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[2017-01-06 15:57:39] SilverKnight : more contracts were traded on the drop than the rise, in a shorter period of time..... which is always the case with selloffs
[2017-01-06 15:58:38] Yazz : One thing is for sure, whatever happens, Arthur and Bitmex is making bank.
[2017-01-06 15:58:51] Yazz : are...
[2017-01-06 15:59:00] SilverKnight : yes... totally...
[2017-01-06 16:00:59] rowrow : like $50k/day or so minus costs sound about right?
[2017-01-06 16:01:20] rowrow : (though this is their highest volume day probably)
[2017-01-06 16:01:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1001 @ 913.40
[2017-01-06 16:01:48] rowrow : 100m volume * .05% per trade
[2017-01-06 16:02:03] abbey : one hour SAR popped @ stamp for the first time on the way down, over 24h, popped with growing volume, bullish.
[2017-01-06 16:02:29] abbey : 5555 seems like the bottom for china
[2017-01-06 16:02:37] Dynamix : how high are we going ? :D
[2017-01-06 16:02:43] rowrow : 925
[2017-01-06 16:02:57] elmorte : fck, I'm get vertigo
[2017-01-06 16:03:00] Dynamix : haha maybe
[2017-01-06 16:03:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6300 @ 918.25
[2017-01-06 16:04:03] Dynamix : double top china ? :D
[2017-01-06 16:05:00] elmorte : Rado: and someone correct me if Im wrong, but it there was was insurance those liqds wouldn't immediately appear in the tradebook. So the fact that they do makes me think it's depleted. Even that 1 contract
[2017-01-06 16:05:27] Rado : I don't think that's true
[2017-01-06 16:05:45] elmorte : possibly a bit of logic missing there
[2017-01-06 16:05:55] Rado : liquidations should always appear right away
[2017-01-06 16:05:56] tommygunn : we are going up up up om 15minute
[2017-01-06 16:05:58] sleger : elmorte: liq go to the book first
[2017-01-06 16:05:58] j8 : they appear but they don't get pushed into the orderbook. they sit there for a while then ADL
[2017-01-06 16:06:04] sleger : thats what maintenance margin is for
[2017-01-06 16:06:08] tommygunn : scalping all they way
[2017-01-06 16:06:28] abbey : Dynamix: that was double bottom
[2017-01-06 16:07:06] Dynamix : abbey: maybe ..
[2017-01-06 16:07:08] abbey : rapid dbl bottom
[2017-01-06 16:07:11] Dynamix : still good time to long ? :D
[2017-01-06 16:07:12] Rado : abbey: I was going to say that as well
[2017-01-06 16:07:40] abbey : excellent time to long
[2017-01-06 16:07:58] abbey : imo
[2017-01-06 16:08:32] MikeHunt : once this hits mean
[2017-01-06 16:08:37] MikeHunt : bull run can resume
[2017-01-06 16:09:08] Rado : MikeHunt: once what hits?
[2017-01-06 16:09:59] MikeHunt : Rado: btc -> 800's
[2017-01-06 16:10:34] abbey : waiting for huobi to break 6500
[2017-01-06 16:11:00] Dynamix : abbey: troll
[2017-01-06 16:11:02] rapidtrades : this f*cking vol man...i keep withdrawing and redepositing
[2017-01-06 16:11:14] Dynamix : abbey: strill needs to break 6300 ;)
[2017-01-06 16:11:28] rapidtrades : it should calm down in day or two
[2017-01-06 16:11:38] rapidtrades : then prolly slowly drift lower
[2017-01-06 16:11:54] Rado : rapidtrades: why do you withdraw and re deposit?
[2017-01-06 16:12:09] rapidtrades : to keep exchange risk down?
[2017-01-06 16:12:20] rapidtrades : not gonna get finexed again
[2017-01-06 16:12:49] rapidtrades : plus i only keep min here with a buffer after the ZEC fiasco
[2017-01-06 16:13:04] Rado : got it
[2017-01-06 16:13:07] elmorte : :thumbsu[:
[2017-01-06 16:13:10] Rado : where do you keep your BTC?
[2017-01-06 16:13:12] elmorte : :thumbsup:
[2017-01-06 16:13:24] elmorte : don't tell him rapid!
[2017-01-06 16:13:33] Rado : I bought Trezor, but only have 1 BTC there since I am still testing it
[2017-01-06 16:13:56] Rado : elmorte: shut up :-)
[2017-01-06 16:14:00] rapidtrades : yeah trezor seems ok
[2017-01-06 16:14:06] rapidtrades : brb later
[2017-01-06 16:14:12] abbey : Dynamix: huobi 6419
[2017-01-06 16:14:19] sleger : i got the nano ledger s instead
[2017-01-06 16:14:35] Rado : sleger: how is it?
[2017-01-06 16:14:41] sleger : good
[2017-01-06 16:14:48] sleger : it does multiple crypto
[2017-01-06 16:14:57] Rado : Trezor is coming out with a new device
[2017-01-06 16:15:01] Dynamix : abbey: okcoin is better :P
[2017-01-06 16:15:08] Rado : A lot bigger screen and much better display
[2017-01-06 16:15:11] Dynamix : kcoin
[2017-01-06 16:15:13] Apocalyptic : trezor is shitty, it had an obvious side-channel flaw in the first version
[2017-01-06 16:15:35] Dynamix : anyone here invested in antshares? :D
[2017-01-06 16:15:38] abbey : Dynamix: they are going almost hand in hand
[2017-01-06 16:17:29] abbey : Dynamix: bitcoinwisdom is lagging behind with huobi
[2017-01-06 16:17:32] CaptainDean : Apocalyptic: side-chanel flaw ?
