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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-01-03 17:31:46] BTCDJS : aethlios: ETH resistance at 0.01 after that it could retrace to 0.022 50% [2017-01-03 17:31:49] elmorte : What is the XBTCNY index composed of again? @BitMEX_Sam [2017-01-03 17:31:57] elmorte : Can't find it in the docs [2017-01-03 17:33:16] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: It should be equal weighted Huobi, OKC and BTCC CNY prices [2017-01-03 17:33:39] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: is fee for opening/closing a 50x short 0.05% * 50 ? [2017-01-03 17:33:49] elmorte : Cheers, I thought as much but can't find it documented @BitMEX_Greg [2017-01-03 17:34:17] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: The fee is 0.075% for taker, -0.025% for maker. And it is based on the total position size. [2017-01-03 17:34:27] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: I will add on the index page. [2017-01-03 17:34:37] elmorte : :thumbsup: [2017-01-03 17:36:38] aethlios : BTCDJS: 0.0135-0.0145 tech resistance. maybe some whales sold btc and will pump eth while btc corrects, [2017-01-03 17:37:27] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: so fees arent ever multiplied on there own? [2017-01-03 17:37:49] sleger : "based on the total position size." [2017-01-03 17:38:02] MikeHunt : sleger: i'd rather ask a dumb question than make a dumb trade [2017-01-03 17:38:13] sleger : your question is not clear [2017-01-03 17:38:31] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: So lets say you open a position of 10,000 contracts. The fee is based on 10,000 contracts. This is irrespective of leverage [2017-01-03 17:38:43] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: ahh ok thanks [2017-01-03 17:39:12] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: So you want to multiply the contract size by the executed price to get the total bitcoin value, then multiply by the fee to get a bitcoin denominated fee [2017-01-03 17:39:27] BitMEX_Greg : np :) [2017-01-03 17:39:31] rapidtrades : mark my words, this is some bitfinex manipulated garbage [2017-01-03 17:39:45] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: thanks for confirmation [2017-01-03 17:39:48] moo : what exactly [2017-01-03 17:39:56] rapidtrades : even ZEC didn't rise or fall this consistently, this is such a scam [2017-01-03 17:39:58] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i thought huobi/woodchipper was doing it? [2017-01-03 17:40:01] rapidtrades : obv manipulation [2017-01-03 17:40:17] rapidtrades : nthing moves like this, this is pure BS [2017-01-03 17:40:18] sleger : the rise doesnt come from finex [2017-01-03 17:40:28] rapidtrades : GO CODE SMTH [2017-01-03 17:40:40] sleger : sudo delete rapidtrades [2017-01-03 17:41:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 10 @ 0.009270 [2017-01-03 17:41:07] rapidtrades : it's either okc or bitfinex or both of them together [2017-01-03 17:41:23] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: are you expecting an upsurge or collapse to mean? [2017-01-03 17:41:30] rapidtrades : collapse [2017-01-03 17:42:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i think they will caress to 7200 ish and go up again [2017-01-03 17:42:18] moo : when china will decide to short to multiply their coins it could snowball hard... [2017-01-03 17:42:25] MikeHunt : or they will expect us to the buy the dip as they crash it [2017-01-03 17:43:03] rapidtrades : we have been buying the dip ho [2017-01-03 17:43:04] MikeHunt : that's assuming they can keep usd exchanges <= $1000 [2017-01-03 17:43:21] MikeHunt : >= $1000 * [2017-01-03 17:43:30] MikeHunt : greater than or equal to $1000 [2017-01-03 17:43:37] MikeHunt : didnt like greater symbol hmm [2017-01-03 17:43:55] rapidtrades : the lack of premium on 3m futures is another red flag [2017-01-03 17:44:23] rapidtrades : this low premium hasn't happened during any of the previous rallies since last august [2017-01-03 17:44:27] sleger : recently low premium = pump incoming [2017-01-03 17:44:40] rapidtrades : but premium is high on weekly [2017-01-03 17:44:43] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: make it dump already [2017-01-03 17:44:52] rapidtrades : $4 and $7 biweekly [2017-01-03 17:44:58] sleger : it's 2-3$ on weekly [2017-01-03 17:45:00] sleger : thats nothing [2017-01-03 17:45:17] rapidtrades : its better then negative, which was the case during most of the rally [2017-01-03 17:45:30] sleger : what ? [2017-01-03 17:45:37] rapidtrades : why are the specs not buying this move? cos its coming from some manipulated exchange [2017-01-03 17:45:40] sleger : premium on weekly 0kc was 15$ 24hrs ago [2017-01-03 