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[2017-01-03 20:40:00] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/yuan-dumps-bitcoin-jumps-china-researchers-suggest-one-devaluation-capital-controls
[2017-01-03 20:40:17] rapidtrades : and this
[2017-01-03 20:40:22] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/bitcoin-surges-above-1000-china-unveils-new-capital-controls
[2017-01-03 20:40:43] Milkman : i hear zerohedge is fear mongering
[2017-01-03 20:41:36] rapidtrades : that's funny cos they one link i saw posted today on r/bitcoin was about cash ban in greece
[2017-01-03 20:41:56] rapidtrades : guess we ignore ZH when it doesn't suit the narrative
[2017-01-03 20:42:49] alejandromasari : Milkman: it is
[2017-01-03 20:42:58] alejandromasari : Milkman: not worth reading
[2017-01-03 20:43:28] QuantFocus : did someone say mandingo?
[2017-01-03 20:43:46] Milkman : yeah QuantFocus we know ;)
[2017-01-03 20:50:54] Milkman : btc trying to break up
[2017-01-03 20:52:12] Headroom : Damn! I was not there when drama happened
[2017-01-03 20:52:45] Headroom : let's move so
[2017-01-03 20:53:01] Milkman : what does headroom mean
[2017-01-03 20:53:06] Milkman : i could always use more headroom on airplanes
[2017-01-03 20:53:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: does greece even hve any money to put in bitcoin though?
[2017-01-03 20:54:40] sleger : MikeHunt: no but they use basic trades, for instance they have access to www.tradefetacheeseforbitcoin.com
[2017-01-03 20:55:59] BitMEX_Sam : Hey, feta's expensive
[2017-01-03 20:58:00] MikeHunt : sleger: you mean the 20% discount some restaurants give if you pay with bitcoin?
[2017-01-03 20:58:15] MikeHunt : feta restaurants*
[2017-01-03 20:58:32] Milkman : man wtf. forgot i had a buy order open on xmr
[2017-01-03 20:58:48] Milkman : now i'm bagholding this shit hoping for a pump
[2017-01-03 20:59:21] QuantFocus : lol
[2017-01-03 20:59:24] MikeHunt : Milkman: u didnt short it?
[2017-01-03 20:59:37] Milkman : hoping to buy low and sell on a pump
[2017-01-03 20:59:44] Milkman : well i just did the buy low part
[2017-01-03 20:59:52] MikeHunt : Milkman: what makes you think XMR can survive a bitcoin crash? pretty much all altcoins dont
[2017-01-03 21:00:05] QuantFocus : what are you talking about?
[2017-01-03 21:00:07] Milkman : alts pump on btc crash
[2017-01-03 21:00:08] QuantFocus : alts thrive in btc crash
[2017-01-03 21:00:42] sleger : he's been wrong on 95% of stuff he said here
[2017-01-03 21:00:45] sleger : no surprise...
[2017-01-03 21:00:50] sleger : also he is alejandro friend so....
[2017-01-03 21:08:33] wurstgelee : if btc crashes, all alts die
[2017-01-03 21:08:40] wurstgelee : that's common knowledge
[2017-01-03 21:09:09] wurstgelee : every successful trader who is into btc for 0 to 2 months knows that
[2017-01-03 21:09:21] QuantFocus : o ya
[2017-01-03 21:09:22] QuantFocus : my bad
[2017-01-03 21:09:23] Milkman : well is btc crashes to double digits then probably
[2017-01-03 21:09:30] wurstgelee : there are none >2 months who know that
[2017-01-03 21:09:56] wurstgelee : Milkman: lol no :)
[2017-01-03 21:10:20] Milkman : bitfinex $5 away from new high
[2017-01-03 21:10:38] wurstgelee : my bad, i forgot the [bullshit/] tag
[2017-01-03 21:10:47] Milkman : i think i'm going to install linux
[2017-01-03 21:10:55] Milkman : fuck this windows bs
[2017-01-03 21:11:03] QuantFocus : fakeout or breakout
[2017-01-03 21:11:05] PARAFFIN : wurstgelee: lecker
[2017-01-03 21:11:09] MikeHunt : i should point out it depends what altcoins your shorting
[2017-01-03 21:11:14] wurstgelee : PARAFFIN: YES!
[2017-01-03 21:11:45] wurstgelee : also no cares for any altcoins for many weeks now
[2017-01-03 21:11:50] wurstgelee : it's king BTC time atm
[2017-01-03 21:11:52] wurstgelee : obviously
[2017-01-03 21:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 110 @ 0.009370
[2017-01-03 21:16:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 10 @ 0.015097
[2017-01-03 21:16:34] Milkman : ROFL xmr
[2017-01-03 21:16:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 50 @ 0.014930
[2017-01-03 21:16:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 37 @ 0.015045
[2017-01-03 21:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 400 @ 0.014716
[2017-01-03 21:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 200 @ 0.014537
[2017-01-03 21:17:59] Milkman : either n00bs in xmr or just a mean whale
[2017-01-03 21:18:18] PARAFFIN : maybe btc will pump?
[2017-01-03 21:18:31] Milkman : looks like it will
[2017-01-03 21:18:47] MikeHunt : with 1/2 correction? not far?
[2017-01-03 21:19:19] Milkman : etc dumping now
[2017-01-03 21:19:39] rms : bitfinex FOMO finally
[2017-01-03 21:19:55] PARAFFIN : whats FOMO??
