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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-01-09 01:47:20] Apocalyptic : that's progress [2017-01-09 01:47:33] rapidtrades : i don't even know [2017-01-09 01:47:56] rapidtrades : i had 4 $70 higher [2017-01-09 01:48:26] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: big shorts opening for [2017-01-09 01:48:29] Apocalyptic : sure [2017-01-09 01:48:33] MikeHunt : does BTFD work? [2017-01-09 01:48:49] ytaews : yes but only when price goes back up [2017-01-09 01:49:11] MikeHunt : i was jsut wondering if anyone actually used it as a strategy with TA [2017-01-09 01:51:46] Rado2 : rapidtrades: where is your short from? [2017-01-09 01:52:54] shiroe : i am catching knives again. [2017-01-09 01:53:01] shiroe : wooo. scary [2017-01-09 01:55:20] rapidtrades : Rado2: doesn't matter, im almost flat [2017-01-09 01:55:35] rapidtrades : only short here [2017-01-09 01:55:37] Rado2 : rapidtrades: ok [2017-01-09 01:56:01] Rado2 : I have targets at 810, 780 and 760 [2017-01-09 01:56:15] Rado2 : will load up big on H17 around there [2017-01-09 01:56:28] rapidtrades : if 800 breaks it could drop hard [2017-01-09 01:56:49] Rado2 : 760-780 is big support [2017-01-09 01:57:05] shiroe : just follow okc, you will always be in profit . [2017-01-09 01:57:14] rapidtrades : nah its bit higher, june max price [2017-01-09 01:57:18] Rado2 : shiroe: how do you follow them? [2017-01-09 01:57:26] shiroe : Rado2: 100 increments. [2017-01-09 01:57:42] Rado2 : not following [2017-01-09 01:57:44] shiroe : if 6k breaks. [2017-01-09 01:57:50] shiroe : we can see 800. [2017-01-09 01:57:56] shiroe : if not, the bull returns. [2017-01-09 01:58:05] Rado2 : 800 is a given [2017-01-09 01:58:10] Rado2 : 880 broke down [2017-01-09 01:58:16] shiroe : dont price it on usd as china is moving the market. [2017-01-09 01:58:35] Rado2 : disagree on this one [2017-01-09 01:58:44] rapidtrades : yeah me too [2017-01-09 01:58:48] shiroe : even bots follow it. [2017-01-09 01:58:53] rapidtrades : US levels matter too [2017-01-09 01:59:01] ayy_lmao : guise [2017-01-09 01:59:25] shiroe : catched 863 865 867 [2017-01-09 01:59:33] shiroe : lets see if we go 6400 again. [2017-01-09 01:59:39] ayy_lmao : not looking to good [2017-01-09 02:00:24] shiroe : bought 6050 - 6100 okc, cutloss is 6k okc. lels [2017-01-09 02:00:25] arbitrage001 : good morning fellow trolls [2017-01-09 02:00:28] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing [2017-01-09 02:00:33] arbitrage001 : getting rich? [2017-01-09 02:00:52] rapidtrades : making so many off arbs [2017-01-09 02:00:56] Rado2 : arbitrage001: life is great [2017-01-09 02:01:00] Rado2 : don't need to get rich [2017-01-09 02:01:05] Rado2 : then it becomes shit [2017-01-09 02:01:07] Rado2 : lol [2017-01-09 02:01:17] arbitrage001 : indeed [2017-01-09 02:01:22] arbitrage001 : life is too good [2017-01-09 02:01:29] arbitrage001 : keep gaining weight for some reaons [2017-01-09 02:01:31] brojo : hey im long xbtusd i want to set a $5 trailing stop loss on the last trade [2017-01-09 02:01:39] arbitrage001 : reasons [2017-01-09 02:01:45] Rado2 : arbitrage001: all the shitty food you eat [2017-01-09 02:01:58] Rado2 : just stick to laksa [2017-01-09 02:02:00] botbotbot : can i set a trailing stop after my otder got filled ? [2017-01-09 02:02:00] QuantFocus : brojo: use the dropdown in the place order window [2017-01-09 02:02:01] brojo : its only letting me do set buy stop [2017-01-09 02:02:02] Rado2 : no western food [2017-01-09 02:02:08] arbitrage001 : Rado2: you are asian? [2017-01-09 02:02:10] brojo : i want to set sell stop [2017-01-09 02:02:13] brojo : i am long the position now [2017-01-09 02:02:17] shiroe : looking for a 950 breakout. [2017-01-09 02:02:18] Rado2 : arbitrage001: no [2017-01-09 02:02:25] arbitrage001 : how do you know laksa? [2017-01-09 02:02:26] QuantFocus : brojo: use a - [2017-01-09 02:02:33] Rado2 : I love it [2017-01-09 02:02:36] QuantFocus : minus [2017-01-09 02:02:51] arbitrage001 : when were you last in asia? [2017-01-09 02:02:56] Rado2 : we have Malaysian restaurants here [2017-01-09 02:03:09] Rado2 : arbitrage001: never [2017-01-09 02:03:14] Rado2 : but coming in March [2017-01-09 02:03:26] arbitrage001 : Rado2: i can assure you the taste is totally different [2017-01-09 02:03:40] Rado2 : better? [2017-01-09 02:03:44] arbitrage001 : much better in asia [2017-01-09 02:03:59] brojo : QuantFocus: minus on the price or the quantity [2017-01-09 02:04:10] QuantFocus : trigger price [2017-01-09 02:04:24] Rado2 : arbitrage001: great, can't wait to taste all the food [2017-01-09 02:04:33] arbitrage001 : yea, and gain weight [2017-01-09 02:06:14] arbitrage001 : so, finex