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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-01-05 03:07:13] nOgAnOo : drunken scammers
[2017-01-05 03:07:13] MikeHunt : notches down to find entrance to next level
[2017-01-05 03:07:15] arbitrage001 : MikeHunt: what do you mean
[2017-01-05 03:07:20] imapotato : finex already lost 100k coins, I have no idea why anyone trades there
[2017-01-05 03:07:41] rapidtrades : imapotato: they're using their fake tokens are margin
[2017-01-05 03:07:49] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: which part of comment u referring to?
[2017-01-05 03:07:58] imapotato : And their software is a bootleg of some defunct business that was written by a minor
[2017-01-05 03:08:02] imapotato : (minor, not miner)
[2017-01-05 03:08:04] arbitrage001 : liability is this bubble?
[2017-01-05 03:08:10] MikeHunt : imapotato: they did bail ppl out iirc so they maintained market share and they didnt run with goins like gox owners
[2017-01-05 03:08:18] muirtastic : imapotato: I don't get it either. They will never get another penny of mine
[2017-01-05 03:08:32] rapidtrades : they most certianly did not 'bail out' anyone
[2017-01-05 03:08:36] imapotato : MikeHunt: They gave people equity in their business, which was worth less than the coins they lost.
[2017-01-05 03:08:39] Milkman : bitfinex attempt #3
[2017-01-05 03:08:41] imapotato : not a bail out
[2017-01-05 03:08:41] nOgAnOo : 20 dollar premium
[2017-01-05 03:08:43] rapidtrades : in fact they bailed me in while i held 95% USD
[2017-01-05 03:08:58] imapotato : speak of the devil, finex knocking on 1150 again
[2017-01-05 03:09:17] sleger : so stamp is the one holding the index hostage
[2017-01-05 03:09:19] arbitrage001 : china already make btc all time high?
[2017-01-05 03:09:25] Milkman : yup
[2017-01-05 03:09:25] MikeHunt : imapotato: externalizing blame and pacifying the masses delays issues
[2017-01-05 03:09:44] imapotato : MikeHunt: Yeah, finex probably made the best choice after the hack
[2017-01-05 03:09:50] imapotato : whoop dee doo
[2017-01-05 03:09:54] imapotato : They were still hacked for 100k+ coins
[2017-01-05 03:10:09] MikeHunt : imapotato: but its a symptom of indemic inefficiency
[2017-01-05 03:10:36] MikeHunt : sleger: bitstunk does anal quizs on high volume clients hence its becoming more unpopular
[2017-01-05 03:10:47] imapotato : >bitstunk does anal
[2017-01-05 03:10:48] imapotato : hehe
[2017-01-05 03:11:00] MikeHunt : imapotato: look up the questionaire, its why i left
[2017-01-05 03:11:28] MikeHunt : imapotato: also their bank is linked to Unicredito, when asked about solvency issues, they refuse to comment
[2017-01-05 03:11:45] MikeHunt : so in a way bitstamp is also a liability if unicredito fails
[2017-01-05 03:12:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 17500 @ 1135.84
[2017-01-05 03:12:10] MikeHunt : potential liability*
[2017-01-05 03:12:20] arbitrage001 : i think bitstamp is faking volume
[2017-01-05 03:12:22] imapotato : the bitmex team should open a spot exchange alongside the derivatives
[2017-01-05 03:12:31] imapotato : except then they have to deal with fiat...
[2017-01-05 03:12:42] MikeHunt : imapotato: which means banks and reg
[2017-01-05 03:12:45] imapotato : yeah
[2017-01-05 03:12:54] rms : bitfinex not ready to cross but okc just keeps going and going...
[2017-01-05 03:12:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50000 @ 1137.20 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-05 03:13:12] imapotato : WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE STILL SHORT
[2017-01-05 03:13:28] imapotato : china and stamp both pumping up, and finex is now flaccid
[2017-01-05 03:13:29] imapotato : :|
[2017-01-05 03:13:29] Milkman : cause bitfinex and stamp cant go up
[2017-01-05 03:13:52] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: bitstump's volume makes bitcoinwisdom graph look like skeletor when using smaller time intervals
[2017-01-05 03:14:59] imapotato : Think China is going to do ATH in the next few minutes?
[2017-01-05 03:15:00] imapotato : close
[2017-01-05 03:15:23] rms : what's the ATH you are thinking of?
[2017-01-05 03:15:28] imapotato : maybe that would be enough to pull finex through 1150
[2017-01-05 03:15:30] trejderjack : yes sir
[2017-01-05 03:15:44] imapotato : china ATH is about 8815
[2017-01-05 03:15:52] imapotato : give or take a few CNY
[2017-01-05 03:16:02] imapotato : from about 2 hours ago
[2017-01-05 03:16:57] Milkman : 8725
[2017-01-05 03:17:02] olimano1 : whats cross leverage?
[2017-01-05 03:17:22] imapotato : olimano1: It uses your entire balance as collateral
[2017-01-05 03:17:22] Milkman : means your whole available balance is used to protect your position before you get margin called
[2017-01-05 03:17:34] Milkman : aka you could lose everything you put on this site
[2017-01-05 03:17:50] Milkman : bitfinex triple top dump
[2017-01-05 03:17:51] arbitrage001 : buy the dip!
