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[2017-01-04 05:42:09] MikeHunt : i wonder were we are going
[2017-01-04 05:42:52] anonymous123421 : If we have any BTC in 10 - 20 years we'll all be rich imo, this train has no breaks
[2017-01-04 05:42:59] MikeHunt : 1100 highest or still 8k?
[2017-01-04 05:43:12] imapotato : What's the "market cap" for silver?
[2017-01-04 05:43:16] MikeHunt : train may have no breaks but the tracks dont always lead upwards
[2017-01-04 05:43:30] anonymous123421 : It's a bumpy ride for sure
[2017-01-04 05:43:42] MikeHunt : imapotato: precious metals are usually manipulated so may not be easy to value it
[2017-01-04 05:44:00] MikeHunt : imapotato: but i highly recommend keeping at least 10% of ur worth in metals
[2017-01-04 05:44:17] imapotato : Let me calculate...
[2017-01-04 05:44:54] imapotato : Yeah, I'm right around 10% silver.
[2017-01-04 05:45:37] MikeHunt : i think after this rally if i still have any money ill get a lump of silver
[2017-01-04 05:45:39] MikeHunt : just cuz i can
[2017-01-04 05:46:04] MikeHunt : thats what i like about it over gold is you can have a big rock without burning ur wallet
[2017-01-04 05:46:21] MikeHunt : something to stare at on those rainy british days :/
[2017-01-04 05:46:24] imapotato : Same.
[2017-01-04 05:46:25] imabeast : flash dump please
[2017-01-04 05:46:26] imapotato : It's fun to hodl.
[2017-01-04 05:48:09] MikeHunt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz-8CSa9xj8
[2017-01-04 05:48:43] Milkman : i was telling my friend about BTC. he goes out and buys gold and silver instead. meh oh well
[2017-01-04 05:48:46] Milkman : his loss
[2017-01-04 05:49:07] imapotato : his safe, boring investment*
[2017-01-04 05:49:08] Milkman : holding it was pretty cool though
[2017-01-04 05:49:43] alejandromasari : Milkman: btc will be at parity with gold.
[2017-01-04 05:49:50] MikeHunt : omg i search and there is a HODL hitler video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTupVFxDfII
[2017-01-04 05:50:15] imapotato : alejandromasari: I read that BTC passed silver in market cap recently, but can't find a figure for the silver market cap myself to verify
[2017-01-04 05:50:26] rapidtrades : kraken very volatile right now
[2017-01-04 05:50:30] imapotato : Nice thing about BTC, though, is that we aren't going to find an asteroid loaded with bitcoins one day.
[2017-01-04 05:50:37] imapotato : You never know when we'll find vast new supplies of PMs.
[2017-01-04 05:50:47] anonymous123421 : ^^ Indeed
[2017-01-04 05:50:52] QuantFocus : i know, prime ministers are all over the place
[2017-01-04 05:50:54] QuantFocus : ample supply
[2017-01-04 05:50:55] Milkman : china bots bought it back up to 7650 cny
[2017-01-04 05:50:56] immackay : rapidtrades: yeah the spread has been a nightmare for the last day or two
[2017-01-04 05:50:58] alejandromasari : imapotato: yup
[2017-01-04 05:51:00] Milkman : om nom nom they be hungry
[2017-01-04 05:51:25] imapotato : that wasn't a flash dump
[2017-01-04 05:51:28] imapotato : that wasn't even much of a dip
[2017-01-04 05:51:29] alejandromasari : people have objections to bitcoin
[2017-01-04 05:51:35] alejandromasari : they say it can be banned
[2017-01-04 05:51:40] alejandromasari : don't trust it
[2017-01-04 05:51:43] Milkman : china ATH in a few hours if this doesnt dump
[2017-01-04 05:51:43] rapidtrades : no we just can have a bunch of nerds arbitrarily decide to up the supply by 20 mil
[2017-01-04 05:51:50] imapotato : >people have objections to bitcoin people have misunderstandings of bitcoin*
[2017-01-04 05:51:52] rapidtrades : which do u think is more likely?
[2017-01-04 05:51:52] imapotato : :)
[2017-01-04 05:52:10] rapidtrades : I'm gonna bet on human stupidity
[2017-01-04 05:52:55] Rado2 : imapotato: silver has way bigger market cap than bitcoin
[2017-01-04 05:53:11] rapidtrades : actually bitcoin is now bigger
[2017-01-04 05:53:17] imapotato : Rado2: source? Not doubting you, I genuinely want a source
[2017-01-04 05:54:53] rapidtrades : http://bitcoinist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/cap.jpg
[2017-01-04 05:55:34] Rado2 : rapidtrades: this is bs
[2017-01-04 05:55:51] Rado2 : How is this calculated?
[2017-01-04 05:55:57] imapotato : rapidtrades: source on that number?