didnt repay their debt this month [2017-01-09 02:06:19] arbitrage001 : ? [2017-01-09 02:06:28] QuantFocus : brojo: your trigger price is going to be + or - the distance away from the current price. i.e., $10 trailing sell stop use "-10" [2017-01-09 02:06:46] arbitrage001 : one can short finex by shorting btc [2017-01-09 02:06:46] brojo : cool i have a trailing stop of -5 [2017-01-09 02:07:02] QuantFocus : ok. that type of swing happens all the time [2017-01-09 02:07:07] QuantFocus : you'll probably get knocked out pretty quickly [2017-01-09 02:07:17] arbitrage001 : turbulance will be huge should finex gone bye bye [2017-01-09 02:07:27] Rado2 : brojo: 5? You will get taken out quickly [2017-01-09 02:07:29] brojo : i have close on trigger clicked --- so which ever one hits first other one is canceled correct? [2017-01-09 02:07:49] QuantFocus : yea [2017-01-09 02:08:07] brojo : yes im at a gain now so i want to see if it runs a bit and if not i want to exit [2017-01-09 02:08:57] brojo : this trailing stop tool is exellecnt also the stop limit i never new they existed [2017-01-09 02:09:43] brojo : soi on a trailign stop if we start at 800 and go to 810 then down to 805 and an i have $5 trailing stop it sells at 805 correct? [2017-01-09 02:09:53] brojo : each high brings the stop up [2017-01-09 02:10:08] QuantFocus : :+1: [2017-01-09 02:10:54] QuantFocus : 300 users rekt off bitmex for life in the last 7 days [2017-01-09 02:10:56] QuantFocus : :( [2017-01-09 02:11:38] QuantFocus : let us be grateful for their deposits [2017-01-09 02:11:54] arbitrage001 : QuantFocus: how can you tell? [2017-01-09 02:12:10] QuantFocus : had over 1000 users in chat pre-dump [2017-01-09 02:12:23] arbitrage001 : doesnt mean they get rekt off [2017-01-09 02:12:30] QuantFocus : obviously [2017-01-09 02:12:38] QuantFocus : but they aren't here. so where do you think they went? [2017-01-09 02:12:51] QuantFocus : probably jumped off a bridge somewhere [2017-01-09 02:12:56] arbitrage001 : made enough to retire off trading? [2017-01-09 02:12:58] brojo : we should design some sort of charting indicator on users [2017-01-09 02:13:04] brojo : also on the rekt long and shorts [2017-01-09 02:13:16] brojo : is there an api out put for that? [2017-01-09 02:13:16] QuantFocus : arbitrage001: no way man [2017-01-09 02:13:33] QuantFocus : nobody ever says "I made so much money, i'm so good at this I'm quitting" [2017-01-09 02:13:40] arbitrage001 : i would [2017-01-09 02:13:53] QuantFocus : they turn around and lose it on the next trade [2017-01-09 02:14:53] arbitrage001 : short btc when we have 1000+ users? [2017-01-09 02:14:58] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: finex spent last month's payback on Chrsitmas bonuses [2017-01-09 02:15:01] arbitrage001 : and long when we drop to 300 [2017-01-09 02:15:13] QuantFocus : arbitrage001: that's a good trading strat [2017-01-09 02:15:13] QuantFocus : honestly [2017-01-09 02:15:17] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: have a source? [2017-01-09 02:15:47] sero : whats your opinion for going short now?? [2017-01-09 02:15:51] rapidtrades : yeah they're shitty [2017-01-09 02:16:08] QuantFocus : ^^ [2017-01-09 02:16:14] QuantFocus : -_- [2017-01-09 02:16:32] shiroe : lol eth double top. [2017-01-09 02:17:02] arbitrage001 : sero: wont go short or long [2017-01-09 02:17:06] arbitrage001 : dangerous time to trade [2017-01-09 02:17:23] arbitrage001 : just sitting out and enhoy the show [2017-01-09 02:17:24] shiroe : it is ) [2017-01-09 02:17:24] happy : shiroe: Not Yet, this could be gap up [2017-01-09 02:17:31] shiroe : wait for 8more hours befre trading,. [2017-01-09 02:18:10] shiroe : happy: we need to test 0.01 floor for confirm bull on eth. [2017-01-09 02:18:16] happy : shiroe: ETH hasn't break 0.01147 support [2017-01-09 02:19:11] shiroe : happy: zoomout your chart. try 1month. [2017-01-09 02:19:19] Rado2 : give me 880 again [2017-01-09 02:19:38] sero : arbitrage001: i think yesterday's up trend was a correction of that large down trend what do you think?? sry for my bad english :) [2017-01-09 02:19:50] arbitrage001 : sero: no idea [2017-01-09 02:19:56] arbitrage001 : hence i am sitting out [2017-01-09 02:20:25] shiroe : always check 1 day /3day chart. [2017-01-09 02:22:22] sero : shiroe: on 3day chart of btcusd is that Engulfing?? [2017-01-09 02:23:06] shiroe : sero: bbands / ma seems good bouncing at this level, good time for long. [2017-01-09 02:23:23] shiroe : but try confirm in 3days again. [2017-01-09 02:26:04] shiroe : today is a dangerous day for both side. i think. caveat. [2017-01-09 02:26:21] brojo : hey i have a trailing stop on xbtusd at -5 i entered it at 878.50 [2017-01-09 02:26:34] brojo : it sshowing triggering price of 882.84 [2017-01-09 02:27:02] brojo : i want the stop loss under my price at -5 and as it inches up [2017-01-09 02:27:12] brojo : to move stop loss up [2017-01-09 02:27:19] brojo : and when it comes back 5 then sell the position [2017-01-09 02:27:51] brojo : it looks like its about to sell the position because it moved up $5 when i want it to just sell if it ever moves down $5 [2017-01-09 02:28:23] rapidtrades : u sure ur not short brah? [2017-01-09 02:28:25] Rado2 : brojo: that's not how trailing stop works [2017-01-09 02:28:58] rapidtrades : yes it is @Rado2 [2017-01-09 02:29:31] botbotbot : yeah that's how trailing stop works [2017-01-09 02:29:34] botbotbot : i just trying to figure out [2017-01-09 02:29:44] botbotbot : how to set up trailing stop on an existing order [2017-01-09 02:29:53] Rado2 : if it goes down with $5 you will get stopped out [2017-01-09 02:29:56] botbotbot : or i have to set as a separate "Trailing Stop" order on the left side [2017-01-09 02:29:59] Rado2 : it doesn't matter from what price [2017-01-09 02:30:13] Dtrade16 : Guys should I take out my money from finex? [2017-01-09 02:30:21] Rado2 : Dtrade16: yes [2017-01-09 02:30:27] shiroe : Dtrade16: yes [2017-01-09 02:30:27] Rado2 : why would you trade at finex [2017-01-09 02:30:28] rapidtrades : botbotbot: seperate yes [2017-01-09 02:30:40] Dtrade16 : Rado2: IDK [2017-01-09 02:30:51] Dtrade16 : It's better than polo [2017-01-09 02:30:52] rapidtrades : afaik all orders are still seperate but sl and tp are in the works [2017-01-09 02:30:54] Dtrade16 : I hate polo [2017-01-09 02:31:03] jose : Dtrade16: yes [2017-01-09 02:31:20] Dtrade16 : How do I trade on here? [2017-01-09 02:31:24] Dtrade16 : Do I need need btc? [2017-01-09 02:31:27] rapidtrades : Dtrade16: no keep em until u have 64% left then take them out [2017-01-09 02:31:38] Dtrade16 : Does this site accept teather? [2017-01-09 02:31:47] Dtrade16 : lol [2017-01-09 02:31:48] shiroe : btc only. [2017-01-09 02:32:06] Dtrade16 : I don't get it so I buy btc and then I buy more btc with that? [2017-01-09 02:32:34] Rado2 : Dtrade16: you buy futures [2017-01-09 02:32:46] Dtrade16 : With BTC [2017-01-09 02:32:52] Dtrade16 : It sounds so stupid [2017-01-09 02:32:56] Rado2 : it's not [2017-01-09 02:32:58] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: are you new here? i seen u a while around here but just started asking questions now [2017-01-09 02:33:00] Rado2 : it's brilliant [2017-01-09 02:33:10] Dtrade16 : There's no stability [2017-01-09 02:33:11] Rado2 : I don't want to sell my BTC for dollars [2017-01-09 02:33:21] shiroe : You buy xbt so you get a win called rekt! [2017-01-09 02:33:27] Rado2 : so my only option to trade my BTC is buy futures with BTC [2017-01-09 02:33:33] Rado2 : then I never have to sell my BTC [2017-01-09 02:33:46] Dtrade16 : Crazy [2017-01-09 02:34:10] Dtrade16 : There's no stable store of value [2017-01-09 02:34:24] Dtrade16 : I hate trading in btc [2017-01-09 02:34:26] MikeHunt : i used 0.0131 of my stash at $1k x100 at the dip, made 0.1 [2017-01-09 02:34:32] Dtrade16 : But I guess it's safer than finex [2017-01-09 02:34:47] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: you cant really protect the value in the traditional sense like on stamp.kraken [2017-01-09 02:34:59] Dtrade16 : No you can't [2017-01-09 02:35:02] shiroe : was ahmmm.. [2017-01-09 02:35:03] Dtrade16 : Which sucks [2017-01-09 02:35:11] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: supposing you have $1000 [2017-01-09 02:35:16] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: btc is free falling [2017-01-09 02:35:22] Rado : Dtrade16: what value do you want to protect [2017-01-09 02:35:32] Rado : you need to stop thinking in dollar terms [2017-01-09 02:35:32] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: you could buy $1k @ x100 to protect your $1k [2017-01-09 02:35:54] aandy : best protection is 100X everything you have [2017-01-09 02:36:20] MikeHunt : paying $10 to protect $1k is worth it imo [2017-01-09 02:36:41] Dtrade16 : Lol [2017-01-09 02:37:24] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: also if ur really anal about, keep a small stash here to play with and keep rest in stunk/krapen/finex [2017-01-09 02:37:29] Dtrade16 : Damn Bitfinex, they have such a sweet site, too bad they're shady af [2017-01-09 02:37:29] shiroe : new business idea, insured bitcoins. [2017-01-09 02:37:29] MikeHunt : about ait* [2017-01-09 02:37:41] shiroe : keep 50 50. [2017-01-09 02:37:45] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: the next gox apparently [2017-01-09 02:37:46] shiroe : then do x50 here. [2017-01-09 02:37:54] shiroe : you