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[2017-01-10 02:28:07] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it can. It needs to be sent messages repeatedly sometimes.
[2017-01-10 02:31:14] Dynamix : Is there any point longing btc now ?
[2017-01-10 02:33:51] Dynamix : BitMEX_Sam: how can i reset my whole chart ? Its full of indicators on mobile
[2017-01-10 02:34:10] Dynamix : can you tell someone at bitmex to fix it if not ?
[2017-01-10 02:34:33] FreeMoney : BitMEX_Sam: hey can I ask you a question about the fees?
[2017-01-10 02:35:09] Dynamix : Seems like hes not around
[2017-01-10 02:37:29] FreeMoney : If I trade 10million in the week, what could the person who referred me make?
[2017-01-10 02:41:38] KingTuna : itsyourboy: cover your short big boy ;)
[2017-01-10 02:41:49] KingTuna : LTC firin gon all cylinders
[2017-01-10 02:41:54] KingTuna : firing*
[2017-01-10 02:42:14] KingTuna : okcoin LTC on a roll
[2017-01-10 02:43:43] micmix : FreeMoney: 10m USD assuming always taker is $7500 in fees, referrer gets 20% of that on highest tier
[2017-01-10 02:49:26] evilminer : nice price movement. :-/
[2017-01-10 02:51:02] BitMEX_Greg : FreeMoney: Please take a look at: https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates#Affiliate-Payout-Structure
[2017-01-10 02:55:17] Dynamix : FreeMoney: You want to become my referral and I give you 50% ? :)
[2017-01-10 02:55:58] FreeMoney : Dynamix: nah I asked him If I could do myself and he siad no so ill just use my wife
[2017-01-10 02:56:24] Dynamix : FreeMoney: lol fair enough
[2017-01-10 02:56:38] Dynamix : wanted a few extra bucks there ?
[2017-01-10 03:01:46] XXXX : No sell orders after 0.0057 on LTC.?
[2017-01-10 03:08:18] Dtrade16 : Thank god god my money off of bitfinex
[2017-01-10 03:08:29] rowrow : something happen today?
[2017-01-10 03:08:42] Dtrade16 : Damn ltc ripped up
[2017-01-10 03:08:55] KingTuna : Dtrade16: ;)
[2017-01-10 03:10:05] Dtrade16 : 100k buy order on finex for LTC lol
[2017-01-10 03:10:08] Dtrade16 : at $4
[2017-01-10 03:10:21] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: You gotta dog in this fight? Lol
[2017-01-10 03:10:52] KingTuna : Dtrade16: haha we will see how this goes
[2017-01-10 03:11:16] FreeMoney : funding funding funding
[2017-01-10 03:12:00] Dtrade16 : BTC rally over back to 900
[2017-01-10 03:12:23] Dtrade16 : Where should I trade guys?
[2017-01-10 03:12:52] Dtrade16 : Any reputable exchanges that allow tether and leverage?
[2017-01-10 03:13:51] Dtrade16 : I'm not holding my money in btc
[2017-01-10 03:13:56] Dtrade16 : Craziest thing ever
[2017-01-10 03:14:46] XXXX : 7 day contracts settle on friday 12 UTC. when does the new 7 Day contract begin trading?
[2017-01-10 03:15:00] rowrow : aside from here, not too many options for leverage - maybe btce
[2017-01-10 03:15:31] XBT_IHCT : XXXX: right after settlement
[2017-01-10 03:15:49] XBT_IHCT : of the same instrument
[2017-01-10 03:16:28] XXXX : XBT_IHCT: thanks. It is annoying to be on desk at the exact time and reopen the same trade at slightly disadvantaged price point.
[2017-01-10 03:18:03] XBT_IHCT : XXXX: that's just the nature of the beast :)
[2017-01-10 03:18:12] Dynamix : Are we going down or nah ?
[2017-01-10 03:18:25] rowrow : could be, could be not
[2017-01-10 03:18:42] rowrow : gotta ask china
[2017-01-10 03:18:52] Dynamix : Not an answer
[2017-01-10 03:18:56] Dynamix : haha
[2017-01-10 03:18:58] Dynamix : yh yh
[2017-01-10 03:19:42] XBT_IHCT : Dynamix: I expect so but I'm really not sure, so I opened a really small hedged trade, with a really small short bias
[2017-01-10 03:20:02] Dynamix : Right
[2017-01-10 03:20:06] Dynamix : aight
[2017-01-10 03:25:41] Dynamix : Time to go down
[2017-01-10 03:28:54] Dtrade16 : rowrow: is btce legit though?
[2017-01-10 03:28:59] Dtrade16 : Don't they go down a lot?
[2017-01-10 03:31:58] rowrow : i haven't looked much into it recently, just know they have been around for a long time without any major negative events - which is more than most bitcoin exchanges can say
[2017-01-10 03:32:45] rowrow : there aren't really any perfect choices, if you want liquidity probably bitfinex is one of the best but not exactly a fan of them either
[2017-01-10 03:34:59] rowrow : though it's possible they've gotten hacked without disclosing it i suppose - if you want the least likely exchange to go belly up it's probably coinbase/gdax, don't think they offer leverage though
[2017-01-10 03:35:26] Dynamix : Btc falling hard
[2017-01-10 03:35:29] Dynamix : hehe
[2017-01-10 03:36:45] Crunkmeister : why am I unable to see my own orders in the order book? they get filled properly
[2017-01-10 03:36:48] Crunkmeister : but I don't see them in my UI
[2017-01-10 03:38:03] odieoh : Your own should be in bolded font
[2017-01-10 03:38:13] Crunkmeister : it was, earlier today, now it's gone entirely
[2017-01-10 03:38:31] odieoh : Well if they got filled they disappear :)
[2017-01-10 03:38:43] Crunkmeister : I understand, I'm talking new orders
[2017-01-10 03:40:45] Dtrade16 : rowrow: Thanks!
