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[2017-01-03 07:40:08] imabeast : dont short the rally
[2017-01-03 07:40:12] imabeast : just saying
[2017-01-03 07:43:42] MikeHunt : 24hourz: i think the extra profit goes back to your balance
[2017-01-03 07:46:27] 24hourz : oh ok !!
[2017-01-03 07:46:35] 24hourz : thanks @MikeHunt
[2017-01-03 08:13:50] narnarfromnarnia : going for more rekts
[2017-01-03 08:15:38] MikeHunt : i would have thought a double bottom would save this
[2017-01-03 08:15:39] MikeHunt : hmm
[2017-01-03 08:15:59] narnarfromnarnia : its getting sketchy that's for sure
[2017-01-03 08:16:05] narnarfromnarnia : either money to be made or lost big
[2017-01-03 08:17:00] MikeHunt : im mostly shorting from top but trying to catch the bounces
[2017-01-03 08:18:45] narnarfromnarnia : first day i've been able to manage a 20% ROE win
[2017-01-03 08:18:51] narnarfromnarnia : i think i'll call it a night
[2017-01-03 08:22:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1019.12
[2017-01-03 08:24:27] gustavo7 : huh can't do alerts in the chart anymore?
[2017-01-03 08:28:23] MikeHunt : gustavo7: i use bitcoinwisdom for alerts, most reliable imo
[2017-01-03 08:34:44] rapidtrades : vol is back in the euro fellas
[2017-01-03 08:35:06] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: you mean just normal forex?
[2017-01-03 08:35:10] narnarfromnarnia : or btc/eur?
[2017-01-03 08:35:10] rapidtrades : maybe i can finally make some fx monies
[2017-01-03 08:35:21] narnarfromnarnia : ah
[2017-01-03 08:35:25] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: breaking down multiple bullish patterns
[2017-01-03 08:35:30] MikeHunt : bitanic might be sinking
[2017-01-03 08:35:58] rapidtrades : btce very bearish right now
[2017-01-03 08:37:01] narnarfromnarnia : im sure bulk of coins follow the same pattern right?
[2017-01-03 08:37:01] MikeHunt : looks like rekt is gonna tank it
[2017-01-03 08:37:02] MikeHunt : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNSQfEXCEAE5tlj.png
[2017-01-03 08:37:05] narnarfromnarnia : its just not leveraged
[2017-01-03 08:37:13] rapidtrades : index would be lower if okc wasn't pumping it
[2017-01-03 08:38:52] MikeHunt : pumps didnt save titanic but maybe they can save bitanic
[2017-01-03 08:41:40] narnarfromnarnia : i am gonna start calling it the rekt hunter
[2017-01-03 08:41:55] narnarfromnarnia : once it captures a good amount its time for reversal
[2017-01-03 08:42:01] narnarfromnarnia : we haven't seen enough yet
[2017-01-03 08:42:19] MikeHunt : i think we see h&s then back down
[2017-01-03 08:42:30] MikeHunt : to ~7.1k cny
[2017-01-03 08:44:10] micmix : I was drinking tea today and saw 'castrated bull' pattern in tea leaves. I think something will happen
[2017-01-03 08:44:43] micmix : I will leave it to your imagination what that patterns mean ;-)
[2017-01-03 08:44:54] micmix : *pattern
[2017-01-03 08:46:00] MikeHunt : micmix: do you get ur tea leaves from china?
[2017-01-03 08:46:05] MikeHunt : might actually be balls
[2017-01-03 08:50:01] MikeHunt : bull*
[2017-01-03 08:55:18] happy : wow
[2017-01-03 08:56:21] MikeHunt : there we go
[2017-01-03 08:56:28] MikeHunt : maybe anotehr bounce then back up to h&s
[2017-01-03 09:05:15] micmix : MikeHunt: yeah, it was actually Chinese white tea
[2017-01-03 09:05:51] micmix : so buy the dips ;-)
[2017-01-03 09:06:28] MikeHunt : micmix: lol
[2017-01-03 09:07:18] PARAFFIN : MikeHunt: what is h&s
[2017-01-03 09:07:26] PARAFFIN : good morning
[2017-01-03 09:08:45] brouk : head and shoulder, it is a shampoo brand
[2017-01-03 09:09:08] brouk : makes your hair strong and shiny
[2017-01-03 09:09:28] PARAFFIN : ahhh
[2017-01-03 09:09:29] MikeHunt : PARAFFIN: head & shoulders chart pattern
[2017-01-03 09:09:34] PARAFFIN : ok
[2017-01-03 09:09:47] PARAFFIN : and w is wedge
[2017-01-03 09:09:55] PARAFFIN : thank you
[2017-01-03 09:10:20] MikeHunt : np
[2017-01-03 09:10:24] MikeHunt : depends if it can hold that far
[2017-01-03 09:10:28] MikeHunt : looks real weak atm
[2017-01-03 09:11:21] rowrow : no particular reason this site got delisted from coinmarket cap is there? assume fee schedule hasn't changed or anything
[2017-01-03 09:11:38] rowrow : *moved to the bottom section i mean where it isn't counted
[2017-01-03 09:13:54] PARAFFIN : looks juicy
[2017-01-03 09:14:11] micmix : PARAFFIN: h&s pattern continues as knees & toes when it goes down really quickly. this video explains everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZanHgPprl-0
[2017-01-03 09:15:22] MikeHunt : micmix: ;)
[2017-01-03 09:15:24] rustiv : learn trading by watching songs for kids
[2017-01-03 09:15:51] MikeHunt : h&s might just end this all together though, hope not, i want to see 7.1k not 6k or less
[2017-01-03 09:17:49] brouk : maybe we will see bear market through january and bull market towards ATH through rebruary
[2017-01-03 09:18:08] brouk : *february
[2017-01-03 09:18:50] brouk : that would form cup and handle on long term view
[2017-01-03 09:18:55] brouk : what do you guys think?