[2017-01-05 03:17:57] Milkman : maybe next time we'll do it
[2017-01-05 03:18:10] imapotato : finex is lame
[2017-01-05 03:18:27] arbitrage001 : i still buy and sell from finex
[2017-01-05 03:18:30] rapidtrades : lame as balls lame
[2017-01-05 03:18:39] aethlios : premium going down.
[2017-01-05 03:18:41] arbitrage001 : where else youcan buy cheap btc?
[2017-01-05 03:19:44] Milkman : btce
[2017-01-05 03:19:57] arbitrage001 : not easy to get money into btce
[2017-01-05 03:20:03] MikeHunt : looking at Alexa Bitfinex is in decline
[2017-01-05 03:20:11] MikeHunt : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitfinex.com
[2017-01-05 03:20:19] arbitrage001 : and there isnt really that much liquidity at btce
[2017-01-05 03:20:37] Milkman : seems people are sending their money to other places than bitfinex
[2017-01-05 03:20:45] arbitrage001 : such as?
[2017-01-05 03:21:01] Milkman : gdax, gemini
[2017-01-05 03:21:12] Milkman : really all exchanges suck for liquidity
[2017-01-05 03:21:24] Milkman : otherwise they'd keep up with china
[2017-01-05 03:21:43] MikeHunt : Milkman: bitstump seems to be taking it
[2017-01-05 03:21:52] MikeHunt : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitstamp.net
[2017-01-05 03:22:38] MikeHunt : btc-e is growing http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/btc-e.com
[2017-01-05 03:23:42] rapidtrades : gooo btce
[2017-01-05 03:24:23] johndoe : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitmex.com
[2017-01-05 03:24:27] johndoe : bitmex has a nice uptrend
[2017-01-05 03:24:29] MikeHunt : my issue with btce is it seems a bit shaddy
[2017-01-05 03:24:32] johndoe : but still behind
[2017-01-05 03:24:43] MikeHunt : johndoe: bitmex isnt really comparable as no fiat
[2017-01-05 03:24:55] arbitrage001 : MikeHunt: yet they never steal money from customers before
[2017-01-05 03:25:01] johndoe : i know, i just mean the uptrend
[2017-01-05 03:25:04] rapidtrades : United States 14% lol
[2017-01-05 03:25:16] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: if something did go wrong, there's very little trace left
[2017-01-05 03:25:26] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: i like to know whoes handling my stuff
[2017-01-05 03:25:58] elmorte : Judging by that alexa link, the default language here should be Japanese instead of Chinese
[2017-01-05 03:26:15] rapidtrades : those are the quoine losers
[2017-01-05 03:26:43] rapidtrades : we pretend that the partnership never happened
[2017-01-05 03:27:09] rapidtrades : number will prolly tank after they seperated
[2017-01-05 03:27:31] elmorte : Some 1984 shit. Still listed under XBJ though
[2017-01-05 03:28:03] rapidtrades : that's only daily...is that 100% quoine or 50%
[2017-01-05 03:28:18] rapidtrades : thye used to have the whole range weekly-3m
[2017-01-05 03:28:32] elmorte : yeah...think that's the only daily left
[2017-01-05 03:28:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 360 @ 1140.40
[2017-01-05 03:29:25] rapidtrades : aethlios: up or down?
[2017-01-05 03:30:26] aethlios : we approach ATH in usd, china broke it, but such resistance usually wants 3 attempts to break.
[2017-01-05 03:30:28] elmorte : What do the boy bands say?
[2017-01-05 03:31:01] aethlios : maybe a fakeout above ATH in usd and dump. but vurrency issues from china important, can't say.
[2017-01-05 03:31:29] elmorte : Thru all this, CNH actually got stronger
[2017-01-05 03:31:39] elmorte : fathom me that rapid!
[2017-01-05 03:31:39] l3f : elmorte: yes but FOMO
[2017-01-05 03:31:42] rapidtrades : 1.3 stronger actually
[2017-01-05 03:31:47] rapidtrades : %
[2017-01-05 03:32:02] l3f : aethlios: do you think ATH will break in USD?
[2017-01-05 03:32:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1141.70
[2017-01-05 03:32:10] rapidtrades : see the ZH link i posted above @elmorte
[2017-01-05 03:32:23] elmorte : let me check
[2017-01-05 03:32:43] aethlios : l3f: very rare such resistance to break at once. a touch and dump or a fake out 50 usd and dump.
[2017-01-05 03:33:09] elmorte : @Bitmex_Sam: you da man
[2017-01-05 03:33:11] l3f : China is constantly pumping on Chinese exchanges and offloading the dump to bitstamp and finex
[2017-01-05 03:33:19] elmorte : arbitrage001: he listened :)
[2017-01-05 03:33:45] arbitrage001 : elmorte: who?