[2017-01-06 16:17:49] Dynamix : haha yeah @abbey
[2017-01-06 16:18:00] cryptwrecked : hello there!
[2017-01-06 16:18:07] Dynamix : Chineze are breaking the market
[2017-01-06 16:18:20] Apocalyptic : CaptainDean: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/trezor-power-analysis/
[2017-01-06 16:18:30] Dynamix : the volume is still huge
[2017-01-06 16:19:05] elmorte : bitcoinwisdom.com still fckin up @MikeHunt ?
[2017-01-06 16:19:26] CaptainDean : Apocalyptic: looks like it's been fixed in a firmware update
[2017-01-06 16:19:34] Apocalyptic : CaptainDean: it's not the thing per see that is worrisome, but the technical ability of the team
[2017-01-06 16:19:44] Apocalyptic : if they let a product shipped with this
[2017-01-06 16:19:58] Rado : Apocalyptic: which one is the best?
[2017-01-06 16:20:21] Apocalyptic : Rado: I have no idea, haven't found any that would be suitable yet
[2017-01-06 16:20:39] Rado : Apocalyptic: hardware wallets are much better than software wallets
[2017-01-06 16:20:44] Apocalyptic : CaptainDean: according to some cryptographers it was a rookie mistake
[2017-01-06 16:20:46] CaptainDean : Apocalyptic: Good Point, I own one of them and i wasn't aware of this
[2017-01-06 16:20:47] Rado : so you better find one before you get hacked
[2017-01-06 16:20:49] Rado : :-)
[2017-01-06 16:20:52] CaptainDean : Apocalyptic: thanks for the info
[2017-01-06 16:20:56] Apocalyptic : Rado: I know
[2017-01-06 16:21:12] Apocalyptic : but better have competent people build the hardware is all I'm saying
[2017-01-06 16:21:25] Apocalyptic : until then i will stick with cold storage
[2017-01-06 16:23:28] cryptwrecked : trying to learn the ropes here, can i make demo trades on bitcoin dust?
[2017-01-06 16:23:44] CaptainDean : use the test website
[2017-01-06 16:23:52] CaptainDean : someone will give you the exact link
[2017-01-06 16:23:55] CaptainDean : i don't remember
[2017-01-06 16:24:04] cryptwrecked : that would be really helpful
[2017-01-06 16:24:09] elmorte : it's testnet.bimex.com
[2017-01-06 16:24:10] elmorte : but....
[2017-01-06 16:24:18] CaptainDean : https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTUSD
[2017-01-06 16:24:55] cryptwrecked : thanks guys, lost all my bitcoins because i lost the paper wallet when my house burned down
[2017-01-06 16:25:03] elmorte : it's alright for working out the mechanics of the site...but you won't glean much about the market
[2017-01-06 16:25:13] imapotato : @bitmex - You mentioned adding a prediction contract for ETF approval. I think it would be waaaay more interesting to do prediction contracts for fork activation (SegWit, BU, Classic, etc.)
[2017-01-06 16:26:17] username_ : anyone big on monero here?
[2017-01-06 16:26:20] cryptwrecked : thanks elmore, i'm more clued up on the market than i am the mechanics of this site, so that's helpful. How long should i expect to be on the demo site for before i am confident with the mechanics here, roughly speaking?
[2017-01-06 16:26:36] elmorte : cryptwrecked: a smart angry person told me when I first got here to just play with 1 contract first to test it out...that would be more useful than testnet trades
[2017-01-06 16:27:08] elmorte : cryptwrecked: you should be alright in half an hour :)
[2017-01-06 16:27:36] elmorte : not sure how fast you can get testnet BTC however
[2017-01-06 16:27:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20000 @ 913.90
[2017-01-06 16:27:42] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-01-06 16:28:02] cryptwrecked : elmore: what type of contract would you recommend i start with?
[2017-01-06 16:29:26] elmorte : cryptwrecked: perpetual swap. If we had daily USD futures, I would recommend that, but since we don't swap would have to do
[2017-01-06 16:29:42] elmorte : Just...realize there are funding fees on the swap, and not on the futures
[2017-01-06 16:30:23] rullwull : there is yen daily futures
[2017-01-06 16:30:41] elmorte : with the liquidity of a rock
[2017-01-06 16:33:00] cryptwrecked : I'm on the testate now, but have no balance. what am i supposed to play with capital-wise?
[2017-01-06 16:33:31] elmorte : Google testnet BTC faucet
[2017-01-06 16:34:15] elmorte : There used to be instructions on the site itself, with links...I'm sure they're prob still there
[2017-01-06 16:34:59] BitMEX_Wally : cryptwrecked: The testnet deposit page links to some faucets: https://testnet.bitmex.com/app/deposit
[2017-01-06 16:36:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1024 @ 910.04
[2017-01-06 16:39:06] cryptwrecked : Thanks, I have testate coins on the way. Is there a thorough guide to trading on Bitmex?
[2017-01-06 16:39:28] imapotato : BitMEX_Wally: Someone (maybe Arthur?) mentioned adding a prediction contract for ETF approval. I think it would be waaaay more interesting to do prediction contracts for fork activation (SegWit, BU, Classic, etc.)