[2017-01-04 05:56:05] rapidtrades : u tell me..go fact check it lazy
[2017-01-04 05:57:19] MikeHunt : imo crypto is designed to destroy liberalism
[2017-01-04 05:57:30] imapotato : https://www2.usgs.gov/faq/categories/9783/2520
[2017-01-04 05:57:43] j8 : i imagine it doesn't include silver in the ground, and on asteroids
[2017-01-04 05:57:49] imapotato : Not sure how much of that silver is in a usable condition
[2017-01-04 05:58:15] imapotato : But "silver discovered to date" would be about $916B
[2017-01-04 05:58:51] imapotato : finex bulls are chewing at $1060 again
[2017-01-04 05:59:26] QuantFocus : http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/silver/silver.html
[2017-01-04 05:59:35] Milkman : is that one of you guys shorting at 1137 on xbth17
[2017-01-04 06:00:40] QuantFocus : funding is getting juicy
[2017-01-04 06:01:28] QuantFocus : oh here you go
[2017-01-04 06:01:28] QuantFocus : http://money.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-money-and-markets-in-one-visualization/
[2017-01-04 06:01:31] QuantFocus : that one is better
[2017-01-04 06:01:33] imapotato : QuantFocus: according to that, the "Silver in all existing forms, not just accessible/purchasable Silver Reserves" is worth about $409B
[2017-01-04 06:01:55] Rado2 : QuantFocus: thanks, that makes a lot more sense
[2017-01-04 06:02:10] QuantFocus : eh, second one is way outdated it appears
[2017-01-04 06:02:14] imapotato : I think the problem is that the majority of silver isn't in counted reserves somewhere.
[2017-01-04 06:02:39] imapotato : It's under people's mattresses, worn as jewelry, etc.
[2017-01-04 06:02:42] Rado2 : Market cap is not about reserves
[2017-01-04 06:02:49] imapotato : +1
[2017-01-04 06:03:08] Rado2 : A lot of bitcoins are lost, but still counted in the market cap
[2017-01-04 06:03:17] imapotato : +1
[2017-01-04 06:03:27] QuantFocus : :+1: :whale:
[2017-01-04 06:03:28] j8 : and none of them are "in reserves"
[2017-01-04 06:03:50] alejandromasari : thanks to those who sold short to me at 1052
[2017-01-04 06:03:51] alejandromasari : lol
[2017-01-04 06:04:50] Rado2 : alejandromasari: you better take profit soon
[2017-01-04 06:05:14] alejandromasari : Rado2: you better let me manage my own trades thanks.
[2017-01-04 06:05:31] QuantFocus : hah, you're going to get rekt hard
[2017-01-04 06:05:36] Rado2 : alejandromasari: np, and see ya later
[2017-01-04 06:05:44] QuantFocus : these are the lessons you noobs need to learn though
[2017-01-04 06:05:55] alejandromasari : Rado2: thanks so much ;-)
[2017-01-04 06:08:03] MrRGnome : QuantFocus: They'll learn it eventually. If not this bubble then the next. Chronic gamblers always lose eventually.
[2017-01-04 06:09:05] QuantFocus : I know that feel
[2017-01-04 06:09:11] QuantFocus : but now i'm in GA
[2017-01-04 06:09:19] MrRGnome : Good for you man.
[2017-01-04 06:09:43] QuantFocus : not really, but my trading strategies are entirely differnt
[2017-01-04 06:10:13] QuantFocus : anyway, i'm out for a bit. you guys have fun
[2017-01-04 06:10:25] MrRGnome : Yeah, if there is one thing this kind of volatility is good for it's teaching risk management skills the hard way.
[2017-01-04 06:10:39] Milkman : bitmex must be making lots of money. these big orders are like $20 in fees
[2017-01-04 06:13:37] brojo : i wonder how to see how much in fees ive paid
[2017-01-04 06:13:40] brojo : i just started here a few days ago
[2017-01-04 06:13:52] brojo : have been trading 100-200k block contracts
[2017-01-04 06:13:56] Rado2 : Milkman: fees are $17k last 24 hr, but also they paid about 6k to makers
[2017-01-04 06:14:10] j8 : download trade history and add it up @brojo
[2017-01-04 06:14:43] brojo : where do i do that
[2017-01-04 06:14:44] m3s : Milkman: let them make it the platform is the shit
[2017-01-04 06:15:41] j8 : brojo: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory there is a Save as CSV button
[2017-01-04 06:15:58] alejandromasari : Rado2: how did you calculate the fees?
[2017-01-04 06:16:09] weather b0y4 : delevereged for now, eneough profits for today =Z
[2017-01-04 06:16:14] Gekko : At what point do the Chinese government decide to ban bitcoin as a ccy control measure...500 dollar flash crash??
[2017-01-04 06:16:37] Rado2 : 24h turnover on tge left under contract details
[2017-01-04 06:17:01] brojo : the commission is that a real number or a % of the trade ammt
[2017-01-04 06:17:19] Rado2 : brojo: real
[2017-01-04 06:17:22] brojo : ok
[2017-01-04 06:17:30] j8 : they make a bit less than 0.05% on volume because of affiliate payments
[2017-01-04 06:17:32] brojo : they are all 0.00075
[2017-01-04 06:18:07] odieoh : well both the real amount and the % are listed- that is the percentage, then there should also be a number listed
[2017-01-04 06:18:30] odieoh : .00075 is the %
[2017-01-04 06:18:46] Rado2 : j8: right, i have one affiliate lol
[2017-01-04 06:19:09] j8 : is she named Angelika by chance?
[2017-01-04 06:19:19] Rado2 : No
[2017-01-04 06:19:39] Rado2 : Someone signed up from my twitter l8nk
[2017-01-04 06:19:55] j8 : i see. i have zero
[2017-01-04 06:19:59] MikeHunt : Gekko: no need to ban, just take over it
[2017-01-04 06:20:08] brojo : 0.058646
[2017-01-04 06:20:17] brojo : thats my fees or just all the percentages added
[2017-01-04 06:20:27] brojo : i dont see the real number
[2017-01-04 06:20:53] odieoh : you looking in trade history?
