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[2017-01-02 17:33:19] BTCDJS : just wanted clarification because he said "she wants to trade here"
[2017-01-02 17:40:55] BitMEX_Greg : BTCDJS: Am here, apologies for delay
[2017-01-02 17:42:39] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: Ive lost access to my clef account. Is there any chance I can create a new one with clef but change the email and other requirements for clef sign in on my account?
[2017-01-02 17:45:33] BitMEX_Greg : BTCDJS: Unsure of this. Can you please email support and I'll have Sam take a look
[2017-01-02 17:45:40] BTCDJS : ok
[2017-01-02 17:50:01] Naloxone : I think ETH will hit 0.1 within 24 hours
[2017-01-02 17:52:37] youknowit : Naloxone: yeah it's been down far too long
[2017-01-02 17:53:25] Naloxone : youknowit: did you hedge your BTC long with ETH long?
[2017-01-02 17:53:35] youknowit : yes
[2017-01-02 17:53:48] youknowit : but they might both go up
[2017-01-02 17:56:37] youknowit : funding rate is of the full borrowed value right?
[2017-01-02 17:57:48] Naloxone : Eth may go up together with BTC, but not much, up to like 0.89. But a noticeable BTC drop most likely will start an ETH bull run to 0.01 and beyond
[2017-01-02 17:58:39] aethlios : anyone can answer eth questions? after POS what will be the inflation? how much you can earn with staking??
[2017-01-02 17:59:25] BetterNick : youknowit: correct
[2017-01-02 18:00:09] youknowit : china breaking 7400 again
[2017-01-02 18:02:30] alejandromasari : SHORTS GET BIT REXED
[2017-01-02 18:02:43] alejandromasari : They fuel this rally
[2017-01-02 18:03:17] MikeHunt : shorted from 1030 to 1026
[2017-01-02 18:03:24] Naloxone : aethlios: I don't think it's known yet. There is no particular date of switching to POS.. I read it can happen after 2020
[2017-01-02 18:03:26] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: that's peanuts
[2017-01-02 18:03:32] youknowit : just wait until 7500
[2017-01-02 18:03:50] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yeh, just a minor confidence building exercise ;)
[2017-01-02 18:04:08] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: good job man. but you need to ride trends not pick up pennies
[2017-01-02 18:04:31] hobolowbo : newbie question - if BTCUSD price is 1150 at Mar 31st, would the future settle at 1150? cause i see it's already at 1090...
[2017-01-02 18:08:31] blurrrrrp : hobolowbo: No, the future will settle at whatever the price is at mar 31.
[2017-01-02 18:08:46] blurrrrrp : That can be $1500, can be $500..
[2017-01-02 18:09:21] bingbongfly : hobolowbo: correct
[2017-01-02 18:10:20] hobolowbo : bingbongfly: so the extra price compared to the current spot price is intrinsic premium added?
[2017-01-02 18:10:41] hobolowbo : bingbongfly: ie 1090 is the premium paid for time for the current spot price of 1024?
[2017-01-02 18:11:34] blackwhite : right
[2017-01-02 18:11:44] hobolowbo : got ya
[2017-01-02 18:11:47] blackwhite : it's current ptemium
[2017-01-02 18:11:59] hobolowbo : is there a calculator that can help me figure out the margin requirement and bust price in which i'd be liquidated?
[2017-01-02 18:11:59] blackwhite : guys so everyone here pretty sure we go to 980?
[2017-01-02 18:12:43] justinlooking : 9800 cny ?
[2017-01-02 18:12:56] blackwhite : there is a calculator icon near "Place ORder" @hobolowbo
[2017-01-02 18:13:25] blackwhite : nope, 980 pieces of freedom paper
[2017-01-02 18:13:25] hobolowbo : blackwhite: ya but it's only a PNL calc... no margin requirement and bust price
[2017-01-02 18:13:34] youknowit : yeah we are going to 9800 cny blackwhite
[2017-01-02 18:14:04] hobolowbo : sorry to hijack the convo but seriously 9800 CNY?!
[2017-01-02 18:14:22] hobolowbo : the equivalent of 1400 USD???
[2017-01-02 18:14:25] blackwhite : hobolowbo: you can see margin req as "cost" under buy/sell button when you enter your quantity
[2017-01-02 18:15:06] blackwhite : Liq price is shown for my open positions, however I wouldn't trust it 100%, very approximate
[2017-01-02 18:15:13] justinlooking : hobolowbo: was joking
[2017-01-02 18:15:14] justinlooking : sort of
[2017-01-02 18:15:21] hobolowbo : blackwhite: do i need that cost in addition to the BTC i'll need to buy the contracts or is equity counted towards mx requirements
[2017-01-02 18:15:21] hobolowbo : ?
[2017-01-02 18:15:38] hobolowbo : justinlooking: oh lol im dumb
[2017-01-02 18:15:49] justinlooking : that or i'm not funny ;)
[2017-01-02 18:15:58] blackwhite : you need to conform to margin requirement, yeah
[2017-01-02 18:16:07] hobolowbo : justinlooking: i hope your joke becomes reality, let's just say that :-P
[2017-01-02 18:16:16] blackwhite : read about the contracts here
[2017-01-02 18:16:31] youknowit : market making here even manually is lucrative
[2017-01-02 18:16:49] blackwhite : so, besides one joker, we all go to 980. He/she goes to 1400. OK, move guys
[2017-01-02 18:17:29] hobolowbo : blackwhite: 980 USD?
[2017-01-02 18:17:53] justinlooking : blackwhite: thy will be rekt
[2017-01-02 18:18:20] blackwhite : ah why do you think i'm short?