[2017-01-05 03:33:58] elmorte : Sam re: chat archive
[2017-01-05 03:34:16] l3f : HAHA funding rate pegged to the max
[2017-01-05 03:34:25] l3f : for the next 16 hours
[2017-01-05 03:34:32] l3f : Pedal to the metal
[2017-01-05 03:34:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 136300 @ 1142.84 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-05 03:34:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 35 @ 1143.14
[2017-01-05 03:34:37] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes, chat archive is in, as is hiding the sidebar
[2017-01-05 03:34:43] BitMEX_Sam : Click the options gear on the sidebar to hide it
[2017-01-05 03:35:04] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: damn son, easy on the adderall
[2017-01-05 03:35:11] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: nice feature
[2017-01-05 03:35:15] BitMEX_Sam : Lots more coming
[2017-01-05 03:35:24] elmorte : :)
[2017-01-05 03:35:24] BitMEX_Sam : My wife's out of town. Working all week
[2017-01-05 03:35:36] elmorte : oh that's awesome
[2017-01-05 03:35:44] aethlios : finex rates 0.30%, eryone long on margin
[2017-01-05 03:35:46] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: how much of the swap fund is left
[2017-01-05 03:35:58] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: The alert when an order is executed say "bought" even when you short/sell
[2017-01-05 03:36:02] aethlios : such rates haven't seen since 2013 pump
[2017-01-05 03:36:06] BitMEX_Sam : iirc ~60 XBT @rapidtrades
[2017-01-05 03:36:08] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks Rado2 will address
[2017-01-05 03:36:30] rapidtrades : hmm not bad i guess
[2017-01-05 03:36:46] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: any discussion on cap remove being discussed?
[2017-01-05 03:36:48] l3f : aethlios: I told ya, you're missing the best part of the pump
[2017-01-05 03:36:58] BitMEX_Sam : We're discussing it, but we don't want to shock or change the market
[2017-01-05 03:37:02] l3f : the run up will be nothing compared to what's to come
[2017-01-05 03:37:09] BitMEX_Sam : We got the message loud & clear the last time we made changes
[2017-01-05 03:37:10] l3f : the later you enter the more dangerous it is
[2017-01-05 03:37:12] Speran49 : any chance of this coming back down a bit?
[2017-01-05 03:37:12] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: the market is already shocked
[2017-01-05 03:37:25] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for hiding the sidebar feature :-)
[2017-01-05 03:37:44] aethlios : we need more info what happens in china money markets
[2017-01-05 03:37:48] l3f : Rado2: Prevents panic ells
[2017-01-05 03:37:52] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: what's the resolution cutoff for switching to the mobile version? Seems it could be lower now with the hidden sidebar...
[2017-01-05 03:37:59] l3f : aethlios: I can tell you Chinese social media is hungry for more
[2017-01-05 03:38:15] Rado2 : l3f: I requested it since when you are running a bot you don't need manual entries
[2017-01-05 03:38:17] MikeHunt : aethlios: all you need to know is bitcoin will last longer than the PRC
[2017-01-05 03:40:09] l3f : The only danger is the PRC dumps before we do
[2017-01-05 03:40:20] l3f : PBoC just comes out and fucks our shit
[2017-01-05 03:40:49] Speran49 : a dump right now would be nice
[2017-01-05 03:40:51] rapidtrades : Rado2: how's the bot doing so far?
[2017-01-05 03:40:56] aethlios : PBOC i guess intervened today in usdcnh
[2017-01-05 03:41:10] MikeHunt : l3f: they wont dump, the indicator will be the PRC (regime not peoples) health
[2017-01-05 03:41:24] Rado2 : rapidtrades: still at profit, but a few errors that prevent me to have way bigger profits today
[2017-01-05 03:41:26] Rado2 : need to address them
[2017-01-05 03:41:37] MikeHunt : l3f: if they try to ban it, there will only be minor correction imo, its still bull market and chinese love btc
[2017-01-05 03:41:52] rapidtrades : Rado2: cool
[2017-01-05 03:41:53] l3f : MikeHunt: hehhe
[2017-01-05 03:42:05] rapidtrades : real test will be on the way down imo
[2017-01-05 03:42:07] l3f : I hope BTCChina and OkCoin are funding the right officials with their massive gains
[2017-01-05 03:42:19] l3f : Otherwise they'll get their balls stepped on
[2017-01-05 03:42:19] rapidtrades : to see how much of the profits it will lose during crash
[2017-01-05 03:42:22] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: black swan means back to the mean, thats all
[2017-01-05 03:42:25] imapotato : new ath huobi
[2017-01-05 03:42:27] Rado2 : rapidtrades: agreed
[2017-01-05 03:42:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 20000 @ 9251.2
[2017-01-05 03:42:42] imapotato : people still shorting btc XD
[2017-01-05 03:42:59] MikeHunt : imapotato: you can short if you time the drops correctly
[2017-01-05 03:43:05] MikeHunt : imapotato: it has a certain pattern
[2017-01-05 03:45:04] mariomarco : MikeHunt: when do you see the next one
[2017-01-05 03:45:25] Speran49 : could be soon
[2017-01-05 03:45:29] Speran49 : huge resistnce at this lvl
[2017-01-05 03:45:45] MikeHunt : mariomarco: its going up to next level soon
[2017-01-05 03:45:52] Speran49 : whaaa
[2017-01-05 03:46:00] mariomarco : next level?