[2017-01-03 21:20:35] Milkman : Former Mormon
[2017-01-03 21:20:51] QuantFocus : at least they're on the road to recovery
[2017-01-03 21:20:54] QuantFocus : one step at a time
[2017-01-03 21:22:18] MikeHunt : good place to crash it
[2017-01-03 21:22:21] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: hey, how does bitmex you determine whether longs or shorts will pay funding
[2017-01-03 21:22:25] MikeHunt : fomos would get woodchipped
[2017-01-03 21:22:36] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: hey, how does bitmex determine whether longs or shorts will pay funding
[2017-01-03 21:22:53] BitMEX_Sam : alejandromasari: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-01-03 21:23:01] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: The market determines this, we do not.
[2017-01-03 21:23:15] BitMEX_Greg : Please take a read of the link Sam provided
[2017-01-03 21:32:13] Milkman : btfd
[2017-01-03 21:34:09] sleger : the d in btfd does not stand for "top", fyi
[2017-01-03 21:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.001436
[2017-01-03 21:40:05] rapidtrades : PARAFFIN: FOMO = idiots panic buying
[2017-01-03 21:40:21] rapidtrades : DOMO =idiots panic selling
[2017-01-03 21:40:41] PARAFFIN : rapidtrades: OK =)
[2017-01-03 21:40:53] PARAFFIN : SHOULD WE FOMO NOWẞ
[2017-01-03 21:41:32] rapidtrades : no i'd wait until everyone's in
[2017-01-03 21:41:57] PARAFFIN : you have good timing?
[2017-01-03 21:42:20] rapidtrades : i have the worst timing
[2017-01-03 21:42:51] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: gone long?
[2017-01-03 21:43:24] rapidtrades : i haven't made any changes to my position
[2017-01-03 21:49:23] BTCDJS : PARAFFIN: you can't keep trading like this. These guys didn't become decent enough at trading to sustain themselves by asking someone else what to do.
[2017-01-03 21:49:51] BTCDJS : That was a description of rapid
[2017-01-03 21:50:27] BTCDJS : sleger didn't become rich from trading by asking someone else when to buy and sell
[2017-01-03 21:51:28] QuantFocus : how DID sleger get rich?
[2017-01-03 21:51:35] QuantFocus : 1150 btc short to 350?
[2017-01-03 21:51:41] alejandromasari : sleger went bust
[2017-01-03 21:51:44] alejandromasari : he's gone
[2017-01-03 21:52:13] QuantFocus : i hope to party in a $20M penthouse in NYC next year for NYE
[2017-01-03 21:52:28] QuantFocus : I'm sure it's good clean fun
[2017-01-03 21:52:43] BitMEX_Sam : Just remember whose penthouse it was :p
[2017-01-03 21:53:15] QuantFocus : whose was it?
[2017-01-03 21:53:31] QuantFocus : anyone know of pttx?
[2017-01-03 21:53:50] BitMEX_Sam : Not mine, but not his either.
[2017-01-03 21:54:54] QuantFocus : oh, for sure
[2017-01-03 21:55:06] QuantFocus : did arthur bring you guys out to HK this year?
[2017-01-03 21:55:33] alejandromasari : QuantFocus: he's full of shiet
[2017-01-03 21:55:40] BTCDJS : Party was crap anyway. No dwarf throwing games
[2017-01-03 21:55:49] sleger : alejandromasari: do not be jealous you have bigger arms than I do.
[2017-01-03 22:00:43] rapidtrades : I think even if I told everyone how I trade 95% wouldn't follow it cos its too simple
[2017-01-03 22:01:21] sleger : also maybe they dont want to buy zec at 3 :p
[2017-01-03 22:01:35] rapidtrades : but when I was a newb I was all i
[2017-01-03 22:01:52] sleger : anyone remembers the name of that surgical procedure, where they take parts of your brain and inject in your arm ? @alejandromasari maybe ?
[2017-01-03 22:01:58] rapidtrades : but when I was a newb I was all into complicated shit and indicators and patterns
[2017-01-03 22:02:13] rapidtrades : sry site froze on me again
[2017-01-03 22:04:32] herpinator : im short looking for re-entry at 1018 is this dumb?
[2017-01-03 22:07:21] Milkman : herpinator: shorting near the top isnt dumb.
[2017-01-03 22:11:38] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: so please tel me how do you trade? Fib only?
[2017-01-03 22:12:43] rapidtrades : no fibs
[2017-01-03 22:12:46] BTCDJS : I like simple
[2017-01-03 22:12:51] BTCDJS : spill it
[2017-01-03 22:13:27] BTCDJS : S
[2017-01-03 22:13:27] BTCDJS : P
[2017-01-03 22:13:28] BTCDJS : I
[2017-01-03 22:13:29] BTCDJS : L
[2017-01-03 22:13:30] BTCDJS : L
[2017-01-03 22:13:31] BTCDJS : I
[2017-01-03 22:13:32] BTCDJS : T
[2017-01-03 22:14:23] BTCDJS : Please?
[2017-01-03 22:15:07] PARAFFIN : luck?