[2017-01-02 18:18:27] blackwhite : maybe I want to add LOL
[2017-01-02 18:18:56] MikeHunt : 1030 me thinks
[2017-01-02 18:18:59] MikeHunt : then who knows
[2017-01-02 18:19:35] hobolowbo : fwiw i think spot price will go to the ATH by the end of the week
[2017-01-02 18:20:11] hobolowbo : what are you guys referring to? the prepetual swap or the Mar 31st?
[2017-01-02 18:20:45] blackwhite : I'm about swap. The future's premium is hard to predict I think
[2017-01-02 18:21:19] blackwhite : obviuosly it's always here azt premium, but whether it's 40 or 100 usd depends on demand and supply
[2017-01-02 18:22:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1000 @ 7727.8
[2017-01-02 18:22:29] javierstone : whoopsies
[2017-01-02 18:22:39] blackwhite : Oh btw I didn't tried this new XBC yet
[2017-01-02 18:22:47] blackwhite : Is liquidity good there?
[2017-01-02 18:23:21] aethlios : china premium 40 usd, they pump hard.
[2017-01-02 18:23:30] hobolowbo : why is going long on ant XBT Mar 31st shows no bold white line?
[2017-01-02 18:23:34] hobolowbo : no matter what qty i put
[2017-01-02 18:23:41] hobolowbo : even qty that exists in the book
[2017-01-02 18:24:18] blackwhite : Dunno, it does for me. Maybe you have already gone long as much as your acc can
[2017-01-02 18:24:37] hobolowbo : blackwhite: i think i was stupid and had too low of a price
[2017-01-02 18:24:45] javierstone : kraken jsut added monero
[2017-01-02 18:24:47] javierstone : 16.00
[2017-01-02 18:25:06] blackwhite : Actually it does white line even for crazy qty, just buttons are disabled
[2017-01-02 18:26:45] alejandromasari : we need more shorts on bitcoin
[2017-01-02 18:29:41] blackwhite : yeah especially with yuan )
[2017-01-02 18:30:12] blackwhite : to put things fair
[2017-01-02 18:32:37] $$ : Xmr wow
[2017-01-02 18:34:13] youknowit : if xmr can go up this much so can eth
[2017-01-02 18:34:21] shiroe : damn, 4hr 10 straight green candles.
[2017-01-02 18:38:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 60 @ 0.015483
[2017-01-02 18:42:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 706 @ 0.015295
[2017-01-02 18:44:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1059 @ 1024.99
[2017-01-02 18:44:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 29 @ 1023.72
[2017-01-02 18:44:32] youknowit : why are people dumping on bitfinex
[2017-01-02 18:44:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: sell 12 @ 118943
[2017-01-02 18:45:30] BTCDJS : youknowit: you know why
[2017-01-02 18:47:10] MikeHunt : huobi still going strong
[2017-01-02 18:48:32] aethlios : china holds it up, premium yuan in usd now high 42 usd
[2017-01-02 18:49:23] BTCDJS : aethlios: so now you are bullish?
[2017-01-02 18:49:42] BTCDJS : not judging just asking
[2017-01-02 18:50:27] aethlios : BTCDJS: no I sold my btc longs, wait 720-740.
[2017-01-02 18:51:05] PARAFFIN : wut are we dumping?
[2017-01-02 18:52:19] youknowit : say you went 1x short btcusd, since your collateral is btc, that means you are basically just in usd and collecting the funding rate?
[2017-01-02 18:53:10] aethlios : BTCDJS: https://www.tradingview.com/x/hjUb2VsI/ targets to the down are 852, 779, 704
[2017-01-02 18:53:26] aethlios : watch the trend line.
[2017-01-02 18:55:10] aethlios : BTCDJS: I see a nice buy for ETH, could be a bargain here. oversold and possible bottom
[2017-01-02 18:55:11] BTCDJS : aethlios: yeah I have a pitchfork set up. If it breaks the trend line 50-60% retracehttps://www.coinigy.com/s/i/586aa1dd/
[2017-01-02 18:55:29] BTCDJS : aethlios: thanks Ill check it out
[2017-01-02 18:55:44] shiroe : go under 1k! you you.
[2017-01-02 18:56:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 45000 @ 1022.33
[2017-01-02 18:56:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 13847 @ 1021.57
[2017-01-02 18:58:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 147 @ 1020.75
[2017-01-02 18:59:20] aethlios : BTCDJS: https://www.tradingview.com/x/XSWyd09r/ ethbtc, watch the trendline, very oversold coin.
[2017-01-02 19:00:17] gusi : BTCDJS: got the same lines as you
[2017-01-02 19:00:36] PARAFFIN : aethlios: so bitcoin going down you say?
[2017-01-02 19:00:47] BTCDJS : gusi: maybe the lines fooled us both into believing in them
[2017-01-02 19:00:55] BTCDJS : PARAFFIN: no up
[2017-01-02 19:01:03] Headroom : no big reaction again because -5$ for btc ?
[2017-01-02 19:01:30] PARAFFIN : BTCDJS: but @aethlios targeted 720
[2017-01-02 19:01:40] aethlios : PARAFFIN: I can't say that, I don't short, try to buy dumps and sell rallies.
[2017-01-02 19:01:41] MikeHunt : huobi on the march
[2017-01-02 19:01:58] youknowit : here to save the day
[2017-01-02 19:02:59] aethlios : I was long from 575, posting bullish charts, I sold march 1000 to hedge the long and earn the premium, now wait 720-740, maybe open a long to eth while waiting, but I don't short btc.
[2017-01-02 19:04:33] BTCDJS : aethlios: Bullish TK cross on ETH 15min cloud setting 20,60,120,30
[2017-01-02 19:04:33] MikeHunt : aethlios: so what do you buy instead of shorting?
