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[2017-01-03 07:10:26] Turbo : or everybody wins
[2017-01-03 07:10:36] Turbo : ur choise
[2017-01-03 07:11:19] Turbo : whatever screws over the most people, is what will happen
[2017-01-03 07:11:25] odieoh : Going sideways I win with funding fees
[2017-01-03 07:12:18] MikeHunt : odieoh: u short?
[2017-01-03 07:12:28] odieoh : ya
[2017-01-03 07:12:34] MikeHunt : odieoh: ditto
[2017-01-03 07:13:04] odieoh : Short and sideways is just fine atm
[2017-01-03 07:13:36] odieoh : People need to keep pumping dat premium!
[2017-01-03 07:13:55] happy : odieoh: what's the best price for cover/Buy
[2017-01-03 07:14:22] odieoh : The best price? That's easy, 0.0001
[2017-01-03 07:14:46] odieoh : The realistic price? Who knows, if there is a flash crash to 900 or something that would be great
[2017-01-03 07:14:48] MikeHunt : maybe chinese are crashing it b4 western banks open UTC time
[2017-01-03 07:15:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: sell 100 @ 120620
[2017-01-03 07:15:15] imabeast : Wouldn't short .. wait for a good long entry
[2017-01-03 07:15:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: sell 1700 @ 120008
[2017-01-03 07:17:39] imabeast : Etc is almost ready
[2017-01-03 07:18:22] MikeHunt : imabeast: what about if ur shorting from very top?
[2017-01-03 07:19:09] chords : Is this a right time to short
[2017-01-03 07:19:15] narnarfromnarnia : longs getting rekt almost time for a long entry
[2017-01-03 07:19:23] MikeHunt : chords: if your not already, probably not, mayeb after retrace
[2017-01-03 07:19:47] MikeHunt : if there is a retrace...
[2017-01-03 07:19:56] MikeHunt : this is falling faster than expected
[2017-01-03 07:20:04] odieoh : Retrace to ninefitty
[2017-01-03 07:20:16] mariomarco : eight fiddy :P
[2017-01-03 07:20:31] odieoh : ill take it
[2017-01-03 07:20:49] MikeHunt : danger zone is if it hits less than 1k finex/bitstamp
[2017-01-03 07:20:57] mariomarco : yup
[2017-01-03 07:21:06] mariomarco : MikeHunt: why danger tho
[2017-01-03 07:21:33] chords : Mikehunt: what's a retrace
[2017-01-03 07:21:41] odieoh : Danger for longs
[2017-01-03 07:22:10] mariomarco : good good let the rekt flow through them :D
[2017-01-03 07:22:47] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i suspect its a major sell wall
[2017-01-03 07:22:51] happy : i want to buy here before I transfer my bitcoins to cash
[2017-01-03 07:23:07] happy : or wait a little bit
[2017-01-03 07:23:28] MikeHunt : mariomarco: or most ppl will have stop losses arounds there if i got terminology right (its 7am no sleep)
[2017-01-03 07:27:43] MikeHunt : chords: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reversal.asp
[2017-01-03 07:30:13] 24hourz : if you get delevraged is it closed as a market order ? So position is auto closed but retain profits ?
[2017-01-03 07:35:05] Sheriff : Everyone got faked out by that dump
[2017-01-03 07:40:08] imabeast : dont short the rally
[2017-01-03 07:40:12] imabeast : just saying
[2017-01-03 07:43:42] MikeHunt : 24hourz: i think the extra profit goes back to your balance
[2017-01-03 07:46:27] 24hourz : oh ok !!
[2017-01-03 07:46:35] 24hourz : thanks @MikeHunt
[2017-01-03 08:13:50] narnarfromnarnia : going for more rekts
[2017-01-03 08:15:38] MikeHunt : i would have thought a double bottom would save this
[2017-01-03 08:15:39] MikeHunt : hmm
[2017-01-03 08:15:59] narnarfromnarnia : its getting sketchy that's for sure
[2017-01-03 08:16:05] narnarfromnarnia : either money to be made or lost big
[2017-01-03 08:17:00] MikeHunt : im mostly shorting from top but trying to catch the bounces
[2017-01-03 08:18:45] narnarfromnarnia : first day i've been able to manage a 20% ROE win
[2017-01-03 08:18:51] narnarfromnarnia : i think i'll call it a night
[2017-01-03 08:22:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1019.12
[2017-01-03 08:24:27] gustavo7 : huh can't do alerts in the chart anymore?
[2017-01-03 08:28:23] MikeHunt : gustavo7: i use bitcoinwisdom for alerts, most reliable imo
[2017-01-03 08:34:44] rapidtrades : vol is back in the euro fellas
[2017-01-03 08:35:06] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: you mean just normal forex?
[2017-01-03 08:35:10] narnarfromnarnia : or btc/eur?
[2017-01-03 08:35:10] rapidtrades : maybe i can finally make some fx monies
[2017-01-03 08:35:21] narnarfromnarnia : ah
[2017-01-03 08:35:25] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: breaking down multiple bullish patterns
[2017-01-03 08:35:30] MikeHunt : bitanic might be sinking
[2017-01-03 08:35:58] rapidtrades : btce very bearish right now
[2017-01-03 08:37:01] narnarfromnarnia : im sure bulk of coins follow the same pattern right?
