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[2017-01-03 12:17:06] foobar : are those available on the blog?
[2017-01-03 12:19:27] Kalman : foobar: why dont you pay an advisor ?!
[2017-01-03 12:19:55] foobar : they have those?
[2017-01-03 12:20:00] foobar : where do you find them?
[2017-01-03 12:20:31] foobar : i was interested in learning this stuff myself, but would be down with an advisor in the interim
[2017-01-03 12:20:36] BitMEX_Wally : There is a recent YouTUbe video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehDfHTa8Sg
[2017-01-03 12:20:36] Kalman : just send the btc here : 3BMEXP2jsZpgMe7Xsoh9jQ49MbDSx57cqA
[2017-01-03 12:21:20] Kalman : afterwards you can focus on what you really can!!
[2017-01-03 12:21:23] BitMEX_Wally : The articles from the weekly Crypto Trader Digest email get put on the blog after a day or so
[2017-01-03 12:23:39] Kalman : foobar: left is only to tell me what you return objective is
[2017-01-03 12:24:45] foobar : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, i will check that one out
[2017-01-03 12:35:02] rms : why look at that, the pump starts exactly when the first US wires clear at 7:30am on january 3rd
[2017-01-03 12:35:17] weather b0y4 : rms, i just opened a large long =)
[2017-01-03 12:35:23] weather b0y4 : lets hope this is as good as we think...
[2017-01-03 12:35:29] rms : happy bitcoin everyone
[2017-01-03 12:37:15] weather b0y4 : buy support looks good on almost all exchanges
[2017-01-03 12:37:39] weather b0y4 : kraken 1 euro from all time highs
[2017-01-03 12:37:44] weather b0y4 : shoud be good day =)
[2017-01-03 12:41:20] rowrow : walk away for 2 mins and price goes up $5
[2017-01-03 12:42:40] rms : it's cool, just buy more
[2017-01-03 12:42:48] rms : buy high, sell higher
[2017-01-03 12:44:01] rowrow : yeah, sounds about where bitcoin is at right now
[2017-01-03 12:45:21] rowrow : we keep getting stuck at the 1030 range past day or two
[2017-01-03 12:45:42] rms : more wires clear at 8AM and 9AM
[2017-01-03 12:45:43] narnarfromnarnia : freezing up again
[2017-01-03 12:45:44] narnarfromnarnia : :(
[2017-01-03 12:45:52] rms : if we don't break out of the range at 9AM we're fucked for a week or so
[2017-01-03 12:45:59] brouk : looking at 12 hour this should drop down
[2017-01-03 12:47:12] rowrow : anyone know how much more depth the chinese order books tend to have? obviously far more volume but hyper inflated without fees
[2017-01-03 12:47:14] foobar : i haven't really analyzed much data, but seeing bitmex price at a discount to the kaiko quote is something i haven't seen before
[2017-01-03 12:47:37] foobar : in the past couple days
[2017-01-03 12:47:48] rms : it happens whenever shorts get paid a lot
[2017-01-03 12:48:19] rowrow : it's probably above like 80% of the time, below 20%, something like that from what i've seen
[2017-01-03 12:49:10] rowrow : occasionally funding for longs will go negative
[2017-01-03 12:49:59] brouk : 1m on okc looks bloody as fk
[2017-01-03 12:50:01] brouk : lol
[2017-01-03 12:50:29] foobar : rowrow: wow, so you can get paid out on long
[2017-01-03 12:50:32] rms : anyone know how the index price for xbtcny is weighted?
[2017-01-03 12:50:32] foobar : that is amazing
[2017-01-03 12:51:15] brouk : foobar: yeah you can do that in 15 hours if the predicted rate will keep at -0.15%
[2017-01-03 12:51:27] rowrow : yeah, but average is probably like .1% or a little more for the shorters
[2017-01-03 12:52:12] rowrow : brouk: can you check okc order books without making an account?
[2017-01-03 12:52:29] brouk : rowrow: yes
[2017-01-03 12:53:37] brouk : rowrow: its public data, the depth is shown on cryptowat.ch for example
[2017-01-03 12:54:07] rowrow : brouk: thanks, yeah some of the chinese order books are pretty crazy to follow, like 5 trades a second
[2017-01-03 12:58:46] rapidtrades : hi
[2017-01-03 12:59:42] rms : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38495804
[2017-01-03 13:00:34] rapidtrades : China's currency, the renminbi, fell about 7% in value last year. Bitcoin rose 125% in value last year
[2017-01-03 13:01:00] rapidtrades : clear correlation right there
[2017-01-03 13:02:27] rapidtrades : i was reading bitcoin markets earlier and its crazy how many ppl expect 5k to 10k coins
[2017-01-03 13:02:54] rapidtrades : we're now even more retard then usual
[2017-01-03 13:03:25] Apocalyptic : crazy expectations, but this is bitcoin rapid
[2017-01-03 13:03:29] brouk : "There are currently about 15 million Bitcoins in existence."
[2017-01-03 13:03:37] brouk : aren't there 16 million already?
[2017-01-03 13:04:41] Apocalyptic : brouk: theoretically yes, but about 1M is believed to be held in satoshi's adresses, and not spendable
[2017-01-03 13:06:33] brouk : that is "lost" bitcoins?
[2017-01-03 13:07:03] Apocalyptic : brouk: it is generally treated as such, yes
[2017-01-03 13:08:11] rapidtrades : didnt we do 1 hard fork since creation? would that render them unspendable
[2017-01-03 13:09:19] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: there are not technically unspendable, it's just that no one believes he still has the keys to them or that he will be willing to spend them
[2017-01-03 13:09:45] Apocalyptic : and there was no hard fork afaik
[2017-01-03 13:10:08] rapidtrades : there was 1
[2017-01-03 13:10:14] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: when ?
