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[2017-01-10 12:47:08] enki0182 : may g back down to 860, but no lower on next 72 hours.
[2017-01-10 12:50:30] enki0182 : gunna bust through previous top, then go higher, then cycle lower to less than previous bottom.
[2017-01-10 12:51:01] enki0182 : may slumber until Jan 12th when the uan takes a :real: hit... then we back in business
[2017-01-10 12:58:14] birdie numn : i think the new peoples money who saw the ath during bank holidays should get btheir money on exchanges like troday-tmrw. might provide mid-term support for 920 if people trade against the influx of new money.
[2017-01-10 12:58:41] birdie numn : until the inevitable trump pump
[2017-01-10 12:59:21] rapidtrades : so many newbs!
[2017-01-10 12:59:39] birdie numn : :)
[2017-01-10 12:59:39] alejandromasari : bitcoin is being heavily promoted on cnbc
[2017-01-10 12:59:45] birdie numn : yes. good to be here
[2017-01-10 13:04:28] rapidtrades : alejandromasari: are u sure it's being 'promoted'? or reported
[2017-01-10 13:06:01] rustiv : inevitable trump pump
[2017-01-10 13:06:11] rustiv : i like that
[2017-01-10 13:06:32] birdie numn : rapidtrades: i think e was talking about that http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000582735&play=1
[2017-01-10 13:12:12] rapidtrades : lol so they intervied a guy from Coinbase who pumped BTC
[2017-01-10 13:12:43] rapidtrades : guess its good they didn't pump ETH and shit on BTC
[2017-01-10 13:12:56] birdie numn : tl;dw: CNBC's Kate Rogers knows bitcoin adoption to be binary and asks if it didnt happen in 2013 then the whole concept must be a fud
[2017-01-10 13:32:57] enki0182 : rustiv - where is the market going?
[2017-01-10 13:40:35] enki0182 : ^? thought the marker was 830?
[2017-01-10 13:40:56] enki0182 : last time i listen to rustiv
[2017-01-10 13:41:09] sleger : @aethlios : still waiting with bids at 710 ?
[2017-01-10 13:41:24] enki0182 : ^dont wait m8....
[2017-01-10 13:41:34] sleger : ^ its not me dummy
[2017-01-10 13:41:50] enki0182 : maybe between 10th and 11th it might get down to that .... but then its rrofin on 12-18th.
[2017-01-10 13:41:57] enki0182 : roofing*
[2017-01-10 13:42:22] enki0182 : ^ :P ... goood stuff then
[2017-01-10 13:47:19] enki0182 : bitmex is better than the other exchanges by far....
[2017-01-10 13:47:51] enki0182 : easy to understand for "noob traders like me".... and doesnt scalp the crap out of you forever....lol
[2017-01-10 13:48:47] enki0182 : who is ready for the next liftoff on huobi from 6330 - >6400+?
[2017-01-10 13:48:49] birdie numn : the noob comment was directed at me!
[2017-01-10 13:49:11] birdie numn : i have longs from 904
[2017-01-10 13:49:23] enki0182 : no birdie - i got raped by finex too...hehe
[2017-01-10 13:50:01] enki0182 : birdie numn: keep them... as long as your liq pos isnt 880 or less.
[2017-01-10 13:50:42] enki0182 : in fact when it dips - reinforce strategically, or alternatively - slide your leverage higher (AT THE DIPS ONLY).
[2017-01-10 13:51:26] birdie numn : how does increasing leverage at dips help when one has a long?
[2017-01-10 13:54:09] Boontjie : birdie numn: it boosts your liquidation price, so you can liquidated faster
[2017-01-10 13:54:33] enki0182 : birdie - when an "entry point" is discovered - but you cannot get in - (coz already in market, or no sells to buy your position)... then change lev posn to maximise the rise.
[2017-01-10 13:55:10] enki0182 : (like now ; ))
[2017-01-10 13:55:17] birdie numn : enki0182: makes sense ty
[2017-01-10 13:55:46] enki0182 : np (newbie to 2016/17 rush msyelf)... but long time trader
[2017-01-10 13:57:03] enki0182 : inc btc.
[2017-01-10 13:57:13] enki0182 : gl hf
[2017-01-10 13:57:20] birdie numn : my liq price is at 890 doe :P came with 5eur to compare interface to others
[2017-01-10 13:57:41] birdie numn : had to get a bite of that juicy 50x margin
[2017-01-10 13:58:18] enki0182 : well stop leveraging like your mommas life hangs off it.
[2017-01-10 13:58:38] birdie numn : i know that that
[2017-01-10 13:58:54] enki0182 : go 5/10/ (increase to 25, when you know you at a good entry point).
[2017-01-10 13:58:55] birdie numn : its like a "when in paris" moment
[2017-01-10 13:59:49] birdie numn : but thank you for the kind advice
[2017-01-10 13:59:58] enki0182 : gl buddy - most people i know aint far off you... and the only ones that give me "good" info... are freemasons...
[2017-01-10 14:00:06] enki0182 : np mate
[2017-01-10 14:00:07] enki0182 : gl
[2017-01-10 14:00:13] enki0182 : like for all of us :)
[2017-01-10 14:00:19] enki0182 : in 4 years we all be smiling
[2017-01-10 14:00:27] birdie numn : yes
[2017-01-10 14:00:46] shiroe : The bull is winning! hurray!
[2017-01-10 14:02:55] enki0182 : ^
[2017-01-10 14:16:56] rapidtrades : can't believe ppl are still bullish
[2017-01-10 14:16:57] MikeHunt : dont be so sure
[2017-01-10 14:17:03] MikeHunt : awful big drop possible
[2017-01-10 14:17:29] MikeHunt : u know what dem whales are like, pumping and then slamming it down
[2017-01-10 14:17:55] rapidtrades : didn't u guys lose all ur monies longing on leverage?
