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[2017-01-12 03:52:30] Dtrade16 : sleger: You said 100 btc lol
[2017-01-12 03:52:32] arbitrage101 : only 1 btc
[2017-01-12 03:52:54] sleger : Dtrade16: that was to code your bot
[2017-01-12 03:52:55] arbitrage101 : cheap bot
[2017-01-12 03:54:38] brojo : 5 mins till the -.3750
[2017-01-12 03:55:33] XBT_IHCT : jedisatoshi: Entry Prices 6124.0 (-1398.72%) 824.07 (-772.96%) 807.96 (-420.34%)
[2017-01-12 03:56:45] jedisatoshi : damn brother
[2017-01-12 03:57:09] arbitrage101 : here come payday
[2017-01-12 03:57:09] ytaews : sleger: sorry wasn't implying you are running a ponzi scheme, just saying a good way to get ripped off
[2017-01-12 03:57:25] jedisatoshi : well if we head lower (which i dont think we will much) maybe deleverage some or even hedge the other way just my 2cents
[2017-01-12 03:57:51] Dtrade16 : sleger: Are most of these bots unprofitable?
[2017-01-12 03:58:18] sleger : idk
[2017-01-12 03:58:43] brojo : i would guess they are --- hard to trade without knowing the environment and media etc
[2017-01-12 03:58:50] mark121 : Did somebody say Robot *clink clink*?
[2017-01-12 03:59:22] ytaews : brojo: wouldn't the ppl running them just stop running them then?
[2017-01-12 03:59:22] Dtrade16 : sleger: Bots on cryptotrader for example
[2017-01-12 03:59:30] Dtrade16 : I heard they are
[2017-01-12 03:59:37] mark121 : I am Zotan, a fully programmable trade bot, my maker is named Dr. Reihnhart
[2017-01-12 04:00:13] arbitrage101 : ytaews: many traders keep losing money, yet they still trade
[2017-01-12 04:00:14] ytaews : Dtrade16: think about it. if they are profitable why is the person who owns them not just making that profit themselves??
[2017-01-12 04:00:22] arbitrage101 : something to ponder
[2017-01-12 04:00:36] Dtrade16 : ytaews: I know
[2017-01-12 04:01:22] ytaews : arbitrage101: I feel like most ppl running MM bots have a better idea of how much money they are making and are more likely to reduce size or stop trading than the average trader
[2017-01-12 04:01:28] ytaews : maybe giving them too much credit though
[2017-01-12 04:01:44] arbitrage101 : doubt MM bot make money everyday consistently
[2017-01-12 04:01:59] ytaews : sure. but long-run
[2017-01-12 04:02:18] arbitrage101 : what do you think is the reasonable return?
[2017-01-12 04:03:03] ytaews : have no idea. depends on which exchanges you're running on, spreads and volume
[2017-01-12 04:03:40] ytaews : lets assume here on bmex spreads probably around $1-2 normally, so lets say around 15-20bps
[2017-01-12 04:04:48] arbitrage101 : dang, price drop is largeter than funding payment
[2017-01-12 04:04:59] ytaews : so with maker fees you probably theoretically end up with about 10bps a trade? if you get 5% of the volume here, say 45m last 24h thats around 2k profit a day
[2017-01-12 04:05:00] arbitrage101 : guess i should have close rather than wait for funding
[2017-01-12 04:05:16] ytaews : you wouldn't do that well in practice because you're gonna get picked off a fair bit of the time
[2017-01-12 04:05:34] arbitrage101 : ytaews: All traders compete with each other
[2017-01-12 04:05:39] arbitrage101 : so is MM bots
[2017-01-12 04:05:55] ytaews : ?
[2017-01-12 04:06:01] brojo : money maker bots?
[2017-01-12 04:06:04] arbitrage101 : trading manually have the edge of having human intellligence
[2017-01-12 04:06:04] brojo : they just buy and sell the spread
[2017-01-12 04:06:17] ytaews : arbitrage101: ah yeh, ppl 4get that
[2017-01-12 04:06:24] Dtrade16 : ytaews: What's a mm bot?
[2017-01-12 04:06:27] ytaews : thats why computers will never replace pit traders
[2017-01-12 04:06:27] arbitrage101 : you assume automatic trading bot gives you an edge
[2017-01-12 04:06:37] ytaews : Dtrade16: market-making
[2017-01-12 04:06:50] XBT_IHCT : ytaews: do you run a bot?
[2017-01-12 04:07:01] ytaews : not here
[2017-01-12 04:07:12] XBT_IHCT : where then?
[2017-01-12 04:07:21] jedisatoshi : bots become predictable which is good for scalping
[2017-01-12 04:07:21] ytaews : other exchanges, rather not say
[2017-01-12 04:07:28] jedisatoshi : manual trader fo life!
[2017-01-12 04:07:28] KingTuna : I have just made 0.04BTC into 0.11 BTC - Soon will be 11 BTC and then 110 BTC - BIG SUCCESS
[2017-01-12 04:08:01] aandy : yeeeeeeeeee
[2017-01-12 04:08:11] jedisatoshi : Thats a bingo!
[2017-01-12 04:08:37] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: youmust be a 100x gambler then no?
[2017-01-12 04:08:46] Dtrade16 : ytaews: nice
[2017-01-12 04:08:58] KingTuna : XBT_IHCT: No ...max x15
[2017-01-12 04:09:21] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: well congrats then man!
