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[2017-01-08 18:27:43] rowrow : kinda odd choices to track it with though, *shrug*
[2017-01-08 18:28:45] johndoe : it used include bitfinex, but they dropped finex from the index after the bitfinex hack last summer
[2017-01-08 18:30:06] rowrow : guess that's sorta understandable, but people are clearly still using it
[2017-01-08 18:30:35] Dtrade16 : How the hell does my stop always get hit
[2017-01-08 18:30:40] Dtrade16 : Some bs
[2017-01-08 18:31:42] jung1 : damn sia is going to overtake xrp volume on polo
[2017-01-08 18:32:16] FreeMoney : anyway to check total traded btc and fees?
[2017-01-08 18:32:41] BitMEX_Sam : Dtrade16: You must mean on some other market
[2017-01-08 18:32:51] Dtrade16 : finex
[2017-01-08 18:33:02] BitMEX_Sam : FreeMoney: We don't have an aggregation, but you can download your trade history
[2017-01-08 18:35:57] FreeMoney : can we get it added?
[2017-01-08 18:36:13] BitMEX_Sam : We'll add it to our development list
[2017-01-08 18:36:42] FreeMoney : would be awesome to easily see our trade volume, fees and performance over perid
[2017-01-08 18:37:20] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: what is on the top of your list?
[2017-01-08 18:39:05] FreeMoney : BitMEX_Sam: if I referred someone, what would they be paid based on my current trading ?
[2017-01-08 18:39:22] QuantFocus : @rowrow https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT
[2017-01-08 18:39:28] FreeMoney : and can you refer yourself?
[2017-01-08 18:41:54] QuantFocus : http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2017-01-08 18:41:57] BitMEX_Sam : FreeMoney: You are paid based on the volume of your referrals, not the other way around
[2017-01-08 18:42:03] BitMEX_Sam : And no, you cannot refer yourself
[2017-01-08 18:42:26] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: We're working on a few new products and some backend refactorings, mobile improvements, etc as well as building out the team
[2017-01-08 18:44:05] rowrow : QuantFocus: thanks
[2017-01-08 18:44:20] FreeMoney : BitMEX_Sam: someone planned t operate your social media?
[2017-01-08 18:45:12] BitMEX_Sam : We already do that internally
[2017-01-08 18:46:34] QuantFocus : what positions are you looking to fill?
[2017-01-08 18:47:33] BitMEX_Sam : We're hiring a customer support position and two developer positions; one frontend, one backend.
[2017-01-08 18:47:50] QuantFocus : ah cool
[2017-01-08 18:48:04] Dynamix : going upp :D
[2017-01-08 18:48:11] premium_freak : BitMEX_Sam: what languages/frameworks do you use on the backend?
[2017-01-08 18:48:16] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: customer support on trollbox?
[2017-01-08 18:50:39] BitMEX_Sam : premium_freak: Our HTTP servers are Node, the backend trading systems are kdb+/q
[2017-01-08 18:50:47] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Mostly via email, but trollbox is part of the job
[2017-01-08 18:51:06] premium_freak : BitMEX_Sam: I know node.js, never heard of the other ones
[2017-01-08 18:51:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 38042 @ 907.25
[2017-01-08 18:51:33] ayy_lmao : trading engine?
[2017-01-08 18:52:02] QuantFocus : yea the choo choo train
[2017-01-08 18:52:15] QuantFocus : it makes the price go up and down
[2017-01-08 18:53:51] QuantFocus : manages rekts
[2017-01-08 18:59:26] imacrappytrader : if i get liquidated im going to cry
[2017-01-08 19:00:19] sleger : why you trade with that name ?
[2017-01-08 19:00:28] imacrappytrader : cause its tru bruh
[2017-01-08 19:02:47] MikeHunt : general direction should be up
[2017-01-08 19:03:08] imacrappytrader : hopefully not cause im shorting
[2017-01-08 19:03:13] imacrappytrader : 50x LOL
[2017-01-08 19:03:21] imacrappytrader : bout to get liquidated i can feel it
[2017-01-08 19:05:33] mariomarco : MikeHunt: +1
[2017-01-08 19:05:46] MikeHunt : imacrappytrader: oh dear
[2017-01-08 19:05:52] MikeHunt : imacrappytrader: how much btc at risk?
[2017-01-08 19:06:02] imacrappytrader : just closed my position fk it
[2017-01-08 19:06:10] imacrappytrader : i was the 20k person lol
[2017-01-08 19:06:30] MikeHunt : 400$ ?
[2017-01-08 19:06:34] imacrappytrader : yea
[2017-01-08 19:06:56] MikeHunt : it may go down temporarily but this thing even in 4hr looks very bullish
[2017-01-08 19:07:04] MikeHunt : and china pump due in a few hours
[2017-01-08 19:09:20] rowrow : i think in the very short term it's almost completely random whether a china pump or dump is coming, though the size of said dump/pump probably isn't as random
[2017-01-08 19:09:21] premium_freak : imacrappytrader: you lost $20k?
[2017-01-08 19:09:55] sleger : 907.53 20000
[2017-01-08 19:11:37] Dynamix : common pump where you going haha
[2017-01-08 19:12:16] MikeHunt : my need another bounce to clear the big triangle
[2017-01-08 19:12:22] MikeHunt : might*
[2017-01-08 19:13:22] MikeHunt : quite a few sell orders around 6300, whale might want those
[2017-01-08 19:17:06] Dynamix : MikeHunt: nahh, its going to bounce
[2017-01-08 19:20:47] Dynamix : fomo up
[2017-01-08 19:26:12] nOgAnOo : Good morning all
[2017-01-08 19:26:15] nOgAnOo : I am back from Church
[2017-01-08 19:26:22] nOgAnOo : Bruce VanNatta was speaking
[2017-01-08 19:26:25] nOgAnOo : What a blessing!
