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[2015-11-04 18:53:29] BitMEX_Sam : You can then add/remove margin at will to reach your desired leverage.
[2015-11-04 18:53:39] dorothy490 : you guys should also have a separate column which is showing Unrealized PNL versus medium of current orderbook or smth
[2015-11-04 18:53:55] dorothy490 : cause it's totally confusing on violatility
[2015-11-04 18:53:57] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: Yes I agree,
[2015-11-04 18:54:11] BitMEX_Sam : We've been working on making the mark price follow last more closely
[2015-11-04 18:54:17] BitMEX_Sam : Which will mitigate the issue somewhat.
[2015-11-04 18:55:15] dorothy490 : also I dont get how to setup stop loss for the short orders. For example I had that short opened at ~514 and price was like ~500 then I wanted to issue a "stop loss" like if price reach 511 new order to match my short should be raisesed at 512
[2015-11-04 18:55:32] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2015-11-04 18:55:44] dorothy490 : so I tried to use "stop limit" with stop limit buy
[2015-11-04 18:55:48] BitMEX_Sam : You would do a Buy stop, Stop Price 511, Limit Price 512
[2015-11-04 18:56:59] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: Could a stop loss order be made that sets a limit but then executes a market order if that limit hasn't been filled after x seconds?
[2015-11-04 18:57:08] roymalmberg : germanjew: If price settle at the TWAP, does this mean the price will trade closer to TWAP before settlement?
[2015-11-04 18:57:18] BitMEX_Sam : At this time, no, but that would be a nice order type
[2015-11-04 18:57:19] Murch : Just as a sort of insurance.
[2015-11-04 18:57:35] BitMEX_Sam : We plan to add some more order types in the future
[2015-11-04 18:57:52] Murch : Cool looking forward to it
[2015-11-04 18:58:03] BitMEX_Sam : I don't suggest sleeping in this market anyway :)
[2015-11-04 18:58:14] Murch : I'm sure this rally has been quite profitable for you guys which makes me happy
[2015-11-04 18:58:28] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah it's been quite good
[2015-11-04 18:58:37] BitMEX_Sam : More than anything I'm happy to see the trollbox more active than it's ever been
[2015-11-04 18:58:59] Murch : True dat.
[2015-11-04 18:59:08] zanza : lol
[2015-11-04 18:59:21] zanza : trollbox indicator
[2015-11-04 18:59:34] BitMEX_Sam : But for a company that takes all profit in Bitcoin, Bitcoin suddenly doubling in price is a very nice thing
[2015-11-04 18:59:49] germanjew : can we speculate on trollbox activity?
[2015-11-04 18:59:53] germanjew : :D
[2015-11-04 18:59:55] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: hahaha
[2015-11-04 19:00:19] BitMEX_Sam : germanjew: too open to manipulation
[2015-11-04 19:00:24] BitMEX_Sam : would get rekt :D
[2015-11-04 19:00:29] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: 1 week ago, there were maybe 10 words/hour here
[2015-11-04 19:00:32] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-04 19:00:38] germanjew : I am really enjoying trading your 24H and 7D contract
[2015-11-04 19:00:50] germanjew : BitMEX_Sam: true dat :D
[2015-11-04 19:00:53] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, glad to see you still around germanjew, IIRC you've been here for a while
[2015-11-04 19:01:13] BitMEX_Sam : Back when we were 3-5x leverage
[2015-11-04 19:01:19] germanjew : thats right
[2015-11-04 19:01:48] BitMEX_Sam : A lot has changed since then.
[2015-11-04 19:02:18] Murch : Yep this place has only gotten better I must say
[2015-11-04 19:02:33] germanjew : yes, plenty! and all for the better
[2015-11-04 19:03:08] wurstgelee : well..not for all. someone has to pay those winnings some make ;)
[2015-11-04 19:03:45] Murch : That would be... us
[2015-11-04 19:03:46] nickhnt : next stop 680 ;D
[2015-11-04 19:03:50] zanza : BitMEX_Sam , i notice in the `Settlement History Table` it seems there hasn't been an adjustment lately
[2015-11-04 19:04:12] zanza : does that mean your algo's are pretty accurate?
[2015-11-04 19:04:40] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: Yeah it means there has been enough liquidity to pick up liquidations
[2015-11-04 19:05:09] zanza : even in the past few weeks, thats pretty impressive
[2015-11-04 19:05:16] Murch : me gusta
[2015-11-04 19:05:20] BitMEX_Sam : The mark price system makes it all possible
[2015-11-04 19:05:27] germanjew : very impressive
[2015-11-04 19:05:28] zanza : real MVP?
[2015-11-04 19:05:29] BitMEX_Sam : A margin call cascade is impossible on BitMEX
[2015-11-04 19:05:38] wurstgelee : so moon again, you say? =)
[2015-11-04 19:05:44] BitMEX_Sam : Hah. Sure
[2015-11-04 19:06:20] dorothy490 : do you gues only 3 in the project?
[2015-11-04 19:07:37] BitMEX_Sam : dorothy490: Say again?
