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[2017-01-04 20:31:44] jung1 : ah fck this im going long
[2017-01-04 20:32:03] Milkman : so hard to get in a position now. price can swing either way with ease
[2017-01-04 20:32:43] MikeHunt : Milkman: lot of headroom to go up
[2017-01-04 20:33:04] Milkman : okcoin usd orderbook is empty. it's like no one trades there
[2017-01-04 20:33:05] MikeHunt : if china is asleep it cant go down too much unless bots decide to
[2017-01-04 20:33:08] lockhedge : BitMEX_Greg: my mm bot received a >9000 milliseconds timeout during that flash crash at 20:27:34.093 UTC
[2017-01-04 20:33:36] BitMEX_Greg : lockhedge: I'll bring it up with Sam when he's online
[2017-01-04 20:33:55] lockhedge : BitMEX_Greg: thanks
[2017-01-04 20:34:35] johndoe : okcoin USD had only 20 BTC traded on that flash crash
[2017-01-04 20:35:17] johndoe : seriously gotta consider putting bitfinex back into the index
[2017-01-04 20:35:33] Milkman : coinbase or gemini
[2017-01-04 20:35:56] j8 : coinbase has my vote
[2017-01-04 20:36:08] y1uy : none
[2017-01-04 20:36:12] j8 : gemini wouldn't help much at all
[2017-01-04 20:36:13] thomaskikansha : okc dipped to 1088 wtf
[2017-01-04 20:37:43] Rado2 : lockhedge: this trading is a really good test for my MM bot
[2017-01-04 20:38:00] jung1 : Rado2: Hi rado!
[2017-01-04 20:38:16] Rado2 : jung1: hey
[2017-01-04 20:38:36] jung1 : how is your eth bot?
[2017-01-04 20:41:24] justinlooking : Rado2: production testing ftw!
[2017-01-04 20:43:54] aaaaa : cheap coins
[2017-01-04 20:44:00] aaaaa : there
[2017-01-04 20:44:53] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Greg: what @johndoe said. i dont like finex either but....
[2017-01-04 20:44:58] MrRGnome : crazy to think that 1000 is the new psychological floor for usd.
[2017-01-04 20:45:13] wurstgelee : volume. current volume of the index is ...well...laughable ;)
[2017-01-04 20:45:55] PARAFFIN : Short question. I have a short position open with ROE 104%. But i can only close the position when the bitmex price hits the 1112$ with that profit right?
[2017-01-04 20:46:17] QuantFocus : yes
[2017-01-04 20:46:22] sleger : no
[2017-01-04 20:46:25] sleger : you can close it whenever
[2017-01-04 20:46:31] QuantFocus : but not for that profit
[2017-01-04 20:46:32] sleger : but you wont have the same profit
[2017-01-04 20:46:34] sleger : ok
[2017-01-04 20:46:35] lockhedge : Rado2: yeah, it's a great stress test environment for a mm bot, but still relatively low volatility compared to June
[2017-01-04 20:47:59] sleger : china 100$ premium now
[2017-01-04 20:48:05] rapidtrades : don't u dare bring back that cancer exchange into the index
[2017-01-04 20:48:20] brojo : rapidtrades: whats that
[2017-01-04 20:48:29] rapidtrades : china's nuts basically
[2017-01-04 20:48:50] Milkman : damn xbth17 dropping. plz pump. i didnt close my long when it was 20 higher
[2017-01-04 20:49:02] Milkman : fucking 0kcoin usd and bearstamp dragging it down
[2017-01-04 20:49:06] inconspic : epic dump inc
[2017-01-04 20:49:40] wurstgelee : no
[2017-01-04 20:49:55] rapidtrades : DUMP IT ON TZE GERMAN
[2017-01-04 20:50:10] Milkman : lets see if china wants down or not. seems everyone else does
[2017-01-04 20:50:48] inconspic : 1030-1040 target
[2017-01-04 20:50:53] Yuppie : quick question: if I get liquidated, does it only affect the margin which I put into the trade at fixed margin?
[2017-01-04 20:50:55] imapotato : $124 premium on quarterlies is crazy.
[2017-01-04 20:50:58] inconspic : on spot that is
[2017-01-04 20:51:09] wurstgelee : inconspic: that would be a retrace but not an "epic dump"
[2017-01-04 20:51:16] rapidtrades : sleger: 81 okc 3m premium...i think they capped it again
[2017-01-04 20:51:37] rapidtrades : didn't stop their miner buddies from getting rekted earlier tho
[2017-01-04 20:51:42] inconspic : wurstgelee: it's all relative :p
[2017-01-04 20:51:47] rapidtrades : 10 f*cking million
[2017-01-04 20:52:07] wurstgelee : inconspic: yeah, less that 10ß% shouldnt be called epic tho :)
[2017-01-04 20:52:15] alejandromasari : I wish we bitmex had opitons so we can calculate the implied volatility
[2017-01-04 20:52:46] rapidtrades : try deribit
[2017-01-04 20:53:18] wurstgelee : also lol @ bearfinex
[2017-01-04 20:54:18] wurstgelee : $26 premium xbtusd ;)
[2017-01-04 20:54:23] rapidtrades : https://www.deribit.com/main#/options
[2017-01-04 20:54:49] wurstgelee : there it goes
[2017-01-04 20:54:53] Milkman : who the fuck is longing with a $148 premium on h17
[2017-01-04 20:55:04] rapidtrades : who? mad men
[2017-01-04 20:55:06] imapotato : $143 quarterly premium ffs
[2017-01-04 20:55:15] Milkman : bot gone wild
[2017-01-04 20:55:16] imapotato : I want to BTFD but not for that premium
[2017-01-04 20:55:17] Milkman : short and hope for a dump
[2017-01-04 20:55:34] m3s : imapotato: what does that mean? im not trading futures but would like to understand
[2017-01-04 20:56:07] abbey : profit takin @ bitstamp.. then up
[2017-01-04 20:56:46] imapotato : m3s: the XBTH17 futures contract is trading at about $143 above the "real", current BTC price.