[2017-01-10 03:41:43] Dtrade16 : I love bitfinex but I just pulled my money off of there
[2017-01-10 03:41:57] Dtrade16 : Too risky now
[2017-01-10 03:42:20] Dtrade16 : Anyone short zec here?
[2017-01-10 03:44:24] rapidtrades : lol no
[2017-01-10 03:44:40] Dynamix : Well bitfinex how much lvg ?
[2017-01-10 03:44:44] l3f : Dtrade16: don't short zec
[2017-01-10 03:44:45] Dynamix : are there buys?
[2017-01-10 03:44:56] l3f : rapidtrades: you still hodling zec?
[2017-01-10 03:45:06] l3f : it's looks like it's gonna blow
[2017-01-10 03:45:16] Dtrade16 : l3f: Why?
[2017-01-10 03:45:48] Dtrade16 : I'd be stupid not too
[2017-01-10 03:46:38] Dynamix : Dump is not over
[2017-01-10 03:46:51] Dynamix : china moving down bitmex same place
[2017-01-10 03:47:37] Dynamix : Last trade was at 3:39
[2017-01-10 03:47:48] MikeHunt : how do you the maker fee instead of the taker fee?
[2017-01-10 03:48:03] ayy_lmao : limit orders
[2017-01-10 03:48:20] MikeHunt : ayy_lmao: ahh thanks
[2017-01-10 03:48:27] ayy_lmao : if you fill someones orders, you get a taker fee
[2017-01-10 03:48:32] ayy_lmao : if someone fills your, you get maker
[2017-01-10 03:48:48] MikeHunt : ayy_lmao: do you generally use limit orders?
[2017-01-10 03:48:53] ayy_lmao : but if you use a limit to buy the lowest bid, you still get taker
[2017-01-10 03:49:06] ayy_lmao : i switch
[2017-01-10 03:49:23] ayy_lmao : depends if i think i can get filled in the time i want to be filled
[2017-01-10 03:50:58] MikeHunt : ayy_lmao: ahh tanks
[2017-01-10 03:51:51] FreeMoney : is it possible for some people to make more money on the funding than their position P/L?
[2017-01-10 03:53:02] Guest56485 : hey! :)
[2017-01-10 03:54:28] Dtrade16 : l3f: You didn't say why not
[2017-01-10 04:06:55] ayy_lmao : bearstamp
[2017-01-10 04:08:26] anonymous123421 : So much for 900+
[2017-01-10 04:08:45] anonymous123421 : Hmm might recover
[2017-01-10 04:12:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 29500 @ 6544.0
[2017-01-10 04:24:25] XBT_IHCT : Crunkmeister: you still here?
[2017-01-10 04:24:36] Crunkmeister : YES
[2017-01-10 04:24:50] Crunkmeister : whats up?
[2017-01-10 04:25:03] XBT_IHCT : did you work out what was going on?
[2017-01-10 04:25:06] Crunkmeister : nope
[2017-01-10 04:25:24] Crunkmeister : it's pretty annoying, I haven't cleared my cache, also my carts seemed to stop working, I'll try clearing my cache later
[2017-01-10 04:25:34] Crunkmeister : chart*
[2017-01-10 04:26:07] XBT_IHCT : you haven't accidentally clicked on the "hidden" box have you by any chance?
[2017-01-10 04:27:02] XBT_IHCT : Also if your chart is messing up, it could be that your computer's time and date is wrong, I would have a look at that too.
[2017-01-10 04:31:50] aethlios : hello traders! I see ltc up? any news??
[2017-01-10 04:33:05] XBT_IHCT : aethlios: hey man, how's it going?
[2017-01-10 04:33:25] XXXX : aethlios: segwit activation in few weeks. before bitcoin.
[2017-01-10 04:33:31] aethlios : XBT_IHCT: taking some rest and sleep from previous days.
[2017-01-10 04:34:04] aethlios : XXXX: nice,
[2017-01-10 04:35:09] XBT_IHCT : aethlios: I know exactly what you mean, I slept for 15 hours myself! lol
[2017-01-10 04:36:55] Crunkmeister : XBT_IHCT Yes I'm sure it's not hidden, I thought of that
[2017-01-10 04:37:16] Crunkmeister : I'll complain if after troubleshooting, I was just wondering if there was some hidden UI option I hit
[2017-01-10 04:37:37] Crunkmeister : if I still have problems after*
[2017-01-10 04:39:24] aethlios : 4 daily candles with small bodies, bulls and bears fight with no winner yet, will bears give bulls a chance to get in the bull market lower, or 807 was the low for spot?? let's see....
[2017-01-10 04:40:24] MikeHunt : aethlios: how long do you think it will be until this is decided, bull or bear market? my guess is noon tomorrow
[2017-01-10 04:40:33] MikeHunt : (today)
[2017-01-10 04:40:43] MikeHunt : *
[2017-01-10 04:43:04] aethlios : MikeHunt: we are in a bull market since summer 2015, a justification was new ATH in euro and yuan, and 7 usd almost for new ATH for usd. the question is if the correction was enough, we have the large triangle previous support with top 775, so 806 low touched that and at most i see a weak retest of 800.
[2017-01-10 04:46:33] MikeHunt : aethlios: got a lot of btc lying around and wodnering how to protect it against a potential drop
[2017-01-10 04:46:40] MikeHunt : whether to escape to USD or not :/
[2017-01-10 04:46:48] MikeHunt : leave a little here to play with
[2017-01-10 04:48:54] aethlios : MikeHunt: you can keep btc in wallet safe away from exchange and can hedge here either with swap or quarterly. at the top quarterly had 13% return for 3 months, if have usd in a bank you don't receive interest.
[2017-01-10 04:49:37] aethlios : create a synthetic usd deposit.