[2017-01-03 08:37:01] MikeHunt : looks like rekt is gonna tank it
[2017-01-03 08:37:02] MikeHunt : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNSQfEXCEAE5tlj.png
[2017-01-03 08:37:05] narnarfromnarnia : its just not leveraged
[2017-01-03 08:37:13] rapidtrades : index would be lower if okc wasn't pumping it
[2017-01-03 08:38:52] MikeHunt : pumps didnt save titanic but maybe they can save bitanic
[2017-01-03 08:41:40] narnarfromnarnia : i am gonna start calling it the rekt hunter
[2017-01-03 08:41:55] narnarfromnarnia : once it captures a good amount its time for reversal
[2017-01-03 08:42:01] narnarfromnarnia : we haven't seen enough yet
[2017-01-03 08:42:19] MikeHunt : i think we see h&s then back down
[2017-01-03 08:42:30] MikeHunt : to ~7.1k cny
[2017-01-03 08:44:10] micmix : I was drinking tea today and saw 'castrated bull' pattern in tea leaves. I think something will happen
[2017-01-03 08:44:43] micmix : I will leave it to your imagination what that patterns mean ;-)
[2017-01-03 08:44:54] micmix : *pattern
[2017-01-03 08:46:00] MikeHunt : micmix: do you get ur tea leaves from china?
[2017-01-03 08:46:05] MikeHunt : might actually be balls
[2017-01-03 08:50:01] MikeHunt : bull*
[2017-01-03 08:55:18] happy : wow
[2017-01-03 08:56:21] MikeHunt : there we go
[2017-01-03 08:56:28] MikeHunt : maybe anotehr bounce then back up to h&s
[2017-01-03 09:05:15] micmix : MikeHunt: yeah, it was actually Chinese white tea
[2017-01-03 09:05:51] micmix : so buy the dips ;-)
[2017-01-03 09:06:28] MikeHunt : micmix: lol
[2017-01-03 09:07:18] PARAFFIN : MikeHunt: what is h&s
[2017-01-03 09:07:26] PARAFFIN : good morning
[2017-01-03 09:08:45] brouk : head and shoulder, it is a shampoo brand
[2017-01-03 09:09:08] brouk : makes your hair strong and shiny
[2017-01-03 09:09:28] PARAFFIN : ahhh
[2017-01-03 09:09:29] MikeHunt : PARAFFIN: head & shoulders chart pattern
[2017-01-03 09:09:34] PARAFFIN : ok
[2017-01-03 09:09:47] PARAFFIN : and w is wedge
[2017-01-03 09:09:55] PARAFFIN : thank you
[2017-01-03 09:10:20] MikeHunt : np
[2017-01-03 09:10:24] MikeHunt : depends if it can hold that far
[2017-01-03 09:10:28] MikeHunt : looks real weak atm
[2017-01-03 09:11:21] rowrow : no particular reason this site got delisted from coinmarket cap is there? assume fee schedule hasn't changed or anything
[2017-01-03 09:11:38] rowrow : *moved to the bottom section i mean where it isn't counted
[2017-01-03 09:13:54] PARAFFIN : looks juicy
[2017-01-03 09:14:11] micmix : PARAFFIN: h&s pattern continues as knees & toes when it goes down really quickly. this video explains everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZanHgPprl-0
[2017-01-03 09:15:22] MikeHunt : micmix: ;)
[2017-01-03 09:15:24] rustiv : learn trading by watching songs for kids
[2017-01-03 09:15:51] MikeHunt : h&s might just end this all together though, hope not, i want to see 7.1k not 6k or less
[2017-01-03 09:17:49] brouk : maybe we will see bear market through january and bull market towards ATH through rebruary
[2017-01-03 09:18:08] brouk : *february
[2017-01-03 09:18:50] brouk : that would form cup and handle on long term view
[2017-01-03 09:18:55] brouk : what do you guys think?
[2017-01-03 09:20:07] immackay : cancer
[2017-01-03 09:20:18] immackay : that's what I think
[2017-01-03 09:20:24] immackay : @rapidtrades are you short yet
[2017-01-03 09:21:12] PARAFFIN : micmix: haha i totally forgot this song lol cute
[2017-01-03 09:21:48] laisee : We'll be right back TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE We will be back online shortly. Sorry for the inconvenience. Please monitor bitfinex.statuspage.io for updates. support@bitfinex.com
[2017-01-03 09:22:16] brouk : bitfinex hacked again?
[2017-01-03 09:22:25] MikeHunt : All Systems Operational
[2017-01-03 09:22:27] MikeHunt : ?
[2017-01-03 09:22:32] laisee : and its back, for now
[2017-01-03 09:24:24] PARAFFIN : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnP_6D4lrrw
[2017-01-03 09:25:19] rowrow : if it's bitcoin's birthday, and i always manage to lose money on my own birthday, will i lose money on bitcoin's birthday?
[2017-01-03 09:26:53] MikeHunt : rowrow: are you shorting?
[2017-01-03 09:27:17] rowrow : overall long
[2017-01-03 09:27:53] MikeHunt : rowrow: and currently?
[2017-01-03 09:28:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 6 @ 0.015682
[2017-01-03 09:28:37] rowrow : sum of longs and shorts = long, 90% chance will remain that way
[2017-01-03 09:29:03] MikeHunt : prob correct to 7k if it dont collapse first
[2017-01-03 09:30:53] rowrow : 5% drop would be a bit rough when leveraged, but at the end of the day gotta wait and see
[2017-01-03 09:31:40] rowrow : decided to sleep instead of throw down some shorts when the price was 1.5% higher, missed out
[2017-01-03 09:35:05] MikeHunt : rowrow: dont worry, if its gonna retrace it should be by end of day
[2017-01-03 09:35:29] MikeHunt : at least ull be able to short a lot higher than the fomos could ever dream of ;)
[2017-01-03 09:35:51] rullwull : oil is pumping, getting more profitable than bitcoin
[2017-01-03 09:36:15] rowrow : yeah it's all good, my leverage isn't too high anyway compared to my overall holdings
[2017-01-03 09:36:44] laisee : predicting Oil production boom once Trump signs deal with Iran
[2017-01-03 09:36:59] MikeHunt : laisee: what if he blows them up instead?