[2017-01-04 20:57:02] rapidtrades : 53% annialized is not a lot tbh
[2017-01-04 20:57:49] rowrow : as an average expectation it would be
[2017-01-04 20:57:50] aethlios : 120 usd china premium
[2017-01-04 20:58:28] abbey : china as well, first down, then up to new high again.. stairs
[2017-01-04 20:58:44] imapotato : rapidtrades: spot down $40 and quarterly fell like $10
[2017-01-04 20:59:29] rapidtrades : watch or the hack announcement
[2017-01-04 20:59:46] rapidtrades : they'll do it to bailout their miner buddies
[2017-01-04 20:59:57] rapidtrades : but will prove to be no big thing
[2017-01-04 21:00:04] Gr33d : ripcoin
[2017-01-04 21:01:14] sleger : eth is now flat when btc goes up and goes up when btc goes down, very bullish
[2017-01-04 21:01:35] rapidtrades : sleger noone will invest in that shit
[2017-01-04 21:01:40] aethlios : sleger: anyone buys anything.
[2017-01-04 21:01:55] sleger : aethlios: did your move your bids up from 800 ?
[2017-01-04 21:01:58] rms : that was actually the bull signal i would have wanted to get back into eth
[2017-01-04 21:02:01] Milkman : xbth17 so bullish. $138 premium. a mega dump will be epic
[2017-01-04 21:02:17] aethlios : sleger: i will put them fib 36% from top.
[2017-01-04 21:02:23] imapotato : The West is dumping so hard and China just trading straight sideways, wtf
[2017-01-04 21:02:33] Sasukeevil : shorting has never been so easy
[2017-01-04 21:02:34] JamesPolo : bitfinex 1090
[2017-01-04 21:02:38] Derreck : wtf id happening
[2017-01-04 21:02:39] sleger : aethlios: ok so following the price but below
[2017-01-04 21:02:43] aethlios : i mean 64 retrace of the move from 465
[2017-01-04 21:02:47] sleger : seems more reasonable
[2017-01-04 21:02:47] rms : i think it's a really big deal that chinese state news covered bitcoin today in a neutral way
[2017-01-04 21:02:47] Dynamix : How low can this go
[2017-01-04 21:03:00] sleger : Dynamix: buy now
[2017-01-04 21:03:10] abbey : big bounce incoming within couple of hours or minutes
[2017-01-04 21:03:11] JamesPolo : Dynamix: hoq long before china wakes up?
[2017-01-04 21:03:18] Derreck : abbey: hope so
[2017-01-04 21:03:22] Dynamix : hoq ? ;D
[2017-01-04 21:03:30] rapidtrades : bitcoin restrictions are coming, im now 90% sure of it
[2017-01-04 21:03:30] JamesPolo : Dynamix: hoq.
[2017-01-04 21:03:35] rms : they wake up at 5:30AM from my experience here
[2017-01-04 21:03:44] rms : but clearly some of their traders never went to sleep. :)
[2017-01-04 21:04:10] kekkyojin : rapidtrades: restrictions in China?
[2017-01-04 21:04:11] aethlios : 12% china premium, almost highest ever, but in niminal 125 usd is highest.
[2017-01-04 21:04:19] Headroom : *praying for the Sam's return*
[2017-01-04 21:04:24] rapidtrades : kekkyojin: yes
[2017-01-04 21:04:59] rapidtrades : Yuan surged higher today yet bitcoin is rallying, its the only possible reason
[2017-01-04 21:05:27] rapidtrades : the chinese will implement new capital controls and bitcoin will be part of it
[2017-01-04 21:05:35] chuvancito : this sucks
[2017-01-04 21:05:59] MrRGnome : chuvancito: what sucks about a $1100+ btc?
[2017-01-04 21:06:06] sleger : then i will sell my bitcoins in china, get yuan, buy a lot of 10c tshirts, ship them to europe, sell them and buy bitcoins cheap
[2017-01-04 21:06:10] kekkyojin : rapidtrades: thank you for the explanation
[2017-01-04 21:06:15] l3f : aethlios: well?
[2017-01-04 21:06:16] rapidtrades : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-04/bitcoin-hits-an-all-time-high-as-currency-controls-drive-fear
[2017-01-04 21:06:20] l3f : it has exploded as expected
[2017-01-04 21:06:22] chuvancito : liquidation is abouts all your money, no your position. This exchange sucks
[2017-01-04 21:06:38] cookielito : hahaha
[2017-01-04 21:06:39] l3f : we'll probably retrace before taking on 10k though
[2017-01-04 21:06:41] cookielito : careful man
[2017-01-04 21:06:41] brojo : what is a good place to park money if you think btc going to drop
[2017-01-04 21:06:45] brojo : LTC?