[2017-01-03 09:20:07] immackay : cancer
[2017-01-03 09:20:18] immackay : that's what I think
[2017-01-03 09:20:24] immackay : @rapidtrades are you short yet
[2017-01-03 09:21:12] PARAFFIN : micmix: haha i totally forgot this song lol cute
[2017-01-03 09:21:48] laisee : We'll be right back TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE We will be back online shortly. Sorry for the inconvenience. Please monitor bitfinex.statuspage.io for updates. support@bitfinex.com
[2017-01-03 09:22:16] brouk : bitfinex hacked again?
[2017-01-03 09:22:25] MikeHunt : All Systems Operational
[2017-01-03 09:22:27] MikeHunt : ?
[2017-01-03 09:22:32] laisee : and its back, for now
[2017-01-03 09:24:24] PARAFFIN : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnP_6D4lrrw
[2017-01-03 09:25:19] rowrow : if it's bitcoin's birthday, and i always manage to lose money on my own birthday, will i lose money on bitcoin's birthday?
[2017-01-03 09:26:53] MikeHunt : rowrow: are you shorting?
[2017-01-03 09:27:17] rowrow : overall long
[2017-01-03 09:27:53] MikeHunt : rowrow: and currently?
[2017-01-03 09:28:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 6 @ 0.015682
[2017-01-03 09:28:37] rowrow : sum of longs and shorts = long, 90% chance will remain that way
[2017-01-03 09:29:03] MikeHunt : prob correct to 7k if it dont collapse first
[2017-01-03 09:30:53] rowrow : 5% drop would be a bit rough when leveraged, but at the end of the day gotta wait and see
[2017-01-03 09:31:40] rowrow : decided to sleep instead of throw down some shorts when the price was 1.5% higher, missed out
[2017-01-03 09:35:05] MikeHunt : rowrow: dont worry, if its gonna retrace it should be by end of day
[2017-01-03 09:35:29] MikeHunt : at least ull be able to short a lot higher than the fomos could ever dream of ;)
[2017-01-03 09:35:51] rullwull : oil is pumping, getting more profitable than bitcoin
[2017-01-03 09:36:15] rowrow : yeah it's all good, my leverage isn't too high anyway compared to my overall holdings
[2017-01-03 09:36:44] laisee : predicting Oil production boom once Trump signs deal with Iran
[2017-01-03 09:36:59] MikeHunt : laisee: what if he blows them up instead?
[2017-01-03 09:37:09] laisee : why would he?
[2017-01-03 09:37:11] MikeHunt : goes boom literally?
[2017-01-03 09:37:32] MikeHunt : laisee: hes seems reasonable so prob wont
[2017-01-03 09:37:55] laisee : they need moar hotels and Oil production - he will do some deals.
[2017-01-03 09:38:07] MikeHunt : iran is a natural ally of US
[2017-01-03 09:38:14] MikeHunt : like vietnam could have been in the early days
[2017-01-03 09:38:20] laisee : +1 MikeHunt
[2017-01-03 09:38:31] MikeHunt : iran even when offered russian airplanes still wants western stuff
[2017-01-03 09:38:45] laisee : they're not stupid.
[2017-01-03 09:39:22] MikeHunt : only issue is israel, they dont seem to want to leave em alone
[2017-01-03 09:40:07] laisee : Israel can team up to fight Isis with Iran & USA. Too bad for Saudis.
[2017-01-03 09:40:52] MikeHunt : may just end up that way, Saudi's & Co. vs Israel/Iran/US etc.
[2017-01-03 09:41:24] MikeHunt : saudis going bankrupt and ISIS could actually take over if the monarchy falls
[2017-01-03 09:41:48] MikeHunt : so i guess its not rly vs saudis but wahhabism in general
[2017-01-03 09:41:48] laisee : I'll go with the Isranians. Saudi is in trouble.
[2017-01-03 09:42:11] MikeHunt : they cant even beat a flip flop army
[2017-01-03 09:42:19] MikeHunt : in yemen
[2017-01-03 09:42:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15 @ 1019.91
[2017-01-03 09:42:49] laisee : agree. Trump may surprise us all with the deals he does.
[2017-01-03 09:47:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 500 @ 7598.3
[2017-01-03 09:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 13227 @ 1077.43
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 491 @ 1018.14
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3 @ 1017.61 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2017-01-03 09:51:36] narnarfromnarnia : why is there a bid at 1017
[2017-01-03 09:51:38] narnarfromnarnia : not getting hit
[2017-01-03 09:52:10] divinci : updating is way off today on BitMex
[2017-01-03 09:52:42] gustavo7 : ye order book was wrong for me to, just F5'd
[2017-01-03 09:53:22] narnarfromnarnia : fuck man that's so messed up
[2017-01-03 09:53:40] narnarfromnarnia : order book glitched
[2017-01-03 09:53:43] narnarfromnarnia : wtf
[2017-01-03 09:55:26] MikeHunt : XMR gonna survive btc correction?
[2017-01-03 09:55:29] narnarfromnarnia : where is sys admin?
[2017-01-03 09:55:30] narnarfromnarnia : support
[2017-01-03 09:55:42] narnarfromnarnia : our screen freezes up and show asks
[2017-01-03 09:55:45] narnarfromnarnia : its really not cool
[2017-01-03 09:56:29] wurstgelee : gustavo7: @divinci @narnarfromnarnia had the same
[2017-01-03 09:56:34] wurstgelee : had to f5 to fix it
[2017-01-03 09:56:43] narnarfromnarnia : i refreshed but that is so jacked man
[2017-01-03 09:56:45] wurstgelee : sam? any other bitmex admin?
