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[2017-01-04 17:12:03] PARAFFIN : haahah
[2017-01-04 17:12:05] PARAFFIN : hahaah
[2017-01-04 17:12:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1103.47
[2017-01-04 17:12:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 150 @ 1103.42
[2017-01-04 17:12:07] rowrow : hoooly shit
[2017-01-04 17:12:08] sleger : 8000
[2017-01-04 17:12:13] CaptainDean : 1175 ???
[2017-01-04 17:12:13] Derreck : wat
[2017-01-04 17:12:21] thomaskikansha : WTF
[2017-01-04 17:12:24] CaptainDean : LOL
[2017-01-04 17:12:26] imapotato : 8000 BTFO
[2017-01-04 17:12:27] imapotato : gg no re
[2017-01-04 17:12:29] rustiv : best bubble ever
[2017-01-04 17:12:29] rowrow : was that real?
[2017-01-04 17:12:35] Milkman : 10k next stop
[2017-01-04 17:12:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2960 @ 1107.19
[2017-01-04 17:12:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 40 @ 1107.32
[2017-01-04 17:12:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 4000 @ 1211.72
[2017-01-04 17:12:47] CaptainDean : bots area freaking out
[2017-01-04 17:12:48] B_Guy : WOW
[2017-01-04 17:12:50] rustiv : here we go
[2017-01-04 17:12:52] imapotato : Holy premium on XBTH17
[2017-01-04 17:12:54] ayy_lmao : LMAO
[2017-01-04 17:12:59] imapotato : 8025
[2017-01-04 17:13:07] justinlooking : 8065!
[2017-01-04 17:13:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 37 @ 1111.72
[2017-01-04 17:13:08] Milkman : 8100
[2017-01-04 17:13:11] imapotato : lolololo
[2017-01-04 17:13:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 16100 @ 1113.72
[2017-01-04 17:13:19] rowrow : i walk away for 45 fucking seconds and the world goes crazy
[2017-01-04 17:13:21] imapotato : $1120 finex
[2017-01-04 17:13:23] imapotato : holy crap
[2017-01-04 17:13:34] MrRGnome : This is gentlemen.
[2017-01-04 17:13:41] Derreck : thats gross
[2017-01-04 17:13:42] imapotato : >997.07% ROE
[2017-01-04 17:13:45] 24hourz : This is gentlemen
[2017-01-04 17:13:47] ayy_lmao : loool
[2017-01-04 17:13:48] Milkman : lol wow
[2017-01-04 17:13:49] ayy_lmao : nice dude
[2017-01-04 17:13:49] Milkman : laggg
[2017-01-04 17:13:54] Derreck : imapotato: 85% here
[2017-01-04 17:13:57] rowrow : anyone know how big the liquidation was?
[2017-01-04 17:14:01] sleger : time to go short
[2017-01-04 17:14:23] arbitrage001 : run out of money to short ..
[2017-01-04 17:14:42] imapotato : never short btc
[2017-01-04 17:14:59] imapotato : jesus
[2017-01-04 17:15:01] imapotato : 8100 hoobi
[2017-01-04 17:15:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3212 @ 1118.88
[2017-01-04 17:15:21] jung1 : hello milionaires
[2017-01-04 17:15:21] Derreck : btc is making history here
[2017-01-04 17:15:29] elmorte : jung1: :)
[2017-01-04 17:15:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 600 @ 0.004250
[2017-01-04 17:15:43] jung1 : https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Bitcoin#TIMESERIES
[2017-01-04 17:15:49] Milkman : xbth17 is a mess
[2017-01-04 17:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4750 @ 1121.88
[2017-01-04 17:15:58] jung1 : if google treds is indicator we just started
[2017-01-04 17:16:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 24490 @ 1121.91
[2017-01-04 17:16:10] jung1 : funny that altcoins still going up as well
[2017-01-04 17:16:11] BTCDJS : sleger: ^^^
[2017-01-04 17:16:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 112723 @ 1123.28 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-04 17:16:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8000 @ 1123.39
[2017-01-04 17:16:20] imapotato : $105 quarterly premium, lol
[2017-01-04 17:16:24] imapotato : holy fucking rekts
[2017-01-04 17:16:33] jung1 : who the fuck shorts now
[2017-01-04 17:16:49] jung1 : 110000 short
[2017-01-04 17:16:51] jung1 : wut
[2017-01-04 17:16:55] BTCDJS : jung1: noobs listening to sleger but going 100x
[2017-01-04 17:17:07] jung1 : thank you sleger!
[2017-01-04 17:17:19] ayy_lmao : did sledger short?
[2017-01-04 17:17:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 500 @ 1129.93
[2017-01-04 17:17:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8000 @ 1127.66
[2017-01-04 17:17:35] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 600 @ 1129.52
[2017-01-04 17:17:36] BTCDJS : ayy_lmao: no he's said time to go short
[2017-01-04 17:17:46] BTCDJS : and noobs 100x it
[2017-01-04 17:17:53] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-04 17:17:54] arbitrage001 : market distortion all over the place
[2017-01-04 17:18:01] elmorte : 1234.56 heh
[2017-01-04 17:18:03] arbitrage001 : bitmex trade engine going to break
[2017-01-04 17:18:11] jung1 : no way
[2017-01-04 17:18:12] Milkman : 8300 cny
[2017-01-04 17:18:14] jung1 : bitmex ftw
[2017-01-04 17:18:16] elmorte : MMs gave up
[2017-01-04 17:18:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 1131.74
[2017-01-04 17:18:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 12500 @ 1130.45
[2017-01-04 17:18:18] imapotato : 1130 finex
[2017-01-04 17:18:21] imapotato : madness
[2017-01-04 17:18:31] jung1 : will we hit 2k in jan?