[2017-01-04 06:21:19] brojo : yes
[2017-01-04 06:21:33] MikeHunt : i noticed on the macd the crashes seem to be 4-5 days apart
[2017-01-04 06:21:49] MikeHunt : that puts the next 1hr downcycle within the next 18 hours
[2017-01-04 06:21:52] brojo : execComm is that the column?
[2017-01-04 06:22:04] j8 : brojo: yeah execComm is in satoshis
[2017-01-04 06:22:15] brojo : 45978665
[2017-01-04 06:22:32] odieoh : So "fee rate" is the percentage, and "fee paid" is the amount you paid. If the "fee paid" is a negative number, you actually were paid the fee. If it is a positive number, you paid that amount
[2017-01-04 06:22:37] Rado2 : Fee paid is in xbt
[2017-01-04 06:22:51] odieoh : yeah, in XBT not dollars
[2017-01-04 06:23:31] alejandromasari : buy the dip
[2017-01-04 06:23:36] Gekko : All it's gonna take is some kind of controls like they are doing for Property or Macau gambling and is horror show time
[2017-01-04 06:24:00] MikeHunt : Gekko: link it with sesame credit and prevent sending bitcoin outside country
[2017-01-04 06:24:05] alejandromasari : there will be a black swan event for bitchcoin
[2017-01-04 06:24:09] alejandromasari : bitcoin*
[2017-01-04 06:24:15] brojo : commission text execCost execComm
[2017-01-04 06:24:25] brojo : which one of those columns is the real cost paid
[2017-01-04 06:24:28] brojo : in fees
[2017-01-04 06:24:33] brojo : the execcomm?
[2017-01-04 06:24:35] j8 : execComm is
[2017-01-04 06:24:39] j8 : it's in satoshis
[2017-01-04 06:24:51] brojo : 45978665 is what ive done in 48 hours
[2017-01-04 06:24:51] odieoh : Relative to the size of their economy, bitcoin is a raindrop. We'll see.
[2017-01-04 06:25:14] brojo : thats 4.5 btc or .45
[2017-01-04 06:25:27] j8 : `execComm = round(execCost * commission)`
[2017-01-04 06:25:31] Rado2 : .45
[2017-01-04 06:25:41] MikeHunt : odieoh: economy - debt = not good
[2017-01-04 06:25:52] MikeHunt : 330% debt to gbp
[2017-01-04 06:25:56] MikeHunt : gdp
[2017-01-04 06:26:01] brojo : so about $450 in 48 hours
[2017-01-04 06:26:12] MikeHunt : brojo: probably $600
[2017-01-04 06:26:22] MikeHunt : -> $900
[2017-01-04 06:26:36] odieoh : Oh I'm not arguing that their economy is in great shape, I just don't think BTC is on the radar yet (we're talking china, right?)
[2017-01-04 06:26:40] MikeHunt : its gonna be a hard landing by looks of it
[2017-01-04 06:27:03] MikeHunt : odieoh: well if they allow btc to flow capital out of the country it may grow out of their control
[2017-01-04 06:27:15] MikeHunt : authoritarian countries usually act quickly in that manner
[2017-01-04 06:27:55] odieoh : Yeah @mikehunt, but compared to the amount that is flowing out into real estate and other stuff. . .like I said, BTC is a drop in the bucket, and even that may be overstating it.
[2017-01-04 06:28:43] Rado2 : Housing market in Vancouver is 800 bill
[2017-01-04 06:28:47] MikeHunt : odieoh: the other stuff is easier to trace
[2017-01-04 06:28:50] immackay : is the orderbook frozen again or is there nothing happening
[2017-01-04 06:28:53] unicorns_rainbows : real estate is overvalued, nobody is buying. space is a better future
[2017-01-04 06:29:25] Rado2 : unicorns_rainbows: tell this to Chinese buying properties here
[2017-01-04 06:29:36] odieoh : Cuz how much of it is actually "flowing out" anyway- From what I understand, the Chinese love BTC as a way to gamble, and there's very little evidence that its actually being used as a way to preserve capital
[2017-01-04 06:30:25] unicorns_rainbows : The chinese are gonna buy a shitload more property for pennies on the dollar once bitcoin moons.
[2017-01-04 06:30:43] unicorns_rainbows : They will buy it with BTC that they already have.
[2017-01-04 06:30:52] odieoh : The chinese don't care if real estate is overvalued, its a way to get out of their crappy currency
[2017-01-04 06:31:08] laisee : Good thing we a real estate guy as Pres now, to sell lots of props to China ... /s
[2017-01-04 06:31:18] alejandromasari : maybe vancouver mls agents will start accepting bitcoin for real estate lol
[2017-01-04 06:31:54] odieoh : The chinese may be the very reason real estate is overvalued lol
[2017-01-04 06:32:19] unicorns_rainbows : thats already happening in venzuela, its only a matter of time. I'm not selling land for fiat anytime soon, but maybe most people don't know that yet
[2017-01-04 06:34:51] imapotato : Can I short real estate?
[2017-01-04 06:37:43] imabeast : here comes the dippp
[2017-01-04 06:39:14] imapotato : dip?
