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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-01-13 03:52:03] nOgAnOo : they did...
[2017-01-13 03:52:07] nOgAnOo : they are doing it..
[2017-01-13 03:52:15] nOgAnOo : go back home china
[2017-01-13 03:52:17] nOgAnOo : where you belong
[2017-01-13 03:53:04] nOgAnOo : don't hurt me china
[2017-01-13 03:53:28] nOgAnOo : You are my only hope
[2017-01-13 03:53:29] BitMEX_Sam : CHOYNA
[2017-01-13 03:53:39] nOgAnOo : Root with me Sam
[2017-01-13 03:54:28] BitMEX_Sam : :rocket:
[2017-01-13 03:54:33] nOgAnOo : MEWN
[2017-01-13 03:54:39] micmix : "Bitcoin - crushing your dreams since 2013" ™ @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-01-13 03:54:45] anonymous123421 : BitMEX_Sam: haha I love you guys
[2017-01-13 03:55:05] nOgAnOo : Man I could have closed out at the same price I went in at
[2017-01-13 03:55:09] nOgAnOo : I seen little red candle
[2017-01-13 03:55:12] BitMEX_Sam : :hospital: :steam_locomotive:
[2017-01-13 03:55:14] nOgAnOo : this is what always gets me
[2017-01-13 03:55:19] nOgAnOo : "do I want to pay the trade fee"
[2017-01-13 03:55:23] nOgAnOo : "or lose everything"
[2017-01-13 03:55:35] nOgAnOo : =/
[2017-01-13 03:56:00] nOgAnOo : entry is 785.55 long
[2017-01-13 03:56:06] rapidtrades : wtf longs getting paid AGAIN?
[2017-01-13 03:56:25] BitMEX_Sam : Must be a conspiracy rapid
[2017-01-13 03:56:29] micmix : rapidtrades: next one is -0.375%
[2017-01-13 03:56:32] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2017-01-13 03:56:34] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: must be nice to pay the funding all day long
[2017-01-13 03:56:43] nOgAnOo : BIG DUMP
[2017-01-13 03:56:46] Apocalyptic : rapid mad bro
[2017-01-13 03:56:46] nOgAnOo : here is where I rekt
[2017-01-13 03:56:54] ayy_lmao : yah making money isnt nice huh
[2017-01-13 03:56:56] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-13 03:57:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 60 @ 5316.1
[2017-01-13 03:57:05] nOgAnOo : Bye everyone
[2017-01-13 03:57:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 779.82 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-13 03:57:08] nOgAnOo : nice knowing you
[2017-01-13 03:57:09] ayy_lmao : when we are trending this hard that funding doesnt matter
[2017-01-13 03:57:12] rapidtrades : wow it really is 0.375
[2017-01-13 03:57:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 133 @ 778.95
[2017-01-13 03:57:38] nOgAnOo : That was me
[2017-01-13 03:57:39] nOgAnOo : lol
[2017-01-13 03:57:52] MikeHunt : u dont learn do you?
[2017-01-13 03:57:59] nOgAnOo : That was a little Christmas bonus for you Sam
[2017-01-13 03:58:00] nOgAnOo : <3
[2017-01-13 03:58:03] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-13 03:58:18] nOgAnOo : Premium Freak said he was long
[2017-01-13 03:58:18] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: btw, thank you very much for fixing the scroll
[2017-01-13 03:58:21] nOgAnOo : and he's a millionaire
[2017-01-13 03:58:26] nOgAnOo : so I figured it was a safe bet
[2017-01-13 03:58:29] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Which scroll?
[2017-01-13 03:58:30] nOgAnOo : RIP premium freak
[2017-01-13 03:58:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5900 @ 777.30
[2017-01-13 03:58:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 430 @ 777.07
[2017-01-13 03:58:47] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: headers in instrument table
[2017-01-13 03:58:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 776.45
[2017-01-13 03:58:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 577 @ 776.38
[2017-01-13 03:58:57] nOgAnOo : I am so tired
[2017-01-13 03:59:00] BitMEX_Sam : Oh, yeah - sorry that broke at all
[2017-01-13 03:59:09] nOgAnOo : Good night, little bears
[2017-01-13 03:59:13] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: :shipit:
[2017-01-13 03:59:21] BitMEX_Sam : That's a *really* old piece of code from 2014 and I've been doing some cleanup
[2017-01-13 03:59:26] anonymous123421 : nOgAnOo: Night friend
[2017-01-13 03:59:31] BitMEX_Sam : That was some original BMEX vintage
[2017-01-13 03:59:41] micmix : nice
[2017-01-13 03:59:42] nOgAnOo : Sam, Can I have a Bitmex T-shirt
[2017-01-13 03:59:47] nOgAnOo : for losing 500 dollars
[2017-01-13 03:59:48] BitMEX_Sam : I wish, I don't even have one.
[2017-01-13 04:00:33] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Crazily, that code (still) detects FIrefox and shimmies the header offset by a hundredth of a pixel every time you scroll so it doesn't sail all the way to the left
[2017-01-13 04:00:47] BitMEX_Sam : The code has a comment going `// WTF WTF WTF`
[2017-01-13 04:01:11] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-13 04:01:15] olimano1 : if my unrealized p/l is positive, does that mean its already canceled my realized pnl, or is it seperate?
