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[2017-01-02 05:18:19] qwerti : have fun
[2017-01-02 05:18:29] nOgAnOo : huh? someone just went on top of my order
[2017-01-02 05:18:44] shery : qwerti: fill mines 50 k order at 990 Too
[2017-01-02 05:18:49] j8 : hidden order in front of you
[2017-01-02 05:19:07] qwerti : that's called filling dude
[2017-01-02 05:19:17] nOgAnOo : ok now it's filled
[2017-01-02 05:19:19] nOgAnOo : thanks man!
[2017-01-02 05:19:22] qwerti : no worries
[2017-01-02 05:19:25] qwerti : remember
[2017-01-02 05:19:27] qwerti : no weak hands
[2017-01-02 05:19:32] qwerti : we don't like weak hands round here
[2017-01-02 05:19:36] qwerti : you are holding till ath
[2017-01-02 05:19:43] qwerti : this ones on me
[2017-01-02 05:19:51] nOgAnOo : I'm dumpin this obsolete chain like a hot potato
[2017-01-02 05:19:55] nOgAnOo : Bitcoin is dead!
[2017-01-02 05:20:19] Dtrade16 : Guys how do you look at historical charts?
[2017-01-02 05:20:26] Dtrade16 : Trading view?
[2017-01-02 05:21:35] nOgAnOo : Qwerti, prove your faith in Satoshi and buy up the futures to 1085.88
[2017-01-02 05:22:04] nOgAnOo : 1085.99*
[2017-01-02 05:22:51] qwerti : before the 35 banga i did lol
[2017-01-02 05:22:53] qwerti : 40k was me
[2017-01-02 05:22:56] qwerti : not johnny
[2017-01-02 05:23:15] evilminer : shery: still bullish? ;-)
[2017-01-02 05:23:40] ayy_lmao : keep shorting, we need more moon fuel
[2017-01-02 05:24:14] ayy_lmao : 35 what? 35k contracts?
[2017-01-02 05:24:27] qwerti : yeah dude
[2017-01-02 05:24:33] ayy_lmao : you guys joking
[2017-01-02 05:24:36] ayy_lmao : ?
[2017-01-02 05:24:41] qwerti : look at the order book
[2017-01-02 05:24:45] ayy_lmao : r u srs fronting with 35k contracts
[2017-01-02 05:24:46] qwerti : johnny literally counted it down lol
[2017-01-02 05:24:53] qwerti : what do you mean?
[2017-01-02 05:25:01] qwerti : im 12 dude
[2017-01-02 05:25:01] ayy_lmao : 35k contracts isnt alot
[2017-01-02 05:25:07] qwerti : i have no idea what im doing
[2017-01-02 05:25:09] qwerti : 12k is a lot for me
[2017-01-02 05:25:12] ayy_lmao : oh nice
[2017-01-02 05:25:17] ayy_lmao : alright you get a pass
[2017-01-02 05:25:20] nOgAnOo : yeah, and johnny told me to kill myself
[2017-01-02 05:25:23] nOgAnOo : def not a whale
[2017-01-02 05:25:28] qwerti : what are you guys trading at
[2017-01-02 05:25:35] qwerti : yeah def not whale lol
[2017-01-02 05:25:51] qwerti : >7 fig whale fronting in troll box
[2017-01-02 05:25:56] qwerti : lol
[2017-01-02 05:27:02] XBT_IHCT : johnny is poor leave him alone
[2017-01-02 05:27:13] qwerti : johnny is real poor
[2017-01-02 05:27:21] qwerti : 5k johnny
[2017-01-02 05:27:25] qwerti : that's what i call him
[2017-01-02 05:27:28] nOgAnOo : LOL
[2017-01-02 05:29:12] MikeHunt : bitcoin essentially must hit ATH to survive imo
[2017-01-02 05:29:22] MikeHunt : that means 8k or no more bitcoin
[2017-01-02 05:29:27] MikeHunt : 8k+*
[2017-01-02 05:30:25] qwerti : nice analysis
[2017-01-02 05:30:30] qwerti : i suggest selling
[2017-01-02 05:31:25] shery : new high
[2017-01-02 05:31:56] nOgAnOo : Yeah!!! Dump it!!
[2017-01-02 05:32:01] nOgAnOo : All in short!
[2017-01-02 05:32:09] XBT_IHCT : shery: are you a lady trader?
[2017-01-02 05:32:21] shery : XBT_IHCT: No are you?
[2017-01-02 05:32:37] shery : XBT_IHCT: seems you are looking for a partner
[2017-01-02 05:33:25] XBT_IHCT : I am actually! do you know any sexy lady traders?
[2017-01-02 05:33:26] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-01-02 05:33:46] nOgAnOo : XBT told me he hasn't had a girlfriend in 10 years
[2017-01-02 05:34:01] ayy_lmao : bitcoin is the only friend you need
[2017-01-02 05:35:11] imapotato : fuck fiat get money
[2017-01-02 05:35:58] alejandromasari : BitMEX_Jinming: why would the software allow for a post and hidden order conditions to be set simultaneously
[2017-01-02 05:36:41] nOgAnOo : Is that 21 contracts you Johnny?
[2017-01-02 05:37:33] qwerti : ok johnny is 5k
[2017-01-02 05:37:35] qwerti : but he's not an idiot
[2017-01-02 05:38:01] shery : qwerti: he did what he said although he only dumped it byt 5 $
[2017-01-02 05:38:07] alejandromasari : Johnnys balls are smaller than a grain of a lentil @johnny
[2017-01-02 05:38:12] qwerti : i did lol
[2017-01-02 05:38:14] qwerti : that's not johnny lmao
[2017-01-02 05:38:23] qwerti : i dropped 35k for that
[2017-01-02 05:38:25] shery : qwerti: xbt 17?