[2017-01-10 14:21:22] enki0182 : wow - those with sell orders really trying to dump on bitmex - an exchange with minimal volume.... rofl..... through a "trollbox".... fyi - there is no stopping the chinese.
[2017-01-10 14:22:01] MikeHunt : enki0182: the mean is 5300-5600
[2017-01-10 14:22:05] MikeHunt : going by cny/usd
[2017-01-10 14:22:07] enki0182 : their currency is dying... and they needs "outs"... btc is one of those.
[2017-01-10 14:22:08] MikeHunt : usd/cny*
[2017-01-10 14:22:26] MikeHunt : enki0182: i agree but they are out of sink, bitcoin atm is overvalued slightly
[2017-01-10 14:22:35] MikeHunt : sync
[2017-01-10 14:22:57] alejandromasari : http://charts.stocktwits.com/production/original_70844999.?1483566210
[2017-01-10 14:22:59] MikeHunt : this typically happens after crashes, it lingers and then flat lines
[2017-01-10 14:23:15] MikeHunt : however we havent really had our 7k dead cat yet so maybe it will go up
[2017-01-10 14:23:54] enki0182 : i could show you what my charts rep... but im not goin to. all the best to you. I will only say that we have 2 more MASSIVE pump and dumps before btc becomes the "stable" it was always meant to be for hodlers.... and thats end feb early march...
[2017-01-10 14:24:21] enki0182 : hence no dead cat... or s a seemingly unambigious one.
[2017-01-10 14:24:22] enki0182 : gl
[2017-01-10 14:24:58] MikeHunt : enki0182: i understand why you want to keep ur charts secret but if you look at the past two large pump and dumps, it peaks, drops, dead cats, then petters off downwards
[2017-01-10 14:26:35] enki0182 : i HAVE looked... and my TA tells me you are right.... but my friend of 20 years has told me different..... and I trust him because of his position.
[2017-01-10 14:27:40] enki0182 : sorry to tell you - but he knows shit i couldnt imagine.
[2017-01-10 14:28:00] MikeHunt : enki0182: i think he gets that impression because it looks like an ascending triangle
[2017-01-10 14:28:06] MikeHunt : 2013-2017 pattern = tea cup
[2017-01-10 14:28:18] bingbongfly : why are there no trades in btc anymore.. just sideways come on volatility I need you back
[2017-01-10 14:28:20] bingbongfly : I need to make moneyz
[2017-01-10 14:28:28] MikeHunt : now we have a an ascending triangle forming the "handle"
[2017-01-10 14:28:43] MikeHunt : however i think we may retest $800 and then resume pump
[2017-01-10 14:28:55] MikeHunt : the move towards ATH at the moment seems too weak
[2017-01-10 14:28:58] bingbongfly : I'm betting on that rretest, need to fill longs
[2017-01-10 14:31:27] enki0182 : hes been a mason for as long as i know and he told me way back when at his brothers bday party that krudd gunna be ousted and julia going to be implemented to bring in an "Emissions trading scheme" for Aus... then 4 months later it Happened.... rofll..... so when he tells me about certain peaks and troths... I just stfu and do what he said.... (btw)... he is the most bullish bitcoin person i know.... he has told me some numbers i will not share.... but the trend for now is UP... sorry.
[2017-01-10 14:35:53] moo : Freefall!!!
[2017-01-10 14:36:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1200 @ 930.72
[2017-01-10 14:37:39] moo : Freefall to 650$
[2017-01-10 14:37:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5500 @ 900.78
[2017-01-10 14:38:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2100 @ 898.18
[2017-01-10 14:38:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 897.95
[2017-01-10 14:38:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200 @ 897.82
[2017-01-10 14:38:16] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2017-01-10 14:38:20] Boontjie : 2016-01-10 - [14:18] enki0182: i think it "may" "tap" 900 MAX... on finex.. then go bust trough the roof... then plateau for a while before the jan 12-18 HUGE RUSH. (second peak)... 2 of 3
[2017-01-10 14:38:33] Boontjie : Lets test it
[2017-01-10 14:39:56] moo : I am aifraid this is IT for bitcoin
[2017-01-10 14:39:59] moo : its finished
[2017-01-10 14:40:09] MikeHunt : enki0182: the trend is up but i mean temporarily
[2017-01-10 14:40:11] Boontjie : moo: its not finished, its overbought
[2017-01-10 14:40:18] MikeHunt : Boontjie: +1
[2017-01-10 14:40:35] MikeHunt : MFI showed that as clearly obvious yet people still worship the cult of bull
[2017-01-10 14:41:07] Dynamix : well RIP my account
[2017-01-10 14:41:14] Dynamix : anyone who wants to donate money to me feel free
[2017-01-10 14:41:32] Dynamix : Here is my BTC address
[2017-01-10 14:41:35] Dynamix : bye bye ;(
[2017-01-10 14:41:37] Dynamix : 3BMEXFVAZDPbWHoP6wDkpu6J3MxStXXijf
[2017-01-10 14:41:51] moo : Dynamix: should not gone long on a scam!
