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[2017-01-02 13:12:44] rms : but i dunno, i see FOMO more than technical analysis ruling the psychology of this market
[2017-01-02 13:13:17] rms : china is even more ahead of the USA than usual right now so if USA doesn't buy up stamp and finex a bit to get china a little less ahead a correction may be more likely
[2017-01-02 13:13:56] rms : i dunno. i trade on smallish leverage and never short, so if we correct to 960, i'll just keep holding confident the position will get back to green in a week's time
[2017-01-02 13:14:07] rms : below 777 is my number to be worried
[2017-01-02 13:14:35] justinlooking : thx for sharing
[2017-01-02 13:14:40] rms : i've been trying to piece together what i think is actually happening in china
[2017-01-02 13:14:43] justinlooking : definitely some acrophobia up here, but demand/supply means only way is up to me
[2017-01-02 13:15:04] rms : there are lots of advisors to okcoin and huobi that are affiliated with top technical universities, tsinghua, etc
[2017-01-02 13:15:16] rms : tsinghua professors are all communist party members, i think
[2017-01-02 13:15:25] doged : rms: source for bollinger?
[2017-01-02 13:15:25] rms : so those are some government officials with significant BTC holdings
[2017-01-02 13:15:49] rms : i think in the rural areas where miners are getting cheap electricity, they work with the local government officials that manage the power plants
[2017-01-02 13:16:03] rms : and those government power plant managers must have been smart enough to get lots of BTCs
[2017-01-02 13:16:10] rullwull : most of chinese btc whales are 25 years old kids
[2017-01-02 13:16:35] rms : i'm pretty sure the party is fine if you just buy bitcoin to hedge against depreciating yuan as long as you intend to convert back to yuan eventually and not illegally get more dollars out of china
[2017-01-02 13:16:46] weather b0y4 : hey, i am only 24 and i am not a kid =)
[2017-01-02 13:16:46] rms : ...and yeah, also always 25 year old whales. :)
[2017-01-02 13:17:16] rullwull : comparing to communist professors)
[2017-01-02 13:17:40] rms : https://twitter.com/bbands/status/814541732998094848 is the relevant bollinger tweet
[2017-01-02 13:17:47] rms : it was kind of hard to interpret
[2017-01-02 13:18:06] rms : but i think that what we just had is the third push, so he thinks right now is a good time to sell
[2017-01-02 13:18:29] rms : ...but i think media coverage for btc <$1000 and the us bank holiday ending on Tuesday will continue pushing us higher
[2017-01-02 13:19:11] rms : ...if i were you guys, i would FOMO buy to not more than 5x leverage. and buy more BTC to get onto your account to make that more profitable for you
[2017-01-02 13:19:18] rms : but that's my strategy. FOMO buy when it goes up
[2017-01-02 13:19:42] rms : sell as it plateaus and the futures start settling
[2017-01-02 13:19:48] rms : then, if it goes down OR it goes up, buy back in
[2017-01-02 13:20:27] laisee : so buy or FOMO buy is the plan?
[2017-01-02 13:20:44] justinlooking : and btfd of course
[2017-01-02 13:20:45] Rado : lol
[2017-01-02 13:20:52] Rado : that's a terrible plan
[2017-01-02 13:21:17] laisee : any possible reason to sell?
[2017-01-02 13:21:54] rullwull : sell to close longs or open shorts
[2017-01-02 13:22:42] laisee : yes, technically correct but when & why? whats the SELL story?
[2017-01-02 13:23:13] rullwull : sell just for fun)
[2017-01-02 13:23:15] Rado : laisee: correction in a bull market
[2017-01-02 13:23:22] BetterNick : I got this message when I just tried to login. Rate limit exceeded, retry in 50 seconds Please re-enter your information and try again.
[2017-01-02 13:23:30] Rado : many negative divergences showing up on different timeframe charts
[2017-01-02 13:23:45] laisee : nullwull - thats best reason
[2017-01-02 13:23:53] BetterNick : And I did not try to login before. Admins, any idea?
[2017-01-02 13:24:20] Rado : BetterNick: someone trying to hack into your account?
[2017-01-02 13:24:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 98 @ 1025.39
[2017-01-02 13:24:45] elmorte : Hmm..none of the XBC charts are on TradingView. XBT and XBJ has both old and current ones on there... is it just me?
[2017-01-02 13:25:58] bingbongfly : how to cope with a huge loss...?! :(
[2017-01-02 13:26:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1025.15
[2017-01-02 13:26:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60 @ 1024.94
[2017-01-02 13:26:32] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2017-01-02 13:26:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60 @ 1024.73
[2017-01-02 13:26:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2000 @ 1024.28
[2017-01-02 13:26:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 1024.71
[2017-01-02 13:26:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 1024.74
[2017-01-02 13:27:01] BetterNick : I hope not.. there's not so much to steal anyway, hehe.
[2017-01-02 13:27:15] elmorte : bingbongfly: gf or a family member?
[2017-01-02 13:27:17] Rado : ;-)
[2017-01-02 13:27:25] bingbongfly : elmorte: uhm a trading loss x)
[2017-01-02 13:27:36] elmorte : Uh, so not that bad then :)
[2017-01-02 13:27:46] bingbongfly : elmorte: I have a big long on ETC which I havn't realised, first big loss :/
[2017-01-02 13:27:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 374 @ 1018.19
[2017-01-02 13:27:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1020.23
[2017-01-02 13:28:05] bingbongfly : elmorte: yea I guess it's only money
[2017-01-02 13:28:15] elmorte : it's a funny beast that one...you short or long?