[2017-01-05 03:46:08] MikeHunt : each level has a few stages
[2017-01-05 03:46:08] mariomarco : which level is "the next level"
[2017-01-05 03:46:14] Speran49 : ugh i neeed a drop to 1150 to get out of my short
[2017-01-05 03:46:20] immackay : imapotato: people not knowing how to short correctly
[2017-01-05 03:46:21] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i dont know
[2017-01-05 03:46:34] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i know the pattern i dont know the exact points of where it will land
[2017-01-05 03:46:47] mariomarco : MikeHunt: you got some picture?
[2017-01-05 03:46:52] MikeHunt : hint; btc goes up like this does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-e0b_Y4sJY&t=80s
[2017-01-05 03:46:55] mariomarco : link, id like to see your view of things
[2017-01-05 03:47:00] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i dont wanna give too much away or it could be ruined
[2017-01-05 03:47:05] MikeHunt : :/
[2017-01-05 03:47:16] mariomarco : fair enough
[2017-01-05 03:47:26] immackay : lol
[2017-01-05 03:47:41] MikeHunt : what i will say is go long and keep an eye on the news for black swans and ull be ok
[2017-01-05 03:48:39] MikeHunt : mariomarco: oops wrong time, i meant it goes up like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-e0b_Y4sJY&t=100s
[2017-01-05 03:48:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5850 @ 1146.35
[2017-01-05 03:48:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 46535 @ 1145.54
[2017-01-05 03:48:44] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 62772 @ 1145.46 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-05 03:49:23] rapidtrades : lolz :(
[2017-01-05 03:50:27] arbitrage001 : here go insurance fund
[2017-01-05 03:51:35] Speran49 : what i REKT?
[2017-01-05 03:51:50] MikeHunt : imo when this drops the insurance fund will be x.x already
[2017-01-05 03:52:14] Speran49 : what is*
[2017-01-05 03:52:19] Speran49 : is it someones bot?
[2017-01-05 03:52:34] MikeHunt : Speran49: basically a chat grim reaper bot who announces his last victim
[2017-01-05 03:52:38] MrRGnome : MikeHunt: yeah ADL is going to be rough on the drop
[2017-01-05 03:52:44] rapidtrades : IT's a guy with a penchant for reverge...whatever you do don't get on his bad side
[2017-01-05 03:53:14] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: i may just hold fiat elsewhere if it does
[2017-01-05 03:53:16] rapidtrades : REKT: I <3 U
[2017-01-05 03:53:20] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: 1x may not even be safe
[2017-01-05 03:53:39] Speran49 : ADL?
[2017-01-05 03:54:09] rapidtrades : all organic salt, no preservatives
[2017-01-05 03:54:39] MrRGnome : Speran49: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2017-01-05 03:55:22] rapidtrades : buy ADL now for $4.33 through my affiliate link for 25% discount https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/cooking/adl/rapid
[2017-01-05 03:55:24] Speran49 : seems fair enough
[2017-01-05 03:56:11] MrRGnome : Speran49: It's actually not fair at all, but it's a necessary evil
[2017-01-05 03:56:42] Speran49 : well ilike the better trades vs worse ones
[2017-01-05 03:57:19] rapidtrades : 3 mins till payday bitches
[2017-01-05 03:57:28] rapidtrades : give daddy the dough
[2017-01-05 03:57:42] Speran49 : do you get paid if you're short?
[2017-01-05 03:57:48] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-01-05 03:57:50] immackay : rapidtrades: incoming jump you think?
[2017-01-05 03:57:57] rapidtrades : for sure
[2017-01-05 03:58:00] MrRGnome : No he's talking the funding
[2017-01-05 03:58:05] immackay : ah
[2017-01-05 03:58:07] immackay : right
[2017-01-05 03:58:36] MrRGnome : I'm kind of hoping they cut the leverage and up the funding cap.
[2017-01-05 03:59:32] elmorte : ooh ETH you sneaky lil minx...
[2017-01-05 03:59:46] immackay : elmorte: what's eth up to
[2017-01-05 03:59:51] rapidtrades : DO IT, DO IT NAO
[2017-01-05 04:00:00] elmorte : immackay: $11+
[2017-01-05 04:00:04] aethlios : premiums calming down
[2017-01-05 04:00:09] MrRGnome : lol
[2017-01-05 04:00:13] MrRGnome : the post funding bump
[2017-01-05 04:00:15] elmorte : you'd still be better off if you left your money in BTC, but it's alright
[2017-01-05 04:00:31] elmorte : for those of us who keep some for rainy day
[2017-01-05 04:01:41] elmorte : XMR following BTC as well...
[2017-01-05 04:01:56] immackay : I still regret not buying xmr a week or so ago
[2017-01-05 04:02:02] immackay : should probably get some
[2017-01-05 04:02:50] elmorte : rapidtrades: good article, not sure if I get it though...shouldn't higher deposit rates = higher liquidity?
