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[2017-01-09 22:34:23] StanTheMan : fuck
[2017-01-09 22:34:46] StanTheMan : 13 hours 26 minutes till i can withdraw my BTC and buy LTC
[2017-01-09 22:35:15] rapidtrades : buy here dummeh
[2017-01-09 22:35:33] StanTheMan : that's the poor mans way
[2017-01-09 22:35:37] rapidtrades : 33x that shit
[2017-01-09 22:35:50] StanTheMan : holding LTC on 20x = max profit
[2017-01-09 22:36:04] rapidtrades : oh fosho
[2017-01-09 22:36:32] StanTheMan : but 33x will have to do for now
[2017-01-09 22:37:45] StanTheMan : ltc/cny new high
[2017-01-09 22:38:04] StanTheMan : resistance gone
[2017-01-09 22:39:03] itsyourboy : StanTheMan: Thanks, almost closed my position, holding again, got any exit point in mind?
[2017-01-09 22:39:26] StanTheMan : yeah 88.88 cny for ltc/cny
[2017-01-09 22:39:28] StanTheMan : i will sell then
[2017-01-09 22:39:43] StanTheMan : about 3x from here
[2017-01-09 22:39:51] itsyourboy : whats that in xbt language
[2017-01-09 22:40:30] StanTheMan : 0.01
[2017-01-09 22:40:56] itsyourboy : bloody hell, you think we're going interstellar
[2017-01-09 22:41:01] StanTheMan : for being conservative
[2017-01-09 22:41:35] itsyourboy : thats march 2014 levels
[2017-01-09 22:43:03] itsyourboy : i think it was you i was talking to earlier when i mentioned segwit
[2017-01-09 22:44:03] Dynamix : well missed the pump mehh
[2017-01-09 22:44:51] itsyourboy : Dynamix: it stalled for a bit, now its on the move again as Stan said the resistance went
[2017-01-09 22:45:17] Dynamix : oh damn for sure it did
[2017-01-09 22:45:17] Dynamix : haha
[2017-01-09 22:45:36] Dynamix : waitint to see if its going to go more down or up
[2017-01-09 22:45:43] Luca : damn you all still here
[2017-01-09 22:45:58] Dynamix : Luca: Obvs , why you wanna get rid of me ? :(
[2017-01-09 22:46:17] Dynamix : Send me BTC and I'll be here forever haha
[2017-01-09 22:46:35] Luca : i don't, the bitcoin market probably do
[2017-01-09 22:46:47] Dynamix : down we go
[2017-01-09 22:47:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 2284 @ 6534.8
[2017-01-09 22:47:38] Luca : it seems like the party is over
[2017-01-09 22:47:50] Luca : till next hype bull week
[2017-01-09 22:47:50] MikeHunt : we broke through?
[2017-01-09 22:47:51] abbey : Dynamix: you mean btc?
[2017-01-09 22:47:57] Dynamix : yup
[2017-01-09 22:48:07] abbey : down?
[2017-01-09 22:48:13] Dynamix : yup
[2017-01-09 22:48:29] abbey : now?
[2017-01-09 22:48:37] Dynamix : well my chair just broke
[2017-01-09 22:48:39] Dynamix : rip haha
[2017-01-09 22:49:04] Dynamix : Now its only got 1 handle lucky me its the right arm
[2017-01-09 22:49:32] Dynamix : Down it goes
[2017-01-09 22:49:32] Dynamix : hehe
[2017-01-09 22:49:36] Dynamix : Fall like titanic
[2017-01-09 22:49:44] itsyourboy : Dynamix: 100% going to go
[2017-01-09 22:51:00] Dynamix : Or nope
[2017-01-09 22:51:19] Dynamix : we can go up 2x from here
[2017-01-09 22:51:21] abbey : Dynamix: open your eyes man, we go up
[2017-01-09 22:51:40] Dynamix : abbey: ok bb
[2017-01-09 22:53:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `REP7D`: sell 150 @ 0.004676
[2017-01-09 22:54:05] Dynamix : up we goo
[2017-01-09 22:54:19] Dynamix : broke some nice resistance lets do this
[2017-01-09 22:54:23] shiroe : Welcome to our every tuesday pump, brought to you by chinese pumpers.
[2017-01-09 22:54:47] Dynamix : shiroe: Haha , I hope I can ride this through at 100x
[2017-01-09 22:54:48] Dynamix : 0.025
[2017-01-09 22:55:23] shiroe : Dynamix: we will do it! x50!
[2017-01-09 22:55:30] abbey : Dynamix: well it's possible if you foun the bottom
[2017-01-09 22:55:43] Dynamix : abbey: entry at 899 haha
[2017-01-09 22:56:06] Dynamix : buy buy cheap btc haha
[2017-01-09 22:56:14] brojo : bit coin finally established a higher support
[2017-01-09 22:56:17] abbey : ok, it can hold, i'hope it will
[2017-01-09 22:56:32] brojo : at the 6250 mark i bet we see 6400+ in the next couple hours
[2017-01-09 22:56:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 23 @ 0.011240
[2017-01-09 22:56:46] Dynamix : Go china, you always pump so pump now
[2017-01-09 22:57:09] Dynamix : so much sell pressure here wtf ?
[2017-01-09 22:57:17] rowrow : they were finally up in the 6300's again, now on the border (though cny dropped slightly vs usd)
[2017-01-09 22:58:09] Dynamix : 3 minutes wait for the pumpening
[2017-01-09 22:58:38] Dtrade16 : It's 6 am there guys ins't it?