[2017-01-08 19:26:36] Boontjie : Was he sane?
[2017-01-08 19:26:48] Boontjie : VanNatta :D
[2017-01-08 19:26:50] nOgAnOo : He was talking about coke and weed and all kinds of cool stuff
[2017-01-08 19:26:57] nOgAnOo : I was like "YEAH!"
[2017-01-08 19:27:18] nOgAnOo : The audio sermon will be available within a couple days
[2017-01-08 19:29:32] sleger : what $ are you starting from today ?
[2017-01-08 19:32:14] premium_freak : sleger: should be $25 if he hasn't lost my donation yet
[2017-01-08 19:32:29] sleger : you sent him money ?
[2017-01-08 19:32:35] premium_freak : yeah
[2017-01-08 19:32:40] sleger : generous !
[2017-01-08 19:32:41] premium_freak : I was bored yesterday :x
[2017-01-08 19:32:52] sleger : and he is entertaining
[2017-01-08 19:32:58] Dtrade16 : lol
[2017-01-08 19:34:36] MikeHunt : well i suppose it's not begging if he prostitutes himself for it...
[2017-01-08 19:34:40] Dtrade16 : Is anyone long?
[2017-01-08 19:35:04] Boontjie : Dtrade16: 15 inches :)
[2017-01-08 19:35:26] cryptobull : :D
[2017-01-08 19:35:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 25913 @ 896.61
[2017-01-08 19:36:54] anonymous123421 : Dtrade16: been long since 933.59, plz china save me
[2017-01-08 19:37:21] Apocalyptic : anonymous123421: china gonna rekt
[2017-01-08 19:37:56] anonymous123421 : good thing I wasn't too crazy with leverage
[2017-01-08 19:39:42] Dtrade16 : anonymous123421: And you didn't sell?
[2017-01-08 19:39:52] Dtrade16 : Do you use stops?
[2017-01-08 19:40:02] Dtrade16 : Everytime I use a stop it gets hit and I get rekt
[2017-01-08 19:40:18] premium_freak : yeah, never trade with stops
[2017-01-08 19:40:20] Dtrade16 : Do people program bots to hit them or something?
[2017-01-08 19:40:27] Dtrade16 : Such bs!
[2017-01-08 19:40:32] jedisatoshi : hold strong fellas just a shakeout otw to the moon
[2017-01-08 19:40:37] Dtrade16 : Yah but what if your position slides?
[2017-01-08 19:40:44] Apocalyptic : Dtrade16: people can't see your stops
[2017-01-08 19:40:45] chords : hello room, anyone interested in owning a website?
[2017-01-08 19:40:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 899.40
[2017-01-08 19:40:53] BitMEX_Sam : At least here, @Dtrade16, you can set stops based on index or mark price so people can't ratchet the price up and down to hit them
[2017-01-08 19:41:04] BitMEX_Sam : Not possible on BFX of course.
[2017-01-08 19:41:19] anonymous123421 : chords: what website?
[2017-01-08 19:41:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 175 @ 900.96
[2017-01-08 19:41:36] premium_freak : Dtrade16: when your position slides - grin and bear it
[2017-01-08 19:41:42] BitMEX_Sam : But getting your stops hit is also pretty frequent if liquidity drops momentarily
[2017-01-08 19:41:43] rowrow : superbitcoinmegasale.lv
[2017-01-08 19:42:07] Dtrade16 : premium_freak: That doesn't sound like a good strategy
[2017-01-08 19:42:14] premium_freak : Dtrade16: I live by it
[2017-01-08 19:42:20] rowrow : if you're a fundamental trader it does
[2017-01-08 19:42:23] Dtrade16 : Is that ok with crypto?
[2017-01-08 19:42:35] Dtrade16 : premium_freak: And how have you done so far?
[2017-01-08 19:42:45] Dtrade16 : Seems like I made way more money without stops too
[2017-01-08 19:42:47] Dtrade16 : BS
[2017-01-08 19:42:58] premium_freak : Dtrade16: decent, I'd say :_)
[2017-01-08 19:43:06] Dtrade16 : down 2k this past week all cause of these damn stops
[2017-01-08 19:43:19] Dtrade16 : premium_freak: Congrats
[2017-01-08 19:43:37] premium_freak : Dtrade16: the key is to trade with amounts you're comfortable losing
[2017-01-08 19:43:39] BitMEX_Sam : Set TP orders too; if illiquid markets are causing your stops to hit, at least you have a chance it'll hit your TP as well.
[2017-01-08 19:43:56] chords : any website of your choice, and i will biuld it all you need is a domain name and a hosting package,then we get talking youonly have to pay when the job is done
[2017-01-08 19:44:03] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: dont use stops bro just hedge the other way starting where you would normally place a stop
[2017-01-08 19:44:12] Dtrade16 : premium_freak: I can't make much like that though
[2017-01-08 19:44:18] anonymous123421 : chords: This is just spam at this point, please stop
[2017-01-08 19:44:20] chords : anonymous123421: any website of your choice, and i will biuld it all you need is a domain name and a hosting package,then we get talking youonly have to pay when the job is done
[2017-01-08 19:44:22] Dtrade16 : I don't have that big of an account
[2017-01-08 19:44:41] premium_freak : Dtrade16: work and save money until you do, and trade on the side
[2017-01-08 19:45:11] chords : you dont have to pay until am done with the job, in order to clear your doubt
[2017-01-08 19:45:27] rowrow : longs may be getting wrecked, but at least we have that $1.20 coming
[2017-01-08 19:45:29] Dtrade16 : Is 5k a good size?