[2017-01-06 16:42:02] elmorte : cryptwrecked: no, but everything is pretty much labeled (hover over it) and documented
[2017-01-06 16:42:19] elmorte : You can click on contracts and references to go deeper
[2017-01-06 16:44:15] cryptwrecked : thanks elmorte
[2017-01-06 16:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 20000 @ 932.56
[2017-01-06 16:44:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 20500 @ 6507.5
[2017-01-06 16:44:58] elmorte : np, break a leg
[2017-01-06 16:45:42] cryptwrecked : i hope so, what's a realistic minimum deposit to make a worthwhile perpetual swap trade?
[2017-01-06 16:45:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 300 @ 904.93
[2017-01-06 16:46:20] elmorte : that's a very subjective question...
[2017-01-06 16:46:26] cryptwrecked : yeah, i know
[2017-01-06 16:46:59] cryptwrecked : ok, bearing in mind i lost all my bitcoins, 17, in a fire
[2017-01-06 16:47:16] sleger : if you have nothing left i guess 0 would do
[2017-01-06 16:47:17] elmorte : oh right...IRL REKT
[2017-01-06 16:47:22] sleger : and you can play on testnet
[2017-01-06 16:48:25] cryptwrecked : sleger, after testnet? I mean, is it/can it be worthwhile playing around with a few hundred dollars worth to start with?
[2017-01-06 16:48:45] Yazz : cryptwrecked: amount doesnt matter here. whatever you can afford to lose.
[2017-01-06 16:49:01] cryptwrecked : am reluctant to play with anything more than dust, especially since all my lost bitcoins are now ash
[2017-01-06 16:49:03] elmorte : for sure...my first deposit was 1BTC...which was around $250
[2017-01-06 16:49:14] cryptwrecked : nice
[2017-01-06 16:49:34] sleger : cryptwrecked: with 100$ you can bet 10k so yes
[2017-01-06 16:50:38] cryptwrecked : if i may ask elmore, did you have any knowledge of the types of trading you can do on bitmex, before you joined and deposited, and has the experience been more success than not, for you with your trading here?
[2017-01-06 16:51:14] elmorte : It was new to me...I traded spot before, so leverage was kinda nice
[2017-01-06 16:51:34] cryptwrecked : sleger: with a very tight margin for error on that trade i'm guessing. would need to be totally sure on the direction
[2017-01-06 16:51:48] elmorte : As for the success part, it's kinda like a sine curve
[2017-01-06 16:52:26] elmorte : If you asked me on Dec 1st, I would've been net negative...Dec 31st, net positive...today...
[2017-01-06 16:52:43] elmorte : well, a lot happened in the last 30 hrs
[2017-01-06 16:52:45] cryptwrecked : I used to leverage on bitfinex, had a few crazy nights back in 2013/14
[2017-01-06 16:53:27] cryptwrecked : thanks for your transparency elmorte, this was my experience before. It's no different to any other stock trading/gambling really
[2017-01-06 16:53:44] Dynamix : where is the way of this now ?
[2017-01-06 16:54:03] cryptwrecked : sideways and then down a bit imo
[2017-01-06 16:54:16] cryptwrecked : but i'm not a trader, so don't listen to me
[2017-01-06 16:54:31] cryptwrecked : i'm still asking for advice lol
[2017-01-06 16:54:32] elmorte : cryptwrecked: np, hope you genuinely got something from it
[2017-01-06 16:54:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 143 @ 6501.5
[2017-01-06 16:55:07] cryptwrecked : is this REKT user just updating us with the most recent positions that have been closed ?
[2017-01-06 16:55:23] cryptwrecked : I did elmorte, thanks
[2017-01-06 16:55:27] shiroe : not looking good..
[2017-01-06 16:55:34] elmorte : it's a bot written by one of the users
[2017-01-06 16:55:43] cryptwrecked : ah, ok, cool
[2017-01-06 16:55:43] shiroe : free fall!
[2017-01-06 16:55:51] MikeHunt : seems PRC crashed bitcoin so they can regulate it under the guise of "risk prevention"
[2017-01-06 16:55:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12 @ 900.18
[2017-01-06 16:55:52] shiroe : abort abort
[2017-01-06 16:56:20] Yazz : MikeHunt: exactly
[2017-01-06 16:56:23] elmorte : cryptwrecked: once you get the hang of it, have a read of the Bitmex blog...Arthur's crypto digest posts offer some nice strategies and insight
[2017-01-06 16:56:26] Dynamix : shorting time ?
[2017-01-06 16:56:31] SilverKnight : mmmm
[2017-01-06 16:56:39] SilverKnight : looks pretty damn close
[2017-01-06 16:57:40] SilverKnight : I wouldnt short until we get below 900 tho
[2017-01-06 16:58:04] Dynamix : we went below haha
[2017-01-06 16:58:21] SilverKnight : yea but 900 is a support zone...
[2017-01-06 16:58:29] shiroe : support getting broken..
[2017-01-06 16:58:37] SilverKnight : I would need more confirmation, but thats just me
[2017-01-06 16:58:46] Dynamix : yeah , that is true :)
[2017-01-06 16:59:25] mariomarco : whos buying lol
[2017-01-06 16:59:32] mariomarco : 800 target
[2017-01-06 16:59:34] SilverKnight : well somebody is
[2017-01-06 16:59:35] SilverKnight : :P
[2017-01-06 16:59:47] mariomarco : we goin deeper underground
[2017-01-06 16:59:48] cryptwrecked : that's great elmorte, thank's, understanding market dynamics is the bit I enjoy, but the trading dragon and mechanics kind of melt my brain a little to be honest.