[2017-01-10 04:50:42] MikeHunt : aethlios: i suppose i could just short
[2017-01-10 04:51:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 359 @ 0.003191
[2017-01-10 04:52:39] aethlios : MikeHunt: this is what i mean, if you short your btc you create a usd deposit. if short march reveive a fixed 3 month deposit rate, if short swap you receive an 8hour variable rate. because btc appreciates against dollar, you long tern earn a positive interest.
[2017-01-10 04:52:48] ayy_lmao : bearstamp totally disconnected
[2017-01-10 04:52:58] aethlios : it could be 25% per year.
[2017-01-10 04:53:07] QuantFocus : aethlios: :+1:
[2017-01-10 04:53:31] QuantFocus : typical premium is 5-8%, so yes
[2017-01-10 04:54:10] QuantFocus : or if you want to play the market, wait for premium to reach 10-12 like this rally and then short. downside protection plus a solid roe
[2017-01-10 04:54:21] QuantFocus : but that's atypical
[2017-01-10 04:54:32] aethlios : but keep 75% of btc off bitmex and keep here 25% for margin, so reduce counterparty risk.
[2017-01-10 04:54:39] QuantFocus : yep
[2017-01-10 04:54:45] QuantFocus : that's the smart way to hedge
[2017-01-10 04:55:05] QuantFocus : like he said, synthetic cash
[2017-01-10 04:55:59] MikeHunt : aethlios: oh ok thanks for help
[2017-01-10 04:56:14] aethlios : QuantFocus: you can be in swap (variable rate) if you think pump ahead and jump to quarterly to lock the fix interest, if crash happens and fixed rates crash also, then close in profit quarterly and go back to swap. this way you trade the interest rates.
[2017-01-10 04:56:53] QuantFocus : on an unrelated note, btc pump looks good for continuation imo: http://imgur.com/PNmLeBH
[2017-01-10 04:58:24] QuantFocus : aethlios: :D
[2017-01-10 04:58:35] QuantFocus : i have a few trades built around both
[2017-01-10 04:58:45] QuantFocus : but i try to keep them secret
[2017-01-10 04:59:08] aethlios : same chart looking also.
[2017-01-10 05:00:14] Gekko : Current premium on the futures come in massively through....about 16%annualised?
[2017-01-10 05:00:55] QuantFocus : 17% atm
[2017-01-10 05:01:06] QuantFocus : that's pretty low though for this instrument
[2017-01-10 05:02:09] Gekko : was about 25 ?
[2017-01-10 05:02:51] QuantFocus : i believe it hit upwards of 50% on final spike upward
[2017-01-10 05:03:30] QuantFocus : but the spot even had a 5% premium over index
[2017-01-10 05:03:36] QuantFocus : iirc
[2017-01-10 05:03:47] Gekko : jaysus, that was a good spread to lock in
[2017-01-10 05:04:04] QuantFocus : euphoria though
[2017-01-10 05:04:16] QuantFocus : unless you were net neutral
[2017-01-10 05:04:31] Gekko : must be some selling pressure now to keep the spread so tight
[2017-01-10 05:04:40] Gekko : at 17
[2017-01-10 05:04:53] QuantFocus : a lot of pwnage
[2017-01-10 05:05:06] QuantFocus : a lot of speculators got knocked out. i'm sure they're nursing their wounds
[2017-01-10 05:06:00] aethlios : after the battle you need to collect the wounded.
[2017-01-10 05:07:58] QuantFocus : or kick em while they're down
[2017-01-10 05:08:40] aethlios : market little more bullish today, weekly in premium 1 usd from discount, swap here in premium, and march spread up 4 usd.
[2017-01-10 05:10:37] Gekko : average futures premium about 40 around this price?
[2017-01-10 05:11:01] Gekko : usual historical premium?
[2017-01-10 05:11:03] QuantFocus : been floating at 30, but 40 is probably more appropriate
[2017-01-10 05:11:22] QuantFocus : maybe 50 even
[2017-01-10 05:32:41] StanTheMan : users dropping like crazy
[2017-01-10 05:37:47] Dtrade16 : wow
[2017-01-10 05:39:42] aethlios : Gekko: at the top of the pump had a high of 171, and at the bottom of the crash -3.
[2017-01-10 05:41:58] Dtrade16 : What just happened?
[2017-01-10 05:48:28] QuantFocus : well that's not good
[2017-01-10 05:48:29] StanTheMan : btc dumping
[2017-01-10 05:49:10] StanTheMan : nice fake out pump
[2017-01-10 05:49:21] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-10 05:50:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 895.82
[2017-01-10 05:50:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2406 @ 894.91
[2017-01-10 05:51:16] Dtrade16 : Back down to 880s
[2017-01-10 05:51:48] jose : Dtrade16: yes please
[2017-01-10 05:53:55] aandy : I FEEL ITS GOING LOWER
[2017-01-10 05:54:06] XBT_IHCT : StanTheMan: are you the same "StanTheMan" as from the steemit website?
[2017-01-10 05:54:10] shiroe : boring, 4days of boringness.
[2017-01-10 05:56:19] StanTheMan : no XBT_IHCT
[2017-01-10 05:56:43] StanTheMan : but now i feel dirty knowing i took the same name as a person from steemit
[2017-01-10 05:58:02] XBT_IHCT : StanTheMan: lol
[2017-01-10 05:58:51] QuantFocus : can't tell if it's a trap or not
[2017-01-10 06:00:46] StanTheMan : 6 hour bbands really coming in now
[2017-01-10 06:01:10] XBT_IHCT : StanTheMan: hehe just one of those funny coin cidences then
[2017-01-10 06:01:29] Dtrade16 : Anyone here trade penny stocks?
[2017-01-10 06:04:21] XBT_IHCT : Dtrade16: "red hot penny stocks" no never, how about you?