[2017-01-03 09:37:09] laisee : why would he?
[2017-01-03 09:37:11] MikeHunt : goes boom literally?
[2017-01-03 09:37:32] MikeHunt : laisee: hes seems reasonable so prob wont
[2017-01-03 09:37:55] laisee : they need moar hotels and Oil production - he will do some deals.
[2017-01-03 09:38:07] MikeHunt : iran is a natural ally of US
[2017-01-03 09:38:14] MikeHunt : like vietnam could have been in the early days
[2017-01-03 09:38:20] laisee : +1 MikeHunt
[2017-01-03 09:38:31] MikeHunt : iran even when offered russian airplanes still wants western stuff
[2017-01-03 09:38:45] laisee : they're not stupid.
[2017-01-03 09:39:22] MikeHunt : only issue is israel, they dont seem to want to leave em alone
[2017-01-03 09:40:07] laisee : Israel can team up to fight Isis with Iran & USA. Too bad for Saudis.
[2017-01-03 09:40:52] MikeHunt : may just end up that way, Saudi's & Co. vs Israel/Iran/US etc.
[2017-01-03 09:41:24] MikeHunt : saudis going bankrupt and ISIS could actually take over if the monarchy falls
[2017-01-03 09:41:48] MikeHunt : so i guess its not rly vs saudis but wahhabism in general
[2017-01-03 09:41:48] laisee : I'll go with the Isranians. Saudi is in trouble.
[2017-01-03 09:42:11] MikeHunt : they cant even beat a flip flop army
[2017-01-03 09:42:19] MikeHunt : in yemen
[2017-01-03 09:42:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15 @ 1019.91
[2017-01-03 09:42:49] laisee : agree. Trump may surprise us all with the deals he does.
[2017-01-03 09:47:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 500 @ 7598.3
[2017-01-03 09:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 13227 @ 1077.43
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 491 @ 1018.14
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3 @ 1017.61 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2017-01-03 09:51:36] narnarfromnarnia : why is there a bid at 1017
[2017-01-03 09:51:38] narnarfromnarnia : not getting hit
[2017-01-03 09:52:10] divinci : updating is way off today on BitMex
[2017-01-03 09:52:42] gustavo7 : ye order book was wrong for me to, just F5'd
[2017-01-03 09:53:22] narnarfromnarnia : fuck man that's so messed up
[2017-01-03 09:53:40] narnarfromnarnia : order book glitched
[2017-01-03 09:53:43] narnarfromnarnia : wtf
[2017-01-03 09:55:26] MikeHunt : XMR gonna survive btc correction?
[2017-01-03 09:55:29] narnarfromnarnia : where is sys admin?
[2017-01-03 09:55:30] narnarfromnarnia : support
[2017-01-03 09:55:42] narnarfromnarnia : our screen freezes up and show asks
[2017-01-03 09:55:45] narnarfromnarnia : its really not cool
[2017-01-03 09:56:29] wurstgelee : gustavo7: @divinci @narnarfromnarnia had the same
[2017-01-03 09:56:34] wurstgelee : had to f5 to fix it
[2017-01-03 09:56:43] narnarfromnarnia : i refreshed but that is so jacked man
[2017-01-03 09:56:45] wurstgelee : sam? any other bitmex admin?
[2017-01-03 09:56:46] narnarfromnarnia : completely
[2017-01-03 09:57:11] narnarfromnarnia : how do you trade price action with a glitchy system?
[2017-01-03 10:00:23] brouk : everything looks fine on my side
[2017-01-03 10:00:37] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: what browser?
[2017-01-03 10:00:39] narnarfromnarnia : mine froze
[2017-01-03 10:00:40] narnarfromnarnia : chrome
[2017-01-03 10:00:49] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: check cpu usage
[2017-01-03 10:00:52] narnarfromnarnia : showed exact same order book but recent trades all chacked
[2017-01-03 10:00:55] narnarfromnarnia : jacked
[2017-01-03 10:00:59] narnarfromnarnia : cpu usage is low
[2017-01-03 10:01:11] narnarfromnarnia : mb pro too super good cpu
[2017-01-03 10:02:38] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: try running in incognito with no plugins
[2017-01-03 10:02:43] MikeHunt : see if it works better
[2017-01-03 10:03:06] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: I've been getting the same problem as you for the last few day
[2017-01-03 10:03:24] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: in the advanced settings check whether hardware acceleration is enabled
[2017-01-03 10:03:24] immackay : bitmex freezing, orderbook freezing, things freezing when trying to place a trade
[2017-01-03 10:03:38] narnarfromnarnia : ok thanks
[2017-01-03 10:03:43] immackay : also on chrome on mb pro
[2017-01-03 10:03:43] narnarfromnarnia : but that's still totally jacked
[2017-01-03 10:03:49] brouk : im using safari on mb pro without glitches
[2017-01-03 10:03:57] rapidtrades : immackay: yeah froze again even without placing trades
[2017-01-03 10:04:20] immackay : rapidtrades: yeah, my orderbook keeps freezing
[2017-01-03 10:04:49] rapidtrades : everything freezes for me , even chat
[2017-01-03 10:05:21] immackay : chat freezes sometimes for me
[2017-01-03 10:05:35] immackay : only thing that doesn't freeze usually is the chart and that's a datastream from tradingview
[2017-01-03 10:05:52] immackay : (mind you the chart doesn't work at all on mobile bitmex)
[2017-01-03 10:07:30] immackay : anyways I'll leave you guys to it
[2017-01-03 10:07:35] immackay : enjoy the crash
[2017-01-03 10:07:38] immackay : bedtime for me
[2017-01-03 10:12:18] BitMEX_Arthur : immackay: Do you get a Disconnect message from BitMEX in your browser window when the orderbook freezes?