[2017-01-03 13:10:34] rapidtrades : 2011? when 1 billion btc were created
[2017-01-03 13:10:35] brouk : is it possible that someday in the future we will be able to brute force the lost private keys for these bitcoins?
[2017-01-03 13:10:51] mariomarco : brouk: nope
[2017-01-03 13:10:57] brouk : mariomarco: why not?
[2017-01-03 13:10:58] rms : http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/36090/has-a-hard-fork-ever-occurred
[2017-01-03 13:11:14] mariomarco : brouk: btc is quantum computer resistant
[2017-01-03 13:11:25] mariomarco : if you could brute force a lost account you could brute any account
[2017-01-03 13:11:31] mariomarco : so yeah :D
[2017-01-03 13:11:43] mariomarco : quantum processor rather
[2017-01-03 13:11:50] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident this ?
[2017-01-03 13:11:58] rullwull : keep in mind that over 20% of bitcoins are lost, people simply loose their private keys
[2017-01-03 13:12:17] Apocalyptic : or their HD crashes and no backup
[2017-01-03 13:13:34] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: yes
[2017-01-03 13:16:19] Apocalyptic : I guess you can call it a fork
[2017-01-03 13:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60 @ 1081.07
[2017-01-03 13:18:38] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: so his coins are gone?
[2017-01-03 13:19:35] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: read what I said above
[2017-01-03 13:20:36] Apocalyptic : people just think that if he could/wanted to move them, he would have done so by now
[2017-01-03 13:21:29] tommygunn : Good Morning NA, good night china
[2017-01-03 13:23:15] tommygunn : looks like we are still in da chop
[2017-01-03 13:24:28] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: maybe he never needed them until now?
[2017-01-03 13:27:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60000 @ 1076.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-03 13:32:27] Rado2 : rapidtrades: who is that rapidtrades?
[2017-01-03 13:32:57] rapidtrades : Satoshi
[2017-01-03 13:33:15] arbitrage001 : Satoshi is a god
[2017-01-03 13:33:25] arbitrage001 : he doesn't need money
[2017-01-03 13:35:01] BTCDJS : Lol
[2017-01-03 13:35:10] mariomarco : rapidtrades: can you help me out with somethign?
[2017-01-03 13:35:27] rowrow : he's waiting for the market cap to hit 1t then dump it all down to 1b and laugh at people
[2017-01-03 13:35:35] BTCDJS : No he is not a god. Don't start spreading fairy tails to noobs
[2017-01-03 13:36:12] BTCDJS : thats how religions start
[2017-01-03 13:36:42] BTCDJS : We don't need another cult
[2017-01-03 13:37:58] rapidtrades : http://www.christianitytoday.com/satoshi-jesus-himself
[2017-01-03 13:38:15] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: the link above says ur WRONG
[2017-01-03 13:39:14] BTCDJS : Error page. Cannot find what you're looking for
[2017-01-03 13:39:46] BTCDJS : So ner ner ner ner ner
[2017-01-03 13:40:12] rapidtrades : http://news.forexlive.com/!/gm-motors-in-the-trump-firing-line-20170103
[2017-01-03 13:40:15] rapidtrades : try that one ^
[2017-01-03 13:40:54] BTCDJS : Wat?
[2017-01-03 13:41:05] BTCDJS : You trying to hack me?
[2017-01-03 13:41:13] BTCDJS : What is this shit?
[2017-01-03 13:41:54] mutato : Bitcoin is dead, Satoshi is the drowned god
[2017-01-03 13:41:58] Apocalyptic : rapid is the most feared hacker in the trollbox, don't just trust his links
[2017-01-03 13:41:59] mutato : What Is Dead May Never Die
[2017-01-03 13:45:33] laisee : Satoshi is code, now and forever
[2017-01-03 13:46:12] BTCDJS : OMG a cult is starting
[2017-01-03 13:46:27] laisee : blasphemy!
[2017-01-03 13:46:40] laisee : cast out the unbelievers ...
[2017-01-03 13:47:00] narnarfromnarnia : why can't we see the current mark price?
[2017-01-03 13:47:09] narnarfromnarnia : even without a position open we should be able to see that no?
[2017-01-03 13:47:28] BTCDJS : Bow down to the steem god. His deciple was here preaching yesterday
[2017-01-03 13:47:42] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: lol
[2017-01-03 13:47:54] BTCDJS : he will and should defeat the bitcoin god apparently
[2017-01-03 13:47:58] Apocalyptic : I wonder why he's pumpim that alt
[2017-01-03 13:48:29] BTCDJS : he gets 200 a week and he wants to sell them to people
[2017-01-03 13:48:38] BTCDJS : or something like that
[2017-01-03 13:48:44] laisee : pimpimg to an audience of few humdred traders ... wasted effort
[2017-01-03 13:48:45] Apocalyptic : finex below bearstamp
[2017-01-03 13:48:49] rapidtrades : narnarfromnarnia: mark proce is right there in middle, hover over shit
[2017-01-03 13:48:52] BTCDJS : Wasn't paying too much attention
[2017-01-03 13:49:10] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ykva43lbj4xw218/Screenshot%202017-01-03%2007.49.07.png?dl=0
[2017-01-03 13:49:13] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades:
[2017-01-03 13:49:25] laisee : people shouldnt trade their rent money hi on c.ra.ck
[2017-01-03 13:50:18] rms : ok futures go!
[2017-01-03 13:50:40] BTCDJS : Oh wait this part I do remember. He doesn't trade it he only sells it-his words
[2017-01-03 13:51:08] elmorte : rms: what contract did you make most of that bounty on?