[2017-01-04 17:18:33] arbitrage001 : MM will run out of liquidity eventually
[2017-01-04 17:18:48] arbitrage001 : will need them to pigeon mail the usd
[2017-01-04 17:18:50] imapotato : We're going to go from 8000 to 9000 in like 15 minutes at this pace
[2017-01-04 17:18:52] deep : What happened?
[2017-01-04 17:19:01] jung1 : my bets are 2-2,5k until april and then down
[2017-01-04 17:19:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 130 @ 0.009540
[2017-01-04 17:19:07] deep : Amazing fireworks.....
[2017-01-04 17:19:17] jung1 : happy new years guys
[2017-01-04 17:19:21] imapotato : $40 to finex ATH
[2017-01-04 17:19:40] jung1 : dont spent it on drugs and hookers, well not all of them
[2017-01-04 17:20:49] Gekko : There will be blood
[2017-01-04 17:20:58] elmorte : Gekko: we said that at 960
[2017-01-04 17:21:13] jung1 : hope so
[2017-01-04 17:21:15] justinlooking : muh triples
[2017-01-04 17:21:17] jung1 : not lower?
[2017-01-04 17:21:21] anduck : trolol
[2017-01-04 17:21:26] anduck : insane
[2017-01-04 17:21:28] aaaaa : prepare stops
[2017-01-04 17:21:30] elmorte : jung1: well, 920 too :)
[2017-01-04 17:21:33] Gekko : No reason 960 won't trade ,today
[2017-01-04 17:21:54] imapotato : huobi continuing to push ATH
[2017-01-04 17:21:57] imapotato : 8200!
[2017-01-04 17:22:15] sleger : dump
[2017-01-04 17:22:23] B_Guy : Whats Huobi ATH ?
[2017-01-04 17:22:35] imapotato : B_Guy: Huobi ATH is 8205, right NOW
[2017-01-04 17:22:37] imapotato : was 8000
[2017-01-04 17:22:41] thomaskikansha : laggy
[2017-01-04 17:22:42] imapotato : 8242.15*
[2017-01-04 17:22:48] anduck : yes, they were 8000 and 7995
[2017-01-04 17:22:55] anduck : okcoin and huobi
[2017-01-04 17:22:59] miaoux : the bitmex prices are lagging the real prices ... bargain
[2017-01-04 17:23:03] anduck : woodchipper? i said OK COIN
[2017-01-04 17:23:10] tommygunn : sold some on that flash up insane
[2017-01-04 17:23:17] imapotato : 8320* huobi lolololo
[2017-01-04 17:23:22] imapotato : finex thinks it can pull back, but there's now ay
[2017-01-04 17:23:27] Gr33d : GG fiat
[2017-01-04 17:23:39] imapotato : rip USD 1913-2017
[2017-01-04 17:23:39] tommygunn : market 20 lower
[2017-01-04 17:23:49] BTCDJS : sleger: You being serious or you playing the opposite game?
[2017-01-04 17:24:26] Milkman : price went 8300 cny to 8008 cny lol @ that market dump on okcoin
[2017-01-04 17:24:36] tommygunn : possibly a gift for funding, we shall see
[2017-01-04 17:24:47] thomaskikansha : dat spread on swap
[2017-01-04 17:25:09] fineregex : is funding rate 0.375% the most bitmex is capable of imagining?
[2017-01-04 17:25:23] Milkman : 8265 cny just hit
[2017-01-04 17:25:23] imapotato : RIP liquidity, we're entering uncharted waters
[2017-01-04 17:25:31] tommygunn : it goes to shorts
[2017-01-04 17:25:39] chromaticcr1 : RIP hookers and blow fund
[2017-01-04 17:25:53] imapotato : I'm going to take a shower.
[2017-01-04 17:26:07] jung1 : so guys whats your bets on future price?
[2017-01-04 17:26:10] jung1 : any charts?
[2017-01-04 17:26:14] imapotato : jung1: $moon
[2017-01-04 17:26:22] jung1 : that make sense
[2017-01-04 17:26:26] arbitrage001 : they need to uncap the rate
[2017-01-04 17:26:30] fineregex : $500 tomorrow, $1million in year 2150
[2017-01-04 17:26:35] thomaskikansha : that stop loss order was epic...
[2017-01-04 17:26:37] arbitrage001 : jung1: been a while, how things go
[2017-01-04 17:26:42] imapotato : fineregex: believable
[2017-01-04 17:27:06] chester : need xmr, eth, ltc quarterly..
[2017-01-04 17:27:10] sleger : insurance fund will get destroyed because of cap on funding
[2017-01-04 17:27:20] arbitrage001 : yes
[2017-01-04 17:27:23] jung1 : arbitrage001: yeah still in game, had some greate meatings in bitcoin/blockchain fields. currently living in luxembourg
[2017-01-04 17:27:29] jung1 : live is good
[2017-01-04 17:27:30] jung1 : hehe
[2017-01-04 17:27:33] arbitrage001 : lower leverage and raise rate cap
[2017-01-04 17:27:54] arbitrage001 : jung1: must be doing well. i never attend blockchain meeting
[2017-01-04 17:27:58] justinlooking : cny could go over 9000!