[2017-01-13 04:01:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 771.31
[2017-01-13 04:01:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 527 @ 771.59
[2017-01-13 04:01:25] BitMEX_Sam : olimano1: It's separate
[2017-01-13 04:01:32] olimano1 : okay
[2017-01-13 04:01:51] olimano1 : is there a way to make the mark price real time on your position viewer?
[2017-01-13 04:02:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 750 @ 5290.3
[2017-01-13 04:02:09] BitMEX_Sam : It is real-time, are you seeing delay?
[2017-01-13 04:02:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 769.95
[2017-01-13 04:02:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 126 @ 769.90
[2017-01-13 04:02:38] BitMEX_Sam : You should see the same Mark in the positions list as you see in Instruments, Contract Details, and the book
[2017-01-13 04:02:51] ayy_lmao : rip 5500 longers
[2017-01-13 04:02:56] ayy_lmao : we tried to warn you
[2017-01-13 04:03:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 9000 @ 766.31
[2017-01-13 04:03:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10200 @ 766.64
[2017-01-13 04:03:12] olimano1 : the mark price is different than the current lowest/highest bid/ask
[2017-01-13 04:03:49] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, that's intentional
[2017-01-13 04:03:51] nOgAnOo : wow
[2017-01-13 04:03:54] nOgAnOo : this is crazy
[2017-01-13 04:03:59] nOgAnOo : almost back to 750
[2017-01-13 04:04:00] BitMEX_Sam : olimano1: Mark is based off of the index, not off of direct trading here
[2017-01-13 04:04:06] olimano1 : but is there a way to disable it? id rather it not show that way
[2017-01-13 04:04:09] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: Hey same, does PBoC inspections affect bitmex operations?
[2017-01-13 04:04:26] BitMEX_Sam : It's used for margining purposes, to determine whether or not to liquidate users, so that a user here on BitMEX couldn't ratchet the price up & down & cause liquidations
[2017-01-13 04:04:27] l3f : Will any inspections affect bitmex's hong kong head quarters?
[2017-01-13 04:04:37] BitMEX_Sam : l3f: No
[2017-01-13 04:05:00] anonymous123421 : BitMEX_Sam: Just curious, are you located in HK?
[2017-01-13 04:05:04] BitMEX_Sam : I'm not, no.
[2017-01-13 04:05:26] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: Is it possible they may inspect bitmex?
[2017-01-13 04:06:16] BitMEX_Sam : l3f: No, we are not incorporated in or affiliated with HK
[2017-01-13 04:06:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 35000 @ 5231.1
[2017-01-13 04:06:20] olimano1 : Is there a way to see what my p/l would be if i closed the position right now without manually inputing to the calculator?
[2017-01-13 04:06:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 58439 @ 765.99 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-13 04:06:24] nOgAnOo : Do you know where I am Sam?
[2017-01-13 04:06:39] BitMEX_Sam : olimano1: No, we can't tell you that with certainty because the book may move between now & when your order makes it to our servers
[2017-01-13 04:07:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 20000 @ 761.02
[2017-01-13 04:07:04] BitMEX_Sam : nOgAnOo: Somewhere up in the sky, I would assume
[2017-01-13 04:07:11] ayy_lmao : cant wait for the deleverage
[2017-01-13 04:07:22] nOgAnOo : YOu wouldn't believe the weed I got, Sam
[2017-01-13 04:07:28] nOgAnOo : ALMOST TO 750 GUYS
[2017-01-13 04:07:33] BitMEX_Sam : Make sure it's not oregano
[2017-01-13 04:07:36] nOgAnOo : GO BITCOIN!!!!!!!!
[2017-01-13 04:07:38] nOgAnOo : MOVE MOVE MOVE
[2017-01-13 04:07:47] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: How do you feel about all this dumping?
[2017-01-13 04:07:53] BitMEX_Sam : l3f: Strangely calm
[2017-01-13 04:08:19] l3f : I've shorted -x1 but the funding will eat my cash stack
[2017-01-13 04:08:21] l3f : is there a better way?
[2017-01-13 04:08:28] BitMEX_Sam : Futures, generally
[2017-01-13 04:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15000 @ 756.89
[2017-01-13 04:08:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 32000 @ 756.95
[2017-01-13 04:08:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 763.62
[2017-01-13 04:08:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 763.66
[2017-01-13 04:08:37] nOgAnOo : OMG
[2017-01-13 04:08:43] nOgAnOo : IT NEVER ENDS
[2017-01-13 04:08:47] nOgAnOo : I need to load up more money!!
[2017-01-13 04:08:50] BitMEX_Sam : The basis has been shifting massively, there have been a few great opportunities to get in with prem/discount depending on your side
[2017-01-13 04:08:53] dodic : my hedge to the rescue
[2017-01-13 04:08:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 762.55
[2017-01-13 04:08:56] nOgAnOo : I want in on this rekkage
[2017-01-13 04:08:57] rapidtrades : yes feel free to short futures at 13 discount
[2017-01-13 04:09:07] nOgAnOo : Let me rekt too
[2017-01-13 04:09:17] l3f : lmao
[2017-01-13 04:09:21] BitMEX_Sam : Well, yeah. Perhaps "right now" isn't the time. But I just hold the door, you have to walk through it
[2017-01-13 04:09:59] olimano1 : why cant i do a trailling stop sell?
