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[2017-01-07 23:04:24] sleger : premium_freak: i thought you were totally hedged
[2017-01-07 23:04:27] nOgAnOo : lost 230 the other day
[2017-01-07 23:04:28] sleger : just collected premium
[2017-01-07 23:04:29] nOgAnOo : just recovered 50
[2017-01-07 23:04:38] sleger : nOgAnOo: :)
[2017-01-07 23:04:48] premium_freak : sleger: unfortunately I don't have enough money on the exchanges to hedge my cold wallet
[2017-01-07 23:04:51] nOgAnOo : Time to get some WEEED
[2017-01-07 23:05:04] nOgAnOo : Weeed with 3 Es.. that's how good it is.
[2017-01-07 23:05:10] premium_freak : so what I can't hedge, I don't worry about too much..
[2017-01-07 23:05:13] sleger : premium_freak: you only need to put 20% on exchanges to be hedged and not much at risk
[2017-01-07 23:05:39] premium_freak : sleger: there are only a few decent sites that do futures
[2017-01-07 23:06:23] sleger : ok but if you have say 1000btc, send 100 to 2 exchanges and you have enough margin to hedge everything and time to send more if it goes against the hedge before margin call
[2017-01-07 23:06:35] sleger : (send 2x 100btc)
[2017-01-07 23:07:46] premium_freak : sleger: I have about 100 btc on ok coin, but I was afraid to sell more than 200 btc in futures there
[2017-01-07 23:08:02] jigsaw : how can you trust those exchanges with so much money?
[2017-01-07 23:08:05] premium_freak : with bitcoin spiking up like it did, you never know with that site
[2017-01-07 23:08:22] premium_freak : sleger: I got nearly margin called there in nov 2015
[2017-01-07 23:08:24] sleger : x3-x5 is safe
[2017-01-07 23:08:30] Dynamix : premium_freak: send me 1 coin I will make it 1000 coins ;)
[2017-01-07 23:08:33] sleger : if it spikes you have time to add more
[2017-01-07 23:08:39] Dynamix : and give you 50% :)
[2017-01-07 23:08:49] nOgAnOo : climbing!
[2017-01-07 23:09:45] premium_freak : sleger: the truth is that I was very long bitcoin, which was wrong, but I did sell quite bit of futures at ok coin near the top (when the chinese price was clearly running away and had to come back), however it's not nearly enough to cover it all
[2017-01-07 23:10:05] mors : if you have 100btc in cold storage... would that change your strategy since you're always long basically?
[2017-01-07 23:10:33] premium_freak : mors: sorry I don't know what you're asking
[2017-01-07 23:10:55] sleger : just say no
[2017-01-07 23:10:55] jigsaw : that if you never go short how do you hedge a cold storage?
[2017-01-07 23:11:12] sleger : by going short less than you have total ?
[2017-01-07 23:11:18] mors : i mean... if you have 100BTC in cold storage... and 10BTC in bitmex... how would you play it
[2017-01-07 23:11:28] sleger : sell 100btc here
[2017-01-07 23:11:30] premium_freak : at most, in the past, I would completely hedge my cold wallet with the futures sites and bitfinex
[2017-01-07 23:11:40] mors : would you still be long? or just let it go up... and then short to hedge
[2017-01-07 23:11:51] Dynamix : should I short this ?
[2017-01-07 23:12:01] Dynamix : and go to smoke a joint :D
[2017-01-07 23:12:07] mors : thanks premium freak...
[2017-01-07 23:12:24] premium_freak : yeah I normally try to get neutral when I think we're near a top by short selling futures or lending btc out on bitfinex
[2017-01-07 23:12:25] jigsaw : why don't you just convert in dollars and hedge with CME that is much safer?
[2017-01-07 23:12:39] premium_freak : clearly I didn't think 1150 was a top :)
[2017-01-07 23:12:42] jigsaw : ahm
[2017-01-07 23:12:50] rapidtrades : bitmex? why do we have to pay 80 cents per withdrawal here when regular are 10-20?
[2017-01-07 23:13:01] nOgAnOo : You like to throw your money in the garbage, premium freak? Why use finhax?
[2017-01-07 23:13:02] sleger : rapidtrades: multisig
[2017-01-07 23:13:14] rapidtrades : i thought that was 3x not 8x
[2017-01-07 23:13:15] Dynamix : Double top here big drop incoming
[2017-01-07 23:13:16] mors : do we have futures in bitmex?
[2017-01-07 23:13:17] j8 : have you noticed okcoin's withdrawal fee skimming?
[2017-01-07 23:13:30] nOgAnOo : tell us about it j8
[2017-01-07 23:13:30] rapidtrades : 80 cents as minimum fee is too much imo
[2017-01-07 23:13:35] premium_freak : nOgAnOo: it didn't seeem like a terrible idea before the hack... now I removed all my remaining coins from that site
[2017-01-07 23:13:53] ayy_lmao : every bit counts for the insurance fund rapid
[2017-01-07 23:13:54] j8 : you put in a miner's fee, to get high priority, but they send it with a lower fee anyway
[2017-01-07 23:13:56] premium_freak : mors: yes, they expire in March
[2017-01-07 23:14:56] sleger : j8: yep
[2017-01-07 23:15:21] sleger : j8: also have you noticed that they send a very low fee however you're always in the first block ?