[2017-01-03 13:51:56] rms : split up between the different bitcoin contracts
[2017-01-03 13:52:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 5 @ 0.008430
[2017-01-03 13:53:26] elmorte : rms: nice
[2017-01-03 13:53:40] elmorte : totally vague, but still nice
[2017-01-03 13:54:16] rms : swaps, 2016 futures, 2017 futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:20] rms : no yuan futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:31] rms : but i realized that was dumb and now i have yuan futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:55] rms : always long, never short on bitcoin
[2017-01-03 13:55:10] elmorte : Cool, nice one, cheers
[2017-01-03 13:56:43] rapidtrades : cheers!
[2017-01-03 13:57:03] rapidtrades : TO THE DEATH OF BITCOIN
[2017-01-03 13:57:09] dannybreal : cmon guys help the market throw i a mil someone pls
[2017-01-03 14:00:03] BTCDJS : dannybreal: close to margin call?
[2017-01-03 14:01:12] dannybreal : nope, market needs it to bounce
[2017-01-03 14:01:52] BTCDJS : Close long but back a triple digits ?
[2017-01-03 14:02:51] BTCDJS : Buy* at*
[2017-01-03 14:03:00] BTCDJS : stupid phone
[2017-01-03 14:05:40] dannybreal : :D
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : I have found an interesting thing. orderQty > cumQty in my testnet execution message: {"table":"execution","action":"insert","data":[{"execID":"902166f9-c9f8-f0d3-07be-1f7a849045fe","orderID":"1167ab24-9d1c-d8ac-5ffb-47798b8f9f0f","clOrdID":"O1483364453783_39432","clOrdLinkID":"","account":1087,"symbol":"XBTUSD","side":"Sell","lastQty":2001,"lastPx":1012.88,"underlyingLastPx":null,"lastMkt":"XBME","lastLiquidityInd":"AddedLiquidity
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : ","simpleOrderQty":null,"orderQty":2000,"price":1012.88,"displayQty":null,"stopPx":null,"pegOffsetValue":null,"pegPriceType":"","currency":"USD","settlCurrency":"XBt","execType":"Trade","ordType":"Limit","timeInForce":"GoodTillCancel","execInst":"ParticipateDoNotInitiate","contingencyType":"","exDestination":"XBME","ordStatus":"Filled","triggered":"","workingIndicator":false,"ordRejReason":"","simpleLeavesQty":0,"leavesQty":0,"
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : simpleCumQty":1.97554728,"cumQty":2001,"avgPx":1012.88,"commission":-0.00025,"tradePublishIndicator":"PublishTrade","multiLegReportingType":"SingleSecurity","text":"Submitted via API.","trdMatchID":"1ddefa23-1895-90a1-8164-5b5843d776c8","execCost":197554728,"execComm":-49389,"homeNotional":-1.97554728,"foreignNotional":2001,"transactTime":"2017-01-02T13:41:50.353Z","timestamp":"2017-01-02T13:41:50.353Z"}]}
[2017-01-03 14:07:47] martyix : "orderQty":2000 and "cumQty":2001 and "lastQty":2001
[2017-01-03 14:07:58] Rado : martyix: testnet has some code that is "tested"
[2017-01-03 14:08:02] Rado : report it to BitMEX
[2017-01-03 14:08:42] martyix : Rado: well, bitmex folks read it here
[2017-01-03 14:08:43] BitMEX_Wally : martyix: Thanks, I will investigate
[2017-01-03 14:09:04] martyix : muchas gracias :)
[2017-01-03 14:09:49] Rado2 : martyix: well you need to say one of the magic words
[2017-01-03 14:09:56] Rado2 : support, BitMEX etc
[2017-01-03 14:10:22] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: what are the words you have alerts on?
[2017-01-03 14:10:27] martyix : I see. Thanks. I'll report it correctly next time.
[2017-01-03 14:10:56] BitMEX_Wally : Rado2: There are no keywords, we just keep an eye on the trollbox
[2017-01-03 14:10:59] Rado2 : martyix: also the best way to report something is to send an email to support@bitmex.com
[2017-01-03 14:11:10] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2017-01-03 14:11:32] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: I appreciate the quick response to my requests
[2017-01-03 14:11:36] mariomarco : BitMEX_Wally: how long can a position stay open on a perpetual swap?
[2017-01-03 14:11:47] Rado2 : mariomarco: forever
[2017-01-03 14:11:47] sleger : only until perpetuity
[2017-01-03 14:11:52] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2017-01-03 14:12:04] Rado2 : sleger: how was your flight
[2017-01-03 14:12:16] mariomarco : so potentially people that opened long at let say 800 can still have it open?
[2017-01-03 14:12:16] sleger : usual, fine, short
[2017-01-03 14:12:25] Rado2 : nice
[2017-01-03 14:13:53] Rado2 : sleger: after a few tweaks my bot performing much better
[2017-01-03 14:13:55] BitMEX_Wally : Rado2: Thanks for reporting that, it was due to a special order being tested in testnet that traded against your limit order. I will fix that rounding issue
[2017-01-03 14:14:28] sleger : Rado2: isnt it too early to say ?
[2017-01-03 14:14:34] Rado2 : a lot more work to do on dynamic spread
[2017-01-03 14:14:57] Rado2 : sleger: it is early, but happy with what I see so far
[2017-01-03 14:15:07] Rado2 : handled a few big drops very nice
[2017-01-03 14:15:19] sleger : what size are you quoting now ?