[2017-01-02 19:05:08] BTCDJS : aethlios: price moving through cloud
[2017-01-02 19:05:15] aethlios : maybe eth, but it is not bad to stay out of the market for a while.
[2017-01-02 19:05:42] MikeHunt : aethlios: just hold btc?
[2017-01-02 19:06:05] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: no mike
[2017-01-02 19:06:13] aethlios : MikeHunt: hold usd, holding btc is a btc long position
[2017-01-02 19:06:30] MikeHunt : just wondering why you'd not just short instead of holding usd?
[2017-01-02 19:06:54] Naloxone : aethlios: why you don't short BTC with low leverage and tight stops?
[2017-01-02 19:07:00] aethlios : MikeHunt: or hold btc spot and sell march and earn a decent 6.5% 3month deposit interest while waiting for a better entry.
[2017-01-02 19:07:39] aethlios : Naloxone: because can go much more up, infinite loss when you short.
[2017-01-02 19:08:20] MikeHunt : aethlios: which exchange do you use to hold usd in?
[2017-01-02 19:09:12] aethlios : MikeHunt: you can use bitmex, create a synthetic usd position. deposit here btc and open equivalent short to the swap or march
[2017-01-02 19:10:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1100 @ 1019.91
[2017-01-02 19:11:32] MikeHunt : aethlios: short the perp. swap?
[2017-01-02 19:13:12] Turbo : lots of money long today
[2017-01-02 19:13:17] aethlios : MikeHunt: or the march xbth17 contract. and you can deposit only 20% here and keep 80% to cold storage, but always transfer for adequate margin. if you have now 100k in usd you can earn 6.5% for 3 months while waiting for a correction
[2017-01-02 19:14:22] MikeHunt : 6.5% by going long in 3month?
[2017-01-02 19:14:51] aethlios : MikeHunt: don't you read what i write??
[2017-01-02 19:15:05] sleger : aethlios: if you have 100$ you can also earn 6.5% for 3 months
[2017-01-02 19:15:12] sleger : amount is irrelevant
[2017-01-02 19:15:32] aethlios : i don't have 100$, but i have 100K$
[2017-01-02 19:15:54] sleger : i'm pretty sure if you have 100k$ you also have 100$...
[2017-01-02 19:16:06] Headroom : hahahaha
[2017-01-02 19:16:07] MikeHunt : aethlios: i read it all im just wondering how to implement that though, i know about perp. swap just not familar with the others
[2017-01-02 19:16:30] sleger : aethlios: I apologize
[2017-01-02 19:16:35] sleger : you probably just wanted to brag
[2017-01-02 19:16:37] sleger : and I ruined it
[2017-01-02 19:17:00] aethlios : MikeHunt: can't explain it better.
[2017-01-02 19:17:17] sleger : MikeHunt: apparently you need 100k$
[2017-01-02 19:17:23] sleger : otherwise it doesnt work
[2017-01-02 19:17:41] MikeHunt : aethlios: did you mean go long or short in the xbth17 market though?
[2017-01-02 19:17:50] aethlios : MikeHunt: short.
[2017-01-02 19:18:21] aethlios : 65 usd premium is 6.4% now
[2017-01-02 19:18:43] MikeHunt : aethlios: and hold til 31st march?
[2017-01-02 19:18:58] MikeHunt : errr, just til correction?
[2017-01-02 19:19:59] aethlios : MikeHunt: you have 1020 usd, you can buy 1 btc, then deposit to bitmex and sell 1087 contracts in march. keep until 31 march. and you will earn 6.5% at expiration
[2017-01-02 19:20:15] sleger : see, no need for 100k
[2017-01-02 19:20:32] aethlios : made a 67 usd profit
[2017-01-02 19:20:58] MikeHunt : aethlios: do you consider where we are to be the top?
[2017-01-02 19:21:01] aethlios : this is a synthetic usd deposit
[2017-01-02 19:21:48] aethlios : MikeHunt: I don't know the tops, I just like oversold price levels and dislike overbought price levels.
[2017-01-02 19:22:06] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: RSI
[2017-01-02 19:22:23] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: yeh, my old friend RSI
[2017-01-02 19:22:36] aethlios : so btc could rally to 2,000 and then crash 1,200 and if 1,200 is oversold i will buy. (even if it is higher than now)
[2017-01-02 19:23:03] aethlios : I use MFI, i prefer it from rsi, considers volume also
[2017-01-02 19:24:01] MikeHunt : before i got here and messed up I used to use RSI a lot, wasnt very efficient but made ~$1.5k
[2017-01-02 19:24:15] MikeHunt : with a mixture of chart patterns as well
[2017-01-02 19:24:38] aethlios : for example the crash to 465 because of an irrelevant event (finex hack) was an oversold bargain buy, so 480-530 was a good buy zone.
[2017-01-02 19:25:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XMR7D`: buy 100 @ 0.015695
[2017-01-02 19:25:05] moo : why is stamp so low?????
[2017-01-02 19:25:32] MikeHunt : moo: apparently its same reason mtgox was almost always higher
[2017-01-02 19:25:37] MikeHunt : moo: manipulation
[2017-01-02 19:29:58] MikeHunt : aethlios: yeh i remember riding that one down, it behaved really weird as bitfinex crashed and reopened, the price dropped to 650 then as bitfinex reopened it went to 700 and promptly back down
[2017-01-02 19:30:26] MikeHunt : i guess they just didnt trust em with cash withdrawal
[2017-01-02 19:35:11] sleger : so the index is the average of stamp at 1010 and okc usd at 1030, seems very stable...
