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[2017-01-04 21:30:28] rapidtrades : ah yes
[2017-01-04 21:30:50] MrRGnome : sleger: If you isolate margin it will come out of your unisolated balance before the insurance fund or ADL if I understand correctly.
[2017-01-04 21:31:01] lockhedge : you don't
[2017-01-04 21:31:12] MrRGnome : You see people complaining about that here pretty often, says I was liquidated at price x bu the order was at price y
[2017-01-04 21:31:27] lockhedge : but you were right about the price
[2017-01-04 21:31:42] rapidtrades : but now its different cos premium so high
[2017-01-04 21:31:44] sleger : MrRGnome: if you had been nice in the past i would maybe explained, but you were always so arrogant pretending you understood everything so ... good luck
[2017-01-04 21:31:54] rapidtrades : it pays to be liquidated rn
[2017-01-04 21:32:20] rapidtrades : if short ofc
[2017-01-04 21:32:42] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how?
[2017-01-04 21:33:23] MrRGnome : @sleger whatever you say, I'm not looking for you to explain anything I'm trying to as sensitively to your ego as possible introduce the reality that maybe you don't understand unisolated margin can be consumed in a liquidation.
[2017-01-04 21:34:10] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: if liquidated u get mark price+maintence margin
[2017-01-04 21:34:21] rapidtrades : this is < market price rn
[2017-01-04 21:34:39] BTCDJS : Shut the front door!
[2017-01-04 21:34:51] BTCDJS : thats crazy
[2017-01-04 21:35:16] rapidtrades : only marginally....its 1% to 1.5% atm
[2017-01-04 21:35:20] BTCDJS : But it can quickly go against you though no?
[2017-01-04 21:35:30] rapidtrades : still 0.5% is 0.5%
[2017-01-04 21:35:33] aethlios : west exchanges are more volatile, less manipulation, china scams banned corrections.
[2017-01-04 21:36:05] aethlios : They say to you: either you buy or nothing.
[2017-01-04 21:36:55] aethlios : they paused engines now?? went to eat??
[2017-01-04 21:39:40] gustavo7 : aethlios: gone to chinese new year holiday
[2017-01-04 21:40:21] gustavo7 : JK, thats on 8th feb
[2017-01-04 21:41:16] rapidtrades : $18 premium and still no word from the MEX
[2017-01-04 21:43:38] ytaews : rapidtrades: I guess they'll just change the contract terms again, no?
[2017-01-04 21:43:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 101 @ 1224.23
[2017-01-04 21:43:41] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-01-04 21:44:21] BTCDJS : longs getting REKT shorts getting REKT
[2017-01-04 21:44:44] BTCDJS : Im going to drink some alcohol and get REKT
[2017-01-04 21:44:52] Milkman : lol xbth17
[2017-01-04 21:44:57] Milkman : now MM just checked out
[2017-01-04 21:45:05] Milkman : wonder where they will place bids when they return
[2017-01-04 21:45:07] Turbo : we may be rolling over....
[2017-01-04 21:45:20] Turbo : this still falls into the cup and handle formation...
[2017-01-04 21:45:21] BTCDJS : Turbo: wanna spoon?
[2017-01-04 21:45:51] Turbo : ok, but i;m big spoon
[2017-01-04 21:46:36] MikeHunt : btc gonna lift off tonight
[2017-01-04 21:46:38] MikeHunt : keep selling
[2017-01-04 21:46:59] jung1 : ok long time
[2017-01-04 21:47:06] rapidtrades : yeah lift off to Satan's lair
[2017-01-04 21:47:39] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: no black swan, no crash
[2017-01-04 21:48:16] rapidtrades : crashing from 1100 would not be a 'black swan'
[2017-01-04 21:48:32] Turbo : rapidtrades: nope, just a correction
[2017-01-04 21:48:34] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: this has the capacity to go a lot higher
[2017-01-04 21:48:47] rapidtrades : 666 tonight!
[2017-01-04 21:48:49] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i mean a crash back to mean, not correction
[2017-01-04 21:49:10] rowrow : if bitcoin crashes i lose money, but i make bitcoin - that's good, right?
[2017-01-04 21:49:18] rowrow : (lose dollars)
[2017-01-04 21:49:21] Milkman : you make more than you lose
[2017-01-04 21:49:36] orly : you can now trade contracts for 1111.11 usd
[2017-01-04 21:49:36] aethlios : rowrow: so you never lose in btc.
[2017-01-04 21:49:39] rapidtrades : rowrow: ofc it's not good u dummy
[2017-01-04 21:49:41] BTCDJS : rowrow: yup keep making the corns and you'll be ok
[2017-01-04 21:49:52] jung1 : you think it will crash?