[2017-01-10 06:04:38] Dtrade16 : Yes
[2017-01-10 06:05:00] XBT_IHCT : any real money to be made there?
[2017-01-10 06:05:04] Dtrade16 : KPOC stock
[2017-01-10 06:05:13] Dtrade16 : just shot up 700 % lol
[2017-01-10 06:05:21] Dtrade16 : Big pump and dump
[2017-01-10 06:05:25] Dtrade16 : Yah of course
[2017-01-10 06:05:29] Dtrade16 : Shorting lol
[2017-01-10 06:05:42] XBT_IHCT : interesting!
[2017-01-10 06:05:58] XBT_IHCT : can you use btc to trade them?
[2017-01-10 06:06:04] Dtrade16 : No
[2017-01-10 06:06:57] XBT_IHCT : Dtrade16: hey man! there is an opportunity there no? e.g. "satosh stocks"
[2017-01-10 06:07:08] XBT_IHCT : lol
[2017-01-10 06:08:02] Dtrade16 : Lol they're regulated though
[2017-01-10 06:08:05] Dtrade16 : So no luck
[2017-01-10 06:08:21] Dtrade16 : Maybe though I'm not sure how that would work
[2017-01-10 06:09:06] XBT_IHCT : I don't think that's not a real problem though
[2017-01-10 06:09:47] XBT_IHCT : the regulation issue can be surmounted I'm sure
[2017-01-10 06:11:25] XBT_IHCT : QuantFocus: trap suspicion confirmed
[2017-01-10 06:12:28] QuantFocus : still not sure
[2017-01-10 06:12:37] QuantFocus : it's awfully quiet though
[2017-01-10 06:17:17] XBT_IHCT : indeed, but I suspect we'll go lower in the next 1~3 hours
[2017-01-10 06:17:35] StanTheMan : btc full of rising wedges
[2017-01-10 06:17:51] QuantFocus : yea, i'm pretty bullish, but this seems off
[2017-01-10 06:18:12] QuantFocus : i think it's time to take my eyes off it for a while
[2017-01-10 06:18:19] QuantFocus : good luck guys
[2017-01-10 06:19:30] XBT_IHCT : cheers man
[2017-01-10 06:21:05] XBT_IHCT : StanTheMan: what time frame are you looking at?
[2017-01-10 06:22:07] StanTheMan : 1 hour chart
[2017-01-10 06:22:19] StanTheMan : you can see every time it goes up. it breaks down recently
[2017-01-10 06:26:16] StanTheMan : of course higher lows for now
[2017-01-10 06:27:17] StanTheMan : which should mean this bounces somewhere in the 6200's cny
[2017-01-10 06:30:25] XBT_IHCT : StanTheMan: yeah, that will do my short some good but my longs no so much
[2017-01-10 06:31:33] XBT_IHCT : but I'll try and catch the knife on them and see how I go
[2017-01-10 06:37:14] juchide : seems like my transaction is pending all the time since yesterday. although miners working ok
[2017-01-10 06:37:28] juchide : tx f1a1b332a2c4dfd7d20f7454b444a5f14998c59068d1a50317e8172da78309e7
[2017-01-10 06:37:47] juchide : wtf
[2017-01-10 06:39:10] StanTheMan : that's odd
[2017-01-10 06:39:20] StanTheMan : 20,000 unconfirmed transactions
[2017-01-10 06:39:23] StanTheMan : currently
[2017-01-10 06:40:11] StanTheMan : seems like the transactions spamming is done. should confirm in one of the next blocks
[2017-01-10 06:43:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 50 @ 0.004810
[2017-01-10 06:47:14] XBT_IHCT : juchide: what was the miner fee you payed?
[2017-01-10 06:47:32] juchide : 0.0005 BTC
[2017-01-10 06:47:38] juchide : 45 cents
[2017-01-10 06:48:15] StanTheMan : i paid 54 cents when there was over 40,000 unconfirmed transactions and was included in the next block the other day
[2017-01-10 06:54:34] XBT_IHCT : juchide: that is strange, my wallet predicts that with that level of fee you should get included into the next block!
[2017-01-10 06:54:40] FreeMoney : always pay over 30 cent fee
[2017-01-10 06:55:04] XBT_IHCT : he did man @FreeMoney
[2017-01-10 06:55:50] juchide : miners is like declining me
[2017-01-10 06:56:05] juchide : btc lag?
[2017-01-10 06:56:14] StanTheMan : lol someone just paid a $5.04 fee
[2017-01-10 06:56:57] StanTheMan : some people pay really high fees
[2017-01-10 07:01:08] XBT_IHCT : StanTheMan: high for btc yeah but that's still really low compared to other services eh
[2017-01-10 07:02:51] XBT_IHCT : juchide: do you have any more balance available?
[2017-01-10 07:03:45] FreeMoney : I pay $1 sometimes to guarantee next block.
[2017-01-10 07:04:52] aandy : oh daymn dumppppp
[2017-01-10 07:09:51] XBT_IHCT : juchide: it could also be a weird network quirk arising from the fact the tx is from multiple inputs
[2017-01-10 07:10:49] juchide : how can I solve that? O_O
[2017-01-10 07:11:17] XBT_IHCT : juchide: do you have any more funds on any of those addresses?
[2017-01-10 07:14:02] juchide : no
[2017-01-10 07:14:04] juchide : havent
[2017-01-10 07:14:20] XBT_IHCT : juchide: yeah it looks like you still have a bit of dust on 2 of those addresses.
[2017-01-10 07:15:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6694 @ 900.73
[2017-01-10 07:15:52] XBT_IHCT : juchide: these two: 16yCKmhp25RZX97cAXdcdURb7DqKuy51te 1JpfjZ4WFejDwSdAQY37ktxvUVC7v2LFeQ
[2017-01-10 07:16:09] juchide : do you think I get my money?