17:45:53] rapidtrades : sleger: weekly premium was negative before that tho [2017-01-03 17:46:02] sleger : and then price pumped [2017-01-03 17:46:06] sleger : thats what im saying [2017-01-03 17:46:13] rapidtrades : ok [2017-01-03 17:46:23] rapidtrades : ur right this time its different [2017-01-03 17:46:41] rapidtrades : guess all those newbs are right and we'll hit 5-10k soon [2017-01-03 17:46:52] MikeHunt : they could all dump before it hits the line thou so we think its just anotehr dip [2017-01-03 17:47:01] MikeHunt : wen it isnt [2017-01-03 17:47:40] rapidtrades : there are so many things setting off red flag [2017-01-03 17:47:50] rapidtrades : the size of the move, the duration, the low premiums [2017-01-03 17:47:53] rapidtrades : it stinks [2017-01-03 17:48:05] laisee : any change in bitcoin that supports increased valuation? [2017-01-03 17:48:18] sleger : rapidtrades: you were saying the same at 800 [2017-01-03 17:48:25] rapidtrades : yes i was [2017-01-03 17:48:31] zach719 : sleger: true [2017-01-03 17:48:31] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: it looks timed so that the conclusion is roughly same time china starts business hours [2017-01-03 17:49:46] MikeHunt : could go either way [2017-01-03 17:50:08] sleger : either way ? [2017-01-03 17:50:12] sleger : oh great [2017-01-03 17:50:15] sleger : thanks for insight [2017-01-03 17:50:21] MikeHunt : its up to the whale gods [2017-01-03 17:50:34] MikeHunt : will they hold to 7200 or dump [2017-01-03 17:50:41] rapidtrades : price action says we'll pump again [2017-01-03 17:50:54] rapidtrades : has the same pattern before every pump [2017-01-03 17:51:03] MikeHunt : sleger: when i showed you that yuan/btc chart you said btc was doomed [2017-01-03 17:51:07] MikeHunt : ie: overbought? [2017-01-03 17:51:23] rapidtrades : it's dumb but we'll prolly go up again [2017-01-03 17:51:37] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i hope we do, another bully rally would be $.$ [2017-01-03 17:51:41] sleger : no its because you show 2 lines that diverge and your conclusion is that the bottom one has to reached the higher one, although the graph could mean the opposite [2017-01-03 17:52:31] MikeHunt : sleger: im not saying it has to, but it may be an indicator of the yuans real/declining value [2017-01-03 17:52:44] rapidtrades : yeah i haven't found divergence particularly useful [2017-01-03 17:52:44] sleger : yes bitcoin controls the yuan price [2017-01-03 17:52:47] sleger : that's very smart [2017-01-03 17:52:48] MikeHunt : with the rate being set by PBOC its hard to tell [2017-01-03 17:52:57] sleger : ^newbs [2017-01-03 17:53:01] MikeHunt : in venuezuela its easier due to big black cash market [2017-01-03 17:53:09] sleger : think before you type [2017-01-03 17:53:38] MikeHunt : sleger: im not saying bitcoin controls it, it just may be an indicator [2017-01-03 17:53:42] sleger : rapidtrades: china also might want to stop that eth rally [2017-01-03 17:54:01] rapidtrades : why would china care about ETH [2017-01-03 17:54:27] sleger : they dont want it to take money from btc [2017-01-03 17:54:37] sleger : they care a lot [2017-01-03 17:54:43] sleger : miners [2017-01-03 17:54:46] rapidtrades : that's a weird logic [2017-01-03 17:54:49] MikeHunt : sleger: XMR as well? [2017-01-03 17:55:00] sleger : MikeHunt: ask your friend alejandro i dont know [2017-01-03 17:55:01] moo : if ETH will dominate their mining ROI will be hit hard [2017-01-03 17:55:08] moo : huge % loss [2017-01-03 17:55:20] sleger : eth wont have mining in 1 year [2017-01-03 17:55:34] moo : exact;y [2017-01-03 17:55:38] rapidtrades : the problem with that theory is it requires all of them to collude [2017-01-03 17:55:47] moo : $ invested in mining = useless [2017-01-03 17:55:51] moo : they dont want that [2017-01-03 17:56:02] rapidtrades : that won't happen cos its much more profitable to go rouge [2017-01-03 17:56:04] sleger : rapidtrades: there are only few large miners, and they talk to each other [2017-01-03 17:56:30] rapidtrades : sleger: ok but let's say 3 out of 4 decide to dump on ETH, the one that doesn't ends up with $$$$ [2017-01-03 17:56:31] sleger : why do you think they are pumping etc ? [2017-01-03 17:56:37] moo : china has huge mining farms... they want PoW to dominate marketcaps forever [2017-01-03 17:56:51] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah that's a good point, never thought about that [2017-01-03 17:56:58] rapidtrades : ETC was a weird selection [2017-01-03 17:57:06] sleger : miners forced it [2017-01-03 17:57:13] sleger : they forced huobi, polo [2017-01-03 17:57:26] rapidtrades : u mean btcc? [2017-01-03 17:57:39] rapidtrades : does huobi already have etc? [2017-01-03 17:57:40] sleger : i