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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-01-03 20:42:58] alejandromasari : Milkman: not worth reading [2017-01-03 20:43:28] QuantFocus : did someone say mandingo? [2017-01-03 20:43:46] Milkman : yeah QuantFocus we know ;) [2017-01-03 20:50:54] Milkman : btc trying to break up [2017-01-03 20:52:12] Headroom : Damn! I was not there when drama happened [2017-01-03 20:52:45] Headroom : let's move so [2017-01-03 20:53:01] Milkman : what does headroom mean [2017-01-03 20:53:06] Milkman : i could always use more headroom on airplanes [2017-01-03 20:53:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: does greece even hve any money to put in bitcoin though? [2017-01-03 20:54:40] sleger : MikeHunt: no but they use basic trades, for instance they have access to www.tradefetacheeseforbitcoin.com [2017-01-03 20:55:59] BitMEX_Sam : Hey, feta's expensive [2017-01-03 20:58:00] MikeHunt : sleger: you mean the 20% discount some restaurants give if you pay with bitcoin? [2017-01-03 20:58:15] MikeHunt : feta restaurants* [2017-01-03 20:58:32] Milkman : man wtf. forgot i had a buy order open on xmr [2017-01-03 20:58:48] Milkman : now i'm bagholding this shit hoping for a pump [2017-01-03 20:59:21] QuantFocus : lol [2017-01-03 20:59:24] MikeHunt : Milkman: u didnt short it? [2017-01-03 20:59:37] Milkman : hoping to buy low and sell on a pump [2017-01-03 20:59:44] Milkman : well i just did the buy low part [2017-01-03 20:59:52] MikeHunt : Milkman: what makes you think XMR can survive a bitcoin crash? pretty much all altcoins dont [2017-01-03 21:00:05] QuantFocus : what are you talking about? [2017-01-03 21:00:07] Milkman : alts pump on btc crash [2017-01-03 21:00:08] QuantFocus : alts thrive in btc crash [2017-01-03 21:00:42] sleger : he's been wrong on 95% of stuff he said here [2017-01-03 21:00:45] sleger : no surprise... [2017-01-03 21:00:50] sleger : also he is alejandro friend so.... [2017-01-03 21:08:33] wurstgelee : if btc crashes, all alts die [2017-01-03 21:08:40] wurstgelee : that's common knowledge [2017-01-03 21:09:09] wurstgelee : every successful trader who is into btc for 0 to 2 months knows that [2017-01-03 21:09:21] QuantFocus : o ya [2017-01-03 21:09:22] QuantFocus : my bad [2017-01-03 21:09:23] Milkman : well is btc crashes to double digits then probably [2017-01-03 21:09:30] wurstgelee : there are none >2 months who know that [2017-01-03 21:09:56] wurstgelee : Milkman: lol no :) [2017-01-03 21:10:20] Milkman : bitfinex $5 away from new high [2017-01-03 21:10:38] wurstgelee : my bad, i forgot the [bullshit/] tag [2017-01-03 21:10:47] Milkman : i think i'm going to install linux [2017-01-03 21:10:55] Milkman : fuck this windows bs [2017-01-03 21:11:03] QuantFocus : fakeout or breakout [2017-01-03 21:11:05] PARAFFIN : wurstgelee: lecker [2017-01-03 21:11:09] MikeHunt : i should point out it depends what altcoins your shorting [2017-01-03 21:11:14] wurstgelee : PARAFFIN: YES! [2017-01-03 21:11:45] wurstgelee : also no cares for any altcoins for many weeks now [2017-01-03 21:11:50] wurstgelee : it's king BTC time atm [2017-01-03 21:11:52] wurstgelee : obviously [2017-01-03 21:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 110 @ 0.009370 [2017-01-03 21:16:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 10 @ 0.015097 [2017-01-03 21:16:34] Milkman : ROFL xmr [2017-01-03 21:16:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 50 @ 0.014930 [2017-01-03 21:16:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 37 @ 0.015045 [2017-01-03 21:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 400 @ 0.014716 [2017-01-03 21:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 200 @ 0.014537 [2017-01-03 21:17:59] Milkman : either n00bs in xmr or just a mean whale [2017-01-03 21:18:18] PARAFFIN : maybe btc will pump? [2017-01-03 21:18:31] Milkman : looks like it will [2017-01-03 21:18:47] MikeHunt : with 1/2 correction? not far? [2017-01-03 21:19:19] Milkman : etc dumping now [2017-01-03 21:19:39] rms : bitfinex FOMO finally [2017-01-03 21:19:55] PARAFFIN : whats FOMO?? [2017-01-03 21:20:35] Milkman : Former Mormon [2017-01-03 21:20:51] QuantFocus : at least they're on the road to recovery [2017-01-03 21:20:54] QuantFocus : one step at a time [2017-01-03 21:22:18] MikeHunt : good place to crash it [2017-01-03 21:22:21] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: hey, how does bitmex you determine whether longs or shorts will pay funding [2017-01-03 21:22:25] MikeHunt : fomos would get woodchipped [2017-01-03 21:22:36] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: hey, how does bitmex determine whether longs or shorts will pay funding [2017-01-03 21:22:53] BitMEX_Sam : alejandromasari: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding [2017-01-03 21:23:01] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: The market determines this, we do