[2017-01-04 06:39:23] imapotato : no brakes in the West, and a bull flag in China
[2017-01-04 06:39:31] odieoh : You can kind of short real estate. Short REITs,
[2017-01-04 06:39:42] laisee : elmorte: let me know ur g/hub handle
[2017-01-04 06:39:43] Milkman : wish china would just break up and hit 8000 cny already
[2017-01-04 06:40:20] MikeHunt : i dont think bubble will last more than a day or two
[2017-01-04 06:40:23] MikeHunt : not without a correction
[2017-01-04 06:40:25] Milkman : then whale puts 50,000 BTC buy wall at 8000 cny and continues pumping
[2017-01-04 06:40:31] Milkman : good ol' power move
[2017-01-04 06:40:56] MikeHunt : maybe i was right originally, this could scale to 80k
[2017-01-04 06:41:03] MikeHunt : if china keeps buying
[2017-01-04 06:41:09] MikeHunt : bots keep manipulating
[2017-01-04 06:46:28] elmorte : laisee: elmorterage
[2017-01-04 06:48:06] laisee : elmorte: https://github.com/laisee/rektbitmex/invitations
[2017-01-04 06:48:23] MrRGnome : Just remember, people are going to take profit at some point. I know I am. If everyone does it at the same general time shit could go south fast.
[2017-01-04 06:48:37] elmorte : laisee: cheers bud!
[2017-01-04 06:49:06] alejandromasari : Rado2: 1080 by 11 am Ottawa time
[2017-01-04 06:50:13] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: you suggesting shorting now?
[2017-01-04 06:50:29] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: mike short but hedged also
[2017-01-04 06:50:33] alejandromasari : just in case...
[2017-01-04 06:50:40] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yarp
[2017-01-04 06:50:52] MikeHunt : rocket swap ready
[2017-01-04 06:50:58] laisee : elmorte: np. its pretty basic, let me know any issues.
[2017-01-04 06:53:23] alejandromasari : MikeHunt:
[2017-01-04 06:54:07] MrRGnome : MikeHunt: I'm suggesting watch out for the fall. I'm net long, but starting to profit take which involves a few shorts. I'm probably going to profit take through ~1500 usd and keep the other 3/4 of my coins
[2017-01-04 06:55:04] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: yeh im doing that as well, using a leveraged long swap to pull it up every now and again
[2017-01-04 06:56:28] MrRGnome : I like using shorts here to lock in a price for profit taking on my long term held coins, earn some interest, and hedge my risk against a flash crash.
[2017-01-04 06:56:48] MrRGnome : So yeah, if your context can benefit from it, I would say short here.
[2017-01-04 06:56:59] MrRGnome : Not really a statement about whether I think it's going up or down.
[2017-01-04 06:57:27] nOgAnOo : heading down it looks like
[2017-01-04 06:57:57] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: you going to leverage as it falls?
[2017-01-04 06:58:07] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: im just curious about getting deleraged thou
[2017-01-04 06:58:11] MrRGnome : Nope, no leverage in this bubble for me
[2017-01-04 06:58:11] MikeHunt : if i did that
[2017-01-04 06:58:47] MrRGnome : I'm strictly arbing and collecting interest to hedge my risk against a flash crash
[2017-01-04 06:58:52] MrRGnome : and it's all 1x no leverage
[2017-01-04 06:58:54] narnarfromnarnia : nOgAnOo: daily is a solid go to 1140
[2017-01-04 06:58:57] narnarfromnarnia : then to 880
[2017-01-04 06:59:18] nOgAnOo : that makes sense
[2017-01-04 06:59:32] nOgAnOo : I shorted far to early.. got rekt 5 times
[2017-01-04 06:59:35] nOgAnOo : now I'm back in trying again
[2017-01-04 06:59:36] nOgAnOo : lol
[2017-01-04 07:00:21] brojo : i see a bullish pennant on btc/cy
[2017-01-04 07:00:24] narnarfromnarnia : the market makers see every trade and will liquidate you
[2017-01-04 07:00:31] narnarfromnarnia : only way to beat is lower leverage and hodl
[2017-01-04 07:00:36] brojo : bet we see 7777 soon
[2017-01-04 07:01:43] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: where you shorting xbt or march?
[2017-01-04 07:01:59] MikeHunt : swaps or march9
[2017-01-04 07:02:00] MikeHunt : *
[2017-01-04 07:02:38] MrRGnome : swap where I can earn the funding rate
[2017-01-04 07:03:52] imapotato : finex almost done eating $1060
[2017-01-04 07:04:08] imapotato : 60 coins to go
[2017-01-04 07:04:28] MrRGnome : If ever the funding rate turns against me significantly, I'll just close the position - at a loss if necessary - and cash out the appropriate amount of BTC to fiat to equate to the profit taking I locked in with my short and keep riding the ride with the rest of my coins
[2017-01-04 07:05:05] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: im currently shorting xbth17, that bad?
[2017-01-04 07:05:32] MrRGnome : Nothings bad. Anything can be justified in a given context or trading strategy.
[2017-01-04 07:05:34] nOgAnOo : 7.50 above spot
[2017-01-04 07:05:39] nOgAnOo : Interesting
[2017-01-04 07:05:56] MrRGnome : What's good and what's bad are relative to you, your risk tolerance, etc
[2017-01-04 07:06:18] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: funding rate is for the insurance pot?
[2017-01-04 07:06:47] MrRGnome : MikeHunt: No. Funding rate is a transfer between buyers and sellers of the contract.
