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[2017-01-05 02:36:14] nOgAnOo : not gonna gamble away the money i use to survive
[2017-01-05 02:36:18] immackay : nOgAnOo: do what I did, bring your account back from 0.006
[2017-01-05 02:36:20] nOgAnOo : you need a lot of money to secure a good trade
[2017-01-05 02:36:34] nOgAnOo : immackay, i'm working my way up from 0002 hehe
[2017-01-05 02:36:42] immackay : oh boy
[2017-01-05 02:36:52] rapidtrades : i heard the same story this morning, right before u went busto a second time
[2017-01-05 02:36:56] nOgAnOo : I'm listing all my antiques and garden seeds on ebay now
[2017-01-05 02:37:07] nOgAnOo : selling 55 unique packs of camel cigs for 600 dollars or best offer
[2017-01-05 02:37:10] rapidtrades : 'garden seeds'
[2017-01-05 02:37:23] imapotato : oh god china heard me buying back my longs
[2017-01-05 02:37:24] imapotato : dump incoming
[2017-01-05 02:37:28] nOgAnOo : I don't have a seller account on alphabay or I'd sell my other "garden seeds"
[2017-01-05 02:37:29] immackay : sell your house
[2017-01-05 02:37:31] immackay : sell your wife
[2017-01-05 02:37:33] immackay : sell your kids
[2017-01-05 02:37:37] immackay : buy bitcoin
[2017-01-05 02:37:39] nOgAnOo : Buy Bitcoin
[2017-01-05 02:37:46] immackay : nice
[2017-01-05 02:37:52] nOgAnOo : Great minds think alike
[2017-01-05 02:38:12] imapotato : but you didn't capitalize it the same
[2017-01-05 02:38:17] imapotato : so it's like, completely different
[2017-01-05 02:38:18] imapotato : not alike
[2017-01-05 02:38:28] nOgAnOo : so wow, people who longed are up like 30x now
[2017-01-05 02:38:37] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: have you lost again since u started with $0.4 ?
[2017-01-05 02:38:45] nOgAnOo : yes.. 3 or 4 times
[2017-01-05 02:38:58] nOgAnOo : I am the worst trader ever
[2017-01-05 02:38:58] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: are you above $0.4 atm?
[2017-01-05 02:39:01] nOgAnOo : I don't listen to myself
[2017-01-05 02:39:02] immackay : nOgAnOo: that's why I keep shorting
[2017-01-05 02:39:03] sleger : that game is pretty simple though
[2017-01-05 02:39:07] immackay : can't lose
[2017-01-05 02:39:07] nOgAnOo : no man I'm at 30 cents right now
[2017-01-05 02:39:25] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: when this corrects, go long and leave it alone
[2017-01-05 02:39:28] nOgAnOo : lost 230 dollars yesterday
[2017-01-05 02:39:34] nOgAnOo : or earlier today
[2017-01-05 02:39:40] nOgAnOo : Was crying like a baby
[2017-01-05 02:39:51] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: did you bet all you had on a single trade?
[2017-01-05 02:39:58] nOgAnOo : All of my steemit payout for the week plus more
[2017-01-05 02:40:05] immackay : MikeHunt: you don't?
[2017-01-05 02:40:08] nOgAnOo : no, I got rekt 3 times
[2017-01-05 02:40:11] nOgAnOo : kept throwing money at it
[2017-01-05 02:40:12] nOgAnOo : shorting
[2017-01-05 02:40:18] nOgAnOo : then it hit my liquidation to about the penny
[2017-01-05 02:40:19] nOgAnOo : and went down
[2017-01-05 02:40:24] nOgAnOo : I would have doubled the last trade
[2017-01-05 02:40:27] PARAFFIN : nOgAnOo: whats steemit?
[2017-01-05 02:40:33] rapidtrades : THEN IT WENT UP 100 DOLLARS
[2017-01-05 02:40:35] nOgAnOo : 1 minute after I got liquidated it went down
[2017-01-05 02:40:38] nOgAnOo : yes
[2017-01-05 02:40:40] rapidtrades : oh ffs
[2017-01-05 02:41:00] kekkyojin_irc : use stops, even when you are in a profit, nOgAnOo
[2017-01-05 02:41:02] nOgAnOo : The devil is stophunting me
[2017-01-05 02:41:05] nOgAnOo : we figured out
[2017-01-05 02:41:11] aethlios : premium half now, calmed down.
[2017-01-05 02:41:16] nOgAnOo : and he's rich and will go to great lengths to rek me
[2017-01-05 02:41:22] happy : wow, nobody is buying here?
[2017-01-05 02:41:25] imapotato : who the heck shorts btc
[2017-01-05 02:41:29] muirtastic : Happy: Sometime works to short right before the funding, but sometimes not. Other people have the same idea, so it just depends.
[2017-01-05 02:41:31] immackay : imapotato: me
[2017-01-05 02:41:38] imapotato : but why
[2017-01-05 02:41:38] nOgAnOo : happy, I traded here for 4 hours the other day and there were about 0 buys
[2017-01-05 02:41:46] nOgAnOo : market makers do not take orders
[2017-01-05 02:41:47] nOgAnOo : at all...