[2017-01-12 04:09:34] KingTuna : 0.04 tuned into 0.11 with scalping these dips etc last 24 hours lol
[2017-01-12 04:09:58] KingTuna : XBT_IHCT: I would congratulate myself if I hadn't lost my ass on the big crash from 1100 lol
[2017-01-12 04:10:34] XBT_IHCT : KingTuna: oh you too then
[2017-01-12 04:10:57] XBT_IHCT : were you holding onto your coins rather than selling the top?
[2017-01-12 04:11:03] XBT_IHCT : I did that!
[2017-01-12 04:11:17] XBT_IHCT : with no hedge either!!
[2017-01-12 04:11:33] KingTuna : XBT_IHCT: Yup... I had made so much as well, got greedy
[2017-01-12 04:11:42] KingTuna : Should of sold bits on the way up
[2017-01-12 04:11:53] KingTuna : And forgot to put a stop
[2017-01-12 04:12:00] KingTuna : rookie errors
[2017-01-12 04:12:11] XBT_IHCT : I never use stops
[2017-01-12 04:12:56] KingTuna : One never knows exactly when the top is...*sigh*
[2017-01-12 04:13:23] jedisatoshi : XBT_IHCT: me either!
[2017-01-12 04:13:43] brojo : what do you think odds are that we see 25% further down in the price of btc through the weekend?
[2017-01-12 04:13:47] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: You use stops?
[2017-01-12 04:13:56] XBT_IHCT : it's philosophical, but I think it is better to stand behind your position with what you've got.
[2017-01-12 04:14:06] KingTuna : Dtrade16: nope... but clearly should
[2017-01-12 04:14:14] brojo : i am going to vegas and I think we've found some sort of bottom kind of just want to do 2-3x long and not look for 3-4 days like crazy
[2017-01-12 04:14:21] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: I lost my ass using stops
[2017-01-12 04:14:28] brojo : have to use stop limits
[2017-01-12 04:14:35] brojo : and trailing stops on winners
[2017-01-12 04:15:07] XBT_IHCT : rather than fight loss aversion with automation
[2017-01-12 04:15:18] Dtrade16 : brojo: Don't they get hit though?
[2017-01-12 04:15:41] Dtrade16 : brojo: How far down do you set your stop?
[2017-01-12 04:15:46] Dtrade16 : 1-2 %?
[2017-01-12 04:22:40] arezki : New on bitcoin ??
[2017-01-12 04:23:03] arezki : Lowered or increased,?
[2017-01-12 04:28:38] MikeHunt : brojo: if we hit 820 then maybe ya can
[2017-01-12 04:30:25] arezki : It will not go down to $ 400 per 1btc !!
[2017-01-12 04:31:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 17298 @ 767.66
[2017-01-12 04:31:47] Dtrade16 : Can I run a business name by you guys and you tell me if you like it or not?
[2017-01-12 04:31:57] Dtrade16 : It's for a dollar store business
[2017-01-12 04:32:45] sludge : Go for it
[2017-01-12 04:34:00] jedisatoshi : if its a bitcoin dollar store call it tid bits lol
[2017-01-12 04:38:13] MikeHunt : BitDolla
[2017-01-12 04:38:40] Dtrade16 : Dollar Goose
[2017-01-12 04:38:42] Dtrade16 : :D
[2017-01-12 04:39:01] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: lol
[2017-01-12 04:39:08] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: I like it
[2017-01-12 04:40:04] Dtrade16 : I was trying to get Dollar Panda but the domain name wasn't available
[2017-01-12 04:41:20] Dtrade16 : Give me your honest opinion guys - if you like or don't like I won't get upset and cry
[2017-01-12 04:41:40] sludge : Itty Bitty
[2017-01-12 04:41:59] sludge : I don't get it. Dollar Goose?
[2017-01-12 04:42:45] Dtrade16 : Well I'm in Canada and the nation bird is the Goose
[2017-01-12 04:43:00] Dtrade16 : That's why Goose
[2017-01-12 04:43:40] Dtrade16 : national
[2017-01-12 04:45:28] XBT_IHCT : anyone think we're going to get a big pump in the next 15~20 mins?
[2017-01-12 04:52:14] jonny : the 3month future is no more quadratic is it?
[2017-01-12 05:00:03] BitMEX_Wally : jonny: Correct, it is inverse
[2017-01-12 05:02:01] jonny : wonder what the historic quadratic one would have been traded at last week
[2017-01-12 05:02:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 4840 @ 758.49
[2017-01-12 05:04:50] jonny : hello XBTU16 my old friend, i've come to talk to you again
[2017-01-12 05:27:39] Derreck : pump incoming?
[2017-01-12 05:32:15] jedisatoshi : why is the mark price so low all the exchanges are above 760?
[2017-01-12 05:32:41] micmix : jedisatoshi: okc usd is @751
[2017-01-12 05:32:49] jedisatoshi : oooohhhh
[2017-01-12 05:33:22] jonny : bitstamp is more important than okc oin
[2017-01-12 05:33:53] micmix : index is 50% bitstamp 50% okc usd
[2017-01-12 05:34:05] jedisatoshi : jonny: yeah!
[2017-01-12 05:34:38] micmix : bitmex is way more important than bitstamp ;-)
[2017-01-12 05:35:15] XBT_IHCT : wow I didn't realise china was at a discount now!
[2017-01-12 05:36:26] jonny : manipulators want cash now
[2017-01-12 05:36:43] jonny : ?