[2017-01-03 14:15:33] Rado2 : the big problem I need to solve now is I am leavign money on the table by not adjusting spread
[2017-01-03 14:15:53] Rado2 : I am still at 500, but thinking of changing to 1000
[2017-01-03 14:16:03] sleger : most bots here are coded to only improve best bid/ask by minimal increment
[2017-01-03 14:17:06] Rado2 : I know
[2017-01-03 14:17:28] Rado2 : I have one feature that is totally my own :-)
[2017-01-03 14:17:43] Rado2 : maybe other has a similar thing, not really sure
[2017-01-03 14:17:49] rapidtrades : sleger: ur russian gf amost died https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGCO6bOOKpo
[2017-01-03 14:18:36] Rado2 : rapidtrades: ha ha
[2017-01-03 14:21:19] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: are bots on testnet trying to outsmart each other or there are some "test" trades by users?
[2017-01-03 14:21:55] Rado2 : the only thing I can really test is that the code doesn't have errors there
[2017-01-03 14:23:00] Rado2 : It will be great if there is a simulated orders place based on some algo
[2017-01-03 14:26:09] Rado : chop chop till you drop
[2017-01-03 14:26:24] Rado : need another push higher to get some shorts
[2017-01-03 14:26:50] MikeHunt : is this why they call it a woodchipper?
[2017-01-03 14:28:16] Rado2 : MikeHunt: http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2017-01-03 14:29:11] Wigga : 多仓被爆: 卖出
[2017-01-03 14:32:53] Naloxone : I feel like the rekt train will arrive soon
[2017-01-03 14:35:12] zach719 : buy the dip?
[2017-01-03 14:36:35] cryptomad : Bitmex support..???
[2017-01-03 14:36:45] cryptomad : Someone here...??
[2017-01-03 14:36:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150 @ 1071.90
[2017-01-03 14:37:30] moo : China desperation pump...
[2017-01-03 14:41:45] BitMEX_Wally : cryptomad: Hello
[2017-01-03 14:45:02] narnarfromnarnia : why are longs being liquidated when the trend is up?
[2017-01-03 14:45:41] exo : really high leverage probs
[2017-01-03 14:45:46] exo : and they bought at top
[2017-01-03 14:46:10] narnarfromnarnia : i see
[2017-01-03 14:46:41] laisee : price dipped to 1071
[2017-01-03 14:47:54] rowrow : you ain't really livin' if you don't use 100x leverage
[2017-01-03 14:50:30] zach719 : bitmex why u dumpin?
[2017-01-03 14:51:04] Apocalyptic : zach719: gotta dump one day
[2017-01-03 14:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 190 @ 0.001498
[2017-01-03 14:55:01] BTCDJS : Rado2: what do you think about haasbot? Any good?
[2017-01-03 14:55:23] Rado2 : BTCDJS: haven't tried that one
[2017-01-03 14:56:06] BTCDJS : Rado2: coindesk rated it 4.5/5
[2017-01-03 14:56:17] cryptomad : BitMEX_Wally: If made a long with 10btc's my profit was of $2 per BTC..Why my PNL is coming in minus (-)
[2017-01-03 14:56:17] BTCDJS : but I've never us d a bot
[2017-01-03 14:56:48] BTCDJS : thinking about it. Is it difficult for non coders? @Rado2
[2017-01-03 14:57:05] Rado2 : yes
[2017-01-03 14:57:06] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Have you closed your position yet?
[2017-01-03 14:57:17] cryptomad : Yes
[2017-01-03 14:57:20] cryptomad : it is closed.
[2017-01-03 14:57:46] BTCDJS : ?
[2017-01-03 14:57:52] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Take a look at your Trade History: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-01-03 14:58:09] BitMEX_Greg : You will be able to decode what was going on with your account. Take notice of any fees or funding paid
[2017-01-03 14:58:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 3 @ 0.008700
[2017-01-03 14:59:00] cryptomad : http://prntscr.com/dr0p84
[2017-01-03 14:59:32] cryptomad : i told you if i took a profit of $20 what funding rate will be applied on it..??
[2017-01-03 15:00:27] cryptomad : BitMEX_Greg: http://prntscr.com/dr0p84 i told you if i took a profit of $20 what funding rate will be applied on it..??
[2017-01-03 15:00:34] tommygunn : REKT:
[2017-01-03 15:00:54] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: hi I am looking at my trading history it says fee pain in negative and green does that mean I earned a credit?
[2017-01-03 15:01:06] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: You said $2 per Bitcoin above. Have you looked into your trading history yet?
[2017-01-03 15:01:12] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: fee paid
[2017-01-03 15:01:25] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: Yes, a negative fee means you are receiving that amount
[2017-01-03 15:01:27] cryptomad : I did..!!
[2017-01-03 15:01:38] cryptomad : Yeahhh..
[2017-01-03 15:01:51] cryptomad : How log does it takes..??
[2017-01-03 15:02:03] cryptomad : BitMEX_Greg: Yeahhh.. How log does it takes..??
[2017-01-03 15:02:05] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: How long does what take?
[2017-01-03 15:02:57] cryptomad : @BitMEX_Greg For that Unrealised PNL..??
[2017-01-03 15:04:01] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: The Realised PNL number you see is your life to date PNL on the contract. You may have made losses before
[2017-01-03 15:04:22] BitMEX_Greg : When you close a position on your unrealised PNL, it gets converted into realised PNL
[2017-01-03 15:05:58] cryptomad : BitMEX_Greg: Dude..There is no loos..I told you..$2 for each BTC order was of 8btc.. $16.. how it can be in minus(-) What is fee on it..100%...???
[2017-01-03 15:06:09] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Your transaction history (https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet) combined with your Trade History (https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory) will give you an idea of your trading
[2017-01-03 15:07:12] cryptomad : Unrealised PNL is what..?? pending amount to be paid..??
[2017-01-03 15:07:29] cryptomad : BitMEX_Greg: Unrealised PNL is what..?? pending amount to be paid..?? To me..??