[2017-01-05 02:41:56] imapotato : they're market makers
[2017-01-05 02:41:59] imapotato : not market takers
[2017-01-05 02:42:03] nOgAnOo : scalping here without a bot is impossible
[2017-01-05 02:42:03] happy : But funding is too high
[2017-01-05 02:42:04] immackay : imapotato: cause I'm testing a method to find the drops
[2017-01-05 02:42:13] muirtastic : I've been shorting too and getting rekt pretty good over the last couple of weeks.
[2017-01-05 02:42:23] muirtastic : Just thought this rally would top out a long time ago
[2017-01-05 02:42:24] nOgAnOo : But either way I'm infinitely in profit because I met you guys
[2017-01-05 02:42:27] nOgAnOo : My only friends..
[2017-01-05 02:42:28] immackay : imapotato: shorted 4 times the last day, profited every time
[2017-01-05 02:42:32] rapidtrades : 1.3% gain in Yuan yday, highest past few years prolly
[2017-01-05 02:42:43] imapotato : but the dips are infrequent and weak
[2017-01-05 02:42:54] nOgAnOo : yes
[2017-01-05 02:43:01] immackay : imapotato: well then how did I do it? c:
[2017-01-05 02:43:08] imapotato : are you magician
[2017-01-05 02:43:13] imapotato : did you hacked bitmex
[2017-01-05 02:43:14] nOgAnOo : exactly
[2017-01-05 02:43:22] nOgAnOo : you must have caught the only 4 corrections
[2017-01-05 02:43:36] nOgAnOo : congrats
[2017-01-05 02:43:37] kekkyojin_irc : yuan is boring right now
[2017-01-05 02:43:40] rapidtrades : IT'S FUNNY HOW NOONE TALKS ABOUT YUAN WHEN ITS UP
[2017-01-05 02:43:47] imapotato : Back in the day, bitmex liquidations were based on the most recent trade price, not a calculated mark price
[2017-01-05 02:43:50] immackay : https://i.sli.mg/Gs2tRG.png
[2017-01-05 02:43:54] rapidtrades : funny as in huh not funny as in haha
[2017-01-05 02:43:57] immackay : top green line was my short from last night
[2017-01-05 02:43:57] imapotato : So you could buy up an entire thin order book to force liquidations
[2017-01-05 02:44:02] nOgAnOo : But there is something more important than Bitcoin guys
[2017-01-05 02:44:09] imapotato : Then place a sell really really high and they'd be forced to buy it
[2017-01-05 02:44:09] nOgAnOo : You can't take Bitcoin to heaven with you
[2017-01-05 02:44:16] nOgAnOo : All you can take is your eternal salvation
[2017-01-05 02:44:20] nOgAnOo : Through Jesus Christ
[2017-01-05 02:44:33] Milkman : xmr could have a big pump soon.
[2017-01-05 02:44:34] imapotato : But you kinda can take bitcoins with you to heaven
[2017-01-05 02:44:36] nOgAnOo : He died on the cross to save us from our sins
[2017-01-05 02:44:38] imapotato : Just remember the private keys
[2017-01-05 02:44:39] rapidtrades : PBOC sets yuan reference rate for today at 6.9307 (vs. yesterday at 6.9526)
[2017-01-05 02:44:55] nOgAnOo : All of us are sinners.. greedy, liars, hypocrites, gluttons, sexually immoral perverts
[2017-01-05 02:44:57] rapidtrades : offshore already well ahead of the bank at 6.89
[2017-01-05 02:45:01] nOgAnOo : We all need Jesus
[2017-01-05 02:45:04] imapotato : hmmm....
[2017-01-05 02:45:10] imapotato : that has me thinking
[2017-01-05 02:45:39] imapotato : There should be a block chain in the afterlife.
[2017-01-05 02:45:49] imapotato : And we should be able to do proof-of-burn of bitcoins in order to get afterlifecoins
[2017-01-05 02:46:15] imapotato : afterlife blockchain would exist only in the afterlife, but you could redeem coins on it that were burned on the bitcoin blockchain
[2017-01-05 02:46:18] imapotato : am I on to something?
[2017-01-05 02:46:26] MikeHunt : immackay: no i dont, i hedge
[2017-01-05 02:46:34] immackay : MikeHunt: it was joke
[2017-01-05 02:46:40] MikeHunt : immackay: ;)
[2017-01-05 02:46:54] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: looks like china is getting venuezuela-ed
[2017-01-05 02:47:09] imapotato : but china is bigger than venezuela
[2017-01-05 02:47:20] immackay : yeah, their government isn't nearly as retarded
[2017-01-05 02:47:24] immackay : oh what
[2017-01-05 02:47:24] MikeHunt : imapotato: which will magnify the currency crisis
[2017-01-05 02:47:45] immackay : who keeps fucking with replacement words
[2017-01-05 02:47:56] imapotato : MikeHunt: but will it blend in a BlendTec blender
[2017-01-05 02:48:12] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: looks like u have no idea what ur talking aboot mate
[2017-01-05 02:48:20] MikeHunt : imapotato: china may look like that afterwards
[2017-01-05 02:48:32] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: what part did you disagree with?