[2017-01-06 17:00:38] MikeHunt : once it settles at mean we will start climbing again slowly
[2017-01-06 17:00:44] MikeHunt : ready for the next pump n dump
[2017-01-06 17:01:07] elmorte : MikeHunt: what's mean? 860?
[2017-01-06 17:01:10] cryptwrecked : From nothing, I intend to get my head around all this, and trade my way 17 BTC's back
[2017-01-06 17:01:37] cryptwrecked : love the name MikeHunt, hehe!
[2017-01-06 17:01:45] Dynamix : MikeHunt: Pump from here ?
[2017-01-06 17:02:32] laisee : there is an API providing liquidations info as it happens
[2017-01-06 17:04:12] MikeHunt : elmorte: could be lower, after a bubble it can be hard to tell
[2017-01-06 17:04:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 402 @ 905.37
[2017-01-06 17:05:07] abbey : got my bags full, let's go!
[2017-01-06 17:05:20] Dynamix : abbey: down :P
[2017-01-06 17:05:29] Yazz : nooo up
[2017-01-06 17:06:00] Dynamix : daaamn
[2017-01-06 17:06:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3 @ 908.29 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-06 17:06:13] Dynamix : well ok
[2017-01-06 17:06:14] Dynamix : ..
[2017-01-06 17:06:52] SilverKnight : Dynamix: Im still thinking it will go down...
[2017-01-06 17:07:09] Dynamix : SilverKnight: meh
[2017-01-06 17:07:26] Dynamix : maybe ...
[2017-01-06 17:07:36] Dynamix : To 880 870 again
[2017-01-06 17:11:27] abbey : even still 855 possible, but after that - moon
[2017-01-06 17:12:04] abbey : low possibility tho
[2017-01-06 17:12:21] Dynamix : yh i guess
[2017-01-06 17:12:36] Dynamix : watch it dump
[2017-01-06 17:12:41] Dynamix : to oblivion :))
[2017-01-06 17:13:06] SilverKnight : im thinking 850 will be the downside target...
[2017-01-06 17:13:14] SilverKnight : once we get back below 900
[2017-01-06 17:13:29] Dynamix : u in a short ?
[2017-01-06 17:13:49] abbey : SilverKnight: yes, something like that i think too
[2017-01-06 17:14:15] SilverKnight : not yet
[2017-01-06 17:14:32] Dynamix : the volume is low af
[2017-01-06 17:14:35] SilverKnight : yep
[2017-01-06 17:14:45] Dynamix : these past minutes ....
[2017-01-06 17:14:47] SilverKnight : we are crawling along
[2017-01-06 17:15:03] SilverKnight : west coast USA is alive now
[2017-01-06 17:15:10] SilverKnight : so, should be interesting
[2017-01-06 17:15:24] abbey : not much selling
[2017-01-06 17:15:31] SilverKnight : not much of anything
[2017-01-06 17:15:54] abbey : silent before the storm
[2017-01-06 17:19:32] Dynamix : there it goes ..
[2017-01-06 17:23:15] imapotato : Anyone else wish there was a binary contract on Bitmex for Segwit activation, or am I alone?
[2017-01-06 17:24:15] sleger : no
[2017-01-06 17:24:25] sleger : you're alone
[2017-01-06 17:24:37] imapotato : Bummer
[2017-01-06 17:24:51] elmorte : not your bag of chips :/
[2017-01-06 17:29:31] Yazz : I wonder how many BTC the PRC gov owns...
[2017-01-06 17:30:55] shiroe : IT seems we are preparing for the 6am chinese pump :D
[2017-01-06 17:32:02] MikeHunt : Yazz: as many as they want
[2017-01-06 17:32:16] MikeHunt : Yazz: clearly enough to wall off 8888
[2017-01-06 17:32:25] MikeHunt : and any future target they choose
[2017-01-06 17:41:27] Dynamix : This is booring..
[2017-01-06 17:43:51] shiroe : so tight..
[2017-01-06 17:43:56] abbey : Dynamix: take brake, have a spliff ;)
[2017-01-06 17:45:06] cryptwrecked : where are all you guys from? I'm London
[2017-01-06 17:45:12] SilverKnight : London
[2017-01-06 17:45:15] abbey : relax, keep calm, wait for the move
[2017-01-06 17:46:02] bingbongfly : cryptwrecked: stockholm :)
[2017-01-06 17:46:04] abbey : northern europe
[2017-01-06 17:46:43] cryptwrecked : hello fellow europeans, is weed legal yet where you are?
[2017-01-06 17:47:04] abbey : not here
[2017-01-06 17:48:21] cryptwrecked : even more reason to light up a joint then abbey ;)
[2017-01-06 17:49:51] abbey : cryptwrecked: that I'll do right now ;)
[2017-01-06 17:51:17] ayy_lmao : so many emojis
[2017-01-06 17:51:54] elmorte : We need cooler paper wallets... Lighting a spliff with a burning $100 worth of bitcoin just doesn't have the same effect as lighting it with a Benjamin
[2017-01-06 17:52:38] cryptwrecked : i'll join you abbey! :)
[2017-01-06 17:53:10] abbey : these are so exciting times fellow mates, so glad to be a part of this.