[2017-01-04 21:06:47] QuantFocus : is this real?
[2017-01-04 21:06:53] QuantFocus : $35 premium on swap?
[2017-01-04 21:06:54] QuantFocus : wtf
[2017-01-04 21:07:00] rms : lol, yeah, no one ever loses money with litecoin
[2017-01-04 21:07:01] MrRGnome : chuvancito: Sounds like maybe you didn't understand what you were doing when you entered your position. It's a complicated platform with a significant learning curve
[2017-01-04 21:07:01] cookielito : QuantFocus: thios is all a simulation
[2017-01-04 21:07:08] l3f : QuantFocus: 100x shining through
[2017-01-04 21:07:08] Kalman : chuvancito: youre right; better a sound and safe exchenge
[2017-01-04 21:07:15] brojo : rms: does it correlate to btc market?
[2017-01-04 21:07:44] QuantFocus : oh, nm i was looking at the wrong shit
[2017-01-04 21:07:46] sleger : QuantFocus: check your math
[2017-01-04 21:07:55] QuantFocus : still $25
[2017-01-04 21:08:00] QuantFocus : ish
[2017-01-04 21:08:02] aaaaa : fuck
[2017-01-04 21:08:05] aaaaa : fuck you
[2017-01-04 21:08:08] chuvancito : MrRGnome: how can i learn about this platform. I mean, i know how to trade, but this exchange take me by sorprice
[2017-01-04 21:08:10] aaaaa : fucking
[2017-01-04 21:08:27] Kalman : chuvancito: what about reading first
[2017-01-04 21:08:30] brojo : QuantFocus: what alt would you go into if you think btc pulls back 10-20%
[2017-01-04 21:08:30] rapidtrades : BITMEX FIX THE F*cKING SWAP
[2017-01-04 21:08:30] aaaaa : this is awesome
[2017-01-04 21:08:43] aaaaa : go up!
[2017-01-04 21:08:45] QuantFocus : brojo: eth, rep, ltc
[2017-01-04 21:08:46] aaaaa : go down!
[2017-01-04 21:08:50] aaaaa : crazy shit
[2017-01-04 21:08:56] Derreck : go sideways!
[2017-01-04 21:08:56] breadfan : this http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/bitcoin-surges-above-1000-china-unveils-new-capital-controls
[2017-01-04 21:08:57] QuantFocus : i wanna say xmr, but with the run it's already on
[2017-01-04 21:08:57] rapidtrades : sleger: can u believe this shit?
[2017-01-04 21:09:04] MrRGnome : chuvancito: The issue isn't knowing how to trade, the issue is understanding the nature of the instrument you are trading. It's not an exchange you are trading, but a swap derivative.
[2017-01-04 21:09:31] rapidtrades : $32 on swap is highest ever
[2017-01-04 21:09:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 11 @ 0.016055
[2017-01-04 21:09:37] aethlios : l3f: fine!!
[2017-01-04 21:09:39] rapidtrades : and now its 37
[2017-01-04 21:09:50] sleger : rapidtrades: check your math
[2017-01-04 21:09:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 70 @ 0.016297
[2017-01-04 21:10:08] Milkman : nice pump xmr
[2017-01-04 21:10:11] rapidtrades : ah sorry was looking at march
[2017-01-04 21:10:13] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: what? where are you seeing 37 usd diff?
[2017-01-04 21:10:16] Milkman : should have jumped over and longed it
[2017-01-04 21:10:17] MrRGnome : ahhh
[2017-01-04 21:10:30] rapidtrades : $19 is still high
[2017-01-04 21:10:43] aaaaa : sideways
[2017-01-04 21:10:48] imabeast : i would long here for a quick scalp
[2017-01-04 21:11:04] imabeast : hit previous resistance at 1005
[2017-01-04 21:11:45] Milkman : i shorted xbth17 to see if this dump kills the premium for nice gains
[2017-01-04 21:11:55] Milkman : but bullbot may keep price up
[2017-01-04 21:12:09] brojo : shorted china --- against my strategy but seems like the right play right now
[2017-01-04 21:12:23] brojo : and long litecoin 1x contracts
[2017-01-04 21:12:47] chuvancito : MrRGnome: trading what ? sorry but i dont understand what are u saying bro
[2017-01-04 21:13:44] JamesPolo : was 1200 just a dream?
[2017-01-04 21:14:13] fineregex : i have a proposal to make to the bitcoin community! 1. unite, trade a common strategy. fix the price at $10000 it will help people convert to USD in their decimal minds , as a side effect we can save ourselfes all the tedious/obscene trading activites
[2017-01-04 21:14:26] fineregex : for years to come
[2017-01-04 21:15:00] jung1 : fineregex: sounds good. Feel free to pu 5bln $ into the ecosystem
[2017-01-04 21:15:06] kekkyojin : fineregex: isn't that manipulation of the markets?