[2017-01-10 14:41:59] sleger : beggar
[2017-01-10 14:42:08] Dynamix : Myeah
[2017-01-10 14:42:14] Dynamix : not a begger sleger hehe
[2017-01-10 14:42:19] sleger : yes you are
[2017-01-10 14:42:19] Dynamix : Just donations for a good cause
[2017-01-10 14:42:23] sleger : beggar
[2017-01-10 14:42:25] sleger : bye
[2017-01-10 14:42:31] Dynamix : okay :)
[2017-01-10 14:42:49] Dynamix : Going to come back
[2017-01-10 14:43:01] Dynamix : like a ghost when the price is back up
[2017-01-10 14:45:28] MikeHunt : Dynamix: dont beg, learn from your mistakes
[2017-01-10 14:45:39] l3f : Dynamix: You're a degenerate gambler
[2017-01-10 14:45:45] l3f : Fix your trading
[2017-01-10 14:45:46] l3f : then come back
[2017-01-10 14:46:02] l3f : You bet all on black, you've lose
[2017-01-10 14:46:06] l3f : use martingale next time
[2017-01-10 14:46:09] l3f : rofl
[2017-01-10 14:46:25] enki0182 : iim not giving anyone my numbers - ..... goodnight.
[2017-01-10 14:46:36] FreeMoney : trading is for less than %1
[2017-01-10 14:46:40] enki0182 : see you on the other side
[2017-01-10 14:49:51] KyllingLolsson : Give me ur balls and i will trade them
[2017-01-10 14:50:56] KyllingLolsson : Promise i can make it Grow 100%
[2017-01-10 14:53:10] Dynamix : l3f: Who tf are you to call me degenerate ah ? You always nail your fucking trades ?
[2017-01-10 14:53:17] Dynamix : Fucking imbecile .
[2017-01-10 14:53:20] MikeHunt : Dynamix: dude....begging
[2017-01-10 14:53:23] l3f : Dynamix: haha
[2017-01-10 14:53:27] l3f : I control my loss
[2017-01-10 14:53:34] l3f : but I'm also a degenerate gambler
[2017-01-10 14:53:40] l3f : we aren't much different
[2017-01-10 14:54:17] l3f : I'm up 30+ btc though, that's the difference
[2017-01-10 14:54:30] MikeHunt : ive noticed when ppl gamble everything they then start blaming the site like moo etc.
[2017-01-10 14:54:40] l3f : MikeHunt: That guy on Huobi
[2017-01-10 14:54:53] l3f : was threating to knife them outside their office when he get rekt
[2017-01-10 14:54:58] anonymous123421 : People are dumb, when i lose my money I blame myself
[2017-01-10 14:55:35] MikeHunt : l3f: wow
[2017-01-10 14:55:48] MikeHunt : each trade i evaluate it and how i could do better
[2017-01-10 14:55:56] l3f : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/huobis-staff-threatened-over-exchange-trading-trickery/
[2017-01-10 14:57:29] l3f : I want to make it onto the leaderboard so bad ...
[2017-01-10 14:57:50] l3f : Tried so hard
[2017-01-10 14:58:49] enki0182 : ^didnt try hard enough obviously
[2017-01-10 14:59:48] l3f : came so far
[2017-01-10 14:59:52] l3f : in the end
[2017-01-10 14:59:56] l3f : it didn't even matter
[2017-01-10 15:00:28] abbey : sell it bears lower, i'm buyin!
[2017-01-10 15:01:54] MikeHunt : abbey: MFI suggests this is going down
[2017-01-10 15:02:09] l3f : I expect more chop
[2017-01-10 15:02:22] l3f : Consider this:
[2017-01-10 15:02:24] l3f : if we go up
[2017-01-10 15:02:31] l3f : bag holders will slow us down
[2017-01-10 15:02:33] moo : we wont go up
[2017-01-10 15:02:36] moo : its only down to hell
[2017-01-10 15:02:37] BTC-Noob : fuck, i went like 30 min to the shop, and now all is gone, rekt like fuck, whyyy
[2017-01-10 15:03:11] moo : if you go long you will wake up tomorrow with bitcoin being 200$ again
[2017-01-10 15:03:15] l3f : BTC-Noob: reduce leverage
[2017-01-10 15:03:17] moo : just from one dump
[2017-01-10 15:03:57] MikeHunt : i use high leverage sometimes but only with small amounts and in well calculated places
[2017-01-10 15:04:04] BTC-Noob : anyone wanna help me out smh 3BMEXQ5Sf9SN2XTUgG3ejHwKAMFCq2JPkd
[2017-01-10 15:04:14] MikeHunt : moar beggars?
[2017-01-10 15:04:16] abbey : MikeHunt: your suggestions here go usually wrong, i've noticed
[2017-01-10 15:04:43] l3f : BTC-Noob: You lost 2.2 btc? That's nothing
[2017-01-10 15:04:52] MikeHunt : abbey: i guess we'll see
[2017-01-10 15:05:08] MikeHunt : ive lost 1.6btc in a single trade (very dumb move)
[2017-01-10 15:05:16] l3f : Dynamix: had 0.12 lol
[2017-01-10 15:05:33] abbey : MikeHunt: yep, how low is your suggestion this time?
[2017-01-10 15:05:39] moo : just short 100x here to get money...
[2017-01-10 15:06:02] MikeHunt : abbey: this could go either way but MFI says overbought and its usually right
[2017-01-10 15:06:19] anonymous123421 : just don't put all of your money into one position, problem solved. If you do it's gambling.
[2017-01-10 15:06:38] abbey : MikeHunt: but how low it's gonna get?