[2017-01-06 17:53:19] MikeHunt : cryptwrecked: generally its decriminalized or low fine
[2017-01-06 17:53:33] cryptwrecked : elmorte, i wish someone had made a fireproof paper wallet, i'd be 17K better off
[2017-01-06 17:53:50] abbey : cryptwrecked: ok, cheers mate
[2017-01-06 17:54:10] elmorte : 15.5, but I get your point :)
[2017-01-06 17:54:11] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-01-06 17:54:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50000 @ 912.79 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-06 17:54:52] cryptwrecked : need an early morning and fresh coffee to get my head around this.....enjoying the chat though
[2017-01-06 17:54:57] elmorte : cryptwrecked: and I'm glad you can joke about it... no one got hurt?
[2017-01-06 17:56:04] cryptwrecked : nah, no-one got hurt, i just lost a lot of possessions, and all my BTC.
[2017-01-06 17:56:14] cryptwrecked : hence my name
[2017-01-06 17:56:42] cryptwrecked : BTC will turn the whole world into gamblers
[2017-01-06 17:57:17] abbey : Waiting for huobi to pop that long 1hour SAR chain.. almost there
[2017-01-06 17:57:32] elmorte : we prefer the term `investors`
[2017-01-06 17:58:08] cryptwrecked : elmorte: hehehehe!
[2017-01-06 17:58:16] elmorte : you don't gamble your grandma, you invest her
[2017-01-06 17:58:28] cryptwrecked : Yes, well, I pimp her out
[2017-01-06 17:59:52] cryptwrecked : an afternoon with my nan, for 0.05 BTC
[2017-01-06 18:00:09] cryptwrecked : she make's a great cup of tea
[2017-01-06 18:02:37] elmorte : tea...organic, no calories...gluten free
[2017-01-06 18:02:43] elmorte : it's a winner
[2017-01-06 18:03:28] elmorte : now all you gotta do is issue nantokens for your ICO
[2017-01-06 18:04:00] abbey : oh f*ck my SARs, I hadn't refreshed my chart. The one hour SAR has popped time ago.. nevermind, too much splif and no sleep enough .. talking no sense here. But now I'm sharp again, let's move on.
[2017-01-06 18:06:02] abbey : talked no sense for a while, now i'm on the map again.
[2017-01-06 18:06:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 909.21
[2017-01-06 18:06:21] elmorte : abbey: are we there yet?
[2017-01-06 18:06:22] abbey : + smiley face
[2017-01-06 18:06:50] abbey : elmorte: no no
[2017-01-06 18:07:04] Adriana : Sell Bitcoins! Buy your wife and kids bacK!
[2017-01-06 18:07:31] Yazz : seriously...
[2017-01-06 18:07:49] Yazz : just keep green.
[2017-01-06 18:08:18] ayy_lmao : f*ck indicators
[2017-01-06 18:08:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 20000 @ 930.91
[2017-01-06 18:09:10] SilverKnight : aaaannnd testing 900 again
[2017-01-06 18:09:18] Yazz : taknig the stairs up and the elevator down
[2017-01-06 18:09:22] SilverKnight : hmmm....
[2017-01-06 18:09:30] mariomarco : whos buying lol
[2017-01-06 18:10:20] elmorte : boing...
[2017-01-06 18:10:48] Yazz : support
[2017-01-06 18:11:10] Yazz : This box is so calm compared to Polo
[2017-01-06 18:11:26] elmorte : it's a reverse trampoline
[2017-01-06 18:11:40] elmorte : polo box is noise
[2017-01-06 18:12:11] Jerry : Im buyng
[2017-01-06 18:15:03] SilverKnight : bit of a war for 900....
[2017-01-06 18:16:01] abbey : Must trust to instincts now and keep calm
[2017-01-06 18:17:43] cryptwrecked : great idea elmorte, because you guys are so cool in here, i'd like to give you all fir-st refusal on the ICO nano tokens, or granno-tokens, as they are to be known as. Who wants in?
[2017-01-06 18:18:39] Yazz : GMILF tokens? There's probably a market for that.
[2017-01-06 18:18:47] abbey : funding is positive to me, that's nice
[2017-01-06 18:18:58] cryptwrecked : great contribution Jazz, thanks for the input
[2017-01-06 18:19:24] Yazz : my pleasure
[2017-01-06 18:20:37] cryptwrecked : I've got you down for 5 BTC's worth of GMILF futures contracts Yazz
[2017-01-06 18:21:16] daniel : Guys, why is the funding rate for xbtusd negative??
[2017-01-06 18:21:27] ayy_lmao : majority short?
[2017-01-06 18:21:51] elmorte : daniel: a bug in the code
[2017-01-06 18:22:24] elmorte : when BTC trades below market price, that tends to happen
[2017-01-06 18:23:06] daniel : ty
[2017-01-06 18:23:32] daniel : So it's a kind of policy to ensure that the price stays at Exchange level?
[2017-01-06 18:23:40] ayy_lmao : yes
[2017-01-06 18:24:11] ayy_lmao : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2017-01-06 18:24:23] ayy_lmao : check the funding paragraph
[2017-01-06 18:24:58] elmorte : I feel like the italics were misplaced there...
[2017-01-06 18:25:02] ayy_lmao : " This rate aims to keep the traded price of the swap contract in line with the underlying reference price"
[2017-01-06 18:25:52] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 901.81
[2017-01-06 18:26:20] elmorte : `You will only pay or receive funding if you hold a position at one of these times` Or maybe italicize both `if` and `at`
[2017-01-06 18:26:41] daniel : oh great
[2017-01-06 18:26:59] elmorte : wonderful really
[2017-01-06 18:27:05] abbey : volume dried out, bears out of ammo, time to continue to the moon soon
[2017-01-06 18:27:36] abbey : ?