[2017-01-03 10:13:23] narnarfromnarnia : no messge just showing orderbook
[2017-01-03 10:13:29] narnarfromnarnia : as is but recent trades accurate
[2017-01-03 10:13:33] narnarfromnarnia : order book frozen
[2017-01-03 10:13:44] narnarfromnarnia : chrome no plugins or anything running
[2017-01-03 10:14:59] BitMEX_Arthur : narnarfromnarnia: Ok thanks, I will pass this onto Sam
[2017-01-03 10:15:41] narnarfromnarnia : showed same ask wall at 1017 and went clear down to 1011 or so
[2017-01-03 10:32:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2000 @ 1077.59
[2017-01-03 10:43:05] nOgAnOo : Hey friends
[2017-01-03 10:43:09] nOgAnOo : I stopped in to say high
[2017-01-03 10:43:22] nOgAnOo : Arthur can you add steem please
[2017-01-03 10:44:09] nOgAnOo : The volume is sure to increase soon with new roadmap being released and faster power downs
[2017-01-03 10:44:28] BitMEX_Wally : nOgAnOo: Hello. In order to add Steem the volume of the spot market needs to be at least $1,000,000
[2017-01-03 10:44:30] nOgAnOo : 20x market would be nice.
[2017-01-03 10:44:54] nOgAnOo : Get rid of that Ripple crap and add Steem in it's place. :)
[2017-01-03 10:45:18] nOgAnOo : I'm tired of having to cash out my steem in bittrex before I transfer here.
[2017-01-03 10:52:56] mariomarco : #pampit
[2017-01-03 11:23:11] Apocalyptic : "I stopped in to say high" nOgAnOo that was revealing
[2017-01-03 11:25:00] Apocalyptic : ES is mooning again
[2017-01-03 11:42:52] arbitrage001 : whats up with okc price distorting the index
[2017-01-03 11:46:31] narnarfromnarnia : so if we just have a 1 contract short open we get paid
[2017-01-03 11:47:14] mariomarco : narnarfromnarnia: yes funding percent * margin * contract value
[2017-01-03 11:47:34] mariomarco : fund. percent X margin X contract
[2017-01-03 11:47:41] narnarfromnarnia : i see
[2017-01-03 11:47:49] mariomarco : so opening 1 gets you nothing
[2017-01-03 11:47:55] narnarfromnarnia : so its not really worth it then unless i have a huge contract open
[2017-01-03 11:48:01] mariomarco : narnarfromnarnia: yes
[2017-01-03 11:48:06] narnarfromnarnia : but price could dip here due to that
[2017-01-03 11:48:33] mariomarco : or not rise :D until its over
[2017-01-03 11:48:34] mariomarco : yes
[2017-01-03 11:48:56] narnarfromnarnia : just need some momentum either way
[2017-01-03 11:49:01] narnarfromnarnia : no reason to play this sideways stuff
[2017-01-03 11:49:12] narnarfromnarnia : the order book glitching is also a big concern here
[2017-01-03 11:49:19] narnarfromnarnia : and the liquidity and crazy wicks
[2017-01-03 11:51:51] mariomarco : what glitchign? @narnarfromnarnia
[2017-01-03 11:52:04] narnarfromnarnia : when we last dipped down to about 1011
[2017-01-03 11:52:13] narnarfromnarnia : i had asks still showing 25k at 1017
[2017-01-03 11:52:16] narnarfromnarnia : 1-18
[2017-01-03 11:52:18] narnarfromnarnia : 1018*
[2017-01-03 11:52:26] narnarfromnarnia : yet trades going below that
[2017-01-03 11:52:39] narnarfromnarnia : refreshed and it was fine but that's total sketch
[2017-01-03 11:52:40] mariomarco : hmm
[2017-01-03 11:52:55] narnarfromnarnia : i should get trade fees at least reimbursed
[2017-01-03 11:52:57] thomaskikansha : seems not smart to short swap right now
[2017-01-03 11:53:06] narnarfromnarnia : why do you say that?
[2017-01-03 11:53:11] mariomarco : it happened to me once, because i tabbed away from browser and it sort of stuck
[2017-01-03 11:53:50] narnarfromnarnia : yeah that happened to me as well
[2017-01-03 11:53:52] narnarfromnarnia : checking xmr price
[2017-01-03 11:54:05] narnarfromnarnia : also just after my trade it went for a liquidation attempt
[2017-01-03 11:54:14] narnarfromnarnia : its really sketch to be honest
[2017-01-03 12:03:55] rowrow : someone sold into me 2 seconds after the funding ended. *shrug* free money, can't complain
[2017-01-03 12:06:51] foobar : Im just watching the youtube lessons on arbitrage strategies
[2017-01-03 12:07:07] foobar : trying to figure out, where are the XBU futures sold?
[2017-01-03 12:07:23] rowrow : xbu?
[2017-01-03 12:09:18] foobar : inverse futures
[2017-01-03 12:09:55] foobar : xbth17 is quanto right?