[2017-01-07 23:15:42] j8 : and they batch your withdrawal with others, so they get a bunch of 0.0005's and pay like 0.00012.
[2017-01-07 23:16:00] sleger : but im always in the next block with them
[2017-01-07 23:16:06] rapidtrades : not cool bitmex
[2017-01-07 23:16:09] j8 : yeah is that a deal with miners you think?
[2017-01-07 23:16:15] sleger : yes
[2017-01-07 23:16:32] sleger : dont see another explanation
[2017-01-07 23:16:42] j8 : honestly i send with low fees from my own wallet and always get in first block
[2017-01-07 23:16:46] premium_freak : too lazy to write code for dynamic fees?
[2017-01-07 23:16:49] sleger : even when many transactions are pending they send low fee and always in next block
[2017-01-07 23:16:52] mors : premium_freak: ok i see it now... xbth17
[2017-01-07 23:17:11] rapidtrades : sleger: how much are they pocketing?
[2017-01-07 23:17:29] sleger : rapidtrades: "j8: and they batch your withdrawal with others, so they get a bunch of 0.0005's and pay like 0.00012."
[2017-01-07 23:17:37] rapidtrades : 70 cents per withdrawal?
[2017-01-07 23:17:47] sleger : *many together
[2017-01-07 23:18:18] rapidtrades : ok 75ish?
[2017-01-07 23:18:27] sleger : in the end i still pay 3-5x more here and not in the next block
[2017-01-07 23:18:50] sleger : and you can change the 0.0005 by default, since i noticed that few months back i changed to 0.0002 always
[2017-01-07 23:19:39] j8 : just checked my last two withdrawals from there, they weren't batched but i paid 0.0005 and 0.0002, they paid 0.00018 both times
[2017-01-07 23:19:55] BitMEX_Sam : Fees are based on real-world network conditions; we base them off a target of roughly 70 satoshis/byte to get withdrawals confirmed within 3 blocks
[2017-01-07 23:20:19] rapidtrades : ok so that's why i got 80 ccents quote few days ago
[2017-01-07 23:20:28] BitMEX_Sam : I can't speak to what OKC is doing but it does make sense that they would have a connection to miners
[2017-01-07 23:20:33] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: what's the current rate?
[2017-01-07 23:20:46] BitMEX_Sam : Right; we've found that users almost without fail put the minimum fee in, then we get endless support emails about slow transactions
[2017-01-07 23:20:57] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: 0.0008; it should fall soon
[2017-01-07 23:21:07] sleger : thats because they dont expect transactions to be that large
[2017-01-07 23:21:21] sleger : cause multisig
[2017-01-07 23:21:45] BitMEX_Sam : Right, our transactions are larger than p2pkh
[2017-01-07 23:21:46] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: that's unreasonably high imo, i just sent one with 0.00015 fee and it went in next block
[2017-01-07 23:22:14] BitMEX_Sam : rapidtrades: Again, different kind of transaction
[2017-01-07 23:22:15] rapidtrades : *not mutisig
[2017-01-07 23:22:16] Dynamix : dumpening :)
[2017-01-07 23:22:33] nOgAnOo : LOL
[2017-01-07 23:22:37] nOgAnOo : I'm at 72 dollars
[2017-01-07 23:22:44] nOgAnOo : over 1000% this morning
[2017-01-07 23:22:48] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: i remember it as 2-3x normal cost, not 6x
[2017-01-07 23:23:08] premium_freak : nOgAnOo: if only you could do that 7 days in a row
[2017-01-07 23:23:12] BitMEX_Sam : We set the rate manually based on observed market conditions; it may be true that the rate at this very moment is better
[2017-01-07 23:23:24] nOgAnOo : Yeah premium.. you wouldn't believe my business plans man
[2017-01-07 23:23:33] nOgAnOo : I have 1000 varieties of seeds
[2017-01-07 23:23:40] nOgAnOo : I'm building garden robotics
[2017-01-07 23:23:41] BitMEX_Sam : We will be putting an automated process in to recalculate the rate but given our once-a-day withdrawals it's always going to be somewhat of a guess as to how clogged the mempool will be at 13:00 UTC
[2017-01-07 23:24:09] rullwull : j8: i complained about it to support and made them to reimburse the difference for 3 months period
[2017-01-07 23:24:24] nOgAnOo : Sam what time is withdraws?
[2017-01-07 23:24:29] j8 : rullwull: did they actually?
[2017-01-07 23:24:36] BitMEX_Sam : 13:00 UTC daily @nOgAnOo
[2017-01-07 23:25:08] rullwull : yes, i got some btc back, but anyway they keep doing these things with the fee
[2017-01-07 23:25:21] BitMEX_Sam : I'm not sure I understand what the point of skimming fees would be... not only is it a tiny amount, but if you are a miner / have a close relationship with one, just collect the fee when you're mining
[2017-01-07 23:25:31] rapidtrades : i don't see how setting that high fee as minimum is fair to the users, just so u can cut down on support emails
[2017-01-07 23:25:43] premium_freak : what pisses me off more about OKC is their index calculation - I don't think it's correct
[2017-01-07 23:25:53] j8 : its ridiculous that they know about it, admit it's wrong, pay you off if you complain, and keep doing it
[2017-01-07 23:26:16] rullwull : so for now i always put 0.0002 and they send with 0.00018
[2017-01-07 23:26:32] rullwull : yes, they defiantly know about it
[2017-01-07 23:26:35] sleger : honestly i dont really care they do it as long as my transaction goes in the next block
[2017-01-07 23:26:45] sleger : rullwull: i do the same
[2017-01-07 23:26:58] sleger : they said i can open a ticket to get reimbursed, i did not
[2017-01-07 23:27:27] j8 : premium_freak: their index was completely wrong for like two weeks a few months ago, they dropped bitfinex and didn't add coinbase even though they said they had
[2017-01-07 23:27:42] rapidtrades : wow
[2017-01-07 23:27:55] premium_freak : j8: but it also seems like they put more weight on the chinese sites too
[2017-01-07 23:27:55] j8 : they settled on the wrong price at least once
[2017-01-07 23:27:57] rapidtrades : j8: so they overbalanced china?