[2017-01-04 07:06:56] MrRGnome : If the funding rate is positive, shorts get paid by longs
[2017-01-04 07:07:05] MrRGnome : if the funding rate is negative, longs get paid by shorts
[2017-01-04 07:07:26] MrRGnome : The goal is to encourage market support or resistance appropriate to keep the market price close tot he mark price.
[2017-01-04 07:07:41] MrRGnome : The funding rate changes the more the market price here deviates from mark
[2017-01-04 07:08:01] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: so in a flash crash it could go a lot higher?
[2017-01-04 07:08:07] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: https://www.youngresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/picking-up-nickels-in-front-of-a-steamroller.png
[2017-01-04 07:08:12] alejandromasari : shorts be like...
[2017-01-04 07:08:15] alejandromasari : ouch
[2017-01-04 07:08:48] MrRGnome : In a flash crash, just like in a bull run now, you can expect significant mark and last traded price divergence.
[2017-01-04 07:09:17] MrRGnome : Like right now it's 10 dollars higher here than the mark. As a result the next funding rate is almost as high as it can be
[2017-01-04 07:11:49] MikeHunt : MrRGnome: i saw the funding rate flicker to 3.6% which is why i asked
[2017-01-04 07:11:58] MikeHunt : it was very quick and then back
[2017-01-04 07:12:15] MrRGnome : just hover over it
[2017-01-04 07:12:26] MrRGnome : what you're seeing is the funding rate for the enxt period not this one
[2017-01-04 07:12:43] MikeHunt : ahh i see
[2017-01-04 07:15:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 1062.40
[2017-01-04 07:15:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2790 @ 1062.97
[2017-01-04 07:16:03] l3f : NO BRAKES
[2017-01-04 07:16:10] l3f : straight to ATH
[2017-01-04 07:16:36] imapotato : >never short btc
[2017-01-04 07:16:41] imapotato : I'm going to bed with my 4x long.
[2017-01-04 07:16:50] imapotato : Except now it's down to 3.6x because profit...
[2017-01-04 07:17:16] brouk : 7700 cny broken
[2017-01-04 07:17:40] imapotato : 1065 finex
[2017-01-04 07:17:49] Milkman : 7777.77 incoming
[2017-01-04 07:18:03] MrRGnome : 8888 is going to be the real magic number
[2017-01-04 07:18:19] MrRGnome : chinese are either going to cash in or buy like never before
[2017-01-04 07:18:33] imapotato : Maybe they'll just stick at 8888.
[2017-01-04 07:18:42] imapotato : 100k sell wall at 8889
[2017-01-04 07:18:51] imapotato : 100k btc bid at 8887
[2017-01-04 07:18:54] nOgAnOo : lol
[2017-01-04 07:19:00] MikeHunt : "In Chengdu the telephone number 8888-8888 was sold for a sum corresponding to USD $270,723."
[2017-01-04 07:19:01] nOgAnOo : Chinese and their 8s
[2017-01-04 07:19:02] MrRGnome : I'd be okay with that
[2017-01-04 07:19:38] imapotato : "In the Internet, a couple pizzas were sold for 10,000 BTC."
[2017-01-04 07:20:41] MikeHunt : 7 is unlucky
[2017-01-04 07:20:46] MikeHunt : could be 7777 is drop point
[2017-01-04 07:21:06] nOgAnOo : 8 dollars over mark
[2017-01-04 07:22:08] Sheriff : Would you guys always recommend a stop market over a stop limit to be safe?
[2017-01-04 07:22:51] l3f : China's waiting for 10k to break
[2017-01-04 07:26:51] MikeHunt : its already nearing vertical
[2017-01-04 07:26:57] MikeHunt : excellerating rapidly
[2017-01-04 07:27:19] happy : You guys are amazing..
[2017-01-04 07:29:04] odieoh : I don't use any kind of stops. There can be huge brief spikes that activate your stops and fuck you
[2017-01-04 07:30:27] immackay : watch it plummet in the next 24 hours
[2017-01-04 07:30:33] odieoh : Lol I never knew that "gently caress" was forced into the chat; I thought everyone was just typing that and it was just part of the culture here
[2017-01-04 07:30:57] immackay : odieoh: what? gently caress is part of the culture
[2017-01-04 07:31:07] MikeHunt : odieoh: some words here are replaced with others
[2017-01-04 07:31:10] immackay : didn't you get the fucking memo
[2017-01-04 07:31:15] odieoh : Well right, but I didn't know it was FORCED culture
[2017-01-04 07:31:27] MikeHunt : odieoh: chat censor/joke devs did
[2017-01-04 07:31:36] immackay : odieoh: yeah I was trying to be sarcastic but it didn't work
[2017-01-04 07:31:37] odieoh : now I have to try all the other words
[2017-01-04 07:31:40] immackay : okcoin
[2017-01-04 07:31:45] immackay : = ok coin
[2017-01-04 07:31:54] odieoh : shit, fuck, bitch, whore, damn
[2017-01-04 07:31:54] Gekko : Bloomberg just now " how long before Chinese authorities react to bitcoin"
[2017-01-04 07:31:58] immackay : those are the two that I know of
[2017-01-04 07:32:16] odieoh : aaah, I didn't know that's what the woodchipper was either
[2017-01-04 07:32:49] odieoh : Well this has been very informative
[2017-01-04 07:33:27] immackay : someone should get the mods to change bitstamp to bearstamp
[2017-01-04 07:33:57] odieoh : why does the funding rate have to cap? To the MOON interest!