[2017-01-12 05:36:44] MikeHunt : PBOC is investigating the exchanges
[2017-01-12 05:36:45] micmix : down, down, always down
[2017-01-12 05:36:48] MikeHunt : wouldnt go too long jsut yet
[2017-01-12 05:37:52] jonny : 17 hours ago $720, was bitmex moody, or was bitstamp to slow?
[2017-01-12 05:38:14] jonny : *too
[2017-01-12 05:39:55] XBT_IHCT : micmix: I hope you're trolling man
[2017-01-12 05:41:55] XBT_IHCT : micmix: ?
[2017-01-12 05:43:09] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: are you still stuck up high on leverage?
[2017-01-12 05:43:50] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: I don't do high leverage
[2017-01-12 05:44:58] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: just stuck high then?
[2017-01-12 05:45:31] MikeHunt : iirc contracts even at 1x have a liq on buys
[2017-01-12 05:46:27] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: yeah
[2017-01-12 05:46:57] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: im not sure there is much benefit to keeping it if its on 1x
[2017-01-12 05:49:35] jonny : iirc=?
[2017-01-12 05:50:22] jonny : actually, is there any trading service or exchange rewarding every marketmaker, like bitmex does?
[2017-01-12 05:50:50] MikeHunt : jonny: if i recall corectly
[2017-01-12 05:51:04] MikeHunt : jonny: kraken?
[2017-01-12 05:51:43] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: no Kraken does not
[2017-01-12 05:52:49] micmix : jonny: gemini has maker rebate if you do enough volume
[2017-01-12 05:53:15] XBT_IHCT : micmix: do you trade there?
[2017-01-12 05:54:43] micmix : XBT_IHCT: a little
[2017-01-12 06:00:09] nOgAnOo : yo
[2017-01-12 06:00:18] nOgAnOo : lost the last of my money yesterday
[2017-01-12 06:00:21] nOgAnOo : 160 dollars
[2017-01-12 06:00:26] nOgAnOo : down 500 this week now
[2017-01-12 06:00:30] nOgAnOo : wish I never would have came here
[2017-01-12 06:00:57] nOgAnOo : then I gotta listen to everyones generic bullshit after i got rekt like "we told you so"
[2017-01-12 06:01:10] nOgAnOo : and "too high of leverage"
[2017-01-12 06:01:22] nOgAnOo : when they have no idea what happened
[2017-01-12 06:01:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5 @ 750.92
[2017-01-12 06:01:52] nOgAnOo : and a big thanks to XBT_IHCT
[2017-01-12 06:02:01] nOgAnOo : for inviting me here and then ignoring my skype calls for a week
[2017-01-12 06:02:11] nOgAnOo : while I repeatedly got rekt
[2017-01-12 06:02:30] johndoe : lol stop whining
[2017-01-12 06:02:33] johndoe : your an adult
[2017-01-12 06:02:37] johndoe : i think
[2017-01-12 06:02:39] nOgAnOo : yes
[2017-01-12 06:02:41] micmix : nOgAnOo: it was a bad week, you should have come here couple month earlier
[2017-01-12 06:02:42] nOgAnOo : and you are an atheist
[2017-01-12 06:03:03] nOgAnOo : you realize that "stop whining" is actually whining right little punk?
[2017-01-12 06:03:06] XBT_IHCT : nOgAnOo: you're not even on line man
[2017-01-12 06:03:12] micmix : nOgAnOo: hard to make money in this market
[2017-01-12 06:03:23] micmix : for a new trader
[2017-01-12 06:04:01] johndoe : leverage is by far the number one enemy of new traders here. if people simply avoided leverage, things would go so much more smoothly. But people want to gamble, not invest.
[2017-01-12 06:04:29] nOgAnOo : generic mumbo jumbo fuckin nonsense
[2017-01-12 06:04:32] nOgAnOo : keep talking bitch
[2017-01-12 06:04:53] XBT_IHCT : nOgAnOo: and you don't listen to me anyway
[2017-01-12 06:05:22] nOgAnOo : you longed before the huge dump
[2017-01-12 06:05:27] nOgAnOo : and didn't take profit at 1300
[2017-01-12 06:05:35] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: wow man.. if its too hot in the kitchen stay the hell out.. you just paid tuition for learning how to trade.
[2017-01-12 06:05:39] nOgAnOo : I called both the peak and the dump nearly to the dollar
[2017-01-12 06:06:09] XBT_IHCT : nOgAnOo: then why aren't you in massive profit?
[2017-01-12 06:06:11] johndoe : talk is cheap.
[2017-01-12 06:06:11] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: you cant blame anyone in here for your loss dude. you make your own choices
[2017-01-12 06:06:38] nOgAnOo : XBT, you remember when you invited me here
[2017-01-12 06:06:46] nOgAnOo : and said you would teach me how to use the platform
[2017-01-12 06:06:52] nOgAnOo : then ignored my skype calls for a week?