[2017-01-03 09:56:46] narnarfromnarnia : completely
[2017-01-03 09:57:11] narnarfromnarnia : how do you trade price action with a glitchy system?
[2017-01-03 10:00:23] brouk : everything looks fine on my side
[2017-01-03 10:00:37] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: what browser?
[2017-01-03 10:00:39] narnarfromnarnia : mine froze
[2017-01-03 10:00:40] narnarfromnarnia : chrome
[2017-01-03 10:00:49] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: check cpu usage
[2017-01-03 10:00:52] narnarfromnarnia : showed exact same order book but recent trades all chacked
[2017-01-03 10:00:55] narnarfromnarnia : jacked
[2017-01-03 10:00:59] narnarfromnarnia : cpu usage is low
[2017-01-03 10:01:11] narnarfromnarnia : mb pro too super good cpu
[2017-01-03 10:02:38] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: try running in incognito with no plugins
[2017-01-03 10:02:43] MikeHunt : see if it works better
[2017-01-03 10:03:06] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: I've been getting the same problem as you for the last few day
[2017-01-03 10:03:24] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: in the advanced settings check whether hardware acceleration is enabled
[2017-01-03 10:03:24] immackay : bitmex freezing, orderbook freezing, things freezing when trying to place a trade
[2017-01-03 10:03:38] narnarfromnarnia : ok thanks
[2017-01-03 10:03:43] immackay : also on chrome on mb pro
[2017-01-03 10:03:43] narnarfromnarnia : but that's still totally jacked
[2017-01-03 10:03:49] brouk : im using safari on mb pro without glitches
[2017-01-03 10:03:57] rapidtrades : immackay: yeah froze again even without placing trades
[2017-01-03 10:04:20] immackay : rapidtrades: yeah, my orderbook keeps freezing
[2017-01-03 10:04:49] rapidtrades : everything freezes for me , even chat
[2017-01-03 10:05:21] immackay : chat freezes sometimes for me
[2017-01-03 10:05:35] immackay : only thing that doesn't freeze usually is the chart and that's a datastream from tradingview
[2017-01-03 10:05:52] immackay : (mind you the chart doesn't work at all on mobile bitmex)
[2017-01-03 10:07:30] immackay : anyways I'll leave you guys to it
[2017-01-03 10:07:35] immackay : enjoy the crash
[2017-01-03 10:07:38] immackay : bedtime for me
[2017-01-03 10:12:18] BitMEX_Arthur : immackay: Do you get a Disconnect message from BitMEX in your browser window when the orderbook freezes?
[2017-01-03 10:13:23] narnarfromnarnia : no messge just showing orderbook
[2017-01-03 10:13:29] narnarfromnarnia : as is but recent trades accurate
[2017-01-03 10:13:33] narnarfromnarnia : order book frozen
[2017-01-03 10:13:44] narnarfromnarnia : chrome no plugins or anything running
[2017-01-03 10:14:59] BitMEX_Arthur : narnarfromnarnia: Ok thanks, I will pass this onto Sam
[2017-01-03 10:15:41] narnarfromnarnia : showed same ask wall at 1017 and went clear down to 1011 or so
[2017-01-03 10:32:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2000 @ 1077.59
[2017-01-03 10:43:05] nOgAnOo : Hey friends
[2017-01-03 10:43:09] nOgAnOo : I stopped in to say high
[2017-01-03 10:43:22] nOgAnOo : Arthur can you add steem please
[2017-01-03 10:44:09] nOgAnOo : The volume is sure to increase soon with new roadmap being released and faster power downs
[2017-01-03 10:44:28] BitMEX_Wally : nOgAnOo: Hello. In order to add Steem the volume of the spot market needs to be at least $1,000,000
[2017-01-03 10:44:30] nOgAnOo : 20x market would be nice.
[2017-01-03 10:44:54] nOgAnOo : Get rid of that Ripple crap and add Steem in it's place. :)
[2017-01-03 10:45:18] nOgAnOo : I'm tired of having to cash out my steem in bittrex before I transfer here.
[2017-01-03 10:52:56] mariomarco : #pampit
[2017-01-03 11:23:11] Apocalyptic : "I stopped in to say high" nOgAnOo that was revealing
[2017-01-03 11:25:00] Apocalyptic : ES is mooning again
[2017-01-03 11:42:52] arbitrage001 : whats up with okc price distorting the index
[2017-01-03 11:46:31] narnarfromnarnia : so if we just have a 1 contract short open we get paid
[2017-01-03 11:47:14] mariomarco : narnarfromnarnia: yes funding percent * margin * contract value
[2017-01-03 11:47:34] mariomarco : fund. percent X margin X contract
[2017-01-03 11:47:41] narnarfromnarnia : i see
[2017-01-03 11:47:49] mariomarco : so opening 1 gets you nothing
[2017-01-03 11:47:55] narnarfromnarnia : so its not really worth it then unless i have a huge contract open
[2017-01-03 11:48:01] mariomarco : narnarfromnarnia: yes
[2017-01-03 11:48:06] narnarfromnarnia : but price could dip here due to that
[2017-01-03 11:48:33] mariomarco : or not rise :D until its over
[2017-01-03 11:48:34] mariomarco : yes
[2017-01-03 11:48:56] narnarfromnarnia : just need some momentum either way
[2017-01-03 11:49:01] narnarfromnarnia : no reason to play this sideways stuff
[2017-01-03 11:49:12] narnarfromnarnia : the order book glitching is also a big concern here
[2017-01-03 11:49:19] narnarfromnarnia : and the liquidity and crazy wicks
[2017-01-03 11:51:51] mariomarco : what glitchign? @narnarfromnarnia
[2017-01-03 11:52:04] narnarfromnarnia : when we last dipped down to about 1011
[2017-01-03 11:52:13] narnarfromnarnia : i had asks still showing 25k at 1017
[2017-01-03 11:52:16] narnarfromnarnia : 1-18
[2017-01-03 11:52:18] narnarfromnarnia : 1018*
[2017-01-03 11:52:26] narnarfromnarnia : yet trades going below that
[2017-01-03 11:52:39] narnarfromnarnia : refreshed and it was fine but that's total sketch
[2017-01-03 11:52:40] mariomarco : hmm
[2017-01-03 11:52:55] narnarfromnarnia : i should get trade fees at least reimbursed
[2017-01-03 11:52:57] thomaskikansha : seems not smart to short swap right now
[2017-01-03 11:53:06] narnarfromnarnia : why do you say that?