[2017-01-10 15:06:46] MikeHunt : abbey: the usd/cny had a similar pattern and corrected then went up, this hasnt corrected yet
[2017-01-10 15:06:51] moo : 800$ is NOT going to hold
[2017-01-10 15:06:58] MikeHunt : abbey: $800 retest maybe, some say $775 then up
[2017-01-10 15:07:05] moo : bears are going to smash it
[2017-01-10 15:07:09] moo : in one swift swoop
[2017-01-10 15:07:13] moo : straight into 600's
[2017-01-10 15:07:32] BTC-Noob : l3f: 2.2 btc was all i had, what amount of btc do you considere "something" haha
[2017-01-10 15:07:34] MikeHunt : whales can prevent corrections so they can crush shorts/longs twice rather than once
[2017-01-10 15:08:03] l3f : BTC-Noob: there's people that maxed their credit cards and took payday loans
[2017-01-10 15:08:09] l3f : and got rekt
[2017-01-10 15:08:27] l3f : You'll recover from this
[2017-01-10 15:08:27] abbey : MikeHunt: ok, that's possible
[2017-01-10 15:08:28] anonymous123421 : damn
[2017-01-10 15:08:29] l3f : and do better next time
[2017-01-10 15:08:47] moo : because cultists feed them narrative that you can buy BTC, "dont look for 5 years" and become a millionere
[2017-01-10 15:09:21] moo : if you question btc becoming 1 mil per coin you are a beartroll FUDer with short position
[2017-01-10 15:09:47] MikeHunt : abbey: also if u look at the mean and compared to usd/cny, we are out of sync and overvalued
[2017-01-10 15:11:50] abbey : i expect this floors gonna hold
[2017-01-10 15:12:18] MikeHunt : abbey: if we retest $800 i think it will be very quick
[2017-01-10 15:13:01] BTC-Noob : omg somebody actually send me 0.11 btc, lol thanks whoever it was, i can continue my btc life a bit now haha
[2017-01-10 15:13:24] MikeHunt : who ever just enabled him to gamble even more away....well done...not
[2017-01-10 15:13:27] abbey : i agree, but i bon't think we'll go down there anymore
[2017-01-10 15:13:41] abbey : to mike
[2017-01-10 15:15:36] BTC-Noob : MikeHunt: i am not gambling here, i try to do the necessary research with respect to macro events en monetary policy of major economies influencing price movements major economies and developments in onshore and offshore yuan, with additional technical analysis. wtf are you calling me a gambler for
[2017-01-10 15:16:33] MikeHunt : BTC-Noob: my issue is charity in this case is subsidising failure
[2017-01-10 15:17:10] abbey : MikeHunt: bollinger bands suggest move soon, strong up
[2017-01-10 15:17:28] anonymous123421 : abbey: what timeframe on your chart?
[2017-01-10 15:17:55] BTC-Noob : dont call it charity, here is my address if you want to send some 3BMEXQ5Sf9SN2XTUgG3ejHwKAMFCq2JPkd
[2017-01-10 15:18:04] abbey : okc 1hour
[2017-01-10 15:18:23] abbey : at least
[2017-01-10 15:18:26] MikeHunt : abbey: problem with bollinger bands is they dont predict future movement very well wen their is price manipulation
[2017-01-10 15:19:06] abbey : same with most indicators @MikeHunt
[2017-01-10 15:19:27] MikeHunt : abbey: MFI shows actual money flow
[2017-01-10 15:21:19] abbey : i know, but that's not 100% sure indicator either
[2017-01-10 15:21:23] abbey : none is
[2017-01-10 15:21:29] abbey : MikeHunt:
[2017-01-10 15:22:42] abbey : we'll see how this works out, i'm saying up
[2017-01-10 15:22:49] anonymous123421 : BTC-Noob: https://blockchain.info/address/3BMEXQ5Sf9SN2XTUgG3ejHwKAMFCq2JPkd I don't see any transaction for .11 BTC? Did anyone actually send you anything?
[2017-01-10 15:23:23] shiroe : Up. 6/12hr MACD RSI going up :) stash more btc!
[2017-01-10 15:23:55] sleger : anonymous123421: the guy is a total fraud
[2017-01-10 15:24:14] anonymous123421 : sleger: Figures
[2017-01-10 15:24:39] abbey : shiroe: thats + too
[2017-01-10 15:25:37] MikeHunt : "Final Balance 2.21022949 BTC"
[2017-01-10 15:25:45] MikeHunt : beggar? no? fraudster? maybe?
[2017-01-10 15:28:23] anonymous123421 : MikeHunt: He was begging though, that makes him a beggar and a liar.
[2017-01-10 15:28:49] MikeHunt : anonymous123421: yeh
[2017-01-10 15:28:57] l3f : sleger: I think the fact that retail investors have finally been cleaned
[2017-01-10 15:28:59] l3f : is a bearish sign
[2017-01-10 15:29:24] sleger : who said retail have been "cleaned" ?
[2017-01-10 15:29:35] MikeHunt : ive noticed the china pumps are weak/none existant at the moment
[2017-01-10 15:29:41] l3f : well let's just say that judging by the amount of people cleaned so far
[2017-01-10 15:30:49] anonymous123421 : l3f: You can count me among them, I'm here to try and learn how to avoid bad trades.
[2017-01-10 15:33:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1590 @ 928.37
[2017-01-10 15:33:33] MikeHunt : also on bitcoinity the buying rate is negative
[2017-01-10 15:33:34] rapidtrades : guise?
[2017-01-10 15:34:02] rapidtrades : sleger the last bull standing
[2017-01-10 15:34:08] MikeHunt : if china really aint interested anymore then its sharp downard imo
[2017-01-10 15:34:09] rapidtrades : buying BTC, buying ETH
[2017-01-10 15:35:12] FreeMoney : ive watched so many noobs fleeced past few days
[2017-01-10 15:35:36] l3f : rapidtrades: I'm still bullish
[2017-01-10 15:35:38] FreeMoney : they need a week/fortnight until pay check
[2017-01-10 15:35:40] rapidtrades : and how exactly did u 'watch' that?