[2017-01-02 13:28:21] herpinator : bingbongfly: don't worry friend we all take a loss sometimes just have a little break and then come back to things
[2017-01-02 13:28:26] tommygunn : hey my way low orders just filled
[2017-01-02 13:28:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 61 @ 1075.09
[2017-01-02 13:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2350 @ 1015.03
[2017-01-02 13:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 1015.13
[2017-01-02 13:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100000 @ 1014.71 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-02 13:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50000 @ 1017.62 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-02 13:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 59 @ 1016.48
[2017-01-02 13:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 1016.85
[2017-01-02 13:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 88 @ 1016.80
[2017-01-02 13:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 45000 @ 1015.56
[2017-01-02 13:28:36] gartley : hahahaha
[2017-01-02 13:28:37] gartley : wowowo
[2017-01-02 13:28:41] anduck : rektt
[2017-01-02 13:29:02] elmorte : lot of zeros
[2017-01-02 13:29:02] laisee : fun returns to the markets ...
[2017-01-02 13:29:14] Rado : laisee: good reason now?
[2017-01-02 13:29:17] tommygunn : super candle
[2017-01-02 13:29:21] Naloxone : not bad
[2017-01-02 13:29:23] laisee : sold already
[2017-01-02 13:29:24] tommygunn : buying
[2017-01-02 13:29:38] Naloxone : Finally my short worked
[2017-01-02 13:29:39] ayy_lmao : LOOOOOL
[2017-01-02 13:29:49] elmorte : laisee: @Rado happy New Year! @ayy_lmao
[2017-01-02 13:29:50] laisee : Rado: sold all I had ... and then some
[2017-01-02 13:29:58] ayy_lmao : happy new year
[2017-01-02 13:30:03] ayy_lmao : (155.30%)
[2017-01-02 13:30:10] tommygunn : xrap rebounfrf from 995 ro fast
[2017-01-02 13:30:16] anduck : rektttum
[2017-01-02 13:30:28] arbitrage001 : buy the dip buy the dip
[2017-01-02 13:30:35] elmorte : haha..all my positions closed with the Friday's settlement :)
[2017-01-02 13:30:37] tommygunn : just shows have low orders you never know
[2017-01-02 13:30:38] rowrow : any reason for this sudden swing? any news or just random craziness?
[2017-01-02 13:30:45] shiroe : that lag
[2017-01-02 13:30:47] laisee : ayy_lmao: congrats and happy new year$
[2017-01-02 13:30:48] mariomarco : i called it
[2017-01-02 13:30:51] Headroom : so much excitation for nothing
[2017-01-02 13:31:03] laisee : fundamentals are looking bad, time to sell
[2017-01-02 13:31:10] l3f : Tr: dead yet?
[2017-01-02 13:31:13] l3f : gf 50x
[2017-01-02 13:31:16] l3f : gg
[2017-01-02 13:31:24] l3f : gg no re
[2017-01-02 13:31:40] tommygunn : we were all waiting for correction, might have a second down
[2017-01-02 13:32:00] tommygunn : normal china short
[2017-01-02 13:32:12] shiroe : that lag wtf
[2017-01-02 13:32:48] rowrow : 3% swing in 60 seconds doesn't happen much these days, seemed like either some news or someone spazzing out with a lotta cash
[2017-01-02 13:32:57] tommygunn : sell sell short short turn those machines back on
[2017-01-02 13:33:30] rowrow : probably would have been a lot of money to be made in those couple minutes if you could keep up with the bots
[2017-01-02 13:33:56] tommygunn : you will miss this volatility one day when we grind
[2017-01-02 13:34:19] rowrow : i miss it already, just saying it doesn't happen as much
[2017-01-02 13:34:36] rowrow : volatile = more fun
[2017-01-02 13:34:56] Rado : fun fun
[2017-01-02 13:35:06] rms : lol
[2017-01-02 13:35:08] rms : right on time
[2017-01-02 13:35:11] rms : thanks john bollinger
[2017-01-02 13:35:17] laisee : are we there yet?
[2017-01-02 13:35:23] arbitrage001 : this is bear trap
[2017-01-02 13:35:28] arbitrage001 : dont short !
[2017-01-02 13:35:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 15000 @ 1082.35
[2017-01-02 13:35:46] rms : yeah i'm definitely calling bear trap
[2017-01-02 13:35:54] rms : or just some guy market closing
[2017-01-02 13:35:58] laisee : REKT agrees
[2017-01-02 13:36:03] Headroom : there is nothing here :-/
[2017-01-02 13:36:24] Headroom : no trap, no major moves stop to over react like girls
[2017-01-02 13:36:27] brouk : so this is going back upwards?