[2017-01-05 02:48:52] happy : looks like it will go to 1130 before next ATH
[2017-01-05 02:49:35] arbitrage001 : oh noes
[2017-01-05 02:49:38] arbitrage001 : buy the dip
[2017-01-05 02:49:45] immackay : lole
[2017-01-05 02:50:25] rapidtrades : china at 120 premium stilll
[2017-01-05 02:50:33] rapidtrades : do we meet them higher or lower
[2017-01-05 02:50:42] arbitrage001 : hence buying the dip will still work
[2017-01-05 02:50:56] arbitrage001 : 120 premium is not small gap
[2017-01-05 02:51:06] imapotato : rapidtrades: probably higher
[2017-01-05 02:51:15] imapotato : I don't think China is ready to go down to meet anything yet.
[2017-01-05 02:51:18] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: you said i have no idea what im talking about, you gonna respond as to why or juut leave that hanging?
[2017-01-05 02:51:29] rapidtrades : we could close it on way down too, has happened before @arbitrage001
[2017-01-05 02:52:45] nOgAnOo : if you guys want to help me work my way up
[2017-01-05 02:52:51] nOgAnOo : i am the 30 contracts in the swap
[2017-01-05 02:53:08] rapidtrades : lol he's shorting again
[2017-01-05 02:53:11] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: you need learn from your failures, until you do, you'll keep selling ur stuff of and funding what is essentially a gambling habit
[2017-01-05 02:53:13] nOgAnOo : i'm scalping
[2017-01-05 02:53:25] nOgAnOo : with this much of a premium I'll start with a short
[2017-01-05 02:53:41] arbitrage001 : premium exists for a reason
[2017-01-05 02:53:44] arbitrage001 : long are not stupid
[2017-01-05 02:53:49] imapotato : me too thanks
[2017-01-05 02:53:56] rapidtrades : yes, yes they are @arbitrage001
[2017-01-05 02:54:14] rapidtrades : ppl longing at 1132 are pretty dumb
[2017-01-05 02:54:28] nOgAnOo : We'll see about that when the price drops back to 800-1000 range
[2017-01-05 02:54:31] nOgAnOo : if the longs are stupid or not
[2017-01-05 02:54:50] rapidtrades : going against $100 move is stupid too
[2017-01-05 02:55:03] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: and if it doesnt?
[2017-01-05 02:55:08] rapidtrades : there are no good trades atm...except maybe collecting some premiums
[2017-01-05 02:55:14] aethlios : june contract will be interesting
[2017-01-05 02:55:16] rms : my hypothesis is that the neutral news stories published in chinese news today basically legalized bitcoin in china in a way that retail investors noticed
[2017-01-05 02:55:23] rapidtrades : aethlios: when is it out
[2017-01-05 02:55:31] rapidtrades : rms: ur wrong
[2017-01-05 02:55:56] rms : ;)
[2017-01-05 02:56:02] aethlios : 15th of march, long way.
[2017-01-05 02:56:03] nOgAnOo : can you fill my order please, rapidtrades
[2017-01-05 02:56:03] MikeHunt : rms: bitcoin is in the governments interest
[2017-01-05 02:56:14] imapotato : MikeHunt: wat
[2017-01-05 02:56:15] nOgAnOo : gonna try to turn this 35k sats into 10,000 dollars
[2017-01-05 02:56:22] rms : the local government officials selling electricity to the bitcoin miners have bitcoins at least
[2017-01-05 02:56:31] nOgAnOo : nevermind, filled already
[2017-01-05 02:56:36] MikeHunt : imapotato: lookup sesame credit
[2017-01-05 02:56:47] rms : the advisory board for huobi and okc has tsinghua university people, all the professors there are usually party members...
[2017-01-05 02:57:55] MikeHunt : rms: i expect china to absorb bitcoin or at least attempt to
[2017-01-05 02:58:18] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-04/bitcoin-explodes-higher-chinese-money-market-liquidity-collapses
[2017-01-05 02:59:27] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: pboc is trying to kill yuan short traders
[2017-01-05 02:59:28] MikeHunt : i think the PRC thinks it can take over bitcoin by linking with sesame credit so they can control the populace, problem is that equation results in destruction of the PRC
[2017-01-05 02:59:58] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: central banks don't care about traders ppl
[2017-01-05 03:00:12] arbitrage001 : artificially intervene the market is never good long term
[2017-01-05 03:00:16] rapidtrades : they're pre-empting a trump presidency
[2017-01-05 03:00:19] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: +1
[2017-01-05 03:00:35] imapotato : this is really boring considering the USD ATH is like $30 away.
[2017-01-05 03:00:36] MikeHunt : BoE in UK is working on a future digital currency
[2017-01-05 03:00:58] MikeHunt : imapotato: may go down to 8450 to draw em up
[2017-01-05 03:01:11] rapidtrades : if they keep letting the yuan weaken they will get slapped with a tariff
[2017-01-05 03:01:28] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: the PRC cant do anything, whats going to happen is already set in motion
[2017-01-05 03:02:05] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: take a look at the usd/cnh chart and tell me that the pboc 'cant do anything'
[2017-01-05 03:02:19] imapotato : Starting to look like the West and China will meet each other half way in returning to a normal spread.
[2017-01-05 03:02:36] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: look at venuezuela, PBOC can set any number they like, thats the "official value"
[2017-01-05 03:02:36] imapotato : Maybe one up $25, the other down $25 to bring the gap from $120 to $70
[2017-01-05 03:02:38] shiroe : teamnosleep
[2017-01-05 03:02:48] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: IT'S THE OFFSHORE RATE MIKE
[2017-01-05 03:03:07] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: ie: independent of corrupt gov
[2017-01-05 03:03:36] imapotato : DAE government is god and the market doesn't know how to price things
[2017-01-05 03:03:52] MikeHunt : imapotato: DAE?