[2017-01-03 12:10:22] elmorte : XBU was a hedging instrument if I'm not mistaken..discontinued a while ago
[2017-01-03 12:11:38] arbitrage001 : elmorte: fee for XBU is too high
[2017-01-03 12:11:43] foobar : so are you guys typically doing arbitrage trades or just speculation?
[2017-01-03 12:12:34] elmorte : arbitrage001: never used it, that that we had daily quantos
[2017-01-03 12:12:36] arbitrage001 : foobar: what do you think
[2017-01-03 12:12:41] rowrow : kind of a mix
[2017-01-03 12:12:51] elmorte : foobar: depends if you want to gamble or not
[2017-01-03 12:13:05] rowrow : gambling is always good
[2017-01-03 12:13:16] foobar : yea, when i joined this site a few days ago i started instinctively gambling immediately
[2017-01-03 12:13:18] foobar : lost my shirt :)
[2017-01-03 12:13:25] foobar : i think it is time to start trading a bit smarter now
[2017-01-03 12:13:26] foobar : lol
[2017-01-03 12:13:51] Kalman : foobar: you may start with reading first https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTH17
[2017-01-03 12:14:21] foobar : i have been watching the bitmex ceo's youtube videos on how to do arbitrage
[2017-01-03 12:14:31] foobar : but it seems they are a bit dated since not all of the instruments are still valid
[2017-01-03 12:14:41] foobar : (videos are only 11 months old)
[2017-01-03 12:14:45] elmorte : foobar: yeah, those are from ages ago
[2017-01-03 12:14:59] elmorte : Trying reading his Crypto Digest weekly mails.
[2017-01-03 12:15:05] elmorte : Lots of good strategies in there
[2017-01-03 12:16:51] foobar : ok
[2017-01-03 12:17:06] foobar : are those available on the blog?
[2017-01-03 12:19:27] Kalman : foobar: why dont you pay an advisor ?!
[2017-01-03 12:19:55] foobar : they have those?
[2017-01-03 12:20:00] foobar : where do you find them?
[2017-01-03 12:20:31] foobar : i was interested in learning this stuff myself, but would be down with an advisor in the interim
[2017-01-03 12:20:36] BitMEX_Wally : There is a recent YouTUbe video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehDfHTa8Sg
[2017-01-03 12:20:36] Kalman : just send the btc here : 3BMEXP2jsZpgMe7Xsoh9jQ49MbDSx57cqA
[2017-01-03 12:21:20] Kalman : afterwards you can focus on what you really can!!
[2017-01-03 12:21:23] BitMEX_Wally : The articles from the weekly Crypto Trader Digest email get put on the blog after a day or so
[2017-01-03 12:23:39] Kalman : foobar: left is only to tell me what you return objective is
[2017-01-03 12:24:45] foobar : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, i will check that one out
[2017-01-03 12:35:02] rms : why look at that, the pump starts exactly when the first US wires clear at 7:30am on january 3rd
[2017-01-03 12:35:17] weather b0y4 : rms, i just opened a large long =)
[2017-01-03 12:35:23] weather b0y4 : lets hope this is as good as we think...
[2017-01-03 12:35:29] rms : happy bitcoin everyone
[2017-01-03 12:37:15] weather b0y4 : buy support looks good on almost all exchanges
[2017-01-03 12:37:39] weather b0y4 : kraken 1 euro from all time highs
[2017-01-03 12:37:44] weather b0y4 : shoud be good day =)
[2017-01-03 12:41:20] rowrow : walk away for 2 mins and price goes up $5
[2017-01-03 12:42:40] rms : it's cool, just buy more
[2017-01-03 12:42:48] rms : buy high, sell higher
[2017-01-03 12:44:01] rowrow : yeah, sounds about where bitcoin is at right now
[2017-01-03 12:45:21] rowrow : we keep getting stuck at the 1030 range past day or two
[2017-01-03 12:45:42] rms : more wires clear at 8AM and 9AM
[2017-01-03 12:45:43] narnarfromnarnia : freezing up again
[2017-01-03 12:45:44] narnarfromnarnia : :(
[2017-01-03 12:45:52] rms : if we don't break out of the range at 9AM we're fucked for a week or so
[2017-01-03 12:45:59] brouk : looking at 12 hour this should drop down
[2017-01-03 12:47:12] rowrow : anyone know how much more depth the chinese order books tend to have? obviously far more volume but hyper inflated without fees
[2017-01-03 12:47:14] foobar : i haven't really analyzed much data, but seeing bitmex price at a discount to the kaiko quote is something i haven't seen before
[2017-01-03 12:47:37] foobar : in the past couple days
[2017-01-03 12:47:48] rms : it happens whenever shorts get paid a lot
[2017-01-03 12:48:19] rowrow : it's probably above like 80% of the time, below 20%, something like that from what i've seen
[2017-01-03 12:49:10] rowrow : occasionally funding for longs will go negative
[2017-01-03 12:49:59] brouk : 1m on okc looks bloody as fk
[2017-01-03 12:50:01] brouk : lol
[2017-01-03 12:50:29] foobar : rowrow: wow, so you can get paid out on long
[2017-01-03 12:50:32] rms : anyone know how the index price for xbtcny is weighted?
[2017-01-03 12:50:32] foobar : that is amazing
[2017-01-03 12:51:15] brouk : foobar: yeah you can do that in 15 hours if the predicted rate will keep at -0.15%
[2017-01-03 12:51:27] rowrow : yeah, but average is probably like .1% or a little more for the shorters
[2017-01-03 12:52:12] rowrow : brouk: can you check okc order books without making an account?