win! [2017-01-09 02:38:21] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Yah they're shady as hell [2017-01-09 02:38:27] Dtrade16 : Gotta take my money out asap [2017-01-09 02:38:33] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: complacent on security, shady, not good [2017-01-09 02:38:38] shiroe : once hacked, never trust them. [2017-01-09 02:38:44] Dtrade16 : Yah true [2017-01-09 02:38:52] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: i dont trust btc-e for that reason as well even though they have a good track record so far [2017-01-09 02:39:03] MikeHunt : (seem shady) [2017-01-09 02:39:08] Dtrade16 : I was doing arbitrage between polo and finex cause they both have teather [2017-01-09 02:39:08] jose : kraken [2017-01-09 02:39:17] MikeHunt : jose: +1 [2017-01-09 02:39:28] MikeHunt : bitstamp does the anal quiz so u wanna avoid them too [2017-01-09 02:39:47] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Nice [2017-01-09 02:40:09] Dtrade16 : Tether [2017-01-09 02:40:17] MikeHunt : kraken is the most open and reliable for storage of $$$ imo, bitmex is probably best for trading thou as low fees n leverage [2017-01-09 02:40:25] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: what quiz ? [2017-01-09 02:40:43] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/246mlg/bitstamp_blocking_accounts_with_some_know_your/ [2017-01-09 02:40:44] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: What about polo? [2017-01-09 02:40:47] Dtrade16 : Polo is good too [2017-01-09 02:40:58] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: dunno, i have an account but not really used em [2017-01-09 02:41:11] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: usually shitcoins are already PnD-ed by time they show up there [2017-01-09 02:41:42] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Well they were hacked for like 25k but they paid back the user [2017-01-09 02:41:48] Dtrade16 : Apparently [2017-01-09 02:41:52] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: which shit-tokens [2017-01-09 02:41:56] MikeHunt : with* [2017-01-09 02:42:00] Dtrade16 : BTC [2017-01-09 02:42:06] Dtrade16 : Not shit tokens [2017-01-09 02:42:38] shiroe : seems bounce is rejected huh. [2017-01-09 02:42:47] shiroe : hmm.. [2017-01-09 02:42:58] ayy_lmao : core [2017-01-09 02:43:02] Dtrade16 : shiroe: Your target is 950? [2017-01-09 02:43:09] l3f : Lol it's a H&S [2017-01-09 02:43:10] l3f : it's over [2017-01-09 02:43:21] shiroe : Dtrade16: cutloss 5 dollar down at 860 [2017-01-09 02:43:25] l3f : going to 800 now [2017-01-09 02:43:42] arezki : no [2017-01-09 02:43:47] arezki : 910 [2017-01-09 02:43:47] Dtrade16 : shiroe: You're short? [2017-01-09 02:43:48] arezki : go [2017-01-09 02:43:54] shiroe : Dtrade16: long 865 [2017-01-09 02:43:59] Dtrade16 : Ok [2017-01-09 02:44:01] Dtrade16 : Nice [2017-01-09 02:44:05] Dtrade16 : Long 901 [2017-01-09 02:44:31] MikeHunt : shiroe: megaphone pattern = bearish [2017-01-09 02:44:40] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: "Bitfinex responded to the hack by implementing a socialized loss strategy. Every Bitfinex account will receive a 36.067% haircut to manage the losses and keep the exchange solvent. To compensate for the loss, Bitfinex will be issuing out a BFX tokens that will record the debt and may be redeemable for company stock in the future. " [2017-01-09 02:44:56] Dtrade16 : On balance volume going higher on daily and 12 h [2017-01-09 02:45:27] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: I remember [2017-01-09 02:45:42] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: Who knows, they were probably behind the whole thing [2017-01-09 02:45:56] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: all i know is socialized = socialism and socialism i bad [2017-01-09 02:45:58] Dtrade16 : 60 mill like it was nothing [2017-01-09 02:46:06] Dtrade16 : That's unbelievable [2017-01-09 02:46:31] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: correct way would be too pay it back + interest from profits and leave other accounts alone [2017-01-09 02:46:38] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: or not get hacked in first place [2017-01-09 02:47:40] Dtrade16 : Shady mofos [2017-01-09 02:47:48] Dtrade16 : I'm getting my money off of there [2017-01-09 02:48:33] MikeHunt : ive seen this pattern before [2017-01-09 02:48:42] MikeHunt : arch [2017-01-09 02:48:45] MikeHunt : usually bullish [2017-01-09 02:49:26] Dtrade16 : Do you guys pay attention to on balance volume? [2017-01-09 02:49:55] Dtrade16 : It suggests that people have been buying since that dip [2017-01-09 02:49:56] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: as much as i can [2017-01-09 02:50:02] Dtrade16 : At least I think it does [2017-01-09 02:50:15] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: the issue is this whole thing may fall soon [2017-01-09 02:50:17] MikeHunt : down to 800 [2017-01-09 02:50:21] MikeHunt : so dont wanna get stuck up here [2017-01-09 02:50:45] Dtrade16 : Well if people are buying eventually it will have to go back up [2017-01-09 02:50:49] Dtrade16 : But yah [2017-01-09 02:51:16] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: i advise against emotional trading [2017-01-09 02:51:21] MikeHunt : herd mentality [2017-01-09 02:51:22] MikeHunt : etc. [2017-01-09 02:51:39] Dtrade16 : MikeHunt: What do you mean? [2017-01-09 02:52:09] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: analogy: the boats on titanic were largely empty because people though just because it was ok, it'd always be ok [2017-01-09 02:52:20] Dtrade16 : I'm not emotionally trading, hope I'm not [2017-01-09 02:52:21] MikeHunt : 1500 people were wrong [2017-01-09 02:52:46] MikeHunt : while u may not freeze to death, ur wallet might [2017-01-09 02:52:51] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: well herd trading as well [2017-01-09 02:53:00] MikeHunt : HTF's generally slaughter them [2017-01-09 02:53:17] Dtrade16 : HTF? [2017-01-09 02:53:44] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: bots, high frequency trading [2017-01-09 02:55:50] arezki : MikeHunt: Has you tested a trading robot? [2017-01-09 02:56:12] MikeHunt : arezki: no, but im thinking about making one since i can code [2017-01-09 02:56:24] MikeHunt : arezki: and it might actually be more disciplined than i am ;) [2017-01-09 02:57:14] arezki : Ok well, me too i want, may i do not know how it works the code: / [2017-01-09 02:57:30] MikeHunt : arezki: you need to learn how to program? [2017-01-09 02:57:43] arezki : MikeHunt: YES [2017-01-09 02:58:03] MikeHunt : arezki: the bitmex sample is done in python [2017-01-09 02:58:08] MikeHunt : i suggest learning python [2017-01-09 02:59:52] MikeHunt : arezki: https://www.learnpython.org [2017-01-09 02:59:53] arezki : MikeHunt: ok thanks sir [2017-01-09 03:00:01] MikeHunt : np [2017-01-09 03:00:14] arezki : :) [2017-01-09 03:01:17] herpinator : is there a way to get an email notification upon a position closing? [2017-01-09 03:05:02] Dtrade16 : What are the chinese doing? [2017-01-09 03:05:10] Dtrade16 : Are they on vaca? [2017-01-09 03:05:25] Dtrade16 : Yuan is going down buy buy buy [2017-01-09 03:08:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 242 @ 6446.4 [2017-01-09 03:11:42] 16longbtc : Haha socialism is bad. Sure it is ??? cos capitalism has worked wonders for the world so far. Socialism is great. People are bad. [2017-01-09 03:11:51] 16longbtc : Moron [2017-01-09 03:12:09] 16longbtc : But finex are crooks [2017-01-09 03:12:18] MikeHunt : 16longbtc: “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” ― Socrates [2017-01-09 03:12:56] KingTuna : BTC is going down to $500 imo over a couple of months [2017-01-09 03:13:00] KingTuna : ETH not such a bad hedge [2017-01-09 03:13:11] MikeHunt : KingTuna: mEth is bad for you [2017-01-09 03:13:13] KingTuna : No one talking about ETH and is slowly creeping up [2017-01-09 03:13:15] jedisatoshi : KingTuna: get the hell out of here with that shit [2017-01-09 03:13:24] KingTuna : lol [2017-01-09 03:13:48] KingTuna : I just like to make money, [2017-01-09 03:14:05] MikeHunt : KingTuna: creeping up your ass [2017-01-09 03:15:29] ytaews : The 'predicted funding rate' -- is the formula for this published, and are the values accessible via the API? [2017-01-09 03:17:21] MikeHunt : ytaews: look under refences [2017-01-09 03:17:50] MikeHunt : ytaews: down bottom of fees page [2017-01-09 03:20:12] amirmass : dump it [2017-01-09 03:21:41] ytaews : MikeHunt: Do you mean the paragraph that explains what funding is? [2017-01-09 03:26:42] MikeHunt : ytaews: should have formula there [2017-01-09 03:28:38] ytaews : the swaps guide has the formula for the funding rate, but I want to know about how bitmex 'predicts' the funding rate [2017-01-09 03:30:34] MikeHunt : ytaews: probably have to ask an admin for that [2017-01-09 03:31:06] ytaews : ya [2017-01-09 03:32:12] BitMEX_Arthur : It's backwards looking, so every minute we record the premium or discount, and we take all observations between funding periods and project a number based on that [2017-01-09 03:32:36] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBTUSDPI [2017-01-09 03:32:48] BitMEX_Arthur : You can construct the same prediction using those values [2017-01-09 03:33:22] ytaews : so is it just the average of the values in the 8hr window so far? [2017-01-09 