[2015-11-04 19:07:51] dorothy490 : do you guys*
[2015-11-04 19:07:59] dorothy490 : having only 3 persons in this project
[2015-11-04 19:08:56] dorothy490 : cause I've jsut usbmitted a ticket and wondering how many other tickets you might possibly got; quite stressful for you perhaps :p
[2015-11-04 19:10:54] BitMEX_Sam : Ah - yes there have been a lot in this rally. It's mainly the three of us, but we have some new help incoming
[2015-11-04 19:12:04] AudibleScience : I made a mistake! Not sure what to do now...
[2015-11-04 19:12:13] Murch : Don't panic
[2015-11-04 19:12:35] Murch : Try to close your position near the price you opened
[2015-11-04 19:12:45] AudibleScience : I have a massive short
[2015-11-04 19:12:53] Murch : Oh god that was you just now?
[2015-11-04 19:13:03] AudibleScience : yeah
[2015-11-04 19:13:12] AudibleScience : It was an accident...
[2015-11-04 19:13:17] Murch : that sucks :/
[2015-11-04 19:13:23] Murch : you may have to eat the loss :(
[2015-11-04 19:13:35] AudibleScience : I was just trying to close my long into it...
[2015-11-04 19:13:41] dorothy490 : you know how does they say in p? push and pray
[2015-11-04 19:13:47] dorothy490 : in poke
[2015-11-04 19:13:55] Murch : Just buy back at 533-535 maybe
[2015-11-04 19:14:34] Yumi : Sam, how is profit on contact from just this week called in api call?
[2015-11-04 19:14:44] Murch : Or you could wait for it to come down if you think it's gonna do that
[2015-11-04 19:14:59] Yumi : rebalancedPnl ? prevRealisedPnl ?
[2015-11-04 19:15:22] j8 : taxableMargin i think @Yumi
[2015-11-04 19:17:17] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: unrealisedPnl
[2015-11-04 19:17:20] joequant : xbt7d selling for 530
[2015-11-04 19:17:31] AudibleScience : Murch: lol I don't think it's going to do that! after this big dump we just had... do you man?
[2015-11-04 19:18:14] AudibleScience : But I can't liquidate it either as I'm so thin on the margin right now!
[2015-11-04 19:18:51] Yumi : I have 0 unrealisedPNL, position is closed
[2015-11-04 19:18:51] AudibleScience : what a nightmare!
[2015-11-04 19:19:09] ohmannomma : all time high on btce?
[2015-11-04 19:19:16] Murch : Why is Wally not on the team page?
[2015-11-04 19:19:22] habibi : Murch: so after fast corection we will hit new high same as previous days in ur opinion?
[2015-11-04 19:19:40] Murch : habibi: that looks to be what's going on right now
[2015-11-04 19:19:44] Crypto Wealth : AudibleScience: I feel your pain, I made some dumb mistakes too this week. Trying to multitask.
[2015-11-04 19:19:53] germanjew : that is normally the pattern we have been seeing
[2015-11-04 19:20:22] germanjew : I was liquidated earlier this week because of a mistake :(
[2015-11-04 19:20:23] Murch : AudibleScience: I feel like it's not gonna come down man :(
[2015-11-04 19:20:26] j8 : easy to make mistakes when you're used the price starting with a 2
[2015-11-04 19:20:35] AudibleScience : this day was all set to be fantastic too! what a bummer!
[2015-11-04 19:20:50] Murch : AudibleScience: That really sucks
[2015-11-04 19:21:03] Yumi : yea taxableMargin makes sense, thanks @j8
[2015-11-04 19:21:18] Murch : Oh here maybe
[2015-11-04 19:21:25] Murch : try to close some out, put your limit orders
[2015-11-04 19:21:36] Murch : at like 528 or something
[2015-11-04 19:21:44] j8 : looking again i think realisedPnl is just from this week also. rebalancedPnl is from previous weeks
[2015-11-04 19:22:01] AudibleScience : that's me in the corner!
[2015-11-04 19:22:08] Murch : AudibleScience: you getting filled?
[2015-11-04 19:22:19] AudibleScience : yeah a bit
[2015-11-04 19:22:25] Murch : Nice nice!
[2015-11-04 19:22:47] germanjew : lol @ Each contract is worth 0.00001 XBT per $1 price, currently 0.0052358000000000005 XBT.
[2015-11-04 19:23:45] germanjew : we will probably see a small retraction again, hope you can use that
[2015-11-04 19:23:55] habibi : another bear trap?
[2015-11-04 19:23:57] habibi : bull*
[2015-11-04 19:24:11] Murch : AudibleScience: You're probably outta there by now right?
[2015-11-04 19:24:24] AudibleScience : not yet man...
[2015-11-04 19:24:32] AudibleScience : it was so low...
[2015-11-04 19:24:49] AudibleScience : but it did get 10k off my back
[2015-11-04 19:24:53] Murch : I thought it was 527?
[2015-11-04 19:25:00] wurstgelee : thank gawd, a dump. i was out of longs ;)
[2015-11-04 19:26:17] Murch : China, you crazy, gurl
[2015-11-04 19:26:22] habibi : lel that price action
[2015-11-04 19:27:01] Murch : wurstgelee: You manage to load up again?
[2015-11-04 19:27:17] sleger : so the bot went from 15k to 12k to 10k to 8k to 5k to 3k to 2k to 1k to now 500 ?? Next is 50 or 10 ?