[2017-01-04 17:28:03] fineregex : imapotato: see..
[2017-01-04 17:28:04] fineregex : .
[2017-01-04 17:28:19] Apocalyptic : justinlooking: not bad
[2017-01-04 17:28:20] imapotato : omg, I can't wait to say "it's over 9000"
[2017-01-04 17:28:31] jung1 : arbitrage001: you should. look for some on meetup.com
[2017-01-04 17:28:48] sleger : aethlios is watching the rocket from further and further away
[2017-01-04 17:28:55] arbitrage001 : for what reason? you see good opportunity on blockchain meeting?
[2017-01-04 17:29:02] sleger : unless he got margin called on his short H17
[2017-01-04 17:29:43] arbitrage001 : i am actually long h17 and short swap lol
[2017-01-04 17:29:45] jung1 : arbitrage001: and you? ngood trades? eth on short?
[2017-01-04 17:29:54] arbitrage001 : guess the bet paid off
[2017-01-04 17:29:58] imapotato : ugh too much profit
[2017-01-04 17:30:01] imapotato : brought me from 4x to 3x
[2017-01-04 17:30:40] arbitrage001 : jung1: still had some short in the low 700 lol
[2017-01-04 17:31:00] imapotato : Think it's safe to try realizing profits here? (sell contracts, buy back at same price)
[2017-01-04 17:31:23] wurstgelee : taking profits never rekt anyone
[2017-01-04 17:31:46] imapotato : Not "take", just realize and then reopen the same position
[2017-01-04 17:31:53] jung1 : arbitrage001: yeah a lot of great people and simply bitcoin talk with beer is awesome. I actually met antonopoulos , kravchenko from distributed lab/factom and plenty others
[2017-01-04 17:32:05] MrRGnome : imapotato: then that's not really realizing profits just feedin bitmex fees
[2017-01-04 17:32:25] sleger : no it is
[2017-01-04 17:32:28] arbitrage001 : jung1: is there really a purpose for meetup
[2017-01-04 17:32:29] sleger : you really know nothing
[2017-01-04 17:32:32] imapotato : MrRGnome: I'd do it as a maker, not taker. Negative fees.
[2017-01-04 17:32:45] imapotato : MrRGnome: It would move "Unrealised PNL" into "Wallet balance"
[2017-01-04 17:32:56] brojo : hey i just changed my risk limit to 300 xbt
[2017-01-04 17:33:00] MrRGnome : If you close a position then immediately reopen you aren't taking profit
[2017-01-04 17:33:00] brojo : what does that do to my current order
[2017-01-04 17:33:03] imapotato : Which I've been told is helpful for both Liq. price and deleverage queue position
[2017-01-04 17:33:04] MrRGnome : You are at best getting maker fees
[2017-01-04 17:33:07] brojo : i see it allows a max of 66.6%
[2017-01-04 17:33:13] sleger : MrRGnome: yes you are REALIZING profits, which is what he said
[2017-01-04 17:33:15] tommygunn : sold a little to cover funding
[2017-01-04 17:33:16] brojo : so i guess it adds more to my margin ----
[2017-01-04 17:33:21] sleger : it moves from UNrealise to realise
[2017-01-04 17:33:22] imapotato : MrRGnome: I already said that I'm realizing not, "taking"
[2017-01-04 17:33:26] tommygunn : insanity begins
[2017-01-04 17:33:27] kryptopojken : sooo laggy
[2017-01-04 17:34:17] MrRGnome : so "realizing" profit in your minds means not at all changing your postion or seeing any profit, but jumping in and out of it to update the bitmex UI
[2017-01-04 17:34:18] imapotato : screw it, I'm going to wait
[2017-01-04 17:34:24] MrRGnome : You guys are fucked.
[2017-01-04 17:34:32] sleger : MrRGnome: you dont understand jackshit
[2017-01-04 17:34:52] CaptainDean : I think i'm going to short now, this is going down for sure (NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT)
[2017-01-04 17:35:02] MrRGnome : Then help me understand, quantify the profit "realized" on a hypothetical position opend and closed
[2017-01-04 17:35:03] tommygunn : I went out for gas and coffee and were spiked up 80 bucks
[2017-01-04 17:35:11] CaptainDean : it's insane
[2017-01-04 17:35:17] CaptainDean : the bubble is still alive
[2017-01-04 17:35:50] CaptainDean : from 8000 to 8300 in 10 mins
[2017-01-04 17:36:05] CaptainDean : 20$ prenium at the moment
[2017-01-04 17:36:07] tommygunn : whom eva caught 1177 good on ya
[2017-01-04 17:36:11] CaptainDean : it's pretty high tho
[2017-01-04 17:36:32] imapotato : It's a $108 premium on quarterlies
[2017-01-04 17:36:35] Apocalyptic : no kidding
[2017-01-04 17:36:50] imapotato : tommygunn: I caught it with a very small order, just to bring myself back up to 4x
[2017-01-04 17:37:03] QuantFocus : swap has $20 premium
[2017-01-04 17:37:12] CaptainDean : i think i'm going to sell another coin real coon
[2017-01-04 17:37:18] CaptainDean : soon* sold my first one at 922$
[2017-01-04 17:37:28] thomaskikansha : short swap long futures will work
[2017-01-04 17:37:30] CaptainDean : and i was happy ;-)
[2017-01-04 17:37:34] imapotato : >XBTH17 1000 1166.67 1000
[2017-01-04 17:37:44] imapotato : oh, right. I was going to take a shower.