03:33:32] BitMEX_Arthur : The `.XBTUSDPI` feeds into the `.XBTUSDPI8H` which is a Time Weighted Average Price over the past 8 hours [2017-01-09 03:34:13] ytaews : yep so say 4hrs into an 8hr window is it just the average of the last 240 snaps? [2017-01-09 03:35:42] BitMEX_Arthur : correct [2017-01-09 03:35:50] ytaews : okay, thanks :) [2017-01-09 03:36:30] aethlios : traders what's in the charts now?? consolidatoion and slow up?? [2017-01-09 03:38:01] Rado2 : aethlios: slow up to 890-900 and then dump hard [2017-01-09 03:38:37] aethlios : how hard? new lows below 800? or higher low?? [2017-01-09 03:40:03] KingTuna : China curbing capital flight... Warnings warnings - Down to $500 [2017-01-09 03:40:11] Rado2 : BitMEX_Arthur: any way to get a value of volatility index? [2017-01-09 03:40:13] KingTuna : Short this slut [2017-01-09 03:40:44] Rado2 : or any plans BitMEX will create one for the instruments so we can call it from the API [2017-01-09 03:40:55] MikeHunt : KingTuna: in a triangle, whale could tip it up [2017-01-09 03:41:25] KingTuna : MikeHunt: I get the impression the MM has exited [2017-01-09 03:41:50] MikeHunt : KingTuna: its sorta hovering in the middle, bit of a gamble [2017-01-09 03:42:00] ytaews : Rado2: you can query .BVOL from the api [2017-01-09 03:42:12] cxche : hey [2017-01-09 03:43:02] Rado2 : ytaews: is there a link where I can see current values? [2017-01-09 03:43:57] ytaews : bitmex pushes one snap a day, so if you query most recent .bvol snap it's the volatility from the last 30 days [2017-01-09 03:46:12] Rado2 : ytaews: that is not good enough for me [2017-01-09 03:46:32] Rado2 : I need real time volatility [2017-01-09 03:46:58] ytaews : Then just calculate it yourself, the formula is on the .BVOL index page under contracts [2017-01-09 03:49:16] Rado2 : ytaews: thanks [2017-01-09 03:50:44] ytaews : np [2017-01-09 03:51:08] StanTheMan : pumping and dumping [2017-01-09 03:51:12] Rado2 : ytaews: looks like the price is taken every 5 min for the 24h index [2017-01-09 03:51:14] Rado2 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.BVOL24H [2017-01-09 03:51:47] ytaews : yep [2017-01-09 03:52:59] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/HVZI0vUD/ yuan back up again, PBOC didn't do a lot [2017-01-09 03:54:03] Dtrade16 : Rado2: What are you looking at that suggests we're going to 800s? [2017-01-09 04:01:44] MikeHunt : aethlios: most incompetant governments only do enough to cater to public sentiment [2017-01-09 04:09:00] aethlios : usdcnh above 7 could create again a panic run in btc. [2017-01-09 04:09:15] Yazz : Media in China has been reporting that BTC is dangerous, not supported by the gov, and ppl should worry about losing their money. Some outlets even saying it is illegal. Scaring mums and dads out. [2017-01-09 04:09:58] MikeHunt : Yazz: damn [2017-01-09 04:10:12] MikeHunt : Yazz: without china factor this could drop a lot lower [2017-01-09 04:12:52] Yazz : My GF is Chinese (I lived there for 6 yrs). She says that most online news hits are still about BTC making money instead of why it is bad. But yes, if ppl get scared out by gov then that could be problematic. [2017-01-09 04:13:22] MikeHunt : Yazz: question is whether avg chinese person believes it or not [2017-01-09 04:14:25] Yazz : MikeHunt: avg Chinese would. Most savvy Chinese that would actually use it to expatriate money prob would not. [2017-01-09 04:15:18] jedisatoshi : Most of the Chinese are skeptical about the Gov. If they are being told BTC is bad chances are they will by it for that reason alone [2017-01-09 04:16:00] Papou : We will see a Bitcoin bullrun soon [2017-01-09 04:16:15] Papou : should test 1000 again [2017-01-09 04:16:34] jedisatoshi : Papou: Thats where my money is [2017-01-09 04:16:44] Papou : this is just a overreaction plus a big bear trap [2017-01-09 04:16:57] Papou : Bitcoin needs a big year in 2017 [2017-01-09 04:17:14] jedisatoshi : Papou: exactly and many are selling.. even shorting. poor bastards [2017-01-09 04:18:49] KingTuna : This is going down. Pump is over [2017-01-09 04:18:50] KingTuna : Have no doubt [2017-01-09 04:19:06] jedisatoshi : lol its not a pump [2017-01-09 04:20:05] Papou : big league money behind it dude. Start averaging down longs [2017-01-09 04:20:21] zanza : so cheap coinz? [2017-01-09 04:20:37] Papou : Bitcoin isn't failing [2017-01-09 04:20:53] Papou : and it isn't going to lose all it gained [2017-01-09 04:21:05] Papou : 850+ are amazing longs [2017-01-09 04:21:20] Papou : Keep me open until 1000+ [2017-01-09 04:23:31] KingTuna : lol right [2017-01-09 04:25:27] Dtrade16 : Just another pump and dump [2017-01-09 04:25:39] Papou : We will bounce to 920 for sure to short squeeze [2017-01-09 