[2017-01-10 07:16:35] enki0182 : hi all... newbie here (long time btc, little bit of noob trade in 2013)... I made coin on the rise (and fall)... but only because the psychological scaring of 2013 did i know what big red dildos meant. Anyways... any tips for me here? quick Q's... better to reinforce position to average out if order going against you, but your confident in the long term trend?
[2017-01-10 07:17:14] arbitrage101 : how things go, fellow
[2017-01-10 07:17:18] enki0182 : also - what is a good timespan from entry->exit?
[2017-01-10 07:17:19] arbitrage101 : quiet
[2017-01-10 07:17:27] enki0182 : 10 mins, 10 days?
[2017-01-10 07:17:39] enki0182 : hi arb
[2017-01-10 07:20:35] XBT_IHCT : juchide: yeah, you could try to send 0.0001 btc from the 2 addresses that still have a bit of dust in them, and set the fee to 0.00048211 (the remainder)
[2017-01-10 07:22:28] juchide : no, i cant do that
[2017-01-10 07:22:45] XBT_IHCT : why not?
[2017-01-10 07:23:19] juchide : it was done automated
[2017-01-10 07:23:44] juchide : local exchange
[2017-01-10 07:24:46] XBT_IHCT : oh so you don't chave control of those addresses!?
[2017-01-10 07:25:08] XBT_IHCT : *have
[2017-01-10 07:26:57] juchide : yea
[2017-01-10 07:27:11] XBT_IHCT : juchide: if you can somehow do that, then you have effectively paid 0.00098211 in fees, which may be enough to push it through you see?
[2017-01-10 07:27:58] juchide : gonna try
[2017-01-10 07:29:27] XBT_IHCT : juchide: you could try submitting a support request to the exchange and see if they can do it for you if you don't have control
[2017-01-10 07:33:23] piegunn : Is there a maximum return limit on BitMEX? Like will a position get closed if my proft is over a few hundred percent?
[2017-01-10 07:33:42] StanTheMan : No.
[2017-01-10 07:37:04] piegunn : Cool, thanks
[2017-01-10 07:39:48] XBT_IHCT : piegunn: the ADL system automatically deleverages opposing traders’ positions by profit and leverage priority though.
[2017-01-10 07:40:19] XBT_IHCT : piegunn: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2017-01-10 07:55:51] enki0182 : if i move the leverage slider whilst i have an open position, does it short my current position, taking into account losses/gains, and applying the leverage from that point in time?
[2017-01-10 07:56:32] MikeHunt : i think i may have just been bear trapped
[2017-01-10 07:57:15] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: lol how so?
[2017-01-10 07:57:54] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: shortted 895
[2017-01-10 07:59:10] BitMEX_Jack : We will hold a seminar in Shenzhen (China), on this sat. Free entry, lunch and translation provided, welcome all to join: https://www.eventbrite.hk/e/blockchain-technology-tickets-30881873515
[2017-01-10 07:59:33] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: when?
[2017-01-10 08:00:23] enki0182 : ^this saturday 14th
[2017-01-10 08:00:23] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: around 6am
[2017-01-10 08:00:44] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: i was awoken to alarm bells and quickly shorted it
[2017-01-10 08:02:31] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: what's your lev?
[2017-01-10 08:03:05] XBT_IHCT : can you just sell more?
[2017-01-10 08:04:39] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: 25x
[2017-01-10 08:06:14] aandy : same position as you shorted at 896,29 25X tempted to short more
[2017-01-10 08:06:26] MikeHunt : i feel better knowing im not the only one lol
[2017-01-10 08:07:15] MikeHunt : however indicators suggests it may fail to break upwards so might not be too bad in the end
[2017-01-10 08:08:48] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: oh well you can sell 3x more contracts at 903 for example and then you bring your entry price up to 901
[2017-01-10 08:09:51] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: thanks, if it fails to break i may just do that
[2017-01-10 08:10:07] aandy : lets see
[2017-01-10 08:11:01] XBT_IHCT : I consider 25x a gamble anyway, so 25x or 100x is the same to me... that's all gambling territory.
[2017-01-10 08:12:19] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: what's your threshold level, beneath which you consider it a trade and above which you consider it a gamble?
[2017-01-10 08:13:32] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: also what's your position size man?
[2017-01-10 08:16:25] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: if it breaks out then it'd be a gamble ie: above $912
[2017-01-10 08:17:35] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: no I meant leverage level?
[2017-01-10 08:17:51] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: depends on the situation
[2017-01-10 08:18:36] MikeHunt : i dont like gambling i like to calculate where it will stop and then buy/sell there
[2017-01-10 08:18:59] MikeHunt : admittingly making a mid-sleep short was probably a bad idea
[2017-01-10 08:19:39] XBT_IHCT : indeed
[2017-01-10 08:20:39] MikeHunt : MFI suggests this is becoming overbought so it might reverse
[2017-01-10 08:20:55] XBT_IHCT : I don't get your answer about leverage but okay
[2017-01-10 08:21:19] XBT_IHCT : MikeHunt: what's you position size anyway?