[2017-01-02 05:38:30] qwerti : yes
[2017-01-02 05:38:31] qwerti : we're mates
[2017-01-02 05:38:47] shery : qwerti: ah Nice buddies !
[2017-01-02 05:38:49] ayy_lmao : are you guys really
[2017-01-02 05:38:54] qwerti : yeah dude
[2017-01-02 05:39:02] ayy_lmao : damn, how did you guys get into bitcoin
[2017-01-02 05:39:03] qwerti : great minds think alike
[2017-01-02 05:39:03] Cynthia : Who is Johnny?
[2017-01-02 05:39:04] qwerti : 5k bros
[2017-01-02 05:39:05] shery : qwerti: arent you dumping anymore?
[2017-01-02 05:39:12] qwerti : no lol
[2017-01-02 05:39:17] qwerti : i bought 45k before that
[2017-01-02 05:39:18] alejandromasari : does arthur Hayes ever come on this troll box chat??
[2017-01-02 05:39:28] shery : qwerti: dump it
[2017-01-02 05:39:29] qwerti : johnny is literally your worst nightmare
[2017-01-02 05:39:39] qwerti : shery: no
[2017-01-02 05:40:24] alejandromasari : there is little substance to johnnys claims hot air coming out of his ass
[2017-01-02 05:40:45] qwerti : well considering i know the bloke
[2017-01-02 05:40:49] laisee : alejandromasari: sometimes. he writes their weekly trading analysis newsletter.
[2017-01-02 05:40:54] qwerti : ill challenge that
[2017-01-02 05:40:59] imapotato : $10,000 by January 10th?
[2017-01-02 05:40:59] qwerti : ok gtg bros
[2017-01-02 05:41:12] imapotato : 2018
[2017-01-02 05:41:17] qwerti : happy trades, and remember: if you have weak hands, gtfo. you don't deserve this run
[2017-01-02 05:41:28] alejandromasari : @laisee cool how do I sign up for his newsletter?
[2017-01-02 05:43:19] laisee : I don't recall signing up, check with bitmex folks if you;re not receiving at your email. maybe in junk mail folder?
[2017-01-02 05:43:50] alejandromasari : Dtrade16: go to tradingview.com and lookup xbtusd
[2017-01-02 05:44:28] Dtrade16 : How do I compare though?
[2017-01-02 05:44:32] Dtrade16 : it's confusing
[2017-01-02 05:45:20] Angelika : Correction of $40 is coming
[2017-01-02 05:48:48] shery : Angelika: are you sure?
[2017-01-02 05:49:05] evilminer : How about ~$20? And, we're done. ;-)
[2017-01-02 05:49:29] Angelika : 50k contracts sure
[2017-01-02 05:49:53] nOgAnOo : it's pressed up against me I think I'm gonna get filled
[2017-01-02 05:50:02] Angelika : If I was 100% sure I will trade 1 mill contracts
[2017-01-02 05:50:14] shery : Angelika: lmfao
[2017-01-02 05:50:41] shery : Angelika: I am expecting nother Leg up before we correct
[2017-01-02 05:50:47] MikeHunt : shery: +1
[2017-01-02 05:50:50] arbitrage001 : good afrternoon
[2017-01-02 05:50:54] arbitrage001 : how is everyone doing
[2017-01-02 05:50:59] Angelika : Possible
[2017-01-02 05:51:03] MikeHunt : shery: although it could correct here and still continue
[2017-01-02 05:51:05] arbitrage001 : enjoying they new found wealth?
[2017-01-02 05:51:15] arbitrage001 : the
[2017-01-02 05:51:23] Angelika : Already negative divergances on many timeframes
[2017-01-02 05:51:27] arbitrage001 : at shorty expense
[2017-01-02 05:51:49] nOgAnOo : My friend just doubled his account in 20 minutes!
[2017-01-02 05:51:53] shery : MikeHunt: It seems very strong , no seeling volume, easily climbng uper levels, push seems to be easy and near
[2017-01-02 05:52:27] arbitrage001 : yes, push baby
[2017-01-02 05:52:31] arbitrage001 : i can see the baby's head
[2017-01-02 05:52:33] nOgAnOo : push and fill me
[2017-01-02 05:52:47] nOgAnOo : ohhh 20,000
[2017-01-02 05:52:50] nOgAnOo : that must be johnny
[2017-01-02 05:53:42] alejandromasari : What is the average size leverage used around here @bitmex_jinming
[2017-01-02 05:54:22] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: dont think they know
[2017-01-02 05:54:42] arbitrage001 : calculating average is not easy task
[2017-01-02 05:55:05] alejandromasari : What is typical size lev used? More than 10x ?
[2017-01-02 05:55:46] Angelika : alejandromasari: all my trades are under2
[2017-01-02 05:56:16] nOgAnOo : high risk unprotected trading
[2017-01-02 05:59:19] Angelika : 2 contract MM showed up
[2017-01-02 05:59:33] Angelika : Someone testing I guess
[2017-01-02 06:00:11] arbitrage001 : Angelika: the one quoting 500 is your mm?
