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[2017-01-03 05:35:37] BitMEX_Arthur : l3f: support@bitmex.com
[2017-01-03 05:36:04] l3f : BitMEX_Arthur: ty
[2017-01-03 05:36:16] MikeHunt : l3f: whats makes you think it wont just crash like the previous ones?
[2017-01-03 05:36:38] l3f : MikeHunt: it would but not right now
[2017-01-03 05:36:44] mariomarco : we re due for a correction if we want to keep going up
[2017-01-03 05:36:55] l3f : it may dip
[2017-01-03 05:37:10] l3f : but correction would be back down <900
[2017-01-03 05:37:22] mariomarco : i was thinking of a retrace then
[2017-01-03 05:37:29] mariomarco : 980ish
[2017-01-03 05:37:41] CaptainDean : XMR in fire
[2017-01-03 05:38:11] MikeHunt : l3f: thats what im thinking but i also think they may have pumped the 3rd wave too quickly
[2017-01-03 05:39:56] mariomarco : whos buying lol
[2017-01-03 05:40:55] l3f : mariomarco: China
[2017-01-03 05:40:57] l3f : it's all china buying
[2017-01-03 05:44:10] rms : if you guys are worried about the spread you're on too high of leverage... new fiat hits bitstamp and bitfinex when the banks open in new york starting at 7:30AM
[2017-01-03 05:44:38] rms : i would bet that we get back to the normal rate of china being $30 ahead
[2017-01-03 05:44:40] MikeHunt : rms: and if it doesn't?
[2017-01-03 05:45:09] MikeHunt : rms: westerners can get crypto via credit/debit card
[2017-01-03 05:46:34] MikeHunt : bitstamp may get some extra volume as it didnt allow card for some reason but i dont think it will be enough to fix the buble in its current position imo
[2017-01-03 05:48:12] l3f : MikeHunt: It has to be higher because China's currency keeps depreciating
[2017-01-03 05:48:23] l3f : and people now want to pay more premium for outflows
[2017-01-03 05:48:36] MikeHunt : @l3f look at how fast its depreciating vs bitcoin
[2017-01-03 05:49:25] MikeHunt : when i showed sledger the chart he said it meant bitcoin was doomed
[2017-01-03 05:49:58] l3f : it is
[2017-01-03 05:50:05] MikeHunt : if you look at venuezuela, its going to shit as its depreciating, china isnt deteriotating that fast
[2017-01-03 05:50:48] l3f : also it takes at least 3 days to get money into bitstamp
[2017-01-03 05:50:56] l3f : I know because I've done it twice
[2017-01-03 05:51:41] MikeHunt : l3f: you can deposit via credit card
[2017-01-03 05:51:51] l3f : MikeHunt: and pay retarded fees
[2017-01-03 05:52:18] MikeHunt : also if 90%+ volume is chinese, what makes you think bitstamp matters so much?
[2017-01-03 05:52:53] l3f : MikeHunt: it doesn't
[2017-01-03 05:53:51] MikeHunt : i think this will either correct to 900 and continue or flash crash and then continue as the part of a larger bubble
[2017-01-03 05:55:06] l3f : I think sideways consolidation
[2017-01-03 05:55:10] l3f : for the next few days
[2017-01-03 05:56:16] MikeHunt : l3f: like previous 2 waves?
[2017-01-03 05:56:57] l3f : I'm inclined to believe so but with the media spotlight shining I expect something else
[2017-01-03 05:57:31] l3f : Once it hits ATH things become more interesting
[2017-01-03 06:00:56] happy : Good luck guys, I am out here and long gold futures
[2017-01-03 06:01:27] MikeHunt : l3f: agreed
[2017-01-03 06:01:41] MikeHunt : happy: why not both?
[2017-01-03 06:01:56] MikeHunt : happy: or just til bitcoin settles?
[2017-01-03 06:02:08] happy : MikeHunt: I am poor, no money in both
[2017-01-03 06:08:15] MikeHunt : happy: did you get rekt or lost some?
[2017-01-03 06:12:06] imapotato : I'm looking forward to BTC price when banks open tomorrow.
[2017-01-03 06:18:27] MikeHunt : imapotato: what about the banks already open in china?
[2017-01-03 06:21:53] happy : This is not about when banks open..
[2017-01-03 06:22:14] happy : MikeHunt: Yes.
[2017-01-03 06:23:33] happy : drop drop drop
[2017-01-03 06:23:46] happy : i want some cheap coins
[2017-01-03 06:32:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 32000 @ 1086.36
[2017-01-03 06:33:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 7000 @ 7709.9
[2017-01-03 06:42:11] Turbo : have enough noobs been scared out of being long yet?
[2017-01-03 06:44:15] MikeHunt : Turbo: need more rekt me thinks
[2017-01-03 06:44:19] arbitrage001 : Turbo: yup
[2017-01-03 06:44:28] arbitrage001 : good time to buy
[2017-01-03 06:44:41] arbitrage001 : <--- noob
[2017-01-03 06:45:01] MikeHunt : anyone manage to short the top?
[2017-01-03 06:48:06] VenezuelanPower : fuck off
[2017-01-03 06:50:59] Turbo : all honesty, I've been doing this a long time, i see us stabilizing at this level for the next 3 days, then making a move on the ATH
[2017-01-03 06:51:05] arbitrage001 : buy the dip
[2017-01-03 06:51:52] arbitrage001 : Turbo: yes. our collective will will make it go to moon
[2017-01-03 06:52:02] arbitrage001 : mind > body
[2017-01-03 06:52:26] Turbo : downside risk is less than 5%
[2017-01-03 06:54:06] MikeHunt : it should gently carass over to ~7100 min.