[2017-01-04 21:50:37] rowrow : i don't think it will but ya never know
[2017-01-04 21:51:02] BTCDJS : it won't crash. Someone will catch it
[2017-01-04 21:51:21] BTCDJS : even at 1$
[2017-01-04 21:51:45] jung1 : good point
[2017-01-04 21:51:52] rowrow : well, $1 would mean the encryption has been broken or something
[2017-01-04 21:52:01] aethlios : 1$ a good target
[2017-01-04 21:52:04] jung1 : some heavy buys
[2017-01-04 21:52:16] rowrow : some heavy sells, apparently
[2017-01-04 21:52:24] Milkman : what about LTC/CNY guys? http://i.imgur.com/YHyIVMm.png
[2017-01-04 21:52:56] Milkman : big volume. might be breaking out soon
[2017-01-04 21:53:39] rowrow : litecoin is a coin of people only buying because they're looking to dump to a "greater fool"
[2017-01-04 21:54:05] Milkman : china has a lot of money and a lot of coins. and ltc hashrate has gone up a lot recently
[2017-01-04 21:54:07] rowrow : doesn't mean you can't make money off of it though
[2017-01-04 21:54:22] Milkman : and there is active development.
[2017-01-04 21:54:26] aethlios : if btc retraces before breaks 1200 ATH, ltc will crash, so a cheap bet to buy at 3 usd and gamble a whale group will pump it hard when btc starts advancing to 10,000.
[2017-01-04 21:54:46] jung1 : LTC is boring coin and people like boring investments
[2017-01-04 21:54:48] Milkman : and the ratio is rock bottom. not sure if the ratio will pump before settlement or not. but worth keeping an eye on
[2017-01-04 21:55:08] aethlios : such manipulation, after such pump price action halts suddenly.
[2017-01-04 21:55:37] Milkman : ltc whales can move coins to all the exchanges and pump on china exchanges. then dump for massive amount of BTC on all the exchanges on greater fools
[2017-01-04 21:55:45] aethlios : better bet ltcusd, because ltcbtc maybe not go much up
[2017-01-04 21:56:22] rapidtrades : we're witnessing the last major capital flight imo
[2017-01-04 21:56:33] rapidtrades : the door is closing
[2017-01-04 21:57:00] rapidtrades : $120 premium to china right now
[2017-01-04 21:57:16] Milkman : higher price though so it's expected
[2017-01-04 21:57:19] rapidtrades : they're buying everything they can over there and dumping it here
[2017-01-04 21:57:19] aethlios : 11.1% almost highest ever.
[2017-01-04 21:57:27] MrRGnome : largest premium usd/cny I have ever seen
[2017-01-04 21:57:46] MrRGnome : I don't think it's even been larger
[2017-01-04 21:58:14] Milkman : it would be like a $60 premium at $600 though
[2017-01-04 21:58:16] aethlios : they have to dump on west exchanges to convert to usd, eur, and then will stop buying in china and premiums will crash to zero.
[2017-01-04 21:58:40] rapidtrades : i think they know time is running out, that's why the surge today
[2017-01-04 21:58:47] Milkman : damn i should have shorted swap for the funding and the dump.
[2017-01-04 21:58:52] rapidtrades : so far they did it slowly, waiting for us to catch up
[2017-01-04 21:59:19] rapidtrades : look at usd/cnh
[2017-01-04 21:59:20] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: you are predicting BoC action against btc capital flight?
[2017-01-04 21:59:29] rapidtrades : lost almost month worth of gains today
[2017-01-04 21:59:32] rapidtrades : its 'game over
[2017-01-04 21:59:42] aethlios : they pay 11% fee now to send capital in the west.
[2017-01-04 22:01:06] jung1 : seems like we will go up
[2017-01-04 22:02:45] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/sec-bitcoin-etf-decision-delayed-trump-transition/
[2017-01-04 22:03:43] MrRGnome : jesus christ
[2017-01-04 22:03:50] MrRGnome : thankfully that's the last time they can delay it
[2017-01-04 22:04:41] cookielito : its gonna go through
[2017-01-04 22:04:46] cookielito : and we will all be millionaires
[2017-01-04 22:04:52] cookielito : except the shortys around here
[2017-01-04 22:05:50] rowrow : shorters now and shorters in 2 months will likely be different people
[2017-01-04 22:07:42] aethlios : record volume in usd today bitmex.
[2017-01-04 22:09:15] Milkman : congrats guys
[2017-01-04 22:09:21] Milkman : spend the fee money wisely
[2017-01-04 22:09:25] Milkman : no hookers and cocaine
[2017-01-04 22:09:39] Sheriff : Fuck this mark price being 21 dollars lower
[2017-01-04 22:09:59] sleger : fees should be donated towards insurance fund when it goes down because of an issue like today ;)
[2017-01-04 22:10:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 40000 @ 8895.2
[2017-01-04 22:10:10] Alls : Wow China 8800
[2017-01-04 22:10:24] Alls : Set up a safety net a 8500 before going to sleep on well
[2017-01-04 22:11:25] imabeast : one more level up
[2017-01-04 22:11:28] imabeast : then i think were done
[2017-01-04 22:12:35] rapidtrades : sleger: $24 premium and still nothing, can u believe this shit
[2017-01-04 22:12:49] sleger : yes
[2017-01-04 22:12:57] rapidtrades : u should go long some
[2017-01-04 22:13:15] sleger : i bought some at 15$ premium, seemed low :)
[2017-01-04 22:13:22] aethlios : can't fight central banks press and zero fees fake volume btc china exchanges.