[2017-01-03 15:07:31] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Unrealised PNL is profit or loss that has not been realised yet
[2017-01-03 15:07:57] cryptomad : @BitMEX_Greg Ok thanxx
[2017-01-03 15:10:27] Noob : I sold at market. The price dropped by 20 points to complete the order. In other words, selling at market dropped my average price by around 20. Is this normal?
[2017-01-03 15:10:50] brouk : yes
[2017-01-03 15:11:07] brouk : if you sell large position
[2017-01-03 15:11:26] Noob : Lesson learned (the hard way) I was up at least 35% ROE.
[2017-01-03 15:11:32] brouk : order book is dynamic
[2017-01-03 15:11:50] brouk : you better sell by smaller amounts multiple times
[2017-01-03 15:12:05] brouk : or put limit sell order
[2017-01-03 15:12:29] Noob : @brouk thanks for the advice.
[2017-01-03 15:13:25] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: No problem. Just take a look at the trade history first. It will explain a few items such as funding paid, or fees paid. You can also see the price and quantity you entered the position and exited. The rows on the Transaction History do not necessarily show the entire trade history, that row could be from a funding payment, or a fee payment, for example.
[2017-01-03 15:13:51] brouk : Noob: also, % ROE is calculated based on mark price, which can be different from order book prices (market prices)
[2017-01-03 15:14:04] tommygunn : eth super rocket
[2017-01-03 15:16:59] tommygunn : serious rocket
[2017-01-03 15:17:38] dannybreal : boooooring ä
[2017-01-03 15:19:08] tommygunn : just ate a 130 btc wall like nothing
[2017-01-03 15:25:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 10 @ 0.009230
[2017-01-03 15:26:26] aethlios : eth rally to 0.014 possible technically, if combined with btc down. I will post chart
[2017-01-03 15:27:21] tommygunn : REKT:
[2017-01-03 15:27:39] tommygunn : I moved sell way up
[2017-01-03 15:27:42] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/JookV6LF/ broke dily descending trendline
[2017-01-03 15:27:46] tommygunn : look at volume
[2017-01-03 15:29:05] tommygunn : aethlios: thanks for chart
[2017-01-03 15:31:29] moo : having so much problems with the site....
[2017-01-03 15:39:38] $$ : Wow eth
[2017-01-03 15:40:54] BitMEX_Sam : moo: What problems?
[2017-01-03 15:41:16] moo : sam getting blank white page very often
[2017-01-03 15:41:25] moo : instead of the site
[2017-01-03 15:42:04] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm, that is quite odd - are you refreshing often or something?
[2017-01-03 15:42:49] moo : not really
[2017-01-03 15:42:54] moo : just after closing the browser
[2017-01-03 15:42:57] moo : sometimes cant get back in
[2017-01-03 15:43:34] BitMEX_Sam : Just blank - no errors?
[2017-01-03 15:46:01] BitMEX_Wally : Rado2: I've fixed that overfill bug in testnet
[2017-01-03 15:47:42] rapidtrades : that freze happened few times again today
[2017-01-03 15:47:50] rapidtrades : also its quite laggy atm
[2017-01-03 15:49:18] bitbit : hello my XMRBTC position has been liquidate in error .. price has never reached 0.015677
[2017-01-03 15:49:21] bitbit : please can you refund it thank you
[2017-01-03 15:49:41] aethlios : btc to 820 and eth to 0.014 will be a nice switch and then back to btc.
[2017-01-03 15:50:28] bitbit : how can I talk to an admin here? my position has been wrongly liquidated (price never reached)
[2017-01-03 15:52:25] sleger : REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 6 @ 0.015682
[2017-01-03 15:52:31] sleger : your position of size 6 ?
[2017-01-03 15:52:49] bitbit : sleger: no it was 100
[2017-01-03 15:53:14] BitMEX_Sam : bitbit: You can reply to the liquidation email to reach us directly & privately
[2017-01-03 15:53:24] sleger : bitbit: liquidations are not based on index price but on the futures price
[2017-01-03 15:53:24] bitbit : BitMEX_Sam: ok
[2017-01-03 15:53:48] bitbit : BitMEX_Sam: I checked everywhere I never saw that price.. I will send you an email
[2017-01-03 15:55:58] BitMEX_Greg : bitbit: Will await your email. As sleger mentions, liquidations are based on mark price. Not last traded price
[2017-01-03 15:58:17] aethlios : BitMEX_Greg: bitmex volume very high, I am sure there is a bright future for traders employees and investors of bitmex.
[2017-01-03 15:59:13] BitMEX_Greg : aethlios: Thanks for the kind words!
[2017-01-03 15:59:45] moo : ye just blank
[2017-01-03 15:59:49] moo : and sometimes login page looks weird
[2017-01-03 15:59:52] Apocalyptic : BitMEX_Greg: he's right, from what I saw you guys rock, keep up the good work!
[2017-01-03 15:59:55] moo : not all graphics loading and scale looks off
[2017-01-03 16:00:17] BitMEX_Greg : :+1:
[2017-01-03 16:00:22] BitMEX_Greg : moo: Try refresh the page
[2017-01-03 16:00:30] BitMEX_Sam : moo: It's possible that if you're refreshing too often, you're hitting ratelimits on the site
[2017-01-03 16:01:12] moo : its possible, but it usually happens when i close the site and try to reopen it after a decent amount of time
[2017-01-03 16:01:35] BitMEX_Sam : I am seeing your IP refreshing the site almost every second
[2017-01-03 16:02:44] BitMEX_Sam : About a half hour ago, you refreshed about 15 times in 45 seconds. It seems to have calmed down now
[2017-01-03 16:02:58] BitMEX_Sam : But that can cause issues as each account has its own ratelimits, and if you refresh the page too often, you'll hit them.