[2017-01-07 23:28:03] j8 : yep 3/5
[2017-01-07 23:28:28] premium_freak : j8: sorry, I guess that's what you were saying :p it seems like it's almost always the case though
[2017-01-07 23:28:29] rapidtrades : okc is hella shady
[2017-01-07 23:29:27] j8 : premium_freak: they often have the wrong weight for china, because they use a delayed rate for USDCNY
[2017-01-07 23:29:57] j8 : when the yuan devalues their index overvalues the chinese exchanges
[2017-01-07 23:30:12] j8 : this week it's the opposite
[2017-01-07 23:30:33] rapidtrades : yeah they use the 2-week average
[2017-01-07 23:30:48] premium_freak : I usually just go long futures on OKC in situations like these, but they're rare
[2017-01-07 23:36:46] Dynamix : Its going to go down...
[2017-01-07 23:36:59] Dynamix : maybe new higher low
[2017-01-07 23:38:31] Dynamix : Huge sell walls lol
[2017-01-07 23:40:19] MikeHunt : maybe not
[2017-01-07 23:40:28] MikeHunt : usd/yuan suggests it may shoot up then dump
[2017-01-07 23:40:45] MikeHunt : or it will dump a bit to 5600 then shoot up n dump
[2017-01-07 23:40:58] MikeHunt : so far looking very bullish
[2017-01-07 23:41:18] nOgAnOo : indeed
[2017-01-07 23:41:55] bingbongfly : market is clearly not ready for a breakout upwards
[2017-01-07 23:41:58] bingbongfly : would have happened by now
[2017-01-07 23:42:11] bingbongfly : I suspect more chop/sideways
[2017-01-07 23:42:34] bingbongfly : I've closed all my longs at neglible profit, will just wait for a clear trade
[2017-01-07 23:42:35] MikeHunt : bingbongfly: well a minor drop could be profitable ;)
[2017-01-07 23:42:49] ayy_lmao : give it 20 mins
[2017-01-07 23:42:52] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: Could be, my plan is to wait for a more clear trade
[2017-01-07 23:43:41] MikeHunt : sell wall is pretty big
[2017-01-07 23:44:12] Dynamix : gone haha
[2017-01-07 23:46:46] MikeHunt : 1000 btc sell wall
[2017-01-07 23:47:24] Dynamix : where ? lol
[2017-01-07 23:48:31] MikeHunt : probably hold until 1am and then drop
[2017-01-07 23:48:39] MikeHunt : just to ensure no chinese rescue
[2017-01-07 23:49:18] Dynamix : I need it drop under 890 :)
[2017-01-07 23:49:30] Dynamix : long way till there..
[2017-01-07 23:49:38] Yazz : Dynamix: You're perma-short aren't you?!
[2017-01-07 23:49:46] nOgAnOo : You are all very special in my heart.
[2017-01-07 23:49:50] Dynamix : Yazz: haha
[2017-01-07 23:49:53] ayy_lmao : every day
[2017-01-07 23:49:54] Dynamix : not all the time :D
[2017-01-07 23:49:59] ayy_lmao : you say this
[2017-01-07 23:50:03] ayy_lmao : and i lauh
[2017-01-07 23:50:05] ayy_lmao : laugh
[2017-01-07 23:50:19] Dynamix : well sometimes it happens ;)
[2017-01-07 23:50:27] Dynamix : lol pumped
[2017-01-07 23:50:29] Dynamix : :))
[2017-01-07 23:50:32] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-01-07 23:50:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 150 @ 6595.2
[2017-01-07 23:50:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1 @ 942.15 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-07 23:50:42] nOgAnOo : Big green
[2017-01-07 23:50:44] Dynamix : That fomo ...
[2017-01-07 23:50:57] imabeast : lehgooooo
[2017-01-07 23:51:00] nOgAnOo : I had just shorted at 902 LOL
[2017-01-07 23:51:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 65363 @ 905.49 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-07 23:51:07] nOgAnOo : thankfully only 1000
[2017-01-07 23:51:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 23 @ 906.30
[2017-01-07 23:51:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4800 @ 906.35
[2017-01-07 23:51:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 300 @ 907.61
[2017-01-07 23:51:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 906.94
[2017-01-07 23:52:38] Dynamix : short from 887 ...
[2017-01-07 23:52:39] nOgAnOo : k, averaged up
[2017-01-07 23:52:46] Dynamix : its going to drop soon
[2017-01-07 23:52:46] nOgAnOo : entry price on short now 906
[2017-01-07 23:53:08] mors : in cases like these... where i have a short opened on 898... x10 leverage... should i just close it? when the market has gone opposite?