[2017-01-04 07:35:29] alejandromasari : odieoh: same reason for no stops
[2017-01-04 07:35:33] alejandromasari : odieoh: hedge
[2017-01-04 07:36:02] odieoh : cap should be 1% then :)
[2017-01-04 07:36:41] micmix : odieoh: funding rate is capped to avoid automatically liquidating all 100x positions when funding is charged
[2017-01-04 07:36:51] micmix : has nothing to do with hedge
[2017-01-04 07:38:00] micmix : if bitmex ever decides to reduce max leverage to 50x the cap will increase
[2017-01-04 07:38:49] odieoh : I'd vote for that
[2017-01-04 07:39:05] immackay : yeah that would limit my stupidity
[2017-01-04 07:39:09] immackay : to 50x
[2017-01-04 07:39:19] immackay : pro tip: don't be like me
[2017-01-04 07:39:28] odieoh : I've had my moments
[2017-01-04 07:39:51] immackay : throwing money away seems to be my specialty
[2017-01-04 07:40:06] odieoh : Easy to do with crypto and poker
[2017-01-04 07:40:17] immackay : yup
[2017-01-04 07:40:53] odieoh : Ok time for me to go take a walk, watch my money for me will y'all?
[2017-01-04 07:46:41] immackay : odieoh: if the past two weeks has taught me anything, you better kiss it goodbye
[2017-01-04 07:49:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `ZECH17`: buy 14 @ 0.047999
[2017-01-04 07:52:36] odieoh : whoa big spender got Rekt
[2017-01-04 07:54:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 20000 @ 7996.9
[2017-01-04 07:54:47] happy : dop
[2017-01-04 07:54:51] happy : drop
[2017-01-04 08:03:24] immackay : all in short time
[2017-01-04 08:03:53] happy : immackay: well, gl
[2017-01-04 08:07:04] immackay : happy: I enjoy throwing away money
[2017-01-04 08:07:29] happy : immackay: why not give it to me 0.0
[2017-01-04 08:07:32] happy : 3BMEX1PfGPWJkCaiGUz1jJ1Y3nJgu9YWiP
[2017-01-04 08:07:48] immackay : but then I don't get to play :c
[2017-01-04 08:08:26] narnarfromnarnia : how does a long get liq'd
[2017-01-04 08:08:45] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: what?
[2017-01-04 08:09:07] immackay : oh I see
[2017-01-04 08:10:13] immackay : looks like they were probably playing with 100x and bought in at 8010-8024
[2017-01-04 08:12:37] immackay : does anyone else want to short with me?
[2017-01-04 08:12:38] immackay : no?
[2017-01-04 08:12:56] narnarfromnarnia : immackay: just go long 25x
[2017-01-04 08:13:02] happy : I want to short with you, but I don't get any money
[2017-01-04 08:13:42] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: nah man short 100x in the middle of a bull run
[2017-01-04 08:13:43] immackay : trust me
[2017-01-04 08:15:40] immackay : the bitcoin gods have told me that this is the top for today
[2017-01-04 08:17:28] larrybanky1 : hi everyone
[2017-01-04 08:17:42] immackay : guten tag
[2017-01-04 08:18:05] odieoh : bon giorno
[2017-01-04 08:18:37] Ahhere : 8000 is a great number guise
[2017-01-04 08:19:10] nOgAnOo : K I'm finally in profit
[2017-01-04 08:19:11] odieoh : I will look back on it fondly from 7000
[2017-01-04 08:19:26] nOgAnOo : kept scalping my short.. entry now 1066
[2017-01-04 08:19:38] happy : I will borrow money to buy @ 7000
[2017-01-04 08:19:48] nOgAnOo : Guise, don't believe the 8000 hype
[2017-01-04 08:19:57] nOgAnOo : China will never make it
[2017-01-04 08:20:00] nOgAnOo : =/
[2017-01-04 08:20:13] odieoh : did they not already?
[2017-01-04 08:20:20] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: thanks for this tip so you say sell now!?
[2017-01-04 08:20:24] odieoh : It hit 8000 here on bitmex
[2017-01-04 08:20:33] nOgAnOo : Sorry I was joking
[2017-01-04 08:20:34] nOgAnOo : I'm a newbie
[2017-01-04 08:20:39] nOgAnOo : Don't listen to me!!!
[2017-01-04 08:20:51] nOgAnOo : I am shorting but it is VERY dangerous
[2017-01-04 08:20:54] nOgAnOo : every chart says it's going up
[2017-01-04 08:20:55] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: china about to jump to 8014
[2017-01-04 08:22:11] nOgAnOo : But why is china sideways... :(
[2017-01-04 08:22:37] immackay : odieoh: that's the three month future contract
[2017-01-04 08:22:38] nOgAnOo : wtf
[2017-01-04 08:22:48] nOgAnOo : my okcoin volume says 0
[2017-01-04 08:22:51] nOgAnOo : for the last 6 minutes
[2017-01-04 08:22:54] nOgAnOo : ????
[2017-01-04 08:24:18] immackay : nOgAnOo: just add your entire balance to your margin
[2017-01-04 08:24:25] immackay : pray to the bitcoin gods
[2017-01-04 08:25:17] nOgAnOo : Jesus is my only God
[2017-01-04 08:25:37] Ahhere : nOgAnOo: lol pray to them all
[2017-01-04 08:25:37] immackay : well that's why you keep losing money then
[2017-01-04 08:28:54] Ahhere : where can one trade ethusd on margin?