[2017-01-08 19:45:37] premium_freak : Dtrade16: depends on your total account size
[2017-01-08 19:45:46] Dtrade16 : 5K
[2017-01-08 19:45:51] sleger : chords: why would I pay when you're done with the job ? i can just take it and screw you
[2017-01-08 19:45:55] Dtrade16 : Under now though
[2017-01-08 19:45:57] anonymous123421 : Can someone link an article about hedging a position? I want to do it but it but I don't know how exactly
[2017-01-08 19:46:01] Dtrade16 : Was about 6k
[2017-01-08 19:46:08] Dtrade16 : Now closer to 4 and change
[2017-01-08 19:46:22] Dtrade16 : anonymous123421: me either
[2017-01-08 19:46:42] rowrow : anonymous123421: either short your own position, bet against something correlated with your position, or bet on something negatively correlated with your position
[2017-01-08 19:46:51] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Do you mean just buy going the other way?
[2017-01-08 19:47:29] anonymous123421 : rowrow: how do you do it in a way that does not cancel out your initial positon?
[2017-01-08 19:47:30] rowrow : so if you had 10 btc and wanted to hedge risk, the simplest solution would be to bet, say, 5000 shares agaisnt bitcoin (short)
[2017-01-08 19:47:33] chords : anonymous123421: you got a point
[2017-01-08 19:47:42] rowrow : anonymous123421: that's what hedging is
[2017-01-08 19:48:01] rowrow : you're mitigating the risk of your position dropping, but you make less if it goes up
[2017-01-08 19:48:32] anonymous123421 : I think I see
[2017-01-08 19:48:34] Dtrade16 : rowrow: It only makes sense if you have more winning trades though right?
[2017-01-08 19:48:35] j8 : anonymous123421: check out https://blog.bitmex.com/tag/arbitrage/
[2017-01-08 19:49:07] jedisatoshi : anonymous123421: i have 2 accounts one long and one short.. i go the opposite way where i would normally place a stop
[2017-01-08 19:49:10] rowrow : Dtrade16: it's just risk management, that's all
[2017-01-08 19:49:29] Dtrade16 : I mean like, if you short 1 btc and long 1 btc
[2017-01-08 19:49:37] Dtrade16 : What if both orders get hit
[2017-01-08 19:49:40] Dtrade16 : At the same price
[2017-01-08 19:49:45] rowrow : the simplest way to reduce risk is just to own fewer bitcoin, but obviously your potential gains are less as well
[2017-01-08 19:49:46] premium_freak : Dtrade16: you short the future
[2017-01-08 19:49:51] j8 : there's no point holding hedged positions that are exactly the same, but you might make some interest i.e. by buying spot and selling futures
[2017-01-08 19:49:52] chords : anonymous123421:i could join flippa so we have a third party,once both party accept the deal,they do the rest\
[2017-01-08 19:50:35] rowrow : Dtrade16: they will usually cancel out, but it's a bit more complicated with funding/interest fees, possibilities of liquidations if you aren't careful
[2017-01-08 19:50:49] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: oops i meant that reply to you
[2017-01-08 19:51:17] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: And how is that working out?
[2017-01-08 19:51:23] Dtrade16 : I hate stops
[2017-01-08 19:51:26] Dtrade16 : Cost me 2k
[2017-01-08 19:51:30] Dtrade16 : I can't believe this bs
[2017-01-08 19:51:47] chords : but anyone who needs a website, can contact me, i dont have trust issues i believe after i play my part you also play yours
[2017-01-08 19:51:52] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: its pretty nice that way when im losing i feel better about holding my position incase of a reversal
[2017-01-08 19:52:09] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: What do you think about scaling?
[2017-01-08 19:52:16] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: I hate stops too my freind that really used to kill me
[2017-01-08 19:52:20] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Like buying bit by bit?
[2017-01-08 19:52:26] rowrow : if you are only trading with a portion of your total portfolio on here, you can choose to just let the liquidation hit - it isn't as expensive as other sites unless you're very highly leveraged
[2017-01-08 19:52:58] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: def i always scale in and out of positions, simply bc of the lack of liquidity
[2017-01-08 19:53:04] Dtrade16 : Nice I'm trading on finex unfortunately
[2017-01-08 19:53:31] chords : my email is chordsd@yahoo.com, my name is David. i charge as low as 45usd
[2017-01-08 19:53:35] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: I dont use many market orders unless i feel very confident of a big move
[2017-01-08 19:53:49] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Cool I found that to work for me but sometimes you can miss moves and than not make as much
[2017-01-08 19:54:23] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: im holding my long from 2 days ago at 819
[2017-01-08 19:54:24] Dtrade16 : It's better though imo
[2017-01-08 19:54:28] Dtrade16 : It's like insurance
[2017-01-08 19:54:30] chords : you can also pay in bitcoin hope to hear from you,thanks
[2017-01-08 19:54:38] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Damn nice
[2017-01-08 19:54:48] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: when you are right its never too much and when you are wrong its always too much lol
[2017-01-08 19:55:05] premium_freak : jedisatoshi: exactly..