[2017-01-04 21:15:06] MrRGnome : chuvancito: It's cool. Just understand that you are trading a unique financial instrument, not BTC for USD. You can learn more here: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2017-01-04 21:15:07] jung1 : +put
[2017-01-04 21:15:25] fineregex : kekkyojin: it only works if its real
[2017-01-04 21:16:28] imabeast : long
[2017-01-04 21:16:35] rapidtrades : IT WORKS IF ITS REAL
[2017-01-04 21:16:37] imabeast : from 1005
[2017-01-04 21:16:49] Milkman : i give up on trying to short xbth17. bullbot loading up for next leg up i suppose
[2017-01-04 21:16:55] imabeast : dont short
[2017-01-04 21:17:02] imabeast : if u wanna short just hedge towards alts
[2017-01-04 21:17:03] imabeast : lol
[2017-01-04 21:17:32] rapidtrades : $20 PREMIUM surely u must be joking bitmex
[2017-01-04 21:17:34] rapidtrades : surely
[2017-01-04 21:17:46] Milkman : xbth17 premium will fall like $50 in a nice size dump. but that dump isnt right now
[2017-01-04 21:19:42] moo : Pump!
[2017-01-04 21:19:42] moo : 9k
[2017-01-04 21:19:49] gustavo7 : why premium tough? the CNY spots are way higher...
[2017-01-04 21:19:52] Gr33d : pumpinc
[2017-01-04 21:19:55] inconspic : uhmwhat
[2017-01-04 21:19:57] moo : CHINA ON A PUMP
[2017-01-04 21:20:05] wurstgelee : and now straight to now highs. just buttcorn things
[2017-01-04 21:20:08] wurstgelee : *new
[2017-01-04 21:20:19] gustavo7 : a) china has the hashrate and the trading volume to lead
[2017-01-04 21:20:27] imabeast : told ya...
[2017-01-04 21:20:29] imabeast : lmao
[2017-01-04 21:20:33] justinlooking : rapid
[2017-01-04 21:20:43] MrRGnome : sleger: did you ever get an answer on the swap insurance fund remaining?
[2017-01-04 21:20:44] justinlooking : THY WILL BE REKT
[2017-01-04 21:21:03] gustavo7 : b) or did something happen to the CNY/USD fx ?
[2017-01-04 21:21:05] wurstgelee : is rapid shorting the bull again?
[2017-01-04 21:21:21] wurstgelee : didnt he learn from last 2 bull runs?
[2017-01-04 21:21:25] Derreck : that was fast
[2017-01-04 21:21:25] IdeologieKritik : How are you supposed to ever buy in on a high margin if the mark price is so consistently below liquidation price?
[2017-01-04 21:22:07] imabeast : :)
[2017-01-04 21:22:29] BTCDJS : IdeologieKritik: you only buy on very high margin when its not
[2017-01-04 21:22:42] BTCDJS : best time to buy is bellow
[2017-01-04 21:22:50] moo : Huobi pumping like crazy
[2017-01-04 21:22:59] cookielito : watch how the chinese are about to wake up
[2017-01-04 21:23:05] sleger : good premium again ...
[2017-01-04 21:23:18] cookielito : here we go gentlemen
[2017-01-04 21:23:22] BTCDJS : IdeologieKritik: best time to short is now for example
[2017-01-04 21:23:31] imabeast : ready for the next leg up
[2017-01-04 21:23:33] imabeast : at least 175
[2017-01-04 21:23:36] BTCDJS : because of the high premium
[2017-01-04 21:23:45] imabeast : that dump was dirty
[2017-01-04 21:24:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 115000 @ 1112.12 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-04 21:24:05] moo : bear trap...
[2017-01-04 21:24:06] imabeast : looooool
[2017-01-04 21:24:10] MrRGnome : lololol
[2017-01-04 21:24:24] sleger : well he got liq at 1112 not at 1132 ....
[2017-01-04 21:24:32] sleger : so he wins
[2017-01-04 21:24:35] aaaaa : trend is your friend
[2017-01-04 21:24:39] moo : okcoin pumping and pumping
[2017-01-04 21:24:43] MrRGnome : Did it actually execute at 1112?
[2017-01-04 21:24:44] sleger : he buys at 1112 and can resell at 1132
[2017-01-04 21:25:10] imapotato : Gg
[2017-01-04 21:25:18] MrRGnome : sleger: I was pretty sure the mark price that triggered the liq was what was quoted, but the actual order could be very different depending ont he order book
[2017-01-04 21:25:39] QuantFocus : its sitting at 1126
[2017-01-04 21:25:48] sleger : it doesnt matter at this point the guy only had a fixed maintenance margin he cant lose more
[2017-01-04 21:25:55] sleger : the rest comes from somewhere else
[2017-01-04 21:25:59] sleger : insurance fund, ADL ...
[2017-01-04 21:26:08] MrRGnome : Sure, I'm just pretty sure that 1112 executed not at 1112 but above 1125
[2017-01-04 21:26:38] sleger : i dont think you understand the point
[2017-01-04 21:27:12] MrRGnome : I think you think I don't understand the point, but I think you're wrong,
[2017-01-04 21:27:39] sleger : MrRGnome: explain how to profit from premium > maintenance margin
[2017-01-04 21:27:43] rapidtrades : he's not wrong
[2017-01-04 21:28:22] MrRGnome : [14:24] sleger: he buys at 1112 and can resell at 1132
[2017-01-04 21:28:34] Noob : i got burned by selling at market - never again!