[2017-01-03 12:52:29] brouk : rowrow: yes
[2017-01-03 12:53:37] brouk : rowrow: its public data, the depth is shown on cryptowat.ch for example
[2017-01-03 12:54:07] rowrow : brouk: thanks, yeah some of the chinese order books are pretty crazy to follow, like 5 trades a second
[2017-01-03 12:58:46] rapidtrades : hi
[2017-01-03 12:59:42] rms : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38495804
[2017-01-03 13:00:34] rapidtrades : China's currency, the renminbi, fell about 7% in value last year. Bitcoin rose 125% in value last year
[2017-01-03 13:01:00] rapidtrades : clear correlation right there
[2017-01-03 13:02:27] rapidtrades : i was reading bitcoin markets earlier and its crazy how many ppl expect 5k to 10k coins
[2017-01-03 13:02:54] rapidtrades : we're now even more retard then usual
[2017-01-03 13:03:25] Apocalyptic : crazy expectations, but this is bitcoin rapid
[2017-01-03 13:03:29] brouk : "There are currently about 15 million Bitcoins in existence."
[2017-01-03 13:03:37] brouk : aren't there 16 million already?
[2017-01-03 13:04:41] Apocalyptic : brouk: theoretically yes, but about 1M is believed to be held in satoshi's adresses, and not spendable
[2017-01-03 13:06:33] brouk : that is "lost" bitcoins?
[2017-01-03 13:07:03] Apocalyptic : brouk: it is generally treated as such, yes
[2017-01-03 13:08:11] rapidtrades : didnt we do 1 hard fork since creation? would that render them unspendable
[2017-01-03 13:09:19] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: there are not technically unspendable, it's just that no one believes he still has the keys to them or that he will be willing to spend them
[2017-01-03 13:09:45] Apocalyptic : and there was no hard fork afaik
[2017-01-03 13:10:08] rapidtrades : there was 1
[2017-01-03 13:10:14] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: when ?
[2017-01-03 13:10:34] rapidtrades : 2011? when 1 billion btc were created
[2017-01-03 13:10:35] brouk : is it possible that someday in the future we will be able to brute force the lost private keys for these bitcoins?
[2017-01-03 13:10:51] mariomarco : brouk: nope
[2017-01-03 13:10:57] brouk : mariomarco: why not?
[2017-01-03 13:10:58] rms : http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/36090/has-a-hard-fork-ever-occurred
[2017-01-03 13:11:14] mariomarco : brouk: btc is quantum computer resistant
[2017-01-03 13:11:25] mariomarco : if you could brute force a lost account you could brute any account
[2017-01-03 13:11:31] mariomarco : so yeah :D
[2017-01-03 13:11:43] mariomarco : quantum processor rather
[2017-01-03 13:11:50] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident this ?
[2017-01-03 13:11:58] rullwull : keep in mind that over 20% of bitcoins are lost, people simply loose their private keys
[2017-01-03 13:12:17] Apocalyptic : or their HD crashes and no backup
[2017-01-03 13:13:34] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: yes
[2017-01-03 13:16:19] Apocalyptic : I guess you can call it a fork
[2017-01-03 13:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60 @ 1081.07
[2017-01-03 13:18:38] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: so his coins are gone?
[2017-01-03 13:19:35] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: read what I said above
[2017-01-03 13:20:36] Apocalyptic : people just think that if he could/wanted to move them, he would have done so by now
[2017-01-03 13:21:29] tommygunn : Good Morning NA, good night china
[2017-01-03 13:23:15] tommygunn : looks like we are still in da chop
[2017-01-03 13:24:28] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: maybe he never needed them until now?
[2017-01-03 13:27:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60000 @ 1076.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-03 13:32:27] Rado2 : rapidtrades: who is that rapidtrades?
[2017-01-03 13:32:57] rapidtrades : Satoshi
[2017-01-03 13:33:15] arbitrage001 : Satoshi is a god
[2017-01-03 13:33:25] arbitrage001 : he doesn't need money
[2017-01-03 13:35:01] BTCDJS : Lol
[2017-01-03 13:35:10] mariomarco : rapidtrades: can you help me out with somethign?
[2017-01-03 13:35:27] rowrow : he's waiting for the market cap to hit 1t then dump it all down to 1b and laugh at people
[2017-01-03 13:35:35] BTCDJS : No he is not a god. Don't start spreading fairy tails to noobs
[2017-01-03 13:36:12] BTCDJS : thats how religions start
[2017-01-03 13:36:42] BTCDJS : We don't need another cult
[2017-01-03 13:37:58] rapidtrades : http://www.christianitytoday.com/satoshi-jesus-himself
[2017-01-03 13:38:15] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: the link above says ur WRONG
[2017-01-03 13:39:14] BTCDJS : Error page. Cannot find what you're looking for
[2017-01-03 13:39:46] BTCDJS : So ner ner ner ner ner
[2017-01-03 13:40:12] rapidtrades : http://news.forexlive.com/!/gm-motors-in-the-trump-firing-line-20170103
[2017-01-03 13:40:15] rapidtrades : try that one ^
[2017-01-03 13:40:54] BTCDJS : Wat?
[2017-01-03 13:41:05] BTCDJS : You trying to hack me?
[2017-01-03 13:41:13] BTCDJS : What is this shit?
[2017-01-03 13:41:54] mutato : Bitcoin is dead, Satoshi is the drowned god
[2017-01-03 13:41:58] Apocalyptic : rapid is the most feared hacker in the trollbox, don't just trust his links
[2017-01-03 13:41:59] mutato : What Is Dead May Never Die
[2017-01-03 13:45:33] laisee : Satoshi is code, now and forever
[2017-01-03 13:46:12] BTCDJS : OMG a cult is starting
[2017-01-03 13:46:27] laisee : blasphemy!