[2017-01-12 06:06:58] nOgAnOo : this was around Christmas time
[2017-01-12 06:07:14] XBT_IHCT : man you don't listen to me
[2017-01-12 06:07:23] nOgAnOo : yes, because you never answered skype
[2017-01-12 06:07:24] nOgAnOo : for a week
[2017-01-12 06:07:27] nOgAnOo : I have logs of this
[2017-01-12 06:07:30] nOgAnOo : I called you many times
[2017-01-12 06:07:40] jedisatoshi : If you are making your trading decisions based on what someone else tells you to do you are asking for it
[2017-01-12 06:07:51] nOgAnOo : ok so "you should have listened"
[2017-01-12 06:07:55] nOgAnOo : and "don't listen to others"
[2017-01-12 06:07:56] jedisatoshi : you have to make your own decisions and if you are new dont bet alot
[2017-01-12 06:07:59] nOgAnOo : i love you guys advice
[2017-01-12 06:08:09] nOgAnOo : you're great
[2017-01-12 06:08:11] XBT_IHCT : I've tried to help you out and you don't listen
[2017-01-12 06:08:17] nOgAnOo : "listen"
[2017-01-12 06:08:18] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: you are taking this all the wrong way
[2017-01-12 06:08:21] nOgAnOo : wait "don't listen"
[2017-01-12 06:08:29] XBT_IHCT : I told you to use less leverage how many times?
[2017-01-12 06:08:44] jedisatoshi : listen to advice but dont blindly bet your money bc someone tells you too
[2017-01-12 06:08:46] jedisatoshi : to
[2017-01-12 06:08:52] nOgAnOo : you also told me about lowering entry price
[2017-01-12 06:08:56] nOgAnOo : which got me rekt a few times
[2017-01-12 06:09:05] nOgAnOo : sucked me into high leverage
[2017-01-12 06:09:25] nOgAnOo : so you want me to start at 0.000001 leverage
[2017-01-12 06:09:31] nOgAnOo : with my 5 dollars
[2017-01-12 06:09:37] nOgAnOo : and click click click the day away just like you
[2017-01-12 06:09:40] nOgAnOo : for 3 pennies
[2017-01-12 06:09:44] jedisatoshi : listen to others analysis but make your own judgement and own it. Its not his fault its yours. and every bit you lose is tuition you pay to learn
[2017-01-12 06:09:47] johndoe : and now you've learned the lesson in a visceral way which is a useful education if you use it
[2017-01-12 06:10:01] johndoe : use your losses as training
[2017-01-12 06:10:14] johndoe : everyone loses when they first start trading - just like in poker
[2017-01-12 06:10:17] micmix : down, down, always down we go
[2017-01-12 06:10:41] nOgAnOo : anyways, thanks micmix for trying to help me
[2017-01-12 06:10:58] nOgAnOo : you and premium freak both helped me after I got rekt
[2017-01-12 06:11:05] nOgAnOo : and I will forever appreciate that
[2017-01-12 06:11:12] micmix : nOgAnOo: np, come back when the market is more quiet, it's much easier
[2017-01-12 06:11:13] jedisatoshi : johndoe: exactly i lost for damn near a year straight before i felt like i had a decent strategy but i never bet bc someone tells you to do so. No one in here knows the future
[2017-01-12 06:11:26] nOgAnOo : The last time I got rekt it was because of someones massive liquidation
[2017-01-12 06:11:31] nOgAnOo : there was no trading mistake made
[2017-01-12 06:11:38] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/jdQYoloF/
[2017-01-12 06:12:12] nOgAnOo : the price just never went back to "normal"
[2017-01-12 06:12:35] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: that is ridiculous the fact that you can see other traders stops in the order book gave you an advantage
[2017-01-12 06:12:39] johndoe : yes, it is a critical lesson to never bet based on another person's advice - because you won't know when to get out and because you won't be committed in the trade. This applies to any futures/forex trading as well.
[2017-01-12 06:13:30] nOgAnOo : I had never seen someone's liquidation move the price 7 dollars before, jedi
[2017-01-12 06:13:44] nOgAnOo : I'm new here
[2017-01-12 06:13:50] jedisatoshi : liquidations are part of the market i purposely try to hit them so i can place limits on the other side! thats trading my friend welcome to the free market!
[2017-01-12 06:14:25] johndoe : every market has people who hunt stops. It's a standard tactic that you need to expect and prepare for
[2017-01-12 06:14:37] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: $7 or even $20 just depends on the size and how thin the order book is
[2017-01-12 06:15:03] jedisatoshi : you have to watch the order book and judge liquidity just another variable to master
[2017-01-12 06:16:34] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: Im sorry for your loss man i dont take pleasure seeing other people go broke especially newbies but you cant blame others and get all down about it. I lost 10K like 6 months ago and it sucked but it was a valuable lession and i dont regret shit!
[2017-01-12 06:17:42] johndoe : you really ought to focus on learning to trade and not try to make lots of money when you are first trading, especially on a platform that you are unfamiliar with. It takes months - at a minimum - to really know what you are doing at a level that is capable of making money without dumb luck.
[2017-01-12 06:17:52] Dtrade16 : aethlios: If it breaks 710s we're in free fall?
[2017-01-12 06:18:42] aethlios : Dtrade16: stamp 755 and quarterly 710, we are doomed for 550-570.
[2017-01-12 06:18:45] johndoe : and definitely don't have the mindset that you need to get back your losses and get even - that is a gambler's thought process
[2017-01-12 06:18:56] aethlios : Dtrade16: stamp at the edge now.
[2017-01-12 06:19:08] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yeah man im long but if we break 710 im gonna go ahead and take a 4-5 btc loss and call it a night... NOT BLAME ANYONE and get it back tomorrow lol
[2017-01-12 06:19:13] aethlios : place bids 560, not more
[2017-01-12 06:19:33] Dtrade16 : Jez
[2017-01-12 06:20:16] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yeah but this was me sunday! managed to get out at this level before the drop! http://imgur.com/a/hqgmv
[2017-01-12 06:20:45] nOgAnOo : Who said I'm blaming anyone?