[2017-01-04 22:13:24] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-01-04 22:13:44] Papou : whats this premium ur talking about
[2017-01-04 22:14:03] sleger : Papou: it's yuuuge
[2017-01-04 22:14:15] Papou : what is it
[2017-01-04 22:14:21] Yuppie : strange thing is the premium started only once we broker 8,000 in CNY
[2017-01-04 22:14:22] Papou : what does it mean
[2017-01-04 22:14:23] sleger : a secret
[2017-01-04 22:14:37] dodic : No one can be told what the premium is
[2017-01-04 22:15:47] javierrueda : I believe premium is the positive difference between the derivative price and the spot price
[2017-01-04 22:16:12] Papou : ah
[2017-01-04 22:16:38] Papou : i think we see 950's
[2017-01-04 22:16:41] sleger : buyyyyyyy
[2017-01-04 22:16:54] Gr33d : agree
[2017-01-04 22:17:09] dodic : ?
[2017-01-04 22:17:17] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/cu1a4OGl/
[2017-01-04 22:17:23] javierrueda : if derivative price is higher, then we talk about premium, if it is lower then we are talking about discount
[2017-01-04 22:17:25] aethlios : place your comments
[2017-01-04 22:17:42] Papou : ah i see
[2017-01-04 22:18:48] Yoda : Yes pap
[2017-01-04 22:19:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 18 @ 1114.49
[2017-01-04 22:19:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 5600 @ 1246.46
[2017-01-04 22:20:01] Yoda : hey pap what do you mean by 950s?
[2017-01-04 22:20:02] justinlooking : oh!!!
[2017-01-04 22:20:05] jung1 : aethlios: could be
[2017-01-04 22:20:08] justinlooking : XBCH17 so close
[2017-01-04 22:20:16] Papou : that would be consolidation price if we retrace
[2017-01-04 22:20:22] Papou : but i know fro sure bitcoin will break 1200
[2017-01-04 22:20:26] Papou : maybe 2000 honestly
[2017-01-04 22:20:37] Papou : should break 20 billion market cap bitcoin alone for good promotion
[2017-01-04 22:20:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1500 @ 1116.53
[2017-01-04 22:21:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 34150 @ 1117.70
[2017-01-04 22:21:44] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 96000 @ 1117.66 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-04 22:22:17] rapidtrades : do smth bitmex that's stupid ^^^
[2017-01-04 22:22:35] Alls : 96k ouch
[2017-01-04 22:22:39] rapidtrades : shit getting filled $20 below market
[2017-01-04 22:23:11] zanza : .375% for days
[2017-01-04 22:23:36] zanza : rapidtrades: what is your position ?
[2017-01-04 22:23:38] PARAFFIN : why is there a 20$ spread?
[2017-01-04 22:23:44] zanza : not a spread
[2017-01-04 22:23:47] zanza : premium
[2017-01-04 22:23:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 14350 @ 1118.48
[2017-01-04 22:23:56] rapidtrades : cos IQ is really low here @PARAFFIN
[2017-01-04 22:23:58] PARAFFIN : why is premium so high?
[2017-01-04 22:23:58] zanza : obviously there are no shorters left
[2017-01-04 22:24:00] MikeHunt : zanza: how do we get the premium?
[2017-01-04 22:24:09] justinlooking : okc is fubar
[2017-01-04 22:24:16] zanza : you can short and make $20 premium
[2017-01-04 22:24:22] zanza : and funding 375
[2017-01-04 22:24:27] hobolowbo : what is the BTC all time high?
[2017-01-04 22:24:33] MikeHunt : zanza: ahh i see, thanks
[2017-01-04 22:24:35] zanza : over $1000
[2017-01-04 22:24:36] rms : it's pretty sane to do it if you are hedged by longing futures at the same time
[2017-01-04 22:25:03] Gr33d : 1216.73USD
[2017-01-04 22:25:06] PARAFFIN : who has control over that price?
[2017-01-04 22:25:21] sleger : PARAFFIN: me
[2017-01-04 22:25:43] PARAFFIN : so its not decentralized
[2017-01-04 22:26:03] sleger : lol
[2017-01-04 22:26:32] rapidtrades : sleger: so fund has to be empty by now?
[2017-01-04 22:26:53] sleger : rapidtrades: no clue, bitmex never answered on what part was the swap, they never ever did to my knowledge
[2017-01-04 22:27:24] rapidtrades : they keep executing shorts $20 below market
[2017-01-04 22:27:28] rapidtrades : can't be much left
[2017-01-04 22:28:53] rapidtrades : keep an eye out for the news fellas
[2017-01-04 22:29:10] rapidtrades : bloomberg, zerohedge, forexlive
[2017-01-04 22:29:17] rapidtrades : coindesk
[2017-01-04 22:29:22] Papou : http://www.coindesk.com/sec-bitcoin-etf-decision-delayed-trump-transition/
[2017-01-04 22:29:29] rapidtrades : ur late
[2017-01-04 22:29:35] Papou : bitcoin getting approved in march for sure. we going to the moon
[2017-01-04 22:29:42] Milkman : who was buying xbth17 at 1256 lol
[2017-01-04 22:30:08] Milkman : i guess when market maker is gone you gotta do what you gotta do
[2017-01-04 22:30:18] rapidtrades : we are at peak stupidity right now
[2017-01-04 22:30:29] imabeast : lmao
[2017-01-04 22:30:38] imabeast : predictions on top?