[2017-01-03 16:03:22] $$ : What will happen if the price tanks during bitmex down time? Margin calls when site comes back up?
[2017-01-03 16:05:31] Rado2 : $$: best thing to do is not have a position I guess
[2017-01-03 16:05:32] BitMEX_Wally : We we cancel the downtime if the price is volatiile
[2017-01-03 16:06:32] Rado2 : I am stopping my bot during the maintenance
[2017-01-03 16:07:09] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: what time was it?
[2017-01-03 16:08:08] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: I haven't got an email
[2017-01-03 16:08:12] l3f : about the downtime
[2017-01-03 16:08:35] bingbongfly : l3f: Check junkmail
[2017-01-03 16:08:39] BitMEX_Wally : The announcement is here: https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/scheduled-maintenance-january-5-1400-utc/
[2017-01-03 16:08:46] bingbongfly : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks! :)
[2017-01-03 16:08:58] l3f : BitMEX_Wally: Should send an email regardless
[2017-01-03 16:09:07] BitMEX_Wally : Yes we will send out an email
[2017-01-03 16:12:06] tommygunn : sold eth in 92 range, rebought the dip at 89 target 1-1.4
[2017-01-03 16:12:29] Milkman : all right
[2017-01-03 16:12:48] tommygunn : this is all on polo
[2017-01-03 16:13:49] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: is there no way to not have a downtime at all?
[2017-01-03 16:14:03] sleger : they would probably do it if it were the case
[2017-01-03 16:14:38] Milkman : is the downtime going to make bitmex faster during heavy loads?
[2017-01-03 16:14:40] Rado2 : sleger: well I am sure they can, it probably just needs investment in hardware and labor
[2017-01-03 16:14:58] BitMEX_Sam : Our last downtime was Feb 17, 2016
[2017-01-03 16:15:05] sleger : if they need to upgrade the matching engine code then not really
[2017-01-03 16:15:05] BitMEX_Sam : Occasionally servers need to be rebooted for kernel upgrades and so on.
[2017-01-03 16:15:25] BitMEX_Sam : We will be doing everything we can to make the downtime as short as possible.
[2017-01-03 16:15:34] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: can you not do it by rotating restarts of redundant systems
[2017-01-03 16:15:53] BitMEX_Sam : It doesn't work that way in the case of the trading engine, but it does for all other systems
[2017-01-03 16:16:38] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: so trading engine is not clustered in any way?
[2017-01-03 16:16:54] Rado2 : I guess it's very hard with this high availability
[2017-01-03 16:18:44] BitMEX_Sam : It is not possible to do effectively in the case of the engine; we have read replicas etc but for obvious reasons there is only one master for writes
[2017-01-03 16:19:57] BitMEX_Sam : We have had 100% availability for the last 321 days... we're quite happy with that, but occasionally we have to bounce some critical services.
[2017-01-03 16:20:52] Rado2 : BitMEX_Sam: ?
[2017-01-03 16:21:20] bingbongfly : 321 days of uptime is pretty impressive! Best exchange I've traded on hands down.
[2017-01-03 16:21:59] dannybreal : buckle up Dorothy, 'cos we are going for a ride
[2017-01-03 16:25:10] KingTuna : What's the funding rate now? Can't find from my mobile
[2017-01-03 16:27:00] deep : 0.0598
[2017-01-03 16:27:56] KingTuna : deep: thanks! I just closed my long at 1023 . Made a good $$.. now opened up a X1 short :)
[2017-01-03 16:28:27] KingTuna : Don't have big enough balls to do a real short
[2017-01-03 16:28:40] Naloxone : ETH leg 2 us starting
[2017-01-03 16:29:47] rullwull : wow, oil is very volatile today
[2017-01-03 16:31:15] Naloxone : rullwull: what is your broker?
[2017-01-03 16:32:18] rullwull : simplefx
[2017-01-03 16:32:52] Naloxone : rullwull: 500X? :)
[2017-01-03 16:33:12] rullwull : oil is lower
[2017-01-03 16:34:15] tommygunn : looks like buying dip is the key in btc and eth
[2017-01-03 16:34:42] KingTuna : ETH to go back above 0.01?
[2017-01-03 16:34:50] Naloxone : @tommygunn or shorting top
[2017-01-03 16:35:37] tommygunn : Naloxone: of course, we need shorting
[2017-01-03 16:36:34] tommygunn : aethlios: posted this nice chart https://www.tradingview.com/x/JookV6LF/
[2017-01-03 16:38:08] tommygunn : eth busts out here and there keep an eye on it, fomo is big on that one as well
[2017-01-03 16:38:24] MrRGnome : Anyone else still getting Error: Loading chunk 8 failed when navigating the site? Been getting it intermittently for the last 24 hours.
[2017-01-03 16:39:18] tommygunn : good reason it has Ethereum $826,342,943 marketcap currently
[2017-01-03 16:47:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 10 @ 0.009100
[2017-01-03 16:50:30] Milkman : MrRGnome: i got it a few hours ago but a refresh fixed it
[2017-01-03 17:01:42] BitMEX_Greg : MrRGnome: Please refresh the page
[2017-01-03 17:02:28] MrRGnome : It's working now, but I do always ctr+F5 when I see the issue
[2017-01-03 17:03:54] BitMEX_Sam : MrRGnome: I'm looking into it
[2017-01-03 17:04:59] MrRGnome : Hasn't interfered with anything functional for me, today it was happening to me while trying to load the wallet page. @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-01-03 17:31:46] BTCDJS : aethlios: ETH resistance at 0.01 after that it could retrace to 0.022 50%
[2017-01-03 17:31:49] elmorte : What is the XBTCNY index composed of again? @BitMEX_Sam
[2017-01-03 17:31:57] elmorte : Can't find it in the docs
[2017-01-03 17:33:16] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: It should be equal weighted Huobi, OKC and BTCC CNY prices
[2017-01-03 17:33:39] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: is fee for opening/closing a 50x short 0.05% * 50 ?