not. [2017-01-03 21:23:15] BitMEX_Greg : Please take a read of the link Sam provided [2017-01-03 21:32:13] Milkman : btfd [2017-01-03 21:34:09] sleger : the d in btfd does not stand for "top", fyi [2017-01-03 21:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.001436 [2017-01-03 21:40:05] rapidtrades : PARAFFIN: FOMO = idiots panic buying [2017-01-03 21:40:21] rapidtrades : DOMO =idiots panic selling [2017-01-03 21:40:41] PARAFFIN : rapidtrades: OK =) [2017-01-03 21:40:53] PARAFFIN : SHOULD WE FOMO NOWẞ [2017-01-03 21:41:32] rapidtrades : no i'd wait until everyone's in [2017-01-03 21:41:57] PARAFFIN : you have good timing? [2017-01-03 21:42:20] rapidtrades : i have the worst timing [2017-01-03 21:42:51] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: gone long? [2017-01-03 21:43:24] rapidtrades : i haven't made any changes to my position [2017-01-03 21:49:23] BTCDJS : PARAFFIN: you can't keep trading like this. These guys didn't become decent enough at trading to sustain themselves by asking someone else what to do. [2017-01-03 21:49:51] BTCDJS : That was a description of rapid [2017-01-03 21:50:27] BTCDJS : sleger didn't become rich from trading by asking someone else when to buy and sell [2017-01-03 21:51:28] QuantFocus : how DID sleger get rich? [2017-01-03 21:51:35] QuantFocus : 1150 btc short to 350? [2017-01-03 21:51:41] alejandromasari : sleger went bust [2017-01-03 21:51:44] alejandromasari : he's gone [2017-01-03 21:52:13] QuantFocus : i hope to party in a $20M penthouse in NYC next year for NYE [2017-01-03 21:52:28] QuantFocus : I'm sure it's good clean fun [2017-01-03 21:52:43] BitMEX_Sam : Just remember whose penthouse it was :p [2017-01-03 21:53:15] QuantFocus : whose was it? [2017-01-03 21:53:31] QuantFocus : anyone know of pttx? [2017-01-03 21:53:50] BitMEX_Sam : Not mine, but not his either. [2017-01-03 21:54:54] QuantFocus : oh, for sure [2017-01-03 21:55:06] QuantFocus : did arthur bring you guys out to HK this year? [2017-01-03 21:55:33] alejandromasari : QuantFocus: he's full of shiet [2017-01-03 21:55:40] BTCDJS : Party was crap anyway. No dwarf throwing games [2017-01-03 21:55:49] sleger : alejandromasari: do not be jealous you have bigger arms than I do. [2017-01-03 22:00:43] rapidtrades : I think even if I told everyone how I trade 95% wouldn't follow it cos its too simple [2017-01-03 22:01:21] sleger : also maybe they dont want to buy zec at 3 :p [2017-01-03 22:01:35] rapidtrades : but when I was a newb I was all i [2017-01-03 22:01:52] sleger : anyone remembers the name of that surgical procedure, where they take parts of your brain and inject in your arm ? @alejandromasari maybe ? [2017-01-03 22:01:58] rapidtrades : but when I was a newb I was all into complicated shit and indicators and patterns [2017-01-03 22:02:13] rapidtrades : sry site froze on me again [2017-01-03 22:04:32] herpinator : im short looking for re-entry at 1018 is this dumb? [2017-01-03 22:07:21] Milkman : herpinator: shorting near the top isnt dumb. [2017-01-03 22:11:38] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: so please tel me how do you trade? Fib only? [2017-01-03 22:12:43] rapidtrades : no fibs [2017-01-03 22:12:46] BTCDJS : I like simple [2017-01-03 22:12:51] BTCDJS : spill it [2017-01-03 22:13:27] BTCDJS : S [2017-01-03 22:13:27] BTCDJS : P [2017-01-03 22:13:28] BTCDJS : I [2017-01-03 22:13:29] BTCDJS : L [2017-01-03 22:13:30] BTCDJS : L [2017-01-03 22:13:31] BTCDJS : I [2017-01-03 22:13:32] BTCDJS : T [2017-01-03 22:14:23] BTCDJS : Please? [2017-01-03 22:15:07] PARAFFIN : luck? [2017-01-03 22:15:53] rapidtrades : momentum [2017-01-03 22:16:21] Milkman : i trade based on the trollbox indicator [2017-01-03 22:16:41] BTCDJS : That single word can probably be elaborated into an essay [2017-01-03 22:17:00] BTCDJS : 30 pages long [2017-01-03 22:17:36] BTCDJS : back and front [2017-01-03 22:17:41] rapidtrades : pick any of the popular momentum trading rules and see how it performed on btc/usd [2017-01-03 22:18:10] rapidtrades : i'd wager 95% +of them made money [2017-01-03 22:18:48] Milkman : lol @ 0kcoin 12 hour candles. the last 3 [2017-01-03 22:18:59] Milkman : wicks, wicks everywhere [2017-01-03 22:19:17] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: ok I'll read up [2017-01-03 22:19:33] BTCDJS : thanks [2017-01-03 22:21:56] MikeHunt : if you delerage while in positive does some of the profit go back to your available balance? [2017-01-03 22:24:15] QuantFocus : i believe unrealized is even utilized for balance [2017-01-03 22:24:16] QuantFocus : so yes [2017-01-03 22:25:39] justinlooking : Milkman: the triple doji on 12 hour is v interesting, good spot [2017-01-03 22:26:13] Milkman : bots trying not to tip their next move to us [2017-01-03 22:28:06] MikeHunt : Milkman: they might tip the whole thing over in the process [2017-01-03 22:29:31] justinlooking : i challenge anyone to name a better ide than vscode [2017-01-03 