[2017-01-03 22:15:53] rapidtrades : momentum
[2017-01-03 22:16:21] Milkman : i trade based on the trollbox indicator
[2017-01-03 22:16:41] BTCDJS : That single word can probably be elaborated into an essay
[2017-01-03 22:17:00] BTCDJS : 30 pages long
[2017-01-03 22:17:36] BTCDJS : back and front
[2017-01-03 22:17:41] rapidtrades : pick any of the popular momentum trading rules and see how it performed on btc/usd
[2017-01-03 22:18:10] rapidtrades : i'd wager 95% +of them made money
[2017-01-03 22:18:48] Milkman : lol @ 0kcoin 12 hour candles. the last 3
[2017-01-03 22:18:59] Milkman : wicks, wicks everywhere
[2017-01-03 22:19:17] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: ok I'll read up
[2017-01-03 22:19:33] BTCDJS : thanks
[2017-01-03 22:21:56] MikeHunt : if you delerage while in positive does some of the profit go back to your available balance?
[2017-01-03 22:24:15] QuantFocus : i believe unrealized is even utilized for balance
[2017-01-03 22:24:16] QuantFocus : so yes
[2017-01-03 22:25:39] justinlooking : Milkman: the triple doji on 12 hour is v interesting, good spot
[2017-01-03 22:26:13] Milkman : bots trying not to tip their next move to us
[2017-01-03 22:28:06] MikeHunt : Milkman: they might tip the whole thing over in the process
[2017-01-03 22:29:31] justinlooking : i challenge anyone to name a better ide than vscode
[2017-01-03 22:30:09] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: https://xkcd.com/378/
[2017-01-03 22:30:30] justinlooking : :)
[2017-01-03 22:30:31] narnarfromnarnia : triple doji
[2017-01-03 22:30:33] narnarfromnarnia : wow
[2017-01-03 22:30:42] narnarfromnarnia : collapse coming
[2017-01-03 22:33:00] justinlooking : lol gg gl
[2017-01-03 22:33:09] justinlooking : THY WILL BE REKT
[2017-01-03 22:37:39] MikeHunt : spike up then down?
[2017-01-03 22:38:25] PARAFFIN : check that stamp col
[2017-01-03 22:38:30] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: if i deleverage a profitable trade do I get balance back in my account?
[2017-01-03 22:38:47] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2017-01-03 22:39:06] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Yes, if you close a trade at profit you get realised PNL which is immediately available
[2017-01-03 22:39:24] imapotato : MM bots don't like it when I place a bid an ask each for 1 contract with a $0.01 spread.
[2017-01-03 22:39:45] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: so if I slide the leverage back one for example from 10x to 5x, i get 5x worth of profit back in balance?
[2017-01-03 22:40:31] justinlooking : wut no MikeHunt
[2017-01-03 22:40:36] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: No, that does not change your position, it just changes how much margin is allocated to it
[2017-01-03 22:40:58] BitMEX_Wally : I though you were talking about ADL (Automatically Deleveraging) which refers to the force closing of a position at a profit
[2017-01-03 22:41:27] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: Hah, just be aware of https://blog.bitmex.com/notice-regarding-spam-orders/
[2017-01-03 22:42:31] imapotato : Ah, sorry for the micro-annoyance, but it's just 2 fun orders. I won't be flooding you with single contracts ;)
[2017-01-03 22:43:02] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: No problem, two or three small orders is fine
[2017-01-03 22:43:08] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: what about the profit made from the position? that remains untouched?
[2017-01-03 22:43:22] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Yes, i remains as unrealised PNL
[2017-01-03 22:43:34] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Changing the leverage does not change the size of the position, it changes the margin allocated to it
[2017-01-03 22:43:52] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: ahh right thanks
[2017-01-03 23:05:13] Milkman : bitfinex new high
[2017-01-03 23:07:02] hobolowbo : Milkman: huh?
[2017-01-03 23:07:08] hobolowbo : it hasn't hit 1036 again yet
[2017-01-03 23:10:37] Milkman : i was away from keyboard when it happened
[2017-01-03 23:11:00] hobolowbo : oh
[2017-01-03 23:11:03] hobolowbo : it was like a couple hours ago
[2017-01-03 23:12:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 20 @ 1027.80
[2017-01-03 23:13:15] boomerang : here we gooooooo
[2017-01-03 23:13:24] PARAFFIN : PUMP
[2017-01-03 23:13:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1000 @ 1089.69
[2017-01-03 23:14:38] boomerang : due to break ATH
[2017-01-03 23:16:16] PARAFFIN : wont stop anymore
[2017-01-03 23:16:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4 @ 1034.62 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-03 23:16:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5500 @ 1034.27
[2017-01-03 23:16:50] imapotato : new rally high on finex
[2017-01-03 23:16:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 27595 @ 1035.61
[2017-01-03 23:16:51] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2017-01-03 23:16:52] imapotato : woop woop
[2017-01-03 23:17:15] imapotato : new rally high on bitstamp also
[2017-01-03 23:17:30] dannybreal : rektt
[2017-01-03 23:17:46] dannybreal : good old days are back :)
[2017-01-03 23:18:25] imapotato : How does bitmex handle rounding/precision?