[2017-01-03 06:54:21] MikeHunt : unless they loose control over it...
[2017-01-03 06:55:41] laisee : cryptowat.ch showing OKC daily % mvmt as 'infinity'. watch out ...
[2017-01-03 06:56:21] mariomarco : MikeHunt: +++
[2017-01-03 06:56:32] laisee : someone in China has become very rich today ;-)
[2017-01-03 06:59:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7000 @ 1021.91
[2017-01-03 06:59:29] happy : https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2017-01-03 07:00:03] happy : why top traders all have xxx-xxx-xxx style name? Are they all same person?
[2017-01-03 07:00:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1021.13
[2017-01-03 07:02:06] mariomarco : dumpit
[2017-01-03 07:02:07] mariomarco : its going to hell
[2017-01-03 07:02:10] mariomarco : save yourself
[2017-01-03 07:02:45] MikeHunt : oh dear
[2017-01-03 07:02:56] MikeHunt : thought this might happen, gentle carass... whales have other ideas
[2017-01-03 07:03:19] mariomarco : huobi doown
[2017-01-03 07:04:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 20000 @ 1080.88
[2017-01-03 07:04:53] l3f : it's collapsing
[2017-01-03 07:05:02] mariomarco : flashcrash
[2017-01-03 07:05:06] MikeHunt : like a rekt-ing ball... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrydcstzEVA
[2017-01-03 07:05:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 96 @ 1017.22
[2017-01-03 07:05:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1016.31
[2017-01-03 07:05:26] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2017-01-03 07:05:44] MikeHunt : Thats when rothschild said best time to buy, blood on the streets
[2017-01-03 07:05:46] mariomarco : more down
[2017-01-03 07:05:51] Turbo : lol, you fools are so panicy
[2017-01-03 07:05:54] MikeHunt : rekt = rothschild?
[2017-01-03 07:06:13] MikeHunt : Turbo: you still long?
[2017-01-03 07:07:00] MikeHunt : also i thought XMR might hold out, guess not...
[2017-01-03 07:08:25] l3f : dip buyers strong
[2017-01-03 07:09:12] MikeHunt : not sure i want to play knife catching
[2017-01-03 07:09:33] blacktuesday : bullis dump
[2017-01-03 07:09:39] mariomarco : this is gonna crash
[2017-01-03 07:09:47] mariomarco : we might as well let it
[2017-01-03 07:10:07] blacktuesday : nah
[2017-01-03 07:10:12] blacktuesday : all dips gettin bought
[2017-01-03 07:10:15] Turbo : its not going up, or down, its going sideways, nobody wins
[2017-01-03 07:10:19] MikeHunt : if ur shorting from the top with leverage, knife catching dont sound so fun
[2017-01-03 07:10:26] Turbo : or everybody wins
[2017-01-03 07:10:36] Turbo : ur choise
[2017-01-03 07:11:19] Turbo : whatever screws over the most people, is what will happen
[2017-01-03 07:11:25] odieoh : Going sideways I win with funding fees
[2017-01-03 07:12:18] MikeHunt : odieoh: u short?
[2017-01-03 07:12:28] odieoh : ya
[2017-01-03 07:12:34] MikeHunt : odieoh: ditto
[2017-01-03 07:13:04] odieoh : Short and sideways is just fine atm
[2017-01-03 07:13:36] odieoh : People need to keep pumping dat premium!
[2017-01-03 07:13:55] happy : odieoh: what's the best price for cover/Buy
[2017-01-03 07:14:22] odieoh : The best price? That's easy, 0.0001
[2017-01-03 07:14:46] odieoh : The realistic price? Who knows, if there is a flash crash to 900 or something that would be great
[2017-01-03 07:14:48] MikeHunt : maybe chinese are crashing it b4 western banks open UTC time
[2017-01-03 07:15:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: sell 100 @ 120620
[2017-01-03 07:15:15] imabeast : Wouldn't short .. wait for a good long entry
[2017-01-03 07:15:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: sell 1700 @ 120008
[2017-01-03 07:17:39] imabeast : Etc is almost ready
[2017-01-03 07:18:22] MikeHunt : imabeast: what about if ur shorting from very top?
[2017-01-03 07:19:09] chords : Is this a right time to short
[2017-01-03 07:19:15] narnarfromnarnia : longs getting rekt almost time for a long entry
[2017-01-03 07:19:23] MikeHunt : chords: if your not already, probably not, mayeb after retrace
[2017-01-03 07:19:47] MikeHunt : if there is a retrace...