[2017-01-10 15:36:15] l3f : rapidtrades: If only they heeded your warning
[2017-01-10 15:36:31] FreeMoney : rapidtrades: come on, even you can figure it out. New faces, new tears and new money we all took
[2017-01-10 15:37:10] l3f : FreeMoney: It's true
[2017-01-10 15:37:15] l3f : I was here ~800s
[2017-01-10 15:37:17] l3f : rapidtrades my bro
[2017-01-10 15:37:21] l3f : we were best friends
[2017-01-10 15:37:38] l3f : So many new faces once it was pushing to 1k
[2017-01-10 15:37:45] l3f : and now these are the faces of rekt
[2017-01-10 15:37:48] FreeMoney : and now they all fucked
[2017-01-10 15:38:03] l3f : I taught them to buy and hold
[2017-01-10 15:38:09] FreeMoney : nice
[2017-01-10 15:38:21] l3f : I taught them to buy the dips
[2017-01-10 15:38:28] FreeMoney : add collateral to bleeding margin?
[2017-01-10 15:38:42] l3f : I closed my long on them
[2017-01-10 15:38:55] FreeMoney : to "double down" your average buy?
[2017-01-10 15:38:58] l3f : I saw them liquidate at my closing price
[2017-01-10 15:39:03] l3f : during the final dump
[2017-01-10 15:39:05] l3f : I killed them
[2017-01-10 15:39:11] l3f : even the younglings
[2017-01-10 15:39:14] FreeMoney : thats so erotic
[2017-01-10 15:39:33] FreeMoney : lol wtf I posted that before you wrote that shit
[2017-01-10 15:40:00] rapidtrades : FreeMoney: don't lie
[2017-01-10 15:40:06] rapidtrades : ....sicko
[2017-01-10 15:40:32] l3f : rapidtrades: up or down?
[2017-01-10 15:40:37] l3f : rapidbears
[2017-01-10 15:41:09] FreeMoney : im not touching it until it stages higher so I can short on the fakeout or lower in the blood
[2017-01-10 15:41:38] l3f : My analysis is that there's many people trapped up high
[2017-01-10 15:41:43] l3f : so even if we go up we won't go back to 1k
[2017-01-10 15:41:54] FreeMoney : agreed
[2017-01-10 15:42:01] FreeMoney : not until end of year
[2017-01-10 15:42:10] l3f : as in even if we push they'll try and give us their bags
[2017-01-10 15:53:42] MikeHunt : l3f: so you purposefully gave bad advice?
[2017-01-10 15:56:40] shiroe : Stash! macd rsi going up, exit at 7k okc in a week :P
[2017-01-10 16:03:47] l3f : MikeHunt: No I was buying and holding as well
[2017-01-10 16:04:13] l3f : But when it rises 10% in a single day you know it's the god damn top
[2017-01-10 16:05:10] l3f : I wasn't that smart though
[2017-01-10 16:05:13] l3f : I was just stopped out
[2017-01-10 16:05:24] MikeHunt : l3f: you got the last lifeboat out then?
[2017-01-10 16:05:24] l3f : I thought it might go 10k first
[2017-01-10 16:05:49] l3f : MikeHunt: I did a manual stop loss
[2017-01-10 16:06:08] MikeHunt : i was dumb, shorted 1100 and then re-bought way too early and then accidently shorted the bottom of the drop lol
[2017-01-10 16:06:12] l3f : I'd wake up, eat watch the charts all day
[2017-01-10 16:06:19] l3f : the sleep for 6 hours
[2017-01-10 16:06:22] l3f : and repeat
[2017-01-10 16:06:48] l3f : Because shit was going cray cray
[2017-01-10 16:07:02] l3f : When people like aetholios warn you to get out you know you're on the edge
[2017-01-10 16:07:06] l3f : because all the rational people are leaving
[2017-01-10 16:07:32] MikeHunt : l3f: looking back at the MFI data and usd/cny it should have been obvious
[2017-01-10 16:07:48] l3f : MikeHunt: It could have easily went higher
[2017-01-10 16:07:55] MikeHunt : l3f: cny appreciated, whales pumped it up and nailed it down
[2017-01-10 16:08:03] l3f : no that's an excuse
[2017-01-10 16:08:05] l3f : after it dumped
[2017-01-10 16:08:11] sleger : aethlios is not a genious
[2017-01-10 16:08:20] l3f : we had the same charts
[2017-01-10 16:08:23] sleger : he is still waiting with his bids at 710
[2017-01-10 16:08:26] MikeHunt : l3f: cny appreciated before it dumped
[2017-01-10 16:08:36] l3f : MikeHunt: it still pushed towards 8888.88
[2017-01-10 16:08:39] l3f : it didn't care
[2017-01-10 16:09:05] l3f : It would have pushed past if the whales didn't play dump chicken and one of them chickened out first
[2017-01-10 16:09:16] MikeHunt : l3f: oh yeh i agree with that
[2017-01-10 16:09:25] MikeHunt : could have gone very high with china behind it
[2017-01-10 16:09:26] l3f : sleger: it's true because he missed out most of the gains
[2017-01-10 16:09:36] l3f : those 10% days were the meatiest days alive
[2017-01-10 16:09:45] l3f : but he has a lower risk tolerance
[2017-01-10 16:09:57] sleger : nah he's just too greedy
[2017-01-10 16:10:12] l3f : sleger: this can't be bottom
[2017-01-10 16:10:15] sleger : if there is a large pump he will just miss out and then wait with bids too low forever
[2017-01-10 16:10:24] sleger : it might be, or might not
[2017-01-10 16:10:49] sleger : i just think it doesnt make sense to not have bought some at 900, 850, 800 .... and just wait at 710
[2017-01-10 16:10:51] l3f : You're way smart to realise how many bagholders are up there
[2017-01-10 16:10:52] sleger : greed
[2017-01-10 16:11:01] l3f : He bought at 820
[2017-01-10 16:11:12] sleger : i dont believe that
[2017-01-10 16:11:17] sleger : he said he had his bids at 710
[2017-01-10 16:11:24] l3f : he also said 820 might be bottom
[2017-01-10 16:11:27] sleger : im sure after it rebounded to 900 he said that...