[2017-01-07 23:53:38] bingbongfly : mors: Depends, do you believe the price will go up from here? or down from here?
[2017-01-07 23:53:41] bingbongfly : what would you do if you had no position
[2017-01-07 23:53:51] rapidtrades : god damit, i was arbing and this pump picked one of my legs
[2017-01-07 23:53:54] bingbongfly : Are you a conservative trader that like to minimize losses?
[2017-01-07 23:53:57] Dynamix : where do you see the price going up to ?
[2017-01-07 23:54:01] bingbongfly : Many questions... it's individual
[2017-01-07 23:54:01] Dynamix : 920-930 ?
[2017-01-07 23:54:15] mors : not really that conservative... thanks bingbong
[2017-01-07 23:54:29] bingbongfly : mors: best tip I can give you if you are new is to make some paper trades and evaluate them..
[2017-01-07 23:54:36] bingbongfly : mors: np :)
[2017-01-07 23:54:38] MikeHunt : flick up n drop?
[2017-01-07 23:54:38] bingbongfly : good luck
[2017-01-07 23:55:18] anonymous123421 : don't trade with real money until you get a sense of how much leverage you can handle IMO, I wish I did that.
[2017-01-07 23:55:27] mors : yep... uhmm im only playing x10... 1-2 days ago i was doing x25-100x... its quite dangerous... 10x is manageable for me... but i might try 5x in the next few days
[2017-01-07 23:58:29] nOgAnOo : Big dump pl0x
[2017-01-07 23:59:28] abbey : anonymous123421: +1
[2017-01-07 23:59:29] MikeHunt : not totally sure we're gonna get it
[2017-01-08 00:00:30] anonymous123421 : I think I'm going to buy with 3x - 5x and hold for a few months. Day trading isn't for me.
[2017-01-08 00:00:48] nOgAnOo : looks like upward trend now
[2017-01-08 00:00:58] nOgAnOo : but I don't believe my eyes
[2017-01-08 00:01:03] nOgAnOo : bitcoin belongs at 850!!!
[2017-01-08 00:01:19] premium_freak : nOgAnOo: $1000 I'm telling you :p
[2017-01-08 00:01:34] nOgAnOo : Yeah, I'll buy you a Cheeseburger when you lose everything
[2017-01-08 00:01:51] premium_freak : nOgAnOo: I can't lose it all, I'm at 0.57x leverage
[2017-01-08 00:02:08] nOgAnOo : "can't lose"
[2017-01-08 00:02:20] anonymous123421 : nOgAnOo: Can you actually do that? I'm hungry
[2017-01-08 00:02:21] nOgAnOo : isn't that what they said when they bought tickets on the titanic?
[2017-01-08 00:02:39] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: "god cant sink this ship" said press
[2017-01-08 00:02:43] MikeHunt : turns out he can...
[2017-01-08 00:02:46] nOgAnOo : LOL!!!!!
[2017-01-08 00:03:15] MikeHunt : now to 5.6k for handle?
[2017-01-08 00:05:08] CaptainDean : current trend is still up
[2017-01-08 00:05:34] anonymous123421 : How should I determine when to buy? I feel like I make bad choices and the market destroys me for them. I think I'll buy and hold with low leverage from now on.
[2017-01-08 00:06:01] nOgAnOo : anonymous, there are 1000 factors
[2017-01-08 00:06:08] abbey : THE handle doesn't need 5.6k anymore @MikeHunt
[2017-01-08 00:06:12] nOgAnOo : if you want to trade along with me you can join my discord server
[2017-01-08 00:06:21] MikeHunt : abbey: here is enough?
[2017-01-08 00:06:30] anonymous123421 : nOgAnOo: sure
[2017-01-08 00:06:46] abbey : MikeHunt: dunno, sorry
[2017-01-08 00:06:51] nOgAnOo : http://discord.cyberfield.tech
[2017-01-08 00:07:40] abbey : MikeHunt: maybe 6000 possible
[2017-01-08 00:07:59] abbey : i really haven't got a clue
[2017-01-08 00:08:30] MikeHunt : down
[2017-01-08 00:08:43] MikeHunt : its weak it break through that trend line
[2017-01-08 00:08:54] MikeHunt : through center
[2017-01-08 00:10:10] abbey : double bottom possible too, 5555, moon from here is possible also, not to mention doom ;)
[2017-01-08 00:10:41] aethlios : daily closed positive.
[2017-01-08 00:10:57] wojteklofi : hello no speak engl use translator ;) or here, is available stoploss?
[2017-01-08 00:12:14] MikeHunt : wojteklofi: Stop Market
[2017-01-08 00:12:54] abbey : MikeHunt: anyhow, looks really bullish to me
[2017-01-08 00:13:45] Adriana : wojteklofi: what do you speak natively?
[2017-01-08 00:14:54] wojteklofi : am a translator and poland google translator;)
[2017-01-08 00:15:16] Dynamix : well these fake pumps ...
[2017-01-08 00:18:35] MikeHunt : oh no
[2017-01-08 00:18:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 59247 @ 899.72 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-08 00:21:12] BitMEX_Sam : wojteklofi: zobacz po lewej stronie, w gornym rogu kliknij "Stop Market"
[2017-01-08 00:22:04] sleger : wow !