[2017-01-03 07:19:56] MikeHunt : this is falling faster than expected
[2017-01-03 07:20:04] odieoh : Retrace to ninefitty
[2017-01-03 07:20:16] mariomarco : eight fiddy :P
[2017-01-03 07:20:31] odieoh : ill take it
[2017-01-03 07:20:49] MikeHunt : danger zone is if it hits less than 1k finex/bitstamp
[2017-01-03 07:20:57] mariomarco : yup
[2017-01-03 07:21:06] mariomarco : MikeHunt: why danger tho
[2017-01-03 07:21:33] chords : Mikehunt: what's a retrace
[2017-01-03 07:21:41] odieoh : Danger for longs
[2017-01-03 07:22:10] mariomarco : good good let the rekt flow through them :D
[2017-01-03 07:22:47] MikeHunt : mariomarco: i suspect its a major sell wall
[2017-01-03 07:22:51] happy : i want to buy here before I transfer my bitcoins to cash
[2017-01-03 07:23:07] happy : or wait a little bit
[2017-01-03 07:23:28] MikeHunt : mariomarco: or most ppl will have stop losses arounds there if i got terminology right (its 7am no sleep)
[2017-01-03 07:27:43] MikeHunt : chords: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reversal.asp
[2017-01-03 07:30:13] 24hourz : if you get delevraged is it closed as a market order ? So position is auto closed but retain profits ?
[2017-01-03 07:35:05] Sheriff : Everyone got faked out by that dump
[2017-01-03 07:40:08] imabeast : dont short the rally
[2017-01-03 07:40:12] imabeast : just saying
[2017-01-03 07:43:42] MikeHunt : 24hourz: i think the extra profit goes back to your balance
[2017-01-03 07:46:27] 24hourz : oh ok !!
[2017-01-03 07:46:35] 24hourz : thanks @MikeHunt
[2017-01-03 08:13:50] narnarfromnarnia : going for more rekts
[2017-01-03 08:15:38] MikeHunt : i would have thought a double bottom would save this
[2017-01-03 08:15:39] MikeHunt : hmm
[2017-01-03 08:15:59] narnarfromnarnia : its getting sketchy that's for sure
[2017-01-03 08:16:05] narnarfromnarnia : either money to be made or lost big
[2017-01-03 08:17:00] MikeHunt : im mostly shorting from top but trying to catch the bounces
[2017-01-03 08:18:45] narnarfromnarnia : first day i've been able to manage a 20% ROE win
[2017-01-03 08:18:51] narnarfromnarnia : i think i'll call it a night
[2017-01-03 08:22:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1019.12
[2017-01-03 08:24:27] gustavo7 : huh can't do alerts in the chart anymore?
[2017-01-03 08:28:23] MikeHunt : gustavo7: i use bitcoinwisdom for alerts, most reliable imo
[2017-01-03 08:34:44] rapidtrades : vol is back in the euro fellas
[2017-01-03 08:35:06] narnarfromnarnia : rapidtrades: you mean just normal forex?
[2017-01-03 08:35:10] narnarfromnarnia : or btc/eur?
[2017-01-03 08:35:10] rapidtrades : maybe i can finally make some fx monies
[2017-01-03 08:35:21] narnarfromnarnia : ah
[2017-01-03 08:35:25] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: breaking down multiple bullish patterns
[2017-01-03 08:35:30] MikeHunt : bitanic might be sinking
[2017-01-03 08:35:58] rapidtrades : btce very bearish right now
[2017-01-03 08:37:01] narnarfromnarnia : im sure bulk of coins follow the same pattern right?
[2017-01-03 08:37:01] MikeHunt : looks like rekt is gonna tank it
[2017-01-03 08:37:02] MikeHunt : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNSQfEXCEAE5tlj.png
[2017-01-03 08:37:05] narnarfromnarnia : its just not leveraged
[2017-01-03 08:37:13] rapidtrades : index would be lower if okc wasn't pumping it
[2017-01-03 08:38:52] MikeHunt : pumps didnt save titanic but maybe they can save bitanic
[2017-01-03 08:41:40] narnarfromnarnia : i am gonna start calling it the rekt hunter
[2017-01-03 08:41:55] narnarfromnarnia : once it captures a good amount its time for reversal
[2017-01-03 08:42:01] narnarfromnarnia : we haven't seen enough yet
[2017-01-03 08:42:19] MikeHunt : i think we see h&s then back down
[2017-01-03 08:42:30] MikeHunt : to ~7.1k cny
[2017-01-03 08:44:10] micmix : I was drinking tea today and saw 'castrated bull' pattern in tea leaves. I think something will happen
[2017-01-03 08:44:43] micmix : I will leave it to your imagination what that patterns mean ;-)
[2017-01-03 08:44:54] micmix : *pattern
[2017-01-03 08:46:00] MikeHunt : micmix: do you get ur tea leaves from china?