[2015-11-04 19:27:30] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-04 19:27:45] wurstgelee : Murch: no, no a single contract
[2015-11-04 19:27:51] wurstgelee : dump to weak
[2015-11-04 19:27:54] wurstgelee : *too
[2015-11-04 19:27:55] Murch : wurstgelee: That's a boner kill
[2015-11-04 19:28:08] wurstgelee : well yes. but im good for today
[2015-11-04 19:28:14] habibi : btce dont know which way to go :D
[2015-11-04 19:28:22] wurstgelee : only relatively safe things if opportunity arises ;)
[2015-11-04 19:28:58] Murch : Almost back to where I was before getting liquidated earlier
[2015-11-04 19:29:00] Murch : thank the lawd
[2015-11-04 19:29:50] Yumi : this 24H vs 7D thingy makes no sense
[2015-11-04 19:30:36] dynamike23 : I summon thee bearwhale
[2015-11-04 19:30:40] dynamike23 : reveal yourself
[2015-11-04 19:30:46] j8 : it makes even less sense tomorrow when they have the same expiry but probably won't trade at the same price
[2015-11-04 19:30:58] zanza : heh
[2015-11-04 19:31:12] roymalmberg : they get settled every thursday?
[2015-11-04 19:31:26] j8 : friday at noon GMT
[2015-11-04 19:31:30] Yumi : daily every day, weekly every friday
[2015-11-04 19:31:35] roymalmberg : what day is it ,haha
[2015-11-04 19:31:44] Murch : hump day
[2015-11-04 19:31:47] Murch : wednesday
[2015-11-04 19:31:50] roymalmberg : You from china?
[2015-11-04 19:32:08] Murch : No, US
[2015-11-04 19:32:10] Murch : lol
[2015-11-04 19:32:20] Murch : Isn't it almost Thursday in China?
[2015-11-04 19:32:28] roymalmberg : I think so
[2015-11-04 19:32:40] Yumi : Fair price of daily is $30 higher than of weekly
[2015-11-04 19:33:06] roymalmberg : sounds fair
[2015-11-04 19:33:17] Murch : only because nobody is trading on weekly
[2015-11-04 19:33:20] Murch : but they might tomorrow
[2015-11-04 19:33:28] j8 : weekly isn't using the new adjustment thing
[2015-11-04 19:33:37] j8 : and it's been marked quite low all day
[2015-11-04 19:33:42] Yumi : yea I noticed
[2015-11-04 19:33:46] Murch : Yeah that too
[2015-11-04 19:34:00] Murch : This price is based on the orders here on bitmex too for 24h
[2015-11-04 19:34:01] Yumi : its just weird
[2015-11-04 19:34:20] j8 : it's an easy arb except for risk of DPE
[2015-11-04 19:34:39] Murch : you need to do cross to do arb I feel like
[2015-11-04 19:34:42] Murch : it would just be easier
[2015-11-04 19:34:54] Murch : Oh you said DPE
[2015-11-04 19:34:59] j8 : it still doesn't work that well. i did a lot of it on this run up
[2015-11-04 19:35:03] Murch : yeah true, but it hasn't been very high here historically
[2015-11-04 19:35:19] j8 : i had big losses and bigger gains, but now the gains might have DPE
[2015-11-04 19:35:29] Yumi : same here @j8
[2015-11-04 19:35:35] Murch : Oh shit I see the problem
[2015-11-04 19:35:48] j8 : so 2% adjustment of net profits isn't bad
[2015-11-04 19:35:58] j8 : but it's almost 2% of my whole balance
[2015-11-04 19:36:02] Murch : Yeah not too bad
[2015-11-04 19:36:12] j8 : cause it's not net
[2015-11-04 19:36:30] Murch : You arbed your entire balance?
[2015-11-04 19:36:39] j8 : almost, over the course of the week
[2015-11-04 19:36:54] Yumi : one position keeps increasing profits and other one losses
[2015-11-04 19:37:11] j8 : wasn't planning for such a drastic move
[2015-11-04 19:37:34] j8 : now it seems like it was a really risky play.
[2015-11-04 19:37:39] Murch : can you lower the position sizes at all?
[2015-11-04 19:38:03] j8 : i'm out of the position now, but have massive withheld profit on `XBTZ15`
[2015-11-04 19:38:07] Murch : You're short XBTZ correct?
[2015-11-04 19:38:18] j8 : was long `XBTZ15` from 300
[2015-11-04 19:38:24] Murch : ohhh
[2015-11-04 19:38:41] j8 : shorted the daily every day
[2015-11-04 19:38:43] Murch : Well there is a premium but you could wait for it to get higher
[2015-11-04 19:39:27] Yumi : he could go 100x long all balance if he knew future
[2015-11-04 19:39:43] Murch : Yumi: good to know lol
[2015-11-04 19:39:55] Murch : I still wouldn't do it even if I knew :P
[2015-11-04 19:39:58] Murch : I'd use a bit less hahaha
[2015-11-04 19:40:13] macios15 : im actually buying car tomorow, thanks to you guys
[2015-11-04 19:40:31] Murch : macios15: congrats!
[2015-11-04 19:40:49] Murch : Did your investment appreciate?