[2017-01-03 11:53:11] mariomarco : it happened to me once, because i tabbed away from browser and it sort of stuck
[2017-01-03 11:53:50] narnarfromnarnia : yeah that happened to me as well
[2017-01-03 11:53:52] narnarfromnarnia : checking xmr price
[2017-01-03 11:54:05] narnarfromnarnia : also just after my trade it went for a liquidation attempt
[2017-01-03 11:54:14] narnarfromnarnia : its really sketch to be honest
[2017-01-03 12:03:55] rowrow : someone sold into me 2 seconds after the funding ended. *shrug* free money, can't complain
[2017-01-03 12:06:51] foobar : Im just watching the youtube lessons on arbitrage strategies
[2017-01-03 12:07:07] foobar : trying to figure out, where are the XBU futures sold?
[2017-01-03 12:07:23] rowrow : xbu?
[2017-01-03 12:09:18] foobar : inverse futures
[2017-01-03 12:09:55] foobar : xbth17 is quanto right?
[2017-01-03 12:10:22] elmorte : XBU was a hedging instrument if I'm not mistaken..discontinued a while ago
[2017-01-03 12:11:38] arbitrage001 : elmorte: fee for XBU is too high
[2017-01-03 12:11:43] foobar : so are you guys typically doing arbitrage trades or just speculation?
[2017-01-03 12:12:34] elmorte : arbitrage001: never used it, that that we had daily quantos
[2017-01-03 12:12:36] arbitrage001 : foobar: what do you think
[2017-01-03 12:12:41] rowrow : kind of a mix
[2017-01-03 12:12:51] elmorte : foobar: depends if you want to gamble or not
[2017-01-03 12:13:05] rowrow : gambling is always good
[2017-01-03 12:13:16] foobar : yea, when i joined this site a few days ago i started instinctively gambling immediately
[2017-01-03 12:13:18] foobar : lost my shirt :)
[2017-01-03 12:13:25] foobar : i think it is time to start trading a bit smarter now
[2017-01-03 12:13:26] foobar : lol
[2017-01-03 12:13:51] Kalman : foobar: you may start with reading first https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTH17
[2017-01-03 12:14:21] foobar : i have been watching the bitmex ceo's youtube videos on how to do arbitrage
[2017-01-03 12:14:31] foobar : but it seems they are a bit dated since not all of the instruments are still valid
[2017-01-03 12:14:41] foobar : (videos are only 11 months old)
[2017-01-03 12:14:45] elmorte : foobar: yeah, those are from ages ago
[2017-01-03 12:14:59] elmorte : Trying reading his Crypto Digest weekly mails.
[2017-01-03 12:15:05] elmorte : Lots of good strategies in there
[2017-01-03 12:16:51] foobar : ok
[2017-01-03 12:17:06] foobar : are those available on the blog?
[2017-01-03 12:19:27] Kalman : foobar: why dont you pay an advisor ?!
[2017-01-03 12:19:55] foobar : they have those?
[2017-01-03 12:20:00] foobar : where do you find them?
[2017-01-03 12:20:31] foobar : i was interested in learning this stuff myself, but would be down with an advisor in the interim
[2017-01-03 12:20:36] BitMEX_Wally : There is a recent YouTUbe video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehDfHTa8Sg
[2017-01-03 12:20:36] Kalman : just send the btc here : 3BMEXP2jsZpgMe7Xsoh9jQ49MbDSx57cqA
[2017-01-03 12:21:20] Kalman : afterwards you can focus on what you really can!!
[2017-01-03 12:21:23] BitMEX_Wally : The articles from the weekly Crypto Trader Digest email get put on the blog after a day or so
[2017-01-03 12:23:39] Kalman : foobar: left is only to tell me what you return objective is
[2017-01-03 12:24:45] foobar : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, i will check that one out
[2017-01-03 12:35:02] rms : why look at that, the pump starts exactly when the first US wires clear at 7:30am on january 3rd
[2017-01-03 12:35:17] weather b0y4 : rms, i just opened a large long =)
[2017-01-03 12:35:23] weather b0y4 : lets hope this is as good as we think...