[2017-01-08 00:22:54] Dynamix : will go down lower...
[2017-01-08 00:22:57] Dynamix : support is down
[2017-01-08 00:23:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 901.51
[2017-01-08 00:25:50] Alignment : sleger how much are u up on bitmex
[2017-01-08 00:26:04] sleger : Alignment: why ?
[2017-01-08 00:26:07] sleger : what would that mean ?
[2017-01-08 00:26:32] Alignment : just curious to what kind of money can be made trading
[2017-01-08 00:26:49] sleger : i mostly have cross exchange positions so i could make 100btc on one exchange and lose 80 on another
[2017-01-08 00:27:09] Alignment : do you do that for hedging your positions?
[2017-01-08 00:27:23] sleger : but lets say here 3 digits
[2017-01-08 00:27:33] Alignment : life time?
[2017-01-08 00:27:39] Alignment : how old is this site
[2017-01-08 00:27:47] sleger : 2y+
[2017-01-08 00:28:11] Alignment : thats not that much
[2017-01-08 00:28:29] Alignment : im from the poker world and during the golden days good players would make 100k/month easily
[2017-01-08 00:28:50] Alignment : well the very good ones
[2017-01-08 00:29:02] sleger : Alignment: https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2017-01-08 00:29:29] Alignment : yeah i saw that, thats why im asking, but i wondered if a lot were hiding their results
[2017-01-08 00:29:40] sleger : im sure people at 0kcoin would have made much more in top 10
[2017-01-08 00:29:57] sleger : Alignment: these results are already hidden, dont the names sound weird to you ?
[2017-01-08 00:30:00] sleger : its anonymised
[2017-01-08 00:30:03] Rado2 : sleger: what is the first letter of your nick on the leader board?
[2017-01-08 00:30:13] Alignment : yeah but you can hide your profits too
[2017-01-08 00:30:13] sleger : Rado2: nice try
[2017-01-08 00:30:23] nOgAnOo : Rado I am up to 82 dollars
[2017-01-08 00:30:26] nOgAnOo : 1200% today
[2017-01-08 00:30:29] sleger : Alignment: ok forgot about that
[2017-01-08 00:30:49] Alignment : sleger, do you only trade btcs? or altcoins too?
[2017-01-08 00:31:10] sleger : some alts but not much
[2017-01-08 00:35:17] Rado2 : nOgAnOo: great
[2017-01-08 00:38:32] Speran49 : this black-quartz-muse in leaderboard
[2017-01-08 00:38:33] Speran49 : so crazy
[2017-01-08 00:38:39] Speran49 : 142932%
[2017-01-08 00:38:40] Speran49 : wtf
[2017-01-08 00:42:15] jan : Hi is that leaderboard from year ? month?
[2017-01-08 00:42:41] Speran49 : it doesnt say timeframe
[2017-01-08 00:43:56] Dtrade16 : Guys are we bullish on the hourly or do I have that wrong?
[2017-01-08 00:45:42] MikeHunt : looks like cup handle
[2017-01-08 00:45:44] MikeHunt : then moon
[2017-01-08 00:45:51] MikeHunt : according to usd/cnh charts
[2017-01-08 00:46:09] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: you see they squeeze shorts first
[2017-01-08 00:46:16] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: the go lower
[2017-01-08 00:46:50] hwrenqr : lol
[2017-01-08 00:47:10] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yeh as low to ~$860
[2017-01-08 00:47:12] Dtrade16 : ??
[2017-01-08 00:47:31] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: 780
[2017-01-08 00:47:35] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: im using CNH so 5600-5800 what ever that translates to
[2017-01-08 00:47:55] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: CNY you mean
[2017-01-08 00:48:14] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: CNH is offshore yuan
[2017-01-08 00:48:18] MikeHunt : thats what dailyfx chart says
[2017-01-08 00:48:37] Dynamix : well
[2017-01-08 00:48:42] Dynamix : the short happened haha
[2017-01-08 00:48:53] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: but you are trading xbt/usd
[2017-01-08 00:49:01] alejandromasari : why dont you look at the xbtusd chart
[2017-01-08 00:49:06] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: imo the chinese lead the pack
[2017-01-08 00:49:40] MikeHunt : i trade xbt/usd here but use okc charts for reference
[2017-01-08 00:51:47] MikeHunt : charts suggest a drop to ~$840 max
[2017-01-08 00:51:57] MikeHunt : then power up to 900
[2017-01-08 00:52:13] MikeHunt : 920*
[2017-01-08 00:53:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 916 @ 6474.1
[2017-01-08 00:53:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15 @ 927.55
[2017-01-08 00:53:02] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-01-08 00:53:13] Dtrade16 : I say we rip to 850 and up to 950 soon
[2017-01-08 00:53:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 895.21
[2017-01-08 00:53:28] MikeHunt : yup, long/short squeeze then pump
[2017-01-08 00:53:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 18548 @ 893.18
[2017-01-08 00:54:24] Dtrade16 : There have been over a million contracts purchased within the last 2-3 days
[2017-01-08 00:54:53] Dtrade16 : Who's got the most capital here?
[2017-01-08 00:55:02] Dtrade16 : Any whales?