[2017-01-04 17:37:49] tommygunn : imapotato: nice
[2017-01-04 17:38:02] BTCDJS : perv
[2017-01-04 17:38:17] imapotato : If only my balls hadn't been castrated by two liquidations.
[2017-01-04 17:38:19] tommygunn : i was not prepared for up spikes yet, must change strat
[2017-01-04 17:38:34] JamesPolo : imapotato: right
[2017-01-04 17:38:48] tommygunn : even 100 spread is not safe
[2017-01-04 17:38:56] tommygunn : ahh the joys
[2017-01-04 17:39:33] imapotato : https://twitter.com/whalepool/status/816698939445485568
[2017-01-04 17:39:39] imapotato : >The #1 contract holder on OKCoin just got liquidated on a $10 million short position against #bitcoin
[2017-01-04 17:39:42] tommygunn : moved liq spread to 150
[2017-01-04 17:39:59] CaptainDean : that explain the spike !
[2017-01-04 17:40:02] QuantFocus : omg
[2017-01-04 17:40:15] tommygunn : imapotato: love it
[2017-01-04 17:40:24] rapidtrades : hahahahha
[2017-01-04 17:40:24] arbitrage001 : omg , chinese gambler!
[2017-01-04 17:40:29] tommygunn : that was the spike
[2017-01-04 17:40:29] rapidtrades : die shortie
[2017-01-04 17:40:37] jung1 : wtf
[2017-01-04 17:40:43] jung1 : 10.000btc
[2017-01-04 17:40:56] jung1 : ehhh amateurs
[2017-01-04 17:40:58] arbitrage001 : maybe he is long elsewhere, or a hedged position
[2017-01-04 17:41:03] tommygunn : nothing for a mega whale
[2017-01-04 17:41:20] jung1 : yeah but how many mega whales are on the market?
[2017-01-04 17:41:27] jung1 : like 10k<
[2017-01-04 17:41:32] jung1 : 8? 12?
[2017-01-04 17:41:33] arbitrage001 : hard to imagine okc has the liquidity for the whale
[2017-01-04 17:41:38] tommygunn : not true 10 mill hurts at any level
[2017-01-04 17:41:46] rapidtrades : that 10 mil was prolly a miner
[2017-01-04 17:41:54] arbitrage001 : could be
[2017-01-04 17:41:56] sleger : tommygunn: it's 10m position not collateral
[2017-01-04 17:42:19] tommygunn : sleger: you rock
[2017-01-04 17:42:22] gustavo7 : bam bam
[2017-01-04 17:42:24] arbitrage001 : got to hurt if it is miner, hedging went wrong
[2017-01-04 17:42:27] wurstgelee : time to pick a celebration drink
[2017-01-04 17:42:41] jung1 : cheers
[2017-01-04 17:42:43] arbitrage001 : and then btc price burst and cant sell the btc production later
[2017-01-04 17:43:16] wurstgelee : yeah, cheers everyone. if u made it this far, u deserve it (valid for those who survived 2015 bear market) ;)
[2017-01-04 17:43:20] tommygunn : that candle needs correcting at some point
[2017-01-04 17:43:34] sleger : 15$ premium + 8$ of funding in next 10hrs coming that's a lot for the swap
[2017-01-04 17:43:42] jung1 : you think that we are on bubble? Or its just start and it will hit 3k and then dump to 1k and it will be next floor as on previous pumps?
[2017-01-04 17:43:57] sleger : jung1: it wont do like LISK dont worry
[2017-01-04 17:43:57] tommygunn : sleger: could be pegged for a while
[2017-01-04 17:44:00] arbitrage001 : sleger: yes, problem is most shorty already run out of money to short
[2017-01-04 17:44:14] arbitrage001 : i suspect MM already hit their limit also
[2017-01-04 17:44:19] arbitrage001 : some MM
[2017-01-04 17:44:23] rapidtrades : arbitrage001: longs closing
[2017-01-04 17:44:36] jung1 : wurstgelee: biggest money you make when there is a blood on the markets
[2017-01-04 17:44:57] wurstgelee : yes ofc. i know that. also probably everyone else who is here for some time ;)
[2017-01-04 17:45:00] rapidtrades : dam deposit already here....i should've paid less
[2017-01-04 17:45:01] cookielito : buy when there is blood on the streets
[2017-01-04 17:45:03] cookielito : even if that blood is your own
[2017-01-04 17:45:05] tommygunn : just retweeted that whalepool notice
[2017-01-04 17:45:26] arbitrage001 : funding rate on finex also hit new high
[2017-01-04 17:45:28] tommygunn : wI am sure we have some members here
[2017-01-04 17:45:38] arbitrage001 : probably thx to funding rate here
[2017-01-04 17:45:39] wurstgelee : cookielito: buxying own blood makes sense....here. or at least made when we had DPE. ask sleger for further elaboration ;)
[2017-01-04 17:45:44] BTCDJS : Did 0kcoin get hacked?