[2017-01-03 08:46:05] MikeHunt : might actually be balls
[2017-01-03 08:50:01] MikeHunt : bull*
[2017-01-03 08:55:18] happy : wow
[2017-01-03 08:56:21] MikeHunt : there we go
[2017-01-03 08:56:28] MikeHunt : maybe anotehr bounce then back up to h&s
[2017-01-03 09:05:15] micmix : MikeHunt: yeah, it was actually Chinese white tea
[2017-01-03 09:05:51] micmix : so buy the dips ;-)
[2017-01-03 09:06:28] MikeHunt : micmix: lol
[2017-01-03 09:07:18] PARAFFIN : MikeHunt: what is h&s
[2017-01-03 09:07:26] PARAFFIN : good morning
[2017-01-03 09:08:45] brouk : head and shoulder, it is a shampoo brand
[2017-01-03 09:09:08] brouk : makes your hair strong and shiny
[2017-01-03 09:09:28] PARAFFIN : ahhh
[2017-01-03 09:09:29] MikeHunt : PARAFFIN: head & shoulders chart pattern
[2017-01-03 09:09:34] PARAFFIN : ok
[2017-01-03 09:09:47] PARAFFIN : and w is wedge
[2017-01-03 09:09:55] PARAFFIN : thank you
[2017-01-03 09:10:20] MikeHunt : np
[2017-01-03 09:10:24] MikeHunt : depends if it can hold that far
[2017-01-03 09:10:28] MikeHunt : looks real weak atm
[2017-01-03 09:11:21] rowrow : no particular reason this site got delisted from coinmarket cap is there? assume fee schedule hasn't changed or anything
[2017-01-03 09:11:38] rowrow : *moved to the bottom section i mean where it isn't counted
[2017-01-03 09:13:54] PARAFFIN : looks juicy
[2017-01-03 09:14:11] micmix : PARAFFIN: h&s pattern continues as knees & toes when it goes down really quickly. this video explains everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZanHgPprl-0
[2017-01-03 09:15:22] MikeHunt : micmix: ;)
[2017-01-03 09:15:24] rustiv : learn trading by watching songs for kids
[2017-01-03 09:15:51] MikeHunt : h&s might just end this all together though, hope not, i want to see 7.1k not 6k or less
[2017-01-03 09:17:49] brouk : maybe we will see bear market through january and bull market towards ATH through rebruary
[2017-01-03 09:18:08] brouk : *february
[2017-01-03 09:18:50] brouk : that would form cup and handle on long term view
[2017-01-03 09:18:55] brouk : what do you guys think?
[2017-01-03 09:20:07] immackay : cancer
[2017-01-03 09:20:18] immackay : that's what I think
[2017-01-03 09:20:24] immackay : @rapidtrades are you short yet
[2017-01-03 09:21:12] PARAFFIN : micmix: haha i totally forgot this song lol cute
[2017-01-03 09:21:48] laisee : We'll be right back TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE We will be back online shortly. Sorry for the inconvenience. Please monitor bitfinex.statuspage.io for updates. support@bitfinex.com
[2017-01-03 09:22:16] brouk : bitfinex hacked again?
[2017-01-03 09:22:25] MikeHunt : All Systems Operational
[2017-01-03 09:22:27] MikeHunt : ?
[2017-01-03 09:22:32] laisee : and its back, for now
[2017-01-03 09:24:24] PARAFFIN : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnP_6D4lrrw
[2017-01-03 09:25:19] rowrow : if it's bitcoin's birthday, and i always manage to lose money on my own birthday, will i lose money on bitcoin's birthday?
[2017-01-03 09:26:53] MikeHunt : rowrow: are you shorting?
[2017-01-03 09:27:17] rowrow : overall long
[2017-01-03 09:27:53] MikeHunt : rowrow: and currently?
[2017-01-03 09:28:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 6 @ 0.015682
[2017-01-03 09:28:37] rowrow : sum of longs and shorts = long, 90% chance will remain that way
[2017-01-03 09:29:03] MikeHunt : prob correct to 7k if it dont collapse first
[2017-01-03 09:30:53] rowrow : 5% drop would be a bit rough when leveraged, but at the end of the day gotta wait and see
[2017-01-03 09:31:40] rowrow : decided to sleep instead of throw down some shorts when the price was 1.5% higher, missed out
[2017-01-03 09:35:05] MikeHunt : rowrow: dont worry, if its gonna retrace it should be by end of day
[2017-01-03 09:35:29] MikeHunt : at least ull be able to short a lot higher than the fomos could ever dream of ;)
[2017-01-03 09:35:51] rullwull : oil is pumping, getting more profitable than bitcoin
[2017-01-03 09:36:15] rowrow : yeah it's all good, my leverage isn't too high anyway compared to my overall holdings
[2017-01-03 09:36:44] laisee : predicting Oil production boom once Trump signs deal with Iran
[2017-01-03 09:36:59] MikeHunt : laisee: what if he blows them up instead?
[2017-01-03 09:37:09] laisee : why would he?
[2017-01-03 09:37:11] MikeHunt : goes boom literally?
[2017-01-03 09:37:32] MikeHunt : laisee: hes seems reasonable so prob wont
[2017-01-03 09:37:55] laisee : they need moar hotels and Oil production - he will do some deals.
[2017-01-03 09:38:07] MikeHunt : iran is a natural ally of US
[2017-01-03 09:38:14] MikeHunt : like vietnam could have been in the early days
[2017-01-03 09:38:20] laisee : +1 MikeHunt
[2017-01-03 09:38:31] MikeHunt : iran even when offered russian airplanes still wants western stuff
[2017-01-03 09:38:45] laisee : they're not stupid.
[2017-01-03 09:39:22] MikeHunt : only issue is israel, they dont seem to want to leave em alone
[2017-01-03 09:40:07] laisee : Israel can team up to fight Isis with Iran & USA. Too bad for Saudis.
[2017-01-03 09:40:52] MikeHunt : may just end up that way, Saudi's & Co. vs Israel/Iran/US etc.
[2017-01-03 09:41:24] MikeHunt : saudis going bankrupt and ISIS could actually take over if the monarchy falls
[2017-01-03 09:41:48] MikeHunt : so i guess its not rly vs saudis but wahhabism in general
[2017-01-03 09:41:48] laisee : I'll go with the Isranians. Saudi is in trouble.
[2017-01-03 09:42:11] MikeHunt : they cant even beat a flip flop army
[2017-01-03 09:42:19] MikeHunt : in yemen
[2017-01-03 09:42:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 15 @ 1019.91
[2017-01-03 09:42:49] laisee : agree. Trump may surprise us all with the deals he does.