[2017-01-02 13:36:31] Headroom : I admit it's funny
[2017-01-02 13:36:35] tommygunn : my 990 did not hit yet
[2017-01-02 13:37:04] Rado : XBTH17 not falling much at all
[2017-01-02 13:37:08] l3f : that was hilarious
[2017-01-02 13:37:22] rms : 4H looks as juicy as ever
[2017-01-02 13:37:35] ayy_lmao : 1hr macd
[2017-01-02 13:37:45] arbitrage001 : we will make new high soon
[2017-01-02 13:38:02] Rado : arbitrage001: soon is very relative
[2017-01-02 13:38:13] rullwull : in one day it may drop below 6500 cny
[2017-01-02 13:38:25] l3f : it'd probably correct to 1k
[2017-01-02 13:38:49] Rado : l3f: lol
[2017-01-02 13:38:51] Rado : you are funny
[2017-01-02 13:38:55] arbitrage001 : my crystal balls never lie to it
[2017-01-02 13:39:00] arbitrage001 : to me
[2017-01-02 13:39:01] Rado : that's not a correction
[2017-01-02 13:39:03] brouk : someone's stop limit hit when it droped to 997
[2017-01-02 13:39:07] Rado : correction will be to $920
[2017-01-02 13:39:09] rullwull : 1K is pure psychological number, nothing with fibs levels
[2017-01-02 13:39:30] laisee : correction to 888 by Chiense New Year
[2017-01-02 13:39:31] ayy_lmao : sign of things to come imho
[2017-01-02 13:39:32] Naloxone : It's hilarious. Perpetual Swap swings are way more powerful than XBTH17
[2017-01-02 13:39:32] l3f : H17 is so illiquid that it tanked the drop like a boss
[2017-01-02 13:39:57] Rado : by the way this is how corrections start
[2017-01-02 13:40:12] MikeHunt : jebus, i woke to the sound of alarm bells and this happened :/
[2017-01-02 13:40:43] $$ : need a trap back up before next leg down
[2017-01-02 13:40:55] Rado : my MM bot si going crazy
[2017-01-02 13:41:23] l3f : Rado: did it make mad stacks?
[2017-01-02 13:41:30] l3f : whiplash has to be sick gains
[2017-01-02 13:41:39] rullwull : give him some pils) @Rado
[2017-01-02 13:41:55] Rado : not sick, but making gains
[2017-01-02 13:42:21] l3f : Rado: noice
[2017-01-02 13:42:28] laisee : executing mad volumes ... sick stuff
[2017-01-02 13:42:39] rowrow : someday i've gotta not be lazy and learn enough to make a bot
[2017-01-02 13:42:55] tommygunn : I am correcting buying dip
[2017-01-02 13:43:11] rowrow : maybe next year
[2017-01-02 13:43:23] l3f : rofl it went down to 1k
[2017-01-02 13:43:23] Rado : I think selling the bounce might be a better trade
[2017-01-02 13:43:31] MikeHunt : 1hr sell volume increasing?
[2017-01-02 13:43:39] l3f : Fucking #rip
[2017-01-02 13:43:55] l3f : We're hitting media attention again
[2017-01-02 13:44:03] l3f : more fuel for the pump
[2017-01-02 13:44:08] l3f : china likes to play dump games like this
[2017-01-02 13:44:22] l3f : espescially when volume is low in the night
[2017-01-02 13:44:34] arbitrage001 : the force is strong
[2017-01-02 13:44:36] tommygunn : exactly, just like over chrismas weekend
[2017-01-02 13:44:42] arbitrage001 : we are climbing back up
[2017-01-02 13:44:45] rowrow : i always wonder if that kind of market manipulation actually makes money - maybe you get in first and have other suckers do the work for you
[2017-01-02 13:46:12] Rado : rowrow: why do you think it's a manipulation
[2017-01-02 13:46:21] Rado : have considered that some people want to take profit
[2017-01-02 13:46:26] rullwull : its much easier for whales to make money on manipulated dump, pump requires much more funds
[2017-01-02 13:46:32] rowrow : i don't know for sure either way, just a possibility, could have been a big dumper
[2017-01-02 13:46:42] l3f : Rado: whale induced that panic on purpose
[2017-01-02 13:46:46] rowrow : 50/50
[2017-01-02 13:46:51] l3f : he already had a buy order ready to catch the knife
[2017-01-02 13:46:56] nOgAnOo : Good morning all
[2017-01-02 13:47:01] Rado : l3f: the purpose is they want to get out and take profit
[2017-01-02 13:47:09] Rado : remember people trade for money
[2017-01-02 13:47:19] Rado : not for ideological reason to hold BTC
[2017-01-02 13:47:21] rowrow : most people with 500 btc to burn don't dump it all in 2 minutes
[2017-01-02 13:47:28] rullwull : whales will put their buy orders when all the crowd margincalled
[2017-01-02 13:47:36] laisee : unless they want to make more
[2017-01-02 13:47:50] l3f : rowrow: exactly, they are way smart for that, so it has to be a calculated move
[2017-01-02 13:49:05] rowrow : was anybody watching if they hit all the big exchanges at the same time? tough to tell with arbitrage bots going at max speed
[2017-01-02 13:49:43] laisee : yes, calculated market moves operate across multiple exchanges
[2017-01-02 13:49:46] Rado : rowrow: you don't need to do that
[2017-01-02 13:49:55] laisee : starting with weakest ones
[2017-01-02 13:50:04] Rado : you sell at one of the big exchanges and the other follow
[2017-01-02 13:50:30] cryptobull : finex was first
[2017-01-02 13:50:49] laisee : just like Forex traders pick markets and times to move prices
[2017-01-02 13:51:53] tommygunn : http://stocktwits.com/message/39052729
[2017-01-02 13:55:34] MikeHunt : if this curls over we shouldnt see bellow 7125
[2017-01-02 13:56:19] MikeHunt : if we're lucky :/
[2017-01-02 13:58:59] Rado : MikeHunt: are you out of your short now?