[2017-01-05 04:03:07] elmorte : for the banks
[2017-01-05 04:03:13] rapidtrades : no
[2017-01-05 04:03:50] rapidtrades : the rates are high because they drained liquidty
[2017-01-05 04:04:14] elmorte : oh, the rates of return?
[2017-01-05 04:04:36] rapidtrades : the overnight lending rates rates
[2017-01-05 04:04:39] elmorte : yeah, that makes more sense :)
[2017-01-05 04:04:46] elmorte : cheers big ears
[2017-01-05 04:06:29] rapidtrades : back to $20 premium, crazy shit
[2017-01-05 04:07:17] immackay : bitmex going up, mark going down
[2017-01-05 04:07:18] immackay : ok
[2017-01-05 04:07:31] XXXX : $20 premium is still low considering the cap on lending
[2017-01-05 04:07:43] XXXX : lending rates
[2017-01-05 04:08:24] elmorte : China at $100 premium...
[2017-01-05 04:08:44] elmorte : yet, our March futures only at $49
[2017-01-05 04:09:01] happy : amazing. huobi goes 8600-8690, and at the same time, bitmex from 1120-1166
[2017-01-05 04:09:02] rms : by march the premium will be arb'd away
[2017-01-05 04:09:35] happy : Huobi up 1%, Bitmex up 4%
[2017-01-05 04:09:52] cookielito : finex booming
[2017-01-05 04:09:59] elmorte : rms: in spot?
[2017-01-05 04:10:22] rms : yeah, the premium between usa and china erodes in times of stability
[2017-01-05 04:10:47] happy : got it, it was because of funding
[2017-01-05 04:10:49] rms : like you can actually safely do the arbitrage if you aren't a chinese citizen and live in china or something, it's just a hassle
[2017-01-05 04:11:05] rms : and right now you make more money just buying bitcoin so know one bothers to arbitrage
[2017-01-05 04:11:51] elmorte : True, but all things equal, China will always have a slight premium
[2017-01-05 04:12:00] elmorte : $20 seems to be the norm
[2017-01-05 04:12:16] arbitrage001 : elmorte: china have discount in bear market before
[2017-01-05 04:12:24] imapotato : oh shit i missed finex 1150
[2017-01-05 04:12:26] imapotato : woop woop here we go
[2017-01-05 04:12:32] elmorte : but temporarily only
[2017-01-05 04:12:47] elmorte : when the BTC is moving sideways, China will tend towards a premium
[2017-01-05 04:13:14] l3f : Hey bitmex, does BFX have more volume than stamp now? Will BFX be moved back into the index?
[2017-01-05 04:13:18] l3f : Stamp prices are btc-e bad now
[2017-01-05 04:14:34] MikeHunt : l3f: stamp does anal quiz
[2017-01-05 04:14:41] l3f : Volume 24h on bfx is 60k, stamp only has 210k
[2017-01-05 04:14:47] l3f : 21k*
[2017-01-05 04:14:48] l3f : https://bitcoincharts.com/markets/bitstampUSD_trades.html
[2017-01-05 04:14:49] MikeHunt : l3f: fees are lower as well iirc
[2017-01-05 04:14:52] l3f : https://www.bfxdata.com/
[2017-01-05 04:14:54] immackay : l3f: yeah the index price has been weird as for the last week or two
[2017-01-05 04:15:12] l3f : It's because bitstamp is the new btc-e
[2017-01-05 04:15:27] arbitrage001 : price distortion happen all over the world
[2017-01-05 04:15:37] arbitrage001 : for good reason
[2017-01-05 04:15:40] elmorte : arbitrage001: although this chart doesn;t support my statement very much: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/mNb9eaNM/
[2017-01-05 04:15:48] arbitrage001 : china going to blow up
[2017-01-05 04:15:51] elmorte : only for the last few months
[2017-01-05 04:16:08] l3f : Even Kraken doesn't have bitstamp prices
[2017-01-05 04:16:26] MikeHunt : should be pumping within hr
[2017-01-05 04:16:32] rapidtrades : kraken at 1032 right now
[2017-01-05 04:16:46] l3f : rapidtrades: For euros
[2017-01-05 04:16:57] rapidtrades : yes ofc
[2017-01-05 04:17:00] rapidtrades : that's the only liquid pair
[2017-01-05 04:17:19] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: is that usd or eur?
[2017-01-05 04:17:34] l3f : 1,142.2 is kraken btc/usd
[2017-01-05 04:18:46] cookielito : finex seems bullish as hell
[2017-01-05 04:18:47] MikeHunt : volume on krapen is a bit shit for non-eur
[2017-01-05 04:19:01] l3f : Anyways bfx has more volume now since it has margin trading
[2017-01-05 04:19:18] l3f : way more liquid that cash only stamp
[2017-01-05 04:19:25] l3f : than*
[2017-01-05 04:19:32] immackay : local top for bitfinex
[2017-01-05 04:20:39] immackay : small dump incoming
[2017-01-05 04:23:36] happy : Another ATH incoming
[2017-01-05 04:25:17] javierstone : bitfinex price is swinging like crazy
[2017-01-05 04:25:34] MikeHunt : happy: yeh, this could go quite far
[2017-01-05 04:26:11] mg : target?