[2017-01-03 12:35:29] rms : happy bitcoin everyone
[2017-01-03 12:37:15] weather b0y4 : buy support looks good on almost all exchanges
[2017-01-03 12:37:39] weather b0y4 : kraken 1 euro from all time highs
[2017-01-03 12:37:44] weather b0y4 : shoud be good day =)
[2017-01-03 12:41:20] rowrow : walk away for 2 mins and price goes up $5
[2017-01-03 12:42:40] rms : it's cool, just buy more
[2017-01-03 12:42:48] rms : buy high, sell higher
[2017-01-03 12:44:01] rowrow : yeah, sounds about where bitcoin is at right now
[2017-01-03 12:45:21] rowrow : we keep getting stuck at the 1030 range past day or two
[2017-01-03 12:45:42] rms : more wires clear at 8AM and 9AM
[2017-01-03 12:45:43] narnarfromnarnia : freezing up again
[2017-01-03 12:45:44] narnarfromnarnia : :(
[2017-01-03 12:45:52] rms : if we don't break out of the range at 9AM we're fucked for a week or so
[2017-01-03 12:45:59] brouk : looking at 12 hour this should drop down
[2017-01-03 12:47:12] rowrow : anyone know how much more depth the chinese order books tend to have? obviously far more volume but hyper inflated without fees
[2017-01-03 12:47:14] foobar : i haven't really analyzed much data, but seeing bitmex price at a discount to the kaiko quote is something i haven't seen before
[2017-01-03 12:47:37] foobar : in the past couple days
[2017-01-03 12:47:48] rms : it happens whenever shorts get paid a lot
[2017-01-03 12:48:19] rowrow : it's probably above like 80% of the time, below 20%, something like that from what i've seen
[2017-01-03 12:49:10] rowrow : occasionally funding for longs will go negative
[2017-01-03 12:49:59] brouk : 1m on okc looks bloody as fk
[2017-01-03 12:50:01] brouk : lol
[2017-01-03 12:50:29] foobar : rowrow: wow, so you can get paid out on long
[2017-01-03 12:50:32] rms : anyone know how the index price for xbtcny is weighted?
[2017-01-03 12:50:32] foobar : that is amazing
[2017-01-03 12:51:15] brouk : foobar: yeah you can do that in 15 hours if the predicted rate will keep at -0.15%
[2017-01-03 12:51:27] rowrow : yeah, but average is probably like .1% or a little more for the shorters
[2017-01-03 12:52:12] rowrow : brouk: can you check okc order books without making an account?
[2017-01-03 12:52:29] brouk : rowrow: yes
[2017-01-03 12:53:37] brouk : rowrow: its public data, the depth is shown on cryptowat.ch for example
[2017-01-03 12:54:07] rowrow : brouk: thanks, yeah some of the chinese order books are pretty crazy to follow, like 5 trades a second
[2017-01-03 12:58:46] rapidtrades : hi
[2017-01-03 12:59:42] rms : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38495804
[2017-01-03 13:00:34] rapidtrades : China's currency, the renminbi, fell about 7% in value last year. Bitcoin rose 125% in value last year
[2017-01-03 13:01:00] rapidtrades : clear correlation right there
[2017-01-03 13:02:27] rapidtrades : i was reading bitcoin markets earlier and its crazy how many ppl expect 5k to 10k coins
[2017-01-03 13:02:54] rapidtrades : we're now even more retard then usual
[2017-01-03 13:03:25] Apocalyptic : crazy expectations, but this is bitcoin rapid
[2017-01-03 13:03:29] brouk : "There are currently about 15 million Bitcoins in existence."
[2017-01-03 13:03:37] brouk : aren't there 16 million already?
[2017-01-03 13:04:41] Apocalyptic : brouk: theoretically yes, but about 1M is believed to be held in satoshi's adresses, and not spendable
[2017-01-03 13:06:33] brouk : that is "lost" bitcoins?
[2017-01-03 13:07:03] Apocalyptic : brouk: it is generally treated as such, yes
[2017-01-03 13:08:11] rapidtrades : didnt we do 1 hard fork since creation? would that render them unspendable
[2017-01-03 13:09:19] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: there are not technically unspendable, it's just that no one believes he still has the keys to them or that he will be willing to spend them
[2017-01-03 13:09:45] Apocalyptic : and there was no hard fork afaik
[2017-01-03 13:10:08] rapidtrades : there was 1
[2017-01-03 13:10:14] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: when ?
[2017-01-03 13:10:34] rapidtrades : 2011? when 1 billion btc were created
[2017-01-03 13:10:35] brouk : is it possible that someday in the future we will be able to brute force the lost private keys for these bitcoins?
[2017-01-03 13:10:51] mariomarco : brouk: nope
[2017-01-03 13:10:57] brouk : mariomarco: why not?
[2017-01-03 13:10:58] rms : http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/36090/has-a-hard-fork-ever-occurred
[2017-01-03 13:11:14] mariomarco : brouk: btc is quantum computer resistant
[2017-01-03 13:11:25] mariomarco : if you could brute force a lost account you could brute any account
[2017-01-03 13:11:31] mariomarco : so yeah :D
[2017-01-03 13:11:43] mariomarco : quantum processor rather
[2017-01-03 13:11:50] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident this ?
[2017-01-03 13:11:58] rullwull : keep in mind that over 20% of bitcoins are lost, people simply loose their private keys
[2017-01-03 13:12:17] Apocalyptic : or their HD crashes and no backup
[2017-01-03 13:13:34] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: yes
[2017-01-03 13:16:19] Apocalyptic : I guess you can call it a fork
[2017-01-03 13:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60 @ 1081.07
[2017-01-03 13:18:38] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: so his coins are gone?
[2017-01-03 13:19:35] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: read what I said above
[2017-01-03 13:20:36] Apocalyptic : people just think that if he could/wanted to move them, he would have done so by now
[2017-01-03 13:21:29] tommygunn : Good Morning NA, good night china
[2017-01-03 13:23:15] tommygunn : looks like we are still in da chop
[2017-01-03 13:24:28] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: maybe he never needed them until now?