[2015-11-04 19:41:34] macios15 : Murch: hell jea, i was dancing today with dolar glued to my forehead
[2015-11-04 19:41:46] Murch : Sounds like a good time :D
[2015-11-04 19:41:59] nickhnt : macios15: congratz man
[2015-11-04 19:42:13] zanza : graz macios
[2015-11-04 19:42:25] AudibleScience : macios15: that's awesome man!
[2015-11-04 19:42:41] sleger : what car though ?
[2015-11-04 19:44:13] Murch : Resistance is still getting in the way
[2015-11-04 19:44:21] Murch : Might have to exit the building
[2015-11-04 19:44:27] macios15 : good old classic, sierra rs cosworth 4x4 in perfect condition, gona keep it in my garage
[2015-11-04 19:45:25] macios15 : and sell with profit like btc :D
[2015-11-04 19:46:00] justinlooking : try not to blow the engine up on the first day macios!
[2015-11-04 19:46:01] Murch : You're gonna resell the car?
[2015-11-04 19:46:25] macios15 : keep it for profit for some time
[2015-11-04 19:46:36] Murch : Ah okay okay
[2015-11-04 19:54:04] AudibleScience : ah... not sure I managed that too well but I'm back out and with I think the real loss almost made back up in withheld.
[2015-11-04 19:54:35] AudibleScience : think was*
[2015-11-04 19:58:43] AudibleScience : I'm going to have a small break in this lul
[2015-11-04 19:58:45] nickhnt : someone bought at 470 he is the real playa
[2015-11-04 19:59:51] AudibleScience : nickhnt: bought what at 470?
[2015-11-04 20:00:13] nickhnt : AudibleScience: more than 20k contracts
[2015-11-04 20:02:43] Yumi : exact bottom
[2015-11-04 20:04:25] nickhnt : yeah lucky guy xD
[2015-11-04 20:04:38] Murch : Yeah I wonder if someone got liquidated all over him?
[2015-11-04 20:05:36] wurstgelee : daddy needs a dip, come on buttcoin
[2015-11-04 20:05:43] wurstgelee : :)
[2015-11-04 20:06:55] Yumi : this new fair price jumps a lot
[2015-11-04 20:07:14] Murch : Big money no whammies
[2015-11-04 20:07:32] Murch : Yeah it's getting kinda choppy
[2015-11-04 20:11:23] Murch : It's going sideways and slanted sorta down
[2015-11-04 20:11:28] Murch : I think I might get out maybe
[2015-11-04 20:11:56] nickhnt : remember that after every consolidation the price shoot up
[2015-11-04 20:12:03] Murch : That's true though
[2015-11-04 20:12:22] nickhnt : idk maybe today its gonna be different
[2015-11-04 20:12:33] nickhnt : be cautious
[2015-11-04 20:12:49] j8 : consolidation on the longer timeframe wouldn't be surprising
[2015-11-04 20:13:04] Murch : Actually it really does look like a consolidation before the next jump up.
[2015-11-04 20:13:13] zanza : this premium for daily
[2015-11-04 20:13:13] j8 : 440
[2015-11-04 20:14:32] j8 : make over 0.5 btc for every 1000 contracts you cash and carry
[2015-11-04 20:15:14] sleger : dont put bad ideas in other people s head ;)
[2015-11-04 20:18:50] zanza : i couldn't resist this premium on the 24, had to open a short
[2015-11-04 20:20:05] BitMEX_Sam : Z15 DPE is decreasing
[2015-11-04 20:20:25] habibi : zanza the more time u spent today here the more u see that this premium is no reason to short ;p
[2015-11-04 20:20:26] kogroken : XBTH16 DPE is already at 0
[2015-11-04 20:20:46] Yumi : thing is are liquidation closing or price falling
[2015-11-04 20:20:59] nickhnt : up?
[2015-11-04 20:21:13] zanza : kogroken are you sure?
[2015-11-04 20:21:29] kogroken : on H16 a significant number of contracts were sold into a large (presumably liquidation) wall, so looks like both happened.
[2015-11-04 20:22:32] kogroken : zanza: I'm not sure, but it did at least look like that
[2015-11-04 20:22:32] jung1 : what if this gouy pump Bitoin like that china one pump ltc couple months ago? http://uk.businessinsider.com/this-convicted-ponzi-schemer-may-be-responsible-for-bitcoins-massive-price-spike-2015-11?r=US&IR=T
[2015-11-04 20:23:16] zanza : good for bitcoin, jung1
[2015-11-04 20:24:21] jung1 : yeah but this ltc guy also tripled pricy by cloud minning ponzi
[2015-11-04 20:27:48] zanza : any price action makes "trading" interesting
[2015-11-04 20:27:59] zanza : if this price runup is really from a ponzi, what comes up, must come down right?
[2015-11-04 20:29:25] BitMEX_Sam : seems to be the pattern in bitcoin
[2015-11-04 20:37:49] habibi : its api lagging or one bot cancel all orders when orderbook shows lack of orders sometimes
[2015-11-04 20:41:40] BitMEX_Sam : it's one bot doing a mass cancel
[2015-11-04 20:46:32] jung1 : nice buy walls on okcoin
[2015-11-04 20:47:24] habibi : cny market?