[2017-01-10 08:22:14] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: about leverage i mean i dont consider any size to be a gamble although others probably consider high amounts to be, i base leverage on how accurate i think my decision is
[2017-01-10 08:23:03] MikeHunt : i calculated a stop point for a dip, 100x it and made 0.1btc
[2017-01-10 08:23:19] MikeHunt : my position size is 6500 contracts
[2017-01-10 08:26:25] XBT_IHCT : I see
[2017-01-10 08:28:58] Dtrade16 : Market wants to move up
[2017-01-10 08:29:29] Dtrade16 : We may stay at these levels but this market has a strong upward bias
[2017-01-10 08:29:38] XBT_IHCT : yeah I'm starting to think the same thing
[2017-01-10 08:30:02] Dtrade16 : I'm outta bitfinex and back on polo sadly. Polo is the worst safe exchange ever lol
[2017-01-10 08:30:20] Dtrade16 : Feels like I'm playing a video game when I'm trading on their idk why
[2017-01-10 08:30:54] Dtrade16 : Bitfinex is the best shady exchange, can't win lol
[2017-01-10 08:31:11] enki0182 : ^agree
[2017-01-10 08:31:33] Dtrade16 : We
[2017-01-10 08:31:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 580 @ 905.92
[2017-01-10 08:32:04] Dtrade16 : We're going to need a bit to work out the bad news back as soon as it's out price will go up and everything will be right back where it ended
[2017-01-10 08:32:24] Dtrade16 : but *
[2017-01-10 08:33:21] Dtrade16 : Constant bad news and this thing is not going down
[2017-01-10 08:33:23] aandy : looking bad for us mike lol
[2017-01-10 08:36:00] Dtrade16 : aandy: What price did you short at?
[2017-01-10 08:36:44] aandy : 899.64
[2017-01-10 08:37:15] FreeMoney : unlikely to stag higher, means a bigger move. Watching for a visit under 900 before tonight test
[2017-01-10 08:37:49] XBT_IHCT : juchide: hey man, looks like you got your confirmation now eh!
[2017-01-10 08:38:04] Dtrade16 : FreeMoney: What's your entry?
[2017-01-10 08:38:54] FreeMoney : I flip this shit like a flapjack
[2017-01-10 08:40:57] XBT_IHCT : FreeMoney: lol
[2017-01-10 08:41:37] FreeMoney : short just under 904 will close in the high 8s or stop past 910
[2017-01-10 08:41:48] Dtrade16 : Nice
[2017-01-10 08:41:59] Dtrade16 : Do you guys call bitstamp bearstamp?
[2017-01-10 08:42:21] FreeMoney : the 907 caught me off guard thats where I wanted to stagger up from but I went pussy mode and now will bear conseq
[2017-01-10 08:42:43] Dtrade16 : Is that what you guys are referring to? lol
[2017-01-10 08:43:09] FreeMoney : well it has been lately
[2017-01-10 08:43:49] XBT_IHCT : what's "kitten mode"? lol
[2017-01-10 08:44:48] FreeMoney : meow
[2017-01-10 08:45:06] FreeMoney : pussay
[2017-01-10 08:45:40] FreeMoney : that is my first major mistake today. No patience
[2017-01-10 09:23:05] FreeMoney : this is prime selling zone
[2017-01-10 09:27:53] enki0182 : FreeMoney - do you troll and gove opposite advice on purpose?
[2017-01-10 09:29:16] enki0182 : ^sorry freemoney - I guess it is the trollbox - and I admit... i may do the same thing on occassion
[2017-01-10 09:30:34] FreeMoney : no legit this is my trade
[2017-01-10 09:31:09] FreeMoney : enki0182: your telling me this is the buy zone???
[2017-01-10 09:31:16] enki0182 : ^ok... hope mine is better - but i guess we are all optomists until the market swings one way or another.
[2017-01-10 09:31:43] FreeMoney : breaking here means much higher and imo too early for such a move
[2017-01-10 09:31:45] enki0182 : (no... just not the time to short... unless your trades are every 10 mins
[2017-01-10 09:32:08] enki0182 : i agree with the "early"...
[2017-01-10 09:32:27] enki0182 : but im ahead and not overlev'd... so im hangin on (maybe until March (jokes)...:P
[2017-01-10 09:33:05] enki0182 : you are probably a better trader than I.
[2017-01-10 09:34:29] enki0182 : can you please tell me why the orderbook is full of 5000 max trades? why not 20-40k?
[2017-01-10 09:34:44] enki0182 : most are sub <1k
[2017-01-10 09:35:05] enki0182 : do people prefer to levg themselves on smaller amounts of contracts for liquidity reasons?
[2017-01-10 09:36:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 907.53
[2017-01-10 09:37:36] aethlios : many gold bugs, gold sellers promoters doom and gloom economic collapse buy gold now supporters, started making youtube videos for btc. I guess they will helps our profits when start selling btc to their precious metals clients.
[2017-01-10 09:50:00] Dtrade16 : Can I send eth to here?
[2017-01-10 09:52:59] PearlPitcher : BitMEX only accepts Bitcoin deposits. https://www.bitmex.com/app/deposit
[2017-01-10 09:56:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 1 @ 0.011230
[2017-01-10 09:56:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 143 @ 0.011230
[2017-01-10 10:06:14] alejandromasari : bitcoin mentioned on cnbc
[2017-01-10 10:08:14] mariomarco : btc scam
[2017-01-10 10:08:42] alejandromasari : are we still shorting bitcoin?
[2017-01-10 10:08:56] mariomarco : no
[2017-01-10 10:09:00] mariomarco : longing but it wong long
[2017-01-10 10:09:03] mariomarco : and it wont short
[2017-01-10 10:09:11] mariomarco : sideways chop scam
[2017-01-10 10:10:05] Dtrade16 : mariomarco: What are you talking about we're going up?
[2017-01-10 10:10:22] mariomarco : when?
[2017-01-10 10:10:26] mariomarco : i didnt notice
[2017-01-10 10:10:41] mariomarco : all i see is weak supports and strong rejects
[2017-01-10 10:10:46] mariomarco : fukking wedges and shit
[2017-01-10 10:10:53] mariomarco : and it just bounces down and down
[2017-01-10 10:12:58] Dtrade16 : Look at the 6h chart
[2017-01-10 10:13:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 40000 @ 6642.2
[2017-01-10 10:13:07] Dtrade16 : We're slowly creeping upward
[2017-01-10 10:20:31] Dtrade16 : Moving avg lines are converging we're most likely going to get a move here
[2017-01-10 10:50:27] mariomarco : this is weak
[2017-01-10 10:50:28] mariomarco : i dont like it
[2017-01-10 10:52:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 3 @ 6644.6 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-10 10:59:26] aethlios : buyers buy slowly, don't want to make public fomo buy again.