[2017-01-02 13:59:14] Rado : this correction is just starting
[2017-01-02 13:59:31] Rado : I would not suggest to buy the dips anymore
[2017-01-02 13:59:33] arbitrage001 : Rado: the price has gone up like the drop never happen
[2017-01-02 13:59:46] Rado : arbitrage001: talk to me in 2 days
[2017-01-02 13:59:52] arbitrage001 : ok
[2017-01-02 13:59:53] arbitrage001 : sure
[2017-01-02 13:59:59] arbitrage001 : 2 days
[2017-01-02 14:00:04] arbitrage001 : that is 48 hours from now
[2017-01-02 14:00:04] MikeHunt : Rado: yeh since 1005
[2017-01-02 14:00:38] arbitrage001 : Chinese new year is end of this month
[2017-01-02 14:00:50] arbitrage001 : still close to 25 days
[2017-01-02 14:02:17] MikeHunt : is the transaction cost both ways 0.01% ?
[2017-01-02 14:02:18] rullwull : agree with Rado, the correction just started
[2017-01-02 14:04:18] Rado : MikeHunt: trading fee is 0.075%
[2017-01-02 14:04:28] Rado : and yes for every trade
[2017-01-02 14:05:15] MikeHunt : Rado: so a buy and a sell would be 0.15% total?
[2017-01-02 14:05:57] Rado : yes
[2017-01-02 14:06:30] Rado : you need to make more than that to be profitable
[2017-01-02 14:06:41] Rado : that's not hard the way BTC is moving
[2017-01-02 14:07:17] Rado : of course if you are wrong and stop out it's cost of doing business :-)
[2017-01-02 14:07:31] shiroe : bull yesterday for 24hrs, correction for the next 12hrs. rinse and epeat
[2017-01-02 14:08:13] MikeHunt : looks like it could touch the top line continuation line again before dropping again if last two pumps were an indicator in 1hr
[2017-01-02 14:08:19] rowrow : just remember the most valuable piece of advice: never take trading advice from anonymous people on the internet
[2017-01-02 14:09:01] MikeHunt : ive tried shorting this before so im wary
[2017-01-02 14:09:09] MikeHunt : it can do magical things
[2017-01-02 14:09:41] rms : the funny thing about my buy when it goes up trading strategy is that i always end up in the red for a bit
[2017-01-02 14:09:44] rms : and then it just goes up gain
[2017-01-02 14:10:15] Rado : rowrow: specially in a trollbox
[2017-01-02 14:11:04] gartley : buy high sell low
[2017-01-02 14:12:25] Rado : gartley: that's the best startegy
[2017-01-02 14:12:31] rms : buy high sell higher
[2017-01-02 14:12:48] rms : or buy buy high and hold till settlement
[2017-01-02 14:12:56] shiroe : buy and forget.
[2017-01-02 14:12:57] rms : do we all really think btc will be 1080 on march 31st?
[2017-01-02 14:13:08] alejandromasari : no
[2017-01-02 14:13:35] alejandromasari : xbth17 will fade to meet the spot price near expiration
[2017-01-02 14:13:46] Apocalyptic : rms: the market does
[2017-01-02 14:14:07] Angelika : alejandromasari: spot price could be $1200 on March 31
[2017-01-02 14:14:20] alejandromasari : we will see
[2017-01-02 14:14:22] shiroe : 'recovery they said'
[2017-01-02 14:14:57] rowrow : could be 1200, could be 800, could be 2000, could be 400
[2017-01-02 14:14:59] rullwull : Angelika: or 800$
[2017-01-02 14:15:09] Angelika : yep
[2017-01-02 14:15:27] Angelika : rowrow: I don't think 400
[2017-01-02 14:15:34] Angelika : all other are possible ;-)
[2017-01-02 14:15:59] rowrow : rough to pay a 5% fee each 3 months though - yeah probably not but you never know, enough developer infighting, bad news out of china, etc.
[2017-01-02 14:16:28] Angelika : rowrow: momentum is too strong
[2017-01-02 14:16:34] Angelika : and I am not talking about trading
[2017-01-02 14:17:05] Angelika : use of BTC in applications, payment processing, transmission of funds etc
[2017-01-02 14:17:20] rowrow : i agree it's unlikely without bad news, i'm generally bullish at the moment - but i do think it's a possibility
[2017-01-02 14:17:20] shiroe : action in t minus 12mins
[2017-01-02 14:17:38] rullwull : most possible dump and than few months sideways
[2017-01-02 14:17:43] Angelika : rowrow: well, everything it's possible
[2017-01-02 14:18:21] MikeHunt : it seems after last pump it came up way to quick meaning a hard retest
[2017-01-02 14:19:47] Naloxone : If Bitcoin corrects further, ETH may start a bullrun
[2017-01-02 14:20:17] MikeHunt : Naloxone: eth a good hedge?
[2017-01-02 14:21:28] rullwull : eth is scam, 4 forks already
[2017-01-02 14:22:15] Naloxone : MikeHunt: Longed ETH at 790 when Bitcoin was at the top
[2017-01-02 14:22:15] rowrow : the initial distribution and hype of eth never sat well with me, but then it kept going up anyway - don't know enough to judge the tech
[2017-01-02 14:22:19] anduck : eth is scam
[2017-01-02 14:23:15] tommygunn : rullwull: @anduck are scam artists I heard on redit
[2017-01-02 14:23:45] anduck : who are+
[2017-01-02 14:24:12] anduck : ohh, you heard anduck = scam artist in reddit? link? :)
[2017-01-02 14:24:40] rullwull : what is reddit?