04:25:49] Papou : that's still great profit [2017-01-09 04:25:56] jedisatoshi : im thinking its the opposite this is a dump and pump to come [2017-01-09 04:26:05] Dtrade16 : Wales are spending everyones cash right now, they'll be back after vaca to push up the market [2017-01-09 04:26:43] Dtrade16 : :D [2017-01-09 04:29:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 600 @ 902.74 [2017-01-09 04:32:24] larrybanky1 : hi All [2017-01-09 04:32:33] larrybanky1 : Pls advise when to buy [2017-01-09 04:32:50] Dtrade16 : Around 1100ish [2017-01-09 04:33:14] Chewie : wait for it.... [2017-01-09 04:33:17] Chewie : wait.... [2017-01-09 04:33:20] Chewie : NOW! [2017-01-09 04:33:25] Dtrade16 : Lol [2017-01-09 04:33:46] larrybanky1 : Dtrade16: I've lost much [2017-01-09 04:33:46] KingTuna : Around $500 [2017-01-09 04:33:54] KingTuna : In 2 months time [2017-01-09 04:34:04] KingTuna : Then up again [2017-01-09 04:34:15] KingTuna : BTC is a pump n dump tool [2017-01-09 04:34:19] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: Bud even with a hack it didn't hit 500 [2017-01-09 04:34:23] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: Good luck [2017-01-09 04:34:49] Apocalyptic : Dtrade16: it hit $460 with the bitfinex hack [2017-01-09 04:35:05] Dtrade16 : From how much? [2017-01-09 04:35:18] KingTuna : There will be another pump in a few months, then it will be stopped by a hack or a PBOC annoucement or some fake insider bs LOL [2017-01-09 04:35:20] KingTuna : PnD [2017-01-09 04:35:37] Apocalyptic : how's that relevant ? you claimed "even with a hack it didn't hit 500" [2017-01-09 04:36:25] Dtrade16 : Apocalyptic: It hit 560 from mid 7s [2017-01-09 04:36:46] Dtrade16 : It didn't it hit 560? [2017-01-09 04:36:51] Dtrade16 : It didn't hit 460 [2017-01-09 04:37:26] Apocalyptic : it did, check bitstamp on August, 2nd [2017-01-09 04:37:33] Dtrade16 : KingTuna: So why you saying 500s then? [2017-01-09 04:37:37] Dtrade16 : From 1100s come on [2017-01-09 04:37:53] Apocalyptic : Bitcoinwisdom shows $465.28 exactly for the low [2017-01-09 04:37:57] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: dont listen to that shit bro [2017-01-09 04:38:00] Dtrade16 : Was that the avg price though? [2017-01-09 04:38:05] jedisatoshi : straight FUD [2017-01-09 04:38:12] KingTuna : Check the charts, from the last run up to $1100+ . Also $500 is break even /profit for miners [2017-01-09 04:38:16] jedisatoshi : i agree we will get a dip but 500 my ass [2017-01-09 04:38:27] Apocalyptic : lol average, [2017-01-09 04:38:28] jedisatoshi : im adding to my long [2017-01-09 04:38:34] Apocalyptic : you guys... [2017-01-09 04:38:36] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: I know that's crazy [2017-01-09 04:38:41] larrybanky1 : jedisatoshi: so what price shd one look out for [2017-01-09 04:38:51] KingTuna : Look at the end of the day, no one knows, except the insiders.. But this is what I expect [2017-01-09 04:38:53] jedisatoshi : 850 [2017-01-09 04:39:04] larrybanky1 : thanks [2017-01-09 04:39:58] Dtrade16 : The dnp commit needs you to keep trading man [2017-01-09 04:40:07] Dtrade16 : They aint gonna pull the floor on the damn thing [2017-01-09 04:40:11] jedisatoshi : if it breaks 850 who knows but i doubt it will go past 780 and if it does break 850 anytime could be a quick bounce so im setting limit buys all the way down in hopes for a flash crash but you better believe it will bounce right back [2017-01-09 04:40:16] Dtrade16 : They won't make any more money afterward [2017-01-09 04:40:18] jedisatoshi : this has happened over and over again [2017-01-09 04:40:46] jedisatoshi : we didnt make it all this way for nothing especially over some china rumors [2017-01-09 04:40:47] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Yep [2017-01-09 04:41:37] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Notice it's always bad "news" at the highest possible price [2017-01-09 04:41:56] Dtrade16 : Look at all the run ups, why don't we have bad news around low price levels [2017-01-09 04:42:04] jedisatoshi : best time to buy is when people are scared [2017-01-09 04:42:09] Dtrade16 : We typically don't [2017-01-09 04:42:45] Dtrade16 : Yah tuna give me your coins for 600 rn then, you'll save some money [2017-01-09 04:44:06] amirmass : the bulls about to take us to 1000 [2017-01-09 04:44:10] amirmass : are you ready? [2017-01-09 04:44:48] Dtrade16 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr2tjMnDmB4 [2017-01-09 04:45:57] amirmass : i will come back in 48 hours to say i hold you [2017-01-09 04:45:59] amirmass : hahaha [2017-01-09 04:46:09] amirmass : see ya guys [2017-01-09 04:46:11] amirmass : goodluck [2017-01-09 04:48:13] Dtrade16 : UNTIL