[2017-01-02 19:37:03] BTCDJS : By the by. The two most secure exchanges in my opinion is BitMEX and Poloniex. Very good security.
[2017-01-02 19:38:09] sleger : why do you think polo is safer than finex ?
[2017-01-02 19:38:17] aethlios : china premium 44, they hold the price, west is selling.
[2017-01-02 19:39:16] rullwull : polo is suck, better stay away of it. the most secure is btce
[2017-01-02 19:40:51] Naloxone : rullwull: yep, russian tech
[2017-01-02 19:42:40] BTCDJS : sleger: I recently lost my 2FA and it was a bitch for me to get back in because of what they wanted. They want email confirmation for everything and if you have 2FA enabled they want that code for withdrawals API Everything! Its very secure IMO. I sent them a photo of me with drivers licence even before they asked and they told me to delete all traces incase hackers can get into my email and exploit me. That tells me they are security conscious all the time. You have to log into support emails. Its tight!
[2017-01-02 19:43:05] BTCDJS : No hacker is getting in that exchange
[2017-01-02 19:43:27] orly : they got hacked a few years back afaik
[2017-01-02 19:43:36] orly : but handled it professionally from what i hear
[2017-01-02 19:43:44] BTCDJS : orly: well they've upped their game
[2017-01-02 19:43:47] sleger : they have so many vector attacks because of all the altcoins they accept
[2017-01-02 19:44:32] youknowit : go huobi
[2017-01-02 19:44:46] orly : to be fair, with the history of finex, it's not hard for any exchange to be more trustworthy than that
[2017-01-02 19:45:14] BTCDJS : like I say security conscious. Telling me to delete and not send sensitive info unless prompted under secure channels straight away is phenomenal in my eyes
[2017-01-02 19:45:32] cryptobull : freefall coming
[2017-01-02 19:46:10] aethlios : MM for march will dissapear like hundini when crash happens
[2017-01-02 19:46:35] orly : BTCDJS: i'm generally more worried about exchanges running off with my money than hackers
[2017-01-02 19:46:58] $$ : $64 premium. will get to around $40-$45 on crash
[2017-01-02 19:47:22] $$ : i'm short 100x from 1100. up 186% right now. freefall plz
[2017-01-02 19:47:30] BTCDJS : orly: yeah me too. Still not a good idea to keep most funds on exchanges. But at least that is the only thing to worry about with polo
[2017-01-02 19:47:59] aethlios : $$: 10 usd, market will understand that consolidation will follow, so no new rally for 3-4 months
[2017-01-02 19:48:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1018.07
[2017-01-02 19:48:22] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 284995 @ 1018.07 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-01-02 19:48:27] $$ : wow big rekt
[2017-01-02 19:48:36] $$ : dont long the top kids
[2017-01-02 19:48:54] shiroe : ouch
[2017-01-02 19:48:55] $$ : aethlios: yeah i dont think buying bulls want to break ATH. and instead accumulate lower
[2017-01-02 19:48:59] shiroe : lmfao
[2017-01-02 19:49:02] brouk : that hurts
[2017-01-02 19:49:08] moo : i think longing here is good
[2017-01-02 19:49:49] Naloxone : moo: if you want to get rekt
[2017-01-02 19:49:55] rullwull : too early for longs, its just starting to drop
[2017-01-02 19:49:58] MikeHunt : this is clearly overbought
[2017-01-02 19:50:09] aethlios : 14 millions open interest to margin call
[2017-01-02 19:50:25] shiroe : rekt before funding. lol
[2017-01-02 19:51:01] aethlios : let's start rekt fishing
[2017-01-02 19:51:18] MikeHunt : if the bots can caress gently to 1k then we might be able to continue
[2017-01-02 19:51:25] shiroe : there are some bi gfish flying up there.
[2017-01-02 19:51:36] shiroe : whale wanna be eagle.
[2017-01-02 19:52:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20000 @ 1017.25
[2017-01-02 19:52:30] MikeHunt : shiroe: http://www.asset1.net/tv/pictures/movie/free-willy-1993/freewilly-KA-1.jpg
[2017-01-02 19:52:43] MikeHunt : like that?
[2017-01-02 19:54:25] sleger : 48$ premium on china now great
[2017-01-02 19:54:37] moo : whats a premium
[2017-01-02 19:54:44] sleger : a negative discount
[2017-01-02 19:55:06] aethlios : sleger: I use 50% stamp, 50% finex as west usd, shows me 43 usd premium
[2017-01-02 19:55:46] sleger : i did finex vs huobi
[2017-01-02 19:55:49] rms : China premium cause us banks are closed... fresh fiat hits tomorrow
[2017-01-02 19:56:19] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLySXTIBS3c change to btc
[2017-01-02 19:56:35] shiroe : timber?
[2017-01-02 19:56:44] MikeHunt : if you hold xbth17 for a while do you still get a premium in march or do you have to hold the whole way?
[2017-01-02 19:57:11] MikeHunt : (whole to march31st)*
[2017-01-02 19:57:31] MrRGnome : the premium isn't static, could turn intoa discount immediately or never
[2017-01-02 19:57:33] $$ : the old quarterly had a small premium up to the final days
[2017-01-02 19:57:37] $$ : but that was because btc was pumping
[2017-01-02 19:59:26] blackwhite : MikeHunt: Mike, it depends on the premium values when you entered and exited the trade. You can easily be in loss if you sell at lower premium then you buy.
[2017-01-02 20:00:11] $$ : dang that scared me
[2017-01-02 20:00:18] $$ : trading was suspended for a second
[2017-01-02 20:00:53] rowrow : every 8 hours, funding
[2017-01-02 20:01:02] MikeHunt : blackwhite: supposing you shorted/longed in the right direction, would you have to hold your position til mar31 or could you hold for a period and still collect interest?