[2017-01-03 13:46:40] laisee : cast out the unbelievers ...
[2017-01-03 13:47:00] narnarfromnarnia : why can't we see the current mark price?
[2017-01-03 13:47:09] narnarfromnarnia : even without a position open we should be able to see that no?
[2017-01-03 13:47:28] BTCDJS : Bow down to the steem god. His deciple was here preaching yesterday
[2017-01-03 13:47:42] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: lol
[2017-01-03 13:47:54] BTCDJS : he will and should defeat the bitcoin god apparently
[2017-01-03 13:47:58] Apocalyptic : I wonder why he's pumpim that alt
[2017-01-03 13:48:29] BTCDJS : he gets 200 a week and he wants to sell them to people
[2017-01-03 13:48:38] BTCDJS : or something like that
[2017-01-03 13:48:44] laisee : pimpimg to an audience of few humdred traders ... wasted effort
[2017-01-03 13:48:45] Apocalyptic : finex below bearstamp
[2017-01-03 13:48:49] rapidtrades : narnarfromnarnia: mark proce is right there in middle, hover over shit
[2017-01-03 13:48:52] BTCDJS : Wasn't paying too much attention
[2017-01-03 13:49:10] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ykva43lbj4xw218/Screenshot%202017-01-03%2007.49.07.png?dl=0
[2017-01-03 13:49:13] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades:
[2017-01-03 13:49:25] laisee : people shouldnt trade their rent money hi on c.ra.ck
[2017-01-03 13:50:18] rms : ok futures go!
[2017-01-03 13:50:40] BTCDJS : Oh wait this part I do remember. He doesn't trade it he only sells it-his words
[2017-01-03 13:51:08] elmorte : rms: what contract did you make most of that bounty on?
[2017-01-03 13:51:56] rms : split up between the different bitcoin contracts
[2017-01-03 13:52:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 5 @ 0.008430
[2017-01-03 13:53:26] elmorte : rms: nice
[2017-01-03 13:53:40] elmorte : totally vague, but still nice
[2017-01-03 13:54:16] rms : swaps, 2016 futures, 2017 futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:20] rms : no yuan futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:31] rms : but i realized that was dumb and now i have yuan futures
[2017-01-03 13:54:55] rms : always long, never short on bitcoin
[2017-01-03 13:55:10] elmorte : Cool, nice one, cheers
[2017-01-03 13:56:43] rapidtrades : cheers!
[2017-01-03 13:57:03] rapidtrades : TO THE DEATH OF BITCOIN
[2017-01-03 13:57:09] dannybreal : cmon guys help the market throw i a mil someone pls
[2017-01-03 14:00:03] BTCDJS : dannybreal: close to margin call?
[2017-01-03 14:01:12] dannybreal : nope, market needs it to bounce
[2017-01-03 14:01:52] BTCDJS : Close long but back a triple digits ?
[2017-01-03 14:02:51] BTCDJS : Buy* at*
[2017-01-03 14:03:00] BTCDJS : stupid phone
[2017-01-03 14:05:40] dannybreal : :D
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : I have found an interesting thing. orderQty > cumQty in my testnet execution message: {"table":"execution","action":"insert","data":[{"execID":"902166f9-c9f8-f0d3-07be-1f7a849045fe","orderID":"1167ab24-9d1c-d8ac-5ffb-47798b8f9f0f","clOrdID":"O1483364453783_39432","clOrdLinkID":"","account":1087,"symbol":"XBTUSD","side":"Sell","lastQty":2001,"lastPx":1012.88,"underlyingLastPx":null,"lastMkt":"XBME","lastLiquidityInd":"AddedLiquidity
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : ","simpleOrderQty":null,"orderQty":2000,"price":1012.88,"displayQty":null,"stopPx":null,"pegOffsetValue":null,"pegPriceType":"","currency":"USD","settlCurrency":"XBt","execType":"Trade","ordType":"Limit","timeInForce":"GoodTillCancel","execInst":"ParticipateDoNotInitiate","contingencyType":"","exDestination":"XBME","ordStatus":"Filled","triggered":"","workingIndicator":false,"ordRejReason":"","simpleLeavesQty":0,"leavesQty":0,"
[2017-01-03 14:06:57] martyix : simpleCumQty":1.97554728,"cumQty":2001,"avgPx":1012.88,"commission":-0.00025,"tradePublishIndicator":"PublishTrade","multiLegReportingType":"SingleSecurity","text":"Submitted via API.","trdMatchID":"1ddefa23-1895-90a1-8164-5b5843d776c8","execCost":197554728,"execComm":-49389,"homeNotional":-1.97554728,"foreignNotional":2001,"transactTime":"2017-01-02T13:41:50.353Z","timestamp":"2017-01-02T13:41:50.353Z"}]}
[2017-01-03 14:07:47] martyix : "orderQty":2000 and "cumQty":2001 and "lastQty":2001
[2017-01-03 14:07:58] Rado : martyix: testnet has some code that is "tested"
[2017-01-03 14:08:02] Rado : report it to BitMEX
[2017-01-03 14:08:42] martyix : Rado: well, bitmex folks read it here
[2017-01-03 14:08:43] BitMEX_Wally : martyix: Thanks, I will investigate
[2017-01-03 14:09:04] martyix : muchas gracias :)
[2017-01-03 14:09:49] Rado2 : martyix: well you need to say one of the magic words
[2017-01-03 14:09:56] Rado2 : support, BitMEX etc
[2017-01-03 14:10:22] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: what are the words you have alerts on?