[2017-01-09 22:58:41] rowrow : it annoys me that the index prices exchanges (bitstamp + okc usd) have been lagging behind other u.s. exchanges, otherwise we'd at least get better interest rates on longs
[2017-01-09 22:58:43] Dynamix : yup
[2017-01-09 22:58:47] Dtrade16 : Pump woudn't happen rightnow
[2017-01-09 22:59:01] brojo : its 7am
[2017-01-09 22:59:01] Dtrade16 : probably around 11 am
[2017-01-09 22:59:02] Dynamix : there are so many chineze traders that it doesnt matter what time it is
[2017-01-09 22:59:03] Dynamix : haha
[2017-01-09 22:59:16] Dtrade16 : Dynamix: lol true
[2017-01-09 22:59:30] Dynamix : They teach trading at school
[2017-01-09 22:59:51] Dtrade16 : Dynamix: Really?
[2017-01-09 22:59:53] Dtrade16 : Cool
[2017-01-09 22:59:59] Dynamix : Dtrade16: lol Idk hahah
[2017-01-09 23:00:12] rowrow : they moved on from world of warcraft gold farming 101
[2017-01-09 23:00:21] Dynamix : haha for real
[2017-01-09 23:00:26] Dynamix : Well, most are still there
[2017-01-09 23:00:38] Dynamix : the kids , I haven't played a PC game in a long while haha
[2017-01-09 23:01:13] StanTheMan : ltc 4.20
[2017-01-09 23:01:39] Dynamix : Lets blaze it
[2017-01-09 23:01:41] Dtrade16 : Any robo advisors for btc? lol
[2017-01-09 23:01:55] Dtrade16 : StanTheMan: trying to fill at 4 buxx
[2017-01-09 23:02:06] Dtrade16 : It's overpriced right now imo
[2017-01-09 23:02:15] Dynamix : go bitcoin motherfker to 1000
[2017-01-09 23:02:47] itsyourboy : StanTheMan: Talk to me, we still headed skyward?
[2017-01-09 23:03:12] Dynamix : Yes we are man
[2017-01-09 23:03:16] Dynamix : look at that support dude hehe
[2017-01-09 23:04:02] Dynamix : lets go china :d
[2017-01-09 23:04:23] itsyourboy : LTC sorry
[2017-01-09 23:05:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 20 @ 0.011200
[2017-01-09 23:05:07] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-09 23:05:07] aandy : i donno i might get out of my long position
[2017-01-09 23:05:27] MikeHunt : this is either going very up or very down
[2017-01-09 23:05:43] StanTheMan : LTC best coin to buy
[2017-01-09 23:05:44] Dynamix : after 902.5 is gone, the rest is going to be easy
[2017-01-09 23:05:51] StanTheMan : wish i could withdraw my btc from here. arg
[2017-01-09 23:05:52] rapidtrades : thank u for that insight Mike
[2017-01-09 23:06:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 500 @ 0.011190
[2017-01-09 23:07:03] StanTheMan : eth dumping as people realize ltc is the best
[2017-01-09 23:07:27] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: your wercome http://www.philosophers.co.uk/confucius.jpg
[2017-01-09 23:08:28] Nooby : StanTheMan: lol bullshit
[2017-01-09 23:10:18] sleger : "MikeHunt: this is either going very up or very down" <= 400 or 80k guy at it again
[2017-01-09 23:10:54] Dynamix : sleger: 80k u know :) 10 Trillion dollar market cap
[2017-01-09 23:11:00] StanTheMan : damn why didnt i long btc $15 ago
[2017-01-09 23:11:18] StanTheMan : scared money makes no money
[2017-01-09 23:11:25] Dynamix : StanTheMan: yuup
[2017-01-09 23:11:35] Dynamix : StanTheMan: me too at 100x ;)
[2017-01-09 23:11:52] Dynamix : Going to roll a joint
[2017-01-09 23:11:54] Dynamix : make some tea
[2017-01-09 23:11:56] Dynamix : and done :D
[2017-01-09 23:12:08] Dynamix : if I get fucked I get fucked, No time to trade anyway atm..
[2017-01-09 23:13:32] StanTheMan : damn that xmr bounce
[2017-01-09 23:13:41] StanTheMan : everything going up
[2017-01-09 23:13:57] Dynamix : yess
[2017-01-09 23:14:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 10 @ 0.015301
[2017-01-09 23:14:50] Dynamix : I love bright green candles hahhaa
[2017-01-09 23:16:39] Dynamix : all the way uppp
[2017-01-09 23:18:52] Dynamix : the pumpening
[2017-01-09 23:19:09] StanTheMan : damn. guess i'm gonna long the top and hope btc goes higher
[2017-01-09 23:19:24] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-09 23:19:38] Dynamix : StanTheMan: You thunk it will ? :D
[2017-01-09 23:19:50] Dynamix : 6330 if it breaks :D we are going more up
[2017-01-09 23:20:15] Dynamix : It might break it the next push upwards
[2017-01-09 23:20:46] StanTheMan : i missed XMR and BTC long
[2017-01-09 23:20:54] Dynamix : Yes we are going up :D
[2017-01-09 23:23:55] Dynamix : Only noobs will short at this price
[2017-01-09 23:23:55] Dynamix : hehe
[2017-01-09 23:24:31] yoloshi : hm
[2017-01-09 23:25:18] itsyourboy : just wait for that dump....