[2017-01-13 04:10:17] thedoc : yesss quick buy up all the cheap coins so we can get rekt again on quarterly
[2017-01-13 04:10:32] thedoc : price bounces $14 only for it to go back down. good going everyone
[2017-01-13 04:10:40] BitMEX_Sam : olimano1: Trailing stops are used as Stops, you can use Take Profit orders or limits to exit
[2017-01-13 04:11:25] BitMEX_Sam : We gray out the other button because if placed as specified, it would execute immediately.
[2017-01-13 04:11:27] olimano1 : is there no trailling stop equivalent for shorts?
[2017-01-13 04:11:40] l3f : olimano1: it's the trailing stop
[2017-01-13 04:11:42] BitMEX_Sam : There is, but your trail has to be positive
[2017-01-13 04:12:07] olimano1 : oh thanks, I get it now
[2017-01-13 04:12:09] l3f : Thanks PBoC
[2017-01-13 04:12:15] l3f : manipulates CNY and BTC
[2017-01-13 04:12:17] l3f : master of the universe
[2017-01-13 04:12:32] rapidtrades : tnx4cheap coinz? or no?
[2017-01-13 04:13:23] l3f : rapidtrades: too much cheap coins
[2017-01-13 04:13:34] l3f : really devaulates my net worth
[2017-01-13 04:14:07] rapidtrades : well then hedge and want it devlued by 0.375% every 8 hrs
[2017-01-13 04:14:17] rapidtrades : wait*
[2017-01-13 04:14:23] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-13 04:14:30] rapidtrades : no watch*
[2017-01-13 04:14:34] rapidtrades : i meant watch
[2017-01-13 04:14:52] rapidtrades : i need to get some sleep
[2017-01-13 04:15:17] l3f : rapidtrades: I'm already being deevualted by 0.375%
[2017-01-13 04:15:27] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: is there no way to improve the indicator? from 5 to 10 lights or as % 1-100?
[2017-01-13 04:15:30] l3f : I need to add more short so my profit will save us
[2017-01-13 04:15:45] rapidtrades : I've spend hours past few days at 5 lights, watching this
[2017-01-13 04:15:56] l3f : rapidtrades: who hasn't?
[2017-01-13 04:16:03] l3f : a great shitstorm a brewing
[2017-01-13 04:16:07] rapidtrades : but i don't wanna
[2017-01-13 04:17:06] rapidtrades : could be make the indy more sensitive so ppl are not on watch for hours on end
[2017-01-13 04:18:11] nOgAnOo : When is funding?
[2017-01-13 04:18:13] nOgAnOo : My clock is broken
[2017-01-13 04:18:27] billyboy402 : 7.41 mate
[2017-01-13 04:18:37] billyboy402 : 7 hours 41 min time
[2017-01-13 04:19:43] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: lol trust the broken clock
[2017-01-13 04:22:24] MikeHunt : maybe that's why his trading is off
[2017-01-13 04:24:51] nOgAnOo : Hmm I can't find any money right now
[2017-01-13 04:25:04] nOgAnOo : Shouldn't have thrown 30 dollars promoting that whore's post on steemit
[2017-01-13 04:25:19] nOgAnOo : And giving her "gas" (cigarette) money
[2017-01-13 04:25:28] nOgAnOo : loser whore
[2017-01-13 04:28:33] Dtrade16 : l3f: @rapidtrades Are you guys using any stops?
[2017-01-13 04:30:54] l3f : Dtrade16: I'm not in a trade
[2017-01-13 04:30:59] l3f : well I am but hedged
[2017-01-13 04:31:11] l3f : but I usually add a stop when I'm in profit
[2017-01-13 04:31:24] l3f : or I eyeball it and manually stop it when I'm losing too much
[2017-01-13 04:32:19] Dtrade16 : l3f: Nice
[2017-01-13 04:35:02] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: going to take the other side this time
[2017-01-13 04:35:17] Dtrade16 : You shorting?
[2017-01-13 04:35:21] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: ?
[2017-01-13 04:35:26] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yups
[2017-01-13 04:35:37] Dtrade16 : Uh oh lol
[2017-01-13 04:35:47] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: just a small one short term
[2017-01-13 04:35:56] Dtrade16 : What do think we will get down to?
[2017-01-13 04:36:03] Dtrade16 : I've got a stop at 720s
[2017-01-13 04:36:08] Dtrade16 : It's pretty deep
[2017-01-13 04:36:23] Dtrade16 : I sold around 805 and got back in at 800
[2017-01-13 04:36:54] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Don't hit my stop lol
[2017-01-13 04:37:17] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: not sure im not hoping for a big drop but i dont see a rally tonight
[2017-01-13 04:37:46] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: im going to set limit buys at 750-740
[2017-01-13 04:38:15] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: True, do you think that 300k order was a buy or sell?