[2017-01-04 22:30:38] aethlios : 105 china premium, down a bit
[2017-01-04 22:31:19] Papou : there is no reason to not break CNY ATH
[2017-01-04 22:31:36] aethlios : was 8,000 we are above china ATH
[2017-01-04 22:31:59] shivan.goyal : Can someone explain the funding rate @.375% and why do I have to pay it?
[2017-01-04 22:32:02] rapidtrades : 1k users
[2017-01-04 22:32:11] Papou : i really think bitcoin is getting ready for parabolic
[2017-01-04 22:32:23] Papou : up movement
[2017-01-04 22:32:29] Milkman : once stamp and bitfinex break $1175 then we go straight up
[2017-01-04 22:32:33] Papou : yup
[2017-01-04 22:32:42] MikeHunt : midnight will be interesting
[2017-01-04 22:32:50] MikeHunt : pumps get turned on
[2017-01-04 22:32:51] Papou : ppl are mad because this is happening too fast too early
[2017-01-04 22:32:52] Papou : oh well
[2017-01-04 22:32:57] Papou : yup
[2017-01-04 22:33:01] Gr33d : lol
[2017-01-04 22:33:33] rapidtrades : I will read this chat in 3 days and laugh at ur stupidity
[2017-01-04 22:33:47] Papou : right ok.
[2017-01-04 22:34:07] Papou : look it can retrace no one isnt saying it cant, but it will be temporary if it happens and we will go parabolic up
[2017-01-04 22:34:31] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: as it crashes?
[2017-01-04 22:34:34] rapidtrades : we already are parabolic dude
[2017-01-04 22:34:35] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: u long?
[2017-01-04 22:34:47] moo : do you realize that amoung of money you nede in marketcap to go parabolic from 1000$+ "bottom"?
[2017-01-04 22:34:47] seshbb : hey has anyone had experiences with trailing stops cancelling themselves lately?
[2017-01-04 22:35:28] rapidtrades : moo: r/bitcoinmarkets says ur wrong
[2017-01-04 22:35:29] seshbb : I might be doing something wrong but I had about 10 trailing stops last night, 1 triggered and then the rest just cancelled without me cancelling them
[2017-01-04 22:35:56] BitMEX_Greg : seshbb: Did you have "Close on Trigger" selected?
[2017-01-04 22:36:04] rapidtrades : the consensus over there is 5k
[2017-01-04 22:36:21] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: do smth Greg, this isn't funny
[2017-01-04 22:36:37] Papou : most bitcoins arent on the market
[2017-01-04 22:36:44] seshbb : thanks bitmex_greg, just noticed the check box and what it does
[2017-01-04 22:36:46] Papou : we have already passed resistance
[2017-01-04 22:36:51] Papou : its free up soon
[2017-01-04 22:36:54] seshbb : issue resolved, cheers!
[2017-01-04 22:37:00] Gr33d : Moontime confirmed
[2017-01-04 22:37:18] BTCDJS : Jesus christ
[2017-01-04 22:37:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 31750 @ 1124.88
[2017-01-04 22:37:31] BTCDJS : EUPHORIA
[2017-01-04 22:37:43] Milkman : new high china
[2017-01-04 22:37:43] justinlooking : XBCH17 over 9000!
[2017-01-04 22:37:45] Milkman : here we go again
[2017-01-04 22:37:57] Milkman : that was me justinlooking. only place i can get in a long
[2017-01-04 22:38:01] rapidtrades : if u have to spam, at least spam Are we there yet
[2017-01-04 22:38:09] gustavo7 : LIFTOFF
[2017-01-04 22:38:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1125.94
[2017-01-04 22:38:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 81458 @ 1126.54 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-04 22:38:12] dodic : lol... 1174
[2017-01-04 22:38:33] Gr33d : <3 ty
[2017-01-04 22:38:37] dodic : i mean 1175.98...
[2017-01-04 22:38:37] Milkman : wish i didnt close my xbth17 long
[2017-01-04 22:38:41] Milkman : that shit is crazy
[2017-01-04 22:38:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60 @ 1132.32
[2017-01-04 22:38:49] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 135044 @ 1131.11 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-04 22:38:56] dodic : oh my
[2017-01-04 22:39:01] MikeHunt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygE01sOhzz0&t=20s
[2017-01-04 22:39:07] MikeHunt : ^here we go
[2017-01-04 22:39:09] sleger : ADL will come bite some ?