[2017-01-05 03:04:09] imapotato : "dogs are elephants"
[2017-01-05 03:04:13] imapotato : or wait, no, that's a different context
[2017-01-05 03:04:16] imapotato : "does anyone else"
[2017-01-05 03:04:46] imapotato : It's a lame acronym. I was using it ironically, which is also lame.
[2017-01-05 03:04:47] imapotato : I'm lame.
[2017-01-05 03:05:10] imapotato : But finex is above 1140 so who cares
[2017-01-05 03:05:33] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 101080 @ 9137.0 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-05 03:05:39] rapidtrades : finex is buying real coins with fake tokens
[2017-01-05 03:05:57] MikeHunt : so china gov wants to take over bitcoin to maintain control but also wants to keep appreciating to maintain its currency, it cant do both
[2017-01-05 03:05:59] imapotato : who the hell still shorts btc
[2017-01-05 03:06:05] imapotato : with 101k contracts, no less
[2017-01-05 03:06:20] MikeHunt : imapotato: that apogoo guy?
[2017-01-05 03:06:21] arbitrage001 : rapidtrades: check the lending rate on finex
[2017-01-05 03:06:39] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: i don't login to that shithole anymore
[2017-01-05 03:06:42] imapotato : holy crap
[2017-01-05 03:06:46] imapotato : china is erect
[2017-01-05 03:06:53] nOgAnOo : erekt
[2017-01-05 03:06:53] MikeHunt : bitfinex is the biggest liability in this bubble
[2017-01-05 03:07:05] MikeHunt : jsut like i said it would
[2017-01-05 03:07:07] nOgAnOo : Yeah, finex should have been shut down
[2017-01-05 03:07:13] nOgAnOo : drunken scammers
[2017-01-05 03:07:13] MikeHunt : notches down to find entrance to next level
[2017-01-05 03:07:15] arbitrage001 : MikeHunt: what do you mean
[2017-01-05 03:07:20] imapotato : finex already lost 100k coins, I have no idea why anyone trades there
[2017-01-05 03:07:41] rapidtrades : imapotato: they're using their fake tokens are margin
[2017-01-05 03:07:49] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: which part of comment u referring to?
[2017-01-05 03:07:58] imapotato : And their software is a bootleg of some defunct business that was written by a minor
[2017-01-05 03:08:02] imapotato : (minor, not miner)
[2017-01-05 03:08:04] arbitrage001 : liability is this bubble?
[2017-01-05 03:08:10] MikeHunt : imapotato: they did bail ppl out iirc so they maintained market share and they didnt run with goins like gox owners
[2017-01-05 03:08:18] muirtastic : imapotato: I don't get it either. They will never get another penny of mine
[2017-01-05 03:08:32] rapidtrades : they most certianly did not 'bail out' anyone
[2017-01-05 03:08:36] imapotato : MikeHunt: They gave people equity in their business, which was worth less than the coins they lost.
[2017-01-05 03:08:39] Milkman : bitfinex attempt #3
[2017-01-05 03:08:41] imapotato : not a bail out
[2017-01-05 03:08:41] nOgAnOo : 20 dollar premium
[2017-01-05 03:08:43] rapidtrades : in fact they bailed me in while i held 95% USD
[2017-01-05 03:08:58] imapotato : speak of the devil, finex knocking on 1150 again
[2017-01-05 03:09:17] sleger : so stamp is the one holding the index hostage
[2017-01-05 03:09:19] arbitrage001 : china already make btc all time high?
[2017-01-05 03:09:25] Milkman : yup
[2017-01-05 03:09:25] MikeHunt : imapotato: externalizing blame and pacifying the masses delays issues
[2017-01-05 03:09:44] imapotato : MikeHunt: Yeah, finex probably made the best choice after the hack
[2017-01-05 03:09:50] imapotato : whoop dee doo
[2017-01-05 03:09:54] imapotato : They were still hacked for 100k+ coins
[2017-01-05 03:10:09] MikeHunt : imapotato: but its a symptom of indemic inefficiency
[2017-01-05 03:10:36] MikeHunt : sleger: bitstunk does anal quizs on high volume clients hence its becoming more unpopular
[2017-01-05 03:10:47] imapotato : >bitstunk does anal
[2017-01-05 03:10:48] imapotato : hehe
[2017-01-05 03:11:00] MikeHunt : imapotato: look up the questionaire, its why i left
[2017-01-05 03:11:28] MikeHunt : imapotato: also their bank is linked to Unicredito, when asked about solvency issues, they refuse to comment
[2017-01-05 03:11:45] MikeHunt : so in a way bitstamp is also a liability if unicredito fails
[2017-01-05 03:12:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 17500 @ 1135.84
[2017-01-05 03:12:10] MikeHunt : potential liability*
[2017-01-05 03:12:20] arbitrage001 : i think bitstamp is faking volume
[2017-01-05 03:12:22] imapotato : the bitmex team should open a spot exchange alongside the derivatives
[2017-01-05 03:12:31] imapotato : except then they have to deal with fiat...
[2017-01-05 03:12:42] MikeHunt : imapotato: which means banks and reg
[2017-01-05 03:12:45] imapotato : yeah
[2017-01-05 03:12:54] rms : bitfinex not ready to cross but okc just keeps going and going...