[2017-01-03 17:33:49] elmorte : Cheers, I thought as much but can't find it documented @BitMEX_Greg
[2017-01-03 17:34:17] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: The fee is 0.075% for taker, -0.025% for maker. And it is based on the total position size.
[2017-01-03 17:34:27] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: I will add on the index page.
[2017-01-03 17:34:37] elmorte : :thumbsup:
[2017-01-03 17:36:38] aethlios : BTCDJS: 0.0135-0.0145 tech resistance. maybe some whales sold btc and will pump eth while btc corrects,
[2017-01-03 17:37:27] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: so fees arent ever multiplied on there own?
[2017-01-03 17:37:49] sleger : "based on the total position size."
[2017-01-03 17:38:02] MikeHunt : sleger: i'd rather ask a dumb question than make a dumb trade
[2017-01-03 17:38:13] sleger : your question is not clear
[2017-01-03 17:38:31] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: So lets say you open a position of 10,000 contracts. The fee is based on 10,000 contracts. This is irrespective of leverage
[2017-01-03 17:38:43] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: ahh ok thanks
[2017-01-03 17:39:12] BitMEX_Greg : MikeHunt: So you want to multiply the contract size by the executed price to get the total bitcoin value, then multiply by the fee to get a bitcoin denominated fee
[2017-01-03 17:39:27] BitMEX_Greg : np :)
[2017-01-03 17:39:31] rapidtrades : mark my words, this is some bitfinex manipulated garbage
[2017-01-03 17:39:45] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Greg: thanks for confirmation
[2017-01-03 17:39:48] moo : what exactly
[2017-01-03 17:39:56] rapidtrades : even ZEC didn't rise or fall this consistently, this is such a scam
[2017-01-03 17:39:58] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i thought huobi/woodchipper was doing it?
[2017-01-03 17:40:01] rapidtrades : obv manipulation
[2017-01-03 17:40:17] rapidtrades : nthing moves like this, this is pure BS
[2017-01-03 17:40:18] sleger : the rise doesnt come from finex
[2017-01-03 17:40:28] rapidtrades : GO CODE SMTH
[2017-01-03 17:40:40] sleger : sudo delete rapidtrades
[2017-01-03 17:41:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 10 @ 0.009270
[2017-01-03 17:41:07] rapidtrades : it's either okc or bitfinex or both of them together
[2017-01-03 17:41:23] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: are you expecting an upsurge or collapse to mean?
[2017-01-03 17:41:30] rapidtrades : collapse
[2017-01-03 17:42:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i think they will caress to 7200 ish and go up again
[2017-01-03 17:42:18] moo : when china will decide to short to multiply their coins it could snowball hard...
[2017-01-03 17:42:25] MikeHunt : or they will expect us to the buy the dip as they crash it
[2017-01-03 17:43:03] rapidtrades : we have been buying the dip ho
[2017-01-03 17:43:04] MikeHunt : that's assuming they can keep usd exchanges <= $1000
[2017-01-03 17:43:21] MikeHunt : >= $1000 *
[2017-01-03 17:43:30] MikeHunt : greater than or equal to $1000
[2017-01-03 17:43:37] MikeHunt : didnt like greater symbol hmm
[2017-01-03 17:43:55] rapidtrades : the lack of premium on 3m futures is another red flag
[2017-01-03 17:44:23] rapidtrades : this low premium hasn't happened during any of the previous rallies since last august
[2017-01-03 17:44:27] sleger : recently low premium = pump incoming
[2017-01-03 17:44:40] rapidtrades : but premium is high on weekly
[2017-01-03 17:44:43] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: make it dump already
[2017-01-03 17:44:52] rapidtrades : $4 and $7 biweekly
[2017-01-03 17:44:58] sleger : it's 2-3$ on weekly
[2017-01-03 17:45:00] sleger : thats nothing
[2017-01-03 17:45:17] rapidtrades : its better then negative, which was the case during most of the rally
[2017-01-03 17:45:30] sleger : what ?
[2017-01-03 17:45:37] rapidtrades : why are the specs not buying this move? cos its coming from some manipulated exchange
[2017-01-03 17:45:40] sleger : premium on weekly 0kc was 15$ 24hrs ago
[2017-01-03 17:45:53] rapidtrades : sleger: weekly premium was negative before that tho
[2017-01-03 17:46:02] sleger : and then price pumped
[2017-01-03 17:46:06] sleger : thats what im saying
[2017-01-03 17:46:13] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-01-03 17:46:23] rapidtrades : ur right this time its different
[2017-01-03 17:46:41] rapidtrades : guess all those newbs are right and we'll hit 5-10k soon
[2017-01-03 17:46:52] MikeHunt : they could all dump before it hits the line thou so we think its just anotehr dip
[2017-01-03 17:47:01] MikeHunt : wen it isnt
[2017-01-03 17:47:40] rapidtrades : there are so many things setting off red flag
[2017-01-03 17:47:50] rapidtrades : the size of the move, the duration, the low premiums
[2017-01-03 17:47:53] rapidtrades : it stinks
[2017-01-03 17:48:05] laisee : any change in bitcoin that supports increased valuation?
[2017-01-03 17:48:18] sleger : rapidtrades: you were saying the same at 800
[2017-01-03 17:48:25] rapidtrades : yes i was
[2017-01-03 17:48:31] zach719 : sleger: true
[2017-01-03 17:48:31] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: it looks timed so that the conclusion is roughly same time china starts business hours
[2017-01-03 17:49:46] MikeHunt : could go either way
[2017-01-03 17:50:08] sleger : either way ?