[2015-11-04 20:47:35] jung1 : yep
[2015-11-04 20:52:10] zanza : does anyone find it odd, the hash rate is the same as it was in September?
[2015-11-04 20:52:22] zanza : even with the doubling of price? what can we conclude from this?
[2015-11-04 20:54:09] jung1 : speculation on exchanges only
[2015-11-04 20:54:32] j8 : takes time to come online i guess
[2015-11-04 20:54:35] lazerdye : Not enough time for miners to spin up more hardware.
[2015-11-04 20:55:05] lazerdye : Also they have to be convinced this will last, and it won't crash after they buy the hardware.
[2015-11-04 20:55:15] habibi : hashrate calculates on diff, lets see how it will change in 6 days
[2015-11-04 20:55:20] j8 : yes, buying miners is long term speculation
[2015-11-04 20:56:14] jung1 : I think that curren bitcoin price would be sille after halvin
[2015-11-04 20:56:25] lazerdye : sille?
[2015-11-04 20:56:25] jung1 : It will skyrocket
[2015-11-04 20:56:31] jung1 : silly
[2015-11-04 20:56:34] jung1 : funny
[2015-11-04 20:56:46] lazerdye : Hmm.. I'm not sure, I think it will be sillier before the halving.
[2015-11-04 20:56:59] lazerdye : After.. not sure, might dump.
[2015-11-04 20:57:29] jung1 : but ecoisystem still grow. After that will be like 6.25btc every 10 minutes
[2015-11-04 20:57:41] jung1 : could be not enough
[2015-11-04 20:57:44] jung1 : I hope so
[2015-11-04 20:58:52] lazerdye : Bitcoin has a way of surprising us, the halving's a pretty expected thing.
[2015-11-04 21:00:41] lazerdye : Okay China, enough with this sideways thing...
[2015-11-04 21:00:45] zanza : so miners have been "maxxed out" for a few months now
[2015-11-04 21:00:58] zanza : its not like they have machines unplugged on the sidelines
[2015-11-04 21:01:17] zanza : so bitcoin was profitable to mine at 230
[2015-11-04 21:01:29] jung1 : http://i2.wp.com/lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hpmmNTuE-zw/U3kyVguRhjI/AAAAAAAADUk/FC6unoQ0c24/w800-h800/BvtHDcj.gif
[2015-11-04 21:01:52] zanza : something wrong with that gif jung1 :)
[2015-11-04 21:02:00] zanza : hes not vomiting
[2015-11-04 21:02:38] jung1 : http://i1.wp.com/i.imgur.com/osEroUI.gif
[2015-11-04 21:04:37] Murch : It's like Dr. Doom's fear fall
[2015-11-04 21:04:44] jung1 : told you
[2015-11-04 21:04:50] Murch : pulls you up in the air then drops you and bounces you up and down a couple times
[2015-11-04 21:05:19] habibi : well that escalated quicly
[2015-11-04 21:06:20] jung1 : damn I have to put this gif more often here
[2015-11-04 21:07:32] Murch : 17 down ain't fun, bounce please.
[2015-11-04 21:08:34] AudibleScience : Murch: are you long man?
[2015-11-04 21:08:39] Murch : AudibleScience: yeah
[2015-11-04 21:08:42] Murch : 11 down now
[2015-11-04 21:08:43] justinlooking : $40 premium spot very intriguing, it moved to 50 as i type this
[2015-11-04 21:08:50] Murch : Need this to bounce moar
[2015-11-04 21:09:24] AudibleScience : is that 11 coins down today?
[2015-11-04 21:10:46] Murch : No no no, dollars on this position
[2015-11-04 21:10:57] Murch : jesus 11 bitcoin down would be a lot
[2015-11-04 21:11:34] jung1 : ok once again https://i.imgur.com/osEroUI.gif
[2015-11-04 21:11:54] AudibleScience : oh good man!
[2015-11-04 21:12:02] Murch : Please god no
[2015-11-04 21:12:08] zanza : lol
[2015-11-04 21:12:15] AudibleScience : I think we're recovering a bit
[2015-11-04 21:12:50] Murch : Panic sold a third of my position
[2015-11-04 21:12:54] Murch : So I guess I'll be fine now
[2015-11-04 21:13:42] AudibleScience : what is with okcoin's orderbook today?!
[2015-11-04 21:13:54] wurstgelee : Murch: same
[2015-11-04 21:14:00] wurstgelee : fears of having bought too much :D
[2015-11-04 21:14:17] Murch : wurstgelee: Now we can load up lower I guess?