[2017-01-03 13:27:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60000 @ 1076.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-03 13:32:27] Rado2 : rapidtrades: who is that rapidtrades?
[2017-01-03 13:32:57] rapidtrades : Satoshi
[2017-01-03 13:33:15] arbitrage001 : Satoshi is a god
[2017-01-03 13:33:25] arbitrage001 : he doesn't need money
[2017-01-03 13:35:01] BTCDJS : Lol
[2017-01-03 13:35:10] mariomarco : rapidtrades: can you help me out with somethign?
[2017-01-03 13:35:27] rowrow : he's waiting for the market cap to hit 1t then dump it all down to 1b and laugh at people
[2017-01-03 13:35:35] BTCDJS : No he is not a god. Don't start spreading fairy tails to noobs
[2017-01-03 13:36:12] BTCDJS : thats how religions start
[2017-01-03 13:36:42] BTCDJS : We don't need another cult
[2017-01-03 13:37:58] rapidtrades : http://www.christianitytoday.com/satoshi-jesus-himself
[2017-01-03 13:38:15] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: the link above says ur WRONG
[2017-01-03 13:39:14] BTCDJS : Error page. Cannot find what you're looking for
[2017-01-03 13:39:46] BTCDJS : So ner ner ner ner ner
[2017-01-03 13:40:12] rapidtrades : http://news.forexlive.com/!/gm-motors-in-the-trump-firing-line-20170103
[2017-01-03 13:40:15] rapidtrades : try that one ^
[2017-01-03 13:40:54] BTCDJS : Wat?
[2017-01-03 13:41:05] BTCDJS : You trying to hack me?
[2017-01-03 13:41:13] BTCDJS : What is this shit?
[2017-01-03 13:41:54] mutato : Bitcoin is dead, Satoshi is the drowned god
[2017-01-03 13:41:58] Apocalyptic : rapid is the most feared hacker in the trollbox, don't just trust his links
[2017-01-03 13:41:59] mutato : What Is Dead May Never Die
[2017-01-03 13:45:33] laisee : Satoshi is code, now and forever
[2017-01-03 13:46:12] BTCDJS : OMG a cult is starting
[2017-01-03 13:46:27] laisee : blasphemy!
[2017-01-03 13:46:40] laisee : cast out the unbelievers ...
[2017-01-03 13:47:00] narnarfromnarnia : why can't we see the current mark price?
[2017-01-03 13:47:09] narnarfromnarnia : even without a position open we should be able to see that no?
[2017-01-03 13:47:28] BTCDJS : Bow down to the steem god. His deciple was here preaching yesterday
[2017-01-03 13:47:42] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: lol
[2017-01-03 13:47:54] BTCDJS : he will and should defeat the bitcoin god apparently
[2017-01-03 13:47:58] Apocalyptic : I wonder why he's pumpim that alt
[2017-01-03 13:48:29] BTCDJS : he gets 200 a week and he wants to sell them to people
[2017-01-03 13:48:38] BTCDJS : or something like that
[2017-01-03 13:48:44] laisee : pimpimg to an audience of few humdred traders ... wasted effort
[2017-01-03 13:48:45] Apocalyptic : finex below bearstamp
[2017-01-03 13:48:49] rapidtrades : narnarfromnarnia: mark proce is right there in middle, hover over shit
[2017-01-03 13:48:52] BTCDJS : Wasn't paying too much attention
[2017-01-03 13:49:10] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ykva43lbj4xw218/Screenshot%202017-01-03%2007.49.07.png?dl=0
[2017-01-03 13:49:13] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades:
[2017-01-03 13:49:25] laisee : people shouldnt trade their rent money hi on c.ra.ck
[2017-01-03 13:50:18] rms : ok futures go!
[2017-01-03 13:50:40] BTCDJS : Oh wait this part I do remember. He doesn't trade it he only sells it-his words
[2017-01-03 13:51:08] elmorte : rms: what contract did you make most of that bounty on?
[2017-01-03 13:51:56] rms : split up between the different bitcoin contracts
[2017-01-03 13:52:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 5 @ 0.008430
[2017-01-03 13:53:26] elmorte : rms: nice
[2017-01-03 13:53:40] elmorte : totally vague, but still nice
[2017-01-03 13:54:16] rms : swaps, 2016 futures, 2017 futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:20] rms : no yuan futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:31] rms : but i realized that was dumb and now i have yuan futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:55] rms : always long, never short on bitcoin
[2017-01-03 13:55:10] elmorte : Cool, nice one, cheers
[2017-01-03 13:56:43] rapidtrades : cheers!
[2017-01-03 13:57:03] rapidtrades : TO THE DEATH OF BITCOIN
[2017-01-03 13:57:09] dannybreal : cmon guys help the market throw i a mil someone pls
[2017-01-03 14:00:03] BTCDJS : dannybreal: close to margin call?
[2017-01-03 14:01:12] dannybreal : nope, market needs it to bounce
[2017-01-03 14:01:52] BTCDJS : Close long but back a triple digits ?