[2017-01-05 03:12:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50000 @ 1137.20 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-05 03:13:12] imapotato : WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE STILL SHORT
[2017-01-05 03:13:28] imapotato : china and stamp both pumping up, and finex is now flaccid
[2017-01-05 03:13:29] imapotato : :|
[2017-01-05 03:13:29] Milkman : cause bitfinex and stamp cant go up
[2017-01-05 03:13:52] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: bitstump's volume makes bitcoinwisdom graph look like skeletor when using smaller time intervals
[2017-01-05 03:14:59] imapotato : Think China is going to do ATH in the next few minutes?
[2017-01-05 03:15:00] imapotato : close
[2017-01-05 03:15:23] rms : what's the ATH you are thinking of?
[2017-01-05 03:15:28] imapotato : maybe that would be enough to pull finex through 1150
[2017-01-05 03:15:30] trejderjack : yes sir
[2017-01-05 03:15:44] imapotato : china ATH is about 8815
[2017-01-05 03:15:52] imapotato : give or take a few CNY
[2017-01-05 03:16:02] imapotato : from about 2 hours ago
[2017-01-05 03:16:57] Milkman : 8725
[2017-01-05 03:17:02] olimano1 : whats cross leverage?
[2017-01-05 03:17:22] imapotato : olimano1: It uses your entire balance as collateral
[2017-01-05 03:17:22] Milkman : means your whole available balance is used to protect your position before you get margin called
[2017-01-05 03:17:34] Milkman : aka you could lose everything you put on this site
[2017-01-05 03:17:50] Milkman : bitfinex triple top dump
[2017-01-05 03:17:51] arbitrage001 : buy the dip!
[2017-01-05 03:17:57] Milkman : maybe next time we'll do it
[2017-01-05 03:18:10] imapotato : finex is lame
[2017-01-05 03:18:27] arbitrage001 : i still buy and sell from finex
[2017-01-05 03:18:30] rapidtrades : lame as balls lame
[2017-01-05 03:18:39] aethlios : premium going down.
[2017-01-05 03:18:41] arbitrage001 : where else youcan buy cheap btc?
[2017-01-05 03:19:44] Milkman : btce
[2017-01-05 03:19:57] arbitrage001 : not easy to get money into btce
[2017-01-05 03:20:03] MikeHunt : looking at Alexa Bitfinex is in decline
[2017-01-05 03:20:11] MikeHunt : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitfinex.com
[2017-01-05 03:20:19] arbitrage001 : and there isnt really that much liquidity at btce
[2017-01-05 03:20:37] Milkman : seems people are sending their money to other places than bitfinex
[2017-01-05 03:20:45] arbitrage001 : such as?
[2017-01-05 03:21:01] Milkman : gdax, gemini
[2017-01-05 03:21:12] Milkman : really all exchanges suck for liquidity
[2017-01-05 03:21:24] Milkman : otherwise they'd keep up with china
[2017-01-05 03:21:43] MikeHunt : Milkman: bitstump seems to be taking it
[2017-01-05 03:21:52] MikeHunt : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitstamp.net
[2017-01-05 03:22:38] MikeHunt : btc-e is growing http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/btc-e.com
[2017-01-05 03:23:42] rapidtrades : gooo btce
[2017-01-05 03:24:23] johndoe : http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitmex.com
[2017-01-05 03:24:27] johndoe : bitmex has a nice uptrend
[2017-01-05 03:24:29] MikeHunt : my issue with btce is it seems a bit shaddy
[2017-01-05 03:24:32] johndoe : but still behind
[2017-01-05 03:24:43] MikeHunt : johndoe: bitmex isnt really comparable as no fiat
[2017-01-05 03:24:55] arbitrage001 : MikeHunt: yet they never steal money from customers before
[2017-01-05 03:25:01] johndoe : i know, i just mean the uptrend
[2017-01-05 03:25:04] rapidtrades : United States 14% lol
[2017-01-05 03:25:16] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: if something did go wrong, there's very little trace left
[2017-01-05 03:25:26] MikeHunt : arbitrage001: i like to know whoes handling my stuff
[2017-01-05 03:25:58] elmorte : Judging by that alexa link, the default language here should be Japanese instead of Chinese
[2017-01-05 03:26:15] rapidtrades : those are the quoine losers
[2017-01-05 03:26:43] rapidtrades : we pretend that the partnership never happened
[2017-01-05 03:27:09] rapidtrades : number will prolly tank after they seperated
[2017-01-05 03:27:31] elmorte : Some 1984 shit. Still listed under XBJ though
[2017-01-05 03:28:03] rapidtrades : that's only daily...is that 100% quoine or 50%
[2017-01-05 03:28:18] rapidtrades : thye used to have the whole range weekly-3m
[2017-01-05 03:28:32] elmorte : yeah...think that's the only daily left
[2017-01-05 03:28:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 360 @ 1140.40
[2017-01-05 03:29:25] rapidtrades : aethlios: up or down?
[2017-01-05 03:30:26] aethlios : we approach ATH in usd, china broke it, but such resistance usually wants 3 attempts to break.
[2017-01-05 03:30:28] elmorte : What do the boy bands say?
[2017-01-05 03:31:01] aethlios : maybe a fakeout above ATH in usd and dump. but vurrency issues from china important, can't say.