[2015-11-04 21:14:55] wurstgelee : maybe
[2015-11-04 21:14:57] wurstgelee : :D
[2015-11-04 21:15:06] zanza : back up the truck boys
[2015-11-04 21:15:08] zanza : cheap coinz
[2015-11-04 21:15:45] wurstgelee : sold almost all now tbh
[2015-11-04 21:15:57] wurstgelee : this looks untrustworthy to me
[2015-11-04 21:16:20] wurstgelee : k, out
[2015-11-04 21:16:23] stf28 : we are building a support :)
[2015-11-04 21:16:41] Murch : I sold off some more :(
[2015-11-04 21:17:00] Murch : It was necessary though
[2015-11-04 21:17:36] wurstgelee : Murch: im out
[2015-11-04 21:17:45] stf28 : support is building between 425 and 450
[2015-11-04 21:17:56] wurstgelee : everything pointing down short term
[2015-11-04 21:17:58] Murch : wurstgelee: Damn I'm going to try to rebuild a position
[2015-11-04 21:18:04] wurstgelee : nowhere i want to be stuck in @ 100x
[2015-11-04 21:18:05] wurstgelee : :)
[2015-11-04 21:18:14] Murch : I can respect that
[2015-11-04 21:18:18] wurstgelee : made .5 on the small rebound tho
[2015-11-04 21:18:23] wurstgelee : so i am fine
[2015-11-04 21:18:23] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-04 21:18:25] Murch : That's awesome
[2015-11-04 21:18:29] wurstgelee : 10k
[2015-11-04 21:18:40] wurstgelee : 499 -> 506 some
[2015-11-04 21:18:40] Murch : 200 bucks just like dat
[2015-11-04 21:18:44] wurstgelee : exactly
[2015-11-04 21:18:45] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-04 21:19:00] stf28 : the hardest part is to keep it :p
[2015-11-04 21:19:13] Murch : stf28: +1
[2015-11-04 21:19:19] wurstgelee : im doing really good last 3 days, i have to fuck up soon
[2015-11-04 21:19:22] jung1 : +11111
[2015-11-04 21:19:53] Murch : wurstgelee: Today is the day that I've been fucking up
[2015-11-04 21:20:05] lazerdye : I'm doing good too, but I keep feeling like I've done this before, right before getting rekt...
[2015-11-04 21:20:05] zanza : china finally dumping
[2015-11-04 21:20:05] stf28 : this week i went from 0,5 to 4.4 to 0.1 to 2 to 0.5 to 0.1 to 2 and now i have 4.2 that i swear i won't put here into this volatility
[2015-11-04 21:20:08] jung1 : best option is to play by 15-20% of all capital and go all in when everything is clear
[2015-11-04 21:20:28] wurstgelee : Murch: good i went out ;)
[2015-11-04 21:20:29] Murch : stf28: damn that's mfing rollercoaster right there
[2015-11-04 21:21:21] Murch : wurstgelee: Yeah I probably shouldn't be pushing my luck but
[2015-11-04 21:21:21] stf28 : yes ! i underestimated the importance of not going ALL IN everytime ^^
[2015-11-04 21:21:31] Murch : wurstgelee: I'm buying back in lots of 100 contracts
[2015-11-04 21:21:47] Murch : stf28: true dat. You have to learn that quickly
[2015-11-04 21:22:02] wurstgelee : Murch: back in :D
[2015-11-04 21:22:08] Murch : wurstgelee: gj
[2015-11-04 21:22:17] SnackyCoins : 20% of your account max imo
[2015-11-04 21:22:32] Murch : great timing to get back in haha
[2015-11-04 21:23:16] wurstgelee : too much agaon tho sold 1/3rd
[2015-11-04 21:23:20] wurstgelee : again
[2015-11-04 21:24:11] ayy lmao : be nice if i could see a graph of my account balance over ti
[2015-11-04 21:24:16] ayy lmao : time*
[2015-11-04 21:24:25] wurstgelee : yes, i would love that too
[2015-11-04 21:24:33] wurstgelee : also some thats like turnover etc
[2015-11-04 21:24:37] wurstgelee : *stats not thats
[2015-11-04 21:24:44] stf28 : ayy lmao: nice idea !!
[2015-11-04 21:24:49] ayy lmao : yah
[2015-11-04 21:25:04] stf28 : bounce was weak
[2015-11-04 21:25:15] Murch : ayy lmao: +1
[2015-11-04 21:25:16] wurstgelee : yep
[2015-11-04 21:25:44] wurstgelee : watching what china does
[2015-11-04 21:26:17] wurstgelee : nope, out
[2015-11-04 21:26:18] wurstgelee : i dont like
[2015-11-04 21:26:46] wurstgelee : this is still downwards imo
[2015-11-04 21:27:21] dynamike23 : dump dump dump
[2015-11-04 21:27:37] stf28 : wurstgelee: do you think of a retest of the 3000 cny level ?
[2015-11-04 21:27:51] Murch : Mmm this looks a little sketchy
[2015-11-04 21:28:15] wurstgelee : stf28: no clue. i dont do ta. i look at charts, ema and macd
[2015-11-04 21:28:20] wurstgelee : then decide what to do
[2015-11-04 21:28:25] wurstgelee : no rulesets besides my gutt
[2015-11-04 21:28:26] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-04 21:28:30] wurstgelee : *gut
[2015-11-04 21:28:51] j8 : wait to see what china does in the next couple hours. its only 5:30 am there
[2015-11-04 21:28:52] wurstgelee : sometimes listen to my left ball.
[2015-11-04 21:28:59] wurstgelee : j8: +1
[2015-11-04 21:29:00] stf28 : wurstgelee: it's a good rule, i use mine as a contra indicator ^^
[2015-11-04 21:29:06] wurstgelee : hehe =)
[2015-11-04 21:29:35] dynamike23 : occasion leading the charge down again?