[2017-01-02 06:00:24] Angelika : Yes
[2017-01-02 06:00:43] alejandromasari : Angelika: you're risk averse
[2017-01-02 06:00:46] arbitrage001 : do you have working api for finex?
[2017-01-02 06:01:10] Angelika : No
[2017-01-02 06:01:19] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: risk is easily control by adjusting size
[2017-01-02 06:01:42] alejandromasari : Angelika: very conservative... I thought I was conservative with 7x leverage
[2017-01-02 06:01:44] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: and 500 size is not risk averse when testing
[2017-01-02 06:02:34] j8 : if you're trading bitcoin at all you're probably not that risk averse
[2017-01-02 06:02:48] arbitrage001 : j8: yea
[2017-01-02 06:02:49] Angelika : alejandromasari: It's not conservative if you have a lot of btc in the account
[2017-01-02 06:02:58] nOgAnOo : it looks like the 1 contract market maker has tripled his account already
[2017-01-02 06:03:00] arbitrage001 : having bitcoin alone make you super risky person
[2017-01-02 06:03:21] alejandromasari : bitcoin has been my most successful trade... never lost on it!!
[2017-01-02 06:03:47] alejandromasari : im up overall been holding 1x since $400
[2017-01-02 06:03:47] arbitrage001 : in a perpertual bull market, almost everyone make money
[2017-01-02 06:03:51] Angelika : I can trade 200k contracts and still be under 2 leverage
[2017-01-02 06:04:05] alejandromasari : Angelika: you dont need leverage
[2017-01-02 06:04:38] Angelika : MM upgraded to 3 contracts
[2017-01-02 06:04:40] Angelika : Lol
[2017-01-02 06:05:03] BTCBull : Is anyone here familiar with the Bitmex API?
[2017-01-02 06:05:04] nOgAnOo : I am honored to be among such successful traders
[2017-01-02 06:05:06] Angelika : They are profitable in this low volatility
[2017-01-02 06:05:12] nOgAnOo : I hope that the wealth trickles down. hehe
[2017-01-02 06:05:38] alejandromasari : Angelika: how long have you been trading?
[2017-01-02 06:05:47] Angelika : nOgAnOo: you got filled
[2017-01-02 06:05:58] arbitrage001 : BTCBull: https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiOverview
[2017-01-02 06:06:01] nOgAnOo : I am the 300 now man
[2017-01-02 06:06:02] Angelika : alejandromasari: bitcoin or anything?
[2017-01-02 06:06:09] nOgAnOo : trading at 70x leverage
[2017-01-02 06:06:18] nOgAnOo : up to 0.0036
[2017-01-02 06:06:18] BTCBull : arbitrage001: I'm reading through that now
[2017-01-02 06:06:26] nOgAnOo : 40% gains in an hour
[2017-01-02 06:06:43] nOgAnOo : wow, johnny is back with the real money
[2017-01-02 06:06:43] arbitrage001 : BTCBull: https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker
[2017-01-02 06:06:43] laisee : BTCBull: see https://github.com/BitMEX/sample-market-maker for sample code
[2017-01-02 06:06:45] BTCBull : arbitrage001: Trying to find an endpoint that provides historical candle stick prices
[2017-01-02 06:06:55] BTCBull : I'll check that out too
[2017-01-02 06:07:50] kryptopojken : how can i remove so i cant see my open orders in the chart?
[2017-01-02 06:07:55] kryptopojken : it's cluttering it
[2017-01-02 06:08:05] alejandromasari : Angelika: anything
[2017-01-02 06:08:20] nOgAnOo : It looks like the Mini Market Maker is almost to 4 contracts now
[2017-01-02 06:08:23] Angelika : 17 years
[2017-01-02 06:08:25] nOgAnOo : that's 400%!
[2017-01-02 06:08:41] j8 : BTCBull: check out `/trade/bucketed`
[2017-01-02 06:08:59] alejandromasari : Angelika: wow 17 years!! you are definitely older than me
[2017-01-02 06:09:08] j8 : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Trade/Trade_getBucketed
[2017-01-02 06:09:09] Angelika : Lol
[2017-01-02 06:09:20] alejandromasari : Angelika: are you on stocktwits? I'm 34
[2017-01-02 06:09:39] Angelika : Yes
[2017-01-02 06:09:44] alejandromasari : Angelika: been at this for 8 years
[2017-01-02 06:09:47] BTCBull : j8: Checking that one out now
[2017-01-02 06:09:54] alejandromasari : Angelika: what is your stocktwits profile?
[2017-01-02 06:10:20] Angelika : I don't post there
[2017-01-02 06:10:45] alejandromasari : Angelika: mine is http://stocktwits.com/AlejandroMasari
[2017-01-02 06:10:57] BTCBull : j8: You rock
[2017-01-02 06:11:26] j8 : :+1:
[2017-01-02 06:11:48] Angelika : BTCBull: he is the best
[2017-01-02 06:12:11] j8 : if only angelika was really a girl...
[2017-01-02 06:12:22] Angelika : Ha ha
[2017-01-02 06:12:37] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: mine is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett
[2017-01-02 06:13:25] alejandromasari : arbitrage001: I think you meant warren bluffit
[2017-01-02 06:13:46] alejandromasari : arbitrage001: http://stocktwits.com/WarrenBluffit?q=WarrenBluffit
[2017-01-02 06:18:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 2000 @ 1083.17
[2017-01-02 06:18:55] alejandromasari : @REKT keep up the bit rex
[2017-01-02 06:19:05] mariomarco : any admin here?