think huobi announced they would integrate etc no ? [2017-01-03 17:57:46] sleger : they said they will [2017-01-03 17:57:50] rapidtrades : no that was btcc? [2017-01-03 17:58:18] rapidtrades : former btc china [2017-01-03 18:00:25] tommygunn : poor etc boobss [2017-01-03 18:01:02] tommygunn : west wats tech and always will go tech, vc's and silicon valley [2017-01-03 18:01:07] tommygunn : wants [2017-01-03 18:01:24] tommygunn : etc is a buck 50 [2017-01-03 18:01:32] sleger : rapidtrades: you're right, btcc [2017-01-03 18:06:35] Milkman : ETC dump [2017-01-03 18:06:42] elmorte : hmm, China spot hasn't had this big of a premium since July [2017-01-03 18:08:05] Milkman : 0kcoin market buy up to 7392 cny just now [2017-01-03 18:08:47] sleger : what did i say... [2017-01-03 18:09:34] tommygunn : china trying [2017-01-03 18:11:22] sludge : Why is the funding rate so much lower this settlement time? [2017-01-03 18:12:01] sleger : next one probably even negative [2017-01-03 18:13:49] sludge : What market dynamics control the rate? [2017-01-03 18:14:40] Milkman : so if i market buy / sell into a hidden wall i get the maker fee? [2017-01-03 18:15:13] sleger : yes [2017-01-03 18:17:16] BitMEX_Greg : sludge: Please take a read of the following documentation which helps explain the funding dynamics: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding [2017-01-03 18:33:47] justinlooking : Bless the Rekt,, O my soul [2017-01-03 18:37:49] Milkman : cryptowatch charts stopped updating? [2017-01-03 18:45:55] rapidtrades : sleger: his charts stopped updating [2017-01-03 18:46:56] emperortrump : Deposits here are still instant? My Btc deposit is 'pending' for several minutes now [2017-01-03 18:46:56] elmorte : Error: Loading chunk 8 failed. [2017-01-03 18:47:41] rapidtrades : emperortrump: 1 confirmation [2017-01-03 18:48:13] emperortrump : rapidtrades: Wow, was 0 last time I was here. That sucks [2017-01-03 18:48:22] elmorte : when was that? [2017-01-03 18:48:34] emperortrump : elmorte: like 2 weeks maybe? [2017-01-03 18:48:54] elmorte : right... [2017-01-03 18:48:55] Apocalyptic : doubtful [2017-01-03 18:49:06] justinlooking : zomg my eth are almost worth what i paid for them! [2017-01-03 18:49:07] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: Please refresh, we are working on a fix [2017-01-03 18:49:16] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: I did, thanks [2017-01-03 18:50:40] elmorte : emperortrump: you just got lucky and confirmed quickly that time. It's been 1 conf since I can remember [2017-01-03 18:55:10] BTCDJS : Its always been 1 confirmation [2017-01-03 18:55:24] BTCDJS : since the dawn of bitmex [2017-01-03 18:55:58] BTCDJS : Since the REKTage began [2017-01-03 18:58:03] BitMEX_Greg : emperortrump: It has always been 1 confirmation. Please ensure the fee attached to the transfer is sufficient, otherwise it may not get confirmed on the blockchain for some time [2017-01-03 18:58:33] BitMEX_Greg : You can use this guide as an estimate: https://bitcoinfees.github.io/ [2017-01-03 18:58:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 120 @ 0.015706 [2017-01-03 19:00:41] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: actually the REKT bot came in after [2017-01-03 19:00:52] rapidtrades : circa nov/dec 2016 [2017-01-03 19:02:44] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: Wasn't talking about the bot [2017-01-03 19:02:57] BTCDJS : was talking about the gamblers [2017-01-03 19:03:09] rapidtrades : k [2017-01-03 19:03:24] rapidtrades : ur not a fan of history faggot [2017-01-03 19:05:21] sleger : rapidtrades: rekt is much older than that [2017-01-03 19:05:25] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I never traded here from the beginning anyway. Was just being..... whatever. [2017-01-03 19:07:43] rapidtrades : sleger: not it is not [2017-01-03 19:07:49] rapidtrades : it was made shortly after i came here [2017-01-03 19:08:05] Dtrade16 : What's up with eth guys [2017-01-03 19:08:14] tommygunn : out of eth trade, was a good pop [2017-01-03 19:08:17] Dtrade16 : No body likes to trade it here? [2017-01-03 19:08:21] Dtrade16 : Me too [2017-01-03 19:08:43] elmorte : rapidtrades: you messed up the year [2017-01-03 19:08:55] tommygunn : polo has the volume [2017-01-03 19:09:12] tommygunn : just have to fight the bots and walls [2017-01-03 19:09:21] gustavo7 : whoops [2017-01-03 19:09:31] rapidtrades : elmorte: ah right it was 2015 [2017-01-03 19:10:45] sleger : see [2017-01-03 19:11:00] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: At least get the year right cocksucker [2017-01-03 19:11:24] BTCDJS : Ha Cocksucker isnt sensored! [2017-01-03 19:11:26] Dtrade16 : the eth contracts are worth 1 usd or more? [2017-01-03 19:11:34] BTCDJS : Cocksucker [2017-01-03 19:11:42] BTCDJS : Cock [2017-01-03 19:11:47] BTCDJS : sucker [2017-01-03 19:12:07] BTCDJS : suck a cock [2017-01-03 19:12:09] Dtrade16 : nvm [2017-01-03 19:12:10] rapidtrades : pussy [2017-01-03 19:12:15] BitMEX_Sam : You guys are so charming [2017-01-03 19:12:23] sleger : coinbase pumping eth (in their blog) [2017-01-03 19:12:29] rapidtrades : nice [2017-01-03 19:12:45] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: don't you dare sensor richardlicker. You took C U N T from me [2017-01-03 19:13:05] BTCDJS : cunt [2017-01-03 19:13:11] BTCDJS : i mean come on [2017-01-03 19:13:38] sleger : from coinbase blog : "Rapid change seems to be the only certainty." rapid change, 2 words I never thought I'd see together [2017-01-03 19:13:42] BTCDJS : OH COME ON [2017-01-03 19:13:57] BTCDJS : suck a cock [2017-01-03 19:14:22] rapidtrades : cocksucker [2017-01-03 19:14:27] rapidtrades : it's still there [2017-01-03 19:14:50] BTCDJS : why does my previous text say richardlicker [2017-01-03 19:15:02] rapidtrades : cocklicker [2017-01-03 19:15:08] rapidtrades : idk ur stupid? [2017-01-03 19:15:17] sleger : sam changed it [2017-01-03 19:15:26] rapidtrades : u have a crush on a richard? [2017-01-03 19:15:27] sleger : he is manipulating the trollbox [2017-01-03 19:16:55] BTCDJS : Read an article that says people who swear are usually honest people [2017-01-03 19:17:15] rapidtrades : sounds legit [2017-01-03 19:17:40] BTCDJS : Yeah it said you gotta watch out for people who never swear [2017-01-03 19:18:01] BitMEX_Greg : like kids? [2017-01-03 19:18:11] sleger : and admins [2017-01-03 19:18:11] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: kids swear [2017-01-03 19:18:29] BTCDJS : especially admins [2017-01-03 19:19:31] BitMEX_Greg : I think the article in question doesn't apply to a text-based conversation, since I imagine the theory is it is more involuntary when you swear [2017-01-03 19:19:47] BTCDJS : you're smart [2017-01-03 19:21:19] sleger : i'm sure rapid has a keyboard shortcut for "xxxx-ing your mum" [2017-01-03 19:21:25] sleger : so it would also apply to him [2017-01-03 19:21:31] sleger : since he just has to hit the key [2017-01-03 19:21:50] BitMEX_Greg : Still gotta think about hitting that key [2017-01-03 19:25:53] yoloshi : sleger r u cutting much eth? [2017-01-03 19:26:20] Headroom : I have a cheat code for your paddle to win money [2017-01-03 19:26:46] sleger : i'm selling eth at 200-300$ [2017-01-03 19:27:33] Headroom : price doesn't move so much today, it's the grandmother's market [2017-01-03 19:27:42] justinlooking : booyah [2017-01-03 19:31:04] tommygunn : back in eth, train wont stop [2017-01-03 19:31:32] tommygunn : looking at 1. [2017-01-03 19:32:45] tommygunn : expect some @REKT if you short [2017-01-03 19:33:18] aethlios : we called the eth bull rally here first. [2017-01-03 19:33:36] tommygunn : you are a champ [2017-01-03 19:33:39] tommygunn : !!! [2017-01-03 19:34:04] tommygunn : I would make more trying not to scalp [2017-01-03 19:35:27] tommygunn : that chart was dead on [2017-01-03 19:35:56] tommygunn : going out for coffe while we wait for china [2017-01-03 19:38:27] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: so all of the prohibited words are banned? [2017-01-03 19:38:28] BTCDJS : Anyone trading DASH on polo? chart looks bullish [2017-01-03 19:38:39] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: like censored banned [2017-01-03 19:38:50] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: We try keep the chatbox clean [2017-01-03 19:39:17] BitMEX_Sam : We usually fail [2017-01-03 19:39:18] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: is there a story behind why okayc is called woodchipper? [2017-01-03 19:39:38] BitMEX_Sam : Goes back to that old woodchipper meme [2017-01-03 19:39:49] BitMEX_Greg : Yeah, we didn't come up with that [2017-01-03 19:40:02] BitMEX_Sam : It's something I put in back in alpha for fun and just never took it out [2017-01-03 19:40:17] BitMEX_Sam : Along with "gently caress", which was one of my favorite things about the old SomethingAwful forums [2017-01-03 19:41:09] MikeHunt : which words does gently caress replace or that seperate? [2017-01-03 19:41:32] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: its F U C K [2017-01-03 19:42:22] Milkman : damn btc. just dump already you cunt [2017-01-03 19:42:25] BTCDJS : And pretty soon you won't be able to say cocksucker either [2017-01-03 19:42:25] BitMEX_Sam : We don't document it anywhere, that's part of the fun [2017-01-03 19:42:38] Milkman : cunt cunt cunt [2017-01-03 19:42:54] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: fuck? [2017-01-03 19:42:58] MikeHunt : cool [2017-01-03 19:42:58] BTCDJS : Milkman: yeah that was my favourite word too [2017-01-03 19:43:07] Milkman : fuck cunt [2017-01-03 19:43:17] Milkman : okcoin fuck cunt [2017-01-03 19:43:19] Milkman : only 3 i know [2017-01-03 19:43:49] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: could reserve that for the next exchange that fails [2017-01-03 19:51:34] XBT_Saver : BitMEX_Sam: there seems to be a few seconds of lag on the orders. [2017-01-03 19:52:03] BitMEX_Sam : XBT_Saver: Looking into it [2017-01-03 19:52:34] XBT_Saver : thank you [2017-01-03 19:58:43] justinlooking : Milkman: u must know ceo [2017-01-03 19:58:58] sleger : site is slow [2017-01-03 19:59:04] sleger : >800 users [2017-01-03 19:59:20] Milkman : ATH users [2017-01-03 19:59:35] Milkman : everyone and their mom is longing btc on bitmex [2017-01-03 20:00:16] Milkman : bitmex needs some charts like okcoin does. contracts charts. longs / shorts charts so we know how close someone is to getting rekt [2017-01-03 20:00:58] Milkman : need a mega dump to clear out some of these users too. make the site faster [2017-01-03 20:02:32] justinlooking : wasn't users over 1k for zec peak ? [2017-01-03 20:03:08] Milkman : ah most likely [2017-01-03 20:03:12] Milkman : need a users chart too [2017-01-03 20:05:52] Milkman : i dont see how this can dump when 0kcoin keeps throwing up tons of buy walls whenever and where ever [2017-01-03 20:06:13] Milkman : unless mr. buywall guy dumps and takes down buy walls [2017-01-03 20:11:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 6 @ 0.015481 [2017-01-03 20:13:50] Milkman : xmr dump [2017-01-03 20:13:59] rms : so this is a real ETH rally if BTC pumps and ETH keeps pumping [2017-01-03 20:14:23] rms : but i would kind of expect ETH goes back to .0085 once bitcoin has it's next 20-30 leg up [2017-01-03 20:14:24] Milkman : i dunno. just bagholders averaging down [2017-01-03 20:16:41] nOgAnOo : I love you all. [2017-01-03 20:22:37] BTCDJS : nOgAnOo: But? [2017-01-03 20:22:57] nOgAnOo : But that you are special in my heart. [2017-01-03 20:23:45] Milkman : man [2017-01-03 20:23:49] Milkman : should i get fucked up tongiht [2017-01-03 20:24:03] Milkman : i have a feeling btc gonna dump big so i should be fucked up for it [2017-01-03 20:24:46] Milkman : gently caressed on urban dictionary "Typically used by Forum Goons on SomethingAwful. Replaces any usage of the word." [2017-01-03 20:25:53] bitcoinbilli : hello [2017-01-03 20:26:47] PARAFFIN : btc dump ton ight? [2017-01-03 20:26:57] lugo : yes [2017-01-03 20:27:07] PARAFFIN : looks like dump constilation [2017-01-03 20:27:44] lugo : yes really dumpy looking [2017-01-03 20:28:13] BTCDJS : Milkman:https://twitter.com/BTCDJS/status/816378932689707009 [2017-01-03 20:28:38] BTCDJS : imagine the disappointment and dispair [2017-01-03 20:30:02] PARAFFIN : can i make stoploss here? how? [2017-01-03 20:30:55] BitMEX_Greg : PARAFFIN: Please take a read of: https://www.bitmex.com/app/orderTypeFAQ [2017-01-03 20:30:56] Milkman : PARAFFIN: it's called margin called [2017-01-03 20:31:03] BTCDJS : PARAFFIN: choose Stop market. And pick price to put it [2017-01-03 20:31:30] BitMEX_Greg : PARAFFIN: You can select the type of Stop Order by clicking on the 3 vertical dots next to "market" and "limit" in the Place Order section [2017-01-03 20:31:39] MikeHunt : current trajectory suggests a hard land [2017-01-03 20:31:45] MikeHunt : china needs more throttle and pull up a bit [2017-01-03 20:31:50] alejandromasari : who's long who's short? [2017-01-03 20:31:54] MikeHunt : short [2017-01-03 20:31:58] alejandromasari : now shorts pay funding [2017-01-03 20:31:59] BTCDJS : out [2017-01-03 20:32:05] Milkman : i shorted my mom. she is worth at least 2 btc [2017-01-03 20:32:26] BTCDJS : cocksucker [2017-01-03 20:32:27] PARAFFIN : thanks [2017-01-03 20:32:46] BTCDJS : you're welcome [2017-01-03 20:33:11] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: at 12:00 utc? [2017-01-03 20:33:36] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: in 7.45 hours [2017-01-03 20:33:43] rapidtrades : ZEROHEDGE SAYS DON'T BUY BITCOIN [2017-01-03 20:34:11] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: oh yeh [2017-01-03 20:34:19] BitMEX_Greg : They must want to buy some Bitcoin cheap again [2017-01-03 20:34:29] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: if you had a short with high leverage making $$$, would you bail b4 funding or just take the nip? [2017-01-03 20:34:45] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: thanks zerohedge! [2017-01-03 20:34:54] Milkman : always take the nip [2017-01-03 20:35:05] Milkman : because once funding happens the price readjusts [2017-01-03 20:35:05] MikeHunt : Milkman: nips are tight ;) [2017-01-03 