[2017-01-08 00:56:20] Dtrade16 : There's a million dollar buy order on finex at like 780 or something
[2017-01-08 00:56:36] ytaews : cool
[2017-01-08 00:58:31] Dtrade16 : I say special interest groups own BTC
[2017-01-08 00:58:47] Dtrade16 : It's no different than banks that own gold
[2017-01-08 00:58:51] Dtrade16 : They play with the price
[2017-01-08 00:58:57] sleger : lol
[2017-01-08 00:59:08] Dtrade16 : Pump and dump via bullshit news they create
[2017-01-08 00:59:20] sleger : i say whoever can put the largest order sell zcash at 1.0 has the biggest balance
[2017-01-08 01:00:45] Dynamix : We willgo more down
[2017-01-08 01:02:07] Dtrade16 : Do you guys think it's a coincidence that this news always appears after ATHs or close to?
[2017-01-08 01:02:07] Dtrade16 : Lol
[2017-01-08 01:02:16] Dtrade16 : They must think we're stupid
[2017-01-08 01:02:29] Dtrade16 : Which a lot of people are of course
[2017-01-08 01:03:41] rapidtrades : sleger: don't block the ZEC!
[2017-01-08 01:06:20] JMG99 : Is PnL calculation for Swap intentioanally 1/EntryPrice-1/ExitPrice? Normally PnL calulation would be 1/ExitPrice-1/EntryPrice.
[2017-01-08 01:06:55] Chewie : JMG99: Yes, it's an inverse contract
[2017-01-08 01:07:27] Chewie : ..
[2017-01-08 01:07:37] sleger : "Normally PnL calulation would be 1/ExitPrice-1/EntryPrice." <= hmm where ?
[2017-01-08 01:08:07] Dtrade16 : Why are people short while we're in an uptrend?
[2017-01-08 01:08:15] Chewie : maybe if ur short
[2017-01-08 01:08:17] JMG99 : 100 Profit entered from 600 would result in 16.66% profit but according to the swap pnl calulation, it's 14.28% profit.
[2017-01-08 01:08:29] sleger : Chewie: indeed, but i dont think thats what he meant
[2017-01-08 01:08:44] Chewie : I dont think he knows what he meant
[2017-01-08 01:08:56] sleger : agreed
[2017-01-08 01:09:55] Chewie : why dont u try stick to the PNL calculator @JMG99
[2017-01-08 01:11:42] JMG99 : oops sorry I misunderstood something. I got it now.
[2017-01-08 01:11:59] rapidtrades : now kraken has 0.0005 u can't change
[2017-01-08 01:11:59] JMG99 : I was confused about xbt and usd...
[2017-01-08 01:12:01] rapidtrades : wtf ppl
[2017-01-08 01:12:08] rapidtrades : stop nickle and diming us
[2017-01-08 01:12:47] rapidtrades : 45 cents fee for bitcoin, 9 cents for SEPA
[2017-01-08 01:12:52] rapidtrades : makes sense kraken
[2017-01-08 01:13:28] aandy : its been hovering 900 for a while now...
[2017-01-08 01:14:36] Dtrade16 : aandy: Are you short?
[2017-01-08 01:15:08] aandy : yea at 890,69
[2017-01-08 01:15:39] Dtrade16 : aandy: What's the reason?
[2017-01-08 01:15:51] Dtrade16 : Aren't we trending up on the 15 min chart?
[2017-01-08 01:16:14] aandy : i opened this 3 hours ago
[2017-01-08 01:16:17] rapidtrades : omg the 15m chart! bears watch out
[2017-01-08 01:17:13] Dtrade16 : rapidtrades: What chart should I be looking at then genius?
[2017-01-08 01:17:52] Dtrade16 : There have been over a million contracts bought in the last 1 or 2 I'm wondering why people are short
[2017-01-08 01:22:21] Dynamix : 1min
[2017-01-08 01:24:12] Dtrade16 : Ok
[2017-01-08 01:24:18] Dtrade16 : Thanks
[2017-01-08 01:27:44] rapidtrades : 43 secs
[2017-01-08 01:28:41] rapidtrades : btce 848 dollars kraken 858 euros
[2017-01-08 01:28:44] rapidtrades : LOL
[2017-01-08 01:36:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 50 @ 932.35
[2017-01-08 01:39:40] Dynamix : There it goes
[2017-01-08 01:46:52] rapidtrades : https://uk.style.yahoo.com/it-looks-like-mens-chokers-will-be-a-thing-in-2017-023711213.html
[2017-01-08 01:46:59] rapidtrades : ^ LOL
[2017-01-08 01:51:27] rapidtrades : daily chart looks ugly as sin
[2017-01-08 01:52:44] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: are they trying to be dogs?
[2017-01-08 01:55:11] Dtrade16 : A trend for queers maybe
[2017-01-08 01:56:41] amirmass : moon time
[2017-01-08 01:57:41] amirmass : long X100 or gtfo
[2017-01-08 01:58:43] nOgAnOo : ugh
[2017-01-08 01:58:45] nOgAnOo : I wanna sleep
[2017-01-08 01:58:46] nOgAnOo : GO UP
[2017-01-08 01:58:50] nOgAnOo : GO UP CHINA
[2017-01-08 01:58:56] nOgAnOo : I'M TIRED
[2017-01-08 01:59:14] nOgAnOo : We KNOW you want 8888 again
[2017-01-08 01:59:20] nOgAnOo : and to break through this time
[2017-01-08 01:59:43] nOgAnOo : Make Altcoins Great Again
[2017-01-08 01:59:50] Yazz : I don't think that will be happening anytime soon
[2017-01-08 01:59:56] MikeHunt : Dtrade16: well u know...furfags
[2017-01-08 02:00:17] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: usd/cny suggests it could hang aeround
[2017-01-08 02:00:32] nOgAnOo : It might do noghint?