[2017-01-05 04:26:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 50000 @ 0.00000551
[2017-01-05 04:26:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 6799 @ 0.001558
[2017-01-05 04:32:04] javierstone : pumpomundo
[2017-01-05 04:32:25] l3f : mg: 1 billion CNY
[2017-01-05 04:32:38] javierstone : finex better not fuck it up
[2017-01-05 04:32:40] javierstone : its going crazy
[2017-01-05 04:32:44] javierstone : psycotic
[2017-01-05 04:33:48] javierstone : the yuan is so undesired
[2017-01-05 04:34:06] cookielito : I know
[2017-01-05 04:34:39] javierstone : this run is half about the love of bitcoin and half the hate of the yuan
[2017-01-05 04:35:37] MikeHunt : javierstone: not just the yuan, greed as well
[2017-01-05 04:35:38] mg : l3f: Excellent
[2017-01-05 04:36:48] immackay : that is a wicked buy wall
[2017-01-05 04:37:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 9970 @ 9262.0
[2017-01-05 04:37:13] MikeHunt : immackay: the more it goes sideways the higher it will jump wen it breaks through
[2017-01-05 04:37:29] immackay : true
[2017-01-05 04:37:48] happy : wEEEEEEEEEEEE
[2017-01-05 04:37:53] happy : All Time High!!!! Incoming
[2017-01-05 04:37:54] cookielito : wooo
[2017-01-05 04:38:24] imapotato : to the mooono
[2017-01-05 04:38:40] Speran49 : so question
[2017-01-05 04:38:45] Speran49 : mark on perpetuals isn't updating
[2017-01-05 04:38:51] Speran49 : and shorts aren't being liquidated
[2017-01-05 04:38:51] rapidtrades : $28 premium....great
[2017-01-05 04:38:54] Speran49 : what is going on?
[2017-01-05 04:39:02] rapidtrades : spot isn't moving
[2017-01-05 04:39:11] javierstone : shorts bout to get rekt on CH17
[2017-01-05 04:39:11] rapidtrades : its just idiots fomoing the swap
[2017-01-05 04:39:23] sleger : no its stamp fault
[2017-01-05 04:39:31] rapidtrades : shut up sleger
[2017-01-05 04:39:37] javierstone : sleger: oh because its part of the index
[2017-01-05 04:39:44] imapotato : stamp is a ghost town
[2017-01-05 04:39:59] rapidtrades : no its cos ur all idiots fomoing on margin
[2017-01-05 04:40:03] rapidtrades : stamp is the real deal
[2017-01-05 04:40:26] MikeHunt : seems people dont like stamps anal quiz
[2017-01-05 04:40:28] MikeHunt : wonder why....
[2017-01-05 04:40:49] MikeHunt : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/246mlg/bitstamp_blocking_accounts_with_some_know_your/
[2017-01-05 04:40:53] rapidtrades : it's the most real (no margin) price
[2017-01-05 04:41:10] immackay : minor dump incoming
[2017-01-05 04:41:44] immackay : rapidtrades: yeah, what's wrong with stamp?
[2017-01-05 04:41:45] MikeHunt : i need to take a dump but im scared it might jinx it
[2017-01-05 04:41:52] MikeHunt : and make btc dump
[2017-01-05 04:42:40] rapidtrades : immackay: guess it's too low for their bullish dreams
[2017-01-05 04:42:45] JamesPolo : MikeHunt: same haven't shat in 5 days
[2017-01-05 04:42:51] MikeHunt : JamesPolo: haha
[2017-01-05 04:43:04] immackay : rapidtrades: the bulls can't keep going forever
[2017-01-05 04:43:22] rapidtrades : last 3 months says ur wrong mckay
[2017-01-05 04:43:56] immackay : previous spikes before that say i'm right
[2017-01-05 04:46:15] rapidtrades : u just don;t understand the new paradigm shift mc kay?
[2017-01-05 04:46:32] immackay : I guess not
[2017-01-05 04:46:44] rapidtrades : this is the rally that will put a ferrari in each bitcoin's garage
[2017-01-05 04:47:00] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: +1
[2017-01-05 04:47:11] immackay : bitcoin will reach $3000 by february I guess
[2017-01-05 04:47:11] 24hourz : Everyone fomo !!!
[2017-01-05 04:47:48] MikeHunt : immackay: the only limit is a black swan
[2017-01-05 04:47:58] MikeHunt : botnets are already attacking huobi/okc
[2017-01-05 04:49:32] Kong : where can i watch a live chart of the kaiko price?
[2017-01-05 04:54:17] MikeHunt : Kong: costs $ iirc
[2017-01-05 04:54:49] rapidtrades : $23 on okc weekly for 1 day...what are u smoking ppl
[2017-01-05 04:55:11] rapidtrades : cos i want some of that
[2017-01-05 04:58:48] immackay : really tired of bitcoinwisdom not refreshing properly on chrome
[2017-01-05 04:58:54] immackay : firefox works correctly?