[2017-01-03 09:47:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 500 @ 7598.3
[2017-01-03 09:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 13227 @ 1077.43
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 491 @ 1018.14
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3 @ 1017.61 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-03 09:49:41] REKT : Blood on the streets!
[2017-01-03 09:51:36] narnarfromnarnia : why is there a bid at 1017
[2017-01-03 09:51:38] narnarfromnarnia : not getting hit
[2017-01-03 09:52:10] divinci : updating is way off today on BitMex
[2017-01-03 09:52:42] gustavo7 : ye order book was wrong for me to, just F5'd
[2017-01-03 09:53:22] narnarfromnarnia : fuck man that's so messed up
[2017-01-03 09:53:40] narnarfromnarnia : order book glitched
[2017-01-03 09:53:43] narnarfromnarnia : wtf
[2017-01-03 09:55:26] MikeHunt : XMR gonna survive btc correction?
[2017-01-03 09:55:29] narnarfromnarnia : where is sys admin?
[2017-01-03 09:55:30] narnarfromnarnia : support
[2017-01-03 09:55:42] narnarfromnarnia : our screen freezes up and show asks
[2017-01-03 09:55:45] narnarfromnarnia : its really not cool
[2017-01-03 09:56:29] wurstgelee : gustavo7: @divinci @narnarfromnarnia had the same
[2017-01-03 09:56:34] wurstgelee : had to f5 to fix it
[2017-01-03 09:56:43] narnarfromnarnia : i refreshed but that is so jacked man
[2017-01-03 09:56:45] wurstgelee : sam? any other bitmex admin?
[2017-01-03 09:56:46] narnarfromnarnia : completely
[2017-01-03 09:57:11] narnarfromnarnia : how do you trade price action with a glitchy system?
[2017-01-03 10:00:23] brouk : everything looks fine on my side
[2017-01-03 10:00:37] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: what browser?
[2017-01-03 10:00:39] narnarfromnarnia : mine froze
[2017-01-03 10:00:40] narnarfromnarnia : chrome
[2017-01-03 10:00:49] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: check cpu usage
[2017-01-03 10:00:52] narnarfromnarnia : showed exact same order book but recent trades all chacked
[2017-01-03 10:00:55] narnarfromnarnia : jacked
[2017-01-03 10:00:59] narnarfromnarnia : cpu usage is low
[2017-01-03 10:01:11] narnarfromnarnia : mb pro too super good cpu
[2017-01-03 10:02:38] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: try running in incognito with no plugins
[2017-01-03 10:02:43] MikeHunt : see if it works better
[2017-01-03 10:03:06] immackay : narnarfromnarnia: I've been getting the same problem as you for the last few day
[2017-01-03 10:03:24] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: in the advanced settings check whether hardware acceleration is enabled
[2017-01-03 10:03:24] immackay : bitmex freezing, orderbook freezing, things freezing when trying to place a trade
[2017-01-03 10:03:38] narnarfromnarnia : ok thanks
[2017-01-03 10:03:43] immackay : also on chrome on mb pro
[2017-01-03 10:03:43] narnarfromnarnia : but that's still totally jacked
[2017-01-03 10:03:49] brouk : im using safari on mb pro without glitches
[2017-01-03 10:03:57] rapidtrades : immackay: yeah froze again even without placing trades
[2017-01-03 10:04:20] immackay : rapidtrades: yeah, my orderbook keeps freezing
[2017-01-03 10:04:49] rapidtrades : everything freezes for me , even chat
[2017-01-03 10:05:21] immackay : chat freezes sometimes for me
[2017-01-03 10:05:35] immackay : only thing that doesn't freeze usually is the chart and that's a datastream from tradingview
[2017-01-03 10:05:52] immackay : (mind you the chart doesn't work at all on mobile bitmex)
[2017-01-03 10:07:30] immackay : anyways I'll leave you guys to it
[2017-01-03 10:07:35] immackay : enjoy the crash
[2017-01-03 10:07:38] immackay : bedtime for me
[2017-01-03 10:12:18] BitMEX_Arthur : immackay: Do you get a Disconnect message from BitMEX in your browser window when the orderbook freezes?
[2017-01-03 10:13:23] narnarfromnarnia : no messge just showing orderbook
[2017-01-03 10:13:29] narnarfromnarnia : as is but recent trades accurate
[2017-01-03 10:13:33] narnarfromnarnia : order book frozen
[2017-01-03 10:13:44] narnarfromnarnia : chrome no plugins or anything running
[2017-01-03 10:14:59] BitMEX_Arthur : narnarfromnarnia: Ok thanks, I will pass this onto Sam
[2017-01-03 10:15:41] narnarfromnarnia : showed same ask wall at 1017 and went clear down to 1011 or so
[2017-01-03 10:32:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2000 @ 1077.59
[2017-01-03 10:43:05] nOgAnOo : Hey friends
[2017-01-03 10:43:09] nOgAnOo : I stopped in to say high
[2017-01-03 10:43:22] nOgAnOo : Arthur can you add steem please
[2017-01-03 10:44:09] nOgAnOo : The volume is sure to increase soon with new roadmap being released and faster power downs
[2017-01-03 10:44:28] BitMEX_Wally : nOgAnOo: Hello. In order to add Steem the volume of the spot market needs to be at least $1,000,000
[2017-01-03 10:44:30] nOgAnOo : 20x market would be nice.