[2017-01-04 08:29:35] immackay : Ahhere: here, polo, bittrex, I assume others
[2017-01-04 08:29:51] brojo : polo you can only trade ethbtc on margin
[2017-01-04 08:29:59] immackay : oh yeah
[2017-01-04 08:30:07] immackay : not sure about bittrex either
[2017-01-04 08:30:33] Naloxone : Ahhere: Bitfinex
[2017-01-04 08:30:33] immackay : not sure where you'd be able to do that
[2017-01-04 08:31:35] immackay : looks like kraken lets you get up to 3x leverage on ethusd
[2017-01-04 08:32:25] Ahhere : i can get 3x on btc-e but need moar
[2017-01-04 08:32:52] imabeast : zec looking to move
[2017-01-04 08:32:53] imabeast : finally
[2017-01-04 08:32:57] immackay : you trust btc-e?
[2017-01-04 08:33:10] immackay : also did okcoin die
[2017-01-04 08:33:30] Ahhere : immackay: haha yes I sent them money back in the day never had a problem bitfinex is also 3.3x
[2017-01-04 08:33:54] happy : 1066 again
[2017-01-04 08:34:06] happy : nOgAnOo: Do you want to short more?
[2017-01-04 08:34:18] immackay : short it all
[2017-01-04 08:34:24] nOgAnOo : I am trying to fill my short at 64 yet
[2017-01-04 08:34:26] nOgAnOo : =/
[2017-01-04 08:35:35] happy : 64?
[2017-01-04 08:35:48] immackay : Ahhere: I've heard reports of funky business going on there
[2017-01-04 08:36:12] imabeast : need a flash crash btc
[2017-01-04 08:36:32] moo : wut
[2017-01-04 08:37:09] MikeHunt : immackay:apparently this will go to 8888 at least
[2017-01-04 08:37:12] MikeHunt : its a chinese thing
[2017-01-04 08:37:14] alejandromasari : zcash is the next crypto to pop
[2017-01-04 08:37:19] alejandromasari : i called eth this weekend
[2017-01-04 08:37:24] alejandromasari : now zcash
[2017-01-04 08:37:30] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: imo they will all get raped when btc goes down
[2017-01-04 08:37:30] alejandromasari : and monero will trend
[2017-01-04 08:37:45] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: they will go up
[2017-01-04 08:37:53] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: isnt monero pretty new though?
[2017-01-04 08:38:04] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: 2014
[2017-01-04 08:38:31] MikeHunt : i noticed that XMR tanked as bitcoin corrected a bit
[2017-01-04 08:38:37] MikeHunt : then promptly came back up
[2017-01-04 08:38:45] Ahhere : MikeHunt: monero around for a bit with not much shilling or promotion present comment notwithstanding
[2017-01-04 08:39:10] MikeHunt : im thinking it will drop during crash then come back up
[2017-01-04 08:39:23] immackay : XMR is used on DNM so it's got a decent userbase protecting the price
[2017-01-04 08:39:50] MikeHunt : immackay: i think it has a future but it might have speculating opportunities during btc crash
[2017-01-04 08:39:58] MikeHunt : if it falls faster than btc
[2017-01-04 08:40:03] immackay : true
[2017-01-04 08:40:04] MikeHunt : and then rises faster afterwards
[2017-01-04 08:40:19] immackay : I'm too lazy to keep up with the alts
[2017-01-04 08:40:23] immackay : I probably should though
[2017-01-04 08:40:28] Ahhere : yeah eth and or xmr I'm expecting to be the ltc of 2016
[2017-01-04 08:40:40] Ahhere : doh 2017
[2017-01-04 08:40:42] immackay : why not both?
[2017-01-04 08:40:53] Ahhere : and or I'm betting on both
[2017-01-04 08:41:02] immackay : same
[2017-01-04 08:41:05] brojo : okcoin feed not working
[2017-01-04 08:41:09] brojo : i wonder if thats affecting the price on here
[2017-01-04 08:41:18] brojo : the o-kaycoin
[2017-01-04 08:41:35] immackay : brojo: yeah it seems to have buggered off for a drink or something
[2017-01-04 08:41:43] immackay : speaking of that
[2017-01-04 08:41:50] nOgAnOo : Yeah, anyone know of any other good charts?
[2017-01-04 08:42:05] nOgAnOo : *scratches head*
[2017-01-04 08:42:53] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: i'd just go long
[2017-01-04 08:42:58] MikeHunt : this is going up to 80k
[2017-01-04 08:43:05] MikeHunt : anywhere between 8k and there
[2017-01-04 08:43:10] immackay : nOgAnOo: i just switch between all the big exchanges
[2017-01-04 08:43:22] immackay : MikeHunt: so all in short you say?
[2017-01-04 08:43:34] nOgAnOo : hoping to get filled at 1064.11
[2017-01-04 08:43:43] nOgAnOo : would be decent profit then
[2017-01-04 08:43:52] MikeHunt : immackay: i have made some shorting its just very time consuming and im fucking tired
[2017-01-04 08:44:00] Naloxone : nOgAnOo: https://cryptowat.ch
[2017-01-04 08:44:16] nOgAnOo : Awesome! Thanks man
[2017-01-04 08:45:04] alejandromasari : nOgAnOo: how many
[2017-01-04 08:45:09] immackay : nOgAnOo: also coinigy or tradingview
[2017-01-04 08:45:31] immackay : coinigy is nice but 'tis only a 30 day free trial
[2017-01-04 08:49:11] cryptomad : I want some dump.