[2017-01-03 14:02:51] BTCDJS : Buy* at*
[2017-01-03 14:03:00] BTCDJS : stupid phone
[2017-01-03 14:05:40] dannybreal : :D
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : I have found an interesting thing. orderQty > cumQty in my testnet execution message: {"table":"execution","action":"insert","data":[{"execID":"902166f9-c9f8-f0d3-07be-1f7a849045fe","orderID":"1167ab24-9d1c-d8ac-5ffb-47798b8f9f0f","clOrdID":"O1483364453783_39432","clOrdLinkID":"","account":1087,"symbol":"XBTUSD","side":"Sell","lastQty":2001,"lastPx":1012.88,"underlyingLastPx":null,"lastMkt":"XBME","lastLiquidityInd":"AddedLiquidity
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : ","simpleOrderQty":null,"orderQty":2000,"price":1012.88,"displayQty":null,"stopPx":null,"pegOffsetValue":null,"pegPriceType":"","currency":"USD","settlCurrency":"XBt","execType":"Trade","ordType":"Limit","timeInForce":"GoodTillCancel","execInst":"ParticipateDoNotInitiate","contingencyType":"","exDestination":"XBME","ordStatus":"Filled","triggered":"","workingIndicator":false,"ordRejReason":"","simpleLeavesQty":0,"leavesQty":0,"
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : simpleCumQty":1.97554728,"cumQty":2001,"avgPx":1012.88,"commission":-0.00025,"tradePublishIndicator":"PublishTrade","multiLegReportingType":"SingleSecurity","text":"Submitted via API.","trdMatchID":"1ddefa23-1895-90a1-8164-5b5843d776c8","execCost":197554728,"execComm":-49389,"homeNotional":-1.97554728,"foreignNotional":2001,"transactTime":"2017-01-02T13:41:50.353Z","timestamp":"2017-01-02T13:41:50.353Z"}]}
[2017-01-03 14:07:47] martyix : "orderQty":2000 and "cumQty":2001 and "lastQty":2001
[2017-01-03 14:07:58] Rado : martyix: testnet has some code that is "tested"
[2017-01-03 14:08:02] Rado : report it to BitMEX
[2017-01-03 14:08:42] martyix : Rado: well, bitmex folks read it here
[2017-01-03 14:08:43] BitMEX_Wally : martyix: Thanks, I will investigate
[2017-01-03 14:09:04] martyix : muchas gracias :)
[2017-01-03 14:09:49] Rado2 : martyix: well you need to say one of the magic words
[2017-01-03 14:09:56] Rado2 : support, BitMEX etc
[2017-01-03 14:10:22] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: what are the words you have alerts on?
[2017-01-03 14:10:27] martyix : I see. Thanks. I'll report it correctly next time.
[2017-01-03 14:10:56] BitMEX_Wally : Rado2: There are no keywords, we just keep an eye on the trollbox
[2017-01-03 14:10:59] Rado2 : martyix: also the best way to report something is to send an email to support@bitmex.com
[2017-01-03 14:11:10] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2017-01-03 14:11:32] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: I appreciate the quick response to my requests
[2017-01-03 14:11:36] mariomarco : BitMEX_Wally: how long can a position stay open on a perpetual swap?
[2017-01-03 14:11:47] Rado2 : mariomarco: forever
[2017-01-03 14:11:47] sleger : only until perpetuity
[2017-01-03 14:11:52] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2017-01-03 14:12:04] Rado2 : sleger: how was your flight
[2017-01-03 14:12:16] mariomarco : so potentially people that opened long at let say 800 can still have it open?
[2017-01-03 14:12:16] sleger : usual, fine, short
[2017-01-03 14:12:25] Rado2 : nice
[2017-01-03 14:13:53] Rado2 : sleger: after a few tweaks my bot performing much better
[2017-01-03 14:13:55] BitMEX_Wally : Rado2: Thanks for reporting that, it was due to a special order being tested in testnet that traded against your limit order. I will fix that rounding issue
[2017-01-03 14:14:28] sleger : Rado2: isnt it too early to say ?
[2017-01-03 14:14:34] Rado2 : a lot more work to do on dynamic spread
[2017-01-03 14:14:57] Rado2 : sleger: it is early, but happy with what I see so far
[2017-01-03 14:15:07] Rado2 : handled a few big drops very nice
[2017-01-03 14:15:19] sleger : what size are you quoting now ?
[2017-01-03 14:15:33] Rado2 : the big problem I need to solve now is I am leavign money on the table by not adjusting spread
[2017-01-03 14:15:53] Rado2 : I am still at 500, but thinking of changing to 1000
[2017-01-03 14:16:03] sleger : most bots here are coded to only improve best bid/ask by minimal increment
[2017-01-03 14:17:06] Rado2 : I know
[2017-01-03 14:17:28] Rado2 : I have one feature that is totally my own :-)
[2017-01-03 14:17:43] Rado2 : maybe other has a similar thing, not really sure
[2017-01-03 14:17:49] rapidtrades : sleger: ur russian gf amost died https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGCO6bOOKpo
[2017-01-03 14:18:36] Rado2 : rapidtrades: ha ha
[2017-01-03 14:21:19] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: are bots on testnet trying to outsmart each other or there are some "test" trades by users?
[2017-01-03 14:21:55] Rado2 : the only thing I can really test is that the code doesn't have errors there
[2017-01-03 14:23:00] Rado2 : It will be great if there is a simulated orders place based on some algo
[2017-01-03 14:26:09] Rado : chop chop till you drop
[2017-01-03 14:26:24] Rado : need another push higher to get some shorts
[2017-01-03 14:26:50] MikeHunt : is this why they call it a woodchipper?
[2017-01-03 14:28:16] Rado2 : MikeHunt: http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2017-01-03 14:29:11] Wigga : 多仓被爆: 卖出
[2017-01-03 14:32:53] Naloxone : I feel like the rekt train will arrive soon
[2017-01-03 14:35:12] zach719 : buy the dip?
[2017-01-03 14:36:35] cryptomad : Bitmex support..???
[2017-01-03 14:36:45] cryptomad : Someone here...??
[2017-01-03 14:36:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150 @ 1071.90
[2017-01-03 14:37:30] moo : China desperation pump...
[2017-01-03 14:41:45] BitMEX_Wally : cryptomad: Hello
[2017-01-03 14:45:02] narnarfromnarnia : why are longs being liquidated when the trend is up?