[2017-01-03 17:50:12] sleger : oh great
[2017-01-03 17:50:15] sleger : thanks for insight
[2017-01-03 17:50:21] MikeHunt : its up to the whale gods
[2017-01-03 17:50:34] MikeHunt : will they hold to 7200 or dump
[2017-01-03 17:50:41] rapidtrades : price action says we'll pump again
[2017-01-03 17:50:54] rapidtrades : has the same pattern before every pump
[2017-01-03 17:51:03] MikeHunt : sleger: when i showed you that yuan/btc chart you said btc was doomed
[2017-01-03 17:51:07] MikeHunt : ie: overbought?
[2017-01-03 17:51:23] rapidtrades : it's dumb but we'll prolly go up again
[2017-01-03 17:51:37] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i hope we do, another bully rally would be $.$
[2017-01-03 17:51:41] sleger : no its because you show 2 lines that diverge and your conclusion is that the bottom one has to reached the higher one, although the graph could mean the opposite
[2017-01-03 17:52:31] MikeHunt : sleger: im not saying it has to, but it may be an indicator of the yuans real/declining value
[2017-01-03 17:52:44] rapidtrades : yeah i haven't found divergence particularly useful
[2017-01-03 17:52:44] sleger : yes bitcoin controls the yuan price
[2017-01-03 17:52:47] sleger : that's very smart
[2017-01-03 17:52:48] MikeHunt : with the rate being set by PBOC its hard to tell
[2017-01-03 17:52:57] sleger : ^newbs
[2017-01-03 17:53:01] MikeHunt : in venuezuela its easier due to big black cash market
[2017-01-03 17:53:09] sleger : think before you type
[2017-01-03 17:53:38] MikeHunt : sleger: im not saying bitcoin controls it, it just may be an indicator
[2017-01-03 17:53:42] sleger : rapidtrades: china also might want to stop that eth rally
[2017-01-03 17:54:01] rapidtrades : why would china care about ETH
[2017-01-03 17:54:27] sleger : they dont want it to take money from btc
[2017-01-03 17:54:37] sleger : they care a lot
[2017-01-03 17:54:43] sleger : miners
[2017-01-03 17:54:46] rapidtrades : that's a weird logic
[2017-01-03 17:54:49] MikeHunt : sleger: XMR as well?
[2017-01-03 17:55:00] sleger : MikeHunt: ask your friend alejandro i dont know
[2017-01-03 17:55:01] moo : if ETH will dominate their mining ROI will be hit hard
[2017-01-03 17:55:08] moo : huge % loss
[2017-01-03 17:55:20] sleger : eth wont have mining in 1 year
[2017-01-03 17:55:34] moo : exact;y
[2017-01-03 17:55:38] rapidtrades : the problem with that theory is it requires all of them to collude
[2017-01-03 17:55:47] moo : $ invested in mining = useless
[2017-01-03 17:55:51] moo : they dont want that
[2017-01-03 17:56:02] rapidtrades : that won't happen cos its much more profitable to go rouge
[2017-01-03 17:56:04] sleger : rapidtrades: there are only few large miners, and they talk to each other
[2017-01-03 17:56:30] rapidtrades : sleger: ok but let's say 3 out of 4 decide to dump on ETH, the one that doesn't ends up with $$$$
[2017-01-03 17:56:31] sleger : why do you think they are pumping etc ?
[2017-01-03 17:56:37] moo : china has huge mining farms... they want PoW to dominate marketcaps forever
[2017-01-03 17:56:51] rapidtrades : sleger: yeah that's a good point, never thought about that
[2017-01-03 17:56:58] rapidtrades : ETC was a weird selection
[2017-01-03 17:57:06] sleger : miners forced it
[2017-01-03 17:57:13] sleger : they forced huobi, polo
[2017-01-03 17:57:26] rapidtrades : u mean btcc?
[2017-01-03 17:57:39] rapidtrades : does huobi already have etc?
[2017-01-03 17:57:40] sleger : i think huobi announced they would integrate etc no ?
[2017-01-03 17:57:46] sleger : they said they will
[2017-01-03 17:57:50] rapidtrades : no that was btcc?
[2017-01-03 17:58:18] rapidtrades : former btc china
[2017-01-03 18:00:25] tommygunn : poor etc boobss
[2017-01-03 18:01:02] tommygunn : west wats tech and always will go tech, vc's and silicon valley
[2017-01-03 18:01:07] tommygunn : wants
[2017-01-03 18:01:24] tommygunn : etc is a buck 50
[2017-01-03 18:01:32] sleger : rapidtrades: you're right, btcc
[2017-01-03 18:06:35] Milkman : ETC dump
[2017-01-03 18:06:42] elmorte : hmm, China spot hasn't had this big of a premium since July
[2017-01-03 18:08:05] Milkman : 0kcoin market buy up to 7392 cny just now
[2017-01-03 18:08:47] sleger : what did i say...
[2017-01-03 18:09:34] tommygunn : china trying
[2017-01-03 18:11:22] sludge : Why is the funding rate so much lower this settlement time?
[2017-01-03 18:12:01] sleger : next one probably even negative
[2017-01-03 18:13:49] sludge : What market dynamics control the rate?
[2017-01-03 18:14:40] Milkman : so if i market buy / sell into a hidden wall i get the maker fee?
[2017-01-03 18:15:13] sleger : yes
[2017-01-03 18:17:16] BitMEX_Greg : sludge: Please take a read of the following documentation which helps explain the funding dynamics: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-01-03 18:33:47] justinlooking : Bless the Rekt,, O my soul
[2017-01-03 18:37:49] Milkman : cryptowatch charts stopped updating?
[2017-01-03 18:45:55] rapidtrades : sleger: his charts stopped updating