[2017-01-04 22:39:11] Papou : what did i say
[2017-01-04 22:39:13] PARAFFIN : oh comeone 40$
[2017-01-04 22:39:13] Papou : 1200 incoming
[2017-01-04 22:39:21] Milkman : 0kcoin dump
[2017-01-04 22:39:27] Milkman : 8390 cny hit
[2017-01-04 22:39:32] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: this time I'm hung up on all the moon talk. Because like you said. We are already parabolic
[2017-01-04 22:39:45] BTCDJS : 466 to 1150
[2017-01-04 22:39:49] Milkman : who is the idiot in xbch17
[2017-01-04 22:39:58] Milkman : are u fucking retarded
[2017-01-04 22:40:11] Alls : Lol mass.dump.in 17 I caught a 8888 deal
[2017-01-04 22:40:22] sleger : Alls: saw that too
[2017-01-04 22:40:31] sleger : XBCH17 1000 1000 0 8826.0
[2017-01-04 22:40:34] Milkman : do it again so i can catch a lower entry
[2017-01-04 22:40:40] MikeHunt : Milkman: +1
[2017-01-04 22:40:51] MikeHunt : this thing is going up
[2017-01-04 22:41:13] Gr33d : long closed 1170, short opened 1170, short closed 1140 long opened 1140 tyall
[2017-01-04 22:41:27] MikeHunt : the bots just need to hold this in place until midnight wen the chinese astronaut shows up
[2017-01-04 22:41:35] Alls : Instant 200% ROI
[2017-01-04 22:42:05] rapidtrades : sleger: don't u feel uncomfortable being on the same side as all these newbs
[2017-01-04 22:42:07] gustavo7 : it's a pulse rocket
[2017-01-04 22:42:15] gartley : flagging up
[2017-01-04 22:42:32] Noob : i think it's going to dip
[2017-01-04 22:42:45] Speran49 : Why won't xbt let me open a long
[2017-01-04 22:42:45] sleger : rapidtrades: they will get rekt on the next correction, i wont
[2017-01-04 22:43:06] Milkman : Speran49: we moved to xbc futures
[2017-01-04 22:43:12] Noob : might go up later tonight, but i think it's going to dip at bit between now and then.
[2017-01-04 22:43:14] lockhedge : sleger: are you shorting okc weekly?
[2017-01-04 22:43:17] mjmj83 : Any news on changing the funding rate?
[2017-01-04 22:43:20] freefall : see the spread to coinbase?
[2017-01-04 22:43:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 25000 @ 1260.06
[2017-01-04 22:43:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 5000 @ 1259.19
[2017-01-04 22:43:40] sleger : lockhedge: i sold my long there
[2017-01-04 22:43:53] Noob : coinbase 1133
[2017-01-04 22:44:05] Speran49 : So there is something wrong with the swaps?
[2017-01-04 22:44:09] freefall : it was 1118 seconds ago xD
[2017-01-04 22:44:15] freefall : no it ist not
[2017-01-04 22:44:24] freefall : there is just a hughe buyer coming in
[2017-01-04 22:44:34] Papou : im telling you guys
[2017-01-04 22:44:40] Papou : bitcoin is HIGHLY undervalued
[2017-01-04 22:44:48] rowrow : k thx
[2017-01-04 22:44:49] freefall : defnetly:D
[2017-01-04 22:44:52] Papou : at this market cap. be real with yourselves. apple is 400b.
[2017-01-04 22:44:52] rapidtrades : gtfo
[2017-01-04 22:44:53] mjmj83 : Papou: thanks for telling us
[2017-01-04 22:44:55] Milkman : the only way big money can move into BTC is jacking the price up
[2017-01-04 22:45:02] Papou : yep
[2017-01-04 22:45:06] freefall : who is the buyer with this large liqidation order?:D
[2017-01-04 22:45:07] Papou : it needs to grow
[2017-01-04 22:45:08] rapidtrades : apple makes useful products
[2017-01-04 22:45:13] mjmj83 : But does anyone know any updates about altering the Funding Rate?
[2017-01-04 22:45:21] rapidtrades : NO NEWS
[2017-01-04 22:45:26] rapidtrades : THEY'RE IGNORING US
[2017-01-04 22:45:29] mjmj83 : thanks rapis
[2017-01-04 22:45:31] mjmj83 : rapid
[2017-01-04 22:45:51] mjmj83 : i think they're too busy counting the fees they made
[2017-01-04 22:45:52] freefall : coinbase is still far below bitmex
[2017-01-04 22:46:09] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 20 @ 1263.32
[2017-01-04 22:46:09] REKT : :btc: :rocket: :crescent_moon:
[2017-01-04 22:48:18] Milkman : xbch17 sucks too. main market maker leaves randomly too
[2017-01-04 22:48:27] Milkman : maybe some n00b will dump into my low buys
[2017-01-04 22:48:43] freefall : still buying these prices?:D
[2017-01-04 22:49:02] Milkman : bitfinex almost new high
[2017-01-04 22:49:06] Milkman : $35 away from ATH
[2017-01-04 22:49:26] freefall : u guys think we gonna rally this night?:D
[2017-01-04 22:49:55] Milkman : stamp 700 btc away from ATH
[2017-01-04 22:50:50] alejandromasari : shorts won't give up
[2017-01-04 22:50:54] alejandromasari : keep shorting
[2017-01-04 22:51:15] wurstgelee : we can savely say we are on the moon now @ new ATH
[2017-01-04 22:51:19] Milkman : damn everything went quiet
[2017-01-04 22:51:23] wurstgelee : we should start talking about mars next
[2017-01-04 22:51:30] freefall : we are not even in the clouds ;)
[2017-01-04 22:51:38] gusi : freefall: maybe https://www.tradingview.com/x/eW7gXqea/
[2017-01-04 22:51:38] wurstgelee : i am open for planet suggestions tho
[2017-01-04 22:52:05] jung1 : imo https://www.tradingview.com/x/cu1a4OGl/
[2017-01-04 22:52:14] freefall : gusi: thx ;)
[2017-01-04 22:52:29] gustavo7 : okcoin stream goes out on bitcoinwisdom again
[2017-01-04 22:52:44] Milkman : great wall of china trying to manipulate the price
[2017-01-04 22:53:00] Milkman : we dont know if btc is mooning or tanking
[2017-01-04 22:53:15] mg : Is unrealized pnl based on the mark price or the current spot? We are above my entry but it's still red
[2017-01-04 22:53:24] freefall : mark
[2017-01-04 22:53:27] jigsaw : in all honesty noone here has any idea of what they are doing, right?