[2017-01-10 16:11:33] sleger : no he said he had his bids at 710
[2017-01-10 16:11:35] l3f : haha
[2017-01-10 16:11:41] l3f : I said my bids were at 770
[2017-01-10 16:11:45] l3f : but i'm a greedy fuck as well
[2017-01-10 16:11:53] sleger : maybe he gives different pictures and then 3 months later reminds everyone how he made "the" right call
[2017-01-10 16:12:14] l3f : everyone plays by their own rules
[2017-01-10 16:12:51] l3f : The way I see it
[2017-01-10 16:12:54] sleger : sure and i do somewhat the same, i just think its not smart to go 100% cash then say im buying everything back at 710
[2017-01-10 16:12:55] l3f : if it goes down then it hits my bids
[2017-01-10 16:12:59] sleger : i do it more progressively
[2017-01-10 16:13:00] MikeHunt : if a lot of people are still up there wouldn't the whales want to nose dive this and crush them?
[2017-01-10 16:13:19] l3f : MikeHunt: well he might reverse psych us
[2017-01-10 16:13:41] l3f : sideways can be used as entry or exit
[2017-01-10 16:13:47] l3f : depending on his intention
[2017-01-10 16:14:01] l3f : And that dump can be used as a shakeout
[2017-01-10 16:14:26] l3f : If it goes up from here and this is bottom, then I'm still net long (all in btc)
[2017-01-10 16:14:30] l3f : if it goes down it hits my bids
[2017-01-10 16:14:32] l3f : that's my play
[2017-01-10 16:14:33] rapidtrades : the Greek has been most accurate out of ppl that post heir calls here
[2017-01-10 16:14:55] sleger : rapidtrades: is he still waiting with bids at 710 ?
[2017-01-10 16:14:59] MikeHunt : l3f: seems hard to take any real position at the moment
[2017-01-10 16:15:02] l3f : rapidtrades: what's your call rapidtrades?
[2017-01-10 16:15:07] l3f : MikeHunt: might be exactly what he wants
[2017-01-10 16:15:39] l3f : rapidtrades: I want to hear what you have to say, when you aren't trolling for once
[2017-01-10 16:16:16] rapidtrades : im net flat...almost
[2017-01-10 16:16:39] l3f : Fontas thinks it's all over
[2017-01-10 16:16:42] l3f : and we'll see 400s again
[2017-01-10 16:16:54] MikeHunt : l3f: i figured it might be them
[2017-01-10 16:19:00] MikeHunt : i suspect they will try to accumulate longs now and then crush them
[2017-01-10 16:20:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 2 @ 0.014945
[2017-01-10 16:20:54] l3f : sleger: where do you think the whale entered?
[2017-01-10 16:21:00] l3f : 400s?
[2017-01-10 16:21:15] sleger : why you guys assume there is "the whale"
[2017-01-10 16:21:43] MikeHunt : sleger: plural
[2017-01-10 16:22:08] sleger : next you're gonna say maybe it's a group of wealthy people who own a large bunch of bitcoins each and meet every 6 months in luxury hotels in big cities and decide what the next move is with respect to manipulating the price, and then have decadent parties ... ;)
[2017-01-10 16:22:46] l3f : sleger: accurately describes your life style
[2017-01-10 16:23:14] MikeHunt : l3f: lol
[2017-01-10 16:23:47] MikeHunt : maybe sledger is a part of fontas, here to keep tabs on us
[2017-01-10 16:23:59] sleger : i'm not so much into the decadent part
[2017-01-10 16:24:04] sleger : what is fontas... ?
[2017-01-10 16:24:09] sleger : never heard :p
[2017-01-10 16:24:27] MikeHunt : look em up on twitter, private PnD group apparently
[2017-01-10 16:24:30] MikeHunt : 2BTC entry fee
[2017-01-10 16:24:45] l3f : fontas is really a joke as a pumper
[2017-01-10 16:24:50] l3f : he's better known for being a big btc holder
[2017-01-10 16:25:04] MikeHunt : i suspect the chinese are the real whales
[2017-01-10 16:25:09] MikeHunt : or have the biggest
[2017-01-10 16:28:28] sleger : i dont have a short term view on bitcoin, could really do anything short term, i am bullish long term
[2017-01-10 16:28:44] sleger : i am more bulllish short term on eth and etc, also some xmr
[2017-01-10 16:29:59] MikeHunt : sleger: ltc?
[2017-01-10 16:30:29] sleger : stopped paying attention to ltc, no position besides the 2600 i discovered on my 0kc futures account recently
[2017-01-10 16:30:48] Alignment : i messed up and my graph is full of indicators how do i remove them? i can't read the charts anymore
[2017-01-10 16:31:05] Alignment : QUICK !
[2017-01-10 16:31:09] Alignment : :D
[2017-01-10 16:31:20] sleger : hold power button for 5 seconds
[2017-01-10 16:31:32] sleger : they will go away
[2017-01-10 16:31:38] MikeHunt : Alignment: right click on indicator then remove
[2017-01-10 16:31:50] Alignment : thx mike
[2017-01-10 16:31:52] MikeHunt : Alignment: wait until finger icon shows up before rightclicking
[2017-01-10 16:31:55] MikeHunt : Alignment: np
[2017-01-10 16:32:35] Alignment : anyone else went short xmr above 150?