22:30:09] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: https://xkcd.com/378/ [2017-01-03 22:30:30] justinlooking : :) [2017-01-03 22:30:31] narnarfromnarnia : triple doji [2017-01-03 22:30:33] narnarfromnarnia : wow [2017-01-03 22:30:42] narnarfromnarnia : collapse coming [2017-01-03 22:33:00] justinlooking : lol gg gl [2017-01-03 22:33:09] justinlooking : THY WILL BE REKT [2017-01-03 22:37:39] MikeHunt : spike up then down? [2017-01-03 22:38:25] PARAFFIN : check that stamp col [2017-01-03 22:38:30] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: if i deleverage a profitable trade do I get balance back in my account? [2017-01-03 22:38:47] BitMEX_Sam : Yes [2017-01-03 22:39:06] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Yes, if you close a trade at profit you get realised PNL which is immediately available [2017-01-03 22:39:24] imapotato : MM bots don't like it when I place a bid an ask each for 1 contract with a $0.01 spread. [2017-01-03 22:39:45] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: so if I slide the leverage back one for example from 10x to 5x, i get 5x worth of profit back in balance? [2017-01-03 22:40:31] justinlooking : wut no MikeHunt [2017-01-03 22:40:36] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: No, that does not change your position, it just changes how much margin is allocated to it [2017-01-03 22:40:58] BitMEX_Wally : I though you were talking about ADL (Automatically Deleveraging) which refers to the force closing of a position at a profit [2017-01-03 22:41:27] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: Hah, just be aware of https://blog.bitmex.com/notice-regarding-spam-orders/ [2017-01-03 22:42:31] imapotato : Ah, sorry for the micro-annoyance, but it's just 2 fun orders. I won't be flooding you with single contracts ;) [2017-01-03 22:43:02] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: No problem, two or three small orders is fine [2017-01-03 22:43:08] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: what about the profit made from the position? that remains untouched? [2017-01-03 22:43:22] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Yes, i remains as unrealised PNL [2017-01-03 22:43:34] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Changing the leverage does not change the size of the position, it changes the margin allocated to it [2017-01-03 22:43:52] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: ahh right thanks [2017-01-03 23:05:13] Milkman : bitfinex new high [2017-01-03 23:07:02] hobolowbo : Milkman: huh? [2017-01-03 23:07:08] hobolowbo : it hasn't hit 1036 again yet [2017-01-03 23:10:37] Milkman : i was away from keyboard when it happened [2017-01-03 23:11:00] hobolowbo : oh [2017-01-03 23:11:03] hobolowbo : it was like a couple hours ago [2017-01-03 23:12:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20 @ 1027.80 [2017-01-03 23:13:15] boomerang : here we gooooooo [2017-01-03 23:13:24] PARAFFIN : PUMP [2017-01-03 23:13:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1000 @ 1089.69 [2017-01-03 23:14:38] boomerang : due to break ATH [2017-01-03 23:16:16] PARAFFIN : wont stop anymore [2017-01-03 23:16:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4 @ 1034.62 :punch: :whale: [2017-01-03 23:16:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5500 @ 1034.27 [2017-01-03 23:16:50] imapotato : new rally high on finex [2017-01-03 23:16:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 27595 @ 1035.61 [2017-01-03 23:16:51] REKT : MOOON TIME! [2017-01-03 23:16:52] imapotato : woop woop [2017-01-03 23:17:15] imapotato : new rally high on bitstamp also [2017-01-03 23:17:30] dannybreal : rektt [2017-01-03 23:17:46] dannybreal : good old days are back :) [2017-01-03 23:18:25] imapotato : How does bitmex handle rounding/precision? [2017-01-03 23:19:01] imapotato : >XBTUSD Trade Buy 1 1028.00 -0.0010 XBT -0.0250% -0.000000 XBT >XBTUSD Trade Sell 1 1028.01 0.0010 XBT -0.0250% -0.000000 XBT [2017-01-03 23:19:05] imapotato : Looks like I didn't make anything :( [2017-01-03 23:19:36] sleger : they round down 1 contract to 0 [2017-01-03 23:19:40] sleger : so you did trade nothing [2017-01-03 23:19:43] sleger : trade bigger [2017-01-03 23:19:45] sleger : or go home [2017-01-03 23:20:11] imapotato : Was just messing around, figuring things out. [2017-01-03 23:20:18] imapotato : So what happens if I put up an order for 1k contracts [2017-01-03 23:20:25] imapotato : and it gets eaten by 1000 trades at 1 contract each? [2017-01-03 23:20:28] sleger : then it works [2017-01-03 23:20:33] imapotato : ^^ [2017-01-03 23:21:11] imapotato : I know Dingaling would probably get banished for spamming, but would my order get screwed? [2017-01-03 23:21:28] BitMEX_Greg : imapotato: Rounding is done to 1 satoshi [2017-01-03 23:22:58] imapotato : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks. [2017-01-03 23:23:10] imapotato : That precision wasn't shown, but I switched to satoshis in settings. [2017-01-03 23:23:25] imapotato : And I see that I made 48 satoshis in fees and 1 satoshi on the trade XD [2017-01-03 23:23:30] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah for display purposes we round to 4dp I believe [2017-01-03 23:23:38] imapotato : Plenty of precision, thanks. [2017-01-03 23:23:44] imapotato : I'm seeing 6 zeros past the DP [2017-01-03 23:23:44] BitMEX_Greg : :+1: [2017-01-03 23:23:59] imapotato : Also, it still shows 6 DP when satohis is chosen, but those will literally always be 0s. [2017-01-03 23:24:12] imapotato : Extremely minor, but might want to hide DP for satoshis. [2017-01-03 23:24:59] imapotato : (in the Fee Paid column) [2017-01-03 23:25:41] QuantFocus : exit pump [2017-01-03 23:26:05] narnarfromnarnia : QuantFocus: i think so too [2017-01-03 23:26:40] imapotato : I think so too, but I only have 4x leverage and I'm riding out whatever. [2017-01-03 23:27:25] boomerang : stamp is rallying again [2017-01-03 23:27:38] MikeHunt : not goin anywhere near this [2017-01-03 23:28:02] Milkman : nice stamp pump [2017-01-03 23:28:06] Milkman : finex and stamp new highs [2017-01-03 23:28:37] deep : so what high we can expect today? [2017-01-03 23:28:44] unicorns_rainbows : do quarterlies close at the last price or the mark price [2017-01-03 23:29:07] PARAFFIN : fuckshitstack: nice name [2017-01-03 23:29:21] unicorns_rainbows : lol the word filter [2017-01-03 23:29:23] PARAFFIN : lol [2017-01-03 23:32:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.001423 [2017-01-03 23:32:56] Milkman : xbth17 10 away from new high and new margin calls [2017-01-03 23:33:06] BTCDJS : Adam and Eve [2017-01-03 23:33:15] BTCDJS : one more leg [2017-01-03 23:35:01] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: another wave? [2017-01-03 23:35:28] BTCDJS : If we break through this resistance yes [2017-01-03 23:35:45] dannybreal : everything closes at MARK [2017-01-03 23:36:00] micmix : imapotato: click your name in the top-right corner and select currency XBt to show full values in satoshi [2017-01-03 23:36:23] BTCDJS : Fined made a new high [2017-01-03 23:36:47] imapotato : micmix: Already got it, but thanks for the tip >That precision wasn't shown, but I switched to satoshis in settings. >And I see that I made 48 satoshis in fees and 1 satoshi on the trade XD [2017-01-03 23:36:50] BTCDJS : chine is brushing their teeth and having their coffee [2017-01-03 23:36:51] QuantFocus : pamp it [2017-01-03 23:37:10] BTCDJS : Finex stupid phone [2017-01-03 23:37:16] micmix : imapotato: ah ok, missed it [2017-01-03 23:37:20] justinlooking : is there a way to disable flashing? [2017-01-03 23:37:48] BTCDJS : Good question [2017-01-03 23:37:58] BTCDJS : it's annoying [2017-01-03 23:38:54] justinlooking : i only wanna disable it to see how much less cpu rapey bitmex is [2017-01-03 23:39:52] gustavo7 : wow [2017-01-03 23:40:07] BTCDJS : Fomo is on [2017-01-03 23:40:30] BTCDJS : China had their coffee [2017-01-03 23:40:48] gustavo7 : was in at 37 but stop 31 got hit [2017-01-03 23:42:20] PARAFFIN : waiting for euro 10000 [2017-01-03 23:42:22] PARAFFIN : 1k [2017-01-03 23:42:38] imapotato : round two :O [2017-01-03 23:43:22] mariomarco : imapotato: rekt round coming up next [2017-01-03 23:43:49] PARAFFIN : mariomarco: why? [2017-01-03 23:44:58] VenezuelanPower : good morning China !!! [2017-01-03 23:44:59] dannybreal : all them graphs look so damn fine for the moon [2017-01-03 23:45:14] dannybreal : houston we have liftoff [2017-01-03 23:46:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8 @ 1037.65 [2017-01-03 23:46:40] dannybreal : yes [2017-01-03 23:46:47] VenezuelanPower : We need venezuelan cheap gas to go to the moon [2017-01-03 23:46:48] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Best way to reduce the CPU usage is to minimize the chart [2017-01-03 23:46:53] BitMEX_Sam : But I'll add an option to disable animations [2017-01-03 23:47:14] justinlooking : thanks sam, just trying to dick with the css now see if it makes a difference [2017-01-03 23:47:25] MikeHunt : shorts pay fee at 12:00 ? [2017-01-03 23:47:42] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: in 4 hours [2017-01-03 23:47:43] justinlooking : laptop gets hot whenever it's fast... chrome task manager says it's muh 4 bitmex tabs [2017-01-03 23:47:53] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: set `td.isNew, td.isNew2 { animation: none !important; }` [2017-01-03 23:47:57] justinlooking : i need a better potato... [2017-01-03 23:47:57] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: negative = shorters pay ? [2017-01-03 23:48:06] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: Correct [2017-01-03 23:48:22] BitMEX_Sam : However animations don't play when the tab isn't active, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal with multiple tabs [2017-01-03 