[2017-01-10 11:00:42] Dynamix : Go go fomo up
[2017-01-10 11:01:49] aethlios : above 1,000 spot fomo will start again. people will say btc above 1,000 again, run to buy..... so whales accumulate slowly below tha 1,000 psychological barrier.
[2017-01-10 11:02:39] thailand : you a whale?
[2017-01-10 11:06:11] Dynamix : Lel
[2017-01-10 11:06:18] Dynamix : lets go upp pls
[2017-01-10 11:06:55] Boontjie : aethlios: above 1000 the bagholders will sell
[2017-01-10 11:12:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15 @ 907.78
[2017-01-10 11:12:52] aethlios : i am a dolphin
[2017-01-10 11:13:05] aethlios : neither whale nor fish.
[2017-01-10 11:29:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 16186 @ 906.57
[2017-01-10 11:29:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2370 @ 906.71
[2017-01-10 11:33:36] Dtrade16 : Boontjie: And it will go higher. A lot of people will sell lower dude to them just wanting to part
[2017-01-10 11:45:05] alejandromasari : dropped 5 bucks in 1 minute
[2017-01-10 11:45:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3 @ 898.24 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-10 11:45:16] moo : more longs getting owned! scam.
[2017-01-10 11:46:57] FreeMoney : thats what I call free money
[2017-01-10 11:47:23] Gekko : Massive selling around 900 repeatedly on the hourly
[2017-01-10 11:51:42] alejandromasari : coinase vpo on cnbc
[2017-01-10 11:51:49] alejandromasari : squak box
[2017-01-10 11:52:03] mariomarco : btc scam
[2017-01-10 11:53:52] abbey : sell your coins, i'm buying dem
[2017-01-10 11:55:28] abbey : i'm offering a good opportunity to get rid of those scamcoins
[2017-01-10 12:01:58] Boontjie : Dtrade16: We'll see, used to linging btc all the time yet?
[2017-01-10 12:05:42] enki0182 : i love to see the euphoria and discourse of trolling in the "trollbox"... reaffirms my position (which is rather large now after averaging down every dip twice)... i am sure I will wake up a happy man tomorrow.
[2017-01-10 12:06:22] Boontjie : enki0182: you will be a rich long?
[2017-01-10 12:07:06] enki0182 : i dont share my position... sorry... but im more than happy to confirm that I love btc.
[2017-01-10 12:10:24] Dtrade16 : enki0182: You mean you're pyramiding?
[2017-01-10 12:10:34] Dtrade16 : Boontjie: ?
[2017-01-10 12:11:40] enki0182 : if we know the long term course... then pyramid - why not? most effective way to reduce risk OVER TIME... so when we reaching the next ATH - its easy pickings and easy decisions...
[2017-01-10 12:11:57] enki0182 : with little regrets;)
[2017-01-10 12:12:23] enki0182 : then be quick as hell to catch the red dildos on 100x... :P
[2017-01-10 12:12:38] mariomarco : fake volume scam dump
[2017-01-10 12:12:44] enki0182 : ^
[2017-01-10 12:12:47] enki0182 : ^agree
[2017-01-10 12:13:15] enki0182 : whales are jumping to buy coins <$1k before next pump
[2017-01-10 12:13:28] enki0182 : *buy with them :P
[2017-01-10 12:14:15] enki0182 : (sorry... forgot this was trollbox) - SELL NOW... WE ALL GOING DOWN LOL
[2017-01-10 12:16:06] rustiv : lots of people expecting another shakeout down to ~830
[2017-01-10 12:16:44] enki0182 : btw bitmex is so much better than bitfinex... I swear those guys take over the top cuts on every trade - and their engine is not as accurate and complex as bitmex.... wd bitmex...!
[2017-01-10 12:17:28] enki0182 : sorry rustiv... but i do not concur.
[2017-01-10 12:18:28] feeling8ts : lol
[2017-01-10 12:18:34] feeling8ts : rustiv: lol
[2017-01-10 12:18:37] enki0182 : i think it "may" "tap" 900 MAX... on finex.. then go bust trough the roof... then plateau for a while before the jan 12-18 HUGE RUSH. (second peak)... 2 of 3.
[2017-01-10 12:18:39] Dtrade16 : enki0182: bitfinex is a solid platform though
[2017-01-10 12:18:58] Dtrade16 : just unethical owners
[2017-01-10 12:21:15] Dtrade16 : Polo sucks
[2017-01-10 12:36:27] alejandromasari : I like this chop, it eliminates the traders with no patience
[2017-01-10 12:36:42] alejandromasari : chop their account to little iotas
[2017-01-10 12:36:43] alejandromasari : lol
[2017-01-10 12:37:01] alejandromasari : once they are gone, then we go up...
[2017-01-10 12:41:11] StanTheMan : Are we pumping to 980 yet
[2017-01-10 12:41:22] StanTheMan : Or dumping to 840 yet
[2017-01-10 12:41:26] birdie numn : i want i want!
[2017-01-10 12:41:40] birdie numn : no volume doe
[2017-01-10 12:44:43] enki0182 : Im sorry to say that we are goin above 920...
[2017-01-10 12:45:10] birdie numn : in what timeframe?
[2017-01-10 12:45:24] enki0182 : queue rustiv and feeling8ts......
[2017-01-10 12:45:35] enki0182 : 1-2 hours
[2017-01-10 12:47:08] enki0182 : may g back down to 860, but no lower on next 72 hours.
[2017-01-10 12:50:30] enki0182 : gunna bust through previous top, then go higher, then cycle lower to less than previous bottom.