[2017-01-09 23:25:51] Dynamix : This can go up really fast
[2017-01-09 23:25:54] Dynamix : really hard haha
[2017-01-09 23:26:00] Dynamix : there wont be a dump look at the buy walls and sell walls
[2017-01-09 23:27:58] StanTheMan : waiting for dump to $700's
[2017-01-09 23:28:45] Dynamix : well you will get white hair until that happens @StanTheMan
[2017-01-09 23:29:28] StanTheMan : gotta be kidding me. $22 up now on xbth17
[2017-01-09 23:29:32] Dynamix : oh yeah boy
[2017-01-09 23:29:34] StanTheMan : i just need to fomo long already
[2017-01-09 23:29:40] Dynamix : Bull run to the top :D
[2017-01-09 23:29:50] Dynamix : new high on okcoin
[2017-01-09 23:30:03] StanTheMan : i just know as soon as i long the top it will dump
[2017-01-09 23:30:28] Dynamix : nearly doubled my investment
[2017-01-09 23:30:28] Dynamix : hehe
[2017-01-09 23:30:29] StanTheMan : lets at least hit $850 again
[2017-01-09 23:31:16] Dynamix : okcoin preparing for new leg up
[2017-01-09 23:31:45] Dynamix : wtf is this shit
[2017-01-09 23:31:57] Dynamix : i put to close my order at 900 and it closed the whole order :@
[2017-01-09 23:32:00] MikeHunt : either that or a flick up n dump to 6k
[2017-01-09 23:32:33] Dynamix : watch how I will miss this pump too haha
[2017-01-09 23:32:39] Dynamix : well, seems like huge sell wall up there
[2017-01-09 23:33:30] KingTuna : okcoin smoking you all
[2017-01-09 23:33:44] Dynamix : KingTuna: or maybe just u hehe
[2017-01-09 23:33:59] KingTuna : Dynamix: All will be revealed in the fullness of time
[2017-01-09 23:37:38] ayy_lmao : what is up with okcoin volume lol
[2017-01-09 23:37:49] brojo : fuck the woodchipper
[2017-01-09 23:38:32] ayy_lmao : anyways new daily in 20 minutes
[2017-01-09 23:38:46] Dynamix : dangerous waters around here
[2017-01-09 23:38:49] Dynamix : will trade at a later time
[2017-01-09 23:39:04] mariomarco : Dynamix: what do you mean dangerous?
[2017-01-09 23:39:14] Dynamix : mariomarco: It can go any way
[2017-01-09 23:39:26] mariomarco : oh that
[2017-01-09 23:39:39] Dynamix : Going to smoke a joint :D
[2017-01-09 23:39:43] Dynamix : brb
[2017-01-09 23:42:33] rafaelnorman : anyone trading litecoin?
[2017-01-09 23:43:18] KingTuna : rafaelnorman: yes
[2017-01-09 23:43:33] itsyourboy : rafaelnorman: yep
[2017-01-09 23:43:50] rafaelnorman : where do you think it's going from here...
[2017-01-09 23:44:06] KingTuna : rafaelnorman: Hopefuly higher :P
[2017-01-09 23:44:09] KingTuna : :P
[2017-01-09 23:44:23] itsyourboy : up, im long from .00475
[2017-01-09 23:45:00] rafaelnorman : haha you got in early... is it a good entry point from here?
[2017-01-09 23:45:10] itsyourboy : think if we break 4.2USD resistance we're heading up again
[2017-01-09 23:45:14] KingTuna : 0.00528 ish im thinking
[2017-01-09 23:45:28] KingTuna : 4.60 range
[2017-01-09 23:46:38] itsyourboy : I could have closed at .00502 but confident it'll surpass that
[2017-01-09 23:47:46] MikeHunt : looking at usd/yuan
[2017-01-09 23:47:53] MikeHunt : i think bitcoin will just hover
[2017-01-09 23:48:30] MikeHunt : also if you look at usd/cnh decline and delay between that and crash in bitcoin, seems it got PnD-ed m,aybe by Fontas
[2017-01-09 23:49:17] Dynamix : how likely is for ltc to go up ?
[2017-01-09 23:49:18] Dynamix : lol
[2017-01-09 23:49:27] Dynamix : and it just boomed up
[2017-01-09 23:49:27] Dynamix : hahah
[2017-01-09 23:50:29] itsyourboy : i think nows a good entry for someone late to the party
[2017-01-09 23:50:59] Dynamix : ltc to 1000 cny
[2017-01-09 23:51:14] itsyourboy : you can see the sell book completely change in the last few mins
[2017-01-09 23:51:16] Dynamix : i'm going to try enter lower
[2017-01-09 23:51:53] Dynamix : not enough volume on bitmex for ltc
[2017-01-09 23:53:21] Dynamix : I think it has to go test the resistance again
[2017-01-09 23:53:28] Dynamix : at 29.88 cny
[2017-01-09 23:55:49] QuantFocus : is BitMEX_Arthur around?
[2017-01-10 00:00:16] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: I'm here
[2017-01-10 00:00:42] QuantFocus : you guys still considering that ETF binary option?
[2017-01-10 00:00:56] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: We're currently looking into it
[2017-01-10 00:01:13] QuantFocus : quick question on evaluating it...
[2017-01-10 00:01:45] QuantFocus : at settlment, payment would be 1 contract to correct holders and 0 contracts to incorrect holders?