[2017-01-12 06:20:56] nOgAnOo : I'm just saying Fuck You for giving shit advice
[2017-01-12 06:21:04] nOgAnOo : generic unconstructive shit advice
[2017-01-12 06:21:06] nOgAnOo : most of you
[2017-01-12 06:21:16] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: hey i just realized you were in my screenshot i posted just now lol
[2017-01-12 06:21:24] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: how did you do that day??
[2017-01-12 06:21:39] nOgAnOo : I've lost my last 12 deposits
[2017-01-12 06:21:51] nOgAnOo : not sure what day you were talking about but I lost
[2017-01-12 06:21:51] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QrZGDe1Q/
[2017-01-12 06:22:08] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Crazy
[2017-01-12 06:22:32] nOgAnOo : so now I'm the big fucking idiot coz I lost my money right before the big dump I was expecting
[2017-01-12 06:22:35] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: crazy indeed but that was a great day my friend!
[2017-01-12 06:22:36] nOgAnOo : I am the idiot newbie
[2017-01-12 06:22:43] nOgAnOo : "why aren't you rich then if you called it"
[2017-01-12 06:22:52] nOgAnOo : umm coz I got liquidated to the penny before a dump?
[2017-01-12 06:22:58] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah congrats!
[2017-01-12 06:23:06] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: I am a new trader
[2017-01-12 06:23:07] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: your just new not stupid lol you just have some more money to lose before you get better lol
[2017-01-12 06:23:18] Dtrade16 : Lost about 4k CAD in this dump
[2017-01-12 06:23:24] Dtrade16 : Looks like more now
[2017-01-12 06:23:26] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yike bro
[2017-01-12 06:23:41] MikeHunt : i lost 3.5k
[2017-01-12 06:23:47] MikeHunt : learned a lot though
[2017-01-12 06:23:54] MikeHunt : worth 3.5k? find out i guess....
[2017-01-12 06:24:28] Dtrade16 : Yah
[2017-01-12 06:24:30] Dtrade16 : BS
[2017-01-12 06:24:39] Dtrade16 : 1500 USD last night
[2017-01-12 06:24:43] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: click this link you were in the trollbox this day and we were talking then too thats the day im talking about http://imgur.com/a/hqgmv
[2017-01-12 06:25:20] nOgAnOo : I was sick then.. it was a haze
[2017-01-12 06:25:22] nOgAnOo : I don't remember
[2017-01-12 06:25:49] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: well just keep your head up man you'll get better
[2017-01-12 06:26:05] nOgAnOo : I was doing so great
[2017-01-12 06:26:14] nOgAnOo : I make awesome trades until I trade overtired
[2017-01-12 06:26:23] nOgAnOo : and I don't listen to my conscience and sleep
[2017-01-12 06:26:27] jedisatoshi : nOgAnOo: yeah that happens to the best of us
[2017-01-12 06:26:27] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Are you hedging at all?
[2017-01-12 06:26:35] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: currently no
[2017-01-12 06:26:42] nOgAnOo : I was using low leverage all day until the end
[2017-01-12 06:26:59] nOgAnOo : i made a lot of profit and increased the size of my trades disproportionately
[2017-01-12 06:27:28] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: I am short USDJPY on 1broker right now tho doing pretty nice
[2017-01-12 06:27:56] jedisatoshi : but if we get below 720ish ill start deleveraging and scaling out
[2017-01-12 06:28:33] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: Im long at 765
[2017-01-12 06:31:45] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-12 06:32:03] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: I'm long 780s
[2017-01-12 06:32:27] Dtrade16 : Is it worth it to just keep my long you think? @jedisatoshi
[2017-01-12 06:32:39] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: My liq price is around 480s
[2017-01-12 06:34:24] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: keep a close eye on it/have stops
[2017-01-12 06:35:22] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: I guess I'll set my stop to 710 then
[2017-01-12 06:35:28] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Where's yours?
[2017-01-12 06:36:04] MikeHunt : i have alarms to alert me
[2017-01-12 06:36:10] MikeHunt : but im short
[2017-01-12 06:36:15] MikeHunt : got a nice high point
[2017-01-12 06:36:29] MikeHunt : see if this can hold 5k and then rejoin if it looks better
[2017-01-12 06:37:04] MikeHunt : atm it looks like its gonna do what its been doing since drop, bounce around then drop again and repeat
[2017-01-12 06:45:11] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: I dont want to tell you what to do bc that depends on your position size.. if its not that big then i would just hold it but thats just me
[2017-01-12 06:45:23] jedisatoshi : bc i think we will bounce
[2017-01-12 06:45:57] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Thanks bro
[2017-01-12 06:46:08] jedisatoshi : if it is a large position size and we get another move down i would consider scaling down a bit
[2017-01-12 06:46:54] jedisatoshi : dont want to lose it all ya know want to live to trade another day.. i have had some epic comebacks so i never doubt that you can always turn it around no matter how much you are down
[2017-01-12 06:46:55] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: I have like 4 coins and leveraged another 3
[2017-01-12 06:47:37] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: ok well lets watch for a bit im in the same boat as you hoping for a bottom and bounce
[2017-01-12 06:47:48] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Well thanks for the advice, I appreciate it
[2017-01-12 06:48:07] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah this is just madness
[2017-01-12 06:48:32] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: no worries man never do i try to tell people what to do but ill let you know what im doing and what i would do
[2017-01-12 06:49:47] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Awesome, I made a few emotional trades when I shouldn't have so I gotta cut that out
[2017-01-12 06:50:02] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: check this one out on my usdjpy trade as we speak http://imgur.com/a/ywUpP
[2017-01-12 06:50:34] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: having a decent night over there slightly underwater here lol
[2017-01-12 06:52:57] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: You're shorting JPY?