[2017-01-04 17:45:46] BTC-Noob : what the heck was that flash candle to 1180
[2017-01-04 17:46:06] CaptainDean : MM gone
[2017-01-04 17:46:10] CaptainDean : looks like it
[2017-01-04 17:46:22] CaptainDean : Sell side and buy side went 50$ aside
[2017-01-04 17:46:25] jung1 : no way Im short it
[2017-01-04 17:46:25] arbitrage001 : let's petition to remove rate cap
[2017-01-04 17:46:26] imapotato : BTC-Noob: fomo and MM taking a break during turbulence
[2017-01-04 17:46:29] rapidtrades : did we hit 1180? charts don't show it
[2017-01-04 17:46:44] imapotato : rapidtrades: the wick, it's hard to see
[2017-01-04 17:46:48] tommygunn : BTC-Noob: most likely this forced close https://twitter.com/whalepool/status/816698939445485568
[2017-01-04 17:46:54] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: 1193 if I remember what I saw correctly
[2017-01-04 17:47:02] rapidtrades : looooool
[2017-01-04 17:47:04] thomaskikansha : probably the max leverage will be lowered for a higher funding cap
[2017-01-04 17:47:08] BTCDJS : on here tho
[2017-01-04 17:47:11] aaaaa : whaaaat
[2017-01-04 17:47:14] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: at 1177 for sure
[2017-01-04 17:47:20] rapidtrades : yeah bitmex get on that leverage cut
[2017-01-04 17:47:23] BTCDJS : during all the flashing and excitement
[2017-01-04 17:47:23] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: least*
[2017-01-04 17:47:26] rapidtrades : this is gettng redic
[2017-01-04 17:47:31] arbitrage001 : lowering leverage from 100 to 50 is non issue lol
[2017-01-04 17:47:39] rapidtrades : lower the leverage
[2017-01-04 17:47:46] alejandromasari : do I have toay funding if I am not using any leverage for swap?
[2017-01-04 17:47:49] arbitrage001 : people cant not survive 50x, 100x is just marketing jargon
[2017-01-04 17:47:57] imapotato : ok, I'm going to actually go take that shower. Looks like we're going to pull back down a bit.
[2017-01-04 17:47:59] imapotato : Cheers
[2017-01-04 17:47:59] alejandromasari : do I have to pay funding if I am not using any leverage for swap?
[2017-01-04 17:48:07] MrRGnome : alejandromasari: es
[2017-01-04 17:48:10] MrRGnome : *yes
[2017-01-04 17:48:12] rapidtrades : it's not keeping the swap inline naymore
[2017-01-04 17:48:25] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: Yes, if you are buying the swap you pay or receive funding irrespective or your leverage
[2017-01-04 17:48:29] BTC-Noob : tommygunn: loll rip that guy haha, thanks btw
[2017-01-04 17:49:19] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you still short mate?
[2017-01-04 17:50:10] rowrow : i think half the shorters are dead by now
[2017-01-04 17:50:42] tommygunn : rowrow: 1/2 now 1/2 later
[2017-01-04 17:50:43] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: swap being off market will hit the insurance fund
[2017-01-04 17:50:58] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: thx
[2017-01-04 17:51:01] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: How do you mean
[2017-01-04 17:51:18] alejandromasari : I am starting to use the xbth17 I like it
[2017-01-04 17:51:23] rowrow : so longers pay more than shorters receive?
[2017-01-04 17:51:29] sleger : BitMEX_Greg: liquidations happen at mark, but swap is trading way above mark, so that takes money from the insurance fund
[2017-01-04 17:51:36] arbitrage001 : sleger is miles ahead on how things work
[2017-01-04 17:51:49] tommygunn : well we reached my 1150 target way to fast, 1200?
[2017-01-04 17:52:06] MrRGnome : arbitrage001: He likes to think he is, but he really isn't.
[2017-01-04 17:52:28] BitMEX_Greg : sleger: Right, if liquidations occur then funds are spent to aggress them otherwise delev will occur
[2017-01-04 17:53:10] sleger : MrRGnome: and you are clearly miles behind
[2017-01-04 17:53:25] tommygunn : 163.1727 XBT in fund
[2017-01-04 17:53:31] thomaskikansha : sleger: the funding is not high enough to push market price back to mark? If I am wrong
[2017-01-04 17:53:32] MrRGnome : sleger: keep opening closing and opening positions because you're afraid of the adl boogeyman.
[2017-01-04 17:53:39] sleger : thomaskikansha: thats correct
[2017-01-04 17:54:08] Kalman : what happend tothe fund 11/24 ?
[2017-01-04 17:54:10] sleger : thomaskikansha: funding cap is dictated by the rules and current max leverage, at 100x that is 0.375% per 8 hours
[2017-01-04 17:54:20] sleger : Kalman: zec rekt
[2017-01-04 17:54:50] Kalman : oh, now i see that are my btc
[2017-01-04 17:54:58] Kalman : thx
[2017-01-04 17:56:12] thomaskikansha : sleger: so a higher funding would be an incentive for ppl to sell swap towards to mark?
[2017-01-04 17:56:21] sleger : thomaskikansha: yes
[2017-01-04 17:56:31] shiroe : so much profit in the aairr, ye hey
[2017-01-04 17:56:35] BTC-Noob : hey guys do anyone know what this mark price mean? and if i sell will that be based on mark price then?