[2017-01-08 02:00:36] nOgAnOo : I could close out here at a tiny profit
[2017-01-08 02:00:50] nOgAnOo : But I need more!
[2017-01-08 02:01:00] nOgAnOo : I want to buy nice gifts for my friends
[2017-01-08 02:01:03] Yazz : up to $70 in front today?
[2017-01-08 02:01:15] nOgAnOo : 75 right now.. until this trade is over
[2017-01-08 02:01:36] nOgAnOo : Waiting for a massive pump
[2017-01-08 02:02:04] anonymous123421 : CJINA
[2017-01-08 02:02:05] Yazz : it was around this time yesterday when it dumped again
[2017-01-08 02:02:25] nOgAnOo : yes, I heard about their dumping rituals
[2017-01-08 02:02:31] arezki : HELLO, what is the currency you offer me bought and you thought it will increase its% ???
[2017-01-08 02:02:34] anonymous123421 : Isn't it morning in china right now?
[2017-01-08 02:03:14] Yazz : 10am BJ
[2017-01-08 02:04:16] anonymous123421 : GOOD MORNING VIIETNAM
[2017-01-08 02:05:44] Formiga : Hey peoples, how do I get my referral link to send to a friend?
[2017-01-08 02:05:51] nOgAnOo : Good morning Vietnam, please invest in coin
[2017-01-08 02:07:35] BitMEX_Sam : Formiga: Go to https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2017-01-08 02:07:43] nOgAnOo : I'm listening to the Bible while I trade
[2017-01-08 02:07:45] nOgAnOo : Multitasking
[2017-01-08 02:09:06] olimano1 : XBT has slowed down a lot in the last hour or so
[2017-01-08 02:09:23] nOgAnOo : No heartbeat
[2017-01-08 02:09:32] nOgAnOo : Just when I get up to a good amount of money..
[2017-01-08 02:10:21] nOgAnOo : HERE WE GO CHINA
[2017-01-08 02:10:23] nOgAnOo : I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT
[2017-01-08 02:10:35] nOgAnOo : DRINK SOME COFFEE OR TEA
[2017-01-08 02:13:52] nOgAnOo : Here we go
[2017-01-08 02:13:54] nOgAnOo : Finally!
[2017-01-08 02:20:18] Yazz : Seems BTC is taking Sunday off
[2017-01-08 02:20:56] nOgAnOo : I sold at a small profit
[2017-01-08 02:21:00] nOgAnOo : after staring at the screen 2 hours lol
[2017-01-08 02:27:44] aandy : dude its been 900 for so long
[2017-01-08 02:27:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 50 @ 941.69
[2017-01-08 02:31:56] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2017-01-08 02:31:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2 @ 903.88 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-08 02:31:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3 @ 903.93 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-08 02:33:45] anonymous123421 : Those gains!
[2017-01-08 02:34:53] Dynamix : Big dump coming
[2017-01-08 02:35:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 15000 @ 6647.0
[2017-01-08 02:35:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 1500 @ 6654.9
[2017-01-08 02:37:30] ayy_lmao : i wish moo was here to see this
[2017-01-08 02:37:38] Wings : looks like a reverse head and shoulders in BTC... no ?
[2017-01-08 02:37:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20001 @ 910.62
[2017-01-08 02:38:05] Dtrade16 : Damn
[2017-01-08 02:41:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 393 @ 913.37
[2017-01-08 02:44:30] aandy : moo is probably already liquidated
[2017-01-08 02:46:21] Dtrade16 : aandy: shorted?
[2017-01-08 02:47:15] ayy_lmao : this is only beginning btw
[2017-01-08 02:48:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 90000 @ 915.08 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-08 02:48:26] 24hourz : wow
[2017-01-08 02:48:27] 24hourz : wow
[2017-01-08 02:48:28] 24hourz : wow
[2017-01-08 02:49:06] premium_freak : would be fun to see the username who got liquidated :)
[2017-01-08 02:49:27] Dynamix : We are going to 1000
[2017-01-08 02:50:52] nOgAnOo : Ugh
[2017-01-08 02:50:54] nOgAnOo : I need to sleep
[2017-01-08 02:50:57] nOgAnOo : Should trade tired
[2017-01-08 02:51:16] nOgAnOo : just lost 80% of my profits
[2017-01-08 02:51:28] Dtrade16 : nOgAnOo: You're short?
[2017-01-08 02:51:35] nOgAnOo : i was scalping all day
[2017-01-08 02:51:37] Dtrade16 : Why would you short right now?
[2017-01-08 02:51:37] premium_freak : I warned you not to short dude
[2017-01-08 02:51:52] nOgAnOo : Dtrade... umm
[2017-01-08 02:51:56] nOgAnOo : I've been trading all day
[2017-01-08 02:51:58] Dtrade16 : You can't gauge whats going on?
[2017-01-08 02:52:02] nOgAnOo : I just happend to be in short position
[2017-01-08 02:52:05] nOgAnOo : don't ask questions
[2017-01-08 02:52:06] Dtrade16 : nOgAnOo: That's bad
[2017-01-08 02:52:15] nOgAnOo : you're an idiot
[2017-01-08 02:52:23] Dtrade16 : Why?