[2017-01-04 21:28:36] Noob : lesson learned
[2017-01-04 21:28:45] BTCDJS : MrRGnome: he was short
[2017-01-04 21:28:52] rapidtrades : meaning his short got margined there @MrRGnome
[2017-01-04 21:29:00] Milkman : lol xbth17 just dumped $15 MM up to games
[2017-01-04 21:29:10] MrRGnome : Yeah I understand that
[2017-01-04 21:29:18] MrRGnome : What I don't understand is the idea that he bought at 1112
[2017-01-04 21:29:20] rowrow : so does the forced liquidation stay on the book for a few seconds until trades stop or was my orderbook just frozen?
[2017-01-04 21:29:20] MrRGnome : He didn't
[2017-01-04 21:29:24] rapidtrades : u clearly don't
[2017-01-04 21:29:35] MrRGnome : The only way he effectively did is if his account was emptied by th eliquidation and the insurance fund ate the diff
[2017-01-04 21:29:43] MrRGnome : in which case he can't buy anything as sleger says his account is empty
[2017-01-04 21:29:58] rapidtrades : 2 accounts
[2017-01-04 21:30:01] rapidtrades : new deposit
[2017-01-04 21:30:06] rapidtrades : so many options
[2017-01-04 21:30:17] MrRGnome : Sure, and you're saying you think that's what happened?
[2017-01-04 21:30:19] sleger : you dont even need to have your account empty, isolating margin is enough
[2017-01-04 21:30:28] rapidtrades : ah yes
[2017-01-04 21:30:50] MrRGnome : sleger: If you isolate margin it will come out of your unisolated balance before the insurance fund or ADL if I understand correctly.
[2017-01-04 21:31:01] lockhedge : you don't
[2017-01-04 21:31:12] MrRGnome : You see people complaining about that here pretty often, says I was liquidated at price x bu the order was at price y
[2017-01-04 21:31:27] lockhedge : but you were right about the price
[2017-01-04 21:31:42] rapidtrades : but now its different cos premium so high
[2017-01-04 21:31:44] sleger : MrRGnome: if you had been nice in the past i would maybe explained, but you were always so arrogant pretending you understood everything so ... good luck
[2017-01-04 21:31:54] rapidtrades : it pays to be liquidated rn
[2017-01-04 21:32:20] rapidtrades : if short ofc
[2017-01-04 21:32:42] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: how?
[2017-01-04 21:33:23] MrRGnome : @sleger whatever you say, I'm not looking for you to explain anything I'm trying to as sensitively to your ego as possible introduce the reality that maybe you don't understand unisolated margin can be consumed in a liquidation.
[2017-01-04 21:34:10] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: if liquidated u get mark price+maintence margin
[2017-01-04 21:34:21] rapidtrades : this is < market price rn
[2017-01-04 21:34:39] BTCDJS : Shut the front door!
[2017-01-04 21:34:51] BTCDJS : thats crazy
[2017-01-04 21:35:16] rapidtrades : only marginally....its 1% to 1.5% atm
[2017-01-04 21:35:20] BTCDJS : But it can quickly go against you though no?
[2017-01-04 21:35:30] rapidtrades : still 0.5% is 0.5%
[2017-01-04 21:35:33] aethlios : west exchanges are more volatile, less manipulation, china scams banned corrections.
[2017-01-04 21:36:05] aethlios : They say to you: either you buy or nothing.
[2017-01-04 21:36:55] aethlios : they paused engines now?? went to eat??
[2017-01-04 21:39:40] gustavo7 : aethlios: gone to chinese new year holiday
[2017-01-04 21:40:21] gustavo7 : JK, thats on 8th feb
[2017-01-04 21:41:16] rapidtrades : $18 premium and still no word from the MEX
[2017-01-04 21:43:38] ytaews : rapidtrades: I guess they'll just change the contract terms again, no?
[2017-01-04 21:43:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 101 @ 1224.23
[2017-01-04 21:43:41] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-01-04 21:44:21] BTCDJS : longs getting REKT shorts getting REKT
[2017-01-04 21:44:44] BTCDJS : Im going to drink some alcohol and get REKT
[2017-01-04 21:44:52] Milkman : lol xbth17
[2017-01-04 21:44:57] Milkman : now MM just checked out
[2017-01-04 21:45:05] Milkman : wonder where they will place bids when they return
[2017-01-04 21:45:07] Turbo : we may be rolling over....
[2017-01-04 21:45:20] Turbo : this still falls into the cup and handle formation...
[2017-01-04 21:45:21] BTCDJS : Turbo: wanna spoon?
[2017-01-04 21:45:51] Turbo : ok, but i;m big spoon
[2017-01-04 21:46:36] MikeHunt : btc gonna lift off tonight
[2017-01-04 21:46:38] MikeHunt : keep selling
[2017-01-04 21:46:59] jung1 : ok long time
[2017-01-04 21:47:06] rapidtrades : yeah lift off to Satan's lair
[2017-01-04 21:47:39] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: no black swan, no crash
[2017-01-04 21:48:16] rapidtrades : crashing from 1100 would not be a 'black swan'
[2017-01-04 21:48:32] Turbo : rapidtrades: nope, just a correction
[2017-01-04 21:48:34] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: this has the capacity to go a lot higher
[2017-01-04 21:48:47] rapidtrades : 666 tonight!