[2017-01-10 00:01:57] QuantFocus : settled xbt
[2017-01-10 00:02:52] BitMEX_Greg : Not sure of the multiplier. But settlement should either be 1 or 0. So if you buy at 0.5, and it settles at 1, then you get the # contracts * multiplier * (1 - 0.5) I am guessing
[2017-01-10 00:02:57] QuantFocus : so that if there is a premium or discount on the instrument, it would effectively create odds?
[2017-01-10 00:03:12] BitMEX_Greg : # contracts x multiplier x (1 - 0.5)
[2017-01-10 00:03:21] QuantFocus : but as a binary it should always settle at 1?
[2017-01-10 00:03:29] BitMEX_Greg : There won't be a premium or discount. It will trade where it trades
[2017-01-10 00:03:37] abbey : btc almost ready to go
[2017-01-10 00:03:40] BitMEX_Greg : It should either settle at 1 or 0
[2017-01-10 00:03:45] QuantFocus : right
[2017-01-10 00:03:49] BitMEX_Greg : I.e. it lists or it doesnt
[2017-01-10 00:04:17] QuantFocus : so if someone is willing to 'pay' 3 for it in early trading, and someone is willing to sell it for 3 in early trading, then they're creating odds
[2017-01-10 00:04:24] QuantFocus : the seller liability is still only 1 unit, while they took in 3
[2017-01-10 00:04:28] rapidtrades : we keep going up and I keep paying FEES
[2017-01-10 00:04:40] rapidtrades : i hate the swap
[2017-01-10 00:04:51] BitMEX_Greg : I don't think you will be able to pay or sell it at 3, since max price will be 1
[2017-01-10 00:05:07] QuantFocus : that's why i ask
[2017-01-10 00:05:17] QuantFocus : you should be able to buy or sell at premium or discount
[2017-01-10 00:05:31] QuantFocus : it allows us to determine probability based on market movement
[2017-01-10 00:05:32] BitMEX_Greg : Why would anyone buy it above 1, or why would anyone sell it below 0?
[2017-01-10 00:05:49] QuantFocus : if they feel like it's a "sure bet", they'd pay more if they couldn't get it cheaper
[2017-01-10 00:05:55] QuantFocus : and vice versa
[2017-01-10 00:06:20] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: Greg motion to kill the swap
[2017-01-10 00:06:20] QuantFocus : if i think it's a guaranteed no go, i'll take .5 contracts on sell side since my settlement will be 0
[2017-01-10 00:06:21] BitMEX_Greg : If you are buying at 3, and it settles at 1, then you are losing money. Even if it was a "sure thing"
[2017-01-10 00:06:26] rapidtrades : can I have a second?
[2017-01-10 00:06:27] BitMEX_Greg : rapidtrades: Denied
[2017-01-10 00:06:43] Apocalyptic : QuantFocus: if you think about it, it's obvious it should trade between 0 and 1
[2017-01-10 00:07:38] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Greg: valid point
[2017-01-10 00:07:44] QuantFocus : so, what @Apocalyptic says though...?
[2017-01-10 00:08:41] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: the min price should be 0, and max price should be 1
[2017-01-10 00:09:03] BitMEX_Greg : We can extend those limits, but it would be pointless as you would be losing money all day if you trade outside of them
[2017-01-10 00:09:10] BitMEX_Greg : The odds would be the price
[2017-01-10 00:09:16] QuantFocus : sure
[2017-01-10 00:09:21] QuantFocus : that's my question though
[2017-01-10 00:09:25] BitMEX_Greg : I.e. if its trading at 0.7, then it meeans 70% chance of being accepted
[2017-01-10 00:09:32] QuantFocus : will it trade in range, or simply 1 or 0
[2017-01-10 00:10:00] BitMEX_Greg : If you want to buy and sell above 1 and below 0 respectively, then I am sure there are a lot of traders here would would like that
[2017-01-10 00:10:10] BitMEX_Greg : that would(
[2017-01-10 00:10:11] BitMEX_Greg : *
[2017-01-10 00:10:36] QuantFocus : i was speaking off the cuff, and we clarified that it needs to trade between 0 or 1
[2017-01-10 00:10:55] QuantFocus : just want to know if that will be the case. incremental between those two
[2017-01-10 00:11:19] BitMEX_Greg : Not sure if being trolled or not. But why do you think there is a case for it to trade outside of 0 and 1?
[2017-01-10 00:11:29] QuantFocus : ...
[2017-01-10 00:11:32] QuantFocus : i said inside
[2017-01-10 00:12:00] BitMEX_Greg : It should trade anywhere between 0 and 1
[2017-01-10 00:12:09] rapidtrades : http://news.forexlive.com/!/pimco-looking-for-higher-usdcny-says-china-is-facing-a-trilemma-20170109
[2017-01-10 00:12:10] BitMEX_Greg : 0<= x <= 1
[2017-01-10 00:12:24] Apocalyptic : QuantFocus: it will be a range
[2017-01-10 00:12:29] QuantFocus : so you're confirming that there WILL be increments between the two?
[2017-01-10 00:12:41] Apocalyptic : obviously not only 0 or 1,
[2017-01-10 00:12:42] QuantFocus : .1, .01?