[2017-01-04 22:53:28] mg : ic
[2017-01-04 22:53:39] Gr33d : mg: mark
[2017-01-04 22:53:54] JamesPolo : jigsaw: 0
[2017-01-04 22:53:54] Gr33d : jigsaw: yh
[2017-01-04 22:53:58] Milkman : i know what i'm doing. praying the damn market maker comes back
[2017-01-04 22:53:59] mg : Does that mean if I closed now I wouldn't profit?
[2017-01-04 22:54:05] freefall : i think someone is buying highly leveraged longs
[2017-01-04 22:54:12] Milkman : how am i suppose to long this if there is no one on the other side
[2017-01-04 22:54:13] freefall : yes u do
[2017-01-04 22:54:27] Papou : how do they know what is highly leveraged...
[2017-01-04 22:54:44] freefall : idk? they r trading?
[2017-01-04 22:54:49] Milkman : mg: if you close above where you entered in the orderbook you profit. but fees eat some of the profit
[2017-01-04 22:54:55] Milkman : 0kcoin 8545 new high
[2017-01-04 22:55:05] jung1 : huobubobu the same
[2017-01-04 22:55:09] freefall : dont close ur longs! its gonna rally :D
[2017-01-04 22:55:20] jung1 : yeah
[2017-01-04 22:55:39] Milkman : 8590 cny 0kcoin
[2017-01-04 22:56:05] Milkman : ath for every exchange tonight at this rate
[2017-01-04 22:56:11] PARAFFIN : freefall: says freefall
[2017-01-04 22:56:15] Milkman : 8591 0kcoin
[2017-01-04 22:56:20] jung1 : we are making history guys
[2017-01-04 22:56:25] jung1 : cheers
[2017-01-04 22:56:27] freefall : hopefully ;)
[2017-01-04 22:56:33] dodic : PARAFFIN: Falling up?
[2017-01-04 22:56:44] PARAFFIN : dodic: ye
[2017-01-04 22:56:45] kekkyojin_irc : YEAH
[2017-01-04 22:56:46] Milkman : new high bitfinex
[2017-01-04 22:56:58] MikeHunt : okcoin/huobi are under attack but are holding
[2017-01-04 22:57:02] MikeHunt : DDOS
[2017-01-04 22:57:10] freefall : are they?
[2017-01-04 22:57:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 960 @ 1133.96
[2017-01-04 22:57:20] freefall : coinbase was down too couple of minutes ago
[2017-01-04 22:57:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 50 @ 1270.45
[2017-01-04 22:57:35] MikeHunt : freefall: https://twitter.com/CryptOrca/status/816774150610096128
[2017-01-04 22:57:43] MikeHunt : if they have cloudflare they'll be fine
[2017-01-04 22:57:43] freefall : MikeHunt: thx
[2017-01-04 22:57:54] wignodeer : hi guys. my entry price is 1145.8 at 10x leverage. why is my unrealized pnl at minus 9% then? anyone?
[2017-01-04 22:58:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 4000 @ 1275.49
[2017-01-04 22:58:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1500 @ 1273.33
[2017-01-04 22:58:15] Mm bot : DDOS attack on Okcoin domain name
[2017-01-04 22:58:16] freefall : wignodeer: its the mark price
[2017-01-04 22:58:21] aethlios : okcoin march spread wide 3 usd,
[2017-01-04 22:58:33] MikeHunt : okcoin will catch up
[2017-01-04 22:58:35] freefall : wignodeer: u ll be positive if u close now
[2017-01-04 22:58:42] MikeHunt : small botnets trying to short bitcoin, not gonna work imo
[2017-01-04 22:59:01] MikeHunt : unless they are testing them for dump time
[2017-01-04 22:59:03] MikeHunt : who knows...
[2017-01-04 22:59:03] freefall : anyone of u guys mining coins?
[2017-01-04 22:59:05] wignodeer : freefall: sorry I don't understand. can you explain a bit more?
[2017-01-04 22:59:14] dodic : freefall: yep
[2017-01-04 22:59:25] alejandromasari : who's shorting 1160?
[2017-01-04 22:59:28] gustavo7 : wignodeer: was long 1145 too, closed at 1155 - worked nice got 1% profit
[2017-01-04 22:59:39] alejandromasari : short short short lol
[2017-01-04 22:59:48] freefall : wignodeer: the mark price is not the market price. if u close ur position now, ull get the market price
[2017-01-04 23:00:25] freefall : wignodeer: so right now u r in profit
[2017-01-04 23:00:45] Adriana : Is anyone here from Bitmex?
[2017-01-04 23:01:02] jung1 : 10k tonight?
[2017-01-04 23:01:03] freefall : Adriana: u mean admins?