23:48:30] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: ok thanks! [2017-01-03 23:49:44] imapotato : http://i.imgur.com/MdspVyR.png [2017-01-03 23:50:05] imapotato : MSM is just now acknowledging that Bitcoin might be a good investment. [2017-01-03 23:50:12] imapotato : The long term rally is just getting started. [2017-01-03 23:50:56] imapotato : justinlooking: > i need a better potato... Excuse me? [2017-01-03 23:51:03] zach719 : to late to buy? [2017-01-03 23:51:10] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: hi in account >open positions> realised pl: is that all the profit I made since I joined bitmex? [2017-01-03 23:51:14] narnarfromnarnia : zach719: yes [2017-01-03 23:51:18] MikeHunt : looks like pump n dump stage [2017-01-03 23:51:21] zach719 : narnarfromnarnia: grrr [2017-01-03 23:51:22] imapotato : stamp passed bitfinex [2017-01-03 23:51:26] narnarfromnarnia : zach719: just short [2017-01-03 23:51:28] narnarfromnarnia : the top [2017-01-03 23:51:29] hobolowbo : why would my liquidation lights go up as my investment is gaining profit? [2017-01-03 23:51:31] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: Yes this is life to date PNL basically [2017-01-03 23:51:34] mariomarco : MikeHunt: +1 [2017-01-03 23:51:34] narnarfromnarnia : goes both ways :) [2017-01-03 23:51:35] Milkman : dat new money fomo buying on stamp [2017-01-03 23:51:41] mariomarco : Milkman: +1 [2017-01-03 23:51:59] Milkman : 25 cny from china fomoing to 7500+ [2017-01-03 23:52:02] mariomarco : Milkman: imagine when they start getting rekt :D can you spell chain reaction [2017-01-03 23:52:09] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: You can hover over the number also to see the previous realised PNL since the last entry [2017-01-03 23:52:42] alejandromasari : what number [2017-01-03 23:52:46] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Greg: why would my liquidation lights go up when there's more profit? [2017-01-03 23:52:50] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: i hover nothing happens' [2017-01-03 23:52:56] Milkman : china was 16 cny away. one more fomo buy and they're off [2017-01-03 23:53:04] blacktuesday : mooooooon [2017-01-03 23:54:02] zach719 : duuuuuuuump [2017-01-03 23:54:25] Milkman : china going the wrong way [2017-01-03 23:54:31] QuantFocus : guys, there are no shorts to wreck [2017-01-03 23:54:38] Milkman : new high bitfinex. nice fomo buy [2017-01-03 23:54:44] QuantFocus : short usage is near the lowest it's ever been [2017-01-03 23:55:06] PARAFFIN : QuantFocus: is this bad? [2017-01-03 23:55:34] QuantFocus : no, but people that think margin calls are going to drive price are wrong [2017-01-03 23:55:45] narnarfromnarnia : QuantFocus: it's coming down from here imo [2017-01-03 23:55:53] Milkman : bitmex guys. why cant open interest show the # of contracts always. i hate having to hover over it to see it [2017-01-03 23:56:01] hobolowbo : can someone help me figure out why my leverage used is going up even tho im in profit zone? [2017-01-03 23:56:03] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: It is based on Profit priority [2017-01-03 23:56:11] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: profit and leverage [2017-01-03 23:56:32] hobolowbo : will i get liquidated if the price moved up from my buy price??? [2017-01-03 23:56:58] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: Your leverage should decrease as your profit increases as your unrealised PNL adds to the margin of the position [2017-01-03 23:57:28] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Greg: thats what i thought too... but when i started my position i had 3 green lights now i have 3 greens and one light green so 4 total [2017-01-03 23:57:36] hobolowbo : and the price only went up from where i bought it at [2017-01-03 23:57:45] hobolowbo : and so did the mark price... [2017-01-03 23:57:51] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: Please take a read of https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging#ADL-Priority-Deleveraging-Ranking [2017-01-03 23:58:22] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Greg: i read this carefully before... and it makes no sense i have to say the margin calcultor [2017-01-03 23:58:27] micmix : hobolowbo: it's not liquidation indicator, it's adl indicator [2017-01-03 23:58:40] MikeHunt : wonder if this is timed to catch all the fomos and get them to buy last pump [2017-01-03 23:59:54] micmix : hobolowbo: adl is like the opposite of liquidattion, your position is closed in profit because lots of other people got margin called [2017-01-04 00:00:08] hobolowbo : oh [2017-01-04 00:00:22] hobolowbo : micmix: should i have traded differently then? [2017-01-04 00:00:57] imapotato : I should set up a bitmex data site and refer users with the affiliate program... [2017-01-04 00:01:05] imapotato : Lots of neat data here to show. [2017-01-04 00:01:05] micmix : hobolowbo: don't think so, just pay attention to your liquidation price showed under open positions [2017-01-04 00:01:18] hobolowbo : micmix: ya i'm far from that [2017-01-04 00:01:33] micmix : then you are fine [2017-01-04 00:01:47] hobolowbo : micmix: so your'e saying the more ppl get liquidated for their position the less there are open positions that can support the unrealizsed theoretical profit i have right? [2017-01-04 00:02:28] BitMEX_Sam : imapotato: That's a good idea [2017-01-04 00:02:34] Milkman : MikeHunt: i wouldnt be surprised to see a massive amount of selling into the buying around 7800 cny until the buyers are exhausted and then the big dump [2017-01-04 00:02:39] BitMEX_Sam : I haven't had the time to set up interesting visualizations but I could certainly show you how to get the data you need [2017-01-04 00:02:51] micmix : hobolowbo: basically yes, and if you have high unrealized pnl and high leverage, you are higher on the list for adl [2017-01-04 00:02:53] MikeHunt : Milkman: you think this can reach 7800 ? [2017-01-04 00:03:06] MikeHunt : Milkman: you mean 7800 on xbc ? [2017-01-04 00:03:08] hobolowbo : micmix: ok that makes perfect sense, thank you! [2017-01-04 00:03:17] imapotato : BitMEX_Sam: I'm assuming the fee discount and fee commission don't count on negative fees? Would suck to get charged for referring somebody that only gets maker fees. [2017-01-04 00:03:58] shiroe : 7500 incoming to 7600. [2017-01-04 00:04:04] imapotato : eating $1040 on bitfinex [2017-01-04 00:04:11] imapotato : 400 coins to chew [2017-01-04 00:04:12] Milkman : 7800 cny on 0kcoin [2017-01-04 00:04:23] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: For the affiliate calculations we look at gross fees paid, not net [2017-01-04 00:05:22] dannybreal : what are the chipper doji telling to you guys? [2017-01-04 00:09:45] cryptobull : BitMEX_Wally: any way for me too see how many *active* referreals I've got? [2017-01-04 00:10:43] justinlooking : i am failing at chrome inspector sam [2017-01-04 00:11:19] BitMEX_Wally : cryptobull: Not at the moment, send us an email and we can probably dig out some more information for you [2017-01-04 00:11:31] justinlooking : can i plug `td.isNew, td.isNew2 { animation: none !important; }` in somewhere or have to greasemonkey? [2017-01-04 00:11:43] cryptobull : BitMEX_Wally: cool, thanks. [2017-01-04 00:13:38] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Hit the `x` in the style inspector in the Elements tab [2017-01-04 00:13:48] BitMEX_Sam : I'm assuming Chrome [2017-01-04 00:14:27] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, Chrome/Chromium/Opera is much better on CPU on bmex in my experience [2017-01-04 00:14:53] boomerang : btc/yuan making moves [2017-01-04 00:15:07] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Same `+` though on FF in the Inspector tab [2017-01-04 00:15:21] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: you need help debugging somn in chrome? [2017-01-04 00:15:24] hobolowbo : i can help [2017-01-04 00:15:37] BitMEX_Sam : Nope - just a user wanting to disable animations to see if it will affect CPU [2017-01-04 00:15:45] hobolowbo : oh [2017-01-04 00:15:47] BitMEX_Sam : I'm going to add an option for this for those of you who are sensitive to it [2017-01-04 00:16:45] Milkman : there goes china [2017-01-04 00:17:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 100000 @ 7834.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished: [2017-01-04 00:17:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30000 @ 1039.41 [2017-01-04 00:17:30] Apocalyptic : China's pumping is strong [2017-01-04 00:18:27] shiroe : 7777 incoming! [2017-01-04 00:18:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1040.16 [2017-01-04 00:19:20] Alls : Rekt [2017-01-04 00:19:22] boomerang : buckle up! [2017-01-04 00:19:35] Alls : Bit is going strong too 1044 [2017-01-04 00:19:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 5000 @ 7852.6 [2017-01-04 00:21:02] gustavo7 : 1000 EUR on Kraken [2017-01-04 00:22:23] PARAFFIN : 1000 EUR!!! [2017-01-04 00:23:23] shiroe : btc-e the last one. [2017-01-04 00:23:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 2140 @ 0.015289 [2017-01-04 00:24:42] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: what fees do you pay if you open an order as a passive order but sell with a market order? [2017-01-04 00:25:28] narnarfromnarnia : big dump pump [2017-01-04 00:25:34] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: If you open with a maker order then you receive 0.025% on that position. If you then close it with a taker order then you pay 0.075% [2017-01-04 00:25:53] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Greg: thx [2017-01-04 00:31:05] NooBTCrader : So we pumpin' or what? [2017-01-04 00:31:36] mariomarco : NooBTCrader: nah man [2017-01-04 00:31:41] mariomarco : its canceled [2017-01-04 00:31:53] dannybreal : :D [2017-01-04 00:32:00] mariomarco : NooBTCrader: i just got a phone call from the china central comitee [2017-01-04 00:32:12] Apocalyptic : NooBTCrader: pump it like it's hot [2017-01-04 00:32:22] dannybreal : chinese don't think it's cancelled , look at the 1H graph :D :D [2017-01-04 00:32:23] mariomarco : Apocalyptic: D oh double G [2017-01-04 00:32:36] NooBTCrader : I already have my party hat ready [2017-01-04 00:32:48] dannybreal : white [2017-01-04 00:33:04] dannybreal : drop party free BTC [2017-01-04 00:33:17] zach719 : dump? [2017-01-04 00:33:25] narnarfromnarnia : zach719: yes [2017-01-04 00:33:31] narnarfromnarnia : mother of dumps if this doesn't hold [2017-01-04 00:33:41] narnarfromnarnia : it could hold though [2017-01-04 00:34:19] mariomarco : too many green acandles for my liking [2017-01-04 00:34:49] dannybreal : weak r shaken off by the accumulating chinese [2017-01-04 00:35:20] mariomarco : back to 900 now :D [2017-01-04 00:35:26] mariomarco : :P [2017-01-04 00:35:40] dannybreal : its not even a reversal :D [2017-01-04 00:35:45] startChat : Bitmex_Sam: triggering price has trouble updating sometimes. on refresh they show correct value [2017-01-04 00:36:12] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: [2017-01-04 00:36:18] BitMEX_Sam : startChat: Will take a look [2017-01-04 00:36:29] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, I get the ping regardless of case, and you can autofill usernames by hitting <tab> [2017-01-04 00:36:57] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: Happened yesterday also. [2017-01-04 00:37:04] XXXX : mariomarco: denial could cost you some serious money. Dont fight he trend. [2017-01-04 00:37:10] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: suggestion: convert your automated messages to be PGP encrypted too if the user has put a PGP key in their profile [2017-01-04 00:37:13] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: nice tab feature [2017-01-04 00:37:41] dannybreal : dab [2017-01-04 00:37:46] BitMEX_Sam : hobolowbo: All the system messages that contain account information are encrypted. [2017-01-04 00:38:23] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: perhaps pertinent account info, but security sensitive people don't like any of their activities leaked out so when you send "hey thanks for sending your first deposit" email - it doens't bode well [2017-01-04 00:38:39] BitMEX_Sam : Oh sure, that's through an external service; that's a good point [2017-01-04 00:39:14] BitMEX_Sam : Great suggestion @hobolowbo [2017-01-04 00:39:22] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: anytime! [2017-01-04 00:43:55] imapotato : rocket ship [2017-01-04 00:50:41] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: how can enable an audio alert when an order fills [2017-01-04 00:50:46] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: this is crucial [2017-01-04 00:51:58] sleger : turn up the volume [2017-01-04 00:55:14] NooBTCrader : I've never been this long. Leverage is addictive [2017-01-04 00:56:14] j8 : yeah it'll bankrupt you like an addiction too [2017-01-04 00:56:32] sleger : REKT: we have a target for you [2017-01-04 00:59:40] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: by the way I meant to report this bug for a long time. The pop up alerts are empty when stop orders get triggered. [2017-01-04 00:59:54] Rado2 : sleger: who is the target? [2017-01-04 01:00:11] sleger : Rado2: "NooBTCrader: I've never been this long. Leverage is addictive" [2017-01-04 01:00:23] Rado2 : lol [2017-01-04 01:00:28] Rado2 : give it a day [2017-01-04 01:00:56] Rado2 : sleger: by the way I got stopped out from my H17 [2017-01-04 01:01:18] sleger : Rado2: you were long ? [2017-01-04 01:01:26] Rado2 : short [2017-01-04 01:01:37] sleger : it went just as high before [2017-01-04 01:01:48] hobolowbo : if u hit close on an order u opened as a post-only, would it post-only automatically on close as well? [2017-01-04 01:01:49] micmix : Rado2: boo, stops are for pussies, use liq price like all cool kids [2017-01-04 01:01:51] Rado2 : remember we shorted around 1000 [2017-01-04 01:02:00] Rado2 : micmix: he he [2017-01-04 01:02:20] Rado2 : micmix: my bot has been performing much better after a few adjustments [2017-01-04 01:02:26] Rado2 : still have a list of things to add [2017-01-04 01:03:03] Rado2 : micmix: do you use nonce or expire for your API calls? [2017-01-04 01:03:09] Rado2 : expires [2017-01-04 01:04:17] micmix : Rado2: expires, I send several requests at once and nonce wouldn't work [2017-01-04 01:04:28] Rado2 : right [2017-01-04 01:04:32] Rado2 : I am changing to this as well [2017-01-04 01:04:46] Rado2 : I see errors in my log right now [2017-01-04 01:05:34] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: see my question [2017-01-04 01:05:59] Rado2 : hobolowbo: under settings you can turn on/off sound alerts [2017-01-04 01:06:24] Rado2 : hobolowbo: https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences [2017-01-04 01:06:43] Rado2 : under Sounds [2017-01-04 01:09:07] j8 : you got the wrong guy [2017-01-04 01:09:27] foobar : Do you get paid interest in short futures? [2017-01-04 01:09:56] Rado2 : j8: I did? [2017-01-04 01:10:16] Rado2 : I see [2017-01-04 01:10:16] sleger : i was wondering the same [2017-01-04 01:10:17] Rado2 : :-) [2017-01-04 01:10:52] Rado2 : alejandromasari: under settings you can turn on/off sound alerts hobolowbo: https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences under Sounds [2017-01-04 01:11:29] Alls : Yo any site admin/mod around [2017-01-04 01:11:49] Rado2 : Alls: sleger is the master [2017-01-04 01:11:52] Alls : My built in chart suddenly turn all green =/ can't see anything from it [2017-01-04 01:12:05] Rado2 : refresh? [2017-01-04 01:12:07] Alls : I am on mobile using chrome browser [2017-01-04 01:12:12] Alls : Doesn't work [2017-01-04 01:13:32] alejandromasari : I think we see 1500 this year and it becomes the new floor [2017-01-04 01:13:52] imapotato : $10k new floor by June [2017-01-04 01:14:14] mariomarco : imapotato: :P [2017-01-04 01:14:20] mariomarco : 100$ [2017-01-04 01:14:53] dannybreal : limit close will buy @ mar price or orderbook [2017-01-04 01:22:06] dannybreal : mark price or last price [2017-01-04 01:26:11] imapotato : Continuing to push up the rally high across the board :D [2017-01-04 01:26:58] zach719 : no dump [2017-01-04 01:27:03] zach719 : and i shorted :( [2017-01-04 01:27:10] imapotato : no brakes [2017-01-04 01:27:17] imapotato : never short bitcoin [2017-01-04 01:27:32] imapotato : finex pushing against 1050! [2017-01-04 01:27:46] imapotato : 544 coins to eat for 1050 [2017-01-04 01:28:09] unicorns_rainbows : lol short [2017-01-04 01:29:07] rms : What happens to the futures markets though if everyone figures out you shkuld [2017-01-04 01:29:13] l3f : guys surely this is top[ [2017-01-04 01:29:24] rms : never short bitcoin? [2017-01-04 01:29:27] Rado2 : l3f: how so? [2017-01-04 01:29:37] l3f : Rado2: it's a joke [2017-01-04 01:29:47] l3f : I've been repeating that line every 'time we make a new high [2017-01-04 01:29:50] unicorns_rainbows : i'm just wondering, why my username has changed [2017-01-04 01:29:56] micmix : wait for this guys to sell his stash: https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonalFinanceCanada/comments/5lkgbb/if_i_sell_a_large_amount_of_bitcoin_how_am_i_taxed/ [2017-01-04 01:30:11] imapotato : unicorns_rainbows: previous username? was probably offensive [2017-01-04 01:30:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 56887 @ 1116.25 **MEGA-REKT** :boom: [2017-01-04 01:30:20] JuriFX : thanks bulls, I like being part of your team ;) [2017-01-04 01:30:27] unicorns_rainbows : oh gotcha, well it was good while it lasted [2017-01-04 01:30:34] imapotato : >56887 ouch [2017-01-04 01:32:33] imapotato : The real fireworks come out once support is established at the previous ATH. [2017-01-04 01:34:37] MikeHunt : looks like its gone too far up to correct now [2017-01-04 01:34:42] MikeHunt : unless you mean back to 900 [2017-01-04 01:35:37] mariomarco : MikeHunt: 880 [2017-01-04 01:35:39] mariomarco : :D [2017-01-04 01:36:41] foobar : when you guys are using bots, are you doing arbitrage, speculating, or both? [2017-01-04 01:37:00] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i mean 900 mean, it will go lower than 880 as corrects imo [2017-01-04 01:37:17] mariomarco : yes :D [2017-01-04 01:37:28] foobar : and is it best to go with the python skeleton code on github or is there something else people are using? [2017-01-04 01:40:41] arbitrage001 : good morning, fellow trolls [2017-01-04 01:40:53] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing [2017-01-04 01:41:05] arbitrage001 : getting rich again? [2017-01-04 01:42:35] alejandromasari : hey what does cross mean?] [2017-01-04 01:43:17] NooBTCrader : X [2017-01-04 01:43:38] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: what does cross mean in the leverage bar? [2017-01-04 01:43:42] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross [2017-01-04 01:44:13] BitMEX_Sam : alejandromasari: It means cross margin, as in using your entire account balance to back the position [2017-01-04 01:45:59] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: my unrealized p&l is -63%? but my entry is 1046 [2017-01-04 01:47:12] l3f : Who didn't buy and hold? [2017-01-04 01:47:19] l3f : Look at prices now [2017-01-04 01:47:26] l3f : if you only bought and held [2017-01-04 01:47:40] alejandromasari : all traders here [2017-01-04 01:47:49] alejandromasari : leverage junkies [2017-01-04 01:48:01] l3f : Buy at <10x leverage [2017-01-04 01:48:06] l3f : and hold through the dips [2017-01-04 01:48:08] j8 : i didn't buy and hold, but i did outperform the bitcoin price, so no complaints [2017-01-04 01:48:15] l3f : j8: very nice