20:35:15] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-03/few-chinese-sell-yuan-first-day-new-year-after-barrage-new-capital-controls [2017-01-03 20:35:22] Milkman : so you wont have time to get back in a position that was better than the one you were in [2017-01-03 20:36:03] MikeHunt : so supposing i shorted near top, thats not gonna get better than that? [2017-01-03 20:36:17] Milkman : right [2017-01-03 20:36:32] Milkman : so rapidtrades link says bitcoin is going to pump more due to china fucking over its citizens [2017-01-03 20:36:51] Milkman : fuck [2017-01-03 20:36:54] Milkman : fucking [2017-01-03 20:36:57] Milkman : nice [2017-01-03 20:37:04] rapidtrades : It does not, u retard [2017-01-03 20:37:15] Milkman : fuck you you fucking cunt [2017-01-03 20:37:23] rapidtrades : ur IQ is even lower then the chat average, which is quite a feat [2017-01-03 20:37:52] Milkman : suck on a donkeys mandingo cock [2017-01-03 20:38:04] BitMEX_Sam : Hey, at least attempt to keep it clean [2017-01-03 20:38:08] Milkman : ok [2017-01-03 20:38:13] BitMEX_Sam : I don't ban often but I will if you guys keep it up [2017-01-03 20:38:26] Milkman : didnt know there was a banhammer in here [2017-01-03 20:38:36] Milkman : is it IP ban or username ban [2017-01-03 20:38:50] BitMEX_Greg : We can do both [2017-01-03 20:39:12] Milkman : if i can get rapidtrades banned that'll be quite the feat [2017-01-03 20:39:51] Milkman : looks like that capital control in china is pumping the btc price again [2017-01-03 20:40:00] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/yuan-dumps-bitcoin-jumps-china-researchers-suggest-one-devaluation-capital-controls [2017-01-03 20:40:17] rapidtrades : and this [2017-01-03 20:40:22] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/bitcoin-surges-above-1000-china-unveils-new-capital-controls [2017-01-03 20:40:43] Milkman : i hear zerohedge is fear mongering [2017-01-03 20:41:36] rapidtrades : that's funny cos they one link i saw posted today on r/bitcoin was about cash ban in greece [2017-01-03 20:41:56] rapidtrades : guess we ignore ZH when it doesn't suit the narrative [2017-01-03 20:42:49] alejandromasari : Milkman: it is [2017-01-03 20:42:58] alejandromasari : Milkman: not worth reading [2017-01-03 20:43:28] QuantFocus : did someone say mandingo? [2017-01-03 20:43:46] Milkman : yeah QuantFocus we know ;) [2017-01-03 20:50:54] Milkman : btc trying to break up [2017-01-03 20:52:12] Headroom : Damn! I was not there when drama happened [2017-01-03 20:52:45] Headroom : let's move so [2017-01-03 20:53:01] Milkman : what does headroom mean [2017-01-03 20:53:06] Milkman : i could always use more headroom on airplanes [2017-01-03 20:53:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: does greece even hve any money to put in bitcoin though? [2017-01-03 20:54:40] sleger : MikeHunt: no but they use basic trades, for instance they have access to www.tradefetacheeseforbitcoin.com [2017-01-03 20:55:59] BitMEX_Sam : Hey, feta's expensive [2017-01-03 20:58:00] MikeHunt : sleger: you mean the 20% discount some restaurants give if you pay with bitcoin? [2017-01-03 20:58:15] MikeHunt : feta restaurants* [2017-01-03 20:58:32] Milkman : man wtf. forgot i had a buy order open on xmr [2017-01-03 20:58:48] Milkman : now i'm bagholding this shit hoping for a pump [2017-01-03 20:59:21] QuantFocus : lol [2017-01-03 20:59:24] MikeHunt : Milkman: u didnt short it? [2017-01-03 20:59:37] Milkman : hoping to buy low and sell on a pump [2017-01-03 20:59:44] Milkman : well i just did the buy low part [2017-01-03 20:59:52] MikeHunt : Milkman: what makes you think XMR can survive a bitcoin crash? pretty much all altcoins dont [2017-01-03 21:00:05] QuantFocus : what are you talking about? [2017-01-03 21:00:07] Milkman : alts pump on btc crash [2017-01-03 21:00:08] QuantFocus : alts thrive in btc crash [2017-01-03 21:00:42] sleger : he's been wrong on 95% of stuff he said here [2017-01-03 21:00:45] sleger : no surprise... [2017-01-03 21:00:50] sleger : also he is alejandro friend so.... [2017-01-03 21:08:33] wurstgelee : if btc crashes, all alts die [2017-01-03 21:08:40] wurstgelee : that's common knowledge [2017-01-03 21:09:09] wurstgelee : every successful trader who is into btc for 0 to 2 months knows that [2017-01-03 21:09:21] QuantFocus : o ya [2017-01-03 21:09:22] QuantFocus : my bad [2017-01-03 21:09:23] Milkman : well is btc crashes to double digits then probably [2017-01-03 21:09:30] wurstgelee : there are none >2 months who know that [2017-01-03 21:09:56] wurstgelee : Milkman: lol no :) [2017-01-03 21:10:20] Milkman : bitfinex $5 away from new high [2017-01-03 21:10:38] wurstgelee : my bad, i forgot the [bullshit/] tag [2017-01-03 21:10:47] Milkman : i think i'm going to install linux [2017-01-03 21:10:55] Milkman : fuck this windows bs [2017-01-03 21:11:03] QuantFocus : fakeout or breakout [2017-01-03 21:11:05] PARAFFIN : wurstgelee: lecker [2017-01-03 21:11:09] MikeHunt : i should point out it depends what altcoins your shorting [2017-01-03 21:11:14] wurstgelee : PARAFFIN: YES! [2017-01-03 21:11:45] wurstgelee : also no cares for any altcoins for many weeks now [2017-01-03 21:11:50] wurstgelee : it's king BTC time atm [2017-01-03 21:11:52] wurstgelee : obviously [2017-01-03 21:15:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 110 @ 0.009370 [2017-01-03 21:16:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 10 @ 0.015097 [2017-01-03 21:16:34] Milkman : ROFL xmr [2017-01-03 21:16:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 50 @ 0.014930 [2017-01-03 21:16:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 37 @ 0.015045 [2017-01-03 21:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 400 @ 0.014716 [2017-01-03 21:16:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 200 @ 0.014537 [2017-01-03 21:17:59] Milkman : either n00bs in xmr or just a mean whale [2017-01-03 21:18:18] PARAFFIN : maybe btc will pump? [2017-01-03 21:18:31] Milkman : looks like it will [2017-01-03 21:18:47] MikeHunt : with 1/2 correction? not far? [2017-01-03 21:19:19] Milkman : etc dumping now [2017-01-03 21:19:39] rms : bitfinex FOMO finally [2017-01-03 21:19:55] PARAFFIN : whats FOMO?? [2017-01-03 21:20:35] Milkman : Former Mormon [2017-01-03 21:20:51] QuantFocus : at least they're on the road to recovery [2017-01-03 21:20:54] QuantFocus : one step at a time [2017-01-03 21:22:18] MikeHunt : good place to crash it [2017-01-03 21:22:21] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: hey, how does bitmex you determine whether longs or shorts will pay funding [2017-01-03 21:22:25] MikeHunt : fomos would get woodchipped [2017-01-03 21:22:36] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Sam: hey, how does bitmex determine whether longs or shorts will pay funding [2017-01-03 21:22:53] BitMEX_Sam : alejandromasari: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding [2017-01-03 21:23:01] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: The market determines this, we do not. [2017-01-03 21:23:15] BitMEX_Greg : Please take a read of the link Sam provided [2017-01-03 21:32:13] Milkman : btfd [2017-01-03 21:34:09] sleger : the d in btfd does not stand for "top", fyi [2017-01-03 21:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.001436 [2017-01-03 21:40:05] rapidtrades : PARAFFIN: FOMO = idiots panic buying [2017-01-03 21:40:21] rapidtrades : DOMO =idiots panic selling [2017-01-03 21:40:41] PARAFFIN : rapidtrades: OK =) [2017-01-03 21:40:53] PARAFFIN : SHOULD WE FOMO NOWẞ [2017-01-03 21:41:32] rapidtrades : no i'd wait until everyone's in [2017-01-03 21:41:57] PARAFFIN : you have good timing? [2017-01-03 21:42:20] rapidtrades : i have the worst timing [2017-01-03 21:42:51] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: gone long? [2017-01-03 21:43:24] rapidtrades : i haven't made any changes to my position [2017-01-03 21:49:23] BTCDJS : PARAFFIN: you can't keep trading like this. These guys didn't become decent enough at trading to sustain themselves by asking someone else what to do. [2017-01-03 21:49:51] BTCDJS : That was a description of rapid [2017-01-03 21:50:27] BTCDJS : sleger didn't become rich from trading by asking someone else when to buy and sell [2017-01-03 21:51:28] QuantFocus : how DID sleger get rich? [2017-01-03 21:51:35] QuantFocus : 1150 btc short to 350? [2017-01-03 21:51:41] alejandromasari : sleger went bust [2017-01-03 21:51:44] alejandromasari : he's gone [2017-01-03 21:52:13] QuantFocus : i hope to party in a $20M penthouse in NYC next year for NYE [2017-01-03 21:52:28] QuantFocus : I'm sure it's good clean fun [2017-01-03 21:52:43] BitMEX_Sam : Just remember whose penthouse it was :p [2017-01-03 21:53:15] QuantFocus : whose was it? [2017-01-03 21:53:31] QuantFocus : anyone know of pttx? [2017-01-03 21:53:50] BitMEX_Sam : Not mine, but not his either. [2017-01-03 21:54:54] QuantFocus : oh, for sure [2017-01-03 21:55:06] QuantFocus : did arthur bring you guys out to HK this year? [2017-01-03 21:55:33] alejandromasari : QuantFocus: he's full of shiet [2017-01-03 21:55:40] BTCDJS : Party was crap anyway. No dwarf throwing games [2017-01-03 21:55:49] sleger : alejandromasari: do not be jealous you have bigger arms than I do. [2017-01-03 22:00:43] rapidtrades : I think even if I told everyone how I trade 95% wouldn't follow it cos its too simple [2017-01-03 22:01:21] sleger : also maybe they dont want to buy zec at 3 :p [2017-01-03 22:01:35] rapidtrades : but when I was a newb I was all i [2017-01-03 