[2017-01-12 06:53:35] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice lol
[2017-01-12 06:53:35] jedisatoshi : shorting the dollar against yen
[2017-01-12 06:54:27] jedisatoshi : 200x leverage there
[2017-01-12 06:55:02] jedisatoshi : but the volitility is not the same so you at least want to leverage 50x with that stuff
[2017-01-12 06:55:30] Dtrade16 : Nice
[2017-01-12 06:55:50] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Is that a hedge?
[2017-01-12 06:56:09] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: nah just a separate trade
[2017-01-12 06:56:22] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-12 06:56:28] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: but it is sort of serving as a hedge to my loss here lol
[2017-01-12 06:56:47] enki0182 : here comes another mini-dump
[2017-01-12 06:56:49] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: So you can trade currencies with btc on that site?
[2017-01-12 06:56:53] Dtrade16 : Cool
[2017-01-12 06:57:02] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yeah man 1broker is the shit
[2017-01-12 06:57:03] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: lol
[2017-01-12 06:57:11] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Sick
[2017-01-12 06:57:28] jedisatoshi : currencies stock commodities even the major indexes
[2017-01-12 06:57:30] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Never knew that. Is it just currencies?
[2017-01-12 06:57:39] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Seriously?
[2017-01-12 06:58:23] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yeah man and really secure never had a problem been with them for almost 3 years
[2017-01-12 06:58:28] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Oh that's brilliant, I wondered if there was something like that lol
[2017-01-12 06:58:40] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: if you are interested here is my referal link show some loves https://1broker.com/m/r.php?i=4004
[2017-01-12 06:58:47] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Sweet. How long you been trading bro?
[2017-01-12 06:59:07] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: I got an error lol
[2017-01-12 06:59:13] jedisatoshi : since i was 22 im 29 now so yeah lol
[2017-01-12 06:59:20] jedisatoshi : hmmm
[2017-01-12 06:59:28] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-12 06:59:49] jedisatoshi : try this one https://1broker.com/?r=11374
[2017-01-12 07:00:02] Dtrade16 : Yah it's good
[2017-01-12 07:00:19] jedisatoshi : word
[2017-01-12 07:01:32] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Will sign up if I have any money left lol
[2017-01-12 07:01:41] jedisatoshi : yeah usdjpy is kinda my pair i just usually stick with that one.. i have a feel for how it behaves so thats the one i stick with.. dont mess with stocks too much unless im really confident about earnings or something
[2017-01-12 07:01:48] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: lol nice
[2017-01-12 07:02:00] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: true true
[2017-01-12 07:02:38] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: oh and i like to dabble with oil too
[2017-01-12 07:03:00] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Are you a full time trader?
[2017-01-12 07:03:42] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: well i dont work for a company or anything but i do trade everyday... so i guess i am! ha i never really thought of it like that lol
[2017-01-12 07:04:02] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Lol
[2017-01-12 07:04:19] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah I think that qualifies lol
[2017-01-12 07:04:26] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Are you in the states?
[2017-01-12 07:04:40] Derreck : and down it goes
[2017-01-12 07:04:41] jedisatoshi : i do manage to make an ok living out of it. I learned about BTC back in 2011 and that really kinda put me on the map to be free.. dont have a 9-5 lol
[2017-01-12 07:04:49] Dtrade16 : States
[2017-01-12 07:04:53] jedisatoshi : but i do other stuffs too
[2017-01-12 07:05:02] jedisatoshi : yeah im In NC
[2017-01-12 07:05:45] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-12 07:05:51] Dtrade16 : I'm in Toronto
[2017-01-12 07:06:07] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: cool never been there how do you like it?
[2017-01-12 07:06:29] jedisatoshi : I use a Totonto VPN lol
[2017-01-12 07:06:36] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: It's alright I guess, it's a meat grinder though
[2017-01-12 07:06:38] jedisatoshi : Toronto
[2017-01-12 07:06:41] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: lol
[2017-01-12 07:07:51] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: It's a smaller version of NY I guess you could say
[2017-01-12 07:07:59] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Maybe more liberal
[2017-01-12 07:08:02] jedisatoshi : yeah im not much for the cold.. lived in Milwaukee WI for a short period of time and i couldnt handle it lol
[2017-01-12 07:08:12] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: cool
[2017-01-12 07:08:21] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah hate the cold too, it sucks
[2017-01-12 07:08:45] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: How is NC?