[2017-01-06 18:27:54] elmorte : sounded so confident until the ?
[2017-01-06 18:28:19] BitMEX_Greg : daniel: @elmorte So essentially if you hold a position over the Funding Period time, then you pay funding. If you close your position prior to this then you do not pay funding
[2017-01-06 18:28:21] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-06 18:29:19] abbey : you're right. I double thought. It's not wise to be over confident of anything.
[2017-01-06 18:29:41] elmorte : abbey: I was just testing you. damn.
[2017-01-06 18:29:56] daniel : @greg
[2017-01-06 18:30:06] elmorte : click the username
[2017-01-06 18:30:38] BitMEX_Greg : daniel: Yes, if you want to @ me, just click on my username
[2017-01-06 18:30:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 897.51
[2017-01-06 18:30:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 898.95
[2017-01-06 18:32:04] daniel : will do. First I read your outstanding tutorial, maybe it already answers my question...
[2017-01-06 18:32:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11303 @ 895.60
[2017-01-06 18:32:28] BitMEX_Greg : daniel: Great, if you have any questions pls let me know
[2017-01-06 18:33:34] elmorte : > First I read your outstanding tutorial, maybe it already answers my question Times are changing
[2017-01-06 18:34:11] Izakun : Hi
[2017-01-06 18:34:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 887.57
[2017-01-06 18:34:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1150 @ 886.85
[2017-01-06 18:34:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 887.06 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-06 18:35:17] Izakun : A charitable soul to send me 0.0001Xbtc ?
[2017-01-06 18:35:28] sleger : Izakun: sure
[2017-01-06 18:35:38] Izakun : sleger: seriously ?
[2017-01-06 18:35:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 885.04
[2017-01-06 18:35:58] sleger : Izakun: are you serious ?
[2017-01-06 18:36:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 36438 @ 883.69
[2017-01-06 18:36:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20 @ 880.57
[2017-01-06 18:36:03] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30000 @ 880.79
[2017-01-06 18:36:06] Izakun : sleger: yea ^^
[2017-01-06 18:36:27] SilverKnight : so whose short with me?
[2017-01-06 18:36:27] sleger : Izakun: so you think someone should pay 0.0005btc of network fees to send you 0.0001btc ?
[2017-01-06 18:36:47] Milkman : china even dumps in their sleep
[2017-01-06 18:36:54] sleger : Izakun: did you take an IQ test ever ?
[2017-01-06 18:37:31] mariomarco : whos buying lol
[2017-01-06 18:37:32] Izakun : sleger: I did not know that the fees is 0.0005
[2017-01-06 18:38:03] sleger : have you heard of bitcoin ?
[2017-01-06 18:38:21] MrRGnome : sleger: you're such a cock
[2017-01-06 18:38:34] sleger : MrRGnome: is he your friend ?
[2017-01-06 18:38:39] sleger : or your second account ?
[2017-01-06 18:38:39] MrRGnome : Nope.
[2017-01-06 18:38:49] Izakun : sleger: yea but many wallet the fees is free
[2017-01-06 18:38:55] sleger : sounds like something you might ask @MrRGnome
[2017-01-06 18:39:03] MrRGnome : lol you've never heard me beg
[2017-01-06 18:39:20] MrRGnome : except that one time I begged rapid to let me sleep on his couch during th eeth crash
[2017-01-06 18:39:23] sleger : not beg, but not know about something yes (fees...)
[2017-01-06 18:39:40] MrRGnome : I love the pedestal you put yourself on, and how often wrong you are
[2017-01-06 18:39:41] sleger : desperate times I guess....
[2017-01-06 18:39:59] MrRGnome : Never stop opening your mouth sleger, you'll be denying us some great joy
[2017-01-06 18:40:07] Izakun : If I put an action of 0.0001Xbtc I would still have a fee of 0.0005
[2017-01-06 18:40:23] sleger : MrRGnome: and I do it for free !
[2017-01-06 18:40:28] sleger : you're welcome
[2017-01-06 18:40:37] MrRGnome : <3
[2017-01-06 18:40:44] sleger : Izakun: ask your new friend the gnome
[2017-01-06 18:40:55] elmorte : Izakun: no
[2017-01-06 18:41:14] MrRGnome : @Izakun i think you need to do some general learning about bitcoin before you start begging for it, and don't beg here
[2017-01-06 18:41:14] Izakun : elmorte: the fees is free N
[2017-01-06 18:42:08] elmorte : There are wallets that don't charge fees @Izakun
[2017-01-06 18:42:49] rapidtrades : wtf...what's with all the useless vol
[2017-01-06 18:42:59] QuantFocus : useless?
[2017-01-06 18:43:13] rapidtrades : well we're not going anywhere are we
[2017-01-06 18:43:13] Izakun : elmorte: yea I know !
[2017-01-06 18:43:14] gustavo7 : crazy eights
[2017-01-06 18:43:20] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: price goes up rapid complains, price goes down rapid complains. Are you ever happy?
[2017-01-06 18:43:26] arbitrage001 : someone is borrowing a lot of btc to short
[2017-01-06 18:43:28] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: oh, we're going places
[2017-01-06 18:43:52] weather b0y4 : when I buy both the swap and the futures, how do I know when i am killed with the liquidation?
