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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-01-04 06:24:25] brojo : which one of those columns is the real cost paid [2017-01-04 06:24:28] brojo : in fees [2017-01-04 06:24:33] brojo : the execcomm? [2017-01-04 06:24:35] j8 : execComm is [2017-01-04 06:24:39] j8 : it's in satoshis [2017-01-04 06:24:51] brojo : 45978665 is what ive done in 48 hours [2017-01-04 06:24:51] odieoh : Relative to the size of their economy, bitcoin is a raindrop. We'll see. [2017-01-04 06:25:14] brojo : thats 4.5 btc or .45 [2017-01-04 06:25:27] j8 : `execComm = round(execCost * commission)` [2017-01-04 06:25:31] Rado2 : .45 [2017-01-04 06:25:41] MikeHunt : odieoh: economy - debt = not good [2017-01-04 06:25:52] MikeHunt : 330% debt to gbp [2017-01-04 06:25:56] MikeHunt : gdp [2017-01-04 06:26:01] brojo : so about $450 in 48 hours [2017-01-04 06:26:12] MikeHunt : brojo: probably $600 [2017-01-04 06:26:22] MikeHunt : -> $900 [2017-01-04 06:26:36] odieoh : Oh I'm not arguing that their economy is in great shape, I just don't think BTC is on the radar yet (we're talking china, right?) [2017-01-04 06:26:40] MikeHunt : its gonna be a hard landing by looks of it [2017-01-04 06:27:03] MikeHunt : odieoh: well if they allow btc to flow capital out of the country it may grow out of their control [2017-01-04 06:27:15] MikeHunt : authoritarian countries usually act quickly in that manner [2017-01-04 06:27:55] odieoh : Yeah @mikehunt, but compared to the amount that is flowing out into real estate and other stuff. . .like I said, BTC is a drop in the bucket, and even that may be overstating it. [2017-01-04 06:28:43] Rado2 : Housing market in Vancouver is 800 bill [2017-01-04 06:28:47] MikeHunt : odieoh: the other stuff is easier to trace [2017-01-04 06:28:50] immackay : is the orderbook frozen again or is there nothing happening [2017-01-04 06:28:53] unicorns_rainbows : real estate is overvalued, nobody is buying. space is a better future [2017-01-04 06:29:25] Rado2 : unicorns_rainbows: tell this to Chinese buying properties here [2017-01-04 06:29:36] odieoh : Cuz how much of it is actually "flowing out" anyway- From what I understand, the Chinese love BTC as a way to gamble, and there's very little evidence that its actually being used as a way to preserve capital [2017-01-04 06:30:25] unicorns_rainbows : The chinese are gonna buy a shitload more property for pennies on the dollar once bitcoin moons. [2017-01-04 06:30:43] unicorns_rainbows : They will buy it with BTC that they already have. [2017-01-04 06:30:52] odieoh : The chinese don't care if real estate is overvalued, its a way to get out of their crappy currency [2017-01-04 06:31:08] laisee : Good thing we a real estate guy as Pres now, to sell lots of props to China ... /s [2017-01-04 06:31:18] alejandromasari : maybe vancouver mls agents will start accepting bitcoin for real estate lol [2017-01-04 06:31:54] odieoh : The chinese may be the very reason real estate is overvalued lol [2017-01-04 06:32:19] unicorns_rainbows : thats already happening in venzuela, its only a matter of time. I'm not selling land for fiat anytime soon, but maybe most people don't know that yet [2017-01-04 06:34:51] imapotato : Can I short real estate? [2017-01-04 06:37:43] imabeast : here comes the dippp [2017-01-04 06:39:14] imapotato : dip? [2017-01-04 06:39:23] imapotato : no brakes in the West, and a bull flag in China [2017-01-04 06:39:31] odieoh : You can kind of short real estate. Short REITs, [2017-01-04 06:39:42] laisee : elmorte: let me know ur g/hub handle [2017-01-04 06:39:43] Milkman : wish china would just break up and hit 8000 cny already [2017-01-04 06:40:20] MikeHunt : i dont think bubble will last more than a day or two [2017-01-04 06:40:23] MikeHunt : not without a correction [2017-01-04 06:40:25] Milkman : then whale puts 50,000 BTC buy wall at 8000 cny and continues pumping [2017-01-04 06:40:31] Milkman : good ol' power move [2017-01-04 06:40:56] MikeHunt : maybe i was right originally, this could scale to 80k [2017-01-04 06:41:03] MikeHunt : if china keeps buying [2017-01-04 06:41:09] MikeHunt : bots keep manipulating [2017-01-04 06:46:28] elmorte : laisee: elmorterage [2017-01-04 06:48:06] laisee : elmorte: https://github.com/laisee/rektbitmex/invitations [2017-01-04 06:48:23] MrRGnome : Just remember, people are going to take profit at some point. I know I am. If everyone does it at the same general time shit could go south fast. [2017-01-04 06:48:37] elmorte : laisee: cheers bud! [2017-01-04 06:49:06] alejandromasari : Rado2: 1080 by 11 am Ottawa time [2017-01-04 06:50:13] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: you suggesting shorting now? [2017-01-04 06:50:29] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: mike short but hedged also [2017-01-04 06:50:33] alejandromasari : just in case... [2017-01-04 06:50:40] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yarp [2017-01-04 06:50:52] MikeHunt : rocket swap ready [2017-01-04 06:50:58] laisee : elmorte: np. its pretty basic, let me know any issues. [2017-01-04 06:53:23] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: [2017-01-04 06:54:07] MrRGnome : MikeHunt: I'm suggesting watch out for the fall. I'm net long, but starting to profit take which involves a few shorts. I'm probably going to profit take through ~1500 usd and keep the other 3/4 of my coins [2017-01-04 06:55:04] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: yeh im doing that as well, using a leveraged long swap to pull it up every now and again [2017-01-04 06:56:28] MrRGnome : I like using shorts here to lock in a price for profit taking on my long term held coins, earn some interest, and hedge my risk against a flash crash. [2017-01-04 06:56:48] MrRGnome : So yeah, if your context can benefit from it, I would say short here. [2017-01-04 06:56:59] MrRGnome : Not really a statement about whether I think it's going up or down. [2017-01-04 06:57:27] nOgAnOo : heading down it looks like [2017-01-04 06:57:57] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: you going to leverage as it falls? [2017-01-04 06:58:07] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: im just curious about getting deleraged thou [2017-01-04 06:58:11] MrRGnome : Nope, no leverage in this bubble for me [2017-01-04 06:58:11] MikeHunt : if i did that [2017-01-04 06:58:47] MrRGnome : I'm strictly arbing and collecting interest to hedge my risk against a flash crash [2017-01-04 06:58:52] MrRGnome : and it's all 1x no leverage [2017-01-04 06:58:54] narnarfromnarnia : nOgAnOo: daily is a solid go to 1140 [2017-01-04 06:58:57] narnarfromnarnia : then to 880 [2017-01-04 06:59:18] nOgAnOo : that makes sense [2017-01-04 06:59:32] nOgAnOo : I shorted far to early.. got rekt 5 times [2017-01-04 06:59:35] nOgAnOo : now I'm back in trying again [2017-01-04 06:59:36] nOgAnOo : lol [2017-01-04 07:00:21] brojo : i see a bullish pennant on btc/cy [2017-01-04 07:00:24] narnarfromnarnia : the market makers see every trade and will liquidate you [2017-01-04 07:00:31] narnarfromnarnia : only way to beat is lower leverage and hodl [2017-01-04 07:00:36] brojo : bet we see 7777 soon [2017-01-04 07:01:43] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: where you shorting xbt or march? [2017-01-04 07:01:59] MikeHunt : swaps or march9 [2017-01-04 07:02:00] MikeHunt : * [2017-01-04 07:02:38] MrRGnome : swap where I can earn the funding rate [2017-01-04 07:03:52] imapotato : finex almost done eating $1060 [2017-01-04 07:04:08] imapotato : 60 coins to go [2017-01-04 07:04:28] MrRGnome : If ever the funding rate turns against me significantly, I'll just close the position - at a loss if necessary - and cash out the appropriate amount of BTC to fiat to equate to the profit taking I locked in with my short and keep riding the ride with the rest of my coins [2017-01-04 07:05:05] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: im currently shorting xbth17, that bad? [2017-01-04 07:05:32] MrRGnome : Nothings bad. Anything can be justified in a given context or trading strategy. [2017-01-04 07:05:34] nOgAnOo : 7.50 above spot [2017-01-04 07:05:39] nOgAnOo : Interesting [2017-01-04 07:05:56] MrRGnome : What's good and what's bad are relative to you, your risk tolerance, etc [2017-01-04 07:06:18] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: funding rate is for the insurance pot? [2017-01-04 07:06:47] MrRGnome : MikeHunt: No. Funding rate is a transfer between buyers and sellers of the contract. [2017-01-04 07:06:56] MrRGnome : If the funding rate is positive, shorts get paid by longs [2017-01-04 07:07:05] MrRGnome : if the funding rate is negative, longs get paid by shorts [2017-01-04 07:07:26] MrRGnome : The goal is to encourage market support or resistance appropriate to keep the market price close tot he mark price. [2017-01-04 07:07:41] MrRGnome : The funding rate changes the more the market price here deviates from mark [2017-01-04 07:08:01] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: so in a flash crash it could go a lot higher? [2017-01-04 07:08:07] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: https://www.youngresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/picking-up-nickels-in-front-of-a-steamroller.png [2017-01-04 07:08:12] alejandromasari : shorts be like... [2017-01-04 07:08:15] alejandromasari : ouch [2017-01-04 07:08:48] MrRGnome : In a flash crash, just like in a bull run now, you can expect significant mark and last traded price divergence. [2017-01-04 07:09:17] MrRGnome : Like right now it's 10 dollars higher here than the mark. As a result the next funding rate is almost as high as it can be [2017-01-04 07:11:49] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: i saw the funding rate flicker to 3.6% which is why i asked [2017-01-04 07:11:58] MikeHunt : it was very quick and then back [2017-01-04 07:12:15] MrRGnome : just hover over it [2017-01-04 07:12:26] MrRGnome : what you're seeing is the funding rate for the enxt period not this one [2017-01-04 07:12:43] MikeHunt : ahh i see [2017-01-04 07:15:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 1062.40 [2017-01-04 07:15:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2790 @ 1062.97 [2017-01-04 07:16:03] l3f : NO BRAKES [2017-01-04 07:16:10] l3f : straight to ATH [2017-01-04 07:16:36] imapotato : >never short btc [2017-01-04 07:16:41] imapotato : I'm going to bed with my 4x long. [2017-01-04 07:16:50] imapotato : Except now it's down to 3.6x because profit... [2017-01-04 07:17:16] brouk : 7700 cny broken [2017-01-04 07:17:40] imapotato : 1065 finex [2017-01-04 07:17:49] Milkman : 7777.77 incoming [2017-01-04 07:18:03] MrRGnome : 8888 is going to be the real magic number [2017-01-04 07:18:19] MrRGnome : chinese are either going to cash in or buy like never before [2017-01-04 07:18:33] imapotato : Maybe they'll just stick at 8888. [2017-01-04 07:18:42] imapotato : 100k sell wall at 8889 [2017-01-04 07:18:51] imapotato : 100k btc bid at 8887 [2017-01-04 07:18:54] nOgAnOo : lol [2017-01-04 07:19:00] MikeHunt : "In Chengdu the telephone number 8888-8888 was sold for a sum corresponding to USD $270,723." [2017-01-04 07:19:01] nOgAnOo : Chinese and their 8s [2017-01-04 07:19:02] MrRGnome : I'd be okay with that [2017-01-04 07:19:38] imapotato : "In the Internet, a couple pizzas were sold for 10,000 BTC." [2017-01-04 07:20:41] MikeHunt : 7 is unlucky [2017-01-04 07:20:46] MikeHunt : could be 7777 is drop point [2017-01-04 07:21:06] nOgAnOo : 8 dollars over mark [2017-01-04 07:22:08] Sheriff : Would you guys always recommend a stop market over a stop limit to be safe? [2017-01-04 07:22:51] l3f : China's waiting for 10k to break [2017-01-04 07:26:51] MikeHunt : its already nearing vertical [2017-01-04 07:26:57] MikeHunt : excellerating rapidly [2017-01-04 07:27:19] happy : You guys are amazing.. [2017-01-04 07:29:04] odieoh : I don't use any kind of stops. There can be huge brief spikes that activate your stops and fuck you [2017-01-04 07:30:27] immackay : watch it plummet in the next 24 hours [2017-01-04 07:30:33] odieoh : Lol I never knew that "gently caress" was forced into the chat; I thought everyone was just typing that and it was just part of the culture here [2017-01-04 07:30:57] immackay : odieoh: what? gently caress is part of the culture [2017-01-04 07:31:07] MikeHunt : odieoh: some words here are replaced with others [2017-01-04 07:31:10] immackay : didn't you get the fucking memo [2017-01-04 07:31:15] odieoh : Well right, but I didn't know it was FORCED culture [2017-01-04 07:31:27] MikeHunt : odieoh: chat censor/joke devs did [2017-01-04 07:31:36] immackay : odieoh: yeah I was trying to be sarcastic but it didn't work [2017-01-04 07:31:37] odieoh : now I have to try all the other words [2017-01-04 07:31:40] immackay : okcoin [2017-01-04 07:31:45] immackay : = ok coin [2017-01-04 07:31:54] odieoh : shit, fuck, bitch, whore, damn [2017-01-04 07:31:54] Gekko : Bloomberg just now " how long before Chinese authorities react to bitcoin" [2017-01-04 07:31:58] immackay : those are the two that I know of [2017-01-04 07:32:16] odieoh : aaah, I didn't know that's what the woodchipper was either [2017-01-04 07:32:49] odieoh : Well this has been very informative [2017-01-04 07:33:27] immackay : someone should get the mods to change bitstamp to bearstamp [2017-01-04 07:33:57] odieoh : why does the funding rate have to cap? To the MOON interest! [2017-01-04 07:35:29] alejandromasari : odieoh: same reason for no stops [2017-01-04 07:35:33] alejandromasari : odieoh: hedge [2017-01-04 07:36:02] odieoh : cap should be 1% then :) [2017-01-04 07:36:41] micmix : odieoh: funding rate is capped to avoid automatically liquidating all 100x positions when funding is charged [2017-01-04 07:36:51] micmix : has nothing to do with hedge [2017-01-04 07:38:00] micmix : if bitmex ever decides to reduce max leverage to 50x the cap will increase [2017-01-04 07:38:49] odieoh : I'd vote for that [2017-01-04 07:39:05] immackay : yeah that would limit my stupidity [2017-01-04 07:39:09] immackay : to 50x [2017-01-04 07:39:19] immackay : pro tip: don't be like me [2017-01-04 07:39:28] odieoh : I've had my moments [2017-01-04 07:39:51] immackay : throwing money away seems to be my specialty [2017-01-04 07:40:06] odieoh : Easy to do with crypto and poker [2017-01-04 07:40:17] immackay : yup [2017-01-04 07:40:53] odieoh : Ok time for me to go take a walk, watch my money for me will y'all? [2017-01-04 07:46:41] immackay : odieoh: if the past two weeks has taught me anything, you better kiss it goodbye [2017-01-04 07:49:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECH17`: buy 14 @ 0.047999 [2017-01-04 07:52:36] odieoh : whoa big spender got Rekt [2017-01-04 07:54:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 20000 @ 7996.9 [2017-01-04 07:54:47] happy : dop [2017-01-04 07:54:51] happy : drop [2017-01-04 08:03:24] immackay : all in short time [2017-01-04 08:03:53] happy : immackay: well, gl [2017-01-04 08:07:04] immackay : happy: I enjoy throwing away money [2017-01-04 08:07:29] happy : immackay: why not give it to me 0.0 [2017-01-04 08:07:32] happy : 3BMEX1PfGPWJkCaiGUz1jJ1Y3nJgu9YWiP [2017-01-04 08:07:48] immackay : but then I don't get to play :c [2017-01-04 08:08:26] narnarfromnarnia : how does a long get liq'd [2017-01-04 08:08:45] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: what? [2017-01-04 08:09:07] immackay : oh I see [2017-01-04 08:10:13] immackay : looks like they were probably playing with 100x and bought in at 8010-8024 [2017-01-04 08:12:37] immackay : does anyone else want to short with me? [2017-01-04 08:12:38] immackay : no? [2017-01-04 08:12:56] narnarfromnarnia : immackay: just go long 25x [2017-01-04 08:13:02] happy : I want to short with you, but I don't get any money [2017-01-04 08:13:42] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: nah man short 100x in the middle of a bull run [2017-01-04 08:13:43] immackay : trust me [2017-01-04 08:15:40] immackay : the bitcoin gods have told me that this is the top for today [2017-01-04 08:17:28] larrybanky1 : hi everyone [2017-01-04 08:17:42] immackay : guten tag [2017-01-04 08:18:05] odieoh : bon giorno [2017-01-04 08:18:37] Ahhere : 8000 is a great number guise [2017-01-04 08:19:10] nOgAnOo : K I'm finally in profit [2017-01-04 08:19:11] odieoh : I will look back on it fondly from 7000 [2017-01-04 08:19:26] nOgAnOo : kept scalping my short.. entry now 1066 [2017-01-04 08:19:38] happy : I will borrow money to buy @ 7000 [2017-01-04 08:19:48] nOgAnOo : Guise, don't believe the 8000 hype [2017-01-04 08:19:57] nOgAnOo : China will never make it [2017-01-04 08:20:00] nOgAnOo : =/ [2017-01-04 08:20:13] odieoh : did they not already? [2017-01-04 08:20:20] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: thanks for this tip so you say sell now!? [2017-01-04 08:20:24] odieoh : It hit 8000 here on bitmex [2017-01-04 08:20:33] nOgAnOo : Sorry I was joking [2017-01-04 08:20:34] nOgAnOo : I'm a newbie [2017-01-04 08:20:39] nOgAnOo : Don't listen to me!!! [2017-01-04 08:20:51] nOgAnOo : I am shorting but it is VERY dangerous [2017-01-04 08:20:54] nOgAnOo : every chart says it's going up [2017-01-04 08:20:55] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: china about to jump to 8014 [2017-01-04 08:22:11] nOgAnOo : But why is china sideways... :( [2017-01-04 08:22:37] immackay : odieoh: that's the three month future contract [2017-01-04 08:22:38] nOgAnOo : wtf [2017-01-04 08:22:48] nOgAnOo : my okcoin volume says 0 [2017-01-04 08:22:51] nOgAnOo : for the last 6 minutes [2017-01-04 08:22:54] nOgAnOo : ???? [2017-01-04 08:24:18] immackay : nOgAnOo: just add your entire balance to your margin [2017-01-04 08:24:25] immackay : pray to the bitcoin gods [2017-01-04 08:25:17] nOgAnOo : Jesus is my only God [2017-01-04 08:25:37] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: lol pray to them all [2017-01-04 08:25:37] immackay : well that's why you keep losing money then [2017-01-04 08:28:54] Ahhere : where can one trade ethusd on margin? [2017-01-04 08:29:35] immackay : Ahhere: here, polo, bittrex, I assume others [2017-01-04 08:29:51] brojo : polo you can only trade ethbtc on margin [2017-01-04 08:29:59] immackay : oh yeah [2017-01-04 08:30:07] immackay : not sure about bittrex either [2017-01-04 08:30:33] Naloxone : Ahhere: Bitfinex [2017-01-04 08:30:33] immackay : not sure where you'd be able to do that [2017-01-04 08:31:35] immackay : looks like kraken lets you get up to 3x leverage on ethusd [2017-01-04 08:32:25] Ahhere : i can get 3x on btc-e but need moar [2017-01-04 08:32:52] imabeast : zec looking to move [2017-01-04 08:32:53] imabeast : finally [2017-01-04 08:32:57] immackay : you trust btc-e? [2017-01-04 08:33:10] immackay : also did okcoin die [2017-01-04 08:33:30] Ahhere : immackay: haha yes I sent them money back in the day never had a problem bitfinex is also 3.3x [2017-01-04 08:33:54] happy : 1066 again [2017-01-04 08:34:06] happy : nOgAnOo: Do you want to short more? [2017-01-04 08:34:18] immackay : short it all [2017-01-04 08:34:24] nOgAnOo : I am trying to fill my short at 64 yet [2017-01-04 08:34:26] nOgAnOo : =/ [2017-01-04 08:35:35] happy : 64? [2017-01-04 08:35:48] immackay : Ahhere: I've heard reports of funky business going on there [2017-01-04 08:36:12] imabeast : need a flash crash btc [2017-01-04 08:36:32] moo : wut [2017-01-04 08:37:09] MikeHunt : immackay:apparently this will go to 8888 at least [2017-01-04 08:37:12] MikeHunt : its a chinese thing [2017-01-04 08:37:14] alejandromasari : zcash is the next crypto to pop [2017-01-04 08:37:19] alejandromasari : i called eth this weekend [2017-01-04 08:37:24] alejandromasari : now zcash [2017-01-04 08:37:30] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: imo they will all get raped when btc goes down [2017-01-04 08:37:30] alejandromasari : and monero will trend [2017-01-04 08:37:45] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: they will go up [2017-01-04 08:37:53] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: isnt monero pretty new though? [2017-01-04 08:38:04] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: 2014 [2017-01-04 08:38:31] MikeHunt : i noticed that XMR tanked as bitcoin corrected a bit [2017-01-04 08:38:37] MikeHunt : then promptly came back up [2017-01-04 08:38:45] Ahhere : MikeHunt: monero around for a bit with not much shilling or promotion present comment notwithstanding [2017-01-04 08:39:10] MikeHunt : im thinking it will drop during crash then come back up [2017-01-04 08:39:23] immackay : XMR is used on DNM so it's got a decent userbase protecting the price [2017-01-04 08:39:50] MikeHunt : immackay: i think it has a future but it might have speculating opportunities during btc crash [2017-01-04 08:39:58] MikeHunt : if it falls faster than btc [2017-01-04 08:40:03] immackay : true [2017-01-04 08:40:04] MikeHunt : and then rises faster afterwards [2017-01-04 08:40:19] immackay : I'm too lazy to keep up with the alts [2017-01-04 08:40:23] immackay : I probably should though [2017-01-04 08:40:28] Ahhere : yeah eth and or xmr I'm expecting to be the ltc of 2016 [2017-01-04 08:40:40] Ahhere : doh 2017 [2017-01-04 08:40:42] immackay : why not both? [2017-01-04 08:40:53] Ahhere : and or I'm betting on both [2017-01-04 08:41:02] immackay : same [2017-01-04 08:41:05] brojo : okcoin feed not working [2017-01-04 08:41:09] brojo : i wonder if thats affecting the price on here [2017-01-04 08:41:18] brojo : the o-kaycoin [2017-01-04 08:41:35] immackay : brojo: yeah it seems to have buggered off for a drink or something [2017-01-04 08:41:43] immackay : speaking of that [2017-01-04 08:41:50] nOgAnOo : Yeah, anyone know of any other good charts? [2017-01-04 08:42:05] nOgAnOo : *scratches head* [2017-01-04 08:42:53] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: i'd just go long [2017-01-04 08:42:58] MikeHunt : this is going up to 80k [2017-01-04 08:43:05] MikeHunt : anywhere between 8k and there [2017-01-04 08:43:10] immackay : nOgAnOo: i just switch between all the big exchanges [2017-01-04 08:43:22] immackay : MikeHunt: so all in short you say? [2017-01-04 08:43:34] nOgAnOo : hoping to get filled at 1064.11 [2017-01-04 08:43:43] nOgAnOo : would be decent profit then [2017-01-04 08:43:52] MikeHunt : immackay: i have made some shorting its just very time consuming and im fucking tired [2017-01-04 08:44:00] Naloxone : nOgAnOo: https://cryptowat.ch [2017-01-04 08:44:16] nOgAnOo : Awesome! Thanks man [2017-01-04 08:45:04] alejandromasari : nOgAnOo: how many [2017-01-04 08:45:09] immackay : nOgAnOo: also coinigy or tradingview [2017-01-04 08:45:31] immackay : coinigy is nice but 'tis only a 30 day free trial [2017-01-04 08:49:11] cryptomad : I want some dump. [2017-01-04 08:49:46] Naloxone : ETH 0.1! [2017-01-04 08:49:54] Naloxone : *0.01 [2017-01-04 08:49:56] MikeHunt : i think its going to go ath/parabollic b4 we see dump [2017-01-04 08:50:05] happy : Naloxone: Did you mean 0.01 [2017-01-04 08:50:38] Naloxone : happy: i did.0.1 is the future [2017-01-04 08:50:57] happy : Do you guys have any Bitcoins price alarm? [2017-01-04 08:53:14] brojo : yes [2017-01-04 08:53:24] brojo : use tradingview and u can set also on here too i think [2017-01-04 08:53:41] brojo : something messed up with the pricing of xbcch17 [2017-01-04 08:53:49] brojo : i think the okcoin feed is down [2017-01-04 08:53:56] brojo : it seems like orderbook is frozen [2017-01-04 08:54:05] brojo : is that just me? [2017-01-04 08:54:31] MikeHunt : brojo: ive found browsers to be real buggy with chart stuff [2017-01-04 08:54:34] dodic : looks live to me [2017-01-04 08:54:46] MikeHunt : brojo: chrome doesnt like bitcoinwisdom but firefox can be buggy on here [2017-01-04 08:57:20] immackay : MikeHunt: chrome doesn't like bitcoinwisdom? [2017-01-04 08:57:25] immackay : that explains a lot [2017-01-04 08:57:34] immackay : if only there was a browser that didn't suck [2017-01-04 08:57:55] immackay : I need like a lightweight firefox [2017-01-04 08:58:12] Milkman : here comes the dump [2017-01-04 08:58:50] immackay : Milkman: nah I think the dump is over now [2017-01-04 08:58:56] immackay : all in long [2017-01-04 08:59:05] Milkman : good luck with that [2017-01-04 08:59:27] Milkman : record amount of contracts for xbth17 [2017-01-04 08:59:29] Milkman : this wont end well [2017-01-04 08:59:32] moo : okcoin hacked? looks weird [2017-01-04 08:59:47] Milkman : $70 premium [2017-01-04 08:59:50] immackay : why is bearstamp not dumping along with the rest of us [2017-01-04 08:59:54] immackay : what is this [2017-01-04 09:00:17] happy : X [2017-01-04 09:00:25] happy : no money in account, should prepared [2017-01-04 09:00:34] immackay : okcoin back and is dumping [2017-01-04 09:00:54] QuantFocus : they switched to dump bots [2017-01-04 09:01:49] QuantFocus : or.... [2017-01-04 09:02:03] QuantFocus : double pump [2017-01-04 09:02:35] cryptomad : There is big dump coming soon..!! [2017-01-04 09:02:55] cryptomad : 1055.!! [2017-01-04 09:03:38] immackay : QuantFocus: yeah, they had to switch out their market movers [2017-01-04 09:03:46] Milkman : ah china bots recovering price [2017-01-04 09:03:54] Milkman : trying at least [2017-01-04 09:04:03] MikeHunt : not a big dump [2017-01-04 09:04:09] MikeHunt : fucking it into a triangle [2017-01-04 09:04:12] MikeHunt : to push up again [2017-01-04 09:04:43] immackay : "bitcoin never retraces" - the legacy of @rapidtrades [2017-01-04 09:04:58] QuantFocus : trollin [2017-01-04 09:05:17] MikeHunt : ive learned this from trying to short it, it always finds a way up [2017-01-04 09:05:52] immackay : MikeHunt: i'll have you know I made a cool 0.0014 xbt off my short [2017-01-04 09:06:11] QuantFocus : that's a lot nowadays [2017-01-04 09:06:29] immackay : it's better than losing it I suppose [2017-01-04 09:06:57] immackay : like I've gotten so good at doing [2017-01-04 09:07:02] Milkman : 0kcoin going down for 45 minutes cant even produce a dump [2017-01-04 09:07:04] immackay : why is no one getting rekt today? [2017-01-04 09:07:15] immackay : this isn't like bitcoin [2017-01-04 09:07:23] immackay : it's supposed to be tears and mayhem [2017-01-04 09:07:24] laisee : all the shorts are gone [2017-01-04 09:07:49] 5bg : Is there a way for me to lend money on bitmex? [2017-01-04 09:08:00] QuantFocus : sounds like short time [2017-01-04 09:08:05] immackay : 5bg: i don't think so [2017-01-04 09:08:17] MikeHunt : 5bg: withdraw to another accounts deposit address? [2017-01-04 09:08:25] immackay : QuantFocus: all in short let's goo [2017-01-04 09:08:37] immackay : 5bg: you can lend it to me [2017-01-04 09:08:39] QuantFocus : ok cool [2017-01-04 09:08:41] MikeHunt : lol [2017-01-04 09:08:43] nOgAnOo : Ok, I'm at a 3 dollar profit in the last 2 hours [2017-01-04 09:08:44] nOgAnOo : :) [2017-01-04 09:08:47] laisee : u can lend some of your money to Bitmex if you make a trade [2017-01-04 09:08:54] nOgAnOo : almost making minimum wage here.......... [2017-01-04 09:09:21] aethlios : nOgAnOo: target is maximum wage. [2017-01-04 09:09:35] QuantFocus : aethlios: noice [2017-01-04 09:09:37] immackay : aethlios is with us again [2017-01-04 09:09:49] immackay : how's your chart looking? [2017-01-04 09:10:03] Milkman : stamp new high [2017-01-04 09:10:07] aethlios : I will buy cheap your REKT longs!!! [2017-01-04 09:10:13] Milkman : stamp has caught up [2017-01-04 09:12:05] MikeHunt : just dont get greedy and you can ride this to the top [2017-01-04 09:13:52] immackay : is it time to short yet [2017-01-04 09:14:10] alejandromasari : Zcash going to take of in under 10 days [2017-01-04 09:14:19] MikeHunt : immackay: this could go up to 80k [2017-01-04 09:14:44] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: no more zcash on here? [2017-01-04 09:14:47] Milkman : china bots saved the day. more sideways [2017-01-04 09:14:57] immackay : MikeHunt: 80k when [2017-01-04 09:16:33] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: zech17 buy starter position [2017-01-04 09:16:40] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: ? [2017-01-04 09:16:44] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: buy 1 [2017-01-04 09:17:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 1 @ 0.010080 [2017-01-04 09:17:11] MikeHunt : immackay: we are in a bull market, there could be a flash crash due to a black swan otherwise it will keep going up [2017-01-04 09:17:12] Ahhere : 25k =~ half a trillion market cap [2017-01-04 09:17:39] Ahhere : if that etf gets approved now.. wheeeew [2017-01-04 09:17:50] immackay : MikeHunt: you're right, bitcoin has never retraced in the past [2017-01-04 09:18:40] MikeHunt : immackay: difference now is the china factor [2017-01-04 09:19:06] MikeHunt : huobi/okcoin is the new gox imo [2017-01-04 09:19:24] MikeHunt : except this time they may not cut n run at 1200 [2017-01-04 09:20:21] MikeHunt : immackay: http://fiatleak.com/ [2017-01-04 09:20:48] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: only 1 zec? [2017-01-04 09:23:25] nOgAnOo : I love you all [2017-01-04 09:23:26] Ahhere : MikeHunt: so 12.5 btc made every 10 mins and in 2 mins watching fiat leak 100btc has leaked.. this cant be right [2017-01-04 09:23:43] Ahhere : *100 btc of fiats [2017-01-04 09:23:45] MikeHunt : Ahhere: china has a problem [2017-01-04 09:23:50] MikeHunt : Ahhere: study their banking system [2017-01-04 09:24:20] immackay : nOgAnOo: at least someone does [2017-01-04 09:24:24] MikeHunt : Ahhere: ill admit i was dumb to short this but since i put 2+2 together i think i know where this is going [2017-01-04 09:24:34] shiroe : wow 7700! [2017-01-04 09:24:49] nOgAnOo : Good morning shiroe [2017-01-04 09:24:52] aethlios : usdcnh 6.92, this should scare bulls.... [2017-01-04 09:25:00] shiroe : Good morning. [2017-01-04 09:25:05] shiroe : When i sleep, it pumps. waa [2017-01-04 09:25:21] Ahhere : MikeHunt: hey you're gonna look somewhat dumb every time you do a trade, sometimes before sometimes after [2017-01-04 09:25:21] immackay : shiroe: don't sleep [2017-01-04 09:25:26] MikeHunt : aethlios: official rate and perceived rate on the ground arent necessarily the same, take venuezuela as an example [2017-01-04 09:25:36] shiroe : immackay: T_T [2017-01-04 09:26:02] immackay : shiroe: I'm serious I've lost out on every single bull run the last two weeks because of sleeping [2017-01-04 09:26:09] immackay : I really wish I was joking [2017-01-04 09:26:21] MikeHunt : immackay: just buy and hold? [2017-01-04 09:26:51] immackay : MikeHunt: I had done that originally at the beginning of december but then I started trading and I was rather stupid at first [2017-01-04 09:26:53] shiroe : immackay: same, lost a lot of potential profit because of it. -__ [2017-01-04 09:27:08] shiroe : it seesms pump always starts at at the same time. [2017-01-04 09:27:13] immackay : gambled a bit too much of it away [2017-01-04 09:27:23] immackay : also gave some away to friends and family [2017-01-04 09:27:26] MikeHunt : immackay: yeh ive done that, lost 1.5 btc iirc [2017-01-04 09:27:55] immackay : but it's been an enlightening journey! And I have learned many lessons along the way [2017-01-04 09:28:56] MikeHunt : immackay: +1 [2017-01-04 09:29:34] immackay : I don't really mind the fact that I've lost a lot and lost out on big gains [2017-01-04 09:29:56] MikeHunt : immackay: i could have had 12btc if i spotted the china run earlier [2017-01-04 09:29:57] Alls : I realise at GMT+8 dump is around 11am and 6pm [2017-01-04 09:29:59] immackay : Just means I'll hopefully be more intelligent next time opportunity reaches out to me [2017-01-04 09:29:59] MikeHunt : i waited too long [2017-01-04 09:30:26] MikeHunt : immackay: we all learn through failure [2017-01-04 09:30:32] MikeHunt : or other ppls failures [2017-01-04 09:30:43] immackay : MikeHunt: I had gained 4btc in the initial bull run, then longed again at the top of that and lost it in a flash crash [2017-01-04 09:30:53] immackay : cunting china [2017-01-04 09:30:53] MikeHunt : just like china will learn imo once PBOC cant hide their shitty economic situation [2017-01-04 09:30:57] Alls : Set a stop loss and profit limit? [2017-01-04 09:31:10] Alls : Before you go sleep? [2017-01-04 09:31:10] nOgAnOo : I'm just hoping to double my 0.1 so I can buy an ounce of weed [2017-01-04 09:31:11] MikeHunt : immackay: were you leveraging? [2017-01-04 09:31:23] immackay : MikeHunt: yeah lol waaaay too much [2017-01-04 09:31:34] immackay : basically gambling [2017-01-04 09:31:54] MikeHunt : immackay: i just do a small portion