[2017-01-12 07:08:47] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: Originally from Cali but moved around alot
[2017-01-12 07:09:10] jedisatoshi : I like NC a little conservative but I like it
[2017-01-12 07:09:22] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: True, it is
[2017-01-12 07:10:03] Dtrade16 : Well you guys got trump now so it should be interesting
[2017-01-12 07:10:11] Dtrade16 : Wonder how the markets will continue to do
[2017-01-12 07:10:16] Dtrade16 : I say good
[2017-01-12 07:10:20] jedisatoshi : yeah interesting is the word lol
[2017-01-12 07:10:27] Dtrade16 : Think we might have a few wars though lol
[2017-01-12 07:10:33] Dtrade16 : Lol
[2017-01-12 07:10:42] jedisatoshi : well they are doing pretty good so far but im not sure for how long
[2017-01-12 07:10:55] jedisatoshi : think we are long overdue for a big correction
[2017-01-12 07:11:16] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah that sounds reasonable
[2017-01-12 07:12:01] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: One good thing is that he is a successful businessman
[2017-01-12 07:12:36] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: see like right now i have to make a decision.. i want to go to bed but i dont want to leave my long open and im not sure if we are going to dump more.. so im debating taking my 1.5 BTC loss here and taking my profit on 1 broker that will put me ahead 2 BTC for tonight net
[2017-01-12 07:12:37] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: People say he failed before but I think a lot of businessman fail
[2017-01-12 07:13:02] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: def failure is a good thing to me thats how you learn man
[2017-01-12 07:13:19] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: True
[2017-01-12 07:13:33] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yah I'm afraid to go to sleep too lol
[2017-01-12 07:13:40] Dtrade16 : I'm on China time
[2017-01-12 07:25:04] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: man when i get out of my trades i think im going to withdraw to my cold storage and sleep for a couple days lol
[2017-01-12 07:25:47] jedisatoshi : we must be the only ones in the trollbox right now lol
[2017-01-12 07:26:31] jedisatoshi : oh and one great thing about 1 broker is all they require is an email no personal info
[2017-01-12 07:28:45] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Sick
[2017-01-12 07:28:52] Dtrade16 : Lol
[2017-01-12 07:29:14] imabeast : looks like everyone got rekt on here lol
[2017-01-12 07:29:36] imabeast : or taking a break from getting rekt
[2017-01-12 07:30:28] jedisatoshi : imabeast: yeah getting rekt will beat you down lol
[2017-01-12 07:31:58] imabeast : yea been there once
[2017-01-12 07:31:59] imabeast : lol
[2017-01-12 07:35:32] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: What do you think about USD/CAD?
[2017-01-12 07:36:09] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: I exchanged when USD was so high now it's starting to slide
[2017-01-12 07:36:19] Dtrade16 : Cause of oil
[2017-01-12 07:38:14] jedisatoshi : i dont really trade that pair too much but the dollar is sliding so i would say its a short but not really sure
[2017-01-12 07:40:41] jedisatoshi : gold just hit 1200 tho... wish I would have longed that from like 1180
[2017-01-12 07:40:52] jedisatoshi : i was watching it too!
[2017-01-12 07:43:00] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: are you on Tradingview?
[2017-01-12 07:44:16] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: I'm holding a decent amount of physical gold and silver
[2017-01-12 07:44:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 63505 @ 742.31 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-12 07:44:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 40000 @ 742.65
[2017-01-12 07:44:22] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: No I'm not
[2017-01-12 07:44:33] Dtrade16 : Here we go
[2017-01-12 07:44:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1100 @ 741.49
[2017-01-12 07:45:17] jedisatoshi : yup but not much volume on it which doesnt have me rushing to get out
[2017-01-12 07:46:02] imabeast : how loww can it goooo
[2017-01-12 07:46:07] jedisatoshi : im going to hold for now
[2017-01-12 07:46:29] Dtrade16 : Yah thankfully
[2017-01-12 07:47:13] enki0182 : its on its way to 500
[2017-01-12 07:47:17] imabeast : man if this breaks 720
[2017-01-12 07:47:18] enki0182 : maybe 600
[2017-01-12 07:47:19] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: now is a good time for me to buy on the spot market.. def wish i didnt get into my long position or i wish i was just now entering it
[2017-01-12 07:47:34] jedisatoshi : enki0182: what makes you think that low?
[2017-01-12 07:48:02] imabeast : if 720 breaks spot
[2017-01-12 07:48:05] imabeast : were going gto 680
[2017-01-12 07:49:16] jedisatoshi : imabeast: yeah 720ish is my level im watching too
[2017-01-12 07:49:38] imabeast : jedisatoshi: pretty sure it will test it again later tonite
[2017-01-12 07:50:49] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: You going to close your long if it hits 720?
[2017-01-12 07:51:04] enki0182 : last chance to short
[2017-01-12 07:51:26] imabeast : Dtrade16: im short lol
[2017-01-12 07:51:29] imabeast : since 780
[2017-01-12 07:51:37] enki0182 : nice move
[2017-01-12 07:51:41] imabeast : 776 to be exact
[2017-01-12 07:52:10] Dtrade16 : imabeast: Nice
[2017-01-12 07:52:48] jedisatoshi : i dont know man im not convinced by that little tantrum lol im going to add to my long down here.. no guts no glory
[2017-01-12 07:53:35] imabeast : yea may not be a bad idea
[2017-01-12 07:53:52] Ahhere : Are we rich yet?
[2017-01-12 07:53:54] imabeast : idk tho haha im just gonna see how this plays out
[2017-01-12 07:54:04] imabeast : i have a little room to work with
[2017-01-12 07:54:43] XBT_IHCT : jedisatoshi: I just did the same thing
[2017-01-12 07:55:00] XBT_IHCT : on one of my positions anyway
[2017-01-12 07:55:30] imabeast : keep an eye out for usdcnh
[2017-01-12 07:55:45] imabeast : btc usually dumps if it does
[2017-01-12 07:56:22] aethlios : when the investigation ends? did they say 7 days?