[2017-01-03 23:19:01] imapotato : >XBTUSD Trade Buy 1 1028.00 -0.0010 XBT -0.0250% -0.000000 XBT >XBTUSD Trade Sell 1 1028.01 0.0010 XBT -0.0250% -0.000000 XBT
[2017-01-03 23:19:05] imapotato : Looks like I didn't make anything :(
[2017-01-03 23:19:36] sleger : they round down 1 contract to 0
[2017-01-03 23:19:40] sleger : so you did trade nothing
[2017-01-03 23:19:43] sleger : trade bigger
[2017-01-03 23:19:45] sleger : or go home
[2017-01-03 23:20:11] imapotato : Was just messing around, figuring things out.
[2017-01-03 23:20:18] imapotato : So what happens if I put up an order for 1k contracts
[2017-01-03 23:20:25] imapotato : and it gets eaten by 1000 trades at 1 contract each?
[2017-01-03 23:20:28] sleger : then it works
[2017-01-03 23:20:33] imapotato : ^^
[2017-01-03 23:21:11] imapotato : I know Dingaling would probably get banished for spamming, but would my order get screwed?
[2017-01-03 23:21:28] BitMEX_Greg : imapotato: Rounding is done to 1 satoshi
[2017-01-03 23:22:58] imapotato : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks.
[2017-01-03 23:23:10] imapotato : That precision wasn't shown, but I switched to satoshis in settings.
[2017-01-03 23:23:25] imapotato : And I see that I made 48 satoshis in fees and 1 satoshi on the trade XD
[2017-01-03 23:23:30] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah for display purposes we round to 4dp I believe
[2017-01-03 23:23:38] imapotato : Plenty of precision, thanks.
[2017-01-03 23:23:44] imapotato : I'm seeing 6 zeros past the DP
[2017-01-03 23:23:44] BitMEX_Greg : :+1:
[2017-01-03 23:23:59] imapotato : Also, it still shows 6 DP when satohis is chosen, but those will literally always be 0s.
[2017-01-03 23:24:12] imapotato : Extremely minor, but might want to hide DP for satoshis.
[2017-01-03 23:24:59] imapotato : (in the Fee Paid column)
[2017-01-03 23:25:41] QuantFocus : exit pump
[2017-01-03 23:26:05] narnarfromnarnia : QuantFocus: i think so too
[2017-01-03 23:26:40] imapotato : I think so too, but I only have 4x leverage and I'm riding out whatever.
[2017-01-03 23:27:25] boomerang : stamp is rallying again
[2017-01-03 23:27:38] MikeHunt : not goin anywhere near this
[2017-01-03 23:28:02] Milkman : nice stamp pump
[2017-01-03 23:28:06] Milkman : finex and stamp new highs
[2017-01-03 23:28:37] deep : so what high we can expect today?
[2017-01-03 23:28:44] unicorns_rainbows : do quarterlies close at the last price or the mark price
[2017-01-03 23:29:07] PARAFFIN : fuckshitstack: nice name
[2017-01-03 23:29:21] unicorns_rainbows : lol the word filter
[2017-01-03 23:29:23] PARAFFIN : lol
[2017-01-03 23:32:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.001423
[2017-01-03 23:32:56] Milkman : xbth17 10 away from new high and new margin calls
[2017-01-03 23:33:06] BTCDJS : Adam and Eve
[2017-01-03 23:33:15] BTCDJS : one more leg
[2017-01-03 23:35:01] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: another wave?
[2017-01-03 23:35:28] BTCDJS : If we break through this resistance yes
[2017-01-03 23:35:45] dannybreal : everything closes at MARK
[2017-01-03 23:36:00] micmix : imapotato: click your name in the top-right corner and select currency XBt to show full values in satoshi
[2017-01-03 23:36:23] BTCDJS : Fined made a new high
[2017-01-03 23:36:47] imapotato : micmix: Already got it, but thanks for the tip >That precision wasn't shown, but I switched to satoshis in settings. >And I see that I made 48 satoshis in fees and 1 satoshi on the trade XD
[2017-01-03 23:36:50] BTCDJS : chine is brushing their teeth and having their coffee
[2017-01-03 23:36:51] QuantFocus : pamp it
[2017-01-03 23:37:10] BTCDJS : Finex stupid phone
[2017-01-03 23:37:16] micmix : imapotato: ah ok, missed it
[2017-01-03 23:37:20] justinlooking : is there a way to disable flashing?
[2017-01-03 23:37:48] BTCDJS : Good question
[2017-01-03 23:37:58] BTCDJS : it's annoying
[2017-01-03 23:38:54] justinlooking : i only wanna disable it to see how much less cpu rapey bitmex is
[2017-01-03 23:39:52] gustavo7 : wow
[2017-01-03 23:40:07] BTCDJS : Fomo is on
[2017-01-03 23:40:30] BTCDJS : China had their coffee
[2017-01-03 23:40:48] gustavo7 : was in at 37 but stop 31 got hit
[2017-01-03 23:42:20] PARAFFIN : waiting for euro 10000
[2017-01-03 23:42:22] PARAFFIN : 1k
[2017-01-03 23:42:38] imapotato : round two :O
[2017-01-03 23:43:22] mariomarco : imapotato: rekt round coming up next
[2017-01-03 23:43:49] PARAFFIN : mariomarco: why?
[2017-01-03 23:44:58] VenezuelanPower : good morning China !!!