[2017-01-02 20:01:08] PARAFFIN : REKT:
[2017-01-02 20:01:32] blackwhite : you can close whenever you want
[2017-01-02 20:01:36] aethlios : DROP THE BOMB
[2017-01-02 20:01:48] MikeHunt : blackwhite: would i still get premium in march though?
[2017-01-02 20:01:59] Naloxone : longs are double f*ucked now. short term down trend + large funding
[2017-01-02 20:02:00] blackwhite : you will get one premium and pay another one
[2017-01-02 20:02:09] rowrow : how does the liquidation here work? it shows up for a few seconds and then smashes against the other side?
[2017-01-02 20:02:30] blackwhite : which premium is better, the one you get or the one you pay, depends on the timing of entering posiition and closing it
[2017-01-02 20:02:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 202951 @ 1013.25 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-01-02 20:02:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200 @ 1013.35
[2017-01-02 20:02:58] $$ : ouch 202k
[2017-01-02 20:03:00] $$ : who are these people
[2017-01-02 20:03:10] sleger : small fishes
[2017-01-02 20:03:27] Naloxone : wow, 2 REKTosauruses within 30 min
[2017-01-02 20:03:38] aethlios : no hostages allowd.
[2017-01-02 20:03:40] MikeHunt : blackwhite: so if i opened and closed at a loss now i could get raped in mar31 ?
[2017-01-02 20:03:50] sleger : no
[2017-01-02 20:03:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1012.91
[2017-01-02 20:04:08] sleger : if you close there is no raping on mar31
[2017-01-02 20:04:14] aethlios : MikeHunt: you need to study some books immediately.
[2017-01-02 20:04:24] Gekko : 975 here we come
[2017-01-02 20:04:27] blackwhite : MikeHunt: depends on what is a rape... there isn't riskless trade
[2017-01-02 20:04:35] PARAFFIN : should i sell now?
[2017-01-02 20:04:50] $$ : this is just chop
[2017-01-02 20:04:57] PARAFFIN : or just hold?
[2017-01-02 20:05:03] $$ : unless china starts market dumping 100's of cny
[2017-01-02 20:05:13] sleger : PARAFFIN: are you seriously asking a trollbox what to do with your money ?
[2017-01-02 20:05:27] $$ : just long xmr
[2017-01-02 20:05:27] sleger : that would be as dumb as listening to some alejandro guy or something
[2017-01-02 20:05:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 165 @ 1012.20
[2017-01-02 20:05:41] PARAFFIN : sleger: uhmm
[2017-01-02 20:05:44] $$ : seems the n00bs play XBTUSD
[2017-01-02 20:05:44] Naloxone : PARAFFIN: it won't stop going down anytime soom
[2017-01-02 20:05:44] rowrow : big one
[2017-01-02 20:05:49] MikeHunt : im trying to work out if i short this sucessfully, do i need to short til mar31 or can i buy again when it corrects and still get premium?
[2017-01-02 20:05:51] $$ : no XBTH17 rekts yet
[2017-01-02 20:06:01] $$ : mikehunt it works just like swap
[2017-01-02 20:06:05] $$ : just no funding
[2017-01-02 20:06:09] blackwhite : MikeHunt: you never know which is better to do
[2017-01-02 20:06:12] $$ : and it settles on march 31
[2017-01-02 20:06:21] MikeHunt : blackwhite: well im shorting and making $$
[2017-01-02 20:06:21] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2017-01-02 20:06:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20825 @ 1011.00
[2017-01-02 20:06:39] MikeHunt : blackwhite: i just want to know if i close and make profit, do i still get premium in mar31 ?
[2017-01-02 20:06:49] blackwhite : no, closed is closed
[2017-01-02 20:07:05] blackwhite : you closed = someone else opened
[2017-01-02 20:07:18] BTCDJS : sleger: alejandro guy? from twitter?
[2017-01-02 20:07:26] sleger : MikeHunt: there is no premium to get on mar31
[2017-01-02 20:07:28] gusi : for all the new people here, never trade based on others opinion. everyone can say what they want, but actually a lot of people here don't actually know what they are talking about. have your own strategy and do a bit of research before opening positions. avoid fomo trading and don't let your decisions get driven by other people
[2017-01-02 20:07:32] sleger : there isnt any funding fee
[2017-01-02 20:07:43] MikeHunt : sleger: apparently it was 6.4% ?
[2017-01-02 20:07:46] sleger : BTCDJS: the guy who showed up yesterday the "wall st" guy
[2017-01-02 20:07:51] sleger : MikeHunt: no
[2017-01-02 20:07:52] BTCDJS : oh
[2017-01-02 20:07:54] Gekko : If 1000 goes is goodnight nurse....
[2017-01-02 20:07:57] sleger : you dont understand how it works @MikeHunt
[2017-01-02 20:08:19] MikeHunt : sleger: im just going by what aethlios said
[2017-01-02 20:08:32] BTCDJS : PARAFFIN: dude seriously. Stop trading
[2017-01-02 20:08:51] BTCDJS : you're going to go bankrupt
[2017-01-02 20:09:14] $$ : how are there still over 5 million xbth17 contracts. lets get some movement and rekt the longs
[2017-01-02 20:09:32] bingbongfly : $$: dude we have 100x here on bitmex. 200k can be just 20 btc
[2017-01-02 20:09:49] $$ : bingbongfly: dude you can only long like 1.5 BTC max on 100x
[2017-01-02 20:10:01] bingbongfly : $$: really? Havn't seen that rule
[2017-01-02 20:10:10] $$ : risk limit = 200 XBT
[2017-01-02 20:10:13] $$ : on 100x
[2017-01-02 20:10:19] bingbongfly : $$: which means?