[2017-01-08 19:55:07] Dtrade16 : Lol yep
[2017-01-08 19:55:19] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: I am holding for awhile my target is 1050
[2017-01-08 19:55:29] Dtrade16 : How do I know when to get out of a position though?
[2017-01-08 19:55:37] Dtrade16 : This is what I'm struggling with
[2017-01-08 19:55:54] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Cool
[2017-01-08 19:55:55] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: i started with 10x leverage but i have added alot of margin to feel better liquidation price is 620
[2017-01-08 19:56:09] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Nice
[2017-01-08 19:56:42] chords : yeah when you buy few contract its always right, but when you buy huge contract then you go wrong and it keeps going against you until you are liquidated
[2017-01-08 19:56:55] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: How do you determine price target?
[2017-01-08 19:57:01] Dtrade16 : Do you look at moving averages?
[2017-01-08 19:57:02] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: thats hard to say i personally think we will test the ATH again soon. I believe this is just a shakeout for whales to aquire cheap coins everyone going short may make some small gains but the play here is long imo
[2017-01-08 19:57:27] Ebit : the profit and loss calculator is preset at 100x leverage how do i change that?
[2017-01-08 19:57:57] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: I do like at moving averages and fib levels
[2017-01-08 19:58:02] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: me too but I mean in general
[2017-01-08 19:58:08] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Ok
[2017-01-08 19:59:15] jedisatoshi : the trick is to let your profits run and hedge your losses.. I lose atleast 7 out of 10 times but my wins make up for my frequent failures lol that is the key
[2017-01-08 20:00:09] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: True
[2017-01-08 20:00:59] jedisatoshi : there is too much interest and hype right now for the whole thing to just collapse we didnt break 1000 for nothing! I have been in since 2011 and have seen this too many times.. this neg news about china has happened before a few times
[2017-01-08 20:01:21] jedisatoshi : this reminds me of the time the silk road when down.. soon after moon
[2017-01-08 20:01:55] rapidtrades : god damit
[2017-01-08 20:02:13] rapidtrades : so not only do i lose on price appreciation, I get raped with funding fees too
[2017-01-08 20:02:16] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: don't tell me you got ADl'd
[2017-01-08 20:02:20] jedisatoshi : lots of smart money buying these dips i wouldnt mind a few more dips so i can buy more on the spot market and ass to my long.. but the fees are starting to suck lol
[2017-01-08 20:02:23] rapidtrades : for what? just to get ADLed on the way down?
[2017-01-08 20:03:15] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: It's western news media that creates this news
[2017-01-08 20:03:22] Dtrade16 : Like Bloomberg
[2017-01-08 20:03:50] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: that is true sie
[2017-01-08 20:03:52] jedisatoshi : sir
[2017-01-08 20:04:30] rapidtrades : the longs got a f*cking free ride on the way up with low fees and premiums, now shorts are getting shafted
[2017-01-08 20:04:37] rapidtrades : like wtf is this i can't even
[2017-01-08 20:04:50] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Did you read that article today about how the Chinese gov banning bitcoin was just media propaganda?
[2017-01-08 20:05:41] rapidtrades : oh im sure
[2017-01-08 20:05:57] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: yeah and you said it... propaganda
[2017-01-08 20:06:00] Dtrade16 : They didn't say anything about banning bitcoin, they were just warning people that it's risky and to be careful when investing
[2017-01-08 20:06:13] rapidtrades : going up 50% in 3 months was PURE DEMAND and ORGANIC GROWTH
[2017-01-08 20:06:15] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: this just history repeating itself over and over
[2017-01-08 20:06:18] rapidtrades : now it's manipulation
[2017-01-08 20:06:28] rapidtrades : man gfto newbs
[2017-01-08 20:06:29] jedisatoshi : i just paid like .14 in funding fees
[2017-01-08 20:06:40] Dtrade16 : It's western interest groups I think, trying to get in
[2017-01-08 20:06:45] Dtrade16 : Hedge funds
[2017-01-08 20:06:46] anonymous123421 : lol there's always manipulation
[2017-01-08 20:06:48] Dtrade16 : Etc
[2017-01-08 20:06:51] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: whats your position right now?
[2017-01-08 20:07:07] Dtrade16 : Long from 910ish
[2017-01-08 20:07:17] rapidtrades : Dtrade16: no hedge fund will invest in bitcoin , they have tons of regs they have to follow
[2017-01-08 20:07:39] Ebit : the profit and loss calculator is preset at 100x leverage how do i change that?
[2017-01-08 20:07:53] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: not bad just hold stong even if it dips do you have plenty of room?
[2017-01-08 20:08:11] Dtrade16 : rapidtrades: Well whoever has access to media can just toy with prices, obviously it aint a bunch of guys in a basement
[2017-01-08 20:08:31] rapidtrades : yes it actualy is a bunch of guys in a basement
[2017-01-08 20:08:35] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: exactly this is no different then the stock market
[2017-01-08 20:08:53] rapidtrades : retailers make up the vast majority here, unlike in the US stock market
[2017-01-08 20:08:58] rapidtrades : so its VERY DIFFERENT
[2017-01-08 20:08:58] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: everyone super bullish about dow 20K im short lol
[2017-01-08 20:09:18] jedisatoshi : rapidtrades: im mean in reference to the media
[2017-01-08 20:09:22] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Well yah I do
[2017-01-08 20:09:29] rapidtrades : jedisatoshi: whatever
[2017-01-08 20:10:27] jedisatoshi : whatever lol
[2017-01-08 20:10:46] Dtrade16 : rapidtrades: How so?
[2017-01-08 20:11:36] Dtrade16 : Does finex show a liquidation price?