[2017-01-03 23:44:59] dannybreal : all them graphs look so damn fine for the moon
[2017-01-03 23:45:14] dannybreal : houston we have liftoff
[2017-01-03 23:46:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 8 @ 1037.65
[2017-01-03 23:46:40] dannybreal : yes
[2017-01-03 23:46:47] VenezuelanPower : We need venezuelan cheap gas to go to the moon
[2017-01-03 23:46:48] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Best way to reduce the CPU usage is to minimize the chart
[2017-01-03 23:46:53] BitMEX_Sam : But I'll add an option to disable animations
[2017-01-03 23:47:14] justinlooking : thanks sam, just trying to dick with the css now see if it makes a difference
[2017-01-03 23:47:25] MikeHunt : shorts pay fee at 12:00 ?
[2017-01-03 23:47:42] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: in 4 hours
[2017-01-03 23:47:43] justinlooking : laptop gets hot whenever it's fast... chrome task manager says it's muh 4 bitmex tabs
[2017-01-03 23:47:53] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: set `td.isNew, td.isNew2 { animation: none !important; }`
[2017-01-03 23:47:57] justinlooking : i need a better potato...
[2017-01-03 23:47:57] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: negative = shorters pay ?
[2017-01-03 23:48:06] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: Correct
[2017-01-03 23:48:22] BitMEX_Sam : However animations don't play when the tab isn't active, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal with multiple tabs
[2017-01-03 23:48:30] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: ok thanks!
[2017-01-03 23:49:44] imapotato : http://i.imgur.com/MdspVyR.png
[2017-01-03 23:50:05] imapotato : MSM is just now acknowledging that Bitcoin might be a good investment.
[2017-01-03 23:50:12] imapotato : The long term rally is just getting started.
[2017-01-03 23:50:56] imapotato : justinlooking: > i need a better potato... Excuse me?
[2017-01-03 23:51:03] zach719 : to late to buy?
[2017-01-03 23:51:10] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: hi in account >open positions> realised pl: is that all the profit I made since I joined bitmex?
[2017-01-03 23:51:14] narnarfromnarnia : zach719: yes
[2017-01-03 23:51:18] MikeHunt : looks like pump n dump stage
[2017-01-03 23:51:21] zach719 : narnarfromnarnia: grrr
[2017-01-03 23:51:22] imapotato : stamp passed bitfinex
[2017-01-03 23:51:26] narnarfromnarnia : zach719: just short
[2017-01-03 23:51:28] narnarfromnarnia : the top
[2017-01-03 23:51:29] hobolowbo : why would my liquidation lights go up as my investment is gaining profit?
[2017-01-03 23:51:31] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: Yes this is life to date PNL basically
[2017-01-03 23:51:34] mariomarco : MikeHunt: +1
[2017-01-03 23:51:34] narnarfromnarnia : goes both ways :)
[2017-01-03 23:51:35] Milkman : dat new money fomo buying on stamp
[2017-01-03 23:51:41] mariomarco : Milkman: +1
[2017-01-03 23:51:59] Milkman : 25 cny from china fomoing to 7500+
[2017-01-03 23:52:02] mariomarco : Milkman: imagine when they start getting rekt :D can you spell chain reaction
[2017-01-03 23:52:09] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: You can hover over the number also to see the previous realised PNL since the last entry
[2017-01-03 23:52:42] alejandromasari : what number
[2017-01-03 23:52:46] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Greg: why would my liquidation lights go up when there's more profit?
[2017-01-03 23:52:50] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: i hover nothing happens'
[2017-01-03 23:52:56] Milkman : china was 16 cny away. one more fomo buy and they're off
[2017-01-03 23:53:04] blacktuesday : mooooooon
[2017-01-03 23:54:02] zach719 : duuuuuuuump
[2017-01-03 23:54:25] Milkman : china going the wrong way
[2017-01-03 23:54:31] QuantFocus : guys, there are no shorts to wreck
[2017-01-03 23:54:38] Milkman : new high bitfinex. nice fomo buy
[2017-01-03 23:54:44] QuantFocus : short usage is near the lowest it's ever been
[2017-01-03 23:55:06] PARAFFIN : QuantFocus: is this bad?
[2017-01-03 23:55:34] QuantFocus : no, but people that think margin calls are going to drive price are wrong
[2017-01-03 23:55:45] narnarfromnarnia : QuantFocus: it's coming down from here imo
[2017-01-03 23:55:53] Milkman : bitmex guys. why cant open interest show the # of contracts always. i hate having to hover over it to see it
[2017-01-03 23:56:01] hobolowbo : can someone help me figure out why my leverage used is going up even tho im in profit zone?
[2017-01-03 23:56:03] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: It is based on Profit priority
[2017-01-03 23:56:11] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: profit and leverage
[2017-01-03 23:56:32] hobolowbo : will i get liquidated if the price moved up from my buy price???
[2017-01-03 23:56:58] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: Your leverage should decrease as your profit increases as your unrealised PNL adds to the margin of the position
[2017-01-03 23:57:28] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Greg: thats what i thought too... but when i started my position i had 3 green lights now i have 3 greens and one light green so 4 total
[2017-01-03 23:57:36] hobolowbo : and the price only went up from where i bought it at
[2017-01-03 23:57:45] hobolowbo : and so did the mark price...