[2017-01-04 08:49:46] Naloxone : ETH 0.1!
[2017-01-04 08:49:54] Naloxone : *0.01
[2017-01-04 08:49:56] MikeHunt : i think its going to go ath/parabollic b4 we see dump
[2017-01-04 08:50:05] happy : Naloxone: Did you mean 0.01
[2017-01-04 08:50:38] Naloxone : happy: i did.0.1 is the future
[2017-01-04 08:50:57] happy : Do you guys have any Bitcoins price alarm?
[2017-01-04 08:53:14] brojo : yes
[2017-01-04 08:53:24] brojo : use tradingview and u can set also on here too i think
[2017-01-04 08:53:41] brojo : something messed up with the pricing of xbcch17
[2017-01-04 08:53:49] brojo : i think the okcoin feed is down
[2017-01-04 08:53:56] brojo : it seems like orderbook is frozen
[2017-01-04 08:54:05] brojo : is that just me?
[2017-01-04 08:54:31] MikeHunt : brojo: ive found browsers to be real buggy with chart stuff
[2017-01-04 08:54:34] dodic : looks live to me
[2017-01-04 08:54:46] MikeHunt : brojo: chrome doesnt like bitcoinwisdom but firefox can be buggy on here
[2017-01-04 08:57:20] immackay : MikeHunt: chrome doesn't like bitcoinwisdom?
[2017-01-04 08:57:25] immackay : that explains a lot
[2017-01-04 08:57:34] immackay : if only there was a browser that didn't suck
[2017-01-04 08:57:55] immackay : I need like a lightweight firefox
[2017-01-04 08:58:12] Milkman : here comes the dump
[2017-01-04 08:58:50] immackay : Milkman: nah I think the dump is over now
[2017-01-04 08:58:56] immackay : all in long
[2017-01-04 08:59:05] Milkman : good luck with that
[2017-01-04 08:59:27] Milkman : record amount of contracts for xbth17
[2017-01-04 08:59:29] Milkman : this wont end well
[2017-01-04 08:59:32] moo : okcoin hacked? looks weird
[2017-01-04 08:59:47] Milkman : $70 premium
[2017-01-04 08:59:50] immackay : why is bearstamp not dumping along with the rest of us
[2017-01-04 08:59:54] immackay : what is this
[2017-01-04 09:00:17] happy : X
[2017-01-04 09:00:25] happy : no money in account, should prepared
[2017-01-04 09:00:34] immackay : okcoin back and is dumping
[2017-01-04 09:00:54] QuantFocus : they switched to dump bots
[2017-01-04 09:01:49] QuantFocus : or....
[2017-01-04 09:02:03] QuantFocus : double pump
[2017-01-04 09:02:35] cryptomad : There is big dump coming soon..!!
[2017-01-04 09:02:55] cryptomad : 1055.!!
[2017-01-04 09:03:38] immackay : QuantFocus: yeah, they had to switch out their market movers
[2017-01-04 09:03:46] Milkman : ah china bots recovering price
[2017-01-04 09:03:54] Milkman : trying at least
[2017-01-04 09:04:03] MikeHunt : not a big dump
[2017-01-04 09:04:09] MikeHunt : fucking it into a triangle
[2017-01-04 09:04:12] MikeHunt : to push up again
[2017-01-04 09:04:43] immackay : "bitcoin never retraces" - the legacy of @rapidtrades
[2017-01-04 09:04:58] QuantFocus : trollin
[2017-01-04 09:05:17] MikeHunt : ive learned this from trying to short it, it always finds a way up
[2017-01-04 09:05:52] immackay : MikeHunt: i'll have you know I made a cool 0.0014 xbt off my short
[2017-01-04 09:06:11] QuantFocus : that's a lot nowadays
[2017-01-04 09:06:29] immackay : it's better than losing it I suppose
[2017-01-04 09:06:57] immackay : like I've gotten so good at doing
[2017-01-04 09:07:02] Milkman : 0kcoin going down for 45 minutes cant even produce a dump
[2017-01-04 09:07:04] immackay : why is no one getting rekt today?
[2017-01-04 09:07:15] immackay : this isn't like bitcoin
[2017-01-04 09:07:23] immackay : it's supposed to be tears and mayhem
[2017-01-04 09:07:24] laisee : all the shorts are gone
[2017-01-04 09:07:49] 5bg : Is there a way for me to lend money on bitmex?
[2017-01-04 09:08:00] QuantFocus : sounds like short time
[2017-01-04 09:08:05] immackay : 5bg: i don't think so
[2017-01-04 09:08:17] MikeHunt : 5bg: withdraw to another accounts deposit address?
[2017-01-04 09:08:25] immackay : QuantFocus: all in short let's goo
[2017-01-04 09:08:37] immackay : 5bg: you can lend it to me
[2017-01-04 09:08:39] QuantFocus : ok cool
[2017-01-04 09:08:41] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-01-04 09:08:43] nOgAnOo : Ok, I'm at a 3 dollar profit in the last 2 hours
[2017-01-04 09:08:44] nOgAnOo : :)
[2017-01-04 09:08:47] laisee : u can lend some of your money to Bitmex if you make a trade