[2017-01-05 03:31:29] elmorte : Thru all this, CNH actually got stronger
[2017-01-05 03:31:39] elmorte : fathom me that rapid!
[2017-01-05 03:31:39] l3f : elmorte: yes but FOMO
[2017-01-05 03:31:42] rapidtrades : 1.3 stronger actually
[2017-01-05 03:31:47] rapidtrades : %
[2017-01-05 03:32:02] l3f : aethlios: do you think ATH will break in USD?
[2017-01-05 03:32:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1141.70
[2017-01-05 03:32:10] rapidtrades : see the ZH link i posted above @elmorte
[2017-01-05 03:32:23] elmorte : let me check
[2017-01-05 03:32:43] aethlios : l3f: very rare such resistance to break at once. a touch and dump or a fake out 50 usd and dump.
[2017-01-05 03:33:09] elmorte : @Bitmex_Sam: you da man
[2017-01-05 03:33:11] l3f : China is constantly pumping on Chinese exchanges and offloading the dump to bitstamp and finex
[2017-01-05 03:33:19] elmorte : arbitrage001: he listened :)
[2017-01-05 03:33:45] arbitrage001 : elmorte: who?
[2017-01-05 03:33:58] elmorte : Sam re: chat archive
[2017-01-05 03:34:16] l3f : HAHA funding rate pegged to the max
[2017-01-05 03:34:25] l3f : for the next 16 hours
[2017-01-05 03:34:32] l3f : Pedal to the metal
[2017-01-05 03:34:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 136300 @ 1142.84 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-05 03:34:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 35 @ 1143.14
[2017-01-05 03:34:37] BitMEX_Sam : Ah yes, chat archive is in, as is hiding the sidebar
[2017-01-05 03:34:43] BitMEX_Sam : Click the options gear on the sidebar to hide it
[2017-01-05 03:35:04] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: damn son, easy on the adderall
[2017-01-05 03:35:11] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: nice feature
[2017-01-05 03:35:15] BitMEX_Sam : Lots more coming
[2017-01-05 03:35:24] elmorte : :)
[2017-01-05 03:35:24] BitMEX_Sam : My wife's out of town. Working all week
[2017-01-05 03:35:36] elmorte : oh that's awesome
[2017-01-05 03:35:44] aethlios : finex rates 0.30%, eryone long on margin
[2017-01-05 03:35:46] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: how much of the swap fund is left
[2017-01-05 03:35:58] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: The alert when an order is executed say "bought" even when you short/sell
[2017-01-05 03:36:02] aethlios : such rates haven't seen since 2013 pump
[2017-01-05 03:36:06] BitMEX_Sam : iirc ~60 XBT @rapidtrades
[2017-01-05 03:36:08] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks Rado2 will address
[2017-01-05 03:36:30] rapidtrades : hmm not bad i guess
[2017-01-05 03:36:46] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: any discussion on cap remove being discussed?
[2017-01-05 03:36:48] l3f : aethlios: I told ya, you're missing the best part of the pump
[2017-01-05 03:36:58] BitMEX_Sam : We're discussing it, but we don't want to shock or change the market
[2017-01-05 03:37:02] l3f : the run up will be nothing compared to what's to come
[2017-01-05 03:37:09] BitMEX_Sam : We got the message loud & clear the last time we made changes
[2017-01-05 03:37:10] l3f : the later you enter the more dangerous it is
[2017-01-05 03:37:12] Speran49 : any chance of this coming back down a bit?
[2017-01-05 03:37:12] arbitrage001 : BitMEX_Sam: the market is already shocked
[2017-01-05 03:37:25] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for hiding the sidebar feature :-)
[2017-01-05 03:37:44] aethlios : we need more info what happens in china money markets
[2017-01-05 03:37:48] l3f : Rado2: Prevents panic ells
[2017-01-05 03:37:52] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: what's the resolution cutoff for switching to the mobile version? Seems it could be lower now with the hidden sidebar...
[2017-01-05 03:37:59] l3f : aethlios: I can tell you Chinese social media is hungry for more
[2017-01-05 03:38:15] Rado2 : l3f: I requested it since when you are running a bot you don't need manual entries
[2017-01-05 03:38:17] MikeHunt : aethlios: all you need to know is bitcoin will last longer than the PRC
[2017-01-05 03:40:09] l3f : The only danger is the PRC dumps before we do
[2017-01-05 03:40:20] l3f : PBoC just comes out and fucks our shit
[2017-01-05 03:40:49] Speran49 : a dump right now would be nice
[2017-01-05 03:40:51] rapidtrades : Rado2: how's the bot doing so far?