[2017-01-03 23:57:51] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: Please take a read of https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging#ADL-Priority-Deleveraging-Ranking
[2017-01-03 23:58:22] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Greg: i read this carefully before... and it makes no sense i have to say the margin calcultor
[2017-01-03 23:58:27] micmix : hobolowbo: it's not liquidation indicator, it's adl indicator
[2017-01-03 23:58:40] MikeHunt : wonder if this is timed to catch all the fomos and get them to buy last pump
[2017-01-03 23:59:54] micmix : hobolowbo: adl is like the opposite of liquidattion, your position is closed in profit because lots of other people got margin called
[2017-01-04 00:00:08] hobolowbo : oh
[2017-01-04 00:00:22] hobolowbo : micmix: should i have traded differently then?
[2017-01-04 00:00:57] imapotato : I should set up a bitmex data site and refer users with the affiliate program...
[2017-01-04 00:01:05] imapotato : Lots of neat data here to show.
[2017-01-04 00:01:05] micmix : hobolowbo: don't think so, just pay attention to your liquidation price showed under open positions
[2017-01-04 00:01:18] hobolowbo : micmix: ya i'm far from that
[2017-01-04 00:01:33] micmix : then you are fine
[2017-01-04 00:01:47] hobolowbo : micmix: so your'e saying the more ppl get liquidated for their position the less there are open positions that can support the unrealizsed theoretical profit i have right?
[2017-01-04 00:02:28] BitMEX_Sam : imapotato: That's a good idea
[2017-01-04 00:02:34] Milkman : MikeHunt: i wouldnt be surprised to see a massive amount of selling into the buying around 7800 cny until the buyers are exhausted and then the big dump
[2017-01-04 00:02:39] BitMEX_Sam : I haven't had the time to set up interesting visualizations but I could certainly show you how to get the data you need
[2017-01-04 00:02:51] micmix : hobolowbo: basically yes, and if you have high unrealized pnl and high leverage, you are higher on the list for adl
[2017-01-04 00:02:53] MikeHunt : Milkman: you think this can reach 7800 ?
[2017-01-04 00:03:06] MikeHunt : Milkman: you mean 7800 on xbc ?
[2017-01-04 00:03:08] hobolowbo : micmix: ok that makes perfect sense, thank you!
[2017-01-04 00:03:17] imapotato : BitMEX_Sam: I'm assuming the fee discount and fee commission don't count on negative fees? Would suck to get charged for referring somebody that only gets maker fees.
[2017-01-04 00:03:58] shiroe : 7500 incoming to 7600.
[2017-01-04 00:04:04] imapotato : eating $1040 on bitfinex
[2017-01-04 00:04:11] imapotato : 400 coins to chew
[2017-01-04 00:04:12] Milkman : 7800 cny on 0kcoin
[2017-01-04 00:04:23] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: For the affiliate calculations we look at gross fees paid, not net
[2017-01-04 00:05:22] dannybreal : what are the chipper doji telling to you guys?
[2017-01-04 00:09:45] cryptobull : BitMEX_Wally: any way for me too see how many *active* referreals I've got?
[2017-01-04 00:10:43] justinlooking : i am failing at chrome inspector sam
[2017-01-04 00:11:19] BitMEX_Wally : cryptobull: Not at the moment, send us an email and we can probably dig out some more information for you
[2017-01-04 00:11:31] justinlooking : can i plug `td.isNew, td.isNew2 { animation: none !important; }` in somewhere or have to greasemonkey?
[2017-01-04 00:11:43] cryptobull : BitMEX_Wally: cool, thanks.
[2017-01-04 00:13:38] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Hit the `x` in the style inspector in the Elements tab
[2017-01-04 00:13:48] BitMEX_Sam : I'm assuming Chrome
[2017-01-04 00:14:27] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, Chrome/Chromium/Opera is much better on CPU on bmex in my experience
[2017-01-04 00:14:53] boomerang : btc/yuan making moves
[2017-01-04 00:15:07] BitMEX_Sam : justinlooking: Same `+` though on FF in the Inspector tab
[2017-01-04 00:15:21] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: you need help debugging somn in chrome?
[2017-01-04 00:15:24] hobolowbo : i can help
[2017-01-04 00:15:37] BitMEX_Sam : Nope - just a user wanting to disable animations to see if it will affect CPU
[2017-01-04 00:15:45] hobolowbo : oh
[2017-01-04 00:15:47] BitMEX_Sam : I'm going to add an option for this for those of you who are sensitive to it
[2017-01-04 00:16:45] Milkman : there goes china
[2017-01-04 00:17:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 100000 @ 7834.1 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-04 00:17:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30000 @ 1039.41
[2017-01-04 00:17:30] Apocalyptic : China's pumping is strong
[2017-01-04 00:18:27] shiroe : 7777 incoming!
[2017-01-04 00:18:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1040.16
[2017-01-04 00:19:20] Alls : Rekt
[2017-01-04 00:19:22] boomerang : buckle up!
[2017-01-04 00:19:35] Alls : Bit is going strong too 1044
[2017-01-04 00:19:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 5000 @ 7852.6
[2017-01-04 00:21:02] gustavo7 : 1000 EUR on Kraken
[2017-01-04 00:22:23] PARAFFIN : 1000 EUR!!!
[2017-01-04 00:23:23] shiroe : btc-e the last one.
[2017-01-04 00:23:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 2140 @ 0.015289
[2017-01-04 00:24:42] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: what fees do you pay if you open an order as a passive order but sell with a market order?