[2017-01-02 14:25:07] anduck : @tommygunn: source? :)
[2017-01-02 14:25:29] anduck : really interested in that theory xD
[2017-01-02 14:26:00] anduck : it must be the jackasses at rBtc? they have an excellent track record in spreading bullshit
[2017-01-02 14:27:03] rowrow : market temporarily stable? lame
[2017-01-02 14:27:36] shiroe : the candle is green, but the volume is low. round 2 later.
[2017-01-02 14:29:22] PlatoWright : rullwull: reddit is a website with forums where many aspects of bitcoin and crypto are discussed
[2017-01-02 14:29:45] rullwull : i was kidding)
[2017-01-02 14:30:30] PlatoWright : rullwull: ok ;)
[2017-01-02 14:35:55] aethlios : 3.3 mill dumped on swap
[2017-01-02 14:36:07] paniktrade : man these bots are fugging retarte
[2017-01-02 14:36:09] MikeHunt : aethlios: where do you see that?
[2017-01-02 14:36:13] paniktrade : just look at the books
[2017-01-02 14:36:17] paniktrade : tf they doing?
[2017-01-02 14:36:30] $$ : china going for new high
[2017-01-02 14:36:52] aethlios : MikeHunt: chart shows volume for every 5 min candle. press + sympol
[2017-01-02 14:38:01] rowrow : different bots do different things, some bots just try to get a good buy price, some ping pong to profit the spread, others arbitrage
[2017-01-02 14:38:30] paniktrade : well this bot is just putting and order and canceling its like 3 times a second
[2017-01-02 14:38:31] rowrow : others try to profit on technical analysis algorithms - this site is apparently over 1/3rd bots
[2017-01-02 14:38:46] aethlios : pump orders on okcoin futures
[2017-01-02 14:38:50] rowrow : might just be badly programmed
[2017-01-02 14:38:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1021.89
[2017-01-02 14:39:07] l3f : https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCCNY/QtB0KPEc-Bitcoin-Ascension-2-0-You-Can-Not-Abort/
[2017-01-02 14:39:10] alejandromasari : Liquidated short on XBTUSD: buy 5000 @ 1021.89 << this is what happens when you chase
[2017-01-02 14:39:12] alejandromasari : LOLOL
[2017-01-02 14:39:15] alejandromasari : suckkkers
[2017-01-02 14:39:47] laisee : bot % == 451/847 == 53%
[2017-01-02 14:39:52] MikeHunt : aethlios: hmm not sure where the + symbol is
[2017-01-02 14:40:16] Angelika : MikeHunt: top left corner
[2017-01-02 14:40:26] Angelika : laisee: this is your bot?
[2017-01-02 14:40:54] aethlios : MikeHunt: does your graph show you H, L, O, C??? high low open close prices???
[2017-01-02 14:41:31] REKT : Choppy waters make solid seamen!
[2017-01-02 14:41:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50 @ 1022.45
[2017-01-02 14:41:32] Angelika : laisee: oh I see
[2017-01-02 14:41:44] Angelika : you are just posting the chat numbers
[2017-01-02 14:41:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1023.14
[2017-01-02 14:41:54] MikeHunt : aethlios: doesnt appear to
[2017-01-02 14:41:58] Angelika : some of the users are also bots
[2017-01-02 14:41:58] alejandromasari : Liquidated short on XBTUSD: buy 50 @ 1022.45 <<< YOU DONT SHORT A BULL MARKET BUDDD YOU WILL GET REKT
[2017-01-02 14:42:07] Angelika : so teh % is not exactly correct
[2017-01-02 14:42:10] l3f : alejandromasari: that might be a mm lol
[2017-01-02 14:42:18] laisee : those numbers are connected sessions via API and logged-in users
[2017-01-02 14:42:35] laisee : some overlap, yes
[2017-01-02 14:42:53] aethlios : MikeHunt: click settings button, then background and check OHLC
[2017-01-02 14:43:03] $$ : 21 cny away from new high in china
[2017-01-02 14:43:13] $$ : dump and pump. china style
[2017-01-02 14:43:38] aethlios : then try to find + next to O and click it to open, you see volume for every candle.
[2017-01-02 14:44:39] MikeHunt : aethlios: the little grey O ?
[2017-01-02 14:44:56] MikeHunt : aethlios: oh i see
[2017-01-02 14:45:02] MikeHunt : aethlios: volume displayed top left
[2017-01-02 14:45:51] aethlios : choose 5 minutes, candles, and place cursor to a candle bar and you see the volume in usd
[2017-01-02 14:46:38] aethlios : if you choose 1 hour you see volume for each hour etc.
[2017-01-02 14:47:14] MikeHunt : last big red hammer shaped one was 4.6 million $ ?
[2017-01-02 14:47:24] MikeHunt : (in 1hr)
[2017-01-02 14:48:54] aethlios : MikeHunt: true, go 5 minutes, in 10 minutes 3.6 mill
[2017-01-02 14:48:57] shiroe : Trying hard to go up, seems failing.
[2017-01-02 14:49:43] MikeHunt : aethlios: yeh i see now, thanks for your help!
[2017-01-02 14:50:01] aethlios : very manipulative pump, a big whale went out in good price with volume
[2017-01-02 14:50:19] l3f : aethlios: how much volume?
[2017-01-02 14:50:22] shiroe : profit taking initated :)
[2017-01-02 14:50:47] shiroe : i am out. lmfao.