[2017-01-03 14:45:41] exo : really high leverage probs
[2017-01-03 14:45:46] exo : and they bought at top
[2017-01-03 14:46:10] narnarfromnarnia : i see
[2017-01-03 14:46:41] laisee : price dipped to 1071
[2017-01-03 14:47:54] rowrow : you ain't really livin' if you don't use 100x leverage
[2017-01-03 14:50:30] zach719 : bitmex why u dumpin?
[2017-01-03 14:51:04] Apocalyptic : zach719: gotta dump one day
[2017-01-03 14:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 190 @ 0.001498
[2017-01-03 14:55:01] BTCDJS : Rado2: what do you think about haasbot? Any good?
[2017-01-03 14:55:23] Rado2 : BTCDJS: haven't tried that one
[2017-01-03 14:56:06] BTCDJS : Rado2: coindesk rated it 4.5/5
[2017-01-03 14:56:17] cryptomad : BitMEX_Wally: If made a long with 10btc's my profit was of $2 per BTC..Why my PNL is coming in minus (-)
[2017-01-03 14:56:17] BTCDJS : but I've never us d a bot
[2017-01-03 14:56:48] BTCDJS : thinking about it. Is it difficult for non coders? @Rado2
[2017-01-03 14:57:05] Rado2 : yes
[2017-01-03 14:57:06] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Have you closed your position yet?
[2017-01-03 14:57:17] cryptomad : Yes
[2017-01-03 14:57:20] cryptomad : it is closed.
[2017-01-03 14:57:46] BTCDJS : ?
[2017-01-03 14:57:52] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Take a look at your Trade History: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-01-03 14:58:09] BitMEX_Greg : You will be able to decode what was going on with your account. Take notice of any fees or funding paid
[2017-01-03 14:58:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 3 @ 0.008700
[2017-01-03 14:59:00] cryptomad : http://prntscr.com/dr0p84
[2017-01-03 14:59:32] cryptomad : i told you if i took a profit of $20 what funding rate will be applied on it..??
[2017-01-03 15:00:27] cryptomad : BitMEX_Greg: http://prntscr.com/dr0p84 i told you if i took a profit of $20 what funding rate will be applied on it..??
[2017-01-03 15:00:34] tommygunn : REKT:
[2017-01-03 15:00:54] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: hi I am looking at my trading history it says fee pain in negative and green does that mean I earned a credit?
[2017-01-03 15:01:06] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: You said $2 per Bitcoin above. Have you looked into your trading history yet?
[2017-01-03 15:01:12] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Greg: fee paid
[2017-01-03 15:01:25] BitMEX_Greg : alejandromasari: Yes, a negative fee means you are receiving that amount
[2017-01-03 15:01:27] cryptomad : I did..!!
[2017-01-03 15:01:38] cryptomad : Yeahhh..
[2017-01-03 15:01:51] cryptomad : How log does it takes..??
[2017-01-03 15:02:03] cryptomad : BitMEX_Greg: Yeahhh.. How log does it takes..??
[2017-01-03 15:02:05] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: How long does what take?
[2017-01-03 15:02:57] cryptomad : @BitMEX_Greg For that Unrealised PNL..??
[2017-01-03 15:04:01] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: The Realised PNL number you see is your life to date PNL on the contract. You may have made losses before
[2017-01-03 15:04:22] BitMEX_Greg : When you close a position on your unrealised PNL, it gets converted into realised PNL
[2017-01-03 15:05:58] cryptomad : BitMEX_Greg: Dude..There is no loos..I told you..$2 for each BTC order was of 8btc.. $16.. how it can be in minus(-) What is fee on it..100%...???
[2017-01-03 15:06:09] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Your transaction history (https://www.bitmex.com/app/wallet) combined with your Trade History (https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory) will give you an idea of your trading
[2017-01-03 15:07:12] cryptomad : Unrealised PNL is what..?? pending amount to be paid..??
[2017-01-03 15:07:29] cryptomad : BitMEX_Greg: Unrealised PNL is what..?? pending amount to be paid..?? To me..??
[2017-01-03 15:07:31] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Unrealised PNL is profit or loss that has not been realised yet
[2017-01-03 15:07:57] cryptomad : @BitMEX_Greg Ok thanxx
[2017-01-03 15:10:27] Noob : I sold at market. The price dropped by 20 points to complete the order. In other words, selling at market dropped my average price by around 20. Is this normal?
[2017-01-03 15:10:50] brouk : yes
[2017-01-03 15:11:07] brouk : if you sell large position
[2017-01-03 15:11:26] Noob : Lesson learned (the hard way) I was up at least 35% ROE.
[2017-01-03 15:11:32] brouk : order book is dynamic
[2017-01-03 15:11:50] brouk : you better sell by smaller amounts multiple times
[2017-01-03 15:12:05] brouk : or put limit sell order
[2017-01-03 15:12:29] Noob : @brouk thanks for the advice.
[2017-01-03 15:13:25] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: No problem. Just take a look at the trade history first. It will explain a few items such as funding paid, or fees paid. You can also see the price and quantity you entered the position and exited. The rows on the Transaction History do not necessarily show the entire trade history, that row could be from a funding payment, or a fee payment, for example.
[2017-01-03 15:13:51] brouk : Noob: also, % ROE is calculated based on mark price, which can be different from order book prices (market prices)
[2017-01-03 15:14:04] tommygunn : eth super rocket
[2017-01-03 15:16:59] tommygunn : serious rocket
[2017-01-03 15:17:38] dannybreal : boooooring ä
[2017-01-03 15:19:08] tommygunn : just ate a 130 btc wall like nothing