[2017-01-08 20:11:59] Dtrade16 : Oh ok got it
[2017-01-08 20:12:04] Dtrade16 : liq price is 600
[2017-01-08 20:12:11] Apocalyptic : jedisatoshi: you're short the future ?
[2017-01-08 20:12:29] jedisatoshi : Apocalyptic: the dow and S&P yes
[2017-01-08 20:12:38] Apocalyptic : YMH7 I mean
[2017-01-08 20:12:48] Apocalyptic : of you're short some obscure CFD on it
[2017-01-08 20:13:07] Apocalyptic : *or
[2017-01-08 20:13:16] jedisatoshi : Apocalyptic: yup 1broker
[2017-01-08 20:17:59] Apocalyptic : jedisatoshi: I see
[2017-01-08 20:19:31] Apocalyptic : [21:08] jedisatoshi: Dtrade16: everyone super bullish about dow 20K im short
[2017-01-08 20:19:41] Apocalyptic : dude even GS said it's too high
[2017-01-08 20:20:12] Apocalyptic : JPM too, so actually everyone is pretty bearish
[2017-01-08 20:20:16] anonymous123421 : thank you china
[2017-01-08 20:21:52] Dtrade16 : You guys think we're gonna get a move?
[2017-01-08 20:22:06] jedisatoshi : Apocalyptic: I feel ya, Im def short. I have a feeling we are due for a major correction between now and inauguration
[2017-01-08 20:22:23] jedisatoshi : thats the major indexes that is
[2017-01-08 20:22:30] Apocalyptic : jedisatoshi: no doubt, but these US stocks only tend to go up
[2017-01-08 20:22:48] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: here we go my friend! get ready
[2017-01-08 20:23:55] jedisatoshi : Apocalyptic: you are right and i could be wrong with my timing but no risk to reward i plan on holding short on the DOW and S&P for a bit
[2017-01-08 20:24:10] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: nice
[2017-01-08 20:24:27] Dtrade16 : Has anyone ever watched the documentary Trader?
[2017-01-08 20:24:45] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: on netfilx the one about the coffee market?
[2017-01-08 20:24:53] Dtrade16 : 105 bought on finex
[2017-01-08 20:24:59] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: No
[2017-01-08 20:25:30] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: hmm not sure yet. where can i find this documentary?
[2017-01-08 20:25:35] Dtrade16 : It's a 1980s documentary about a index futures trader
[2017-01-08 20:25:51] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: then no i havent seen it. any good?
[2017-01-08 20:25:52] Dtrade16 : The guy predicted the coming 1987 crash
[2017-01-08 20:26:05] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: It's amazing
[2017-01-08 20:26:16] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: its just called Trader?
[2017-01-08 20:26:23] Dynamix : Up it goes :) its amazing heh
[2017-01-08 20:26:26] jedisatoshi : i want to check that out thanks!
[2017-01-08 20:26:41] Dtrade16 : I'll give you the link it's kinda hard to find online
[2017-01-08 20:26:46] jedisatoshi : Hold on to your butts lol
[2017-01-08 20:26:48] Dtrade16 : It gets taken down
[2017-01-08 20:27:43] Dtrade16 : http://gorillavid.in/rw6suj2oavul
[2017-01-08 20:28:13] Dtrade16 : It's so sick, guys name is Paul Tutor Jones
[2017-01-08 20:29:18] jedisatoshi : hmm to i need to make an account on this gorillavid?
[2017-01-08 20:29:27] Dtrade16 : No
[2017-01-08 20:29:53] Dtrade16 : Scroll down and hit continue, mind the interstitials
[2017-01-08 20:30:22] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: cool thanks man i appreciate that!
[2017-01-08 20:30:42] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: np
[2017-01-08 20:30:48] Dtrade16 : :)
[2017-01-08 20:30:51] Dtrade16 : :D
[2017-01-08 20:31:38] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: Not sure if it's very educational but it's definitely interesting
[2017-01-08 20:32:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 908.90
[2017-01-08 20:32:55] Dynamix : go go go up to 10000 :D
[2017-01-08 20:44:33] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: you should be in the green now right?
[2017-01-08 20:45:00] Dtrade16 : yep lol
[2017-01-08 20:45:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5 @ 909.46
[2017-01-08 20:45:29] Dtrade16 : jedisatoshi: any price target for today?
[2017-01-08 20:45:37] Dtrade16 : What do you guys thinking?
[2017-01-08 20:45:51] premium_freak : staying above 910 would be nice
[2017-01-08 20:45:51] Apocalyptic : jedisatoshi: but I feel what you're saying
[2017-01-08 20:45:59] odieoh : 69
[2017-01-08 20:46:11] Apocalyptic : personally I wouldn't be against a 20-30% correction on spx
[2017-01-08 20:46:22] jedisatoshi : not really im not worried about today so much im holding long term. my goal is to stay discipline and let profits run even if its for a week or so
[2017-01-08 20:47:33] jedisatoshi : Apocalyptic: yeah dude 20-30% would be nice and i would get out right away on a 20% correction bc it does tend to snap back.. my guess central banks start buying it back
[2017-01-08 20:47:47] Apocalyptic : exactly
[2017-01-08 20:47:53] Apocalyptic : grandma Janet busy
[2017-01-08 20:47:58] anonymous123421 : What do you guys think about the inauguration and the price of bitcoin? Thoughts?