[2017-01-10 00:12:43] BitMEX_Greg : I'm not confirming anything as we haven't launched it yet
[2017-01-10 00:13:07] BitMEX_Sam : If it were launched, it would trade between 0 and 1 freely
[2017-01-10 00:13:11] QuantFocus : Apocalyptic: well it wouldn't trade for 0, but it's possible to only trade for 1
[2017-01-10 00:13:36] Apocalyptic : QuantFocus: for exemple if last price is 0.7, it means the market "agrees" on a 70% probability it happens
[2017-01-10 00:13:43] Apocalyptic : as Greg said above
[2017-01-10 00:13:56] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: ty
[2017-01-10 00:14:16] Apocalyptic : I don't get why you would even fathom the other possibility of entering only the 2 discrete values, makes no sense
[2017-01-10 00:14:52] QuantFocus : it's a binary payout, so it could be binary entry
[2017-01-10 00:15:05] Apocalyptic : but then there's no trading
[2017-01-10 00:15:08] BitMEX_Sam : Except noone would ever enter at 0 or 1
[2017-01-10 00:15:08] QuantFocus : the point of my question to determine if there would be a trading range
[2017-01-10 00:15:10] BitMEX_Sam : There's no upside
[2017-01-10 00:15:15] Apocalyptic : ^^
[2017-01-10 00:15:33] QuantFocus : if you sell at 1 and it doesn't pass, you keep it
[2017-01-10 00:15:35] QuantFocus : that's upside
[2017-01-10 00:15:44] BitMEX_Sam : So, yes, obviously, it will function as a regular market but with a restricted range between 0 and 1
[2017-01-10 00:15:55] BitMEX_Sam : If you would like to take a position where best case, you make 0, and worst case, you lose it all, I suppose that is your right
[2017-01-10 00:16:21] QuantFocus : i'm trying to get initial understanding of how the instrument will function
[2017-01-10 00:16:36] QuantFocus : you know, planning accordingly
[2017-01-10 00:17:21] BitMEX_Greg : QuantFocus: But who would ever buy it off you at 1?
[2017-01-10 00:17:49] QuantFocus : someone thinking it would pass
[2017-01-10 00:17:50] QuantFocus : check it out...
[2017-01-10 00:17:51] sleger : all the newbies ?
[2017-01-10 00:18:18] QuantFocus : buy at 1 with .2xbt as collateral, per Arthur. It passes. I keep my .2xbt collateral, and I receive the .2xbt from the seller
[2017-01-10 00:18:22] Apocalyptic : QuantFocus: if he buys at 1 aand it passes the payout is 0
[2017-01-10 00:18:28] QuantFocus : wrong
[2017-01-10 00:18:31] QuantFocus : read my example
[2017-01-10 00:18:44] Apocalyptic : dude, seriously
[2017-01-10 00:18:45] BitMEX_Sam : Not how it works @QuantFocus
[2017-01-10 00:18:49] Apocalyptic : "If you would like to take a position where best case, you make 0, and worst case, you lose it all, I suppose that is your right"
[2017-01-10 00:18:59] Apocalyptic : what Sam said, just read damn it
[2017-01-10 00:19:28] BitMEX_Sam : Think of it like an altcoin that lives only for the duration of the contract and is worth either 0 or 1 at settlement
[2017-01-10 00:19:35] BitMEX_Sam : If you buy at 1 and it goes nowhere, settles at 1, you've made nothing
[2017-01-10 00:20:08] QuantFocus : ok understood
[2017-01-10 00:20:21] QuantFocus : Apocalyptic: alternatively, it could function like a pure bet, with the house being the seller
[2017-01-10 00:20:32] QuantFocus : 1:1 payout based on buy/sell
[2017-01-10 00:20:41] QuantFocus : it's not unfathomable, and again, is the reason i'm asking questions
[2017-01-10 00:20:57] QuantFocus : and the winning is the exchange of collateral
[2017-01-10 00:21:09] Apocalyptic : QuantFocus: but there is no "trading" involved in a pure bet
[2017-01-10 00:21:13] Apocalyptic : so why would it
[2017-01-10 00:21:33] QuantFocus : are you trying to get technical on a definition?
[2017-01-10 00:21:45] QuantFocus : trading and betting are practically the same
[2017-01-10 00:22:03] BitMEX_Sam : Except, in this case, it's not a bet, it's a trade, and functions like a trade; end of story
[2017-01-10 00:22:13] QuantFocus : cool, appreciate it
[2017-01-10 00:22:27] QuantFocus : thank you for your sage wisdom @Apocalyptic
[2017-01-10 00:24:21] Apocalyptic : np
[2017-01-10 00:24:42] QuantFocus : what's the leverage on the swap
[2017-01-10 00:24:43] QuantFocus : quick
[2017-01-10 00:25:06] yoloshi : dammit - b& on testnet
[2017-01-10 00:28:21] BitMEX_Sam : QuantFocus: http://i.imgur.com/KhqrWBq.png
[2017-01-10 00:28:41] QuantFocus : BitMEX_Sam: that was a joke
[2017-01-10 00:28:49] QuantFocus : but thanks again
[2017-01-10 00:47:04] odieoh : Quick!
[2017-01-10 00:51:09] odieoh : BitMEX_Sam, so is this prediction market thing going to happen or still being discussed?
[2017-01-10 00:52:00] rustiv : wow btc very bullish
[2017-01-10 00:54:10] BitMEX_Sam : odieoh: Still being discussed
[2017-01-10 00:56:10] odieoh : It would need to be very clearly worded so that if they just kick the can down the road again, that counts as a "didn't pass"
[2017-01-10 00:56:32] Apocalyptic : odieoh: afaik they can't
[2017-01-10 00:56:39] Apocalyptic : there is a maximum delay
[2017-01-10 00:56:56] odieoh : Trust them to find a way
[2017-01-10 00:57:18] sleger : the only way now is they cancel their motion and reapply
[2017-01-10 00:57:21] odieoh : it just needs to be worded to take that in to consideration-
[2017-01-10 00:57:23] sleger : which is pretty much a denial
[2017-01-10 00:57:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30 @ 904.93
[2017-01-10 00:57:54] Apocalyptic : sleger: fomo buidling up, still long ?