at up to 5x, that way i can scale down if china doing sideways correction [2017-01-04 09:32:11] MikeHunt : btc is going up anyways so no point risking too much [2017-01-04 09:32:16] MikeHunt : 10% is general rule [2017-01-04 09:32:22] immackay : MikeHunt: yeah, I should have done a 5x on my 1.9 back when this started [2017-01-04 09:32:37] immackay : fucked myself over in many ways last month [2017-01-04 09:32:42] immackay : ah well [2017-01-04 09:32:46] immackay : live and learn [2017-01-04 09:32:55] immackay : no point worrying about the past [2017-01-04 09:33:23] Alls : Do you cash out your coin? And leave a base playing pool? [2017-01-04 09:33:25] immackay : (actually I tried to do a 5x long, kraken refused to fill my order, even on a market buy) [2017-01-04 09:33:44] nOgAnOo : how long will it pump for?? [2017-01-04 09:34:10] shiroe : When i first joined bitmex, i lost 10btc initially because of default x100 placement @_@ [2017-01-04 09:34:10] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: unless a black swan happens, there is no real top but ill say 80k due to gox ratio [2017-01-04 09:34:37] immackay : shiroe: holy shit [2017-01-04 09:34:38] MikeHunt : immackay: could be due to low volume there [2017-01-04 09:34:51] immackay : MikeHunt: yeah, I think so [2017-01-04 09:35:02] shiroe : immackay: well it was 400usd ea, if i just hold it out.. at x25.. waa haha [2017-01-04 09:35:09] immackay : shiroe: wanna share some of that with me? [2017-01-04 09:35:27] immackay : jk I probably wouldn't [2017-01-04 09:35:52] shiroe : immackay: i lost it on bitmex bot volatility, newbie here and excited on ltoo high leverage. [2017-01-04 09:36:30] immackay : yeah, the bots here can be assholes sometimes I've learned [2017-01-04 09:39:13] shiroe : The happiest day here was when eth lost 50% of its marketcap due to dao. soo much profit on leverage. [2017-01-04 09:40:28] brojo : why does the mark price change so much when the index remains the same [2017-01-04 09:40:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15000 @ 1063.96 [2017-01-04 09:40:58] immackay : brojo: click on them and they explain where the values come from [2017-01-04 09:41:19] immackay : REKT: there we go [2017-01-04 09:41:21] brojo : has to do with the bids and the asks? [2017-01-04 09:41:29] nOgAnOo : oh wow [2017-01-04 09:41:31] nOgAnOo : rekkage [2017-01-04 09:41:54] immackay : who shorted when I said all in long? [2017-01-04 09:41:58] immackay : seriously guys [2017-01-04 09:44:25] WhiteJacket : fix mark price come on!!!!!! [2017-01-04 09:45:43] immackay : WhiteJacket: ? [2017-01-04 09:54:26] MikeHunt : pump incoming it seems [2017-01-04 09:54:52] Alls : Pumping o.o [2017-01-04 09:55:10] brojo : WhiteJacket: whats wrong [2017-01-04 09:55:21] MikeHunt : should be within next hour [2017-01-04 09:55:45] Alls : I thinks it's gonna be a dump then a pump [2017-01-04 09:55:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 667 @ 1065.03 [2017-01-04 09:56:15] immackay : all in short let's goo [2017-01-04 09:56:17] PARAFFIN : shiroe: now you win 100 btc because of x10 ? [2017-01-04 09:57:51] MikeHunt : Alls: this bull market is huge, miners/chinese wont let it go [2017-01-04 09:58:24] shiroe : PARAFFIN: half over the year. [2017-01-04 09:58:43] Alls : True I guess, it has only been going up and up [2017-01-04 09:58:52] Ahhere : lol its fun watching 1070 get chomped [2017-01-04 10:01:32] nOgAnOo : no sells left [2017-01-04 10:01:34] nOgAnOo : =/ [2017-01-04 10:01:47] immackay : nOgAnOo: i'll sell to you [2017-01-04 10:02:10] Alls : Oh purchase has broke 1070 [2017-01-04 10:02:20] Alls : Hurray mentioned barrier broken [2017-01-04 10:02:29] Alls : Mental* [2017-01-04 10:02:40] brojo : time to short 100k xbch17 [2017-01-04 10:02:58] brojo : think we will see 8030 [2017-01-04 10:03:09] Ahhere : Alls: hurray ! [2017-01-04 10:03:34] Ahhere : Alls: next stop 1080 [2017-01-04 10:03:34] nOgAnOo : huge sell candle [2017-01-04 10:03:48] Alls : Well I am not holding any position lol [2017-01-04 10:04:09] Alls : Already sold all my earlier on, just started played ytd [2017-01-04 10:04:18] Alls : After a few month pause [2017-01-04 10:04:59] Ahhere : Alls: ah I see I closed out 80% of my position from 1025 I think it will go to 1080 easily and leaving a little on the pot for 1100 [2017-01-04 10:05:29] Alls : I start with a 950 dumped at 1050 [2017-01-04 10:05:54] Ahhere : nice you like round numbers [2017-01-04 10:06:06] Ahhere : no bull [2017-01-04 10:06:09] Alls : Yea I set auto sell lol [2017-01-04 10:06:36] Ahhere : when do you fomo back in? x) [2017-01-04 10:06:45] Alls : But I played small around 0.2 worth so profit around 2.5