[2017-01-10 16:33:18] MikeHunt : Alignment: xmr price bellow market cap
[2017-01-10 16:33:22] MikeHunt : might not be a good idea shorting
[2017-01-10 16:34:18] Alignment : it went up a lot it should come down at 100 at one point
[2017-01-10 16:34:31] Alignment : would be better if we had 30d future tho
[2017-01-10 16:34:42] Alignment : what can i do with settlement in 2d
[2017-01-10 16:35:45] sleger : pay fees
[2017-01-10 16:36:02] sleger : i've been begging for 2 months for 30d on alts
[2017-01-10 16:37:27] Alignment : sleger when you talk about btc whales, how many coins do these whales have?
[2017-01-10 16:38:13] l3f : Alignment: 300 btc+ walls
[2017-01-10 16:38:57] sleger : using leverage that's nothing
[2017-01-10 16:38:58] Alignment : L3f you can't move the market with 300btc
[2017-01-10 16:39:39] l3f : enough to move altcoins
[2017-01-10 16:39:48] l3f : not btc obviously
[2017-01-10 16:39:51] Alignment : and i think we havent seen the bottom yet personally i got greedy and didnt dump the top and now i can't wait we go back to 1K+ so i can dump it
[2017-01-10 16:40:04] Alignment : im sure many think that way too
[2017-01-10 16:40:17] l3f : the more I stay in this troll box the more I'm convinced we aren't going back up there
[2017-01-10 16:40:47] Alignment : l3f well i dont know there is accumulation going on right no
[2017-01-10 16:40:48] Alignment : w
[2017-01-10 16:41:19] l3f : then it must be life support
[2017-01-10 16:41:36] l3f : which means dump incoming and the knives will hurt the hand
[2017-01-10 16:41:54] Alignment : we are still at 900 there was no blood
[2017-01-10 16:42:03] l3f : 900 is life support
[2017-01-10 16:42:07] l3f : if you don't think reaccumulation
[2017-01-10 16:42:25] Alignment : what does that mean life support in that context
[2017-01-10 16:42:41] l3f : whale tested 6600 and it was too unstable
[2017-01-10 16:42:44] l3f : kept getting dumped on
[2017-01-10 16:43:01] l3f : whale's holding price at 6300
[2017-01-10 16:43:04] l3f : to exit slowly
[2017-01-10 16:43:15] l3f : without bears shitting on him too hard
[2017-01-10 16:43:48] Alignment : makes sense
[2017-01-10 16:44:07] l3f : that's life support
[2017-01-10 16:44:13] Alignment : noticed how chinese alts didnt move too yet? (a part from ltc just recently)
[2017-01-10 16:44:39] Alignment : western alts : xmr and eth and etc rallied during btc rise as if the west was preparing for a double top already
[2017-01-10 16:44:54] Alignment : chinese alts lost 50%+ of their value and are on standby
[2017-01-10 16:45:05] l3f : alts pumped is a sign the end is hear
[2017-01-10 16:45:07] l3f : near*
[2017-01-10 16:45:11] l3f : people hedging with alts
[2017-01-10 16:45:26] Alignment : yeah thats what i thought but i got tricked because i thought chinese was leading but they are jus tfollowing USD prices
[2017-01-10 16:46:13] Alignment : i thouht china lead and chinese alts dont rally so china aim to go past towards ATH
[2017-01-10 16:46:55] Alignment : but in the end its usd prices that matters
[2017-01-10 16:47:29] Alignment : so we had west preparing for a double top and hedging VERY EARLY with alts and they made +100% on them in USD
[2017-01-10 16:48:06] Alignment : ETH UP 64% xmr UP 69% etc up 60%
[2017-01-10 16:49:00] Alignment : what does that mean for whats next is the question
[2017-01-10 16:49:01] bingbongfly : wow eth look
[2017-01-10 16:49:28] Alignment : bingbongfly: what?
[2017-01-10 16:49:37] bingbongfly : Alignment: nvm wrong chat sorry
[2017-01-10 16:49:59] sleger : ah cause in another chat it did move ?
[2017-01-10 16:50:02] Alignment : l3f: what do you see next ive bids at 666€ personally
[2017-01-10 16:50:30] l3f : Alignment: I see down
[2017-01-10 16:50:34] l3f : but possible up move first
[2017-01-10 16:50:51] bingbongfly : sleger: no it's out of context ;o
[2017-01-10 16:50:53] l3f : Long term this may go back to 400 again
[2017-01-10 16:51:09] Alignment : i dont see 400 we are just drawing the handle to the cup that wil lbring us to the moon
[2017-01-10 16:52:08] Alignment : last handle bottom post bfx hack was -40% from top
[2017-01-10 16:52:22] Alignment : 1140*0,6 = 684
[2017-01-10 16:52:44] Alignment : bids at 710 are quite smart
[2017-01-10 16:53:01] MikeHunt : Alignment: the cup is a result of PnD's
[2017-01-10 16:53:05] MikeHunt : im not sure how reliable it is
[2017-01-10 16:53:26] MikeHunt : (paranoid mode) for all we know thats the plan, get everyone into perma bull mode and then rape the lot of them
[2017-01-10 16:53:35] Alignment : i got in permabull
[2017-01-10 16:53:53] Alignment : completely forgot about dumping in the 1100 i was aiming at 1800 lmao
[2017-01-10 16:54:13] MikeHunt : entropy always seems to be the victor in the end
[2017-01-10 16:56:12] Alignment : btw, ETH broke the resistance at 120 a few days ago, so its like whales are still hedging
[2017-01-10 16:57:00] Alignment : and LTC started to pump so could be more hedging from west and china
[2017-01-10 16:57:09] Alignment : this all could mean further down for btc
[2017-01-10 16:57:41] rullwull : LTC follows BTC, other alts move different directions
[2017-01-10 16:58:00] MikeHunt : LTC is fucked regardless imo
[2017-01-10 16:58:34] rullwull : LTC is my favourite alt)))
[2017-01-10 16:58:39] l3f : ltc is generally a mess
[2017-01-10 17:00:20] Alignment : athlios thinks whales are accumulating below 1K before they restart the FOMO, i dont see how this scenario fits with bids at 710
[2017-01-10 17:00:44] rullwull : in 2013 i had 25K LTC long at 4$ in bitfinex and closed it at 25$
[2017-01-10 17:01:49] rullwull : also LTC made my 2015 summer, had a huge LTC long in okc futures
[2017-01-10 17:02:01] Alignment : and now are you long rullwull
[2017-01-10 17:02:30] rullwull : no i don't touch it
[2017-01-10 17:02:40] Alignment : what do you touch
[2017-01-10 17:02:46] rullwull : only btc
[2017-01-10 17:02:59] rullwull : f.ck alts
[2017-01-10 17:03:19] Alignment : no money to be made in btc compared to alts
[2017-01-10 17:03:47] rullwull : are you serious?