[2017-01-04 00:25:28] narnarfromnarnia : big dump pump
[2017-01-04 00:25:34] BitMEX_Greg : hobolowbo: If you open with a maker order then you receive 0.025% on that position. If you then close it with a taker order then you pay 0.075%
[2017-01-04 00:25:53] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Greg: thx
[2017-01-04 00:31:05] NooBTCrader : So we pumpin' or what?
[2017-01-04 00:31:36] mariomarco : NooBTCrader: nah man
[2017-01-04 00:31:41] mariomarco : its canceled
[2017-01-04 00:31:53] dannybreal : :D
[2017-01-04 00:32:00] mariomarco : NooBTCrader: i just got a phone call from the china central comitee
[2017-01-04 00:32:12] Apocalyptic : NooBTCrader: pump it like it's hot
[2017-01-04 00:32:22] dannybreal : chinese don't think it's cancelled , look at the 1H graph :D :D
[2017-01-04 00:32:23] mariomarco : Apocalyptic: D oh double G
[2017-01-04 00:32:36] NooBTCrader : I already have my party hat ready
[2017-01-04 00:32:48] dannybreal : white
[2017-01-04 00:33:04] dannybreal : drop party free BTC
[2017-01-04 00:33:17] zach719 : dump?
[2017-01-04 00:33:25] narnarfromnarnia : zach719: yes
[2017-01-04 00:33:31] narnarfromnarnia : mother of dumps if this doesn't hold
[2017-01-04 00:33:41] narnarfromnarnia : it could hold though
[2017-01-04 00:34:19] mariomarco : too many green acandles for my liking
[2017-01-04 00:34:49] dannybreal : weak r shaken off by the accumulating chinese
[2017-01-04 00:35:20] mariomarco : back to 900 now :D
[2017-01-04 00:35:26] mariomarco : :P
[2017-01-04 00:35:40] dannybreal : its not even a reversal :D
[2017-01-04 00:35:45] startChat : Bitmex_Sam: triggering price has trouble updating sometimes. on refresh they show correct value
[2017-01-04 00:36:12] startChat : BitMEX_Sam:
[2017-01-04 00:36:18] BitMEX_Sam : startChat: Will take a look
[2017-01-04 00:36:29] BitMEX_Sam : By the way, I get the ping regardless of case, and you can autofill usernames by hitting <tab>
[2017-01-04 00:36:57] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: Happened yesterday also.
[2017-01-04 00:37:04] XXXX : mariomarco: denial could cost you some serious money. Dont fight he trend.
[2017-01-04 00:37:10] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: suggestion: convert your automated messages to be PGP encrypted too if the user has put a PGP key in their profile
[2017-01-04 00:37:13] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: nice tab feature
[2017-01-04 00:37:41] dannybreal : dab
[2017-01-04 00:37:46] BitMEX_Sam : hobolowbo: All the system messages that contain account information are encrypted.
[2017-01-04 00:38:23] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: perhaps pertinent account info, but security sensitive people don't like any of their activities leaked out so when you send "hey thanks for sending your first deposit" email - it doens't bode well
[2017-01-04 00:38:39] BitMEX_Sam : Oh sure, that's through an external service; that's a good point
[2017-01-04 00:39:14] BitMEX_Sam : Great suggestion @hobolowbo
[2017-01-04 00:39:22] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: anytime!
[2017-01-04 00:43:55] imapotato : rocket ship
[2017-01-04 00:50:41] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: how can enable an audio alert when an order fills
[2017-01-04 00:50:46] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: this is crucial
[2017-01-04 00:51:58] sleger : turn up the volume
[2017-01-04 00:55:14] NooBTCrader : I've never been this long. Leverage is addictive
[2017-01-04 00:56:14] j8 : yeah it'll bankrupt you like an addiction too
[2017-01-04 00:56:32] sleger : REKT: we have a target for you
[2017-01-04 00:59:40] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: by the way I meant to report this bug for a long time. The pop up alerts are empty when stop orders get triggered.
[2017-01-04 00:59:54] Rado2 : sleger: who is the target?
[2017-01-04 01:00:11] sleger : Rado2: "NooBTCrader: I've never been this long. Leverage is addictive"
[2017-01-04 01:00:23] Rado2 : lol
[2017-01-04 01:00:28] Rado2 : give it a day
[2017-01-04 01:00:56] Rado2 : sleger: by the way I got stopped out from my H17
[2017-01-04 01:01:18] sleger : Rado2: you were long ?
[2017-01-04 01:01:26] Rado2 : short
[2017-01-04 01:01:37] sleger : it went just as high before
[2017-01-04 01:01:48] hobolowbo : if u hit close on an order u opened as a post-only, would it post-only automatically on close as well?
[2017-01-04 01:01:49] micmix : Rado2: boo, stops are for pussies, use liq price like all cool kids
[2017-01-04 01:01:51] Rado2 : remember we shorted around 1000
[2017-01-04 01:02:00] Rado2 : micmix: he he
[2017-01-04 01:02:20] Rado2 : micmix: my bot has been performing much better after a few adjustments
[2017-01-04 01:02:26] Rado2 : still have a list of things to add
[2017-01-04 01:03:03] Rado2 : micmix: do you use nonce or expire for your API calls?