THE CLIENT, EITHER BUYS... OR FUCKING DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIES [2017-01-09 04:48:24] Dtrade16 : Youtube is so funny lol [2017-01-09 04:50:53] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: thanks again for the trader reference pretty good documentary! [2017-01-09 04:52:19] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Np, glad you liked it [2017-01-09 04:52:54] Dtrade16 : Trading was crazy back then, they still do it like that right? [2017-01-09 04:54:59] jedisatoshi : not really things are alot different now [2017-01-09 04:55:20] jedisatoshi : that was the year i was born so a little before my time [2017-01-09 04:55:44] jedisatoshi : but i have talked to some old timers about how trading was back in the day and it seemed alot easier to be honest [2017-01-09 04:56:44] jedisatoshi : the market was nowhere near as efficient as it is now. alot more opportunity for arbitrage and volatility [2017-01-09 04:57:09] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Well the good thing about it was they were all together, now you're just behind some screen trading against some bot [2017-01-09 04:57:28] Dtrade16 : For sure [2017-01-09 04:57:55] Dtrade16 : See the part where he shorted oil on the opec deal? [2017-01-09 04:58:35] jedisatoshi : yeah that was epic [2017-01-09 04:59:17] Dtrade16 : Yep [2017-01-09 05:01:37] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: How much you think that costs? [2017-01-09 05:02:05] Dtrade16 : He said he sold 4 oil tankers worth lol [2017-01-09 05:02:16] Dtrade16 : What a savage lol [2017-01-09 05:03:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 886.47 [2017-01-09 05:03:43] Dtrade16 : Think it was like 80 million [2017-01-09 05:03:58] MikeHunt : i think we might actually break this big triangle [2017-01-09 05:04:09] Dtrade16 : Let's go! [2017-01-09 05:05:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 3000 @ 921.69 [2017-01-09 05:05:32] rowrow : china's right back where it was when i woke up today, bitmex down about $5 [2017-01-09 05:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 890.91 [2017-01-09 05:06:52] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: i couldnt tall you lol alot [2017-01-09 05:07:52] aethlios : watch the currency market, usdcnh eurusd and DXY, also the yuan bitcoin premium in usd. [2017-01-09 05:09:03] jedisatoshi : well theres the bounce now lets continue our ascent [2017-01-09 05:09:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6500 @ 892.36 [2017-01-09 05:09:41] jedisatoshi : REKT them shorts [2017-01-09 05:12:42] aethlios : I think we have to go up if usdcnh keeps going up, watch for usdcnh 7 break. [2017-01-09 05:13:08] aethlios : this could create a run in btc. [2017-01-09 05:13:56] MikeHunt : 6320 and we are home free i think [2017-01-09 05:24:14] aethlios : remember a few days ago overconfidence about never will see 1,000 again etc. now the opposite happens. [2017-01-09 05:24:35] Apocalyptic : aethlios: you turned long now ? [2017-01-09 05:24:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1600 @ 895.00 [2017-01-09 05:24:53] Dtrade16 : aethlios: We haven't seen it yet [2017-01-09 05:25:41] aethlios : Apocalyptic: yes 865 march, bassically bought back the position i had from 575 (sold early 1008 march) [2017-01-09 05:26:42] Apocalyptic : aethlios: I think I'll wait for 700s [2017-01-09 05:27:55] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/T2D9V29W/ [2017-01-09 05:28:01] aethlios : previous charts of mine [2017-01-09 05:28:26] jedisatoshi : aethlios: I can agree with that sir [2017-01-09 05:28:29] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/hFXKZoiv/ [2017-01-09 05:28:52] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/OVTsRVzH/ [2017-01-09 05:29:15] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/cu1a4OGl/ this published a few hours before crash [2017-01-09 05:29:37] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/QAt7ES1s/ this before the rally startsd [2017-01-09 05:29:48] Apocalyptic : aethlios: that support around $770 looks good [2017-01-09 05:29:58] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/GxnvyMVJ/ and this is my prediction for 2017. [2017-01-09 05:30:31] aethlios : I am betting on the last chart, will sell now above 2,000 when I find an overbought area [2017-01-09 05:30:45] MikeHunt : aethlios: +1 [2017-01-09 05:31:11] Papou : +2 [2017-01-09 05:31:39] Papou : I predict ETF passing and Bitcoin moons [2017-01-09 05:31:40] aethlios : Next big move is 850-2,000 or up to 2,500, then crash above ATH 1,200. [2017-01-09 05:32:13] MikeHunt : aethlios: so you think $770 then 850-2000 or? [2017-01-09 05:32:45] elmorte : When is the ETF decision?