[2017-01-10 17:04:00] rullwull : look at the last few months chart)
[2017-01-10 17:04:56] Alignment : look at monero graph
[2017-01-10 17:07:38] rullwull : all these alts for kids from polo, be careful, its pure pump and dump schemes
[2017-01-10 17:08:53] MikeHunt : rullwull: +1
[2017-01-10 17:25:11] Alignment : well ltc going up, if you wanna make money gents i suggest you look at alts, not much going on for btc right now until we see some blood
[2017-01-10 17:32:02] kbrn : what kind of software you guys use to keep track of your trades with bitmex .csv?
[2017-01-10 17:32:34] MikeHunt : kbrn: yeh u can download it in ur trade history
[2017-01-10 17:33:09] QuantFocus : ltc and ripple both about to explode
[2017-01-10 17:33:37] kbrn : yes i know but theres something that bothers me: last trades up in the list
[2017-01-10 17:35:08] Alignment : QuantFocus: ripple too?
[2017-01-10 17:35:53] Alignment : can't get myself to buy that shit tho
[2017-01-10 17:36:28] Alignment : its a bad sign for btc too if more alts start to rally it mean more hedging from btc thus more downside for btc
[2017-01-10 17:36:38] Alignment : 700s incoming
[2017-01-10 17:37:48] QuantFocus : not a hedge in this case though
[2017-01-10 17:38:11] QuantFocus : Ripple has been slowly and quietly developing their corporate relationships
[2017-01-10 17:38:14] QuantFocus : then this: http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-launch-new-ripple-trading-pairs/
[2017-01-10 17:38:55] QuantFocus : fiat pairs on stamp
[2017-01-10 17:39:37] Alignment : it was already possible to buy it no?
[2017-01-10 17:40:47] QuantFocus : not through any of the major exchanges via fiat, as far as i'm aware
[2017-01-10 17:55:33] Alignment : QuantFocus: true, u buying some?
[2017-01-10 18:05:22] WhyBit : what does bitmex take in fees?
[2017-01-10 18:08:37] MikeHunt : WhyBit: generally 0.15% both ways
[2017-01-10 18:08:48] MikeHunt : 0.15% total*
[2017-01-10 18:09:30] WhyBit : ok, thank you.
[2017-01-10 18:10:09] WhyBit : Does anyone think it will reach 910 next 12 hours?
[2017-01-10 18:17:19] MikeHunt : no idea
[2017-01-10 18:17:32] MikeHunt : this thing looks like it might drop thou
[2017-01-10 18:17:35] MikeHunt : MFI is dropping
[2017-01-10 18:21:14] WhyBit : MikeHunt: I am a beginner here. What is MFI and where can I see it
[2017-01-10 18:23:27] MikeHunt : WhyBit: have you ever traded bitcoin before?
[2017-01-10 18:24:06] WhyBit : MikeHunt: nope. Just bought 1 for trying
[2017-01-10 18:24:33] MikeHunt : WhyBit: i suggest doing paper trades or use test account before spending real money
[2017-01-10 18:24:58] MikeHunt : and learning some stock trading strategies
[2017-01-10 18:25:05] QuantFocus : WhyBit: just go 100x on your first trade
[2017-01-10 18:25:08] QuantFocus : you can do it
[2017-01-10 18:25:11] QuantFocus : retire tomorrow
[2017-01-10 18:25:12] MikeHunt : QuantFocus: lol
[2017-01-10 18:25:41] QuantFocus : why work when you can make a killing day trading? stock traders hate him!
[2017-01-10 18:25:56] WhyBit : MikeHunt: I should yes.
[2017-01-10 18:26:11] QuantFocus : Alignment: i own some, but i added to my position
[2017-01-10 18:26:11] MikeHunt : WhyBit: but will you?
[2017-01-10 18:26:39] WhyBit : MikeHunt: No, I can afford to lose 1 bitcoin learning
[2017-01-10 18:26:49] Alignment : if u go x100 @ 900 and it goes to 899 are u rekt?
[2017-01-10 18:27:23] MikeHunt : Alignment: i think u have a few $ headroom but not much
[2017-01-10 18:27:39] Alignment : im quite good at guessing bottoms
[2017-01-10 18:27:39] WhyBit : I made 5 trades with 10x today and close when i reach 4-5%