[2017-01-08 20:48:22] jedisatoshi : anonymous123421: im not sure it will have a direct impact but i could be wrong
[2017-01-08 20:48:25] rapidtrades : what do I think? it doesn't matter at all
[2017-01-08 20:48:27] Dtrade16 : I'm out
[2017-01-08 20:48:36] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: out?
[2017-01-08 20:48:45] Dtrade16 : Yah I took profits
[2017-01-08 20:48:58] anonymous123421 : Dtrade16: Nice
[2017-01-08 20:49:04] Dtrade16 : I need a couple of small winners right now
[2017-01-08 20:49:15] Dtrade16 : Lost too much money, gotta get my mojo back
[2017-01-08 20:49:50] Dtrade16 : anonymous123421: Thanks, it will probably rocket now lol
[2017-01-08 20:51:49] jedisatoshi : this is me right now so you dont just think im talking shit.. im holding steady to really make some money http://imgur.com/a/jf5sr
[2017-01-08 20:52:09] jedisatoshi : waiting for the rocket
[2017-01-08 20:53:06] jedisatoshi : dont plan on taking profits for awhile
[2017-01-08 20:53:23] anonymous123421 : Damn, nice!
[2017-01-08 20:53:46] Apocalyptic : jedisatoshi: nice unrealized man
[2017-01-08 20:53:56] jedisatoshi : thank yo
[2017-01-08 20:53:57] jedisatoshi : you
[2017-01-08 20:54:05] Apocalyptic : you've got strong nerves
[2017-01-08 20:54:33] jedisatoshi : I have learned many expensive lessons in the past lol
[2017-01-08 20:56:31] jedisatoshi : I started buying at 819 on the way up
[2017-01-08 20:57:06] Dtrade16 : Guys what does it mean to claim a position?
[2017-01-08 20:57:06] anonymous123421 : I need to learn to just stay cool and BTFD
[2017-01-08 20:57:27] jedisatoshi : BTDF?
[2017-01-08 20:57:36] sleger : Dtrade16: ask on finex chat all your finex questions
[2017-01-08 20:57:41] Dtrade16 : I don't see the money in my margina ccount
[2017-01-08 20:57:42] anonymous123421 : Buy the F*cking Dip
[2017-01-08 20:57:52] jedisatoshi : anonymous123421: hahahaha
[2017-01-08 20:58:03] jedisatoshi : yeah thats my strategy right now
[2017-01-08 20:58:30] anonymous123421 : Fear and greed are powerful things
[2017-01-08 20:58:42] jedisatoshi : forsure
[2017-01-08 20:58:42] Apocalyptic : Buy the dip works great in a bull market
[2017-01-08 20:58:49] Apocalyptic : otherwise, not su much
[2017-01-08 20:59:10] jedisatoshi : yeah then its sell the spikes
[2017-01-08 20:59:16] anonymous123421 : Apocalyptic: Sure, I can see that
[2017-01-08 20:59:32] Apocalyptic : you guys still think we're in a bull run ?
[2017-01-08 20:59:48] jedisatoshi : Apocalyptic: absolutely
[2017-01-08 20:59:53] MikeHunt : Apocalyptic: we'll know by midnight i guess
[2017-01-08 21:00:01] MikeHunt : if it fails to break upwards, not good
[2017-01-08 21:00:06] anonymous123421 : Apocalyptic: sure, long/mid term
[2017-01-08 21:00:15] jedisatoshi : MikeHunt: is that what your triangle says?
[2017-01-08 21:00:30] MikeHunt : we either go up to the moon or down to 5600, maybe less
[2017-01-08 21:00:59] MikeHunt : im betting on long based on EMA on longer time intervals
[2017-01-08 21:01:25] MikeHunt : and china pump time
[2017-01-08 21:01:54] anonymous123421 : china, plz gimme money
[2017-01-08 21:02:09] jedisatoshi : lol yeah china!
[2017-01-08 21:02:47] anonymous123421 : Dat CNYBTC chart!
[2017-01-08 21:02:51] anonymous123421 : Pump PUMP PUMP
[2017-01-08 21:03:47] anonymous123421 : eh
[2017-01-08 21:05:07] Dynamix : its going to break it :D
[2017-01-08 21:07:26] anonymous123421 : Can the candles get any bigger?
[2017-01-08 21:11:00] jedisatoshi : anonymous123421: I sure hope so
[2017-01-08 21:12:09] nono1 : yeah that would be a hard drop to 800
[2017-01-08 21:13:16] Dynamix : nono1: it wont haha
[2017-01-08 21:17:09] jedisatoshi : Dynamix: hell no it wont
[2017-01-08 21:17:23] jedisatoshi : next stop 1000
[2017-01-08 21:18:41] Apocalyptic : nono1: retesting $840 would be nice
[2017-01-08 21:19:10] jedisatoshi : Dtrade16: watching the Trader now
[2017-01-08 21:19:28] jedisatoshi : Apocalyptic: yeah i could take that so i can buy more on spot
[2017-01-08 21:23:10] Dynamix : up we goo
[2017-01-08 21:23:20] Dynamix : jedisatoshi: Yup I hope so I've got a long from 906
[2017-01-08 21:27:25] Dynamix : if we break 6400 we are going to go real high real fast
[2017-01-08 21:27:54] Tom : I'm betting that we just stay at $860-$930 for a while
[2017-01-08 21:28:09] Dynamix : Tom: to 930 then haha :D
[2017-01-08 21:29:02] Dynamix : there we goo
[2017-01-08 21:29:05] MikeHunt : hopefully it can pull out of this dive
[2017-01-08 21:29:07] MikeHunt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHl6yPL0800&t=1m49s
[2017-01-08 21:29:10] Dynamix : uuuh yeah :D
[2017-01-08 21:40:20] anonymous123421 : what's with the swap being so high compared to the spot index?