[2017-01-04 23:01:14] jung1 : WE ARE BITMEX
[2017-01-04 23:01:24] BTCDJS : Adriana: SAM GREG AND WALLY are
[2017-01-04 23:01:37] jung1 : @sam_bitmex
[2017-01-04 23:02:05] BTCDJS : wally!!!!
[2017-01-04 23:02:10] BTCDJS : Sam!!!!
[2017-01-04 23:02:16] BTCDJS : Greg!!!!!
[2017-01-04 23:02:25] Adriana : @sam_bitmex could please look at my last liquidation
[2017-01-04 23:02:26] MikeHunt : where's wally?
[2017-01-04 23:02:28] BitMEX_Wally : Try @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-01-04 23:02:35] BitMEX_Wally : Or @BitMEX_Wally
[2017-01-04 23:02:37] wignodeer : freefall: is there any indicator to find out how much i will be at profit?
[2017-01-04 23:02:38] imabeast : if u short you are about to lose a lot of money
[2017-01-04 23:02:39] imabeast : please do
[2017-01-04 23:02:54] Gr33d : +
[2017-01-04 23:02:55] moo : if you had one short
[2017-01-04 23:02:57] moo : one opportunity
[2017-01-04 23:02:59] BTCDJS : Adriana: aren't you sleger?
[2017-01-04 23:03:02] freefall : wignodeer: use a calculator ;) entrance - market = profit
[2017-01-04 23:03:04] moo : whould u do it?
[2017-01-04 23:03:06] PARAFFIN : moo: epic
[2017-01-04 23:03:10] sleger : BTCDJS: no she's not
[2017-01-04 23:03:14] freefall : moo: :D:D:D
[2017-01-04 23:03:20] Adriana : I am not
[2017-01-04 23:03:23] wurstgelee : i welcome all new shorters at bitmex tho. may your short stay be enjoyable. i need your margin! ;)
[2017-01-04 23:03:41] Gr33d : time to short ngl
[2017-01-04 23:03:43] BTCDJS : you both used the same accent so I don't believe you
[2017-01-04 23:04:05] freefall : how can u guys be short in these times?:D:D.
[2017-01-04 23:04:18] paniktrade : freefall: they dont like money
[2017-01-04 23:04:26] wurstgelee : BTCDJS: its his bot ;)
[2017-01-04 23:04:27] Milkman : 8620 cny here we go again
[2017-01-04 23:04:28] freefall : paniktrade: yes probably :D
[2017-01-04 23:04:29] jung1 : 8600 huobubobu
[2017-01-04 23:04:34] wignodeer : freefall: I see. thank you. so the unrealised pnl compares my mark price vs the current kaiko price? My mark price was 1137.4. My entry price was 1145.8 My unrealised pnl is now minus 7%
[2017-01-04 23:04:38] BitMEX_Wally : Adriana: If you have a question regarding a liquidation, please reply to the Liquidation Notification email
[2017-01-04 23:05:04] freefall : wignodeer: are u short?
[2017-01-04 23:05:37] freefall : wignodeer: forget about mark price and kaiko
[2017-01-04 23:06:01] freefall : wignodeer: just see the DOM and read the price, thats it
[2017-01-04 23:06:37] Adriana : BitMEX_Wally: ok, i will. my short got liquidated somehow, the entry price was 1160
[2017-01-04 23:06:39] Milkman : how are people still longing swap
[2017-01-04 23:06:42] Milkman : sounds like a horrible idea
[2017-01-04 23:06:52] freefall : wignodeer: ur profit is aproximatly 23$ per BTC
[2017-01-04 23:07:03] dmasters : Wally - are you planning to increase margins?
[2017-01-04 23:07:23] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: swap is getting worse, not better
[2017-01-04 23:07:32] BTCDJS : Milkman: Its the crazy ones who change the world
[2017-01-04 23:07:43] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: +1
[2017-01-04 23:07:59] Milkman : honestly i rather have just kept my 1155 long on xbth17 now
[2017-01-04 23:08:12] freefall : Milkman: :D:D:
[2017-01-04 23:08:16] Milkman : should have known better it'd be impssonle to get back in
[2017-01-04 23:08:29] Milkman : $25 from bitfinex ATH
[2017-01-04 23:08:40] wignodeer : freefall: sorry again, whats DOM now?
[2017-01-04 23:08:50] moo : He is nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready, to short 100x, but he keeps forgetting, that the trend is up, the whole china goes so loud, he opens his short but the price wont come down, he is choking, how? Everybody closing shorts now, the sell walls run out, liquidation price is up, over - blaow!
[2017-01-04 23:08:53] BTCDJS : I wish I never set a 35$ trail stop when I went long @860
[2017-01-04 23:08:56] freefall : wignodeer: depth of market, the thing displaying the prices
[2017-01-04 23:09:06] Gr33d : moo: +Nice.
[2017-01-04 23:09:13] Milkman : i longed at 829 the new quarterly. should have just left that o_O
[2017-01-04 23:09:15] wignodeer : freefall: ok. I'm long, not short
[2017-01-04 23:09:20] BTCDJS : I went out that night and thought Id better be on the safe side
[2017-01-04 23:09:30] wignodeer : freefall: got it now I think. thanks man
[2017-01-04 23:09:49] freefall : moo: ur
[2017-01-04 23:09:52] freefall : moo: ur
[2017-01-04 23:10:26] freefall : moo: ur
[2017-01-04 23:10:46] freefall : moo: ur
[2017-01-04 23:11:01] aethlios : MM left the ask side, only bids, must be overloaded shorts.