[2017-01-03 10:44:54] nOgAnOo : Get rid of that Ripple crap and add Steem in it's place. :)
[2017-01-03 10:45:18] nOgAnOo : I'm tired of having to cash out my steem in bittrex before I transfer here.
[2017-01-03 10:52:56] mariomarco : #pampit
[2017-01-03 11:23:11] Apocalyptic : "I stopped in to say high" nOgAnOo that was revealing
[2017-01-03 11:25:00] Apocalyptic : ES is mooning again
[2017-01-03 11:42:52] arbitrage001 : whats up with okc price distorting the index
[2017-01-03 11:46:31] narnarfromnarnia : so if we just have a 1 contract short open we get paid
[2017-01-03 11:47:14] mariomarco : narnarfromnarnia: yes funding percent * margin * contract value
[2017-01-03 11:47:34] mariomarco : fund. percent X margin X contract
[2017-01-03 11:47:41] narnarfromnarnia : i see
[2017-01-03 11:47:49] mariomarco : so opening 1 gets you nothing
[2017-01-03 11:47:55] narnarfromnarnia : so its not really worth it then unless i have a huge contract open
[2017-01-03 11:48:01] mariomarco : narnarfromnarnia: yes
[2017-01-03 11:48:06] narnarfromnarnia : but price could dip here due to that
[2017-01-03 11:48:33] mariomarco : or not rise :D until its over
[2017-01-03 11:48:34] mariomarco : yes
[2017-01-03 11:48:56] narnarfromnarnia : just need some momentum either way
[2017-01-03 11:49:01] narnarfromnarnia : no reason to play this sideways stuff
[2017-01-03 11:49:12] narnarfromnarnia : the order book glitching is also a big concern here
[2017-01-03 11:49:19] narnarfromnarnia : and the liquidity and crazy wicks
[2017-01-03 11:51:51] mariomarco : what glitchign? @narnarfromnarnia
[2017-01-03 11:52:04] narnarfromnarnia : when we last dipped down to about 1011
[2017-01-03 11:52:13] narnarfromnarnia : i had asks still showing 25k at 1017
[2017-01-03 11:52:16] narnarfromnarnia : 1-18
[2017-01-03 11:52:18] narnarfromnarnia : 1018*
[2017-01-03 11:52:26] narnarfromnarnia : yet trades going below that
[2017-01-03 11:52:39] narnarfromnarnia : refreshed and it was fine but that's total sketch
[2017-01-03 11:52:40] mariomarco : hmm
[2017-01-03 11:52:55] narnarfromnarnia : i should get trade fees at least reimbursed
[2017-01-03 11:52:57] thomaskikansha : seems not smart to short swap right now
[2017-01-03 11:53:06] narnarfromnarnia : why do you say that?
[2017-01-03 11:53:11] mariomarco : it happened to me once, because i tabbed away from browser and it sort of stuck
[2017-01-03 11:53:50] narnarfromnarnia : yeah that happened to me as well
[2017-01-03 11:53:52] narnarfromnarnia : checking xmr price
[2017-01-03 11:54:05] narnarfromnarnia : also just after my trade it went for a liquidation attempt
[2017-01-03 11:54:14] narnarfromnarnia : its really sketch to be honest
[2017-01-03 12:03:55] rowrow : someone sold into me 2 seconds after the funding ended. *shrug* free money, can't complain
[2017-01-03 12:06:51] foobar : Im just watching the youtube lessons on arbitrage strategies
[2017-01-03 12:07:07] foobar : trying to figure out, where are the XBU futures sold?
[2017-01-03 12:07:23] rowrow : xbu?
[2017-01-03 12:09:18] foobar : inverse futures
[2017-01-03 12:09:55] foobar : xbth17 is quanto right?
[2017-01-03 12:10:22] elmorte : XBU was a hedging instrument if I'm not mistaken..discontinued a while ago
[2017-01-03 12:11:38] arbitrage001 : elmorte: fee for XBU is too high
[2017-01-03 12:11:43] foobar : so are you guys typically doing arbitrage trades or just speculation?
[2017-01-03 12:12:34] elmorte : arbitrage001: never used it, that that we had daily quantos
[2017-01-03 12:12:36] arbitrage001 : foobar: what do you think
[2017-01-03 12:12:41] rowrow : kind of a mix
[2017-01-03 12:12:51] elmorte : foobar: depends if you want to gamble or not
[2017-01-03 12:13:05] rowrow : gambling is always good
[2017-01-03 12:13:16] foobar : yea, when i joined this site a few days ago i started instinctively gambling immediately
[2017-01-03 12:13:18] foobar : lost my shirt :)
[2017-01-03 12:13:25] foobar : i think it is time to start trading a bit smarter now
[2017-01-03 12:13:26] foobar : lol
[2017-01-03 12:13:51] Kalman : foobar: you may start with reading first https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTH17
[2017-01-03 12:14:21] foobar : i have been watching the bitmex ceo's youtube videos on how to do arbitrage
[2017-01-03 12:14:31] foobar : but it seems they are a bit dated since not all of the instruments are still valid
[2017-01-03 12:14:41] foobar : (videos are only 11 months old)
[2017-01-03 12:14:45] elmorte : foobar: yeah, those are from ages ago
[2017-01-03 12:14:59] elmorte : Trying reading his Crypto Digest weekly mails.
[2017-01-03 12:15:05] elmorte : Lots of good strategies in there
[2017-01-03 12:16:51] foobar : ok
[2017-01-03 12:17:06] foobar : are those available on the blog?