[2017-01-10 00:58:19] odieoh : It will be a way to save a lot of butthurt bettors if you specify that beforehand, the bet is on whether it is approved on that date, and any outcome other than "Yes it is approved" is a No.
[2017-01-10 00:58:20] sleger : i'll be long for a while
[2017-01-10 01:01:27] QuantFocus : odieoh: be very careful, it's a trade, not a bet
[2017-01-10 01:02:17] odieoh : Gotcha.
[2017-01-10 01:02:35] odieoh : (Yes I saw your conversation) :)
[2017-01-10 01:02:44] QuantFocus : :thumbsup:
[2017-01-10 01:04:38] QuantFocus : bbl
[2017-01-10 01:05:01] odieoh : That green candle just got an erection
[2017-01-10 01:05:11] Dtrade16 : damn
[2017-01-10 01:05:29] aandy : i closed my long early damnit lol
[2017-01-10 01:06:40] Dtrade16 : Me too
[2017-01-10 01:06:53] Dtrade16 : In 900 out 912
[2017-01-10 01:06:54] shiroe : we go 7k okc, within 3days :)
[2017-01-10 01:07:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 511 @ 910.77
[2017-01-10 01:07:47] Dtrade16 : shiroe: Do you have a price target for today?
[2017-01-10 01:07:50] Dtrade16 : 920s?
[2017-01-10 01:08:09] MikeHunt : ltc in a bubble?
[2017-01-10 01:08:14] Dtrade16 : Looking to reenter around 905-910
[2017-01-10 01:09:19] shiroe : Dtrade16: today? 940?
[2017-01-10 01:09:49] shiroe : if i will exit 940 then enter at that level.
[2017-01-10 01:11:29] gg : why are orders getting auto rejected and margin closed when price is clearly above that point?
[2017-01-10 01:11:46] itsyourboy : painful trying to close a LTC position...
[2017-01-10 01:11:50] itsyourboy : zzz
[2017-01-10 01:12:03] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: short or long?
[2017-01-10 01:12:46] itsyourboy : MikeHunt: long
[2017-01-10 01:13:13] KingTuna : short on low leverage
[2017-01-10 01:14:54] itsyourboy : KingTuna: will that close my position quicker?
[2017-01-10 01:16:19] MikeHunt : whale tail time to bail?
[2017-01-10 01:17:25] itsyourboy : MikeHunt: just need to sleep soon!
[2017-01-10 01:21:21] ayy_lmao : bearstamp y u fuck up mark
[2017-01-10 01:21:24] ayy_lmao : price
[2017-01-10 01:21:38] abbey : well, well, it happend what I expected while I was away for a moment.. nice
[2017-01-10 01:23:35] abbey : looking really good now
[2017-01-10 01:24:17] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: what did you buy at?
[2017-01-10 01:24:43] itsyourboy : .00476
[2017-01-10 01:25:07] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: you might want to exit sooner rather than later
[2017-01-10 01:25:13] MikeHunt : 1hr chart dont paint a pretty picture
[2017-01-10 01:25:31] Dtrade16 : I can't even sit down lol
[2017-01-10 01:25:48] Dtrade16 : shiroe: Nice
[2017-01-10 01:25:58] MikeHunt : this will probably crash like the bubble in december
[2017-01-10 01:26:01] itsyourboy : well been trying to close out but the orders just sat there
[2017-01-10 01:26:04] MikeHunt : down to 0.004
[2017-01-10 01:26:41] MikeHunt : maybe as low as 0.0035
[2017-01-10 01:26:48] abbey : ayy_lmao: stamps coming along, mate. don't worry
[2017-01-10 01:27:31] itsyourboy : MikeHunt: i cant do much when i set limit close at the current price and it just sits there...
[2017-01-10 01:27:34] Dtrade16 : LTC pump over?
[2017-01-10 01:29:04] KingTuna : Dtrade16: Just begun
[2017-01-10 01:30:33] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: Just like how btc was going to 500 yesterday?
[2017-01-10 01:31:17] KingTuna : It still will ... Both will die. BTC stagnant for now, LTC will rise, both will correct down within next couple of months
[2017-01-10 01:31:35] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: you cant sell?
[2017-01-10 01:33:00] MikeHunt : KingTuna: chart trend and MFI suggests LTC bubble is nearly over
[2017-01-10 01:34:02] itsyourboy : MikeHunt: sold, could have made about 3x what i did but that'll teach me for thinking i could get out quickly if needed
[2017-01-10 01:34:09] itsyourboy : volume is crazy low
[2017-01-10 01:34:25] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: thats why im shorting
[2017-01-10 01:34:33] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: long way down
[2017-01-10 01:34:34] ayy_lmao : stamp wut are you doing
[2017-01-10 01:35:17] itsyourboy : MikeHunt: yeah i could sleep with a short, can just market sell out
[2017-01-10 01:35:36] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: right
[2017-01-10 01:38:29] itsyourboy : Right, 10x LTC short open, can't see .00520 being hit at all for liquidation, i can sleep on that
[2017-01-10 01:38:36] itsyourboy : MikeHunt:
[2017-01-10 01:41:08] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: +1
[2017-01-10 01:41:24] MikeHunt : just keep an eye on btc thou, any major downwards move might trigger
[2017-01-10 01:41:24] itsyourboy : laters, good luck all
[2017-01-10 01:41:28] MikeHunt : set a stop just incase
[2017-01-10 01:43:08] rustiv : can i set a stop to a open long?