[2017-01-04 23:11:06] aethlios : on march
[2017-01-04 23:11:13] moo : 100x here
[2017-01-04 23:11:15] moo : yolo solo
[2017-01-04 23:11:28] l3f : aethlios: are you buying back in?
[2017-01-04 23:11:38] Headroom : do we have live datas in testnet mode ? or the test mode is fully simulated ? (trade + datas)
[2017-01-04 23:11:43] zanza : this is why Bitmex should not cap their funding lol
[2017-01-04 23:11:47] aethlios : l3f: are you crazy??
[2017-01-04 23:11:55] l3f : aethlios: this is the beginning
[2017-01-04 23:12:03] l3f : this will go on for at least a week
[2017-01-04 23:12:18] moo : the begging was dec 22 or so
[2017-01-04 23:12:25] MikeHunt : XMR meant to be going up with btc?
[2017-01-04 23:12:49] moo : Snap! Back to reality, oops there goes gravity
[2017-01-04 23:12:51] Milkman : XMR could hit billion dollar market cap i bet
[2017-01-04 23:12:52] freefall : wignodeer: sry, computer bugging. DOM is depth of market, the thing displaying the prices
[2017-01-04 23:13:08] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: a few alts are going up
[2017-01-04 23:13:17] moo : 100x'd 1161
[2017-01-04 23:13:21] moo : i will close it at 100$
[2017-01-04 23:13:23] BTCDJS : ETH ETC DASH
[2017-01-04 23:13:30] BTCDJS : XMR
[2017-01-04 23:13:36] wignodeer : freefall: yep got it. thanks for the knowledge breh
[2017-01-04 23:13:37] aethlios : l3f: I don't care to go long in a higher price if this is a bottom and TA shows a new bull will start. took my profits and wait.
[2017-01-04 23:13:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10731 @ 1260.83
[2017-01-04 23:13:48] wignodeer : freefall: you answered all of my questions
[2017-01-04 23:13:48] freefall : wignodeer: np ;)
[2017-01-04 23:13:50] l3f : aethlios: haha ok
[2017-01-04 23:14:45] MikeHunt : aethlios: only 45 mins now
[2017-01-04 23:15:46] MikeHunt : XMR is safe bet imo as its still got a long way to go up even if btc crashes
[2017-01-04 23:16:14] Milkman : up 15% today. good job everyone.
[2017-01-04 23:16:26] Milkman : someone on bitfinex taking profit
[2017-01-04 23:16:40] Milkman : stamp too
[2017-01-04 23:16:42] freefall : Milkman: or maybe arbitrage?
[2017-01-04 23:16:43] Milkman : the n00bs are back
[2017-01-04 23:16:54] aethlios : MikeHunt: I will try to catch cheap ltc around 3.20 when btc dumps. I am sure pump groups will pump it when btc above 1,500.
[2017-01-04 23:16:55] Milkman : market dumping to get out. the only way they know how
[2017-01-04 23:17:15] Milkman : LTC/BTC ratio new low.
[2017-01-04 23:17:32] MikeHunt : aethlios: +1
[2017-01-04 23:18:24] aethlios : ltc the only un pumped major coin now, ltcusd pair i am watching. going long ltcbtc means you are short btc, so could not make money. but in btcusd you can make money since you are short usd
[2017-01-04 23:18:44] moo : ltc is abandoned garbage
[2017-01-04 23:18:53] moo : probably controled by 1 chinese farm
[2017-01-04 23:19:03] XBT_IHCT : BitMEX_Wally: there is something weird going on with the ROE% on the swap.
[2017-01-04 23:19:43] Papou : its showing u mark price on roe and pnl
[2017-01-04 23:19:50] Papou : not actual contract prices
[2017-01-04 23:19:54] MikeHunt : XBT_IHCT: if it comes back up and im long do i get anything or loose anything?
[2017-01-04 23:19:59] Papou : ur realized pnl is from settlement prices, not mark prices
[2017-01-04 23:20:02] aethlios : moo: whales accumulate coins from miners, if it is abandomed they will pump it to exit the scam, so either way beting on a pump is high odds.
[2017-01-04 23:20:10] zanza : swap never settles
[2017-01-04 23:20:21] freefall : MikeHunt: u loose when market is going down
[2017-01-04 23:20:33] MikeHunt : freefall: i mean the purple line thing
[2017-01-04 23:20:46] MikeHunt : freefall: doesnt always follow contract prices imo
[2017-01-04 23:20:55] MikeHunt : so im asking if that has any real effect
[2017-01-04 23:21:00] freefall : MikeHunt: well i guess thats the Mar31 contract ;)
[2017-01-04 23:21:20] MikeHunt : freefall: on swap the purple line is bellow contract price
[2017-01-04 23:21:39] moo : aethlios: when was the last tiem ltc was properly pumped? i think all the whales did exit it for good value
[2017-01-04 23:21:44] freefall : MikeHunt: okay, then im stupid :D dont know, that it is