[2015-11-04 21:29:36] Murch : I don't think we'll retest 3000
[2015-11-04 21:29:43] dynamike23 : okcasino
[2015-11-04 21:29:45] Murch : maybe 3100 though
[2015-11-04 21:29:48] wurstgelee : we do need a strong move up tho
[2015-11-04 21:29:52] wurstgelee : this night
[2015-11-04 21:30:08] wurstgelee : (=next 21 h)
[2015-11-04 21:30:10] wurstgelee : erm 12
[2015-11-04 21:30:13] j8 : tomorrow is what counts.
[2015-11-04 21:30:20] AudibleScience : Murch: what did you get your long in at?
[2015-11-04 21:30:36] Murch : AudibleScience: I've worked my entry to 497.7
[2015-11-04 21:30:42] Murch : So it's not the best right now
[2015-11-04 21:30:47] zanza : tomorrow is auction
[2015-11-04 21:30:59] AudibleScience : savage man...
[2015-11-04 21:31:10] Murch : I think I'll make it
[2015-11-04 21:31:46] AudibleScience : I got in a bit earlier than you did but still not too proud of it if you know what I mean! lol
[2015-11-04 21:31:56] Murch : hahah
[2015-11-04 21:32:18] AudibleScience : I'm at 492.92
[2015-11-04 21:32:24] wurstgelee : why do you guys hold losing positions? just curius.... i use isolated+fixed marget - if its gone, its gone
[2015-11-04 21:32:31] wurstgelee : works better for me
[2015-11-04 21:32:40] wurstgelee : *curious
[2015-11-04 21:32:43] Murch : I think that there's a lot of demand so even if the price drops people will be coming in to buy. So as long as I can make an alright exit I'll be good.
[2015-11-04 21:33:13] SnackyCoins : wurstgelee: so lets say i was long Z15 from 230 and i never wanted to give that up ever, but i also thought this was a top for now
[2015-11-04 21:33:14] Murch : Because with fixed margin your maintenance is half of the position size.
[2015-11-04 21:33:20] AudibleScience : how do you do that thing with a symbol?
[2015-11-04 21:33:34] SnackyCoins : i could use cross margin and go short weeklys
[2015-11-04 21:33:47] wurstgelee : Murch: yes, but its still cheaper if it moves down ~10$+
[2015-11-04 21:33:48] jung1 : 'if you love it, let it go"
[2015-11-04 21:33:52] SnackyCoins : that will lock in profits on Z15 until expiry on 7D
[2015-11-04 21:33:53] wurstgelee : jung1: yes _:D
[2015-11-04 21:34:17] Murch : wurstgelee: True it's just that I never managed to keep positions open that way. It's riskier on cross but it's more manageable for me.
[2015-11-04 21:34:52] Murch : And it doesn't let you build positions.
[2015-11-04 21:34:59] Murch : Well you can but not as easily
[2015-11-04 21:35:00] wurstgelee : well, whatever works for you ;)
[2015-11-04 21:35:14] wurstgelee : got in again btw
[2015-11-04 21:35:14] Murch : Yep different strokes for different folks
[2015-11-04 21:35:39] wurstgelee : yes ;)
[2015-11-04 21:36:29] AudibleScience : wurstgelee: are you short?
[2015-11-04 21:36:46] wurstgelee : no
[2015-11-04 21:37:13] wurstgelee : i shorted 3 or 4 times the last days, fucked up every time
[2015-11-04 21:37:18] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-04 21:37:41] wurstgelee : well..tihe time to go long wasnt ggood either now
[2015-11-04 21:38:20] jung1 : same
[2015-11-04 21:38:23] wurstgelee : ;)
[2015-11-04 21:38:49] wurstgelee : yep...
[2015-11-04 21:39:00] Murch : yeah it really wasn't :/
[2015-11-04 21:39:08] wurstgelee : yes, already gone
[2015-11-04 21:39:11] wurstgelee : :)
[2015-11-04 21:39:52] wurstgelee : that mark price is ridiculous currently btw
[2015-11-04 21:40:10] wurstgelee : finex+$40 doesnt seem right
[2015-11-04 21:40:28] wurstgelee : Murch: u still keeping your long?
[2015-11-04 21:40:40] Murch : MM yeah still in it
[2015-11-04 21:40:45] wurstgelee : ouch
[2015-11-04 21:40:55] Murch : I've closed a little bit but I'm really negative right now
[2015-11-04 21:41:02] wurstgelee : -500%?
[2015-11-04 21:41:23] Murch : -81 lol
[2015-11-04 21:41:46] wurstgelee : hehe
[2015-11-04 21:41:57] wurstgelee : ah cross...
[2015-11-04 21:42:06] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/nIIerlP.jpg
[2015-11-04 21:42:14] jung1 : 3000 today?