[2017-01-08 21:40:38] anonymous123421 : Well, it's not THAT high, but still
[2017-01-08 21:40:53] sleger : feel free to sell
[2017-01-08 21:41:16] BitMEX_Greg : anonymous123421: Hi, This means that people are buying over the Index Price. That is, it is trading at a premium right now.
[2017-01-08 21:41:51] anonymous123421 : sleger: I'm holding, thanks
[2017-01-08 21:46:14] itsyourboy : Short from 902, got to break down soon...
[2017-01-08 21:48:08] Adriana : itsyourboy: Be ready to panic close it, it may break upwards soon
[2017-01-08 21:49:02] MikeHunt : itsyourboy: its just broken out of the big triangle
[2017-01-08 21:49:06] MikeHunt : i expect upsy time
[2017-01-08 21:49:23] MikeHunt : also china starts pumps in 40 mins iirc
[2017-01-08 21:49:49] anonymous123421 : MikeHunt: why such a specific time?
[2017-01-08 21:50:06] MikeHunt : anonymous123421: early china trading starts 5:30am their time
[2017-01-08 21:50:29] MikeHunt : anonymous123421: however any real progress should happen on monday
[2017-01-08 21:50:33] MikeHunt : (bank transfers)
[2017-01-08 21:51:02] anonymous123421 : hmmm, interesting
[2017-01-08 21:51:26] MikeHunt : oh yeh
[2017-01-08 21:51:30] MikeHunt : it will be monday china time
[2017-01-08 21:51:34] MikeHunt : so should be a big jump
[2017-01-08 21:53:51] itsyourboy : a nice big sell off has hapened a few times after a slow rise for a few hours
[2017-01-08 21:56:29] anonymous123421 : Nobody really know what will happen IMO
[2017-01-08 21:56:45] anonymous123421 : I'm bullish though. At least long term.
[2017-01-08 21:58:46] itsyourboy : very true, i just think we're heading for a bit of downward momentum
[2017-01-08 22:00:15] itsyourboy : anyone else seen when the china's out of step with the USB exchanges there's more often than not a sell off too?
[2017-01-08 22:00:22] itsyourboy : USD*
[2017-01-08 22:00:23] rowrow : price in china stays the same: price in here drops $5
[2017-01-08 22:01:18] itsyourboy : they've been flat for c2hrs now
[2017-01-08 22:03:24] itsyourboy : volume's super low across all exchanges too
[2017-01-08 22:03:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1181 @ 903.25
[2017-01-08 22:04:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1550 @ 6553.0
[2017-01-08 22:04:20] Dynamix : lol
[2017-01-08 22:04:22] Dynamix : df people
[2017-01-08 22:04:25] Dynamix : stop this ;(
[2017-01-08 22:04:28] itsyourboy : there it is.....
[2017-01-08 22:05:08] Dynamix : fake dump
[2017-01-08 22:09:41] itsyourboy : if 900 goes though....
[2017-01-08 22:10:02] rapidtrades : whats with this f vol maaan
[2017-01-08 22:10:10] rapidtrades : at least go smwhere
[2017-01-08 22:10:30] itsyourboy : when china starts trading as someone mentioned earlier it'll pick up
[2017-01-08 22:10:44] Apocalyptic : @rapidtrades: feels like nobody on H17
[2017-01-08 22:11:09] anonymous123421 : It's currently 6:10 AM in Beijing
[2017-01-08 22:11:56] rapidtrades : noone cares what time is it in china man
[2017-01-08 22:12:42] anonymous123421 : Someone just mentioned it, I thought I'd google it
[2017-01-08 22:13:02] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-01-08 22:14:51] Dtrade16 : Back long
[2017-01-08 22:15:35] w0x : does anyone use telegram to place orders here?
[2017-01-08 22:16:39] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-01-08 22:16:55] BitMEX_Greg : w0x: You can't place orders via telegram here
[2017-01-08 22:16:56] rapidtrades : isn't telegram a chat app?
[2017-01-08 22:17:04] sleger : i use pigeons
[2017-01-08 22:17:37] ayy_lmao : wut
[2017-01-08 22:17:40] ayy_lmao : link pls
[2017-01-08 22:17:49] sleger : ayy_lmao: pigeons.com
[2017-01-08 22:17:59] ayy_lmao : oh i though you said "can"
[2017-01-08 22:18:24] Dtrade16 : Morse code
[2017-01-08 22:18:40] anonymous123421 : Isn't the latency too high with a pigeon for serious trading?
[2017-01-08 22:18:46] w0x : @BitMEX_Greg thanks
[2017-01-08 22:18:48] Dtrade16 : Where's jedi?
[2017-01-08 22:19:11] rapidtrades : anonymous123421: not if it's an african pigeon
[2017-01-08 22:19:15] rapidtrades : those bastards are fat
[2017-01-08 22:19:18] rapidtrades : fast*
[2017-01-08 22:19:22] rapidtrades : fat too
[2017-01-08 22:19:32] w0x : what do people use for bots?
[2017-01-08 22:19:34] w0x : since api
[2017-01-08 22:19:47] sleger : i use Ro
[2017-01-08 22:19:49] odieoh : I use a virtual pigeon it's much quicker
[2017-01-08 22:20:00] rapidtrades : most use python i think, some use C
[2017-01-08 22:20:44] sleger : nah almost nobody would use C for btc trading
[2017-01-08 22:20:59] rapidtrades : C+ or C++ whatever that shit#s called
[2017-01-08 22:21:32] w0x : links?