[2017-01-05 04:59:02] MikeHunt : immackay: yup
[2017-01-05 04:59:07] immackay : mmk
[2017-01-05 04:59:08] MikeHunt : immackay: known issue
[2017-01-05 05:00:00] immackay : I suppose firefox should be fine now
[2017-01-05 05:00:15] immackay : switched a couple months ago cause it was bogging down my system
[2017-01-05 05:00:22] immackay : but I've upgraded since then
[2017-01-05 05:01:21] MikeHunt : immackay: both browsers have scaling issues
[2017-01-05 05:01:26] MikeHunt : i use both
[2017-01-05 05:01:52] immackay : scaling issues in what way?
[2017-01-05 05:02:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 60000 @ 9303.2 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-05 05:02:08] immackay : oh nice
[2017-01-05 05:02:15] imapotato : how many liquidated shorts will it take for you all to learn :'((
[2017-01-05 05:03:00] MikeHunt : lift off
[2017-01-05 05:03:10] imapotato : china flying high
[2017-01-05 05:03:20] imapotato : 9000 doesn't seem so far away
[2017-01-05 05:03:22] rapidtrades : well $30 premium...wtf bitmex
[2017-01-05 05:03:33] immackay : this is pretty weak
[2017-01-05 05:03:35] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: yeah this is pretty crazy
[2017-01-05 05:03:38] rapidtrades : this is a joke
[2017-01-05 05:03:54] arbitrage001 : MM already broke
[2017-01-05 05:04:07] immackay : yeah that was a weak rally
[2017-01-05 05:04:10] arbitrage001 : and i run out of money also
[2017-01-05 05:04:14] rapidtrades : now even 50/1 cut won't fix this
[2017-01-05 05:04:29] imapotato : I uhh... I'm watching something live
[2017-01-05 05:04:30] MrRGnome : I'm not complaining or anything, this works for me. But if the goal of the funding mechanism is to get it to track mark, it is clearly failing spectacularly in its current context.
[2017-01-05 05:04:31] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: it may
[2017-01-05 05:04:38] imapotato : And the chat and the streamer are now discussing bitcoin.
[2017-01-05 05:04:43] imapotato : Bitcoin is completely unrelated to the stream.
[2017-01-05 05:04:50] imapotato : it's happening
[2017-01-05 05:04:51] rapidtrades : 50/1 caps it at 1.35%?
[2017-01-05 05:05:02] arbitrage001 : people who trade yield are very sentitive to interest rate
[2017-01-05 05:05:04] rapidtrades : or 1.5%?
[2017-01-05 05:05:20] imapotato : "it's too complicated of a currency to catch on" says the streamer
[2017-01-05 05:05:32] immackay : "complicated"
[2017-01-05 05:05:34] imapotato : "if the layman can't understand it, it won't work"
[2017-01-05 05:05:37] imapotato : lmfao this is hilarious
[2017-01-05 05:05:39] immackay : they'll learn eventually
[2017-01-05 05:05:45] immackay : like
[2017-01-05 05:05:46] imapotato : I think I died and went to heaven
[2017-01-05 05:05:50] immackay : how is it complicated
[2017-01-05 05:06:07] rapidtrades : it's too complicated maaan
[2017-01-05 05:07:37] imapotato : is bitstamp dead?
[2017-01-05 05:07:41] imapotato : or just the data feed on bitcoinwisdom?
[2017-01-05 05:08:11] rms : you can try typing bitstamp.net into your computer to check
[2017-01-05 05:08:13] rms : works for me
[2017-01-05 05:08:20] immackay : it's up, just no trades for the last while
[2017-01-05 05:08:23] immackay : for whatever reason
[2017-01-05 05:08:42] imapotato : ok
[2017-01-05 05:08:45] imapotato : that's an impressive flatline.
[2017-01-05 05:08:50] MrRGnome : Americans are very hesitant
[2017-01-05 05:08:55] rms : https://www.bitstamp.net/market/tradeview/
[2017-01-05 05:11:17] micmix : $25 premium, oh wow
[2017-01-05 05:11:59] arbitrage001 : micmix: is your mm bot still running?
[2017-01-05 05:12:08] micmix : of course
[2017-01-05 05:12:12] rapidtrades : micmix: its $30...