[2017-01-02 20:10:27] $$ : you can only short 200 btc on 100x
[2017-01-02 20:10:27] sleger : $$: you can open many accounts
[2017-01-02 20:10:38] $$ : yeah but 1 margin call of 200k isnt on 100x
[2017-01-02 20:10:38] MikeHunt : supposing you were shorting from 1100, would you use a lot of leverage?
[2017-01-02 20:10:44] bingbongfly : sleger: yes but we were talking about margin call
[2017-01-02 20:10:55] sleger : bingbongfly: doesnt change waht i said
[2017-01-02 20:10:59] $$ : maybe it is i should do the math
[2017-01-02 20:11:16] $$ : but it is high leverage
[2017-01-02 20:11:17] bingbongfly : sleger: you can't get margincalled across account lol
[2017-01-02 20:11:23] gustavo7 : OH BOY
[2017-01-02 20:11:25] sleger : bingbongfly: of course not dummy
[2017-01-02 20:11:25] $$ : alts pumping. btc dumping
[2017-01-02 20:11:27] $$ : here we goooooooo
[2017-01-02 20:11:30] moo : i am long 1030
[2017-01-02 20:11:31] moo : what should i do
[2017-01-02 20:11:31] bingbongfly : sleger: exactly, dummy
[2017-01-02 20:11:35] mariomarco : sleger: alejandro is on point dude, shoulda listene
[2017-01-02 20:11:49] sleger : what did he say ?
[2017-01-02 20:11:54] sleger : to go long
[2017-01-02 20:11:54] mariomarco : listeneded'd
[2017-01-02 20:12:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 150000 @ 1003.79 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-02 20:12:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 57376 @ 1003.73 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-02 20:12:20] Naloxone : moo: what is your liquidation price?
[2017-01-02 20:12:23] BTCDJS : he said insta pump to 1100
[2017-01-02 20:12:26] flux : daym
[2017-01-02 20:12:31] BTCDJS : Insta
[2017-01-02 20:12:32] moo : 980
[2017-01-02 20:12:36] moo : you think it will hold?
[2017-01-02 20:12:38] sleger : BTCDJS: so he failed again ?
[2017-01-02 20:12:46] sleger : how surprising
[2017-01-02 20:12:53] $$ : damn more big rekts on xbtusd
[2017-01-02 20:12:56] mariomarco : sleger: go long then short
[2017-01-02 20:12:58] BTCDJS : sleger: no cause people gave him their money?
[2017-01-02 20:13:09] cryptomad : 1000
[2017-01-02 20:13:13] sleger : BTCDJS: true, that's how some people live
[2017-01-02 20:13:17] Naloxone : moo: It may
[2017-01-02 20:13:17] cryptomad : come come
[2017-01-02 20:13:21] cryptomad : we waiting
[2017-01-02 20:13:23] sleger : mariomarco: lol
[2017-01-02 20:13:26] sleger : here is another:
[2017-01-02 20:13:27] anduck : rekt! rekt!
[2017-01-02 20:13:30] sleger : go short then long
[2017-01-02 20:13:35] sleger : at some point it will look like im right
[2017-01-02 20:13:45] $$ : bitfinex dumping
[2017-01-02 20:14:01] BTCDJS : ETH
[2017-01-02 20:14:01] $$ : xbth17 big wall. protecting a long
[2017-01-02 20:14:06] cryptomad : Bitstamp also 993.45
[2017-01-02 20:14:22] Naloxone : moo: Or may not. close it now if it is your liquadation price
[2017-01-02 20:14:29] cryptomad : okcoin.cn is 7300
[2017-01-02 20:14:36] cryptobull : mark price way too high
[2017-01-02 20:14:42] rapidtrades : You can't run but you can hide
[2017-01-02 20:14:43] ayy_lmao : omg
[2017-01-02 20:14:44] cryptomad : (okcoin)
[2017-01-02 20:14:47] ayy_lmao : can bitmex every fucking follow
[2017-01-02 20:14:48] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2017-01-02 20:14:49] bingbongfly : ETC margincall?
[2017-01-02 20:15:13] $$ : lol @ people dumping hopefully this goes low enough so they can buy in cheaper
[2017-01-02 20:15:34] Gekko : 975
[2017-01-02 20:15:35] rowrow : well, other exchanges are $5-10 lower
[2017-01-02 20:15:36] aethlios : eth rallies, told you............
[2017-01-02 20:15:39] rapidtrades : People are dumping cos the end is nigh
[2017-01-02 20:16:09] cryptobull : dafuq bitmex prices
[2017-01-02 20:16:10] aethlios : pivot eth price 0.009
[2017-01-02 20:16:12] $$ : random china pump
[2017-01-02 20:16:20] Gekko : abandon hope....all is lost
[2017-01-02 20:16:33] rapidtrades : what are these bitmex idiots trying to do? u can't hold the market on ur own
[2017-01-02 20:16:37] anduck : rekt! rekt! rekt!
[2017-01-02 20:16:57] tommygunn : how can you not manage 200k-500k postions is beyond me
[2017-01-02 20:16:59] $$ : fucking china
[2017-01-02 20:17:00] BTCDJS : ETH!!!
[2017-01-02 20:17:12] $$ : bottom shorters screwed
[2017-01-02 20:17:23] ayy_lmao : omg
[2017-01-02 20:17:36] $$ : many fake outs in this dump. hold strong shorters
[2017-01-02 20:18:12] cryptobull : strange that the mark price was so high here
[2017-01-02 20:18:20] rapidtrades : China the WHORE is still not giving up the dream
[2017-01-02 20:18:31] sleger : cryptobull: maybe look what the index is ?