[2017-01-08 02:52:35] nOgAnOo : "WHY WOULD YOU"
[2017-01-08 02:52:39] nOgAnOo : "THAT'S BAD"
[2017-01-08 02:52:43] nOgAnOo : way to be constructive
[2017-01-08 02:52:55] 24hourz : rekts incoming
[2017-01-08 02:53:07] Dtrade16 : I didn't mean to be rude sorry bro
[2017-01-08 02:53:21] Dynamix : Up we go :)
[2017-01-08 02:53:55] Dtrade16 : Give me 910 mfer!
[2017-01-08 02:55:02] Dtrade16 : Almost 100k futures just bought in last 2 hours
[2017-01-08 02:55:46] Dtrade16 : Looks like we're going up
[2017-01-08 02:56:02] Dtrade16 : Any targets? 1000?
[2017-01-08 02:56:11] premium_freak : 950 should be easy
[2017-01-08 02:56:13] Dynamix : Dtrade16: yup
[2017-01-08 02:56:23] Dtrade16 : Dynamix: You long?
[2017-01-08 02:56:30] Dynamix : Yup
[2017-01-08 02:56:38] Dtrade16 : How much? :)
[2017-01-08 02:57:06] MikeHunt : wait for correction before buying
[2017-01-08 02:57:13] MikeHunt : could come down hard
[2017-01-08 02:57:27] nOgAnOo : UP DOWN I DON'T KNWO
[2017-01-08 02:57:28] nOgAnOo : lol
[2017-01-08 02:57:36] jedisatoshi : MikeHunt: you still trying to short?
[2017-01-08 02:57:40] MikeHunt : jedisatoshi: no
[2017-01-08 02:57:44] weather b0y4 : glad i bought futures 855 yesterday lol
[2017-01-08 02:57:47] MikeHunt : jedisatoshi: i mean before long + leverage
[2017-01-08 02:57:47] jedisatoshi : MikeHunt: well thats good
[2017-01-08 02:58:02] jedisatoshi : im still holding my long from last night at 819
[2017-01-08 02:58:09] weather b0y4 : now im back to where i was before trying to catch knives -_-
[2017-01-08 02:58:25] ayy_lmao : just long and hold
[2017-01-08 02:58:26] ayy_lmao : this isnt hard
[2017-01-08 02:58:33] arezki : I buy the bitcoin or I sell?
[2017-01-08 02:58:39] jedisatoshi : ayy_lmao: exactly
[2017-01-08 02:59:09] premium_freak : it's hard to resist selling now :p
[2017-01-08 03:00:32] nOgAnOo : well I'm out
[2017-01-08 03:00:38] Dynamix : To sell or nah ?
[2017-01-08 03:00:39] premium_freak : cu nOgAnOo
[2017-01-08 03:00:40] nOgAnOo : lost 70 and paid back my friend 10 bucks
[2017-01-08 03:00:46] nOgAnOo : and I need to sleep!
[2017-01-08 03:00:50] nOgAnOo : Was a great experience today
[2017-01-08 03:00:53] nOgAnOo : learned a bit more
[2017-01-08 03:00:58] nOgAnOo : Well worth it.
[2017-01-08 03:01:04] Dynamix : Nice :)
[2017-01-08 03:01:07] nOgAnOo : Plus I got to meet more awesome trollers
[2017-01-08 03:01:22] nOgAnOo : My steemit payout is in 2 days so oh well :)
[2017-01-08 03:01:33] nOgAnOo : Take care guys, trade safe. Love u.
[2017-01-08 03:02:28] ayy_lmao : once everyone in this chat is telling you to long, you close
[2017-01-08 03:02:39] ayy_lmao : for now everyone still trying to short
[2017-01-08 03:02:41] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-08 03:02:48] datboiyuan : If I cancel the trade before it gets filled, do I still pay. fees?
[2017-01-08 03:02:54] ayy_lmao : no
[2017-01-08 03:03:23] premium_freak : I don't get why anyone would short right after a 20+% drop
[2017-01-08 03:03:36] datboiyuan : im short
[2017-01-08 03:03:39] ayy_lmao : you actually get payed for maker orders
[2017-01-08 03:03:44] nOgAnOo : Yes
[2017-01-08 03:03:47] nOgAnOo : I trade for fees
[2017-01-08 03:03:59] nOgAnOo : Worked until I tried trading tired
[2017-01-08 03:04:05] nOgAnOo : was up 1200%
[2017-01-08 03:04:41] nOgAnOo : Don't trade tired guys.
[2017-01-08 03:04:57] ayy_lmao : nothing worse than falling asleep at the trading desk lol
[2017-01-08 03:05:46] nOgAnOo : My friend did that yesterday.. was up 175% then got liquidated
[2017-01-08 03:06:00] weather b0y4 : how much did he lose?
[2017-01-08 03:06:23] nOgAnOo : 150
[2017-01-08 03:06:42] nOgAnOo : Ok just did a 25% scalp now off to bed
[2017-01-08 03:06:53] sleger : nOgAnOo: rekted again ?
[2017-01-08 03:07:05] weather b0y4 : okay, so relatively small amounts
[2017-01-08 03:07:11] QuantFocus : choo choo