[2017-01-04 21:48:49] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i mean a crash back to mean, not correction
[2017-01-04 21:49:10] rowrow : if bitcoin crashes i lose money, but i make bitcoin - that's good, right?
[2017-01-04 21:49:18] rowrow : (lose dollars)
[2017-01-04 21:49:21] Milkman : you make more than you lose
[2017-01-04 21:49:36] orly : you can now trade contracts for 1111.11 usd
[2017-01-04 21:49:36] aethlios : rowrow: so you never lose in btc.
[2017-01-04 21:49:39] rapidtrades : rowrow: ofc it's not good u dummy
[2017-01-04 21:49:41] BTCDJS : rowrow: yup keep making the corns and you'll be ok
[2017-01-04 21:49:52] jung1 : you think it will crash?
[2017-01-04 21:50:37] rowrow : i don't think it will but ya never know
[2017-01-04 21:51:02] BTCDJS : it won't crash. Someone will catch it
[2017-01-04 21:51:21] BTCDJS : even at 1$
[2017-01-04 21:51:45] jung1 : good point
[2017-01-04 21:51:52] rowrow : well, $1 would mean the encryption has been broken or something
[2017-01-04 21:52:01] aethlios : 1$ a good target
[2017-01-04 21:52:04] jung1 : some heavy buys
[2017-01-04 21:52:16] rowrow : some heavy sells, apparently
[2017-01-04 21:52:24] Milkman : what about LTC/CNY guys? http://i.imgur.com/YHyIVMm.png
[2017-01-04 21:52:56] Milkman : big volume. might be breaking out soon
[2017-01-04 21:53:39] rowrow : litecoin is a coin of people only buying because they're looking to dump to a "greater fool"
[2017-01-04 21:54:05] Milkman : china has a lot of money and a lot of coins. and ltc hashrate has gone up a lot recently
[2017-01-04 21:54:07] rowrow : doesn't mean you can't make money off of it though
[2017-01-04 21:54:22] Milkman : and there is active development.
[2017-01-04 21:54:26] aethlios : if btc retraces before breaks 1200 ATH, ltc will crash, so a cheap bet to buy at 3 usd and gamble a whale group will pump it hard when btc starts advancing to 10,000.
[2017-01-04 21:54:46] jung1 : LTC is boring coin and people like boring investments
[2017-01-04 21:54:48] Milkman : and the ratio is rock bottom. not sure if the ratio will pump before settlement or not. but worth keeping an eye on
[2017-01-04 21:55:08] aethlios : such manipulation, after such pump price action halts suddenly.
[2017-01-04 21:55:37] Milkman : ltc whales can move coins to all the exchanges and pump on china exchanges. then dump for massive amount of BTC on all the exchanges on greater fools
[2017-01-04 21:55:45] aethlios : better bet ltcusd, because ltcbtc maybe not go much up
[2017-01-04 21:56:22] rapidtrades : we're witnessing the last major capital flight imo
[2017-01-04 21:56:33] rapidtrades : the door is closing
[2017-01-04 21:57:00] rapidtrades : $120 premium to china right now
[2017-01-04 21:57:16] Milkman : higher price though so it's expected
[2017-01-04 21:57:19] rapidtrades : they're buying everything they can over there and dumping it here
[2017-01-04 21:57:19] aethlios : 11.1% almost highest ever.
[2017-01-04 21:57:27] MrRGnome : largest premium usd/cny I have ever seen
[2017-01-04 21:57:46] MrRGnome : I don't think it's even been larger
[2017-01-04 21:58:14] Milkman : it would be like a $60 premium at $600 though
[2017-01-04 21:58:16] aethlios : they have to dump on west exchanges to convert to usd, eur, and then will stop buying in china and premiums will crash to zero.
[2017-01-04 21:58:40] rapidtrades : i think they know time is running out, that's why the surge today
[2017-01-04 21:58:47] Milkman : damn i should have shorted swap for the funding and the dump.
[2017-01-04 21:58:52] rapidtrades : so far they did it slowly, waiting for us to catch up
[2017-01-04 21:59:19] rapidtrades : look at usd/cnh
[2017-01-04 21:59:20] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: you are predicting BoC action against btc capital flight?
[2017-01-04 21:59:29] rapidtrades : lost almost month worth of gains today
[2017-01-04 21:59:32] rapidtrades : its 'game over
[2017-01-04 21:59:42] aethlios : they pay 11% fee now to send capital in the west.
[2017-01-04 22:01:06] jung1 : seems like we will go up
[2017-01-04 22:02:45] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/sec-bitcoin-etf-decision-delayed-trump-transition/
[2017-01-04 22:03:43] MrRGnome : jesus christ
[2017-01-04 22:03:50] MrRGnome : thankfully that's the last time they can delay it
[2017-01-04 22:04:41] cookielito : its gonna go through
[2017-01-04 22:04:46] cookielito : and we will all be millionaires
[2017-01-04 22:04:52] cookielito : except the shortys around here
[2017-01-04 22:05:50] rowrow : shorters now and shorters in 2 months will likely be different people
[2017-01-04 22:07:42] aethlios : record volume in usd today bitmex.