[2017-01-03 12:19:27] Kalman : foobar: why dont you pay an advisor ?!
[2017-01-03 12:19:55] foobar : they have those?
[2017-01-03 12:20:00] foobar : where do you find them?
[2017-01-03 12:20:31] foobar : i was interested in learning this stuff myself, but would be down with an advisor in the interim
[2017-01-03 12:20:36] BitMEX_Wally : There is a recent YouTUbe video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehDfHTa8Sg
[2017-01-03 12:20:36] Kalman : just send the btc here : 3BMEXP2jsZpgMe7Xsoh9jQ49MbDSx57cqA
[2017-01-03 12:21:20] Kalman : afterwards you can focus on what you really can!!
[2017-01-03 12:21:23] BitMEX_Wally : The articles from the weekly Crypto Trader Digest email get put on the blog after a day or so
[2017-01-03 12:23:39] Kalman : foobar: left is only to tell me what you return objective is
[2017-01-03 12:24:45] foobar : BitMEX_Wally: thanks, i will check that one out
[2017-01-03 12:35:02] rms : why look at that, the pump starts exactly when the first US wires clear at 7:30am on january 3rd
[2017-01-03 12:35:17] weather b0y4 : rms, i just opened a large long =)
[2017-01-03 12:35:23] weather b0y4 : lets hope this is as good as we think...
[2017-01-03 12:35:29] rms : happy bitcoin everyone
[2017-01-03 12:37:15] weather b0y4 : buy support looks good on almost all exchanges
[2017-01-03 12:37:39] weather b0y4 : kraken 1 euro from all time highs
[2017-01-03 12:37:44] weather b0y4 : shoud be good day =)
[2017-01-03 12:41:20] rowrow : walk away for 2 mins and price goes up $5
[2017-01-03 12:42:40] rms : it's cool, just buy more
[2017-01-03 12:42:48] rms : buy high, sell higher
[2017-01-03 12:44:01] rowrow : yeah, sounds about where bitcoin is at right now
[2017-01-03 12:45:21] rowrow : we keep getting stuck at the 1030 range past day or two
[2017-01-03 12:45:42] rms : more wires clear at 8AM and 9AM
[2017-01-03 12:45:43] narnarfromnarnia : freezing up again
[2017-01-03 12:45:44] narnarfromnarnia : :(
[2017-01-03 12:45:52] rms : if we don't break out of the range at 9AM we're fucked for a week or so
[2017-01-03 12:45:59] brouk : looking at 12 hour this should drop down
[2017-01-03 12:47:12] rowrow : anyone know how much more depth the chinese order books tend to have? obviously far more volume but hyper inflated without fees
[2017-01-03 12:47:14] foobar : i haven't really analyzed much data, but seeing bitmex price at a discount to the kaiko quote is something i haven't seen before
[2017-01-03 12:47:37] foobar : in the past couple days
[2017-01-03 12:47:48] rms : it happens whenever shorts get paid a lot
[2017-01-03 12:48:19] rowrow : it's probably above like 80% of the time, below 20%, something like that from what i've seen
[2017-01-03 12:49:10] rowrow : occasionally funding for longs will go negative
[2017-01-03 12:49:59] brouk : 1m on okc looks bloody as fk
[2017-01-03 12:50:01] brouk : lol
[2017-01-03 12:50:29] foobar : rowrow: wow, so you can get paid out on long
[2017-01-03 12:50:32] rms : anyone know how the index price for xbtcny is weighted?
[2017-01-03 12:50:32] foobar : that is amazing
[2017-01-03 12:51:15] brouk : foobar: yeah you can do that in 15 hours if the predicted rate will keep at -0.15%
[2017-01-03 12:51:27] rowrow : yeah, but average is probably like .1% or a little more for the shorters
[2017-01-03 12:52:12] rowrow : brouk: can you check okc order books without making an account?
[2017-01-03 12:52:29] brouk : rowrow: yes
[2017-01-03 12:53:37] brouk : rowrow: its public data, the depth is shown on cryptowat.ch for example
[2017-01-03 12:54:07] rowrow : brouk: thanks, yeah some of the chinese order books are pretty crazy to follow, like 5 trades a second
[2017-01-03 12:58:46] rapidtrades : hi
[2017-01-03 12:59:42] rms : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38495804
[2017-01-03 13:00:34] rapidtrades : China's currency, the renminbi, fell about 7% in value last year. Bitcoin rose 125% in value last year
[2017-01-03 13:01:00] rapidtrades : clear correlation right there
[2017-01-03 13:02:27] rapidtrades : i was reading bitcoin markets earlier and its crazy how many ppl expect 5k to 10k coins
[2017-01-03 13:02:54] rapidtrades : we're now even more retard then usual
[2017-01-03 13:03:25] Apocalyptic : crazy expectations, but this is bitcoin rapid
[2017-01-03 13:03:29] brouk : "There are currently about 15 million Bitcoins in existence."
[2017-01-03 13:03:37] brouk : aren't there 16 million already?
[2017-01-03 13:04:41] Apocalyptic : brouk: theoretically yes, but about 1M is believed to be held in satoshi's adresses, and not spendable
[2017-01-03 13:06:33] brouk : that is "lost" bitcoins?