[2017-01-02 14:50:48] aethlios : l3f: volume huge across exchanges, here 3.5 million in 10 minutes
[2017-01-02 14:51:04] MikeHunt : downward?
[2017-01-02 14:51:10] l3f : aethlios: which one?
[2017-01-02 14:51:44] aethlios : l3f: what do you mean?? we had a 30 usd dump an hour ago
[2017-01-02 14:52:03] l3f : The volume is about the same as the pump though
[2017-01-02 14:52:34] l3f : oh bitstamp
[2017-01-02 14:52:40] shiroe : buying at 980. going to sleep. goodluck!
[2017-01-02 14:53:05] rullwull : volumes are very low on usd spots even comparing with last summer pump
[2017-01-02 14:53:31] dannybreal : noone needs crappy usd anymore lol
[2017-01-02 14:53:37] l3f : rullwull: that's to be expected, the price's higher
[2017-01-02 14:53:39] ayy_lmao : this is number 1 bullshit
[2017-01-02 14:53:52] justinlooking : long wheelbarrows
[2017-01-02 14:54:03] rullwull : check 2013 november volumes, same price
[2017-01-02 14:54:31] MikeHunt : crash incoming unavoidable now then? or at least a sharp correction?
[2017-01-02 14:54:41] MikeHunt : i dont like the steepness either
[2017-01-02 14:54:53] dannybreal : volume started picking up late 15'
[2017-01-02 14:55:17] aethlios : MikeHunt: crash will come and retrace 70% of the gains, but we don't know from what top.
[2017-01-02 14:55:36] dannybreal : lol why
[2017-01-02 14:55:48] MikeHunt : so 1100/1200 is a pipe dream now?
[2017-01-02 14:55:59] MikeHunt : or at least for a few days?
[2017-01-02 14:56:26] Headroom : same story again and again, same words, same reaction X times / day for absolutly nothing at the end (I'm making this comment one time / day too haha)
[2017-01-02 14:56:40] dannybreal : you wallstreet guys a ridiculous, BTC is god , eveeryone wants it , its not a stock ffs
[2017-01-02 14:56:47] Headroom : market doesn't move today, comments are useless
[2017-01-02 14:57:02] Headroom : let's dance naked with a mojito ho my fucking god
[2017-01-02 14:57:13] Headroom : arf this corrector again
[2017-01-02 14:57:26] laisee : u mean trollbox doesn't move the markets?
[2017-01-02 14:57:38] laisee : Somepne lied.
[2017-01-02 14:57:58] aethlios : 6 months ago people were dumping below 500 and now pumping above 1,000. no news, no fix to scalability issue, blocks full, but speculation is king.
[2017-01-02 14:58:32] MikeHunt : didnt the US invent bitcoin to bankrupt non-aligned nations?
[2017-01-02 14:58:46] Headroom : this is one of the theories
[2017-01-02 14:58:57] MikeHunt : wasnt bitcoin the derivative of an NSA 1996 paper on cryptocurrencies?
[2017-01-02 14:59:02] Headroom : and it could be it, it could be asecret nazi plan too, it could be so many things
[2017-01-02 14:59:32] MikeHunt : Headroom: well the US did help the nazis for a while lol
[2017-01-02 14:59:47] Headroom : hahaha it will add value to the theory so
[2017-01-02 14:59:49] MikeHunt : Headroom: that documentary iron sky said they are now living on the moon waiting to come back ;)
[2017-01-02 15:00:10] Headroom : nice funny movie in many ways
[2017-01-02 15:00:22] MikeHunt : i think they are making a 2nd one
[2017-01-02 15:00:27] laisee : aethlios: there is hope for resolution of the scaling issue with BU option.
[2017-01-02 15:00:44] dannybreal : and yet BTC transactions better faster than swift fiat shit :D
[2017-01-02 15:01:35] dannybreal : chinese capital controls pushing the price atm
[2017-01-02 15:01:55] dannybreal : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02/bitcoin-surges-above-1000-china-unveils-new-capital-controls
[2017-01-02 15:01:55] ayy_lmao : china and their full retraces
[2017-01-02 15:02:37] dannybreal : this party won't stop, ever. period
[2017-01-02 15:03:01] MikeHunt : china does have the power to destroy or severly limit bitcoin though
[2017-01-02 15:03:35] dannybreal : no why would they wanna do it , its their train to become superpower
[2017-01-02 15:03:56] laisee : only for short time, its protocol not a single server or system
[2017-01-02 15:03:59] MikeHunt : dannybreal: supposedly to defend the yuan
[2017-01-02 15:04:28] paniktrade : MikeHunt: yuan doesnt lose value or even leave china
[2017-01-02 15:04:45] paniktrade : when u buy btc in china some1 is taking ur yuan
[2017-01-02 15:04:49] dannybreal : chinese are smart , yuan is protected by the 4trillion of us treasury bonds
[2017-01-02 15:04:58] paniktrade : thus no yuan leaves the country
[2017-01-02 15:05:07] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 5000 @ 1092.45
[2017-01-02 15:05:14] ayy_lmao : doublr banga
[2017-01-02 15:05:16] ayy_lmao : lmao
[2017-01-02 15:05:24] MikeHunt : paniktrade: yuan may not leave the country but value supposedly does
[2017-01-02 15:05:25] $$ : fomo shorters get rekt again
[2017-01-02 15:05:27] laisee : Japanese own more US trasuries than China. its been selling for last two years.