[2017-01-06 18:44:05] weather b0y4 : is there a way to see an estimate?
[2017-01-06 18:44:14] sleger : MrRGnome: i never put myself on a pedestal (others do it for me) and I've been wrong of course, but often no, and certainly much more right than wrong
[2017-01-06 18:44:17] QuantFocus : liquidation price, middle of your open positions
[2017-01-06 18:44:29] BitMEX_Greg : weather b0y4: We provide you a liquidation price in your position table. If you are liquidated then you will receive a liquidation notice email immediately
[2017-01-06 18:44:34] gustavo7 : i literaly hedged 895 five hours ago - gone nowhere
[2017-01-06 18:44:56] QuantFocus : one more leg down before this is over imo
[2017-01-06 18:44:59] gustavo7 : next stop liquidation station lol
[2017-01-06 18:45:05] QuantFocus : we'll breach 800
[2017-01-06 18:45:07] MrRGnome : sleger: so modest so humble, give yourself a pat on the back
[2017-01-06 18:45:30] SilverKnight : QuantFocus: my thoughts as well
[2017-01-06 18:45:48] Yazz : sleger: so which way from here for BTC?
[2017-01-06 18:46:05] elmorte : Yazz: 888888
[2017-01-06 18:46:08] sleger : Yazz: i'm long, but it's more a long term view
[2017-01-06 18:46:15] Yazz : sleger: copy that
[2017-01-06 18:46:50] Yazz : The interesting thing will be the extent to which the PRC comb-over crew get the wrecking ball out to scare of mums and dads
[2017-01-06 18:46:51] weather b0y4 : i think the chinese oversold and will wake up wanting to buy back in
[2017-01-06 18:46:51] SilverKnight : sleger: do you do short term analysis?
[2017-01-06 18:47:02] weather b0y4 : in like 4 hous?
[2017-01-06 18:47:04] abbey : oh well. took dog out and now it's like this. Still got some thousands to load on the way down to 850-860, if we ever go so down anymore.
[2017-01-06 18:47:34] rapidtrades : sleger just turned his bitcoin trade into an investment
[2017-01-06 18:47:40] sleger : SilverKnight: analysis not really, short term i do arbitrage between platforms, premiums etc...
[2017-01-06 18:48:04] rapidtrades : sleger: what platforms
[2017-01-06 18:48:14] sleger : rapidtrades: what i mean is that we could go down to 650, or go back quick to 1000 without going to 650
[2017-01-06 18:48:21] sleger : but either way i will hold my long
[2017-01-06 18:49:05] sleger : most platforms
[2017-01-06 18:49:36] sleger : bitvc, 0kc fut, btcchina spot, huobi spot, finex (small) , polo and of course here
[2017-01-06 18:50:13] rapidtrades : wtf....what about counter-party risk? is it worth it for the spot platforms?
[2017-01-06 18:50:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10 @ 887.34
[2017-01-06 18:51:06] abbey : sleger: that's wise. It's still bull market
[2017-01-06 18:51:10] Gekko : 847 soon
[2017-01-06 18:51:20] sleger : rapidtrades: if you put 10 btc on one platform or 1 btc on 10 platforms, cpty risk is about the same, assuming risk is same on each platform
[2017-01-06 18:51:35] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-01-06 18:51:42] rapidtrades : no it's not the same
[2017-01-06 18:51:53] sleger : " assuming risk is same on each platform"
[2017-01-06 18:51:55] Yazz : sleger: but if split there is less chance that all 10 will be hacked
[2017-01-06 18:51:55] sleger : yes it is
[2017-01-06 18:52:08] Yazz : you lose 1 BTC instead of 10
[2017-01-06 18:52:10] rapidtrades : sleger: right strictly theoretically speaking
[2017-01-06 18:52:14] sleger : Yazz: but there is more chance 1 or more will be hacked
[2017-01-06 18:52:29] Gekko : Hahaha those Chinese exchanges solid as a rock
[2017-01-06 18:52:29] Yazz : So higher chance of losing 1 but less chance of losing 10
[2017-01-06 18:52:50] sleger : yes, same expectation of loss
[2017-01-06 18:53:03] rapidtrades : I prolly lost 2-3x my arb profits during the buttfinesing....so not sure it's worth it
[2017-01-06 18:53:10] sleger : i went out of gox in time, not for finex, so small loss there
[2017-01-06 18:53:27] rapidtrades : maybe u do it better
[2017-01-06 18:53:46] aaaaa : i will probably get rekted
[2017-01-06 18:53:53] rapidtrades : fosho
[2017-01-06 18:53:58] sleger : well i still lost 100k in last 24 hours :)
[2017-01-06 18:54:19] MikeHunt : down to 6k
[2017-01-06 18:54:31] rapidtrades : meh that's 1 apartment, u still have 50 left
[2017-01-06 18:54:32] MikeHunt : then we start offensive towards great wall of 8888
[2017-01-06 18:54:43] sleger : rapidtrades: 49 ....
[2017-01-06 18:54:46] rapidtrades : in ur dreams Mike
[2017-01-06 18:54:54] weather b0y4 : i think we just need to wait for morning in china so cliche... but still
[2017-01-06 18:55:11] Gekko : 750 before 1000
[2017-01-06 18:55:24] MikeHunt : sleger: did you catch the dead cat?
[2017-01-06 18:56:23] sleger : is that some new TA shit ?