[2017-01-04 22:09:15] Milkman : congrats guys
[2017-01-04 22:09:21] Milkman : spend the fee money wisely
[2017-01-04 22:09:25] Milkman : no hookers and cocaine
[2017-01-04 22:09:39] Sheriff : Fuck this mark price being 21 dollars lower
[2017-01-04 22:09:59] sleger : fees should be donated towards insurance fund when it goes down because of an issue like today ;)
[2017-01-04 22:10:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 40000 @ 8895.2
[2017-01-04 22:10:10] Alls : Wow China 8800
[2017-01-04 22:10:24] Alls : Set up a safety net a 8500 before going to sleep on well
[2017-01-04 22:11:25] imabeast : one more level up
[2017-01-04 22:11:28] imabeast : then i think were done
[2017-01-04 22:12:35] rapidtrades : sleger: $24 premium and still nothing, can u believe this shit
[2017-01-04 22:12:49] sleger : yes
[2017-01-04 22:12:57] rapidtrades : u should go long some
[2017-01-04 22:13:15] sleger : i bought some at 15$ premium, seemed low :)
[2017-01-04 22:13:22] aethlios : can't fight central banks press and zero fees fake volume btc china exchanges.
[2017-01-04 22:13:24] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-01-04 22:13:44] Papou : whats this premium ur talking about
[2017-01-04 22:14:03] sleger : Papou: it's yuuuge
[2017-01-04 22:14:15] Papou : what is it
[2017-01-04 22:14:21] Yuppie : strange thing is the premium started only once we broker 8,000 in CNY
[2017-01-04 22:14:22] Papou : what does it mean
[2017-01-04 22:14:23] sleger : a secret
[2017-01-04 22:14:37] dodic : No one can be told what the premium is
[2017-01-04 22:15:47] javierrueda : I believe premium is the positive difference between the derivative price and the spot price
[2017-01-04 22:16:12] Papou : ah
[2017-01-04 22:16:38] Papou : i think we see 950's
[2017-01-04 22:16:41] sleger : buyyyyyyy
[2017-01-04 22:16:54] Gr33d : agree
[2017-01-04 22:17:09] dodic : ?
[2017-01-04 22:17:17] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/cu1a4OGl/
[2017-01-04 22:17:23] javierrueda : if derivative price is higher, then we talk about premium, if it is lower then we are talking about discount
[2017-01-04 22:17:25] aethlios : place your comments
[2017-01-04 22:17:42] Papou : ah i see
[2017-01-04 22:18:48] Yoda : Yes pap
[2017-01-04 22:19:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 18 @ 1114.49
[2017-01-04 22:19:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 5600 @ 1246.46
[2017-01-04 22:20:01] Yoda : hey pap what do you mean by 950s?
[2017-01-04 22:20:02] justinlooking : oh!!!
[2017-01-04 22:20:05] jung1 : aethlios: could be
[2017-01-04 22:20:08] justinlooking : XBCH17 so close
[2017-01-04 22:20:16] Papou : that would be consolidation price if we retrace
[2017-01-04 22:20:22] Papou : but i know fro sure bitcoin will break 1200
[2017-01-04 22:20:26] Papou : maybe 2000 honestly
[2017-01-04 22:20:37] Papou : should break 20 billion market cap bitcoin alone for good promotion
[2017-01-04 22:20:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1500 @ 1116.53
[2017-01-04 22:21:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 34150 @ 1117.70
[2017-01-04 22:21:44] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 96000 @ 1117.66 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-04 22:22:17] rapidtrades : do smth bitmex that's stupid ^^^
[2017-01-04 22:22:35] Alls : 96k ouch
[2017-01-04 22:22:39] rapidtrades : shit getting filled $20 below market
[2017-01-04 22:23:11] zanza : .375% for days
[2017-01-04 22:23:36] zanza : rapidtrades: what is your position ?
[2017-01-04 22:23:38] PARAFFIN : why is there a 20$ spread?
[2017-01-04 22:23:44] zanza : not a spread
[2017-01-04 22:23:47] zanza : premium
[2017-01-04 22:23:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 14350 @ 1118.48
[2017-01-04 22:23:56] rapidtrades : cos IQ is really low here @PARAFFIN
[2017-01-04 22:23:58] PARAFFIN : why is premium so high?
[2017-01-04 22:23:58] zanza : obviously there are no shorters left
[2017-01-04 22:24:00] MikeHunt : zanza: how do we get the premium?
[2017-01-04 22:24:09] justinlooking : okc is fubar
[2017-01-04 22:24:16] zanza : you can short and make $20 premium
[2017-01-04 22:24:22] zanza : and funding 375
[2017-01-04 22:24:27] hobolowbo : what is the BTC all time high?
[2017-01-04 22:24:33] MikeHunt : zanza: ahh i see, thanks
[2017-01-04 22:24:35] zanza : over $1000
[2017-01-04 22:24:36] rms : it's pretty sane to do it if you are hedged by longing futures at the same time
[2017-01-04 22:25:03] Gr33d : 1216.73USD
[2017-01-04 22:25:06] PARAFFIN : who has control over that price?
[2017-01-04 22:25:21] sleger : PARAFFIN: me
[2017-01-04 22:25:43] PARAFFIN : so its not decentralized
[2017-01-04 22:26:03] sleger : lol
[2017-01-04 22:26:32] rapidtrades : sleger: so fund has to be empty by now?