[2017-01-10 01:45:10] MikeHunt : rustiv: stop market
[2017-01-10 01:55:59] brojo : yes called a stop market or a stop limit
[2017-01-10 01:56:03] brojo : and you set it above the price
[2017-01-10 01:56:23] brojo : a stop market just goes sat the market price a stop limit enters a limit order once the stop is triggered
[2017-01-10 01:56:35] brojo : can be used to buy or sell at a > or a <
[2017-01-10 02:08:02] Dynamix : Well Fuck ive sold too early haha
[2017-01-10 02:08:54] XBT_IHCT : Dynamix: I did too man!
[2017-01-10 02:09:05] MikeHunt : usd/cny = already retraced 1/2 of losses
[2017-01-10 02:09:15] MikeHunt : cny going back in the toilet
[2017-01-10 02:11:32] Dynamix : I entered 100x at 889 then doesnt want to pump when I do shit it pumps lol
[2017-01-10 02:11:36] Dynamix : fuck this lol
[2017-01-10 02:12:05] aandy : damn risky move haha
[2017-01-10 02:13:20] micmix : Small UI bug - when you scroll expanded Instruments table the header doesn't scroll (latest Chrome) @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-01-10 02:15:16] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks micmix, will address that
[2017-01-10 02:18:02] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: oh yeh and sometimes the chart being displayed aint the right one for the page
[2017-01-10 02:18:24] BitMEX_Sam : MikeHunt: Yeah, that's a long-known issue, bug in TradingView we haven't been able to suss out
[2017-01-10 02:18:31] BitMEX_Sam : Eventual solution is to get a new chart
[2017-01-10 02:27:49] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: ive found switching from one tab and back fixes it
[2017-01-10 02:28:07] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it can. It needs to be sent messages repeatedly sometimes.
[2017-01-10 02:31:14] Dynamix : Is there any point longing btc now ?
[2017-01-10 02:33:51] Dynamix : BitMEX_Sam: how can i reset my whole chart ? Its full of indicators on mobile
[2017-01-10 02:34:10] Dynamix : can you tell someone at bitmex to fix it if not ?
[2017-01-10 02:34:33] FreeMoney : BitMEX_Sam: hey can I ask you a question about the fees?
[2017-01-10 02:35:09] Dynamix : Seems like hes not around
[2017-01-10 02:37:29] FreeMoney : If I trade 10million in the week, what could the person who referred me make?
[2017-01-10 02:41:38] KingTuna : itsyourboy: cover your short big boy ;)
[2017-01-10 02:41:49] KingTuna : LTC firin gon all cylinders
[2017-01-10 02:41:54] KingTuna : firing*
[2017-01-10 02:42:14] KingTuna : okcoin LTC on a roll
[2017-01-10 02:43:43] micmix : FreeMoney: 10m USD assuming always taker is $7500 in fees, referrer gets 20% of that on highest tier
[2017-01-10 02:49:26] evilminer : nice price movement. :-/
[2017-01-10 02:51:02] BitMEX_Greg : FreeMoney: Please take a look at: https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates#Affiliate-Payout-Structure
[2017-01-10 02:55:17] Dynamix : FreeMoney: You want to become my referral and I give you 50% ? :)
[2017-01-10 02:55:58] FreeMoney : Dynamix: nah I asked him If I could do myself and he siad no so ill just use my wife
[2017-01-10 02:56:24] Dynamix : FreeMoney: lol fair enough
[2017-01-10 02:56:38] Dynamix : wanted a few extra bucks there ?
[2017-01-10 03:01:46] XXXX : No sell orders after 0.0057 on LTC.?
[2017-01-10 03:08:18] Dtrade16 : Thank god god my money off of bitfinex
[2017-01-10 03:08:29] rowrow : something happen today?
[2017-01-10 03:08:42] Dtrade16 : Damn ltc ripped up
[2017-01-10 03:08:55] KingTuna : Dtrade16: ;)
[2017-01-10 03:10:05] Dtrade16 : 100k buy order on finex for LTC lol
[2017-01-10 03:10:08] Dtrade16 : at $4
[2017-01-10 03:10:21] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: You gotta dog in this fight? Lol
[2017-01-10 03:10:52] KingTuna : Dtrade16: haha we will see how this goes
[2017-01-10 03:11:16] FreeMoney : funding funding funding
[2017-01-10 03:12:00] Dtrade16 : BTC rally over back to 900
[2017-01-10 03:12:23] Dtrade16 : Where should I trade guys?
[2017-01-10 03:12:52] Dtrade16 : Any reputable exchanges that allow tether and leverage?
[2017-01-10 03:13:51] Dtrade16 : I'm not holding my money in btc
[2017-01-10 03:13:56] Dtrade16 : Craziest thing ever
[2017-01-10 03:14:46] XXXX : 7 day contracts settle on friday 12 UTC. when does the new 7 Day contract begin trading?
[2017-01-10 03:15:00] rowrow : aside from here, not too many options for leverage - maybe btce
[2017-01-10 03:15:31] XBT_IHCT : XXXX: right after settlement
[2017-01-10 03:15:49] XBT_IHCT : of the same instrument
[2017-01-10 03:16:28] XXXX : XBT_IHCT: thanks. It is annoying to be on desk at the exact time and reopen the same trade at slightly disadvantaged price point.