[2017-01-03 13:07:03] Apocalyptic : brouk: it is generally treated as such, yes
[2017-01-03 13:08:11] rapidtrades : didnt we do 1 hard fork since creation? would that render them unspendable
[2017-01-03 13:09:19] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: there are not technically unspendable, it's just that no one believes he still has the keys to them or that he will be willing to spend them
[2017-01-03 13:09:45] Apocalyptic : and there was no hard fork afaik
[2017-01-03 13:10:08] rapidtrades : there was 1
[2017-01-03 13:10:14] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: when ?
[2017-01-03 13:10:34] rapidtrades : 2011? when 1 billion btc were created
[2017-01-03 13:10:35] brouk : is it possible that someday in the future we will be able to brute force the lost private keys for these bitcoins?
[2017-01-03 13:10:51] mariomarco : brouk: nope
[2017-01-03 13:10:57] brouk : mariomarco: why not?
[2017-01-03 13:10:58] rms : http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/36090/has-a-hard-fork-ever-occurred
[2017-01-03 13:11:14] mariomarco : brouk: btc is quantum computer resistant
[2017-01-03 13:11:25] mariomarco : if you could brute force a lost account you could brute any account
[2017-01-03 13:11:31] mariomarco : so yeah :D
[2017-01-03 13:11:43] mariomarco : quantum processor rather
[2017-01-03 13:11:50] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident this ?
[2017-01-03 13:11:58] rullwull : keep in mind that over 20% of bitcoins are lost, people simply loose their private keys
[2017-01-03 13:12:17] Apocalyptic : or their HD crashes and no backup
[2017-01-03 13:13:34] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: yes
[2017-01-03 13:16:19] Apocalyptic : I guess you can call it a fork
[2017-01-03 13:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60 @ 1081.07
[2017-01-03 13:18:38] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: so his coins are gone?
[2017-01-03 13:19:35] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: read what I said above
[2017-01-03 13:20:36] Apocalyptic : people just think that if he could/wanted to move them, he would have done so by now
[2017-01-03 13:21:29] tommygunn : Good Morning NA, good night china
[2017-01-03 13:23:15] tommygunn : looks like we are still in da chop
[2017-01-03 13:24:28] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: maybe he never needed them until now?
[2017-01-03 13:27:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 60000 @ 1076.57 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-03 13:32:27] Rado2 : rapidtrades: who is that rapidtrades?
[2017-01-03 13:32:57] rapidtrades : Satoshi
[2017-01-03 13:33:15] arbitrage001 : Satoshi is a god
[2017-01-03 13:33:25] arbitrage001 : he doesn't need money
[2017-01-03 13:35:01] BTCDJS : Lol
[2017-01-03 13:35:10] mariomarco : rapidtrades: can you help me out with somethign?
[2017-01-03 13:35:27] rowrow : he's waiting for the market cap to hit 1t then dump it all down to 1b and laugh at people
[2017-01-03 13:35:35] BTCDJS : No he is not a god. Don't start spreading fairy tails to noobs
[2017-01-03 13:36:12] BTCDJS : thats how religions start
[2017-01-03 13:36:42] BTCDJS : We don't need another cult
[2017-01-03 13:37:58] rapidtrades : http://www.christianitytoday.com/satoshi-jesus-himself
[2017-01-03 13:38:15] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: the link above says ur WRONG
[2017-01-03 13:39:14] BTCDJS : Error page. Cannot find what you're looking for
[2017-01-03 13:39:46] BTCDJS : So ner ner ner ner ner
[2017-01-03 13:40:12] rapidtrades : http://news.forexlive.com/!/gm-motors-in-the-trump-firing-line-20170103
[2017-01-03 13:40:15] rapidtrades : try that one ^
[2017-01-03 13:40:54] BTCDJS : Wat?
[2017-01-03 13:41:05] BTCDJS : You trying to hack me?
[2017-01-03 13:41:13] BTCDJS : What is this shit?
[2017-01-03 13:41:54] mutato : Bitcoin is dead, Satoshi is the drowned god
[2017-01-03 13:41:58] Apocalyptic : rapid is the most feared hacker in the trollbox, don't just trust his links
[2017-01-03 13:41:59] mutato : What Is Dead May Never Die
[2017-01-03 13:45:33] laisee : Satoshi is code, now and forever
[2017-01-03 13:46:12] BTCDJS : OMG a cult is starting
[2017-01-03 13:46:27] laisee : blasphemy!
[2017-01-03 13:46:40] laisee : cast out the unbelievers ...
[2017-01-03 13:47:00] narnarfromnarnia : why can't we see the current mark price?
[2017-01-03 13:47:09] narnarfromnarnia : even without a position open we should be able to see that no?
[2017-01-03 13:47:28] BTCDJS : Bow down to the steem god. His deciple was here preaching yesterday
[2017-01-03 13:47:42] Apocalyptic : BTCDJS: lol
[2017-01-03 13:47:54] BTCDJS : he will and should defeat the bitcoin god apparently
[2017-01-03 13:47:58] Apocalyptic : I wonder why he's pumpim that alt
[2017-01-03 13:48:29] BTCDJS : he gets 200 a week and he wants to sell them to people
[2017-01-03 13:48:38] BTCDJS : or something like that
[2017-01-03 13:48:44] laisee : pimpimg to an audience of few humdred traders ... wasted effort
[2017-01-03 13:48:45] Apocalyptic : finex below bearstamp
[2017-01-03 13:48:49] rapidtrades : narnarfromnarnia: mark proce is right there in middle, hover over shit