[2017-01-13 04:38:19] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-13 04:38:30] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: I think it was on okcoin
[2017-01-13 04:38:47] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: im not sure or really even worried about it.. I think its just for show
[2017-01-13 04:39:15] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-13 04:39:30] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Gotta go pick up the gf
[2017-01-13 04:39:41] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Hopefully I don't rekt hard
[2017-01-13 04:39:50] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Later bro
[2017-01-13 04:44:02] jedisatoshi : later homie
[2017-01-13 04:45:37] nOgAnOo : I can't believe
[2017-01-13 04:45:44] nOgAnOo : I pulled 1000 dollars out of the dumpster tonight
[2017-01-13 04:45:55] nOgAnOo : Gonna pay off my new laptop tomorrow
[2017-01-13 04:46:09] nOgAnOo : and go 200x on the yen
[2017-01-13 04:46:12] nOgAnOo : and 100x on bitcoin
[2017-01-13 04:46:14] nOgAnOo : both ways
[2017-01-13 04:49:58] l3f : nOgAnOo: Just go to your local casino
[2017-01-13 04:50:08] l3f : If you lose enough you can get free drinks and stuff
[2017-01-13 04:50:14] l3f : you don't get such hospitality here
[2017-01-13 04:50:16] nOgAnOo : I'm waiting for the next "free play"
[2017-01-13 04:50:28] nOgAnOo : I won 80 bucks on new years
[2017-01-13 04:50:32] nOgAnOo : with the 40 in free play
[2017-01-13 04:50:38] nOgAnOo : "5 dollar alley"
[2017-01-13 04:50:42] nOgAnOo : 5 dollar slots
[2017-01-13 04:50:45] nOgAnOo : my favorite
[2017-01-13 04:51:10] nOgAnOo : who's gonna fund my next round of scalping
[2017-01-13 04:51:16] nOgAnOo : until I get my garbage money tomorrow
[2017-01-13 04:51:21] nOgAnOo : I wanna long this 100x
[2017-01-13 04:52:40] l3f : nOgAnOo: Just give me your money and I'll long it at 100x and give you back your profit
[2017-01-13 04:58:00] KingTuna : Dtrade16: $350 by April before it evens out to $500 for a while and back up
[2017-01-13 04:58:18] rms : i'm not getting back in until the us and china price are at parity
[2017-01-13 04:58:27] rms : btc cheaper in china is the worst bear sign
[2017-01-13 04:59:01] XXXX : nOgAnOo: you should leave gambling and focus on your studies bud.finish uni with good grades. Get a decent job and come back here in few years.
[2017-01-13 04:59:31] nOgAnOo : No thanks, i want quick cash, fast cars and faster women
[2017-01-13 05:04:38] micmix : rapidtrades: good time to switch your short from swap to futures to avoid paying funding
[2017-01-13 05:06:49] MikeHunt : micmix: you think its going up?
[2017-01-13 05:07:01] nOgAnOo : of course it's going up
[2017-01-13 05:07:23] nOgAnOo : we were just nearly double this price
[2017-01-13 05:07:24] MikeHunt : looks like its being sold into
[2017-01-13 05:07:27] micmix : no, I think swap will stay with discount for a while so shorts will pay fees
[2017-01-13 05:07:50] micmix : so shorting futures is cheaper
[2017-01-13 05:07:57] micmix : *will be cheaper
[2017-01-13 05:08:15] MikeHunt : micmix: if premium on march is higher, do you make a profit as a short if market goes down?
[2017-01-13 05:08:22] MikeHunt : or just cheaper on fees?
[2017-01-13 05:09:12] micmix : cheaper on fees and better long-term in bear market
[2017-01-13 05:09:38] MikeHunt : micmix: if you were in swap now would it be worth the fees to transfer over now or later?
[2017-01-13 05:11:20] micmix : if you think we're entering long-term bear market it's worth it
[2017-01-13 05:11:32] micmix : if you wait more futures will have negative premium
[2017-01-13 05:11:46] micmix : well they already do
[2017-01-13 05:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 400 @ 768.07
[2017-01-13 05:11:54] nOgAnOo : UGH
[2017-01-13 05:11:59] nOgAnOo : I WISH I HAD 2 DOLLARS RIGHT NOW
[2017-01-13 05:20:34] MikeHunt : micmix: thnx btw
[2017-01-13 05:31:21] l3f : micmix: or I can withdraw to bitstamp
[2017-01-13 05:31:28] l3f : who will hold my god damn non-deprecating cash
[2017-01-13 05:31:38] MikeHunt : l3f: why not make synthetic deposit here?
[2017-01-13 05:31:52] l3f : MikeHunt: so I can pay 0.375% interest to rekt longs
[2017-01-13 05:32:00] MikeHunt : l3f: march31?
[2017-01-13 05:32:13] l3f : we're well past that point
[2017-01-13 05:32:18] l3f : I'm hedged at 795
[2017-01-13 05:32:37] l3f : and -10 dollars already
[2017-01-13 05:32:38] l3f : rofl
[2017-01-13 05:32:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7 @ 767.99
[2017-01-13 05:32:42] l3f : H17
[2017-01-13 05:32:44] l3f : that is
[2017-01-13 05:36:04] MikeHunt : l3f: shorting 795 and -10$ ?