[2017-01-05 03:40:56] aethlios : PBOC i guess intervened today in usdcnh
[2017-01-05 03:41:10] MikeHunt : l3f: they wont dump, the indicator will be the PRC (regime not peoples) health
[2017-01-05 03:41:24] Rado2 : rapidtrades: still at profit, but a few errors that prevent me to have way bigger profits today
[2017-01-05 03:41:26] Rado2 : need to address them
[2017-01-05 03:41:37] MikeHunt : l3f: if they try to ban it, there will only be minor correction imo, its still bull market and chinese love btc
[2017-01-05 03:41:52] rapidtrades : Rado2: cool
[2017-01-05 03:41:53] l3f : MikeHunt: hehhe
[2017-01-05 03:42:05] rapidtrades : real test will be on the way down imo
[2017-01-05 03:42:07] l3f : I hope BTCChina and OkCoin are funding the right officials with their massive gains
[2017-01-05 03:42:19] l3f : Otherwise they'll get their balls stepped on
[2017-01-05 03:42:19] rapidtrades : to see how much of the profits it will lose during crash
[2017-01-05 03:42:22] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: black swan means back to the mean, thats all
[2017-01-05 03:42:25] imapotato : new ath huobi
[2017-01-05 03:42:27] Rado2 : rapidtrades: agreed
[2017-01-05 03:42:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 20000 @ 9251.2
[2017-01-05 03:42:42] imapotato : people still shorting btc XD
[2017-01-05 03:42:59] MikeHunt : imapotato: you can short if you time the drops correctly
[2017-01-05 03:43:05] MikeHunt : imapotato: it has a certain pattern
[2017-01-05 03:45:04] mariomarco : MikeHunt: when do you see the next one
[2017-01-05 03:45:25] Speran49 : could be soon
[2017-01-05 03:45:29] Speran49 : huge resistnce at this lvl
[2017-01-05 03:45:45] MikeHunt : mariomarco: its going up to next level soon
[2017-01-05 03:45:52] Speran49 : whaaa
[2017-01-05 03:46:00] mariomarco : next level?
[2017-01-05 03:46:08] MikeHunt : each level has a few stages
[2017-01-05 03:46:08] mariomarco : which level is "the next level"
[2017-01-05 03:46:14] Speran49 : ugh i neeed a drop to 1150 to get out of my short
[2017-01-05 03:46:20] immackay : imapotato: people not knowing how to short correctly
[2017-01-05 03:46:21] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i dont know
[2017-01-05 03:46:34] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i know the pattern i dont know the exact points of where it will land
[2017-01-05 03:46:47] mariomarco : MikeHunt: you got some picture?
[2017-01-05 03:46:52] MikeHunt : hint; btc goes up like this does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-e0b_Y4sJY&t=80s
[2017-01-05 03:46:55] mariomarco : link, id like to see your view of things
[2017-01-05 03:47:00] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i dont wanna give too much away or it could be ruined
[2017-01-05 03:47:05] MikeHunt : :/
[2017-01-05 03:47:16] mariomarco : fair enough
[2017-01-05 03:47:26] immackay : lol
[2017-01-05 03:47:41] MikeHunt : what i will say is go long and keep an eye on the news for black swans and ull be ok
[2017-01-05 03:48:39] MikeHunt : mariomarco: oops wrong time, i meant it goes up like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-e0b_Y4sJY&t=100s
[2017-01-05 03:48:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5850 @ 1146.35
[2017-01-05 03:48:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 46535 @ 1145.54
[2017-01-05 03:48:44] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 62772 @ 1145.46 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-05 03:49:23] rapidtrades : lolz :(
[2017-01-05 03:50:27] arbitrage001 : here go insurance fund
[2017-01-05 03:51:35] Speran49 : what i REKT?
[2017-01-05 03:51:50] MikeHunt : imo when this drops the insurance fund will be x.x already
[2017-01-05 03:52:14] Speran49 : what is*
[2017-01-05 03:52:19] Speran49 : is it someones bot?
[2017-01-05 03:52:34] MikeHunt : Speran49: basically a chat grim reaper bot who announces his last victim
[2017-01-05 03:52:38] MrRGnome : MikeHunt: yeah ADL is going to be rough on the drop
[2017-01-05 03:52:44] rapidtrades : IT's a guy with a penchant for reverge...whatever you do don't get on his bad side
[2017-01-05 03:53:14] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: i may just hold fiat elsewhere if it does
[2017-01-05 03:53:16] rapidtrades : REKT: I <3 U
[2017-01-05 03:53:20] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: 1x may not even be safe
[2017-01-05 03:53:39] Speran49 : ADL?
[2017-01-05 03:54:09] rapidtrades : all organic salt, no preservatives
[2017-01-05 03:54:39] MrRGnome : Speran49: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2017-01-05 03:55:22] rapidtrades : buy ADL now for $4.33 through my affiliate link for 25% discount https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/cooking/adl/rapid
[2017-01-05 03:55:24] Speran49 : seems fair enough
[2017-01-05 03:56:11] MrRGnome : Speran49: It's actually not fair at all, but it's a necessary evil
[2017-01-05 03:56:42] Speran49 : well ilike the better trades vs worse ones
[2017-01-05 03:57:19] rapidtrades : 3 mins till payday bitches
[2017-01-05 03:57:28] rapidtrades : give daddy the dough
[2017-01-05 03:57:42] Speran49 : do you get paid if you're short?
[2017-01-05 03:57:48] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-01-05 03:57:50] immackay : rapidtrades: incoming jump you think?
[2017-01-05 03:57:57] rapidtrades : for sure
[2017-01-05 03:58:00] MrRGnome : No he's talking the funding
[2017-01-05 03:58:05] immackay : ah
[2017-01-05 03:58:07] immackay : right
[2017-01-05 03:58:36] MrRGnome : I'm kind of hoping they cut the leverage and up the funding cap.
[2017-01-05 03:59:32] elmorte : ooh ETH you sneaky lil minx...
