:08] jonny : chinese central bank did it [2017-01-13 15:35:00] nOgAnOo : I need some kerosene [2017-01-13 15:36:00] sleger : nOgAnOo: use your zippo fuel [2017-01-13 15:37:44] nOgAnOo : I need many gallons [2017-01-13 15:38:18] sleger : check the othe r dumpsters ? [2017-01-13 15:38:51] nOgAnOo : True [2017-01-13 15:38:52] nOgAnOo : Good idea