[2017-01-13 05:36:37] MikeHunt : if ur shorting a lot it takes a while to over come the fees
[2017-01-13 05:37:13] l3f : hmm might be able to just arb the difference actually
[2017-01-13 05:37:15] l3f : but unwinding it may be a pain
[2017-01-13 05:37:41] micmix : not worth it with current liquidity imho
[2017-01-13 05:37:54] MikeHunt : its been really stressful this bear market
[2017-01-13 05:37:59] MikeHunt : most PnD's are quick n easy
[2017-01-13 05:38:16] MikeHunt : potentially looking at a 1.5yr bull market being destroyed by ChEna
[2017-01-13 05:38:48] l3f : What happened to the good old days when it used to pump 1% a day
[2017-01-13 05:38:50] l3f : now it's dump 10% a day
[2017-01-13 05:38:59] j8 : they gave us the bull market in the first place, so they're allowed
[2017-01-13 05:39:11] l3f : micmix: it's illiquid as fuck right now
[2017-01-13 05:39:17] l3f : even the swap
[2017-01-13 05:39:20] l3f : gaping sometimes
[2017-01-13 05:40:07] micmix : all hail China and their communist party ;-)
[2017-01-13 05:40:19] zanza : hail HYDRA
[2017-01-13 05:40:27] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-01-13 05:40:38] l3f : All hail PBoC
[2017-01-13 05:40:48] l3f : based PBoC making btc backflip off a diving board
[2017-01-13 05:41:10] MikeHunt : cnbc said pboc crashed it twice, once at ~8k and again at ~6.5k
[2017-01-13 05:41:14] MikeHunt : 1st they warned about currency
[2017-01-13 05:41:20] MikeHunt : 2nd investigations into exchanges
[2017-01-13 05:41:49] MikeHunt : a 3rd could be the nail in the bulls coffin, okc going to jail
[2017-01-13 05:42:00] MikeHunt : although that might be worth it if it stops the manipulation
[2017-01-13 05:50:36] Dtrade16 : I thought we were all long? What happen?
[2017-01-13 05:54:22] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: chEna doesnt agree apparently
[2017-01-13 05:57:52] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Sucks
[2017-01-13 05:58:01] billyboy402 : has bitmex ever had social losses
[2017-01-13 05:58:50] j8 : yeah lots, but it's auto-deleveraging now instead of socialized losses
[2017-01-13 05:59:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 600 @ 775.60
[2017-01-13 06:00:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 773.07
[2017-01-13 06:00:26] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-01-13 06:00:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 7 @ 773.04
[2017-01-13 06:00:27] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 25000 @ 773.53
[2017-01-13 06:06:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2500 @ 776.62
[2017-01-13 06:09:06] MikeHunt : for a downpour of red this is holding up pretty well so far
[2017-01-13 06:10:38] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: If you guys remember we wer trending upward until this last bit of news
[2017-01-13 06:11:37] Dtrade16 : I say we hit 900 after this is worked out
[2017-01-13 06:12:57] Dtrade16 : 7 is my lucky number and that's how many coins I'm trading with :P
[2017-01-13 06:14:43] Dtrade16 : Who can program me a bot with my own strategy?
[2017-01-13 06:14:56] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: thats how many coins i was trading with up until a few days ago xD
[2017-01-13 06:15:07] Dtrade16 : Lol
[2017-01-13 06:15:18] Dtrade16 : I love the number 7
[2017-01-13 06:15:22] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: im looking coding bots
[2017-01-13 06:15:40] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: You're learning you mean?
[2017-01-13 06:15:51] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Or you're looking for someone to code?
[2017-01-13 06:16:06] Dtrade16 : I have a few strategies I want to test
[2017-01-13 06:16:07] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: i can code already, i just havent done bitcoin bots in particular
[2017-01-13 06:16:25] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: I can code somewhat too but only html and css
[2017-01-13 06:16:40] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: i recommend learning C
[2017-01-13 06:16:40] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: I don't know the language that they program bots in
[2017-01-13 06:16:46] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: C?
[2017-01-13 06:17:04] MikeHunt : yeh its not really bitcoin specific but i found it a gateway to pretty much every other language
[2017-01-13 06:17:16] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Sweet
[2017-01-13 06:17:37] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Once you have the basics down, it's easier to learn the others
[2017-01-13 06:17:46] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: if thats too much u can always do visual basic first
[2017-01-13 06:17:49] Dtrade16 : I know a bit of java script too
[2017-01-13 06:18:01] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: that'll probably help
[2017-01-13 06:19:18] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: The programming isn't anything compared to the strategy though
[2017-01-13 06:19:38] Dtrade16 : She wants up not down
[2017-01-13 06:20:20] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: true
[2017-01-13 06:20:38] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: i think first ill make one that uses bitmex test site and keep it there until its profitable
[2017-01-13 06:20:57] Dtrade16 : Where's the test site?
[2017-01-13 06:21:28] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Do people do away with just one bot or do you need multiple?
[2017-01-13 06:22:50] MikeHunt : not sure might need to google it
[2017-01-13 06:22:58] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: not sure
[2017-01-13 06:23:14] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: perhaps having some for different time periods/strategies might be helpfulk
[2017-01-13 06:23:29] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: like in bear/bull/sideways markets
[2017-01-13 06:23:53] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: True
[2017-01-13 06:24:30] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: I wonder how these mm bots do, like for arbitrage
[2017-01-13 06:24:46] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Or spreads
[2017-01-13 06:28:06] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: i suppose arb would work if u could get timing right
[2017-01-13 06:28:28] MikeHunt : only issue with spreads if choppyness will probably rape your bot
[2017-01-13 06:30:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 4000 @ 775.85
[2017-01-13 06:30:40] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: True
[2017-01-13 06:32:06] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: If someone really did long 300k then I think we're going up
[2017-01-13 06:35:01] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: i heard it was a short
[2017-01-13 06:37:43] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: It was bought on the way down though?