[2017-01-02 15:05:59] laisee : and China foreign reserves are droping by 1TN per yr.
[2017-01-02 15:06:01] $$ : xbth17 double topped 1094
[2017-01-02 15:06:04] paniktrade : MikeHunt: well china loves to deval anyways so good for them :D
[2017-01-02 15:06:08] dannybreal : japan is us vassale
[2017-01-02 15:08:43] dannybreal : anyone got a spare mil? buy 900 000 contracts - long and take the price to 1200 , wud b fun .D
[2017-01-02 15:09:38] gladimor : @dannybreak, the bots would hammer the price back to mark price in under a minute :P
[2017-01-02 15:09:56] dannybreal : :D
[2017-01-02 15:10:17] shiroe : the mil is already bitcoin so, it could be fun to 850 as well
[2017-01-02 15:11:21] dannybreal : no, parity with gold and then everyone will be thinking why tf i havent already bought in :D and the floodgates open
[2017-01-02 15:11:58] laisee : wonder who would they would sell the 900k contracts to @ 1200?
[2017-01-02 15:18:03] BTCDJS : Is trading on bitmex through coinigy available yet?
[2017-01-02 15:21:18] BTCDJS : Sam? Wally? Candyman candyman candyman
[2017-01-02 15:23:00] BitMEX_Greg : BTCDJS: I am not aware, we can look into it though
[2017-01-02 15:23:12] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: Ahh Greg
[2017-01-02 15:23:23] BTCDJS : The only one I didn't think of
[2017-01-02 15:24:00] BitMEX_Greg : im always here US hours :)
[2017-01-02 15:25:02] BTCDJS : Ok then all my questions get directed at you from now on. Thanks for nominating yourself ?
[2017-01-02 15:26:29] BitMEX_Greg : No worries
[2017-01-02 15:30:18] Vijuu : Unrealised means what ?
[2017-01-02 15:31:40] BitMEX_Sam : Coinigy still only supports balances
[2017-01-02 15:31:54] BitMEX_Greg : Vijuu: this is profit or loss that has not been released, realised or locked in yet
[2017-01-02 15:32:19] BTCDJS : ok thanks
[2017-01-02 15:32:51] Vijuu : Its showing me in red
[2017-01-02 15:33:11] BitMEX_Sam : AFAIK Coinigy is still working on margin trading, but it's quite complicated even to display vs. spot so there is still some pending work.
[2017-01-02 15:33:26] Vijuu : What is mark price
[2017-01-02 15:34:20] BTCDJS : Oh yeah that makes sense
[2017-01-02 15:34:45] BTCDJS : didn't think about that
[2017-01-02 15:35:00] Vijuu : As soon as I buy or sell it shows me profit do I get those money?
[2017-01-02 15:35:08] BTCDJS : better just to trade here
[2017-01-02 15:36:28] Vijuu : ??
[2017-01-02 15:36:36] BTCDJS : the charts on Coinigy are excellent though
[2017-01-02 15:37:38] BTCDJS : Vijuu: It will take you a while to get used to trading here. It doesn't just work like that.
[2017-01-02 15:38:07] odieoh : mark price is what your actual profit or loss is based off of
[2017-01-02 15:38:14] BTCDJS : Vijuu: you went long right?
[2017-01-02 15:38:27] Vijuu : Hmm
[2017-01-02 15:38:38] Vijuu : Yes
[2017-01-02 15:38:53] odieoh : the other prices are just what people are willing to pay, either above or below the mark price-if they pay more, they are paying a premium, if they pay less then they are getting a discount
[2017-01-02 15:39:18] Vijuu : K
[2017-01-02 15:39:26] BTCDJS : Vijuu: that unrealised profit is the difference between last price and mark price. You will only get that profit if you sell your contracts at the mark price
[2017-01-02 15:40:02] justinlooking : give me rekt in my rekt i rekt
[2017-01-02 15:40:03] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2000 @ 1093.76
[2017-01-02 15:40:08] Vijuu : Odieoh: thank you
[2017-01-02 15:40:29] odieoh : No problem :)
[2017-01-02 15:41:12] Vijuu : BTCDJD : Thanks a lot
[2017-01-02 15:42:15] BTCDJS : Vijuu: no problem. If you want to go long. Best time to get in is when the last traded price is lower than the mark price. Takes longer to get liquadated
[2017-01-02 15:42:27] BTCDJS : same for reverse
[2017-01-02 15:42:36] BTCDJS : if you short
[2017-01-02 15:43:28] BTCDJS : forget about unrealised profit. Only use it as a guide. Better to work out where you buy to where you sell
[2017-01-02 15:43:37] shiroe : is this double top?
[2017-01-02 15:43:56] odieoh : assuming it stops going up
[2017-01-02 15:44:01] BTCDJS : shiroe: let me ask the oracle
[2017-01-02 15:44:44] BTCDJS : she says look inside. You know the answer
[2017-01-02 15:45:08] odieoh : Augur hasn't launched yet; but when it does you'll have a better oracle :)
[2017-01-02 15:45:36] BTCDJS : odieoh: I invested in REP at crowd sale
[2017-01-02 15:45:45] BTCDJS : Made a pretty good profit
[2017-01-02 15:46:02] BTCDJS : shame about ethereum
[2017-01-02 15:46:17] odieoh : Nice, me too. .. I'm still holding. Bought a bit more a week or so ago when it was at .0028
[2017-01-02 15:46:18] BTCDJS : I think it messed with REP price
[2017-01-02 15:46:39] BTCDJS : I dumped all of it
[2017-01-02 15:46:50] odieoh : I should have; would have been able to buy double
[2017-01-02 15:46:53] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: @BitMEX_Sam Happy New Year guys! Do you know why none of the XBC series are on Trading View...or how to get to them?