[2017-01-02 20:18:46] raisetheblade : BTCDJS: Thanks again for the TA knowledge! Its like night and day :)
[2017-01-02 20:18:48] rowrow : i guess i need to save some liquidity on other exchanges next time, thought it was going back up but risky when the price is so much higher than bitfin+bitstamp+coinbase
[2017-01-02 20:18:58] cryptobull : meh index is rigge
[2017-01-02 20:19:11] BTCDJS : cryptobull: Index is Bitstamp and 0kcoin
[2017-01-02 20:19:15] BTCDJS : 50/50
[2017-01-02 20:19:20] $$ : lol china. pumping like crazy
[2017-01-02 20:19:24] BTCDJS : used to include finex
[2017-01-02 20:19:31] $$ : no one actually wants to sell i guess
[2017-01-02 20:19:32] rapidtrades : china desperate
[2017-01-02 20:19:33] rullwull : BTCC 3280, OKC 7356
[2017-01-02 20:19:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 150 @ 1014.48
[2017-01-02 20:19:47] rullwull : BTCC 7280
[2017-01-02 20:19:48] anduck : rekt!!!! i wanna rektt
[2017-01-02 20:20:01] anduck : come on 1017, are u serious?
[2017-01-02 20:20:06] BTCDJS : raisetheblade: What TA knowledge?
[2017-01-02 20:20:09] tommygunn : REKT:
[2017-01-02 20:20:15] tommygunn : hpld that short
[2017-01-02 20:20:16] shiroe : lmfao dance with the waves.
[2017-01-02 20:20:26] anduck : @tommygunn time to explain the "anduck is scammer" thing?
[2017-01-02 20:20:30] m3s : missed this logged in too late lol
[2017-01-02 20:20:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 67724 @ 1015.88 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-02 20:21:09] tommygunn : just spewing rubbish in a tro;ll box like yourself
[2017-01-02 20:21:20] anduck : right
[2017-01-02 20:21:31] rapidtrades : almost $20 reversal on btce
[2017-01-02 20:21:45] tommygunn : you said eth is scam with no evidence to back it up
[2017-01-02 20:21:46] rapidtrades : crazy retards buying every dip
[2017-01-02 20:21:51] Rado2 : this volatility is great :-)
[2017-01-02 20:22:00] raisetheblade : BTCDJS: You sent me a link to #SatoshiMoku a little while back
[2017-01-02 20:22:01] rapidtrades : this isn't the sp500 morons...ur just ensuring a crash
[2017-01-02 20:22:05] shiroe : fake pump, abort abort
[2017-01-02 20:22:06] rapidtrades : it will be YUUUGE
[2017-01-02 20:22:16] anduck : dead cat?
[2017-01-02 20:22:32] Rado2 : rapidtrades: I can here the pronunciation in my head
[2017-01-02 20:22:33] shiroe : meowth.
[2017-01-02 20:22:47] PARAFFIN : i think well sell below 995 - 990
[2017-01-02 20:22:52] BTCDJS : raisetheblade: oh ok cool. He is one of the good guys. As long as you take it as educational
[2017-01-02 20:22:58] Rado2 : PARAFFIN: well bellow
[2017-01-02 20:23:06] zanza : exuberence over ?
[2017-01-02 20:23:06] PARAFFIN : Rado2: ??
[2017-01-02 20:23:16] Rado2 : well bellow 995
[2017-01-02 20:23:17] shiroe : 30minute cross, it continues!
[2017-01-02 20:23:27] PARAFFIN : Rado2: yes47
[2017-01-02 20:23:48] PARAFFIN : shiroe: what is cross?
[2017-01-02 20:24:00] raisetheblade : I ended up finding Chaos Trader in his library and that guy is bad ass @BTCDJS
[2017-01-02 20:24:05] BetterNick : Where would I found the format of the Rest API error indicating too many requests?
[2017-01-02 20:24:08] BTCDJS : he posts videos as market moves and you get to see where he was right and wrong. Puts you into the mindset of a trader I think. Nothing is 100% @raisetheblade
[2017-01-02 20:25:01] BTCDJS : raisetheblade: I never noticed. Ill check it out
[2017-01-02 20:25:14] Rado : BetterNick: how are you making the API call?
[2017-01-02 20:25:21] shiroe : PARAFFIN: continueation of current trend? i dont know. haha
[2017-01-02 20:25:32] aethlios : let's see how daily candle will close, 3 1/2 hours more
[2017-01-02 20:25:48] BetterNick : Rado: I'm not sure what you mean. Using the rest API?
[2017-01-02 20:26:05] Rado : you will get back a response with the error message
[2017-01-02 20:26:08] BTCDJS : Rado: dude you're seriously freaking me out with all these accounts. Rado. Rado2. Angelika. STOP IT! lol
[2017-01-02 20:26:26] Rado : this is the same account
[2017-01-02 20:26:30] Rado : I renamed it
[2017-01-02 20:26:52] ayy_lmao : bitmex was bearish on the way up
[2017-01-02 20:26:57] ayy_lmao : and now bullish on the way down
[2017-01-02 20:26:58] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-02 20:27:04] BTCDJS : but you just spoke as rado2 and now you're speaking as rado
[2017-01-02 20:27:07] Sheriff : BTCDJS: What channel were you guys talking about?
[2017-01-02 20:27:20] BTCDJS : Sheriff: Ill find a link
[2017-01-02 20:27:27] Sheriff : BTCDJS: Thanks!