[2017-01-03 14:10:27] martyix : I see. Thanks. I'll report it correctly next time.
[2017-01-03 14:10:56] BitMEX_Wally : Rado2: There are no keywords, we just keep an eye on the trollbox
[2017-01-03 14:10:59] Rado2 : martyix: also the best way to report something is to send an email to support@bitmex.com
[2017-01-03 14:11:10] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: thanks
[2017-01-03 14:11:32] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: I appreciate the quick response to my requests
[2017-01-03 14:11:36] mariomarco : BitMEX_Wally: how long can a position stay open on a perpetual swap?
[2017-01-03 14:11:47] Rado2 : mariomarco: forever
[2017-01-03 14:11:47] sleger : only until perpetuity
[2017-01-03 14:11:52] BitMEX_Wally : Yep
[2017-01-03 14:12:04] Rado2 : sleger: how was your flight
[2017-01-03 14:12:16] mariomarco : so potentially people that opened long at let say 800 can still have it open?
[2017-01-03 14:12:16] sleger : usual, fine, short
[2017-01-03 14:12:25] Rado2 : nice
[2017-01-03 14:13:53] Rado2 : sleger: after a few tweaks my bot performing much better
[2017-01-03 14:13:55] BitMEX_Wally : Rado2: Thanks for reporting that, it was due to a special order being tested in testnet that traded against your limit order. I will fix that rounding issue
[2017-01-03 14:14:28] sleger : Rado2: isnt it too early to say ?
[2017-01-03 14:14:34] Rado2 : a lot more work to do on dynamic spread
[2017-01-03 14:14:57] Rado2 : sleger: it is early, but happy with what I see so far
[2017-01-03 14:15:07] Rado2 : handled a few big drops very nice
[2017-01-03 14:15:19] sleger : what size are you quoting now ?
[2017-01-03 14:15:33] Rado2 : the big problem I need to solve now is I am leavign money on the table by not adjusting spread
[2017-01-03 14:15:53] Rado2 : I am still at 500, but thinking of changing to 1000
[2017-01-03 14:16:03] sleger : most bots here are coded to only improve best bid/ask by minimal increment
[2017-01-03 14:17:06] Rado2 : I know
[2017-01-03 14:17:28] Rado2 : I have one feature that is totally my own :-)
[2017-01-03 14:17:43] Rado2 : maybe other has a similar thing, not really sure
[2017-01-03 14:17:49] rapidtrades : sleger: ur russian gf amost died https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGCO6bOOKpo
[2017-01-03 14:18:36] Rado2 : rapidtrades: ha ha
[2017-01-03 14:21:19] Rado2 : BitMEX_Wally: are bots on testnet trying to outsmart each other or there are some "test" trades by users?
[2017-01-03 14:21:55] Rado2 : the only thing I can really test is that the code doesn't have errors there
[2017-01-03 14:23:00] Rado2 : It will be great if there is a simulated orders place based on some algo
[2017-01-03 14:26:09] Rado : chop chop till you drop
[2017-01-03 14:26:24] Rado : need another push higher to get some shorts
[2017-01-03 14:26:50] MikeHunt : is this why they call it a woodchipper?
[2017-01-03 14:28:16] Rado2 : MikeHunt: http://i.imgur.com/t0Pw9AN.png
[2017-01-03 14:29:11] Wigga : 多仓被爆: 卖出
[2017-01-03 14:32:53] Naloxone : I feel like the rekt train will arrive soon
[2017-01-03 14:35:12] zach719 : buy the dip?
[2017-01-03 14:36:35] cryptomad : Bitmex support..???
[2017-01-03 14:36:45] cryptomad : Someone here...??
[2017-01-03 14:36:57] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 150 @ 1071.90
[2017-01-03 14:37:30] moo : China desperation pump...
[2017-01-03 14:41:45] BitMEX_Wally : cryptomad: Hello
[2017-01-03 14:45:02] narnarfromnarnia : why are longs being liquidated when the trend is up?
[2017-01-03 14:45:41] exo : really high leverage probs
[2017-01-03 14:45:46] exo : and they bought at top
[2017-01-03 14:46:10] narnarfromnarnia : i see
[2017-01-03 14:46:41] laisee : price dipped to 1071
[2017-01-03 14:47:54] rowrow : you ain't really livin' if you don't use 100x leverage
[2017-01-03 14:50:30] zach719 : bitmex why u dumpin?
[2017-01-03 14:51:04] Apocalyptic : zach719: gotta dump one day
[2017-01-03 14:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 190 @ 0.001498
[2017-01-03 14:55:01] BTCDJS : Rado2: what do you think about haasbot? Any good?
[2017-01-03 14:55:23] Rado2 : BTCDJS: haven't tried that one
[2017-01-03 14:56:06] BTCDJS : Rado2: coindesk rated it 4.5/5
[2017-01-03 14:56:17] cryptomad : BitMEX_Wally: If made a long with 10btc's my profit was of $2 per BTC..Why my PNL is coming in minus (-)
[2017-01-03 14:56:17] BTCDJS : but I've never us d a bot
[2017-01-03 14:56:48] BTCDJS : thinking about it. Is it difficult for non coders? @Rado2
[2017-01-03 14:57:05] Rado2 : yes
[2017-01-03 14:57:06] BitMEX_Greg : cryptomad: Have you closed your position yet?
[2017-01-03 14:57:17] cryptomad : Yes
[2017-01-03 14:57:20] cryptomad : it is closed.
[2017-01-03 14:57:46] BTCDJS : ?