[2017-01-13 06:37:58] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: What was the reasoning for that?
[2017-01-13 06:41:38] MikeHunt : problem in china is getting hold of a lot of money is real easy
[2017-01-13 06:41:41] MikeHunt : due to corruption
[2017-01-13 06:41:50] MikeHunt : it could mean a dumb bet by a rich noob
[2017-01-13 06:41:59] MikeHunt : or well placed bet by insider
[2017-01-13 06:46:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 490 @ 0.012170
[2017-01-13 06:51:06] aethlios : this is going 560.
[2017-01-13 06:51:21] jonny : so...
[2017-01-13 06:51:35] Dtrade16 : aethlios: ??
[2017-01-13 06:51:44] Dtrade16 : aethlios: Why do you think?
[2017-01-13 06:52:12] jonny : if , hypothetically, okcoin and btcc will be closed, then will bitmex also be closed - or will bitmex price will be the same as US/EU exchanges?
[2017-01-13 06:52:52] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QqTZbA1y/ the trendline from 200 at risk, 18 months bull trend at risk, below the trendline will be bloodboth
[2017-01-13 06:53:48] l3f : aethlios: Depends on how generous our PBoC overlords are
[2017-01-13 06:54:07] l3f : maybe they'll only imprison the staff of Okcasino and leave it at that
[2017-01-13 06:57:14] aethlios : at the end this will be very good for btc, we again go down with irrelevant reasons for btc as technology (network stability etc.) So transparency will be long term good thing.
[2017-01-13 06:59:51] jonny : aethlios: isnt a btc bulltrend only intact if it is exponential anyway?
[2017-01-13 07:01:35] aethlios : my chart shows the trend channel from 200 is in danger, if breaks will be very bad.
[2017-01-13 07:01:53] Dtrade16 : aethlios: It has to first break the 650s doesn't it?
[2017-01-13 07:02:27] aethlios : 690 for march contract
[2017-01-13 07:02:31] Dtrade16 : How come I'm seeing a different chart?
[2017-01-13 07:02:45] Dtrade16 : aethlios: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/w68lQQLs/
[2017-01-13 07:02:54] Dtrade16 : Have I drawn this correctly?
[2017-01-13 07:04:12] johndoe : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5nofcd/breaking_pboc_strikes_again_lending_disabled_on/
[2017-01-13 07:05:13] johndoe : is this why btc fell a few hours ago?
[2017-01-13 07:05:17] aethlios : Dtrade16: https://www.tradingview.com/x/7sGH35dl/ there are 2 channels, i use log scale, you don't but better use log scale.
[2017-01-13 07:08:54] Dtrade16 : johndoe: No more shorting?
[2017-01-13 07:09:45] johndoe : not sure. perhaps just no more margin shorting. But so far this only affects BTCC, not ok-coin AFAIK
[2017-01-13 07:10:44] Dtrade16 : aethlios: How do I do that?
[2017-01-13 07:11:13] aethlios : Dtrade16: chart properties, scales
[2017-01-13 07:11:22] MikeHunt : pboc crashed it twice
[2017-01-13 07:11:26] MikeHunt : 1st with warning at peak
[2017-01-13 07:11:32] Dtrade16 : johndoe: Well hopefully that will take care of the high volatility
[2017-01-13 07:11:35] MikeHunt : 2nd around 6500 which caused second dip
[2017-01-13 07:11:59] MikeHunt : unless pboc strikes again, we should be ok
[2017-01-13 07:12:08] johndoe : i dont know about that. By reducing margin, you reduce liquidity which creates volatility
[2017-01-13 07:12:18] Gekko : Next one will be when btc exchange ceos arrested
[2017-01-13 07:12:45] MikeHunt : Gekko: china has an incentive not to totally kill bitcoin
[2017-01-13 07:13:10] Dtrade16 : aethlios: What is the difference now?
[2017-01-13 07:13:17] MikeHunt : but manipulation has been going on imo at OKC
[2017-01-13 07:13:41] Gekko : honestly, btc mining profits are nothing in the scheme of the Chinese economy
[2017-01-13 07:14:02] Gekko : control, and control of rmb is paramount
[2017-01-13 07:14:13] aethlios : Dtrade16: log shows percentage difference, google it why log scale in charts.
[2017-01-13 07:14:29] Dtrade16 : johndoe: Yah but people are exploiting that margin
[2017-01-13 07:14:45] MikeHunt : what happens if 200 breaks? http://i.imgur.com/6obXxD5.png
[2017-01-13 07:15:00] Gekko : btc could disappear tommorow and the communist party would not be effected either way
[2017-01-13 07:15:25] aethlios : Dtrade16: http://allstarcharts.com/trendlines-logarithmic-scale-charts/
[2017-01-13 07:15:37] johndoe : Dtrade16: what does exploiting margin mean?