[2017-01-02 15:47:15] elmorte : XBT and XBJ are there...
[2017-01-02 15:48:45] BTCDJS : odieoh: wish I placed bids at 0.00025
[2017-01-02 15:48:52] BTCDJS : Instant profit
[2017-01-02 15:49:02] odieoh : From the hack?
[2017-01-02 15:49:02] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: We need to reach out to them. I guess as it is a relatively new product
[2017-01-02 15:49:10] BTCDJS : yeah lol
[2017-01-02 15:49:18] odieoh : Yeah me too, was kicking myself
[2017-01-02 15:50:15] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: Oh, alright...so the charts displayed here use their engine but local data?
[2017-01-02 15:51:07] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: that's a better question for Sam. I believe it's as you say though
[2017-01-02 15:51:08] Vijuu : Can I change leverage after order
[2017-01-02 15:51:18] BitMEX_Greg : Vijuu: yes just userhe leverage slider
[2017-01-02 15:51:26] BTCDJS : if you have more margin
[2017-01-02 15:51:30] BitMEX_Greg : use the*
[2017-01-02 15:51:35] shiroe : where is my panic button.. hmmm
[2017-01-02 15:51:36] BTCDJS : but if you went all in no
[2017-01-02 15:51:56] Vijuu : K
[2017-01-02 15:52:10] Vijuu : Thank you
[2017-01-02 15:55:27] Naloxone : ETH is about to break out, now waiting for Bitcoin down movement confirmation
[2017-01-02 16:03:27] alejandromasari : guys don't short unless u wanna get wrecked
[2017-01-02 16:03:41] rowrow : and if i do?
[2017-01-02 16:03:46] anonymous123421 : kek
[2017-01-02 16:03:50] Headroom : yes, short it! give your food and be eaten alive
[2017-01-02 16:03:55] ayy_lmao : that double banga
[2017-01-02 16:04:13] MikeHunt : this sorta looks very bullish and bearish at same time
[2017-01-02 16:04:21] Headroom : it is nothing right now
[2017-01-02 16:04:45] alejandromasari : new 2017 high coming up and the sky is the limit!!
[2017-01-02 16:05:08] MikeHunt : 8k+ is target and i think its gone too steep to correct now
[2017-01-02 16:05:43] Headroom : 10.000 for btc or die, it's a religion I just created
[2017-01-02 16:05:46] ayy_lmao : lol first we have to clear ath before 8k is even in the picture
[2017-01-02 16:05:50] rowrow : i always wonder if tax considerations around new year will have much effect on trading, probably not though
[2017-01-02 16:06:00] alejandromasari : when will the shorts give up
[2017-01-02 16:06:05] alejandromasari : all I see is wrecked
[2017-01-02 16:06:16] WhiteJacket : 7400 china
[2017-01-02 16:06:35] MikeHunt : huobi 1100 might be a shorter
[2017-01-02 16:06:41] Headroom : 421 fidji islands
[2017-01-02 16:06:46] MikeHunt : near 1100-1200 is dodgy imo
[2017-01-02 16:07:08] justinlooking : lol short
[2017-01-02 16:07:55] $$ : not sure what xbth17 is waiting for
[2017-01-02 16:08:14] alejandromasari : $$: xbth17 is a scam it lags the spot price
[2017-01-02 16:08:36] sleger : ^ "wall st trader" starts calling everything a scam
[2017-01-02 16:08:37] $$ : over 5 million contracts and no shorts want to panic close
[2017-01-02 16:09:08] alejandromasari : sleger <<< cockroach is back stomp on him
[2017-01-02 16:09:33] sleger : hey you called yourself a wall st trader
[2017-01-02 16:09:39] sleger : i never called myself a cockroach
[2017-01-02 16:09:40] sleger : be nice
[2017-01-02 16:09:49] BTCDJS : XBTH17 is futures right?
[2017-01-02 16:09:53] Headroom : yup
[2017-01-02 16:10:07] BTCDJS : alejandromasari: you said you traded futures
[2017-01-02 16:11:00] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: I trade real futures /es /gc /si /cl
[2017-01-02 16:11:18] alejandromasari : xbth17 is garbage compared to those futures
[2017-01-02 16:11:28] alejandromasari : poor liquidity
[2017-01-02 16:12:03] BTCDJS : alejandromasari: this site is fairly new. Liquidity is building over time
[2017-01-02 16:12:18] BTCDJS : more users required
[2017-01-02 16:12:18] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: ok we wait then. give it a chance
[2017-01-02 16:12:44] BTCDJS : no scams here though
[2017-01-02 16:13:28] alejandromasari : BTCDJS: ok no scams maybe I should call it a disappointment instead
[2017-01-02 16:13:35] sleger : fairly new : >2 years
[2017-01-02 16:13:52] BTCDJS : sleger: but in bitcoin space
[2017-01-02 16:14:06] sleger : yes you should go to localbitcoins and trade your bitcoins with people you can meet on "Wall st"
[2017-01-02 16:14:21] MikeHunt : i dont use xbth17 simply because i dont understand the benefit over swap