[2017-01-04 01:03:09] Rado2 : expires
[2017-01-04 01:04:17] micmix : Rado2: expires, I send several requests at once and nonce wouldn't work
[2017-01-04 01:04:28] Rado2 : right
[2017-01-04 01:04:32] Rado2 : I am changing to this as well
[2017-01-04 01:04:46] Rado2 : I see errors in my log right now
[2017-01-04 01:05:34] hobolowbo : BitMEX_Sam: see my question
[2017-01-04 01:05:59] Rado2 : hobolowbo: under settings you can turn on/off sound alerts
[2017-01-04 01:06:24] Rado2 : hobolowbo: https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences
[2017-01-04 01:06:43] Rado2 : under Sounds
[2017-01-04 01:09:07] j8 : you got the wrong guy
[2017-01-04 01:09:27] foobar : Do you get paid interest in short futures?
[2017-01-04 01:09:56] Rado2 : j8: I did?
[2017-01-04 01:10:16] Rado2 : I see
[2017-01-04 01:10:16] sleger : i was wondering the same
[2017-01-04 01:10:17] Rado2 : :-)
[2017-01-04 01:10:52] Rado2 : alejandromasari: under settings you can turn on/off sound alerts hobolowbo: https://www.bitmex.com/app/preferences under Sounds
[2017-01-04 01:11:29] Alls : Yo any site admin/mod around
[2017-01-04 01:11:49] Rado2 : Alls: sleger is the master
[2017-01-04 01:11:52] Alls : My built in chart suddenly turn all green =/ can't see anything from it
[2017-01-04 01:12:05] Rado2 : refresh?
[2017-01-04 01:12:07] Alls : I am on mobile using chrome browser
[2017-01-04 01:12:12] Alls : Doesn't work
[2017-01-04 01:13:32] alejandromasari : I think we see 1500 this year and it becomes the new floor
[2017-01-04 01:13:52] imapotato : $10k new floor by June
[2017-01-04 01:14:14] mariomarco : imapotato: :P
[2017-01-04 01:14:20] mariomarco : 100$
[2017-01-04 01:14:53] dannybreal : limit close will buy @ mar price or orderbook
[2017-01-04 01:22:06] dannybreal : mark price or last price
[2017-01-04 01:26:11] imapotato : Continuing to push up the rally high across the board :D
[2017-01-04 01:26:58] zach719 : no dump
[2017-01-04 01:27:03] zach719 : and i shorted :(
[2017-01-04 01:27:10] imapotato : no brakes
[2017-01-04 01:27:17] imapotato : never short bitcoin
[2017-01-04 01:27:32] imapotato : finex pushing against 1050!
[2017-01-04 01:27:46] imapotato : 544 coins to eat for 1050
[2017-01-04 01:28:09] unicorns_rainbows : lol short
[2017-01-04 01:29:07] rms : What happens to the futures markets though if everyone figures out you shkuld
[2017-01-04 01:29:13] l3f : guys surely this is top[
[2017-01-04 01:29:24] rms : never short bitcoin?
[2017-01-04 01:29:27] Rado2 : l3f: how so?
[2017-01-04 01:29:37] l3f : Rado2: it's a joke
[2017-01-04 01:29:47] l3f : I've been repeating that line every 'time we make a new high
[2017-01-04 01:29:50] unicorns_rainbows : i'm just wondering, why my username has changed
[2017-01-04 01:29:56] micmix : wait for this guys to sell his stash: https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonalFinanceCanada/comments/5lkgbb/if_i_sell_a_large_amount_of_bitcoin_how_am_i_taxed/
[2017-01-04 01:30:11] imapotato : unicorns_rainbows: previous username? was probably offensive
[2017-01-04 01:30:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 56887 @ 1116.25 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-04 01:30:20] JuriFX : thanks bulls, I like being part of your team ;)
[2017-01-04 01:30:27] unicorns_rainbows : oh gotcha, well it was good while it lasted
[2017-01-04 01:30:34] imapotato : >56887 ouch
[2017-01-04 01:32:33] imapotato : The real fireworks come out once support is established at the previous ATH.
[2017-01-04 01:34:37] MikeHunt : looks like its gone too far up to correct now
[2017-01-04 01:34:42] MikeHunt : unless you mean back to 900
[2017-01-04 01:35:37] mariomarco : MikeHunt: 880
[2017-01-04 01:35:39] mariomarco : :D
[2017-01-04 01:36:41] foobar : when you guys are using bots, are you doing arbitrage, speculating, or both?
[2017-01-04 01:37:00] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i mean 900 mean, it will go lower than 880 as corrects imo
[2017-01-04 01:37:17] mariomarco : yes :D
[2017-01-04 01:37:28] foobar : and is it best to go with the python skeleton code on github or is there something else people are using?
[2017-01-04 01:40:41] arbitrage001 : good morning, fellow trolls
[2017-01-04 01:40:53] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing
[2017-01-04 01:41:05] arbitrage001 : getting rich again?
[2017-01-04 01:42:35] alejandromasari : hey what does cross mean?]
[2017-01-04 01:43:17] NooBTCrader : X
[2017-01-04 01:43:38] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: what does cross mean in the leverage bar?
[2017-01-04 01:43:42] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross
[2017-01-04 01:44:13] BitMEX_Sam : alejandromasari: It means cross margin, as in using your entire account balance to back the position
[2017-01-04 01:45:59] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: my unrealized p&l is -63%? but my entry is 1046
[2017-01-04 01:47:12] l3f : Who didn't buy and hold?
[2017-01-04 01:47:19] l3f : Look at prices now