[2017-01-06 18:56:30] MikeHunt : sleger: yeh
[2017-01-06 18:56:44] MikeHunt : sleger: as it got to close 62% fib i said everyone bail out
[2017-01-06 18:56:55] sleger : i dont look at that
[2017-01-06 18:57:13] MikeHunt : sleger: was it worth 100k not to look at it?
[2017-01-06 18:57:22] sleger : no
[2017-01-06 18:57:24] aaaaa : lets go
[2017-01-06 18:57:26] sleger : TA is worth zero
[2017-01-06 18:57:47] MikeHunt : sleger: sounds like it would have been worth 100k in this instance
[2017-01-06 18:57:53] sleger : says the newB
[2017-01-06 18:58:05] MikeHunt : sleger: newb to bitmex
[2017-01-06 18:58:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2000 @ 913.14
[2017-01-06 18:58:32] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2017-01-06 18:59:01] abbey : I certainly don't think TA is worth zero
[2017-01-06 18:59:03] Milkman : short the bottom on 100x way to go someone
[2017-01-06 19:00:16] elmorte : MikeHunt: when did you call the 62% fib?
[2017-01-06 19:00:26] MikeHunt : i shorted around 7200
[2017-01-06 19:00:30] MikeHunt : then as we got closer i called it
[2017-01-06 19:00:36] MikeHunt : 7777 = unlucky chinese number
[2017-01-06 19:00:48] MikeHunt : they crashed it at 8888 so 7777 seemed likely dead cat target
[2017-01-06 19:01:32] sleger : lol
[2017-01-06 19:03:57] QuantFocus : choyna
[2017-01-06 19:04:10] rapidtrades : abbey: sleger has his own definition of TA :)
[2017-01-06 19:05:54] HANGHANG : going down or up can anyone tell me plz
[2017-01-06 19:06:09] MikeHunt : ~6k floor
[2017-01-06 19:06:14] MikeHunt : maybe
[2017-01-06 19:06:41] QuantFocus : HANGHANG: @MikeHunt has been right about 10% of the time, so he's a good guy to listen to
[2017-01-06 19:07:57] MikeHunt : HANGHANG: ive noticed when i get it right everyone usually gets butthurt, not sure why, only trying to help
[2017-01-06 19:07:58] MrRGnome : I'd actually agree with a 6k bounce.
[2017-01-06 19:08:02] rapidtrades : hey nerds, any way I can measure the weight of my bag without a scale
[2017-01-06 19:08:15] QuantFocus : eyeball it
[2017-01-06 19:08:28] rapidtrades : k
[2017-01-06 19:08:28] QuantFocus : 1g = 50cent piece
[2017-01-06 19:08:35] QuantFocus : apx
[2017-01-06 19:08:38] rapidtrades : what
[2017-01-06 19:08:49] mariomarco : whos buying lol
[2017-01-06 19:08:52] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2017-01-06 19:08:56] mariomarco : soon rekted
[2017-01-06 19:09:08] QuantFocus : oh...what are you talking about?
[2017-01-06 19:09:10] rapidtrades : do u mean 50 centimeters?
[2017-01-06 19:09:18] HANGHANG : MikeHunt: thx
[2017-01-06 19:09:23] QuantFocus : no, like the american's money
[2017-01-06 19:09:33] QuantFocus : 50 cents
[2017-01-06 19:09:35] rapidtrades : WHAT
[2017-01-06 19:09:46] rapidtrades : how is that helpful
[2017-01-06 19:09:48] elmorte : Curtis?
[2017-01-06 19:10:10] sleger : is there a 50c coin in the US ?
[2017-01-06 19:10:12] QuantFocus : well, that's 1g, so just scale up to the amount you bought
[2017-01-06 19:10:17] sleger : i think they only use quarters and lower
[2017-01-06 19:10:22] QuantFocus : sleger: sure, they have it
[2017-01-06 19:10:41] rapidtrades : QuantFocus: are u crazy? I dont' have 10000 50c coins u dummy
[2017-01-06 19:10:46] elmorte : QuantFocus: I think he means his luggage, not his weed
[2017-01-06 19:10:54] QuantFocus : oh, hahah
[2017-01-06 19:10:55] HANGHANG : I guess tonight price will going down again
[2017-01-06 19:10:57] QuantFocus : damn
[2017-01-06 19:11:13] sleger : QuantFocus: Though uncommonly used today, half dollar coins have a long history of heavy use alongside other denominations of coinage, but have faded out of general circulation for many reasons.
[2017-01-06 19:11:25] arezki : hello
[2017-01-06 19:11:31] sleger : It was produced in fairly large quantities until the year 2002, when the U.S. Mint ceased production of the coin for general circulation
[2017-01-06 19:11:37] rapidtrades : sleger: he's still right
[2017-01-06 19:11:46] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: in that case, do you have a personal scale at least? like for body weight?
[2017-01-06 19:11:49] sleger : yes technically
[2017-01-06 19:11:55] sleger : but even more useless
[2017-01-06 19:11:55] rapidtrades : NO @QuantFocus
[2017-01-06 19:12:06] arezki : Why did% go down?
[2017-01-06 19:12:24] QuantFocus : rapidtrades: do you lift weights bro?
[2017-01-06 19:12:29] rapidtrades : If I had a f*cking scale, i would just ut the f*Cking bag on it...capish?
[2017-01-06 19:12:33] QuantFocus : maybe just compare some freeweights to your bag
[2017-01-06 19:13:01] elmorte : yeah rapid...just make sure your form is on point