[2017-01-12 07:58:10] enki0182 : investigation ends 18th jan.
[2017-01-12 08:00:17] aethlios : daily MFI 34, from 83, approaches oversold area which is 20, so if we deep another 150 usd this will send mfi at 20 or below.
[2017-01-12 08:02:16] jedisatoshi : imabeast: yeah that is a good indicator
[2017-01-12 08:03:08] imabeast : if this bounces to 760 or so id take a short
[2017-01-12 08:03:28] imabeast : dunno if it wil tho
[2017-01-12 08:04:07] imabeast : usdcnh dumping
[2017-01-12 08:04:15] imabeast : if it breaks support watch out for btc dump
[2017-01-12 08:04:38] aethlios : dollar weak, also euro 1.0635
[2017-01-12 08:05:14] Dtrade16 : Is 720 a good stop?
[2017-01-12 08:05:29] imabeast : if ur long ?
[2017-01-12 08:05:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 746.06
[2017-01-12 08:05:37] Dtrade16 : imabeast: Yah
[2017-01-12 08:05:50] imabeast : maybe a couple dollars under
[2017-01-12 08:05:57] imabeast : would suck if it hits 720 again and bounces
[2017-01-12 08:05:58] imabeast : lol
[2017-01-12 08:06:14] Dtrade16 : Yah true lol
[2017-01-12 08:07:34] imabeast : watch out guys
[2017-01-12 08:07:40] imabeast : new daily low on usdcnh
[2017-01-12 08:07:58] imabeast : if ur long set stop losses now
[2017-01-12 08:07:59] imabeast : lol
[2017-01-12 08:08:21] imabeast : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/DkKZCaoP/
[2017-01-12 08:08:55] feeling8ts : CHINA GIVES BAD NEWS,EUROPE DO PANIC SALES.IRONICALLY,CHINA DIDNT CAUSE VOLATIVITY YESTERDAY AND TODAY
[2017-01-12 08:08:59] imabeast : ^expect that to happen to btc
[2017-01-12 08:09:07] imabeast : tradingview link
[2017-01-12 08:10:57] XXXX : We need MM bots on ltc7D pronto. Volume about to crazy in 2 weeks
[2017-01-12 08:12:51] Derreck : XBTH17 is below XBTUSD?
[2017-01-12 08:13:36] enki0182 : CNY falling hard
[2017-01-12 08:14:03] imabeast : enki0182: yea pretty bad lol
[2017-01-12 08:15:09] aandy : so far its not reacting negatively
[2017-01-12 08:15:39] imabeast : yea may be a couple hours
[2017-01-12 08:15:40] imabeast : who knows
[2017-01-12 08:16:12] Dtrade16 : Why is CNY up?
[2017-01-12 08:16:23] Dtrade16 : Dollar down?
[2017-01-12 08:17:21] XXXX : Can we rename chinese trollbox to REKT?
[2017-01-12 08:24:30] imabeast : nice short opp coming up
[2017-01-12 08:25:59] abbey : up we go
[2017-01-12 08:28:07] imabeast : 760
[2017-01-12 08:30:41] abbey : bull wants to run
[2017-01-12 08:32:02] imabeast : bulltrap
[2017-01-12 08:32:26] abbey : let's see about that
[2017-01-12 08:32:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2160 @ 758.62
[2017-01-12 08:40:32] aethlios : θσδψνη 6.85
[2017-01-12 08:43:22] imabeast : abbey: yea.. it was a bull trap lol.. but was a good opportunity to short
[2017-01-12 08:44:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6500 @ 754.83
[2017-01-12 08:45:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 50 @ 747.94
[2017-01-12 08:46:01] imabeast : get ready for the bttc drop
[2017-01-12 08:46:25] abbey : imabeast: ok
[2017-01-12 08:51:36] jedisatoshi : this is bullish from here i think the bottom is in
[2017-01-12 08:53:06] abbey : jedisatoshi: agree
[2017-01-12 08:53:41] jedisatoshi : i feel confident enough to sleep now lol
[2017-01-12 08:53:42] jedisatoshi : lol
[2017-01-12 08:54:03] enki0182 : duuuump
[2017-01-12 08:55:27] jedisatoshi : hahaha well ill set an alarm... and maybe keep my laptop on
[2017-01-12 08:55:37] XBT_IHCT : jedisatoshi: wow man are you sure?
[2017-01-12 08:56:13] jedisatoshi : nothing is forsure but i feel pretty.. and i have plenty of room on it
[2017-01-12 08:56:39] jedisatoshi : but im going to set some limit sells at like 715 705ish
[2017-01-12 08:56:46] jedisatoshi : just incase lol
[2017-01-12 08:58:48] XBT_IHCT : jedisatoshi: good luck and sleep well man!
[2017-01-12 09:04:54] imabeast : here we go?
[2017-01-12 09:04:57] aandy : oh damn
[2017-01-12 09:05:08] imabeast : jedisatoshi: dont go to sleep yet
[2017-01-12 09:05:11] imabeast : lol
[2017-01-12 09:05:48] Derreck : and down it goes... again
[2017-01-12 09:05:56] aethlios : I never go to sleep with out my gun loaded (=pc open)
[2017-01-12 09:06:16] imabeast : yes this is test 720
[2017-01-12 09:06:21] Derreck : how do people like to say - buy the dip?
[2017-01-12 09:06:58] imabeast : would prob be a $10 bounce from 720
[2017-01-12 09:07:00] imabeast : then down more