[2017-01-13 07:15:41] MikeHunt : Gekko: i think if they try it will just push it underground
[2017-01-13 07:16:11] Gekko : which means less demand, lower price
[2017-01-13 07:17:14] MikeHunt : Gekko: we'll have to wait and see, apparently gambling on btc is very popular in china
[2017-01-13 07:17:20] MikeHunt : i think regulation is probably most likely
[2017-01-13 07:17:21] Gekko : either way, the communist party has no incentive to allow an alternative to the CNY to exist
[2017-01-13 07:17:38] MikeHunt : it lets off steam from devaluation of currency
[2017-01-13 07:17:52] MikeHunt : the alternative is to go Venezuelan style
[2017-01-13 07:18:08] Gekko : today on Bloomberg they are reporting more capital controls
[2017-01-13 07:18:18] MikeHunt : Gekko: thats good for bitcoin
[2017-01-13 07:18:40] aethlios : imagine an anti-communist revolution happens in china after economic crisis (because west nationalist gov. starts trade war), so btc to the moon.
[2017-01-13 07:19:05] MikeHunt : aethlios: yep, trump president soon, label china currency manipulator
[2017-01-13 07:19:09] MikeHunt : aethlios: btc moon
[2017-01-13 07:19:56] aethlios : china debt bubble is based on keeping exports strong.
[2017-01-13 07:20:41] Gekko : not good if they. Make buying btc illegal. It used to be illegal to own gold in USA
[2017-01-13 07:20:53] Dtrade16 : aethlios: I see
[2017-01-13 07:21:25] MikeHunt : i do wonder whether it could lead to ww3
[2017-01-13 07:21:43] MikeHunt : us/china both have bad economic problems and could just end up blowing each other up
[2017-01-13 07:21:59] MikeHunt : usually happens when states cant distract domestic populace anymore
[2017-01-13 07:22:18] MikeHunt : then u got those islands in china sea
[2017-01-13 07:25:09] itsyourboy : What you guys were saying about the long term trends I think is spot on, we're on the cusp of another big downward move
[2017-01-13 07:26:55] johndoe : both sides know a war would be immensely self-destructive. Even ignoring nuclear warfare, the nature of cyber warfare, financial warfare, satellite destruction, etc, is that its very difficult to predict how the war would play out with any reliability. Each side has too many different sets of weapons and possible attacks in non-traditional areas. So each military can't expect a winning strategy.
[2017-01-13 07:27:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 14000 @ 770.27
[2017-01-13 07:30:02] johndoe : China sees the islands as critical to their national security, because they are necessary to ensure trades can be transported and to ensure that china cannot be easily surrounded/threatened. The U.S. gov's interests in the islands are minimal in comparison which is why the US essentially gave in and let the chinese take them over. US wants regional hegemony but they know that this is not realistic anymore
[2017-01-13 07:32:48] johndoe : By the way, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBe2wpZqN0s is a really good documentary series regarding war with china. Explains things much better than I just briefly did.
[2017-01-13 07:33:13] Dtrade16 : aethlios: There's a trend that started about 4 months ago, that hasn't been broken
[2017-01-13 07:33:43] Dtrade16 : aethlios: It did go through but we found support there, no?
[2017-01-13 07:34:12] aethlios : Dtrade16: found support for now.
[2017-01-13 07:41:32] Dtrade16 : aethlios: Ok
[2017-01-13 07:41:52] MikeHunt : getting too close to comfort
[2017-01-13 07:42:06] MikeHunt : for*
[2017-01-13 07:44:28] Dtrade16 : I got stopped out
[2017-01-13 07:47:18] QuantFocus : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/819808775032868865
[2017-01-13 07:47:23] QuantFocus : no more leverage in china?
[2017-01-13 07:48:37] MikeHunt : crash imminant then?
[2017-01-13 07:49:18] QuantFocus : i would think opposite
[2017-01-13 07:49:28] QuantFocus : much harder to speculate without 20x lev
[2017-01-13 07:49:32] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: It's a good thing
[2017-01-13 07:49:46] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: i know but im thinking perception wise
[2017-01-13 07:49:57] Dtrade16 : A degree of regulation
[2017-01-13 07:50:00] QuantFocus : i'm on the sidelines for now
[2017-01-13 07:50:06] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: It's gotta be taken as good news no?
[2017-01-13 07:50:35] Dtrade16 : Maybe not idk
[2017-01-13 07:52:23] Dtrade16 : This is good news
[2017-01-13 07:52:40] Dtrade16 : No more bs volume and volatility
[2017-01-13 07:52:46] Dtrade16 : This is very very good
[2017-01-13 07:52:58] Dtrade16 : It's regulation
[2017-01-13 07:53:08] QuantFocus : i would think it's going to stick much closer to fundamental value, if one can be determined
[2017-01-13 07:53:09] Dtrade16 : Unless I am getting that completely wrong
[2017-01-13 07:53:09] micmix : lol @Dtrade16
[2017-01-13 07:53:27] MikeHunt : if they've been faking since 2015
[2017-01-13 07:53:31] MikeHunt : where does that put us now?