[2017-01-02 06:21:06] alejandromasari : eth going to have a nice pop in the next 8 hrs
[2017-01-02 06:22:50] nOgAnOo : Fill my 35 short please
[2017-01-02 06:23:05] mariomarco : can anybody explain the thievery
[2017-01-02 06:23:10] mariomarco : i do a test long
[2017-01-02 06:23:16] mariomarco : 999 to 1012
[2017-01-02 06:23:20] mariomarco : 4400$
[2017-01-02 06:23:24] mariomarco : profit 0.03
[2017-01-02 06:23:25] mariomarco : WTF
[2017-01-02 06:23:28] mariomarco : x25
[2017-01-02 06:28:06] happy : Anyone shorting this?
[2017-01-02 06:28:09] MikeHunt : mariomarco: so you wanted to do 4400x25?
[2017-01-02 06:28:36] arbitrage001 : happy: i am
[2017-01-02 06:28:56] happy : arbitrage001: What's the leverage ?
[2017-01-02 06:28:57] happy : I am shorting this too
[2017-01-02 06:29:11] MikeHunt : happy: no, this should go higher although it may correct to 975 lowest
[2017-01-02 06:29:22] mariomarco : MikeHunt: no i did do it
[2017-01-02 06:29:23] arbitrage001 : happy: less than 20% of my capital
[2017-01-02 06:29:26] mariomarco : and got only 0.03
[2017-01-02 06:29:29] mariomarco : instead of 0.05
[2017-01-02 06:29:36] alejandromasari : mariomarco: you paid too much in fees
[2017-01-02 06:29:51] mariomarco : alejandromasari: how so
[2017-01-02 06:29:58] happy : try to become a maker instead of taker
[2017-01-02 06:30:16] mariomarco : happy: ok im being stupid here, how do i become a maker
[2017-01-02 06:30:17] alejandromasari : mariomarco: did you buy on the ask and sell on the bid? then you got swindled with fees
[2017-01-02 06:30:27] alejandromasari : mariomarco: use limit orders mate
[2017-01-02 06:30:30] j8 : mariomarco: you probably paid funding too
[2017-01-02 06:30:35] happy : Set buy/Sell Limit, do not buy market
[2017-01-02 06:30:46] happy : or sell market
[2017-01-02 06:30:57] arbitrage001 : hard to resist the juicy funding
[2017-01-02 06:30:59] mariomarco : so thats the whole key? to MAKE my own price, not TAKE whats available?
[2017-01-02 06:31:09] happy : Basically , Limit order = Maker ; Market order = Taker
[2017-01-02 06:31:10] arbitrage001 : so, i am going to short more if it keeps up
[2017-01-02 06:31:58] happy : you pay 0.075% for become a Taker; You receive 0.025% for become a maker
[2017-01-02 06:32:24] alejandromasari : mariomarco: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-01-02 06:32:27] happy : This is 0.1% difference. If you doing it with 10x leverage; This is 1% of your money
[2017-01-02 06:33:17] arbitrage001 : i dont expect anyone to be here for long if he use higher than 5x leverage
[2017-01-02 06:33:27] mariomarco : happy: holy sheet, does my making price have to be unique?
[2017-01-02 06:33:50] mariomarco : arbitrage001: im doign x25 x50, with realtime TA
[2017-01-02 06:34:01] mariomarco : im doing fine, but i got fucked on fees aparently
[2017-01-02 06:34:01] arbitrage001 : mariomarco: ok..
[2017-01-02 06:34:17] BTCBull : arbitrage001: You don't use more than 5x leverage?
[2017-01-02 06:34:20] arbitrage001 : mariomarco: are you super wealthy by now?
[2017-01-02 06:34:36] alejandromasari : mariomarco: the 50x leverage took your account
[2017-01-02 06:34:37] arbitrage001 : BTCBull: i dont use higher than 2x leverage even if i have an edge
[2017-01-02 06:34:45] happy : Just be aware of that, you are paying a lot of FEEs
[2017-01-02 06:35:04] BTCBull : arbitrage001: Are you trading with lots of BTC?
[2017-01-02 06:35:17] arbitrage001 : BTCBull: of course not
[2017-01-02 06:35:21] BTCBull : arbitrage001: I'm too worried about exchanges going under and taking the BTC with them.
[2017-01-02 06:35:23] mariomarco : happy: i will do as you told me from now
[2017-01-02 06:35:40] BTCBull : arbitrage001: Smaller stash on here, with higher leverage means average trades with less risk
[2017-01-02 06:36:02] happy : mariomarco: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-01-02 06:36:09] happy : check this website for more detail
[2017-01-02 06:47:55] alejandromasari : arbitrage001: I think your shorts are going to pay you
[2017-01-02 06:48:29] arbitrage001 : alejandromasari: yes
[2017-01-02 06:48:40] arbitrage001 : that is the point
[2017-01-02 06:48:52] arbitrage001 : no one going to short if not for the funding
[2017-01-02 06:48:59] arbitrage001 : in a strong bull trend
[2017-01-02 06:51:03] alejandromasari : xbth17 is sooo not liquid!!