[2017-01-04 17:56:36] sleger : but can only happen if they lower leverage or change other rule
[2017-01-04 17:56:54] BTCDJS : Bollinger says this is going higher lol
[2017-01-04 17:57:12] elmorte : thomaskikansha: correct...or hold long less
[2017-01-04 17:58:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 250 @ 1230.14
[2017-01-04 17:58:16] MrRGnome : BTC-Noob: mark price is used for calculating forced liquidations and funding rate, as well as all the estimates you see on your dashboard. It isn't the price you get if you trade, you need to look a tthe orderbook to see what price you'd get
[2017-01-04 17:58:55] BTC-Noob : oke perfect that makes sense. Thankx buddy
[2017-01-04 17:59:22] rapidtrades : $16 premium?
[2017-01-04 17:59:26] anonymous123421 : BTCC is hitting all time high!
[2017-01-04 17:59:33] rapidtrades : bitmex are u gonna act or just watch
[2017-01-04 17:59:45] anonymous123421 : https://bitcoinity.org/markets/btcchina/CNY
[2017-01-04 17:59:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1338 @ 1135.61
[2017-01-04 18:00:14] rapidtrades : wtf was that
[2017-01-04 18:00:25] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: If they acted it would probably upset as many people as not acting will. They are in a no win situation.
[2017-01-04 18:00:34] CaptainDean : we are not a big volume move tho
[2017-01-04 18:00:46] rapidtrades : why did it reload like that,,,it usually does that on funding
[2017-01-04 18:00:47] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1 @ 1135.67 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-04 18:01:04] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: my order filled below my limit price!!
[2017-01-04 18:01:30] CaptainDean : in a big***
[2017-01-04 18:01:37] gustavo7 : it probably didn't
[2017-01-04 18:02:10] BitMEX_Sam : alejandromasari: We are not seeing that - are you looking at your entry price?
[2017-01-04 18:02:14] sleger : china 64$ above
[2017-01-04 18:02:27] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: not rly, the cut will only affect new positions
[2017-01-04 18:02:35] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: it filled one penny under my limiit price
[2017-01-04 18:02:39] jung1 : BITMEX will be goldman sachs for bitcoin in few years
[2017-01-04 18:02:41] anonymous123421 : I love china
[2017-01-04 18:02:56] BitMEX_Sam : alejandromasari: That may have been a notification bug, the prices check out in the history
[2017-01-04 18:03:23] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: are those freezing order books and insane lags during more active times fixed now? :/
[2017-01-04 18:03:24] Apocalyptic : jung1: GS is not an exchange
[2017-01-04 18:03:26] sleger : thats the rounding bug
[2017-01-04 18:03:34] BitMEX_Sam : wurstgelee: We're working on it
[2017-01-04 18:03:39] MrRGnome : rapidtrades: cut to what, leverage? Isn't that going to change the funding rate? That would affect everyone
[2017-01-04 18:03:45] rapidtrades : look at this giant daily candle man
[2017-01-04 18:03:46] sleger : as soon as 500 users are liquidated it will be fast again
[2017-01-04 18:03:49] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: as in "not yet". thanks for update tho ;)
[2017-01-04 18:04:02] rapidtrades : MrRGnome: it should affect everyone man, we're 18 above spot
[2017-01-04 18:04:15] rapidtrades : TIME TO CUT SOME FOMO G
[2017-01-04 18:04:21] rapidtrades : LEGS*
[2017-01-04 18:04:24] MrRGnome : sure and you can advocate for that change, but because it affects everyone I imagine some people would be pissed
[2017-01-04 18:04:27] arbitrage001 : yes
[2017-01-04 18:04:36] MrRGnome : It would be great for me if funding became uncapped
[2017-01-04 18:04:36] arbitrage001 : a lot of shorty will get rekt
[2017-01-04 18:05:04] j8 : MrRGnome: it will affect everyone more if nothing changes (longs will be deleveraged, swap totally unhinged from spot)
[2017-01-04 18:05:25] sleger : when the market is broken everyone wants it fixed
[2017-01-04 18:05:26] arbitrage001 : making the swap product meaningless
[2017-01-04 18:05:30] sleger : gnome doesnt understand much
[2017-01-04 18:05:36] MrRGnome : sleger: lol
[2017-01-04 18:05:43] j8 : once people realize they can short, get liquidated and short higher.. it's free money out of the insurance fund
[2017-01-04 18:05:51] MrRGnome : sleger: I think what you don't understand is that there are traders this change would benefit, others it won't.
[2017-01-04 18:06:00] sleger : listen to everyone dummy
[2017-01-04 18:06:05] MrRGnome : That puts bitmex in a hard spot
[2017-01-04 18:06:17] j8 : they've been in this spot before, and they reduced the leverage
[2017-01-04 18:06:19] ayy_lmao : lmao small position of mine got liquidated bc of mark price
[2017-01-04 18:06:21] j8 : that's called a precident
[2017-01-04 18:06:22] ayy_lmao : was long
[2017-01-04 18:06:22] rapidtrades : this is crazy
[2017-01-04 18:06:22] sleger : the smart people are explaining you
[2017-01-04 18:06:46] brouk : BitMEX_Sam: What happens to my long position when I have 0 account balance to pay funding?
[2017-01-04 18:06:47] rowrow : it's taken me four hours to eat my breakfast, too much action
[2017-01-04 18:06:49] jung1 : sleger: how are your trades going?