[2017-01-08 22:21:34] sleger : almost nobody would use c++
[2017-01-08 22:21:44] sleger : w0x: Ro-bots.com
[2017-01-08 22:22:00] Apocalyptic : sleger: why ?
[2017-01-08 22:22:12] MikeHunt : visual basic = best bot ever ;)
[2017-01-08 22:22:22] rapidtrades : because its called C+ and he's a literal nancy @Apocalyptic
[2017-01-08 22:22:26] sleger : not easy for this kind of thing and no real added value since latency is not relevant
[2017-01-08 22:22:27] w0x : smh thx sieger
[2017-01-08 22:22:46] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: no such thing as C+
[2017-01-08 22:22:51] rapidtrades : k
[2017-01-08 22:22:56] Apocalyptic : you have C,c++,C# though
[2017-01-08 22:23:35] rapidtrades : well micmix uses one of those
[2017-01-08 22:24:07] Apocalyptic : sleger: if you're making huge compation you can be pretty sure you'll see a diff between a compiled language like C and python
[2017-01-08 22:24:13] sleger : rapidtrades: he does not
[2017-01-08 22:24:14] Apocalyptic : *computations
[2017-01-08 22:24:35] sleger : for btc trading irrelevant
[2017-01-08 22:25:08] ayy_lmao : anybody use node?
[2017-01-08 22:25:39] MikeHunt : so not much diff between C and python bot?
[2017-01-08 22:25:56] rapidtrades : sleger: yes he does
[2017-01-08 22:27:29] sleger : rapidtrades: no
[2017-01-08 22:27:43] lockhedge : iirc mixmic uses C# F# and some nodejs
[2017-01-08 22:27:46] sleger : he uses javascript mostly
[2017-01-08 22:27:54] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-01-08 22:28:01] sleger : and F#
[2017-01-08 22:28:03] rapidtrades : Javscript?
[2017-01-08 22:28:06] rapidtrades : for trading?
[2017-01-08 22:28:18] rapidtrades : isn't that for web development?
[2017-01-08 22:28:18] sleger : @micmix
[2017-01-08 22:28:19] Apocalyptic : nodejs is javascript basically
[2017-01-08 22:28:37] sleger : dont remember him saying he uses c#
[2017-01-08 22:28:44] Apocalyptic : its quite popular with real time apps
[2017-01-08 22:28:57] rapidtrades : sleger: I remember it being some of the Cs
[2017-01-08 22:29:09] rapidtrades : so prlly C# like lockhedge says
[2017-01-08 22:29:26] premium_freak : the language really doesn't matter
[2017-01-08 22:29:32] rapidtrades : premium_freak: yes it does
[2017-01-08 22:29:39] premium_freak : rapidtrades: explain
[2017-01-08 22:29:45] arezki : You recommend me what robot software for bitmex ???
[2017-01-08 22:29:56] rapidtrades : speed is different
[2017-01-08 22:30:11] arezki : ?
[2017-01-08 22:30:16] premium_freak : rapidtrades: the speed gains from a low latency language are completely eclipsed by the network latency
[2017-01-08 22:30:34] rapidtrades : maybe but lots of bots now run colocated
[2017-01-08 22:30:39] arezki : A video or an explanation?
[2017-01-08 22:31:32] arezki : The software name please
[2017-01-08 22:31:32] arezki : ?
[2017-01-08 22:31:36] rapidtrades : arezki: Rado has some for sale
[2017-01-08 22:31:58] rapidtrades : i don't remember his site
[2017-01-08 22:32:46] rapidtrades : sleger: have u tried MMing on alts? worth it or not?
[2017-01-08 22:33:00] rapidtrades : seems like lower hanging fruit for newbs like me
[2017-01-08 22:33:28] rapidtrades : bigger spreads, lower competition etc
[2017-01-08 22:33:34] Apocalyptic : premium_freak: solid point
[2017-01-08 22:33:49] arezki : rapidtrades: I trade manually but I lose too much, I want to try a robot
[2017-01-08 22:33:54] Apocalyptic : unless you have an ethernet cable plugged right into the exchange server
[2017-01-08 22:34:08] lockhedge : arezki: there is some open source code to learn how to use their api but you have to implement your trading strategy yourself https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker
[2017-01-08 22:34:12] rapidtrades : arezki: message Rado when u see him...he sells some
[2017-01-08 22:34:51] MikeHunt : lockhedge: how do you run it on windows thou?
[2017-01-08 22:34:56] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: don't most exchanges now run on amazon cloud? so u just gotta be located on the same amazon server
[2017-01-08 22:34:58] MikeHunt : lockhedge: dont u have to have linux?
[2017-01-08 22:35:52] arezki : no window 7
[2017-01-08 22:36:12] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: cloud is tricky, I'm not familiar with aws's interface
[2017-01-08 22:36:26] Apocalyptic : does it let you chose a specific physical server ? I don't think so
[2017-01-08 22:37:13] sleger : you choose location
[2017-01-08 22:39:59] Apocalyptic : sleger: a more of less precise geographic location maybe
[2017-01-08 22:40:02] sleger : for instance bitmex is aws ireland
[2017-01-08 22:40:11] sleger : no they have one data center there
[2017-01-08 22:40:18] sleger : so you'll be in the same building
[2017-01-08 22:40:19] Apocalyptic : still doesn't guarantee you being on the exact same physical machine