22:01:52] sleger : anyone remembers the name of that surgical procedure, where they take parts of your brain and inject in your arm ? @alejandromasari maybe ? [2017-01-03 22:01:58] rapidtrades : but when I was a newb I was all into complicated shit and indicators and patterns [2017-01-03 22:02:13] rapidtrades : sry site froze on me again [2017-01-03 22:04:32] herpinator : im short looking for re-entry at 1018 is this dumb? [2017-01-03 22:07:21] Milkman : herpinator: shorting near the top isnt dumb. [2017-01-03 22:11:38] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: so please tel me how do you trade? Fib only? [2017-01-03 22:12:43] rapidtrades : no fibs [2017-01-03 22:12:46] BTCDJS : I like simple [2017-01-03 22:12:51] BTCDJS : spill it [2017-01-03 22:13:27] BTCDJS : S [2017-01-03 22:13:27] BTCDJS : P [2017-01-03 22:13:28] BTCDJS : I [2017-01-03 22:13:29] BTCDJS : L [2017-01-03 22:13:30] BTCDJS : L [2017-01-03 22:13:31] BTCDJS : I [2017-01-03 22:13:32] BTCDJS : T [2017-01-03 22:14:23] BTCDJS : Please? [2017-01-03 22:15:07] PARAFFIN : luck? [2017-01-03 22:15:53] rapidtrades : momentum [2017-01-03 22:16:21] Milkman : i trade based on the trollbox indicator [2017-01-03 22:16:41] BTCDJS : That single word can probably be elaborated into an essay [2017-01-03 22:17:00] BTCDJS : 30 pages long [2017-01-03 22:17:36] BTCDJS : back and front [2017-01-03 22:17:41] rapidtrades : pick any of the popular momentum trading rules and see how it performed on btc/usd [2017-01-03 22:18:10] rapidtrades : i'd wager 95% +of them made money [2017-01-03 22:18:48] Milkman : lol @ 0kcoin 12 hour candles. the last 3 [2017-01-03 22:18:59] Milkman : wicks, wicks everywhere [2017-01-03 22:19:17] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: ok I'll read up [2017-01-03 22:19:33] BTCDJS : thanks [2017-01-03 22:21:56] MikeHunt : if you delerage while in positive does some of the profit go back to your available balance? [2017-01-03 22:24:15] QuantFocus : i believe unrealized is even utilized for balance [2017-01-03 22:24:16] QuantFocus : so yes [2017-01-03 22:25:39] justinlooking : Milkman: the triple doji on 12 hour is v interesting, good spot [2017-01-03 22:26:13] Milkman : bots trying not to tip their next move to us [2017-01-03 22:28:06] MikeHunt : Milkman: they might tip the whole thing over in the process [2017-01-03 22:29:31] justinlooking : i challenge anyone to name a better ide than vscode [2017-01-03 22:30:09] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: https://xkcd.com/378/ [2017-01-03 22:30:30] justinlooking : :) [2017-01-03 22:30:31] narnarfromnarnia : triple doji [2017-01-03 22:30:33] narnarfromnarnia : wow [2017-01-03 22:30:42] narnarfromnarnia : collapse coming [2017-01-03 22:33:00] justinlooking : lol gg gl [2017-01-03 22:33:09] justinlooking : THY WILL BE REKT [2017-01-03 22:37:39] MikeHunt : spike up then down? [2017-01-03 22:38:25] PARAFFIN : check that stamp col [2017-01-03 22:38:30] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: if i deleverage a profitable trade do I get balance back in my account? [2017-01-03 22:38:47] BitMEX_Sam : Yes [2017-01-03 22:39:06] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Yes, if you close a trade at profit you get realised PNL which is immediately available [2017-01-03 22:39:24] imapotato : MM bots don't like it when I place a bid an ask each for 1 contract with a $0.01 spread. [2017-01-03 22:39:45] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: so if I slide the leverage back one for example from 10x to 5x, i get 5x worth of profit back in balance? [2017-01-03 22:40:31] justinlooking : wut no MikeHunt [2017-01-03 22:40:36] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: No, that does not change your position, it just changes how much margin is allocated to it [2017-01-03 22:40:58] BitMEX_Wally : I though you were talking about ADL (Automatically Deleveraging) which refers to the force closing of a position at a profit [2017-01-03 22:41:27] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: Hah, just be aware of https://blog.bitmex.com/notice-regarding-spam-orders/ [2017-01-03 22:42:31] imapotato : Ah, sorry for the micro-annoyance, but it's just 2 fun orders. I won't be flooding you with single contracts ;) [2017-01-03 22:43:02] BitMEX_Wally : imapotato: No problem, two or three small orders is fine [2017-01-03 22:43:08] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: what about the profit made from the position? that remains untouched? [2017-01-03 22:43:22] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Yes, i remains as unrealised PNL [2017-01-03 22:43:34] BitMEX_Wally : MikeHunt: Changing the leverage does not change the size of the position, it changes the margin allocated to it