[2017-01-02 06:51:43] arbitrage001 : how so
[2017-01-02 06:52:03] arbitrage001 : i see 53k+ on bid size within 3 dollars range
[2017-01-02 06:52:17] arbitrage001 : and over 20k+ on ask size within 8 dollars range
[2017-01-02 06:52:30] mariomarco : happy: even if i made a mistake and took both taker fee, thats only 3.75% on 25x, wheres the rest of the profit then
[2017-01-02 06:52:43] alejandromasari : arbitrage001: there is less volume on it... less trades happening
[2017-01-02 06:53:09] evilminer : alejandromasari: Market is not moving. What do you expect? Waiting on move (up). ;-)
[2017-01-02 06:53:12] alejandromasari : arbitrage001: hard to be a maker if no one is buying
[2017-01-02 06:53:20] arbitrage001 : over 7.7 contracts changes hand in the last 24 hours
[2017-01-02 06:53:26] arbitrage001 : 7.7M contrancts
[2017-01-02 06:53:36] happy : mariomarco: If you become a taker, You pay 0.075% YOU will not loose this much, if you become a maker.
[2017-01-02 06:53:38] shery : evilminer: it is moving up evrytime it is silent for a while from yesterday
[2017-01-02 06:53:44] alejandromasari : compare that to xbtusd 7.7 million is small
[2017-01-02 06:54:28] evilminer : shery: Yes, big(ger) move coming when it does this. Still long?
[2017-01-02 06:54:34] mariomarco : happy: i know but between 999 and 1012 thats 1.3% on 25x
[2017-01-02 06:54:46] mariomarco : 4400$ thats 0.05 profit
[2017-01-02 06:54:56] shery : evilminer: I will short 1020 + , but for now ,it seems we will move more up,
[2017-01-02 06:55:24] shery : evilminer: closed my long of 933 at 998, re bougt at 1001, and holding
[2017-01-02 06:55:42] happy : mariomarco: What's the Quantity you bought
[2017-01-02 06:55:45] j8 : mariomarco: you paid funding, it was high last session, 0.2787%
[2017-01-02 06:56:04] arbitrage001 : j8: yea, nice funding
[2017-01-02 06:56:20] mariomarco : j8: omg, stupid scammers . thank you
[2017-01-02 06:56:22] j8 : nice for us :)
[2017-01-02 06:56:22] evilminer : I've been waiting for one more big move. But, these smaller moves may be the best thing to go above ATH. If we just spike, we will retest hard.
[2017-01-02 06:56:40] happy : mariomarco: Yea. Funding is stupid too
[2017-01-02 06:56:47] alejandromasari : mariomarco: try to avoid paying the funding\
[2017-01-02 06:56:56] shery : evilminer: 1030 on bitmex is looking real, but anything above that surely I will short
[2017-01-02 06:57:30] MikeHunt : in the 1hr doesn't this all look like a continuation pattern upwards?
[2017-01-02 06:57:50] happy : MikeHunt: Check 1Week chart
[2017-01-02 06:57:51] j8 : mariomarco: the swap trades higher after funding, part of the reason you got that 1.3% when spot moved less than that
[2017-01-02 06:57:53] shery : MikeHunt: yeah it does, but if we fell, we will be in danger
[2017-01-02 06:58:10] shery : MikeHunt: correction would be big and healthy one
[2017-01-02 06:59:06] happy : I really want to short Bitcoins based on 1Week chart. But I don't know what's the best price for shorting this.
[2017-01-02 07:00:04] shery : MikeHunt: 1k is a cyclogical barrier of long and short it would be difficult to climb back up in shorting pressure
[2017-01-02 07:00:06] evilminer : shery: I think we touch and maybe go above ATH. But, it may a few more days. It'll never happen how we think or want it to.
[2017-01-02 07:00:31] alejandromasari : cyclogical... nice word, i learned some cool english today lol
[2017-01-02 07:00:32] evilminer : may take*
[2017-01-02 07:00:42] MikeHunt : some said that mtgox manipulated the price way up beyond 1k
[2017-01-02 07:00:48] shery : evilminer: we will flash down anytime , but the point is wheere is the ATH
[2017-01-02 07:01:02] MikeHunt : maybe huobi & co. is doing the same with a similar idea in mind and we are all in a bull trap from 1k up
[2017-01-02 07:01:33] MikeHunt : i think most people are assuming the 2013 ath is legitimate, it may not be
[2017-01-02 07:01:47] shery : MikeHunt: They always wanna cheat west , sunday and new year was supposed to be dump days , but they wanna dump when we feel that we are moving more Up
[2017-01-02 07:02:05] nOgAnOo : Johnny are you here? Look at the low sell volume. You could totally pump that. C'mon Johnny5k!
[2017-01-02 07:02:50] alejandromasari : nOgAnOo: johnny is gone... suckling on his mama's nipples... bed time...
[2017-01-02 07:03:01] shery : alejandromasari: Lol
[2017-01-02 07:03:44] nOgAnOo : His momma's nipples do taste good..
[2017-01-02 07:04:11] alejandromasari : this xbh17 is soooo illiquid it has not traded in 30 mins!!
[2017-01-02 07:04:11] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: bitty? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyHm8oqkOB0&t=1m05s
[2017-01-02 07:04:13] shery : nOgAnOo: have you tried??
[2017-01-02 07:05:21] evilminer : alejandromasari: It'll move soon...
[2017-01-02 07:05:28] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: yes that's johnny in the bitty video
[2017-01-02 07:05:54] alejandromasari : https://youtu.be/tyHm8oqkOB0?t=121
[2017-01-02 07:06:19] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: lol
[2017-01-02 07:06:21] evilminer : China doesn't even know what to do. LOL
[2017-01-02 07:06:22] shery : alejandromasari: many here do swaps
[2017-01-02 07:06:41] mariomarco : flash crash
[2017-01-02 07:06:55] nOgAnOo : Yeah, people are afraid to buy
[2017-01-02 07:06:57] alejandromasari : shery: the swap was expensive .27% funding rate!