[2017-01-04 18:06:49] MrRGnome : Well you don't need to convince me
[2017-01-04 18:07:01] sleger : jung1: very well thanks, how is lisk ?
[2017-01-04 18:07:06] CaptainDean : wow
[2017-01-04 18:07:09] CaptainDean : another 150
[2017-01-04 18:07:10] MrRGnome : I'm all for reducing leverage. I'm just saying it's a tough position for bitmex to be in precident or not.
[2017-01-04 18:07:13] CaptainDean : and i wasn't looking
[2017-01-04 18:07:14] CaptainDean : LOL
[2017-01-04 18:07:17] brojo : brouk: i believe it just comes from your margin --- if your long your probably up and should be fine
[2017-01-04 18:07:20] alejandromasari : 17 dollars to gold parity
[2017-01-04 18:07:23] sleger : MrRGnome: its not the first time
[2017-01-04 18:07:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3558 @ 1142.36
[2017-01-04 18:07:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15 @ 1144.53
[2017-01-04 18:07:34] REKT : Gentlemen, we have an eREKTion!
[2017-01-04 18:07:34] sleger : they have already played with leverage in similar cases
[2017-01-04 18:07:37] rowrow : reducing from 100x leverage to 25x probably wouldn't do much in terms of big liquidations
[2017-01-04 18:07:40] jung1 : sleger: I told you that Im out of this on plus, but still around ico price as I saw
[2017-01-04 18:07:48] MrRGnome : If I recall the there has been pretty mixed success in changing contract details and the resulting public reaction.
[2017-01-04 18:07:53] rapidtrades : wel thanks for draining the fund bitmex
[2017-01-04 18:08:03] rapidtrades : like it wasn't low enough
[2017-01-04 18:08:06] rowrow : the highest leverages get liquidated so fast they don't effect much (if the price moves the wrong way)
[2017-01-04 18:08:25] lockhedge : j8: iirc in June they waited for a small correction before they increased the funding cap (so nobody got instantly rekt because of this change)
[2017-01-04 18:08:36] rowrow : what was it before?
[2017-01-04 18:08:51] CaptainDean : we are spiking wayyy to fast now
[2017-01-04 18:08:54] jung1 : BITMEX FTW im so happy that I have 20% aff comission is so early stage
[2017-01-04 18:09:02] jung1 : feels lika shareholder hehe
[2017-01-04 18:09:37] gustavo7 : i whish they would bring back XBU
[2017-01-04 18:09:52] tommygunn : CaptainDean: what you taking about
[2017-01-04 18:09:59] BitMEX_Wally : gustavo7: XBTUSD and XBTH17 are inverse futures just like XBU
[2017-01-04 18:10:08] WarWarBanana : bitmex just closed my long position?
[2017-01-04 18:10:08] sleger : 71$ premium china
[2017-01-04 18:10:22] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: how much is left in the swap insurance fund ?
[2017-01-04 18:10:23] CaptainDean : tommygunn: i'm saying the price is now going way up tooo fast, huge bubble
[2017-01-04 18:10:28] ayy_lmao : suprised bitmex doenst prevent you from raising position above mark liquidation price
[2017-01-04 18:10:47] tommygunn : CaptainDean: you mean like the last 2 weeks fast or even faster
[2017-01-04 18:10:48] BitMEX_Greg : WarWarBanana: Check your Trade History
[2017-01-04 18:10:48] rapidtrades : sleger:about $3.50
[2017-01-04 18:10:50] rowrow : WarWarBanana: were you super-high leverage? price just dropped $7
[2017-01-04 18:10:58] CaptainDean : tommygunn: yeah
[2017-01-04 18:11:05] tommygunn : CaptainDean: you rock
[2017-01-04 18:11:21] RocketScience : why was mark 1235 on xbtusd march 31? bid didn't go below 1240
[2017-01-04 18:11:24] y1uy : btccny to 8888
[2017-01-04 18:11:29] Dynamix : Damn I have not seen this chat :))
[2017-01-04 18:11:31] Gr33d : CaptainDean: Ah, I heard that in2013 xD
[2017-01-04 18:11:33] Dynamix : Been here for a month
[2017-01-04 18:11:39] CaptainDean : Gr33d: hahaha :D
[2017-01-04 18:11:46] rapidtrades : we're going parabolic now, this shit won't last much longer, few days tops
[2017-01-04 18:11:53] WarWarBanana : XBTUSD 12000 1135.92 5469 1135.93 Limit Canceled Jan 4, 2017, 6:43:13 PM
[2017-01-04 18:11:56] Dynamix : What do you think about btc ?
[2017-01-04 18:11:56] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: yeah i aggree !
[2017-01-04 18:11:57] y1uy : how do i change my username
[2017-01-04 18:11:57] y1uy : here?
[2017-01-04 18:12:06] jung1 : rapidtrades: when you are going to rebuy?