[2015-11-04 21:42:20] wurstgelee : lol, maybe
[2015-11-04 21:42:30] wurstgelee : i dont go long again until i see clear signs now
[2015-11-04 21:42:48] wurstgelee : tried 3 times when i wasnt really sure, jumped out 2 times, got margin called once
[2015-11-04 21:43:12] wurstgelee : well, 2 knife catches made some profit, so overall .4 down in the last 3 hours
[2015-11-04 21:43:14] wurstgelee : sitting out now
[2015-11-04 21:43:41] jung1 : Im short since 79
[2015-11-04 21:43:45] jung1 : lets wait for 3000
[2015-11-04 21:43:54] wurstgelee : hehe
[2015-11-04 21:44:36] jung1 : two times I post it here and two time price fall over $20 https://i.imgur.com/osEroUI.gif
[2015-11-04 21:45:09] wurstgelee : less than 1k btc to 448 @finex
[2015-11-04 21:45:18] Murch : -30 dollars from entry I really fucked up lol
[2015-11-04 21:45:41] wurstgelee : :/
[2015-11-04 21:45:55] BitMEX_Sam : no calling this market
[2015-11-04 21:46:07] SnackyCoins : the only calling being done is margin
[2015-11-04 21:46:09] Yumi : MM bot was buying all the way down with 8% premium :/
[2015-11-04 21:46:11] jung1 : haha
[2015-11-04 21:46:12] jung1 : damn
[2015-11-04 21:46:19] jung1 : I have to use this pic more often
[2015-11-04 21:46:21] wurstgelee : 3100....
[2015-11-04 21:46:59] SnackyCoins : guess i sold the top ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-11-04 21:47:11] wurstgelee : >50$ bewteen finex and china now
[2015-11-04 21:47:49] abc123 : what chart or info source do you guys use to watch WTF China is doing ?
[2015-11-04 21:47:54] wurstgelee : 3000
[2015-11-04 21:48:07] wurstgelee : abc123: i use bitcoinwisdom
[2015-11-04 21:48:08] jung1 : abc123: https://www.ok coin.com/future/market.do?symbol=0
[2015-11-04 21:48:11] SnackyCoins : https://old.whaleclub.co/charts/240/okcoin,huobi,bitfinex,btce
[2015-11-04 21:48:29] jung1 : put space in ok coin
[2015-11-04 21:48:33] wurstgelee : 3000 should hold now
[2015-11-04 21:48:35] wurstgelee : please
[2015-11-04 21:48:38] wurstgelee : =)
[2015-11-04 21:48:40] abc123 : thx
[2015-11-04 21:48:50] wurstgelee : nope
[2015-11-04 21:49:00] Murch : gg
[2015-11-04 21:49:05] macios15 : 2950 supp
[2015-11-04 21:49:16] macios15 : not 3k its not over guys 3300 by tomorow
[2015-11-04 21:49:23] wurstgelee : punching right through
[2015-11-04 21:49:40] wurstgelee : supp gone
[2015-11-04 21:49:53] wurstgelee : omfg
[2015-11-04 21:50:04] SnackyCoins : welcome to bitcoin
[2015-11-04 21:50:07] SnackyCoins : it is always like this
[2015-11-04 21:50:12] kasman5 : big sells
[2015-11-04 21:50:12] BitMEX_Sam : good lord
[2015-11-04 21:50:14] jung1 : another 500% profit
[2015-11-04 21:50:22] wurstgelee : jung1: fu :D
[2015-11-04 21:50:22] SnackyCoins : yeah i am up 830%
[2015-11-04 21:52:31] wurstgelee : lets see where this rebounds goes
[2015-11-04 21:52:50] wurstgelee : fuck
[2015-11-04 21:52:52] wurstgelee : 3160
[2015-11-04 21:52:55] wurstgelee : did it just teleport?
[2015-11-04 21:52:59] wurstgelee : lol
[2015-11-04 21:53:23] jung1 : I dont touch longs now
[2015-11-04 21:53:28] SnackyCoins : books are empty
[2015-11-04 21:53:33] SnackyCoins : okcn longs > shorts
[2015-11-04 21:53:48] wurstgelee : finex is 60$ below china wtf
[2015-11-04 21:54:00] wurstgelee : up we go
[2015-11-04 21:54:37] j8 : finex matching engine is 36 secs behind apparently
[2015-11-04 21:55:17] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah heard that too, apparently 90s on the API
[2015-11-04 21:55:52] stf28 : ah the good old times
[2015-11-04 21:55:56] wurstgelee : wtf is happening oO
[2015-11-04 21:56:05] wurstgelee : nothing =)
[2015-11-04 21:56:22] jung1 : https://i.imgur.com/osEroUI.gif another?
[2015-11-04 21:56:26] lockhedge : and TradeBlock says, Bitfinex is "operating normally" https://tradeblock.com/markets/
[2015-11-04 21:57:06] gustavo7 : 3000 has fallen
[2015-11-04 21:57:09] gustavo7 : to the core
[2015-11-04 21:57:58] Yumi : premium on okc futures is 1% here its still 6-7%, its crazy
[2015-11-04 21:58:00] j8 : yeah i guess they'd need to be placing trades to measure that
[2015-11-04 21:58:24] kilrari : Sorry to the guy catching knives
[2015-11-04 21:58:58] BitMEX_Sam : yeah but you can still see execution timestamp delays
[2015-11-04 21:59:07] BitMEX_Sam : the 36s is if you're listening to the websocket, executions are coming out of it 36s late
[2015-11-04 21:59:22] j8 : oh i see