[2017-01-05 03:59:46] immackay : elmorte: what's eth up to
[2017-01-05 03:59:51] rapidtrades : DO IT, DO IT NAO
[2017-01-05 04:00:00] elmorte : immackay: $11+
[2017-01-05 04:00:04] aethlios : premiums calming down
[2017-01-05 04:00:09] MrRGnome : lol
[2017-01-05 04:00:13] MrRGnome : the post funding bump
[2017-01-05 04:00:15] elmorte : you'd still be better off if you left your money in BTC, but it's alright
[2017-01-05 04:00:31] elmorte : for those of us who keep some for rainy day
[2017-01-05 04:01:41] elmorte : XMR following BTC as well...
[2017-01-05 04:01:56] immackay : I still regret not buying xmr a week or so ago
[2017-01-05 04:02:02] immackay : should probably get some
[2017-01-05 04:02:50] elmorte : rapidtrades: good article, not sure if I get it though...shouldn't higher deposit rates = higher liquidity?
[2017-01-05 04:03:07] elmorte : for the banks
[2017-01-05 04:03:13] rapidtrades : no
[2017-01-05 04:03:50] rapidtrades : the rates are high because they drained liquidty
[2017-01-05 04:04:14] elmorte : oh, the rates of return?
[2017-01-05 04:04:36] rapidtrades : the overnight lending rates rates
[2017-01-05 04:04:39] elmorte : yeah, that makes more sense :)
[2017-01-05 04:04:46] elmorte : cheers big ears
[2017-01-05 04:06:29] rapidtrades : back to $20 premium, crazy shit
[2017-01-05 04:07:17] immackay : bitmex going up, mark going down
[2017-01-05 04:07:18] immackay : ok
[2017-01-05 04:07:31] XXXX : $20 premium is still low considering the cap on lending
[2017-01-05 04:07:43] XXXX : lending rates
[2017-01-05 04:08:24] elmorte : China at $100 premium...
[2017-01-05 04:08:44] elmorte : yet, our March futures only at $49
[2017-01-05 04:09:01] happy : amazing. huobi goes 8600-8690, and at the same time, bitmex from 1120-1166
[2017-01-05 04:09:02] rms : by march the premium will be arb'd away
[2017-01-05 04:09:35] happy : Huobi up 1%, Bitmex up 4%
[2017-01-05 04:09:52] cookielito : finex booming
[2017-01-05 04:09:59] elmorte : rms: in spot?
[2017-01-05 04:10:22] rms : yeah, the premium between usa and china erodes in times of stability
[2017-01-05 04:10:47] happy : got it, it was because of funding
[2017-01-05 04:10:49] rms : like you can actually safely do the arbitrage if you aren't a chinese citizen and live in china or something, it's just a hassle
[2017-01-05 04:11:05] rms : and right now you make more money just buying bitcoin so know one bothers to arbitrage
[2017-01-05 04:11:51] elmorte : True, but all things equal, China will always have a slight premium
[2017-01-05 04:12:00] elmorte : $20 seems to be the norm
[2017-01-05 04:12:16] arbitrage001 : elmorte: china have discount in bear market before
[2017-01-05 04:12:24] imapotato : oh shit i missed finex 1150
[2017-01-05 04:12:26] imapotato : woop woop here we go
[2017-01-05 04:12:32] elmorte : but temporarily only
[2017-01-05 04:12:47] elmorte : when the BTC is moving sideways, China will tend towards a premium
[2017-01-05 04:13:14] l3f : Hey bitmex, does BFX have more volume than stamp now? Will BFX be moved back into the index?
[2017-01-05 04:13:18] l3f : Stamp prices are btc-e bad now
[2017-01-05 04:14:34] MikeHunt : l3f: stamp does anal quiz
[2017-01-05 04:14:41] l3f : Volume 24h on bfx is 60k, stamp only has 210k
[2017-01-05 04:14:47] l3f : 21k*
[2017-01-05 04:14:48] l3f : https://bitcoincharts.com/markets/bitstampUSD_trades.html
[2017-01-05 04:14:49] MikeHunt : l3f: fees are lower as well iirc
[2017-01-05 04:14:52] l3f : https://www.bfxdata.com/
[2017-01-05 04:14:54] immackay : l3f: yeah the index price has been weird as for the last week or two
[2017-01-05 04:15:12] l3f : It's because bitstamp is the new btc-e
[2017-01-05 04:15:27] arbitrage001 : price distortion happen all over the world
[2017-01-05 04:15:37] arbitrage001 : for good reason
[2017-01-05 04:15:40] elmorte : arbitrage001: although this chart doesn;t support my statement very much: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/mNb9eaNM/
[2017-01-05 04:15:48] arbitrage001 : china going to blow up
[2017-01-05 04:15:51] elmorte : only for the last few months
[2017-01-05 04:16:08] l3f : Even Kraken doesn't have bitstamp prices
[2017-01-05 04:16:26] MikeHunt : should be pumping within hr
[2017-01-05 04:16:32] rapidtrades : kraken at 1032 right now
[2017-01-05 04:16:46] l3f : rapidtrades: For euros
[2017-01-05 04:16:57] rapidtrades : yes ofc
[2017-01-05 04:17:00] rapidtrades : that's the only liquid pair
[2017-01-05 04:17:19] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: is that usd or eur?
[2017-01-05 04:17:34] l3f : 1,142.2 is kraken btc/usd