[2017-01-02 07:07:01] nOgAnOo : 750 dollars just weeks ago lol
[2017-01-02 07:07:18] nOgAnOo : Pretty sure I'm gonna hold my short from here for the megadump
[2017-01-02 07:07:26] nOgAnOo : Too high too fast.....
[2017-01-02 07:07:27] shery : alejandromasari: may be becaouse market doesnt reacts muc quickly
[2017-01-02 07:08:54] alejandromasari : I got a strategy working for swap
[2017-01-02 07:09:02] alejandromasari : I am going to make 2 bitmex accounts
[2017-01-02 07:09:07] alejandromasari : long / short
[2017-01-02 07:09:27] mariomarco : alejandromasari: and?
[2017-01-02 07:09:33] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: but also scared of selling because they get squeezed
[2017-01-02 07:09:34] alejandromasari : time the short well and collect the fee
[2017-01-02 07:09:51] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: where would you put a short on this?
[2017-01-02 07:10:07] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: 30 mins before the swap comes up...
[2017-01-02 07:10:24] alejandromasari : I dont want to short bitcoin for longer than 1 hour
[2017-01-02 07:10:35] imapotato : why the wide spread on XBTH17
[2017-01-02 07:10:49] alejandromasari : because it is illiquid as fkkk
[2017-01-02 07:10:57] laisee : sellers and buyers are not friends
[2017-01-02 07:10:58] evilminer : No one wants to sell.
[2017-01-02 07:10:59] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: what about those of us on xbtusd?
[2017-01-02 07:11:19] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: you will pay / receivefunding
[2017-01-02 07:11:52] evilminer : Someone make a market buy on an exchange. That'll make it move. ;-)
[2017-01-02 07:12:08] MikeHunt : perhaps it may just float around here until something happens
[2017-01-02 07:12:17] MikeHunt : every previous flash crash had an event iirc
[2017-01-02 07:12:20] alejandromasari : someone needs to buy 10, 000 bitcoin and move the market up
[2017-01-02 07:12:45] cryptobull : I'll do it
[2017-01-02 07:13:39] evilminer : Someone in China heard us. ;-)
[2017-01-02 07:14:10] shery : pump time
[2017-01-02 07:14:30] alejandromasari : evilminer: the chinese are on the other side of this chat
[2017-01-02 07:14:33] MrRGnome : I'm so happy I could pee
[2017-01-02 07:15:07] alejandromasari : this xbth17 does not fken moooooove
[2017-01-02 07:15:14] evilminer : Surprised no dump then.
[2017-01-02 07:15:29] shery : alejandromasari: is this normal or just today becaouse i am in xbt 17
[2017-01-02 07:15:37] shery : just for today
[2017-01-02 07:16:02] alejandromasari : shery: it is not liquid at all, we must go back to xbtusd swap
[2017-01-02 07:17:05] shery : alejandromasari: swap is fine always moves
[2017-01-02 07:17:19] alejandromasari : shery: swap is better
[2017-01-02 07:17:46] shery : alejandromasari: I only traded 17 today , seems good for shorting price drops quickly
[2017-01-02 07:18:06] alejandromasari : shery: it drops quickly because it is not liquid
[2017-01-02 07:18:19] shery : alejandromasari: liquid means?
[2017-01-02 07:18:53] evilminer : not a lot of orders. Gaps in prices.
[2017-01-02 07:18:55] alejandromasari : shery: ability to buy and sell without slippage high trading volume tight spreads
[2017-01-02 07:18:59] yle : hi cosmo
[2017-01-02 07:19:09] shery : alejandromasari: Oh got you
[2017-01-02 07:19:19] yle : @cosmo, why you noob?
[2017-01-02 07:21:50] alejandromasari : shery: where r u from?
[2017-01-02 07:22:00] shery : alejandromasari: pakistan
[2017-01-02 07:22:16] alejandromasari : ke se ho
[2017-01-02 07:22:29] shery : alejandromasari: you from?
[2017-01-02 07:22:36] alejandromasari : shery: canada
[2017-01-02 07:22:37] shery : alejandromasari: Super fine
[2017-01-02 07:22:45] shery : alejandromasari: pakistani?
[2017-01-02 07:22:59] alejandromasari : shery: السلام عليكم
[2017-01-02 07:23:05] alejandromasari : shery: no Im no paki
[2017-01-02 07:23:09] shery : alejandromasari: w,salam
[2017-01-02 07:23:20] shery : alejandromasari: how do you know urdu?
[2017-01-02 07:23:54] alejandromasari : shery: tum se mohabato oy gey hey lolol
[2017-01-02 07:24:02] alejandromasari : I dont know very much just a few words
[2017-01-02 07:24:16] shery : alejandromasari: mujhay he tm sy mubaat ho gae hy
[2017-01-02 07:24:17] alejandromasari : I have a friend from pakistan
[2017-01-02 07:24:32] alejandromasari : I learn quick
[2017-01-02 07:24:51] shery : alejandromasari: nice to meet you !, Those sentences are a bit difficult to learn
[2017-01-02 07:25:20] alejandromasari : yeah I know 4 languages it is easy for me to learn
[2017-01-02 07:25:48] alejandromasari : shery: بحكي عربي
[2017-01-02 07:26:03] shery : alejandromasari: nice
[2017-01-02 07:27:21] evilminer : Time to move...