[2017-01-04 18:12:12] rowrow : if volatility goes up to former bitcoin levels, this site is gonna be insane with the leverage
[2017-01-04 18:12:16] rapidtrades : never @jung1
[2017-01-04 18:12:17] CaptainDean : rapidtrades: logarythmic ? not sure it can be say in english like that
[2017-01-04 18:12:35] imapotato : rapidtrades: a few days is a few hundred % increase when we go parabolic
[2017-01-04 18:12:50] rapidtrades : it's almost 40% crash after
[2017-01-04 18:12:55] CaptainDean : Micmix called the XBTh17 @ 967 as a nice low introduction and I didn't do in
[2017-01-04 18:12:56] j8 : logarithmic growth is not exciting
[2017-01-04 18:13:03] shiroe : Stop limit! :)
[2017-01-04 18:13:05] rapidtrades : does it come now, or 2 days alter
[2017-01-04 18:13:05] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: what are the odds we go to 1800?
[2017-01-04 18:13:10] trestres : to bitmex staff, have you in program to increase funding cap or/and deverelage?
[2017-01-04 18:13:11] gustavo7 : BitMEX_Wally: oh cool, was away some months
[2017-01-04 18:13:11] rapidtrades : u take the gamble
[2017-01-04 18:13:20] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: 33%?
[2017-01-04 18:13:23] CaptainDean : go in*
[2017-01-04 18:13:42] gustavo7 : maybe i also asked this question in fall when i played with ETH, good to know anyway
[2017-01-04 18:13:45] CaptainDean : 967 => 1153 insane
[2017-01-04 18:13:53] imapotato : Brakes? Where we're going, we won't need any brakes.
[2017-01-04 18:13:56] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: got that straight out of your ass again huh?
[2017-01-04 18:14:04] rapidtrades : always do :)
[2017-01-04 18:14:07] tommygunn : just remember this run, good for chit chat later on when none will believe you
[2017-01-04 18:14:17] CaptainDean : tommygunn: hahah :D
[2017-01-04 18:14:26] rowrow : up like 1% per hour
[2017-01-04 18:14:34] CaptainDean : I am a bit ashame ... I made 0 trading during the last 3-4 weeks
[2017-01-04 18:14:36] arbitrage001 : rowrow: yes
[2017-01-04 18:14:44] arbitrage001 : who would have thought getting rich is this easy
[2017-01-04 18:14:52] arbitrage001 : just buy the dip !
[2017-01-04 18:14:56] BitMEX_Wally : WarWarBanana: Your position was closed because you had a Stop order to sell that was triggered
[2017-01-04 18:14:56] CaptainDean : more then that, 25 Nov my last one
[2017-01-04 18:14:57] rowrow : ez pz
[2017-01-04 18:15:38] WarWarBanana : Ah by bad BitMEX_Wally, thanks for clarifying.
[2017-01-04 18:16:16] BitMEX_Greg : WarWarBanana: Please check your trade history in the account section as this will explain how trades were opened or closed etc
[2017-01-04 18:17:16] BitMEX_Wally : trestres: If the swap continues to trade at a 1% premium then we will announce a reduction in max leverage from 100x to 50x so the funding rate can increase
[2017-01-04 18:17:45] trestres : BitMEX_Wally: ok thank you
[2017-01-04 18:17:51] sleger : when would that be ?
[2017-01-04 18:18:51] Izakun : hi
[2017-01-04 18:19:06] Izakun : what is the minimum deposit to start trade ?
[2017-01-04 18:19:08] CaptainDean : nop more 100x fomo !
[2017-01-04 18:19:58] tommygunn : BitMEX_Wally: I like that idea
[2017-01-04 18:21:42] Apocalyptic : The Winklewii ETF is delayed again
[2017-01-04 18:21:51] BitMEX_Greg : Izakun: 0.0001 XBT
[2017-01-04 18:22:09] imapotato : BitMEX_Wally: profits keep reducing my overall leverage :(
[2017-01-04 18:22:49] sleger : imapotato: realise and reopen, just dont tell gnome about it he doesnt understand
[2017-01-04 18:22:58] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: They reduce your effective leverage yes, because unrealised PNL is part of the position margin
[2017-01-04 18:23:02] imapotato : sleger: lol
[2017-01-04 18:23:39] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: that makes it really hard to hold hedged positions, it's brutal with no rebalances
[2017-01-04 18:23:44] tommygunn : off to appointments keep up the good work
[2017-01-04 18:23:54] BitMEX_Wally : j8: We are working on unlocking the unrealised PNL when you re-adjust leverage
[2017-01-04 18:24:18] j8 : would be better if you don't have to babysit it
[2017-01-04 18:24:37] rowrow : BitMEX_Wally: what would the funding rate change to if leverage goes to 50x?
[2017-01-04 18:24:40] j8 : but i'll take what i can get
[2017-01-04 18:25:21] BitMEX_Greg : rowrow: It is the same irrespective of your leverage
[2017-01-04 18:25:26] MikeHunt : short?
[2017-01-04 18:25:30] MikeHunt : bot fuzz i see
[2017-01-04 18:25:40] rowrow : BitMEX_Greg: i mean if the max rate were changed to 50x, what would the max funding rate change to
[2017-01-04 18:25:45] lockhedge : rowrow: 1.125%
[2017-01-04 18:25:50] justinlooking : presumably halving max leverage would allowing doubling the funding rate cap.
[2017-01-04 18:26:17] fineregex : funding rate cap =?
[2017-01-04 18:26:55] justinlooking : +0.375% /8hr is upper limit (ie where it is now)
[2017-01-04 18:27:22] BitMEX_Greg : rowrow: Ah sorry, I need to check with Wally, but presumably 0.75% (i.e. 2* the current rate)