[2017-01-10 03:18:03] XBT_IHCT : XXXX: that's just the nature of the beast :)
[2017-01-10 03:18:12] Dynamix : Are we going down or nah ?
[2017-01-10 03:18:25] rowrow : could be, could be not
[2017-01-10 03:18:42] rowrow : gotta ask china
[2017-01-10 03:18:52] Dynamix : Not an answer
[2017-01-10 03:18:56] Dynamix : haha
[2017-01-10 03:18:58] Dynamix : yh yh
[2017-01-10 03:19:42] XBT_IHCT : Dynamix: I expect so but I'm really not sure, so I opened a really small hedged trade, with a really small short bias
[2017-01-10 03:20:02] Dynamix : Right
[2017-01-10 03:20:06] Dynamix : aight
[2017-01-10 03:25:41] Dynamix : Time to go down
[2017-01-10 03:28:54] Dtrade16 : rowrow: is btce legit though?
[2017-01-10 03:28:59] Dtrade16 : Don't they go down a lot?
[2017-01-10 03:31:58] rowrow : i haven't looked much into it recently, just know they have been around for a long time without any major negative events - which is more than most bitcoin exchanges can say
[2017-01-10 03:32:45] rowrow : there aren't really any perfect choices, if you want liquidity probably bitfinex is one of the best but not exactly a fan of them either
[2017-01-10 03:34:59] rowrow : though it's possible they've gotten hacked without disclosing it i suppose - if you want the least likely exchange to go belly up it's probably coinbase/gdax, don't think they offer leverage though
[2017-01-10 03:35:26] Dynamix : Btc falling hard
[2017-01-10 03:35:29] Dynamix : hehe
[2017-01-10 03:36:45] Crunkmeister : why am I unable to see my own orders in the order book? they get filled properly
[2017-01-10 03:36:48] Crunkmeister : but I don't see them in my UI
[2017-01-10 03:38:03] odieoh : Your own should be in bolded font
[2017-01-10 03:38:13] Crunkmeister : it was, earlier today, now it's gone entirely
[2017-01-10 03:38:31] odieoh : Well if they got filled they disappear :)
[2017-01-10 03:38:43] Crunkmeister : I understand, I'm talking new orders
[2017-01-10 03:40:45] Dtrade16 : rowrow: Thanks!
[2017-01-10 03:41:43] Dtrade16 : I love bitfinex but I just pulled my money off of there
[2017-01-10 03:41:57] Dtrade16 : Too risky now
[2017-01-10 03:42:20] Dtrade16 : Anyone short zec here?
[2017-01-10 03:44:24] rapidtrades : lol no
[2017-01-10 03:44:40] Dynamix : Well bitfinex how much lvg ?
[2017-01-10 03:44:44] l3f : Dtrade16: don't short zec
[2017-01-10 03:44:45] Dynamix : are there buys?
[2017-01-10 03:44:56] l3f : rapidtrades: you still hodling zec?
[2017-01-10 03:45:06] l3f : it's looks like it's gonna blow
[2017-01-10 03:45:16] Dtrade16 : l3f: Why?
[2017-01-10 03:45:48] Dtrade16 : I'd be stupid not too
[2017-01-10 03:46:38] Dynamix : Dump is not over
[2017-01-10 03:46:51] Dynamix : china moving down bitmex same place
[2017-01-10 03:47:37] Dynamix : Last trade was at 3:39
[2017-01-10 03:47:48] MikeHunt : how do you the maker fee instead of the taker fee?
[2017-01-10 03:48:03] ayy_lmao : limit orders
[2017-01-10 03:48:20] MikeHunt : ayy_lmao: ahh thanks
[2017-01-10 03:48:27] ayy_lmao : if you fill someones orders, you get a taker fee
[2017-01-10 03:48:32] ayy_lmao : if someone fills your, you get maker
[2017-01-10 03:48:48] MikeHunt : ayy_lmao: do you generally use limit orders?
[2017-01-10 03:48:53] ayy_lmao : but if you use a limit to buy the lowest bid, you still get taker
[2017-01-10 03:49:06] ayy_lmao : i switch
[2017-01-10 03:49:23] ayy_lmao : depends if i think i can get filled in the time i want to be filled
[2017-01-10 03:50:58] MikeHunt : ayy_lmao: ahh tanks
[2017-01-10 03:51:51] FreeMoney : is it possible for some people to make more money on the funding than their position P/L?
[2017-01-10 03:53:02] Guest56485 : hey! :)
[2017-01-10 03:54:28] Dtrade16 : l3f: You didn't say why not
[2017-01-10 04:06:55] ayy_lmao : bearstamp
[2017-01-10 04:08:26] anonymous123421 : So much for 900+
[2017-01-10 04:08:45] anonymous123421 : Hmm might recover
[2017-01-10 04:12:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 29500 @ 6544.0
[2017-01-10 04:24:25] XBT_IHCT : Crunkmeister: you still here?
[2017-01-10 04:24:36] Crunkmeister : YES
[2017-01-10 04:24:50] Crunkmeister : whats up?
[2017-01-10 04:25:03] XBT_IHCT : did you work out what was going on?
[2017-01-10 04:25:06] Crunkmeister : nope
[2017-01-10 04:25:24] Crunkmeister : it's pretty annoying, I haven't cleared my cache, also my carts seemed to stop working, I'll try clearing my cache later