[2017-01-02 07:27:35] shery : yeah it should, enough hanging here
[2017-01-02 07:28:58] mariomarco : crash mofo
[2017-01-02 07:29:34] alejandromasari : lol someone painted the bid with 20 contracts on xbth17
[2017-01-02 07:31:10] alejandromasari : shery: do you trade the swap?
[2017-01-02 07:31:22] alejandromasari : shery: swap is riba!
[2017-01-02 07:31:35] evilminer : swap moves. ;-)
[2017-01-02 07:31:55] alejandromasari : evilminer: xbth17 sleeps while swap moves
[2017-01-02 07:33:30] alejandromasari : shery: ربا حرام
[2017-01-02 07:33:33] evilminer : bid the xbth17 up alejandro!
[2017-01-02 07:34:31] evilminer : It'll be worth it... I think.
[2017-01-02 07:34:33] alejandromasari : evilminer: let nature take its course.
[2017-01-02 07:35:54] alejandromasari : evilminer: go ask the china men on the Huobi to make a kung-fu move on btc and bid it up with 50,000 bitcoins
[2017-01-02 07:36:17] evilminer : alejandromasari: Being a trader, do you use mental or physical stops?
[2017-01-02 07:36:38] alejandromasari : evilminer: mental mostly I manage by hedging
[2017-01-02 07:36:52] evilminer : What's your hedge on BTC?
[2017-01-02 07:37:04] alejandromasari : evilminer: if I am in trouble I'll go short in a seperate account
[2017-01-02 07:37:11] alejandromasari : as a hedge
[2017-01-02 07:38:40] alejandromasari : pro traders dont use stops they hedge
[2017-01-02 07:39:11] alejandromasari : evilminer: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-i-stopped-using-stop-loss-orders-2013-05-09
[2017-01-02 07:39:40] alejandromasari : evilminer: http://www.swing-trade-stocks.com/stop-loss-orders.html
[2017-01-02 07:40:20] alejandromasari : evilminer: Large enough institutional traders cannot use stop losses, which is a whole different level of stuff. But they don't go in without precautions. They can hedge with (inversely) correlated other securities and / or they may use options.
[2017-01-02 07:41:26] evilminer : I understand all the jargon. :-)
[2017-01-02 07:42:28] alejandromasari : evilminer: a short-term fluctuation may trigger your stop price prematurely.
[2017-01-02 07:42:40] alejandromasari : this is why I stopped using a stop loss order
[2017-01-02 07:42:43] alejandromasari : it's is bullshit
[2017-01-02 07:43:00] evilminer : I pretty much use same technique (mental stop, but no hedge. One of the biggest reasons why I don't use physical stops.
[2017-01-02 07:43:09] ayy_lmao : this is number 1 bullshit
[2017-01-02 07:43:31] alejandromasari : evilminer: After an instrument is sold at a popular stop-loss price, it reverses direction and rallies. Another disadvantage is that you are giving control of your sell order to the the system.
[2017-01-02 07:43:50] alejandromasari : evilminer: I hedge I dont use stops.
[2017-01-02 07:44:00] alejandromasari : short the swap in another account...
[2017-01-02 07:44:10] j8 : a lot of people here use liquidations as stops, which is even worse in most cases
[2017-01-02 07:44:47] alejandromasari : liquidation price is where I want to set my limit orders so I can buy someone else's loss
[2017-01-02 07:44:59] alejandromasari : his loss my gain. sadly that's how the market works. zero sum
[2017-01-02 07:45:01] j8 : alejandromasari: no need for another account though, just reduce your position
[2017-01-02 07:45:03] alejandromasari : especially with swaps
[2017-01-02 07:45:37] alejandromasari : j8: that would entail taking a loss on a short term dip... no.
[2017-01-02 07:45:47] evilminer : I love when I see red and I want to buy/sell into it!
[2017-01-02 07:45:53] j8 : there's really no difference
[2017-01-02 07:46:16] alejandromasari : OMG this xbh17 does not fken move!!
[2017-01-02 07:46:17] j8 : you're still taking the loss, just on another account so you don't see it
[2017-01-02 07:46:28] alejandromasari : bitcoin at all time highs and this shit is stuck
[2017-01-02 07:46:52] evilminer : I moved it a little earlier. ;-)
[2017-01-02 07:47:03] shery : evilminer: I moved it
[2017-01-02 07:47:40] alejandromasari : hey xbth17, I want a refund!!
[2017-01-02 07:47:49] odieoh : Wait, how can you tell where liquidations will happen?
[2017-01-02 07:47:52] shery : alejandromasari: long or short?
[2017-01-02 07:47:57] evilminer : Wait until Mar 31. LOL
[2017-01-02 07:48:33] arbitrage001 : i am going out to jogging
[2017-01-02 07:48:40] arbitrage001 : you guys have fun
[2017-01-02 07:48:54] arbitrage001 : gain 5 kg during new year. good lord
[2017-01-02 07:48:57] evilminer : odieoh: REKT reminds you. And, you will see red orders in order book.
[2017-01-02 07:49:27] shery : silenece before the bitcoin storm
[2017-01-02 07:49:34] evilminer : REKT-bot*
[2017-01-02 07:49:52] odieoh : Rekt meaning it just reports it when it happens eh?
[2017-01-02 07:50:28] evilminer : Yes.