[2017-01-05 05:12:21] arbitrage001 : or better money to be make arbitrage between china and west
[2017-01-05 05:12:35] micmix : $25 to mark, $30 to index
[2017-01-05 05:12:49] rapidtrades : ok book reader
[2017-01-05 05:12:52] immackay : minor dump I think incoming
[2017-01-05 05:12:55] micmix : arb with china is difficult
[2017-01-05 05:13:16] arbitrage001 : buying at finex and selling here also look extremely profitable
[2017-01-05 05:13:19] arbitrage001 : or from bitstamp
[2017-01-05 05:13:37] micmix : fiat transfers too slow
[2017-01-05 05:13:53] arbitrage001 : 1 day fiat transfer normally
[2017-01-05 05:14:03] rapidtrades : that's only europe dude
[2017-01-05 05:14:15] micmix : 3-5 days for me
[2017-01-05 05:14:20] micmix : best case
[2017-01-05 05:14:23] immackay : yeah, my fiat transfers take 2-3 weeks
[2017-01-05 05:14:24] MrRGnome : you pretty much need the amount you want to arb already sitting there so you don't need to wait for transfers
[2017-01-05 05:14:25] immackay : kill me
[2017-01-05 05:14:39] rapidtrades : usd transfers always that 3+ days cos they have to pass NY first
[2017-01-05 05:15:17] arbitrage001 : use a bank that have direct access with interbank exchange
[2017-01-05 05:15:29] Papou : wrekt shorts incoming
[2017-01-05 05:15:33] arbitrage001 : hsbc, citi and etc
[2017-01-05 05:15:44] Gekko : Use swapforex.com
[2017-01-05 05:15:46] rapidtrades : in what country @arbitrage001
[2017-01-05 05:15:52] arbitrage001 : any country
[2017-01-05 05:16:04] arbitrage001 : hsbc is fast but exoensive
[2017-01-05 05:16:05] rapidtrades : in most countries u can't just open a bank account
[2017-01-05 05:16:16] rapidtrades : without residency
[2017-01-05 05:16:31] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: hsbc premier account
[2017-01-05 05:16:32] l3f : rapidtrades: You can lol
[2017-01-05 05:16:41] rapidtrades : l3f: lol no u can't
[2017-01-05 05:16:44] l3f : open using a bank that has branches in that target country
[2017-01-05 05:16:49] arbitrage001 : one primier account -- world wide premier account
[2017-01-05 05:16:54] herecomedatboi : ayeeeeeeeeeee
[2017-01-05 05:17:11] rapidtrades : l3f: lot of times braches are segregated
[2017-01-05 05:17:23] rapidtrades : they act as their own bank basically
[2017-01-05 05:17:32] boomerang : jesus up to 8800yuan almost
[2017-01-05 05:17:50] rapidtrades : branches in different countries i mean
[2017-01-05 05:17:53] l3f : Buy and hold just keeps winning
[2017-01-05 05:17:58] rapidtrades : due to regulatory reasons etc
[2017-01-05 05:18:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 20000 @ 9372.7
[2017-01-05 05:18:37] immackay : oh wow I look away for 10 seconds and it's gone up $5
[2017-01-05 05:18:54] immackay : mark still under 1150 lmao
[2017-01-05 05:19:13] arbitrage001 : dont short if you dont know what you are doing
[2017-01-05 05:19:16] Speran49 : ugh
[2017-01-05 05:19:16] Speran49 : can't believe i got stuck in a short second night in a row
[2017-01-05 05:19:30] l3f : buy and hold wins again
[2017-01-05 05:19:44] arbitrage001 : till chinese new year
[2017-01-05 05:19:47] Speran49 : if we plummet back down and ark doesnt update
[2017-01-05 05:19:57] l3f : arbitrage001: Pump will end by then
[2017-01-05 05:19:57] Speran49 : mark* short could still be okay
[2017-01-05 05:20:23] immackay : pump will be done in the next week I'm guessing
[2017-01-05 05:20:38] Speran49 : what happens if mark get to liquidation price but actual price is much higher?
[2017-01-05 05:20:46] l3f : immackay: It will end when you least expect it
[2017-01-05 05:20:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 96401 @ 1152.23 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-05 05:20:57] Speran49 : any extra consequences or we are just liquidated at that previous price
[2017-01-05 05:21:11] l3f : Speran49: You lose the margin and also take on any losses from the trade
[2017-01-05 05:21:40] l3f : So if you short 10 usd at 1000 and your liquidation is 1200
[2017-01-05 05:21:42] imapotato : they just keep shorting
[2017-01-05 05:21:44] imapotato : fools
[2017-01-05 05:21:57] arbitrage001 : here go insurance fund again
[2017-01-05 05:21:57] Speran49 : imapotato shut the hell up
[2017-01-05 05:21:58] Speran49 : you dont know shit about trading
[2017-01-05 05:21:58] l3f : you lose your margin and 10*(1200-1000)
[2017-01-05 05:22:10] Speran49 : i watched you talk the last few days and you're a complete moron
[2017-01-05 05:22:27] immackay : lmfao
[2017-01-05 05:22:31] l3f : lmao
[2017-01-05 05:22:40] immackay : Speran49: you got stuck in a short buddy
[2017-01-05 05:22:42] l3f : a lotta salt for a bad short
[2017-01-05 05:22:45] immackay : I wouldn't be talking
[2017-01-05 05:22:50] Speran49 : its not a big deal
[2017-01-05 05:22:52] Speran49 : trade with 5%
[2017-01-05 05:22:54] Speran49 : per trade
[2017-01-05 05:22:58] Speran49 : not the end of the world
[2017-01-05 05:23:50] immackay : as far as we can tell you know just as much if not less than imapotato
[2017-01-05 05:24:15] rapidtrades : switch to the dark side and u'll be driving a Lamborghini by the end of the week @Speran49
[2017-01-05 05:24:49] rapidtrades : r/bitcoinmarkets told me this is going to 5k
[2017-01-05 05:25:02] immackay : reddit is always right
[2017-01-05 05:25:13] Speran49 : i was merely playing the fib level bounces
[2017-01-05 05:25:18] Speran49 : this time it broke out