[2017-01-02 20:27:32] Rado : yes looking at both my accoutns
[2017-01-02 20:27:34] Rado : brb
[2017-01-02 20:27:49] BTCDJS : Sheriff:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC587BAG9cLTYtJ7Q4CqcOnw
[2017-01-02 20:28:14] Sheriff : BTCDJS: Awesome, thanks man. Always looking to learn more
[2017-01-02 20:28:18] BTCDJS : Sheriff: if you're on twitter he is @Carpenoctom
[2017-01-02 20:29:00] BTCDJS : Sheriff: I thought TA was enough though. Now Im looking to learn about other ways of trading
[2017-01-02 20:29:36] Sheriff : BTCDJS: Any other tools/resources you would recommend?
[2017-01-02 20:29:44] BTCDJS : Sheriff: It appears that not every trader uses TA. And I want to find out how they know about price movements without it
[2017-01-02 20:30:15] rowrow : things go up, things go down, can't explain that
[2017-01-02 20:30:50] rapidtrades : they all f*cking use TA but some pretend their shit doesn't stink
[2017-01-02 20:30:57] Sheriff : rowrow: Hahaha
[2017-01-02 20:31:05] BTCDJS : Sheriff: Got a link Rapitrades objected to but I think its validhttp://technical-analysis-addins.com/trading-gann-rules.php
[2017-01-02 20:31:24] rapidtrades : 95% of ppl here we bullish on the way up, because we were going up
[2017-01-02 20:31:34] raisetheblade : BTCDJS: I noticed that #SatoshiMoku was following this guy: https://www.youtube.com/user/ChaosTrader63/videos
[2017-01-02 20:32:27] BTCDJS : raisetheblade: subscribed. Ill check him out later ?
[2017-01-02 20:33:51] raisetheblade : Adios amigos... back to the Cabo grind!
[2017-01-02 20:33:57] BTCDJS : raisetheblade: @Sheriff Fibonacci is very powerful. Learn that first.
[2017-01-02 20:34:07] BTCDJS : raisetheblade: later dude
[2017-01-02 20:35:03] BTCDJS : raisetheblade: @Sheriff heres another onehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1P_1oxI07oWp1u_UuRuQBA
[2017-01-02 20:35:58] Yuppie : USD exchanges are less than 1% of market today...
[2017-01-02 20:36:03] Yuppie : https://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h
[2017-01-02 20:38:05] dannybreal : 'cos NWO KYC AML rules make it quite impossible to operate a proper USD market :D
[2017-01-02 20:39:39] rowrow : all the huge cny volume exchanges also seem to be 0-fee, which makes it kinda tough to compare
[2017-01-02 20:40:06] Yuppie : Anyone here got experience with https://wagecan.com/ ?
[2017-01-02 20:40:11] dannybreal : when will they start the chpper :D :D?
[2017-01-02 20:41:04] rowrow : everything back to where it was 18 hours ago
[2017-01-02 20:41:48] $$ : china not interested in selling
[2017-01-02 20:41:52] tommygunn : REKT:
[2017-01-02 20:42:12] rapidtrades : this si dumb
[2017-01-02 20:42:42] $$ : mr. fatcat in china wants as many btc as possible no matter the price
[2017-01-02 20:43:05] BTCDJS : ha ha WTF?
[2017-01-02 20:43:15] BTCDJS : Glad Im out of BTC
[2017-01-02 20:43:41] rowrow : why? minor volatility?
[2017-01-02 20:43:46] fineregex : "close on trigger" order beeing bigger than open positions wil close all and rest irgnored or be ignored completely?
[2017-01-02 20:43:51] $$ : 7400 cny again
[2017-01-02 20:44:12] rapidtrades : ridiculous
[2017-01-02 20:44:17] tommygunn : already thru that
[2017-01-02 20:45:03] $$ : gonna blow past the ATH. aint no resistance can stop the buying
[2017-01-02 20:45:35] rapidtrades : why do u have such a stupid username
[2017-01-02 20:46:01] $$ : lol i was surprised they allowed this
[2017-01-02 20:46:27] rowrow : why not $$$?
[2017-01-02 20:47:54] BTCDJS : Ha got excited over nothing. Got my ETH chart trend line in the wrong place on BitMEX
[2017-01-02 20:47:57] BTCDJS : Derp
[2017-01-02 20:47:58] rowrow : just need the price to go back up $10 again and we can repeat the boom bust cycle
[2017-01-02 20:48:08] BTCDJS : these charts are shit
[2017-01-02 20:48:20] BTCDJS : Guess Ill have to flick to coinigy
[2017-01-02 20:49:43] Naloxone : the premium on perpetual is crazy for a downtrend
[2017-01-02 20:50:36] justinlooking : pmsl downtrend
[2017-01-02 20:54:02] Naloxone : justinlooking: a downtrend clearly started at 7444
[2017-01-02 20:54:32] abbey : prepare to moon
[2017-01-02 20:54:58] PARAFFIN : abbey: ok engines on lol
[2017-01-02 20:55:36] PARAFFIN : abbey: butbut what if we are already on saturn?
[2017-01-02 20:56:03] abbey : nope
[2017-01-02 20:56:11] BTCDJS : abbey: STFU
[2017-01-02 20:57:02] rapidtrades : 1000 bitcoin feels rly expensive
[2017-01-02 20:57:05] PARAFFIN : 0.O
[2017-01-02 20:57:06] abbey : BTCDJS:
[2017-01-02 20:57:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5600 @ 1018.14
[2017-01-02 20:58:05] ayy_lmao : bitmex is retarded lol
[2017-01-02 20:58:24] justinlooking : someone's in a rush
[2017-01-02 20:58:36] kryptopojken : that perp premium'
[2017-01-02 20:59:08] zanza : rapidtrades: u shorting?
[2017-01-02 20:59:17] rapidtrades : nah