[2017-01-02 07:52:00] odieoh : But I don't see anything in the orderbook that helps me. . . my own sell orders are darker red than the other orders, but nothing besides that
[2017-01-02 07:52:46] gusi : because there are no liquidations order at the moment @odieoh
[2017-01-02 07:53:36] odieoh : Oooh. . .I thought you meant like it showed a price point at which various users would get liquidated, if it reached that point
[2017-01-02 07:53:50] evilminer : Need big rise or dump, then you'll see them.
[2017-01-02 07:53:59] gusi : people get rekt when the market dumps/pumps
[2017-01-02 07:54:15] shery : here comes the pump
[2017-01-02 07:54:17] odieoh : Yeah, I get that, but it happens so quick, can you take advantage of it that way?
[2017-01-02 07:54:55] evilminer : The text is RED and if you highlight them it'll say liquidation. I don't see them very often as most are absorbed so quickly in heavily traded times!
[2017-01-02 07:54:57] evilminer : MOVEMENT!
[2017-01-02 07:55:32] odieoh : So there's not actually that much movement on the mark price. .. but the contract price is pumping nicely
[2017-01-02 07:55:33] evilminer : Happy? @alejandromasari
[2017-01-02 07:55:47] odieoh : I think that's why the march contracts arent really moving?
[2017-01-02 07:56:17] mariomarco : why is the price so different from the mark
[2017-01-02 07:56:21] evilminer : UPPPpppp!
[2017-01-02 07:56:32] odieoh : IDK but it's going to make for a nice funding rate!
[2017-01-02 07:56:52] ayy_lmao : rip bottom shorters
[2017-01-02 07:56:53] ayy_lmao : im never wrong!
[2017-01-02 07:58:23] MikeHunt : in soviet china bitcoin shorts you....said someone
[2017-01-02 07:59:01] mariomarco : fucking scam
[2017-01-02 07:59:18] m3s : 10$ over index wat
[2017-01-02 08:00:16] nOgAnOo : Beautiful
[2017-01-02 08:01:05] MikeHunt : it was stuck in a sort of rising wedge but now its free
[2017-01-02 08:01:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 310 @ 0.013827
[2017-01-02 08:01:06] MikeHunt : yay
[2017-01-02 08:01:10] l3f : I bought futures at 1020
[2017-01-02 08:01:12] l3f : lmao
[2017-01-02 08:01:18] l3f : and now it's the swap
[2017-01-02 08:01:20] l3f : fucking lol
[2017-01-02 08:01:38] mariomarco : fucking scam
[2017-01-02 08:01:57] nOgAnOo : Do you even trade bro?
[2017-01-02 08:02:20] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: you're not still trying to short this are you?
[2017-01-02 08:02:31] nOgAnOo : Yes, I am short at 113
[2017-01-02 08:02:34] l3f : MikeHunt: We need them for the rocket fuel
[2017-01-02 08:02:47] nOgAnOo : Bitcoin is dead.
[2017-01-02 08:03:06] MrRGnome : $10 per bitcorn by 2014
[2017-01-02 08:03:08] MrRGnome : I'm sur of it
[2017-01-02 08:03:10] shery : is this crashing?
[2017-01-02 08:03:33] MrRGnome : shery: YES YES PANIC RUN TRADE EMOTIONALLY
[2017-01-02 08:03:41] l3f : shery: buy & hold wins again
[2017-01-02 08:03:44] evilminer : I think it's time to get out. Pumps are weak.
[2017-01-02 08:03:48] l3f : no matter what the entry price
[2017-01-02 08:04:03] shery : l3f: I am winning more via longing and shorting
[2017-01-02 08:04:22] nOgAnOo : shery, It's gotta crash to 950 soon.. that's my target
[2017-01-02 08:04:22] l3f : shery: I come here 10 minutes a day, manage my position and jerk off a bit
[2017-01-02 08:04:23] l3f : shitpost in the chat
[2017-01-02 08:04:27] l3f : and laugh at shorts
[2017-01-02 08:04:29] l3f : living the dream
[2017-01-02 08:04:37] nOgAnOo : <--- Newb trader calls 950
[2017-01-02 08:05:02] MikeHunt : nOgAnOo: didnt some guy say that the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent?
[2017-01-02 08:05:28] nOgAnOo : That sounds true.
[2017-01-02 08:05:37] MrRGnome : I'm so happy I have been just holding. The price is getting high enough that I've started shorting at 1x here, and if the price goes down great - if it goes up I'll collect my interest, exit my position, and sell the btc equivalent of my original position so I effectively cashed out at whatever they price of my entry was plus the funding fees
[2017-01-02 08:06:17] nOgAnOo : Nice job MrRGnome
[2017-01-02 08:10:23] alejandromasari : Shorts get bit rexed
[2017-01-02 08:10:58] alejandromasari : I just dumped my xbth17
[2017-01-02 08:11:17] alejandromasari : this turd lacks volatility and liquidity
[2017-01-02 08:11:19] mariomarco : i longed it, it will crash now
[2017-01-02 08:11:32] alejandromasari : going back to swap
[2017-01-02 08:15:17] rapidtrades : what the actual f*ck is going on here fellas
[2017-01-02 08:15:42] MrRGnome : it's a celebration
[2017-01-02 08:16:03] nOgAnOo : Good evening rapidtrades
[2017-01-02 08:16:03] Tr : its never going down dont you get it yet
[2017-01-02 08:16:11] nOgAnOo : I'm gonna short this dump to the floor
[2017-01-02 08:16:23] nOgAnOo : crooked bitcoin
[2017-01-02 08:16:54] MrRGnome : sudden monero crash