[2017-01-04 22:26:53] sleger : rapidtrades: no clue, bitmex never answered on what part was the swap, they never ever did to my knowledge
[2017-01-04 22:27:24] rapidtrades : they keep executing shorts $20 below market
[2017-01-04 22:27:28] rapidtrades : can't be much left
[2017-01-04 22:28:53] rapidtrades : keep an eye out for the news fellas
[2017-01-04 22:29:10] rapidtrades : bloomberg, zerohedge, forexlive
[2017-01-04 22:29:17] rapidtrades : coindesk
[2017-01-04 22:29:22] Papou : http://www.coindesk.com/sec-bitcoin-etf-decision-delayed-trump-transition/
[2017-01-04 22:29:29] rapidtrades : ur late
[2017-01-04 22:29:35] Papou : bitcoin getting approved in march for sure. we going to the moon
[2017-01-04 22:29:42] Milkman : who was buying xbth17 at 1256 lol
[2017-01-04 22:30:08] Milkman : i guess when market maker is gone you gotta do what you gotta do
[2017-01-04 22:30:18] rapidtrades : we are at peak stupidity right now
[2017-01-04 22:30:29] imabeast : lmao
[2017-01-04 22:30:38] imabeast : predictions on top?
[2017-01-04 22:30:38] aethlios : 105 china premium, down a bit
[2017-01-04 22:31:19] Papou : there is no reason to not break CNY ATH
[2017-01-04 22:31:36] aethlios : was 8,000 we are above china ATH
[2017-01-04 22:31:59] shivan.goyal : Can someone explain the funding rate @.375% and why do I have to pay it?
[2017-01-04 22:32:02] rapidtrades : 1k users
[2017-01-04 22:32:11] Papou : i really think bitcoin is getting ready for parabolic
[2017-01-04 22:32:23] Papou : up movement
[2017-01-04 22:32:29] Milkman : once stamp and bitfinex break $1175 then we go straight up
[2017-01-04 22:32:33] Papou : yup
[2017-01-04 22:32:42] MikeHunt : midnight will be interesting
[2017-01-04 22:32:50] MikeHunt : pumps get turned on
[2017-01-04 22:32:51] Papou : ppl are mad because this is happening too fast too early
[2017-01-04 22:32:52] Papou : oh well
[2017-01-04 22:32:57] Papou : yup
[2017-01-04 22:33:01] Gr33d : lol
[2017-01-04 22:33:33] rapidtrades : I will read this chat in 3 days and laugh at ur stupidity
[2017-01-04 22:33:47] Papou : right ok.
[2017-01-04 22:34:07] Papou : look it can retrace no one isnt saying it cant, but it will be temporary if it happens and we will go parabolic up
[2017-01-04 22:34:31] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: as it crashes?
[2017-01-04 22:34:34] rapidtrades : we already are parabolic dude
[2017-01-04 22:34:35] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: u long?
[2017-01-04 22:34:47] moo : do you realize that amoung of money you nede in marketcap to go parabolic from 1000$+ "bottom"?
[2017-01-04 22:34:47] seshbb : hey has anyone had experiences with trailing stops cancelling themselves lately?
[2017-01-04 22:35:28] rapidtrades : moo: r/bitcoinmarkets says ur wrong
[2017-01-04 22:35:29] seshbb : I might be doing something wrong but I had about 10 trailing stops last night, 1 triggered and then the rest just cancelled without me cancelling them
[2017-01-04 22:35:56] BitMEX_Greg : seshbb: Did you have "Close on Trigger" selected?
[2017-01-04 22:36:04] rapidtrades : the consensus over there is 5k
[2017-01-04 22:36:21] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Greg: do smth Greg, this isn't funny
[2017-01-04 22:36:37] Papou : most bitcoins arent on the market
[2017-01-04 22:36:44] seshbb : thanks bitmex_greg, just noticed the check box and what it does
[2017-01-04 22:36:46] Papou : we have already passed resistance
[2017-01-04 22:36:51] Papou : its free up soon
[2017-01-04 22:36:54] seshbb : issue resolved, cheers!
[2017-01-04 22:37:00] Gr33d : Moontime confirmed
[2017-01-04 22:37:18] BTCDJS : Jesus christ
[2017-01-04 22:37:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 31750 @ 1124.88
[2017-01-04 22:37:31] BTCDJS : EUPHORIA
[2017-01-04 22:37:43] Milkman : new high china
[2017-01-04 22:37:43] justinlooking : XBCH17 over 9000!
[2017-01-04 22:37:45] Milkman : here we go again
[2017-01-04 22:37:57] Milkman : that was me justinlooking. only place i can get in a long
[2017-01-04 22:38:01] rapidtrades : if u have to spam, at least spam Are we there yet
[2017-01-04 22:38:09] gustavo7 : LIFTOFF
[2017-01-04 22:38:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1125.94
[2017-01-04 22:38:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 81458 @ 1126.54 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-04 22:38:12] dodic : lol... 1174
[2017-01-04 22:38:33] Gr33d : <3 ty
[2017-01-04 22:38:37] dodic : i mean 1175.98...
[2017-01-04 22:38:37] Milkman : wish i didnt close my xbth17 long
[2017-01-04 22:38:41] Milkman : that shit is crazy
[2017-01-04 22:38:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60 @ 1132.32
[2017-01-04 22:38:49] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 135044 @ 1131.11 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-04 22:38:56] dodic : oh my