[2017-01-13 07:53:58] QuantFocus : i'd agree with @Dtrade16. less opportunity for manipulation imo
[2017-01-13 07:54:18] MikeHunt : but im wondering whether that makes btc overvalued now as a result
[2017-01-13 07:54:33] MikeHunt : the mean before china pumps would make btc worth about 3-4k cny
[2017-01-13 07:54:34] micmix : yes, regulated markets are totally not manipulated /s
[2017-01-13 07:55:26] Dtrade16 : micmix: Not as much, you don't have as much insider trading and volatility
[2017-01-13 07:56:35] micmix : have you seen The Big Short? and it's only one example
[2017-01-13 07:58:32] Dtrade16 : I guess we go down then. I really don't know what to make of the news
[2017-01-13 07:59:08] Dtrade16 : I think it is a positive but I guess it will also lower the price?
[2017-01-13 08:00:04] MikeHunt : micmix: good movie
[2017-01-13 08:00:13] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: twitter seems to be positive
[2017-01-13 08:00:19] MikeHunt : so do china websutes
[2017-01-13 08:00:31] micmix : btc price says otherwise
[2017-01-13 08:00:42] MikeHunt : news is recent
[2017-01-13 08:00:46] MikeHunt : minutes
[2017-01-13 08:00:50] javierstone : MikeHunt: whats the news
[2017-01-13 08:01:08] MikeHunt : javierstone: no more leverage on china exchanges
[2017-01-13 08:01:16] MikeHunt : https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=bitcoin%20margin%20trading&src=typd
[2017-01-13 08:02:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 250 @ 771.65
[2017-01-13 08:02:27] micmix : no leverage, no trading, no money to be made, no pumps - price will go way down
[2017-01-13 08:02:39] QuantFocus : ehhh
[2017-01-13 08:02:43] Dtrade16 : here we go
[2017-01-13 08:02:58] MikeHunt : looks like china may have been better off leaving it alone
[2017-01-13 08:03:03] QuantFocus : btc has instrinsic value beyond pump gruops
[2017-01-13 08:03:03] MikeHunt : now it might blow up in their face
[2017-01-13 08:03:06] Dtrade16 : pump
[2017-01-13 08:03:09] Dtrade16 : incoming
[2017-01-13 08:03:56] dodic : opposite day
[2017-01-13 08:04:09] Dtrade16 : Back to 900?
[2017-01-13 08:04:42] aandy : just a random pump? or related to news u think
[2017-01-13 08:04:49] Dtrade16 : aandy: It's news
[2017-01-13 08:05:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 780.12
[2017-01-13 08:05:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 600 @ 779.78
[2017-01-13 08:05:15] Dtrade16 : China regulating exchanges
[2017-01-13 08:05:20] QuantFocus : looks like 845ish gets us back to support
[2017-01-13 08:05:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 500 @ 789.66
[2017-01-13 08:05:33] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: Are we pumping here or what?
[2017-01-13 08:05:40] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: Think we'll get a move?
[2017-01-13 08:05:46] REKT : Sell your house, sell your wife, sell your kids, BUY BITCOIN!
[2017-01-13 08:05:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 100000 @ 790.19 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-13 08:05:57] QuantFocus : i'm not convinced of anything at the moment
[2017-01-13 08:06:05] QuantFocus : 845 would be nice confirmation
[2017-01-13 08:06:07] dodic : ugh this is all crazy
[2017-01-13 08:06:38] QuantFocus : the fact that the exchanges are still operational is good news, and I don't think the removal of leverage is terrible
[2017-01-13 08:06:39] Dtrade16 : Come on bay
[2017-01-13 08:06:40] Dtrade16 : baby
[2017-01-13 08:07:05] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: It's not it's better for everyone
[2017-01-13 08:07:31] jonny : QuantFocus: removal of leverage where?
[2017-01-13 08:07:36] Dtrade16 : Except for the manipulators
[2017-01-13 08:07:43] QuantFocus : choyna
[2017-01-13 08:07:44] Dtrade16 : jonny: Chinese exchanges
[2017-01-13 08:07:59] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: I bet a lot of people are going to move into BTC after this
[2017-01-13 08:08:00] QuantFocus : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/819808775032868865
[2017-01-13 08:08:03] jonny : Dtrade16: there are news today?
[2017-01-13 08:08:04] Dtrade16 : QuantFocus: The avg investor
[2017-01-13 08:08:15] Dtrade16 : jonny: News just broke
[2017-01-13 08:08:40] Dtrade16 : We'll see what happens
[2017-01-13 08:10:20] jonny : bitmex is also chinese?
[2017-01-13 08:13:44] Dtrade16 : People buying?
[2017-01-13 08:13:55] Dtrade16 : It's only for margin trading
[2017-01-13 08:13:57] MikeHunt : seems to be the case
[2017-01-13 08:14:07] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: only for chinese citizens iirc
[2017-01-13 08:14:15] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: okcoin international unaffected iirc
[2017-01-13 08:14:31] johndoe : definitely good news for bitmex. tons of people going to come here to trade with leverage from china i'd assume
[2017-01-13 08:14:49] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Problems in China
[2017-01-13 08:14:54] Dtrade16 : johndoe: No they won't
[2017-01-13 08:15:02] Dtrade16 : I like this news guys
[2017-01-13 08:15:08] johndoe : why not
[2017-01-13 08:15:15] Dtrade16 : I think it's positive
[2017-01-13 08:15:29] Dtrade16 : johndoe: Because they use their own exchanges
[2017-01-13 08:15:37] Dtrade16 : johndoe: It's too much work
[2017-01-13 08:15:38] dodic : so is this all priced in then?