[2017-01-10 12:51:01] enki0182 : may slumber until Jan 12th when the uan takes a :real: hit... then we back in business
[2017-01-10 12:58:14] birdie numn : i think the new peoples money who saw the ath during bank holidays should get btheir money on exchanges like troday-tmrw. might provide mid-term support for 920 if people trade against the influx of new money.
[2017-01-10 12:58:41] birdie numn : until the inevitable trump pump
[2017-01-10 12:59:21] rapidtrades : so many newbs!
[2017-01-10 12:59:39] birdie numn : :)
[2017-01-10 12:59:39] alejandromasari : bitcoin is being heavily promoted on cnbc
[2017-01-10 12:59:45] birdie numn : yes. good to be here
[2017-01-10 13:04:28] rapidtrades : alejandromasari: are u sure it's being 'promoted'? or reported
[2017-01-10 13:06:01] rustiv : inevitable trump pump
[2017-01-10 13:06:11] rustiv : i like that
[2017-01-10 13:06:32] birdie numn : rapidtrades: i think e was talking about that http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000582735&play=1
[2017-01-10 13:12:12] rapidtrades : lol so they intervied a guy from Coinbase who pumped BTC
[2017-01-10 13:12:43] rapidtrades : guess its good they didn't pump ETH and shit on BTC
[2017-01-10 13:12:56] birdie numn : tl;dw: CNBC's Kate Rogers knows bitcoin adoption to be binary and asks if it didnt happen in 2013 then the whole concept must be a fud
[2017-01-10 13:32:57] enki0182 : rustiv - where is the market going?
[2017-01-10 13:40:35] enki0182 : ^? thought the marker was 830?
[2017-01-10 13:40:56] enki0182 : last time i listen to rustiv
[2017-01-10 13:41:09] sleger : @aethlios : still waiting with bids at 710 ?
[2017-01-10 13:41:24] enki0182 : ^dont wait m8....
[2017-01-10 13:41:34] sleger : ^ its not me dummy
[2017-01-10 13:41:50] enki0182 : maybe between 10th and 11th it might get down to that .... but then its rrofin on 12-18th.
[2017-01-10 13:41:57] enki0182 : roofing*
[2017-01-10 13:42:22] enki0182 : ^ :P ... goood stuff then
[2017-01-10 13:47:19] enki0182 : bitmex is better than the other exchanges by far....
[2017-01-10 13:47:51] enki0182 : easy to understand for "noob traders like me".... and doesnt scalp the crap out of you forever....lol
[2017-01-10 13:48:47] enki0182 : who is ready for the next liftoff on huobi from 6330 - >6400+?
[2017-01-10 13:48:49] birdie numn : the noob comment was directed at me!
[2017-01-10 13:49:11] birdie numn : i have longs from 904
[2017-01-10 13:49:23] enki0182 : no birdie - i got raped by finex too...hehe
[2017-01-10 13:50:01] enki0182 : birdie numn: keep them... as long as your liq pos isnt 880 or less.
[2017-01-10 13:50:42] enki0182 : in fact when it dips - reinforce strategically, or alternatively - slide your leverage higher (AT THE DIPS ONLY).
[2017-01-10 13:51:26] birdie numn : how does increasing leverage at dips help when one has a long?
[2017-01-10 13:54:09] Boontjie : birdie numn: it boosts your liquidation price, so you can liquidated faster
[2017-01-10 13:54:33] enki0182 : birdie - when an "entry point" is discovered - but you cannot get in - (coz already in market, or no sells to buy your position)... then change lev posn to maximise the rise.
[2017-01-10 13:55:10] enki0182 : (like now ; ))
[2017-01-10 13:55:17] birdie numn : enki0182: makes sense ty
[2017-01-10 13:55:46] enki0182 : np (newbie to 2016/17 rush msyelf)... but long time trader
[2017-01-10 13:57:03] enki0182 : inc btc.
[2017-01-10 13:57:13] enki0182 : gl hf
[2017-01-10 13:57:20] birdie numn : my liq price is at 890 doe :P came with 5eur to compare interface to others
[2017-01-10 13:57:41] birdie numn : had to get a bite of that juicy 50x margin
[2017-01-10 13:58:18] enki0182 : well stop leveraging like your mommas life hangs off it.
[2017-01-10 13:58:38] birdie numn : i know that that
[2017-01-10 13:58:54] enki0182 : go 5/10/ (increase to 25, when you know you at a good entry point).
[2017-01-10 13:58:55] birdie numn : its like a "when in paris" moment
[2017-01-10 13:59:49] birdie numn : but thank you for the kind advice
[2017-01-10 13:59:58] enki0182 : gl buddy - most people i know aint far off you... and the only ones that give me "good" info... are freemasons...
[2017-01-10 14:00:06] enki0182 : np mate
[2017-01-10 14:00:07] enki0182 : gl
[2017-01-10 14:00:13] enki0182 : like for all of us :)
[2017-01-10 14:00:19] enki0182 : in 4 years we all be smiling
[2017-01-10 14:00:27] birdie numn : yes
[2017-01-10 14:00:46] shiroe : The bull is winning! hurray!
[2017-01-10 14:02:55] enki0182 : ^
[2017-01-10 14:16:56] rapidtrades : can't believe ppl are still bullish
[2017-01-10 14:16:57] MikeHunt : dont be so sure
[2017-01-10 14:17:03] MikeHunt : awful big drop possible
[2017-01-10 14:17:29] MikeHunt : u know what dem whales are like, pumping and then slamming it down
[2017-01-10 14:17:55] rapidtrades : didn't u guys lose all ur monies longing on leverage?
[2017-01-10 14:21:22] enki0182 : wow - those with sell orders really trying to dump on bitmex - an exchange with minimal volume.... rofl..... through a "trollbox".... fyi - there is no stopping the chinese.
[2017-01-10 14:22:01] MikeHunt : enki0182: the mean is 5300-5600
[2017-01-10 14:22:05] MikeHunt : going by cny/usd